treasure-scramble

[tropic birch]

agree

[obtuse mauve]

Gachas are traps for gambling addicts

[dusk tundra]

You gotta choose your focus now TS or CR for awakened heroes

[quartz salmon]

Yes my comparaison was kinda pointless. I just remember being so happy buying a kHz zix skin when I was 13 yo, and afk arena you can spend hundreds for a 5s rush

[still heron]

Just get them all

[quartz salmon]

Pokemon

[tropic birch]

everything would be fixed if they would let us spend diamonds on time gazers ngl but that would lose them to much money i guess

Community on bottom

[dusk tundra]

Apparently they were gonna but there was an outrage or something

[tropic birch]

prob the financial part of their company said no ha ha ha

[indigo quail]

Like i have spent over $1000 for a moba games just for skins
But i never spend any money on gacha bcs you still cant win against those whales
What khazix skin

[trail swift]

well mobas are a literal skill game

[lapis moth]

[trail swift]

gacha is a spreadsheet p2w simulator

i burnt myself out on LoL hard tho

[gaunt marten]

No spreadsheet here

Only max trez

[tropic birch]

i mean i can play a game for 50 bucks on pc where skill is required and not a huge amount of money

[trail swift]

my NA LoL name is 'Clue' hehe, got a cool name that one time they did the dead account wipe

[reef axle]

i’m here to see how far free man can go against the whale society (while actually fighting fellow free men and mild spenders)

[gaunt marten]

Join us

[tropic birch]

lets just be honest...p2w players just have...

[gaunt marten]

Actually don't

[trail swift]

i paid $5 for directors cut edition of death stranding. been playing tf out of it

[reef axle]

but if it is just impossible imma go play modded celeste (MOCE//LXVI is probably fun)

[tropic birch]

got it for free on CHristmas

[trail swift]

the value per dollar of gachas is a bit insane compared to stuff like that

[gaunt marten]

I'm going back to monthly card and limited deals 2x a month after abelinda event

[trail swift]

yeah it was free on epic store plus $5 to upgrade to directors cut edition

[tropic birch]

man lets be honest

p2w players just got no skill only money ( @gaunt marten dont feel attacked by that)

[gaunt marten]

Great game played it at start of covid

[indigo quail]

Sound like a p2w racist

[gaunt marten]

Rude I have to have skill to make my roster work

[tropic birch]

Anyone here be playing Hogwarts Legacy in a month ?

[gaunt marten]

And half of top 20 is copying comps I came up with

[trail swift]

idk

[dusk tundra]

This game only exists because the standards for mobile games are so low

[trail swift]

i'm not very into harry potter, or mmos.. is that game an mmo or no

[dusk tundra]

No it's not

[tropic birch]

they should add like a pay cap ngl but money will always win

[gaunt marten]

No bc rowling can choke lol

[dusk tundra]

It's like an open world rpg

[tropic birch]

something like assassins creed
but i played like every assassins creed to 100% so

[dusk tundra]

That will never happen which is why P2W is garbo

[tropic birch]

it is only gabo if there is competitive events else idc

[trail swift]

this entire genre probably wouldn't exist without big spenders but it's still in everyones interest to let f2p progress

a year spent on heroes that dominate like half the game is excessive

[tropic birch]

i have the feeling with every update the gap to f2p players widens even more ngl

[dusk tundra]

So you would like to spend money to become stronger in a single player game?

[tropic birch]

no not like that i just dont care i whales spend in solo games in competitive it just sucks

[trail swift]

gotta wait and see what time emblem changes they bring with or shortly after belinda

if they're very minor then yeah it's kinda gg

[dusk tundra]

What single player games can you whale in? I thought spending and competition went hand in hand

[tropic birch]

hey you can buy a 10 pull with 15k diamonds have fun...something like that prob

[trail swift]

the sims is gacha for boomers

[dusk tundra]

You mean DLC?

[vernal vessel]

Genshin

[reef axle]

clicker heroes had like big spenders

[trail swift]

yeah those games have like 500 addons and crap lol

[dusk tundra]

There's no competetion in genshin?

[reef axle]

so big that they felt guilty

[tropic birch]

there are a lot as example assassins creed valhalla their is the shop where you can buy stuff with overpowered stats/effects

[vernal vessel]

No competition

[dusk tundra]

I think I've heard about that, ubisoft did an oopsie

Haven't played an assassins since rev

[tropic birch]

its single player so idc really bc it doesnt affect me

but something like AFK Arena affects me so

[dusk tundra]

Yeah I know I get what you mean. Not easy to find examples of it tho because why would you want to buy in single player

[lilac bobcat]

[tropic birch]

idk

[dusk tundra]

They gave examples but it's still a rare thing

[lilac bobcat]

[granite mason]

buy hearts to play in candy crush

[tropic birch]

but i mean if they dont add ways for more stuff for f2p you can completly forget to play any longer

[dusk tundra]

When candy crush was new I had some cheat in my firefox browser that gave me unlimited gold and boosters

[tropic birch]

100$ in idle games

[granite mason]

ye

oh i just realized a game

single player but people whale a lot

[tropic birch]

once through a bug i duped 400k gems worth 2500$ in a Game

[granite mason]

pvz2

[tropic birch]

but wanna know something

a game from lilith were without p2w you only can lose

Rise of Kingdoms

[granite mason]

never played that

[vernal vessel]

I just came to afk arena from rise of kingdom

[tropic birch]

i played it you need like 1-1,5 years to get best troops and in the end you just get all your troops killed by a whale who bought troops

[granite mason]

yeah then I would quit if i play that

[tropic birch]

see my point or

[dusk tundra]

That's basically AFK Arena

[granite mason]

I only play gacha games that doesnt much important in ranking( waifu game) or a gacha game that f2p could reach the top

[trail swift]

these companies 100% hire psychologists and marketers and shit, every single timewall and even sound effects and stuff is centered around pushing you to a dopamine addiction loop + $$$$$

[granite mason]

[rapid void]

guys what are the team guides for treasure scramble

sorry if it has been asked a lot

[tropic birch]

and kinda legal gambling site ngl

[dusk tundra]

Unfortunately there are no guides because no one wants to help the competition. You could post your hero box and ask for advice, usually someone will help

[rapid void]

oh...

[granite mason]

there is a guide for the trading thing in reddit
it sucks btw

[trail swift]

yeh come around here often you'll see tons of team screenshots, plus you can check your battle history, see what you lost against

[dusk tundra]

Oh? lol but it's almost over

[trail swift]

im so glad they nerfed it. i got wukong skin today

[dusk tundra]

We really went through all of that for a Wu Kong skin

[tropic birch]

really me beim close to top 100 😄

[trail swift]

awakened wukong marketing

[rapid void]

bruh i got 82 coins left in the trading thing

cuz i bought bag spaces

[granite mason]

lmao

[dusk tundra]

Honestly I have only played one gacha before this and it's called Fire Emblem:Heroes. It's probably one of the nicer gachas out there but powercreep and boredom made me quit

[rapid void]

now i have to wait til reset for those 30k coins

n trade then

l,mao

what a crappy event that was

[trail swift]

i didn't even do the trading crap today after i saw i finished the skin quest from the nerf.. screw that event

[granite mason]

then you cant get the medals

[trail swift]

trying to get 5% for medal isn't worth

[tropic birch]

still got 200k coins with maxed bag lol dont understand your problem

[rapid void]

bruh i kept buying

n then 82 coins left

n couldnt sell or buy

thats the problem

[granite mason]

I always keep my coins above 70k

[rapid void]

lol

yea well i wawsnt even paying attention to this event

my fault anyways

[granite mason]

@solemn sage whats ur rank rn in trading event

[solemn sage]

35th R2
16 winged, 12 fat fire, 12 blade, 18 white ball, 9 bambi, 9 owl

[trail swift]

if you roam around there are ! on buildings and stuff and can get free items sometimes

[reef axle]

rowan’s cart enjoys exponential growth (up to a cap)

[dusk tundra]

Wtf

[reef axle]

don’t become low

[rapid void]

teams like this i wonder how have u got so much resoruces to build palmer anasta already

[reef axle]

or get stuck in oden’s void i guess

[solemn sage]

In the trade event? 73

[rapid void]

on top of that ur awwkened r built lol

[granite mason]

nice
this morning i wake up and saw u at 1st lol

[solemn sage]

yeah that was right after reset

didn't last long

[solemn sage]

awakeneds are from being a whale

palmer anasta are from HCP

[rapid void]

thats fine i have aw solise brutus baden and ezizh

but i struggle to have resources to max them lol

[solemn sage]

anasta's been out for ages

[rapid void]

my badens jus about si 30

i cant even get his furns

[solemn sage]

palmer I just got to 1* from misty

[rapid void]

yea see my palmer is 1 star now but i dont have shards to e30 hi meven

then theres u with most of em built

im jus jealous

ignore me haha

[solemn sage]

E30s are just a matter of time, I get them faster than new heroes come out

same with 9fs

E60s are a struggle without whaling

[trail swift]

furn and cores are a pain for me

[rapid void]

but i feel like furns r jus luck

[solemn sage]

I've been playing since before furniture existed so I've had a long time

to get all the 9fs

[trail swift]

mostly cause poe are rarely the best option to take from events chests etc

[dusk tundra]

Idk if it would help, but this is what I use

[rapid void]

appreciate you man

who can i replace anasta with

dont have her built

shes only si30 for me

[lilac bobcat]

Depends on what %

[solemn sage]

At this point my furniture wishlist is mostly just dupes, so all my red cards can go towards new heroes

[lilac bobcat]

If it's something near 50% wr means his score is not moving

[dusk tundra]

I don't know tbh, I am pretty new to using Brutus in TS myself

[lilac bobcat]

You got mulan?

[solemn sage]

nah, waiting for exchange unless she starts seeing regular CR use

[lilac bobcat]

I see

[solemn sage]

wishlisted her though

[lilac bobcat]

What comp will you slot her

[solemn sage]

gotten 1 furn so far

[lilac bobcat]

In

[rapid void]

do i e30 palmer or anasta first

[solemn sage]

in TS? Not sure yet

Will put her in dims if she's better than someone there

Otherwise, 6th/7th team

[lilac bobcat]

I'll p put her in burst

And try

[dusk tundra]

What's your Anasta investment rn?

[lilac bobcat]

Maybe she can replace athane in my comp so I can run athane team

[rapid void]

si 30 no furns same with palmer

[trail swift]

my lack of astar and anasta keep coming to bite me in the ass

but now i dunno if palmer/nevanthi are higher prio to work on

[lilac bobcat]

Every f2p comp is non existent from where I'm at

I love this region

[quartz salmon]

Rank?

[lilac bobcat]

T49 r3

[lapis moth]

[quartz salmon]

Ah not to bad

I though you were gonna say 2%

I like how everyone in first ss is 309

Except nev but that’s just skill issue

[dusk tundra]

I'd say Anasta would need it more than Palmer but I also don't know how good she is without any furniture on

[lilac bobcat]

Give me cores I'll e60 nev

[quartz salmon]

Furnless Anasta is pretty useless ngl

I tried her multiple times before actually getting a 6th team and she’s just ass

[lilac bobcat]

FYI I in last 5 days I'm t50

[dusk tundra]

Yeah use on Palmer

[lilac bobcat]

Sitting in t50 bc they can't kick me out

[dusk tundra]

Damn, good to know. 3/3 min for TS then maybe?

[quartz salmon]

Idk I’m still at 0f lmaoo

Inn keeper wants me to struggle

[lilac bobcat]

Anasta isn't for ts but a decent unit

Anasta is more into pve

[rapid void]

okay sirr

[quartz salmon]

Yeah she works best for tower and other stuff

[dusk tundra]

I didn't really use Anasta at all until E60 9/9 SI30 but I got her for CR at the time

[lilac bobcat]

She works best in Cr and events

[dusk tundra]

So far she has done pretty good work in Brutus comp in my region

[quartz salmon]

Yeah she’s really good for cr

[lilac bobcat]

In tower, you might need a fat winged for her comp

[quartz salmon]

Too busy mercing Wolise tho

[rapid void]

I just adjusted

I have aw solise too i havwnt used

[lilac bobcat]

Uhhhh why you have alna there

[quartz salmon]

You have to use Wolise if you have her

[rapid void]

Whwre should alna be

[lilac bobcat]

Alna should be with grez

[rapid void]

I was jus copying the guy above to see if it works

whos next to luc then

[quartz salmon]

Alna with luc cycle does work higher bracket ?

[solemn sage]

Alna with luc sounds like a waste of alna

[dusk tundra]

I use Alna cycle in my region

[lilac bobcat]

Those comps give me headache

[quartz salmon]

Lmao

[rapid void]

lol

[lilac bobcat]

Holy sht

[rapid void]

so i came here for help

[lapis moth]

alna luc cycle needed for this debuff

cuz regular cycle bad

[quartz salmon]

Beef starting now

[lapis moth]

[rapid void]

no beef

jus tryna get some help lol

[quartz salmon]

Kinda agree but also Alna with GBs gets you 85% fr

[dusk tundra]

I mean, I use what works for me in my region

[quartz salmon]

Grez so good

[solemn sage]

he has abaden though

[rapid void]

like here

[lilac bobcat]

Can you copy this abrutus comp

[rapid void]

dont got frampton

[solemn sage]

better to use alna abaden and let your cycle be low winrate

[lilac bobcat]

Replace framton with skreg

[quartz salmon]

Yeah I kinda copy firefly and people in t50

[rapid void]

okay hold on

[quartz salmon]

Works ig

[lapis moth]

fair enough didn't see

[lilac bobcat]

Also copy my abaden comp

[rapid void]

okay done

now the luc team and last team

not sure waht to do

put solise w luc?

[lilac bobcat]

Luc cyle

Luc cycle is the only option

[dusk tundra]

I can't really copy anyone in my region but I'm basically top 100 anyway due to what I use lol

[quartz salmon]

Works ig

Everyone is a kraken in your region?

So copium?

[lilac bobcat]

Last team abaden?

Copied my abaden comp?

[rapid void]

i will send u it again hold on

[dusk tundra]

Yeah it's kinda rough they have a bunch of E80s and weird shit like someone had E60 Kalene

[lilac bobcat]

Show your box let's see if I can scuff a athalia burst comp for you

Cause my athane comp will work without athane

[rapid void]

Jus filled the gaps up w randoms rn

[quartz salmon]

Are you f2p/low spender btw?

[lilac bobcat]

Do you have eorin?

Or tidus

[rapid void]

i have em but not fully built

[lilac bobcat]

Who?

[rapid void]

both

tidus eorin

[lilac bobcat]

Hmmmm

[dusk tundra]

Last time I spent was a few bucks during the last Magician event. In total I have maybe 100$ so I'm not totally F2P but yeah

[rapid void]

tidus = 3 furns

[lilac bobcat]

Yea that t6 is def decent

[rapid void]

eorin si30 nothing

20*

[lilac bobcat]

But haelus

[quartz salmon]

I see, so yeah basically like me. We call ourself vegan f2p sir

[rapid void]

whod uswap

[dusk tundra]

Vegan F2P. I like it

[quartz salmon]

I mostly spent when I was impatient to get luc A

Got like 3 ARs

[lilac bobcat]

No zaph?

[dusk tundra]

Me with Alna lol

[still heron]

@gaunt marten is ur Treznor available?

[lilac bobcat]

Lyca?

How invested is your lyca?

Oh you have lyca on other team

Nvm

[quartz salmon]

ARs are so tempting, then you get 2 copies with sg and end up sad

[gaunt marten]

Yep

[rapid void]

no zaph sory

[gaunt marten]

[rapid void]

can only build so much

[gaunt marten]

Do you want to take my max trez for a little walk

[dusk tundra]

Yeah you start to wonder why you even bought it in the first place

[still heron]

Can i add u?

Yes, plz

[gaunt marten]

Lemme make room

[still heron]

123959943

[lilac bobcat]

Omfg void burner is running the same ainz comp

[quartz salmon]

Yup and that’s basically how I stopped spending. It’s just not worth it (except some extra keys this echange event cause you knooow)

[dusk tundra]

Exactly the same here. I'm also still contemplating those 1$ event deals

[quartz salmon]

Yeah lol I pretty much always take the 1$ deal and sometimes the 6$ one

[gaunt marten]

Have fun with my babygirl

[lilac bobcat]

I'm running the same team haze is using

🥹

[rapid void]

noice

[gaunt marten]

Some whale copied my abaden trez team from forest season but with a e30 trez

Now they copied my newest trez team

Please please feed your poor trez

[dusk tundra]

I also had a stalker rival

[lilac bobcat]

Imagine having rival

[dusk tundra]

It stopped though they aren't able to compete

Ikr just outspend them

Basically homie had invested into A Talene

[gaunt marten]

It's why I take offense to saying I'm p2w with no brains bc I play suboptimally I have to think up comps to compete on the level that monkeybrain meta whales do

And then I end up finding better shit

[dusk tundra]

I didn't say that

[gaunt marten]

Not yoy

I can't wait to terrorize everyone with abelinda

While just putting my account on cruise control

[dusk tundra]

You can find new shit with Treznor though since not a lot of ppl are running him

I wonder how many secret combos exist

[gaunt marten]

Mingles just now figured out abaden and trez work really well together

[lilac bobcat]

Also tidus works in that comp

[gaunt marten]

See this is the shit I like

[dusk tundra]

I will keep that in mind if I ever manage to get A!Baden to ascended

[gaunt marten]

Did you see the athane comp you gave me has 98%

[dusk tundra]

Tidus huh

[lilac bobcat]

Nice

[gaunt marten]

5 and 6 I think the best I can manage is like 10% each I just don't have the roster

[dusk tundra]

I can't wait for this debuff to be over

[gaunt marten]

After abelinda I'm going to spread out investment and hoard everything else

Ice is my fav

[lilac bobcat]

Doesn't matter I know how to approach every debuffs

I'm like t60 to t40 placer

[gaunt marten]

Pretty impressive

[lilac bobcat]

[dusk tundra]

I'm happy someone enjoys it

[gaunt marten]

Strawbebbie

Ice just makes sense to me

[lilac bobcat]

Ice is fun if you have heroes

[gaunt marten]

I think ice lends itself to more weird shit

[dusk tundra]

(insert anything here) is fun if you have heroes

[lilac bobcat]

Ice works differently

So other heroes will work

[frozen crest]

campaign is fun if you have heroes

hmm

[gaunt marten]

I like it because comps that are meta in other 2 debuffs become near obsolete

[lilac bobcat]

Fr fr I clear it with 5 awake

[gaunt marten]

Campaign is balls

[dusk tundra]

Awakened aren't heroes, they are villains

[lilac bobcat]

I clear singles with 5 or 4 awake

Just for fun

[dusk tundra]

That's kind of the reverse of those people who bring Walker along as a cheerleader

[pine ether]

@rapid void can i merc you're ABaden plz ? ^^ my iD : 42602636

Guys i need help , i'm Looking to merc Abaden I"m building Asolis soon to mythic and i have 309e60 Atalene and other meta heroes to offer each week ID : 42602636

[frozen crest]

post in #mercenary

[pine ether]

i did that for two weeks still got nothing from there its not helping me at all

i wish they give us a Ticket to swap awakened heroes

my Atalene is useless to the meta teams now

[still heron]

U can ask this guy @alpine sundial

His AwBaden is available

[pine ether]

@still heron thank you ^^

[rapid void]

U gotta wait for reset

Its borrowed rn

Add me

Id: 849074242

[pine ether]

ohh nice ^^

it says couldn't find you @rapid void maybe the ID is wrong ?

[rapid void]

U found me

I added u

[pine ether]

oh it was genesis ?

[wide wasp]

@storm moth what rank and points?

Im at 5195

[trail swift]

will getting my merlin to 9f probably give me a few win% on ainzcomp?

[frozen crest]

prob ye

[trail swift]

🥹

he's si25 too but damn mulan... i might just spend red chests idk

dim releases really screw me up tbhhh. stall on buying dim gear for most part, garrisoning and dim emblems

[wide wasp]

Mine went from 51% to 81% with the addition of si30 and 9f

[trail swift]

damn nice

so far i have 309e41 ainz, 303 albedo, 203e30 joan, 258 merlin, 200 yenn/203 arthur

working on abrutus at 303e0 (no star yet) and no ezio yet

got ezio wishlisted tho, only 1f so far ;_;

[wide wasp]

My team is
Ainz
King
Mortas
Bedo
Merlin

Put in joa dor king as i dont have her

[trail swift]

is your arthur 30si

[wide wasp]

No 203

[trail swift]

ah k. his 30si looks pretty damn good tbh. but idk how much i'll be using him. he's nice to have when joa goes to another team

[frozen crest]

not good if u aint using him

[wide wasp]

Nah imo king fell off... Notworth si30ing till much later

[frozen crest]

i aint using him anymore so thats not happening any time soon

[trail swift]

even when you use JoA in a diff team?

[still heron]

Poor Arthur

[wide wasp]

Then si20 must work

[frozen crest]

i dont use joa in a diff team

unless palmer's stuck in ainz team

putting joa in another team means ainz wr will go down

[trail swift]

yeah i noticed lol

[frozen crest]

wr ave would prob be the same at the end

[trail swift]

my ainz w/r tanks pretty hard without yenn too...idk why, she's only si20

201 maybe i think i have 1f for her

[low iron]

Even low investment - she boosts energy gain and reduces ranged damage from outside the bubble while pushing enemies away for safety of the carry. On top - most of her actions also cc's enemies giving your team time.

[trail swift]

yeah i mean her kit is awesome i just thought she'd need more investment to start mattering

she's even helped me get thru a lot of stages in ch39

those damn LDV ainz stages. don't have ldv, but enough experimenting and moving stuff around and i got through them with her

most of em anyway

[low iron]

Oh, did you pick up Arthur instead of LDV? Or are they from different shops - I don't remember.

[trail swift]

merlin

[low iron]

Ah, I see.

[trail swift]

i also had pretty bad advice as n00b and took ezizh all the way to L+1 from challenger store before getting merlin or ldv... or i'd have both already

[storm moth]

rn top 100 5209

i will tell you after this round if i dont forget

[marble lichen]

what some good asolise pvp team?

[opal bone]

Asolise backline position 4, with Ulmus front (tree synergy with Asolise water magic), Seirus front (synergy with double water magic) Astar backline position 3 (plants seeds, synergy with water) and Flora backline position 5 (also plants seeds).

This way you ensure max kit synergy for Asolise's abilities.

[quartz salmon]

Imo dims do pretty well with mortas and Joan can go with scarlet team which doubles wr

[trail swift]

new meta team

[storm moth]

i disagree

ainz with mortas is +70% wr for me

[storm moth]

why is your zol A and twins only L

[trail swift]

my mortas is only L too 🥴

[storm moth]

bruh

why

[trail swift]

bad advice basically

it was 100% gaze too lool

[opal bone]

Nah

Bad advice is your fault too

[trail swift]

nah

it's never my fault

[main abyss]

jingles toxic time to report to a mod

[opal bone]

@solid monolith Help, we have an issue here. Toxic behaviour is afoot.

[solid monolith]

[trail swift]

oh god i hit the profile change key on my keyboard somehow and its blinding me

[main abyss]

good response time you can keep your job for now

[trail swift]

is zolrath that useless :q

i mean i know he is with my current investment outside of charmizard

but what aboot invested

[storm moth]

hes good

but you shouldnt have him this early

[trail swift]

yeah but

i do

so i'm just wonderan

once i get abrutus star i'll finish mortas to M then either twins or haelus..and eventually be where i shud be

[lapis moth]

[misty epoch]

30 battles

[storm moth]

i need to fix those 2

i could just give up on ldv raku and put raku back to scarlet

and for ldv run some bs

@opal bone how did you split scarlet and how is wr?

[opal bone]

Let me check wr

[storm moth]

ogey

[misty epoch]

You said JoA good in Scarlet

[storm moth]

with raku

[misty epoch]

Oh

[storm moth]

i didnt say that part but shush

[opal bone]

Mishka, Joan, Lyca, Scarlet, Astar 60%. Then I copied Townbull's Raku team, at 35% atm.

arthur/geralt raku/ldv/kren

[storm moth]

hmm

what pets?

[opal bone]

I don't get

Why I am not climbing higher

My GBs are 100%

Ainz 96%

This is some bs

[storm moth]

yeah i always see you at 70 sth lmao

[opal bone]

If I had Athane

I'd be t50

My Athane team 20%

I used lvl 6 fire lizard for raku, lvl 9 lion in scarlet

[misty epoch]

How can you run Athane team if you don't have Athane?

[opal bone]

Mthane

[misty epoch]

MmmmThane

🤤

[storm moth]

my whane gud

[misty epoch]

Damn

Teach me

Mine's only 71%

[storm moth]

btw that comp with whane i sent you yesterday

yeah no

it was 40%

[opal bone]

[misty epoch]

[opal bone]

I have better Whane team than poe

Just no whane

[misty epoch]

[storm moth]

then its not better

[opal bone]

Why is Lucy so low

I don't understand

Even at 4 team she was higher.

But just goes lower instead of higher.

[storm moth]

get better twins frfr

[opal bone]

1. Saving gazers for potential TG exchange.
2. Saving gazers for Whane star.
3. Saving gazers for Haelus.
4. ???
5. Profit

Then come Twins, possibly.

[misty epoch]

Can my Wutus lose already?

[storm moth]

oh i should save gazers then

[earnest tendon]

can u guys help me with 5th 6th teams?

managed to yoink together 5 decent teams (imo) but have no clue what to do with 6th lol

[opal bone]

Just BS go

Most people with similar box to you do that.

Can do LDV/Raku/Kren with Arthur + 1 more tank

[earnest tendon]

but my arthur is used for ainz

[storm moth]

do you have yen

[lapis moth]

use arthurless ainz

[earnest tendon]

whos that i had like a 2 month skip

[storm moth]

ah

then you dont

[opal bone]

I forgot people use Arthur in Ainz

[earnest tendon]

yennefer or who the witcher colab?

[opal bone]

Do you have Joan?

[earnest tendon]

not yet only half way

[storm moth]

yeah same lmao

[earnest tendon]

arthur not used with ainz anymore?

[opal bone]

Not really.

[earnest tendon]

my yen is si20 and thats all

[opal bone]

Usually Albedo and Merlin or Joan front

[storm moth]

hmm what region are you?

[opal bone]

That's decent, can use her middle of the backline, and frontline Merlin.

[earnest tendon]

how do i check that lol

[storm moth]

leaderboard

[earnest tendon]

oh reg 7

[storm moth]

[opal bone]

[storm moth]

yeah i dont think that 200 yen works there

[earnest tendon]

whats wrong with reg 7 lol

[storm moth]

its old

and a lot of whales

[earnest tendon]

ofc im old player

s196

[opal bone]

Your box is very under developed compared to the average player in your region.

So you're a bit screwed.

[earnest tendon]

well that overall 5-6months of afk didnt help it

guess that still an achievement then if i managed to get into no. 5.6% then

well thanks for the ideas tho ill try to work on them

[trail swift]

i made my account then uninstalled and came back 3 months later lol

missed out sum stuff but eh, still hit 2-3% and better each week

that'll prolly slow down a lil til i get some important heroez

[gilded salmon]

yeah I wasn't really maxing my rewards every day the first month and halfish I played but I'm sure its not too big a deal

[gaunt marten]

To put it in perspective I'm in r32 which is like full of over 2 year old accounts and had to whale around 7k to even hit 1%

R8 is older

And my region is considered easy

Let me go look rn who is in r8

[storm moth]

probably zod and 9 of his alts

[gaunt marten]

Well the first chunk of the leader board is already a division ahead of me and I'm rank 17 so

Yeah even bottom of 100 has 4 awakened

Seeing a lot of BNB

[opal bone]

12 is even more cursed

[gaunt marten]

Lemme see

[gilded salmon]

bnb?

[opal bone]

Doesn't matter that I have 3 Aws. Everyone has them + Abaden + bigger investments.

[gaunt marten]

When the first 30 people are in the bracket ahead of me on a region

I am scared

[opal bone]

I give up on this buff.

It's mainly investment buff.

[gaunt marten]

Vibecheck

I like this buff because smoothbrain krakens using the same plug n play comps from other seasons and getting curb stomped to hell by my best 3 comps regardless of how many shiny stars they have

Use your brains cmon do something interesting

But without a good abaden this would be much harder

[opal bone]

Abaden is best team

Outside Kraken comps

[gaunt marten]

Abaden IS the team

Only thing he fears is a bigger abaden

Mine got 98% last round

[opal bone]

[opal bone]

Fucking hell, those top 2 teams.

[twilit gulch]

I feel like I just get about the same rank every debuff

[gaunt marten]

I'm being hindered by not having the roster for anything decent past 5 teams

[storm moth]

that whane comp

[gaunt marten]

That's a patented z comp

Kisses it

[opal bone]

That's because you're a whale in a newish region.

[storm moth]

also that swolise comp good wtf

[twilit gulch]

[opal bone]

You will always be ahead of non spenders/lower spenders

And behind bigger spenders.

This changes with time.

[storm moth]

i mean mingles is right

[gaunt marten]

I need cruke for abrutus bc he has slightly higher wr with him than when I put trez there and trez works really well in that solise comp anyways

[opal bone]

With enough time your bigger spending won't matter as much compared to people spending less, because most comps/heroes will be soft capped.

[gaunt marten]

Optimally you'd use cruke

[opal bone]

And same is true for you and the people spending more.

That's when bigger fluctuations can happen.

[storm moth]

is bedo even worth for than single yen?

[gilded salmon]

except thats when they add a new system that you need to pay more for again

[gaunt marten]

I've tried literally everything

[storm moth]

hmm

[gaunt marten]

And yen gets the kill that way 1/3 of the time

So I kept what got me more than 50%

[storm moth]

build frampton fr

[gaunt marten]

I refuse to get ainz

I have 1 copy of fram

[storm moth]

[gaunt marten]

Was funny when arkinz was like well nothing is a problem for you cause you have the roster

And I said I had to gaze 1 copy of fram for crimson snow

And he went, oh

[storm moth]

lmaoo

build him he op

[gaunt marten]

He overestimate what people have

I'm thinking about him

Because then I can move trez back with abaden

[opal bone]

This is top 10 in my region.

Can use albedo here over Asolise

[gaunt marten]

I wish

Really funny to me this season is when ppl started copying my abaden comp?

But with shit that wasn't invested enough

I know it was mine cause I have yet to see anyone else doing that specific comp plus trez frontline on my region

God I don't want to build abelinda

[storm moth]

@opal bone how many sg cards should i save for this possible tot exchange?

around 100?

[gaunt marten]

Her sprite looks like half finished half baked ass

[opal bone]

Iirc last year it was 200 max, with 20 a day?

I don't remember, joined right when it ended.

[storm moth]

hmm ic

[opal bone]

Might've been 5/day.

But it was around 200.

[gaunt marten]

I haven't heard a whiff of an exchange event

[opal bone]

Yea, this is mostly hopium.

[gaunt marten]

I know about most things about 2 months in advance

I would be very very surprised

[opal bone]

[gaunt marten]

I just don't want people to call me a liar

When it doesn't happen

[opal bone]

People be mad.

[gaunt marten]

They do

I shared robos thing people immediately got mad at ME

At my me?

👉

Why no?

I have yet to see robo share anything that wasn't mostly true

[storm moth]

wtf gabe why is belinda op

shame on you

[opal bone]

I heard they might be adding TG as end of campaign chapter rewards.

[gaunt marten]

Whatever if the peasants dont want 20 tc then that's their fault

[storm moth]

yeah that might be true but thats after ch40

[gaunt marten]

Yeah that's what I shared from robos post in taverns

People got mad

[opal bone]

Chapter 48 here

[storm moth]

i got mad at lilith

[gaunt marten]

Should be ch 30 tbh

[opal bone]

If I get good rates I could finish Abaden.

[gaunt marten]

I think that's fair

[opal bone]

I agree.

[gaunt marten]

Awakened are mid game units not end game units

[storm moth]

because 20 tot cards after ch40 is not really more tot cards

[gaunt marten]

Yeah I know

[opal bone]

95% of player base will get between 0 and 80 tg cards.

[gaunt marten]

How long does it take a f2p to get past 40

[opal bone]

Like 9 months

[storm moth]

uhh im 10 months in and 40-40

[gaunt marten]

And yall play smart

[storm moth]

should be around 9 month tho because i fucked up a little in early game

[gaunt marten]

There's gonna be ppl not even close who play semi casual who aren't gonna get shit

[storm moth]

yeah lol

[gaunt marten]

I'm frankly mad they released abelindas sprite looking like that

[storm moth]

im gonna get 20-40 cards max in next couple of months

[gaunt marten]

Thats supposed to be a 500-600$ unit

[storm moth]

that is if i force myself to push camp

[gaunt marten]

It looks like a skin

Not even as detailed as wu Kong skin

Abrutus' leg has more love put into it

The animations are lazy

Multibillion dollar company

[storm moth]

small indie company***

[gaunt marten]

I'm not sure I'm hopeful this is a solise situation where it's kinda a disappointing event and the model is kinda eh except solises isn't her tail and animations are complex

I'm thinking they might just be slopping this at us now

As soon as abaden was over I said they used up all the juice on that

Really meant it as a joke

We're gonna get increasingly busted awakened with less and less effort put into it

If they continue at 1 every 2 months

[cold ridge]

You‘re still saving for SgTg exchange? Don‘t u think this should be leaked long since it should be before Ainzlinda release?
At least that‘s why I spent my >500 cards on Vei and stopped saving

[opal bone]

Until 0% chance I'll hold.

Since I don't have 500+ anyway.

[cold ridge]

So forever

[opal bone]

If nothing about it after Abelinda event is over then I spend.

So 2 weeks or so.

[cold ridge]

Sounds reasonable

[earnest tendon]

nani u can get to that with f2p now that fast

[storm moth]

yes

[gaunt marten]

The most sensible place to have an exchange would be between the awakened cycles

Which would be after abelinda and before whatever new event we get

But I haven't heard anything

[lapis moth]

jk he big whale

[gaunt marten]

And devs have said they aren't interested in doing it again

[earnest tendon]

meanwhile me sitting on ch 41 3yrs in as f2p

[gaunt marten]

But also devs change their minds ie "we would like to avoid Chinese mythology in the future to keep the western aesthetic of the game"

Which I'm actually glad they changed their mind on no reason not to have just western mythology

[gaunt marten]

Exactly why if this is legit it's gonna help very few people who need it

Just disappointing

[earnest tendon]

wdym by that

[restive goblet]

The last/only exchange was 30 days of being able to exchange 5 cards each day, so 150 total and you only needed like ~100 saved up because they gave us a bunch of sg cards during that period

[gaunt marten]

Not many f2p past ch 40

[lapis moth]

[gilded salmon]

shit I need to start saving cards then just in case

[gaunt marten]

Comparatively speaking

[earnest tendon]

ah i see
i could get to ch42 probably im just lazy

[gaunt marten]

It's fine I don't touch campaign until people mess with me I'm in 40 somewhere

I hate campaign

I want to beat ass

[earnest tendon]

i have the lvl for sure seeing poehoe being on ch40 with lvl 389 or what

[lapis moth]

cuz whel.

campaign not hard if you build right and copy clears

[earnest tendon]

tbf now campaign progress kind of just a flex thing cuz u dont get much out of it

[lapis moth]

MV rewards up to 42 sir

And after that it's free rewards so why not

[earnest tendon]

oh tru but yeah

[gaunt marten]

Campaign boring and fry my phone

[earnest tendon]

play on pc 5head

[lapis moth]

Use BlueStacks or ld player

[gaunt marten]

Bluestacks makes computer angry

I just hate campaign

[gilded salmon]

I think I'm stuck in campaign right now until I can get to rc 240 and beyond, all the formations at my level have engraved daimon and higher power rating

[lapis moth]

Btw buy dust chests if you are f2p and not doing that

[gilded salmon]

Always have been, I'm really close if I use all the dust in my bags too, just need a bit more

[storm moth]

top 80

i have to push rift to +20 sonja

[lapis moth]

sir teach my ainz to do better please

tf 75%

67% cycle

whel

[storm moth]

[restive goblet]

dreary ball outdamaged raku

[storm moth]

would 200 sonja be better than this pleb skreg?

[lapis moth]

been told she somewhat works at si20 but idk

9f kinda big for her imo

this debuff might be better though cuz more time to ramp up

[gaunt marten]

Idk I think either one at those investments just one meatshield or another

Shes godtier in this debuff

[storm moth]

hmm

so i have to push rift to 270

to +20 her

[gaunt marten]

[lapis moth]

no hurry imo if you don't have furns and might have higher prios

[storm moth]

fair enough

[lapis moth]

but push rift lazy sir

[gaunt marten]

Lolol

[storm moth]

im 230 now

[gaunt marten]

Is she on furn list

[storm moth]

i dont have space

[gaunt marten]

Aw man

F2p problems

[lapis moth]

took her off wl at 7 furns cuz no space

and probably got like 5+ higher si prios to do first anyway

[dapper sequoia]

Hey

[gaunt marten]

Me looking at half my wl being dupes

Hi

[lapis moth]

[storm moth]

i might put her on wl after i get 9f astar/kren tho

[gaunt marten]

My rank is going up again??

I'm 15

Well okay cool

Yeah astar op

[storm moth]

8f both

[earnest tendon]

i was able to 9f astar but have higher prio for si

[gaunt marten]

Hi what is happening

[misty epoch]

Hawt

[gaunt marten]

Team 4 no chill

[storm moth]

wtf they swapped their wrs

[gaunt marten]

And I'm back in top 20

Last 2 comps about same wr not important

[storm moth]

show

[gaunt marten]

Stop with the abrutus dims!!!! Do something else!!!

Or get stomped ig

[gaunt marten]

No

[storm moth]

yes

ples

[gaunt marten]

You know where to find me

[storm moth]

what wr

[vernal vessel]

Lvl 18 pets

[gaunt marten]

Wanna see the whole box

[vernal vessel]

Yes!

[gaunt marten]

Behold

[vernal vessel]

[gaunt marten]

I have bigger pets than flaw

[storm moth]

gabe do you play cr

[gaunt marten]

No I don't have a lot of the base units

[storm moth]

fair enough

[gaunt marten]

I hit it like twice

I will try harder when I have more shit

[storm moth]

with those pets and a little bit better tree you could hit really hard you know

[gaunt marten]

I know I just don't have a lot of necessary units

[storm moth]

yeah understandable

[vernal vessel]

You’ll have them in no time anyways

[storm moth]

also @proven hearth big whale top 3

[gaunt marten]

And it's frustrating to me to spend 1000s of diamonds tweaking things when I won't get top 10%

Bc some units just don't have good replacements

[storm moth]

build them all

[gaunt marten]

Tryinf

Double garrison rn

[storm moth]

also you want ainz for cr

[gaunt marten]

No

@proven hearth

Eat woodussy nyan

[storm moth]

you do

he does nice dmg

[gaunt marten]

No

[storm moth]

and i dont think belinda can replace him in idre

[gaunt marten]

But abelinda migjt

[storm moth]

krakinz said no

i think

[gaunt marten]

I'm in such excruciating pain rn I am at my limit I am trying to set 7 teams and I think I just want to cross my fingers I don't get 400 points next round

Cr mutable

Who knows

[gilded salmon]

[misty epoch]

Kraken zoo

[storm moth]

talismane 18 when

for pfp

not to use him ofc

just for pfp

[twilit gulch]

See

That's a real whale

Not imposters like me

[storm moth]

mf you are vip 13 4 months in

that whale

[vernal vessel]

Vip13 in 4months sounds like mid spender to me lol

[storm moth]

it doesnt to me

[gaunt marten]

What am I if vip 16 in 3 months

[vernal vessel]

Whale

[gaunt marten]

Besides making questionable choices

[vernal vessel]

Vip13 in 4month is about 500ish€ a month that’s not really whalish

A lot of my friends that I played with in rok are spending that amount a day in off season

[gaunt marten]

The fuck

[obtuse mauve]

500 euros a month? If that's not whaling....

[civic sage]

That's light spending

[obtuse mauve]

Ok, maybe dolphin, but not krill

[vernal vessel]

Whaling for me is 3k-5k avg per month

Above that kraken

[obtuse mauve]

Ok, that's fair, but it's still a lot of money for salarymen standards

[vernal vessel]

Totally, i would suggest anyone to only spend money that they don’t need

If they spend

[obtuse mauve]

Imagine paying 4-5 AAA games a month just for afk... That's madness

[vernal vessel]

Otherwise it’s just dumb lol.

[twilit gulch]

Someone finally understands

[gilded salmon]

If you're spending hundreds a month thats whaling

imo

[gaunt marten]

Nah

Not in afk

Hundreds doesn't even get you much in afk

[twilit gulch]

RoK whales swipe like thousands in rss per battle

[vernal vessel]

There are crazy successful people that are playing rok for example Marquinhos the soccer player from psg, or the ceo from axie infinity

[gaunt marten]

Yeah makes sense

[vernal vessel]

Yup

[gaunt marten]

Idk I'm just here to collect my pixel men

[vernal vessel]

There are players that spend 100k and after that just to quit after playing 6monthd

[civic sage]

'soccer'

[gaunt marten]

And might as well pvp while I'm here

[vernal vessel]

Months

[opal bone]

I see TS channel is full of whale behaviour, as per usual.

[twilit gulch]

The thing with afk is that there's at least a spending limit cuz u just max everything

Other games like rok

Its endless

[gaunt marten]

That's always genuinely disturbing to me when we get someone brand new who comes into main chat ignoring any advice after asking for opinions just to be like yeah I'm gonna drop like 10k rn anyways

[gilded salmon]

I'd love to have that kind of money

[gaunt marten]

And they're like yeah spent 6 digits on whatever other game then got bored 3 months later

Nah these people I suspect have an actual addiction

I don't think they have the money

[gilded salmon]

yeah true

[gaunt marten]

I don't have a credit card

[twilit gulch]

[gaunt marten]

Everything I do is in cash and debit

[twilit gulch]

Why don't u have a credit card

Wtf

U don't ever take out loans?

[gilded salmon]

I don't either, although I should cause that means no credit score

[gaunt marten]

I can't fuckinf get one they say I don't have credit even though ive rented my own apartment for 5 years

[gilded salmon]

I took out student loans but that doesnt go on a card

[gaunt marten]

I'm like a ghost in the fucking system

[twilit gulch]

Beginner credit cards need like nothing

[gaunt marten]

Ugh okay mom

[twilit gulch]

Should start building credit tbh

[gaunt marten]

I AM SUPPOSED TO HAVE CREDIT

[gilded salmon]

I just need a job, haven't been able to find shit since graduating months ago

[gaunt marten]

I don't know how I dont

[twilit gulch]

You don't have credit if u don't have a credit card

[gaunt marten]

Credit cards aren't the only thing that reports credit

I have a phone, I rent under my name

All that should get reported

It's bizarre

[twilit gulch]

What card are you trying to get?

[gaunt marten]

I'm about to inherite my dad's accounts so I guess I'll have whatever credit he had

[twilit gulch]

[gaunt marten]

Hope it was good credit

[twilit gulch]

Don't think that's how it works

[vernal vessel]

My parents signed up a credit card under my name, when I was born and built my credit since then.

[twilit gulch]

Lol

[restive goblet]

Your rent payments only improve your credit score if the landlord reports them to credit agencies, which doesn’t always happen as far as I know

[gaunt marten]

No it does when you have accounts signed over

Cause was talking to the lawyer about it

[gaunt marten]

Landlord can barely keep laundry room functioning

Get me out of here

[twilit gulch]

[vernal vessel]

😂

[twilit gulch]

Meanwhile ur whaling in afk

[gaunt marten]

I can move problem is I haven't decided where yet and I don't want to change my address while doing this probate shit

Will make things unnecessarily complicated

[gaunt marten]

I'm coping

Hey could be worse

And I'm cutting back to just monthly and nobles after abelinda I'm not happy with the quality of this event and not interested in spending much

I already got almost everything I wanted anyways

I spend about as much on afk art commissions too

I need yuexi well refresh now pls

[storm moth]

[vernal vessel]

I just found out today that there is a pity for yuexi

[gaunt marten]

Futbol

I hit the pity once

[vernal vessel]

It’s 40 or something like that but you need to single pull instead of 10x pull

[gaunt marten]

Imagine if there wasn't

[vernal vessel]

I used to always 10 pull

[restive goblet]

oh good I’m 3/4 of the way to a single pity

just need to wait like five more months

[gaunt marten]

That's so sad

[molten sparrow]

What should I use for my 5th team?

I always forget about ts. I'm now 80%

[quartz salmon]

Ts is the best game mode

Tons of rewards, don’t have to do much

Just activate copium! and leave it

[icy surge]

Nah, it's a stressful stuff

[quartz salmon]

Ts is tense

[icy surge]

As a f2p, it will just make you see how bad your heroes suck

[quartz salmon]

That’s what I like

[quartz salmon]

Not in newer regions hehe

I’m having fun

[icy surge]

I believe that's something "for now"

My alts are in region 4/8

[quartz salmon]

I mean box is kinda restricted for t5, I would love Arthur or Joan from dims and put mortas backline in there, then do joan/Arthur geralt raku nev kren

[icy surge]

And, top 100 it's full of lvl 850 players

[quartz salmon]

Or sum

[quartz salmon]

Yeah lol, my rank is starting to diminish because more and more spenders occupy t100

[molten sparrow]

I don't know. My game is weird. The reason I'm so low is because for some reason, my game never saves my teams between seasons and I forget to change them from the random bs it gives me

[icy surge]

I hardly can stay in top 2%

[quartz salmon]

Damn that’s hard

I’m hoping I can get t50 this debuff

[icy surge]

I'm having teams with 80% win rate, still, too low for top

[molten sparrow]

What would I do instead of Ainzbedo then?