treasure-scramble

[wide wasp]

Oh

[frozen crest]

even by their own independent team

dont put luc

[obtuse mauve]

I think maybe Luc fails because of the energy debuff

[frozen crest]

fera the energy denier carry

bruh

[wide wasp]

Maybe nevanthi? 20630

[obtuse mauve]

Ferael and Oden are op, maybe even worth splitting at some point

[frozen crest]

just run classic

[wide wasp]

Ok then ill put neva in later or in kren/raku team

Ima try this @quartz salmon

[icy spruce]

Wutus with Ainz in dims or still better without? I'll split eventually but for first half. I don't have Ezio so I've been running Yen in his place in Wutus Dims

[frozen crest]

i think it was worse with brutus

let me find some pics

[icy spruce]

thats what I was thinking

[craggy crown]

@gaunt marten Since we got off-course with the talk last time, what is the aThane team you were referring to when we spoke the other day?

[gaunt marten]

Who ping me

Oh you

Please know I have a five second memory and don't know what you are talking about

[craggy crown]

LMAO

[gaunt marten]

Medically I am serious

[craggy crown]

All is well - I was referring to the LB aThane team you spoke of

Alongside the uhh

Arthur/Albedo/Ainz/LDV/Merlin
Alna Grez Oden Silas Ferael

(Swapping out Arthur for Joan as per your suggestion as well)

[gaunt marten]

You could do athane lbs with palmer bc hes going to be op this season

[craggy crown]

I do not yet have Palmer

[gaunt marten]

Acquire one

Simply

[craggy crown]

I'm HCP'ing him right now, but he's just Legendary for now

[gaunt marten]

:treznap:

Depression

[craggy crown]

Any chance you'd know what a fourth team would be? And what are the other stuff with aThane?

[gaunt marten]

I thought you had abaden

Am I tripping

[craggy crown]

Oh nope not at all

Not a single copy

[gaunt marten]

Okay someone else then

[craggy crown]

Saving up time cards right now, I just recently finished 309e60'ing aThane

[gaunt marten]

Noice

Show box again

[craggy crown]

So these are the two teams I should start off with I'm guessing

Sure thing, let me grab screenshots real quick

[gaunt marten]

I'm still fairly new to playing competitively but I think I can at least be somewhat helpful

[icy spruce]

any ideas?

[frozen crest]

cant find ss

@lilac bobcat hey z

is wutus dims better or classic ainz

[mortal sentinel]

Classic ainz is better in ice TS

[molten sparrow]

So, I want to do better than 60% this time. I'm wondering how good these formations are and if I need to change something. I know that Lucreita cycle isn't that good but, I don't have anything else better to run in place

[lilac bobcat]

Ainz

[frozen crest]

[dawn tinsel]

What’s the best Ainz team to run for me? (200e30 JoA, 203 Arthur, 209 LDV, 200 Yen, 200 M Mortas, 303 Merlin?)

[lilac bobcat]

Day 1 doesn't matter

[icy spruce]

Ty guys, Ainz it is

[lilac bobcat]

I'll just slap awake

Then wait for day 3

Also f ainz bedo team.

[dawn tinsel]

What about later?

[lilac bobcat]

Day 3

[gaunt marten]

you could try athane lbs with haelus cause even though he cant shield during this debuff he has other buffs in his kit

3 decent teams should get you somewhere

[craggy crown]

I do not know what athane lbs is

That's what I've been trying to ask xD

rosa? scarlet? estrilda? raine? gwyn? hendrik?

@gaunt marten

[gaunt marten]

OH yeah hendrik rosa on athane, then probably estrilda cause i dont see sonja

athane lb kinda means whatever lbs fit the buff/debuff

[craggy crown]

Ahh I see I see, so Rosa/Hend/aThane/Haelus/Estrilda?

[gaunt marten]

like athane lb in burst is gonna look a little different like ideally you wouldnt be using estrilda and haelus here but its what you got so

[craggy crown]

I do not have Hendrik's 3f yet, he's just got 1 furn

[gaunt marten]

hes a meat shield hes fine

[craggy crown]

Is the setup order above okay for it?

[gaunt marten]

does estrilda have 30si

eh she doesnt

[craggy crown]

Nope, 203

[gaunt marten]

should be fine since athane will jump in front and rosa will follow him anyways

[craggy crown]

Roger that

Will be curious what my team4/5/6 etc will be

Since ice debuff kinda majorly sucks from what I've heard people say, a shame that it's here so often

[gaunt marten]

im having a lot of pain so idk im probably forgetting something but that should be good enough

well theres only 3 seasons

and they cycle lol

[craggy crown]

Should only include that every 10th season 😉

[gaunt marten]

ice just fucks up a lot of peoples comps they have preset

thats all

its not really that hard

but also i have maxed abaden so

[craggy crown]

yeah I forgot to copy down the comps I had before

So I might have to see if I can find screenshots here

[gaunt marten]

you dont want burst in this

ice is the opposite of last season

[craggy crown]

no I know, but for the next debuff

[gaunt marten]

basically

[craggy crown]

So that I don't lose them

[gaunt marten]

next is fire

itll save your comps when you get back to forest season

[craggy crown]

These were my teams for the last debuff

[gaunt marten]

see you know what athane lb is lol you were kinda doing it

i think skreg is kinda fucky this season

a lot of maulers eat ass this season

[craggy crown]

I didn't know it because the team was overridden xD

And my memory is kinda oof at times so I gotta remind myself by looking at screenshots, but as it was ice debuff I thought it was different

[gaunt marten]

like anasta is basically worthless this season cause no shields

abrutus struggles

[craggy crown]

so in conclusion

Ice sucks ass

xD

[gaunt marten]

okay checked skreg he doesnt have shields so i dont think this season really effects him

i cant remember

well it sucks if your only awakened is abrutus

[storm moth]

what teams do i start with

[gaunt marten]

first get your maxed abaden,

[craggy crown]

I'll get yours :3

[gaunt marten]

good fucking luck

i have so many requests at rollover for him it lags my game

i saw yudiat in here for like .5 seconds

yudiat i miss you in lore

[red apex]

[gaunt marten]

[red apex]

How you know I was lurking in here

[gaunt marten]

you were typing for like a split second

theres a lot more people who lurk this channel than i expected

[sacred notch]

because no one is able to think for themselves

[red apex]

Really? Probably a bug, I was just trying to read the old chat. Not typing anything at all

[gaunt marten]

discord tattling

[gaunt marten]

im trying so hard

[sacred notch]

Make me teams plz

[gaunt marten]

i need an even more distressed treznor to respond to that with

that ones not upset enough

[frozen crest]

unfortunate truth

[gaunt marten]

i follow the top 20 then immediately disregard whatever the fuck theyre doing

then just make teams of my blorbos and win

[frozen crest]

i pray and i get rank

B)

[sacred notch]

If we didn't have afkhelper and copy formations. So many people would quit

[gaunt marten]

theres like 10 people keeping afk alive with duct tape and fishing line

[sacred notch]

I like watching people struggle in campaign

It's funny

[gaunt marten]

its just copy paste

run for an hour

[storm moth]

me stoopid

i dont have dias for tot card

[frozen crest]

there would be chads at top 20 in ts but stuck in chapter 25

[gaunt marten]

swipe harder

[storm moth]

nou

[gaunt marten]

i have to wait 4 days for yuexi reset so i can beef up mulan

fml

want to see how she does in ts

[storm moth]

i want to 209 her if shes good

[gaunt marten]

im rushing her furn rn

[storm moth]

maybe even e30/60

[gaunt marten]

shes already 20

sig

i mean

[storm moth]

yh

[storm moth]

flaw said that e68 but thats expensive af

[gaunt marten]

i dont know whether i want to- yeah that

i dont know if i want to do that or hold engrave mats for abelinda

who will almost definitely need them

[frozen crest]

should do 69

dummy

[storm moth]

belinda needs to he 2lene lvl

[storm moth]

im waiting for a hero with optimal 209e69

so i can build

[gaunt marten]

i dont have any leaks on her kit

wish i did

very very very hard to get people to leak shit like that

we might be seeing mage meta in ts again

[storm moth]

[gaunt marten]

i dont see them changing her class

[lilac bobcat]

Not even 309

That's not kraken of you

[restive goblet]

Mulan’s 9f is gonna be so good for burst week

[storm moth]

stfu z @lilac bobcat

[lilac bobcat]

Why so poor not even si30

Imagine e60+ without si30

[storm moth]

ym

[lilac bobcat]

Skill issue

[dusk tundra]

What for team 4?

[frozen crest]

wutus invade perhaps

[steady hill]

u have mulan?

[gaunt marten]

yeah

dont look at me

[steady hill]

let me know if she good

cause i simp mulan

[granite mason]

me too

[frozen crest]

skeepies said she's shit

so she's, unfortunately, shit

[storm moth]

skeepies said that whane is better than uwutus too

so yeah i agree, shes shit

[frozen crest]

half of what he says is clown

we all know wutus>whane

[storm moth]

yeah ofc

[frozen crest]

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-creepy-clown-gif-25085093

[lapis moth]

prayge skeepies is right

[storm moth]

is this gear good enough

for that stoopid charm

[frozen crest]

yes

[lapis moth]

[storm moth]

[frozen crest]

i only have t4 weap boots

[storm moth]

ogey

[frozen crest]

rest is t2 too iirc

[lapis moth]

can't overinvest in rosa

[frozen crest]

oh wait, only got t4 boots

[storm moth]

and now i dont have gold for possible ldv boots

[carmine shale]

Just e61 her with haste node /s

[storm moth]

[frozen crest]

what's with the /s

[lapis moth]

I thought you had t4 ldv boots

[frozen crest]

it;s not even enough

[carmine shale]

Madao and raku, my two favorite peeps

[storm moth]

wdym im using t3 from fera on him

[lapis moth]

[frozen crest]

madao r u gonna run thane gb//ainz//split thane//wutus

or wutus at 5

or 6

[lapis moth]

how did you clear 40-20-5 than

[storm moth]

it was enough if i wanted to manual it

but i merced

and auto

[lapis moth]

what's thane // split thane

[carmine shale]

Isn't 40-20-5 the thoran stage?

[storm moth]

nope

[frozen crest]

thane gbs

[storm moth]

its ldv raku

[frozen crest]

3 teams u do thane lb and alna gb

like u run thane alna on 1st

[carmine shale]

That's what in doing^

[frozen crest]

bruh i suck at explaining

[carmine shale]

With vesperio for the extra spicy negative energy lmfao

[lapis moth]

I copy from you guys

[carmine shale]

I'm using ainz as second comp tho

[lapis moth]

my 2nd time with any recollection for this debuff

sucks memory

[frozen crest]

ur turn to test

heh

oh yeah u also have wolise

perhaps scarlet cycle

[carmine shale]

What 2nd comp you running for 2 teams?

[frozen crest]

with wolise

[lapis moth]

hmm

solise will only be 303e0 though

[storm moth]

madao you have 3 awks?

[frozen crest]

youll do baden next right?

[lapis moth]

I'm at 40 pulls for last copy

[frozen crest]

or wait for new woke

[carmine shale]

I'm 1 copy away from abrutus...

[storm moth]

fucking kraken

[carmine shale]

Done like 40 pulls already

[lapis moth]

hopefully wait for new woke unless I get impatient from lack of mercs

[carmine shale]

See that's my problem

My next target I'd asolise

[lapis moth]

cuz smoku keeps stealing kadezh mercs

[frozen crest]

he's low spender

[carmine shale]

But what if next awakened celestial is busted

[frozen crest]

he just too optimal from nihilum's teaching

:3

[storm moth]

[still heron]

[frozen crest]

u get both

if that happens

but until then we pray that it's ezizh tier

or walene

[carmine shale]

Sigh unzips wallet

[frozen crest]

what kind of wallet zips

tf

[carmine shale]

Xd

[storm moth]

if belinda isnt 2lene tier im gonna be sadge

[carmine shale]

I cant wait for abrutus tho

Basically 2/3 of TS I'm guarenteed t50, ice debuff is always dicey

[frozen crest]

brlinda?

[storm moth]

next aw

[carmine shale]

They will do the same thing they have done with all awakened versions, same hero, just upgraded with 3x more damage

So belinda will just drop a nuke on ult

The new ainz

[gaunt marten]

ewwww campaign talk in ts channel

[frozen crest]

what

so it's not gonna be cele first

?

[gaunt marten]

for belinda yeah

[carmine shale]

Like that's literally it

[frozen crest]

very counterable

[carmine shale]

She'll be new ainz, calling it now

[gaunt marten]

no youre right

i dont know her kit but like

thats where were headed

i hate mage meta its so fucking boring

[carmine shale]

I like agile meta

Burst and anti burst teams are so versatile

[lapis moth]

ezizh is mage

hope she will be like ezizh

[gaunt marten]

awzizh is yeah

i dont think theyre gonna make that mistake again

i dont want ainz 2.0 part of one of the times i quit was pvp was so fucking boring

[lapis moth]

at least ainz was cheap

so everyone has it

[trail swift]

should i still use lucy instead of grez in alna gb if i no has athalia? (using oden instead)

[frozen crest]

no

[trail swift]

so just str8 alna gb? like campaign

[frozen crest]

yes

[trail swift]

dank

[frozen crest]

trust me bro

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/727662236373483592/1057383269278158868/4x.gif

[trail swift]

idk what to use this deboof

[frozen crest]

front merlin back joa

[trail swift]

oki

[storm moth]

why

[frozen crest]

idk

[storm moth]

ok

now give rng for 40-26

[frozen crest]

forgot

[storm moth]

[trail swift]

is it worth spending rc on merlin once he hits 9f for ts/general use? cause this dim event i won’t be able to finish his si25 for months with just lab points

it seems kinda big deal reading teh description

[frozen crest]

spending rc?

oh red chests

[trail swift]

like red chests to 25>30 his si instead of delaying to buy dim things from lab

i have 300+ so eh

[frozen crest]

ur choice

[trail swift]

2 targets plus -50% mirrored dmg taken. seems kinda big. i’ll decide after he gets 9f doe

[trail swift]

is scarlet burst decent on this debuff

[opal bone]

wtf why steal my gif

[frozen crest]

60% at 7 teams
26% at 5 teams based on old ss s

[misty epoch]

Pretty shit

[frozen crest]

i dont see your name on it

'tis mine

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/840297676892405770.gif?size=80&quality=lossless

[lapis moth]

maybe I steal too

[storm moth]

what teams should i use

lucy gbs and whane lbs?

[frozen crest]

whane gb and ainz or whane lb with grez gb

1st could be better

[storm moth]

why not lucy in gbs tho

is she bad or sum

[frozen crest]

idk man

grez skellies still get shield and he gets a higher wr than luc

i have no idea why but it is what it is

[storm moth]

[frozen crest]

prob wont matter 1st day tho

[storm moth]

yeah tru

im gonna use whane gbs and ainz ig

[raven lark]

should i use mortas or rowan for this

[frozen crest]

my information is 3 months old so it might not be good

til then, have fun

[opal bone]

Just blame Raku for no t100

[still heron]

Its always nerds

[frozen crest]

believe bro

trust

[opal bone]

Can't blame Nerds when Nerds himself gets 2%.

At that point it's your fault.

[opal vessel]

Are there any flaws in the builds? I haven't played for a long time and just don't have some characters

[lapis moth]

sir whane instead of oden or grez?

[misty epoch]

Grez

[lapis moth]

thx

[warped jay]

Who or what is whane?

[lapis moth]

whane

[gaunt marten]

What is whane, twin to the person who said what is trez yesterday

[misty epoch]

[gaunt marten]

Sexy athane

[misty epoch]

Are you cheating on Baeden?

Smh

[gaunt marten]

You do not even comprehend the polycule I have created of them

It's like a relationship dodecahedron

[still heron]

Which route did u choose, gabe ?

[round agate]

red

[gaunt marten]

Green

U are not gabe

[round agate]

cuz charmander op

lmao i can't even read sry

[gaunt marten]

What region

Lol no it was funny

[round agate]

r6 iirc

[gaunt marten]

Sounds hard

[still heron]

Ive started on the left

[round agate]

well it is r6

[gaunt marten]

Like the kraken you are

I'll have mulan built in 4 days

Excited to see what she does

[still heron]

I have her in 2 month

[gaunt marten]

Nit very kraken of you

[still heron]

No furn slot

[gaunt marten]

[still heron]

So why should i buy her

[gaunt marten]

:treznap:

[umbral orbit]

Would anyone be willing to help me make ts teams by any chance?

[gaunt marten]

Very sad

Jumpscare

No celepogs or dims?

[umbral orbit]

E+ (twins, wukong) E Talene, haleus moreal and flora for cele and E+ mortas E framton and luc, no dims

i have enough to garrison albedo/ainz, but i dont got the RC for albedo yet

oh and 4 furn on ainz

[civic sage]

Who’s whane is that

[lapis moth]

it belongs to a whale sir

[storm moth]

@opal bone what route

[storm moth]

mine ofc

[spiral sinew]

Can anyone help me with TS teams please?

[storm moth]

@quartz salmon what route

[quartz salmon]

Ranger iirc, I click randomly tbh

[storm moth]

ic

[quartz salmon]

You?

[storm moth]

middle

idk which one it is

[quartz salmon]

Its ranger

I clicked middle aswell

[storm moth]

[opal vessel]

[storm moth]

btw cant you just leave 40-20 overnight smh

[quartz salmon]

I did that. For like, 5 days

[storm moth]

oof

[quartz salmon]

Im taking a break from campaign lol

[storm moth]

that sucks af

[quartz salmon]

What annoys me is I don’t understand what’s different

I’ll give it a second try next week

I can’t believe I logged into the game on my phone with 1 round left to do

[storm moth]

show tree

[quartz salmon]

I could have cleared it 6 days ago

Ranger at max

[storm moth]

yeah i dont understand why raku isnt getting ulted

[obtuse mauve]

Raku should never ult in campaign, must do manual sometimes

[quartz salmon]

For that stage it’s not necessary, I haven’t seen a manual actually in replay

Silas doesn’t want to get close to Raku

Sassy bitch

[obtuse mauve]

Even then, usually it is much lower rng when manual

I usually do the raku manual, then put on auto and go to sleep for the others

[quartz salmon]

Yes but I don’t want to be on afk arena doing manual for 4h

[storm moth]

its not the problem here bro

[quartz salmon]

By the way Grez for r1 is MUCH and I mean MUCH better rng

Even tho scarlet has more cc Grez just works so well

It’s like a 3/4 min clear while scarlet could sometimes take me 45min

[storm moth]

good thing you told me that now

[quartz salmon]

Ahah

[storm moth]

after 5h on that round alone

[quartz salmon]

Lol

[twilit gulch]

[dawn tinsel]

Are you talking about 40-20? I’ve been stuck on that for a while too. Just got Silas 9/9, so will retry r5 with that, and try Grez for r1.

[quartz salmon]

Yup lol that one. Cool well good luck with r5, could you tell me if you clear it I’m kinda desperate rn

Or if I can simply add you

[storm moth]

wait do you have 9/9 silas?

james

[quartz salmon]

Yes

[storm moth]

[quartz salmon]

Maybe my Alna is broke

Can I borrow your Alna

[dawn tinsel]

140918404 - feel free to add me. Not sure I’ll try today - might wait till the weekend because I’m a bit sick of campaign pushing…

[storm moth]

yeah

what arti

[quartz salmon]

Haha same, cool thanks

I think it’s eye for that clear let me check

[storm moth]

[quartz salmon]

Hmm wait

If I give back Eironn to evoo

Can I merc him again

Like same Eironn

[storm moth]

not this week

[quartz salmon]

Nvm there is plenty of Eironn lol who needs him besides me

[storm moth]

[quartz salmon]

Nice deficit

[dawn tinsel]

Haha thanks - not really credit to me though as I’ve just been copy pasting some combination of firefly/duu/madao/Raku for the most part.

[quartz salmon]

I’m doing exactly the same lol.

Btw you might get pcapped for stage 28 and 32 with Raku/madao clear

wait no it’s 29 33 or something

[dawn tinsel]

Lorsan? I’m saving Wilder fodder to see if i need to ascend him… will decide when I get there based on available alternative comps…

[quartz salmon]

Yeah maybe I didn’t really look it up tbh, I know Madao couldn’t use Rakus clear because of RC, and alternative is high rng

[dawn tinsel]

Anyway, we should probably stop flooding the TS chat with campaign talk before people get annoyed 😅

[storm moth]

naah

it didnt start yet

smh

[quartz salmon]

It’s typical for us to talk in random channels

[storm moth]

was it eye?

[quartz salmon]

Especially about campaign

[storm moth]

on alna

[quartz salmon]

Yup

[storm moth]

[quartz salmon]

Thanks

[dawn tinsel]

Hmm I see - I’m mostly bottle necked on gold right now. Have dust + chests saved, but focusing gold on gear upgrades + occasional si10/20…

[quartz salmon]

Yeah we are all struggling on gold it’s hard to get RC going and shop

[lapis moth]

Get level 12 pet and push towers

[dawn tinsel]

Yeah, sometimes just got to afk wait I guess…

[lapis moth]

Got like 70m gold from that

[quartz salmon]

How to get lvl 12 pet

Without walling

[lapis moth]

All spent all wolise gear though

Probably lion

[dawn tinsel]

At best I can get one pet to 9 if I use all my spices. Which one is recommended to upgrade first?

[quartz salmon]

Argh my phone

[dawn tinsel]

Answered before I asked, thanks 🙂

[quartz salmon]

Ok read that again madao

[granite mason]

owl fan where

[quartz salmon]

Nah

Looks stoned

[dawn tinsel]

😂

[granite mason]

best pet ever

🦉

[quartz salmon]

Still stoned

[granite mason]

[quartz salmon]

[lapis moth]

Wym walling the reso trick?

[quartz salmon]

No it’s whaling pronounced like a nub

Cmon man

[lapis moth]

Do you think it's a high prio for 12 more than others ?

[quartz salmon]

🐋🐋

This

[lapis moth]

I see

Idk

[quartz salmon]

Mine is lvl 9

[lapis moth]

Take it anywhere you can

[quartz salmon]

I still have my 5th pet lvl 4

Resonance crying rn

[dawn tinsel]

This was a fun (and useful) discussion - going to stop procrastinating, and start working now. Later!

[granite mason]

except lion, yes
and 18 for the haste too

[lapis moth]

Thanks

[twilit gulch]

[granite mason]

whaling time?

[twilit gulch]

I took ridge off WL when it hit 9

I'm not 🐳

[granite mason]

[onyx ridge]

Guys don't wanna be a dick but this is the TS chat

[twilit gulch]

Also gonna wait for next feedback cycle

[civic sage]

Why

[twilit gulch]

Going for 9 reso

[storm moth]

get him to 15

[dawn tinsel]

I’m assuming Lion, Owl, Blade Ridge are top 3. Which are the other two to target for reso 9 and other three for reso 12?

(Assuming it takes a while to get each reso bump, want to make sure the additional levels are going to prio pets.)

[granite mason]

fire fatty to 9 for immunity

[dawn tinsel]

Cool - and is there a clear fifth prio as well?

[civic sage]

Oh yh I forgot about that

[civic sage]

Rock

[dawn tinsel]

Perfect, thanks.

[civic sage]

Rock is the one with lvl 9 immunity btw as well

[granite mason]

yeah

[civic sage]

I don't remember what fire fatty lvl 9 does

[granite mason]

it gives invincibility after killing a certain amount of enemies for a few secs iirc
good for luc invade

[dawn tinsel]

Good to know. Is there any guide on beast - comp pairings/synergy? I just throw random beasts in right now 😅 haven’t bothered reading skills - if people are relying on common sense from descriptions, I can try doing that too, just been lazy so far.

[granite mason]

just from experience i think
waiting for some guides too

[dawn tinsel]

Cool.

[granite mason]

i want a guide with more details
when

[still heron]

Ask cero

[dawn tinsel]

This is helpful, thanks! Still requires some understanding/experience to use this, ideally we’d have something additional which lists meta comps and lists which beasts at which levels work well with the comp.

But that sounds like a lot of work to come up with that guide and this is much better than blind assignment - will probably take time + testing beyond this.

[civic sage]

That is based on pet skills/the stats you'd usually focus with each pet

Winged Lion is AGI/INT and usually used with carries like Raku/Lucretia
Ridge is INT > STR and used with carries such as Ainz/Wutus(Usually only STR hero Ridge used for)/Scarlet
Rock is usually INT but because of Rock 9 I see it used in a variety of comps and used with Scarlet for example in CR (sometimes at a lower lvl than 9)
Owl has a broken lvl 3 and usually used in any type of comp and not limited to just one type
and that's the main pets you usually focus @dawn tinsel

Fire fatty I also see with str carries like Wutus but it really depends on many factors

Outside of these 5 I don't think the rest are notable so far for f2p/low spenders, either requiring high lvls or commonly used in comps that f2p/low spenders would not use often

[granite mason]

why do you use winged lion for raku, like why do you want raku to recover energy

[civic sage]

Winged Lion is not just for energy

and regardless, Raku is rarely frontline so that doesn't really apply to him

[granite mason]

but it'll recover energy every time ur allies use an ultimate skill right

[civic sage]

oh wait I misread lvl 6

regardless my first statement is true, energy isn't the only important thing about Lion

[granite mason]

the best beast for raku is the polar one with cc

[fringe meteor]

The coming TC depends on burst ?

[civic sage]

That depends on the mode, I haven't seen polar used with Raku yet tbh

[civic sage]

This TS is not about burst

burst in fact is very weak

[fringe meteor]

Oh good to know 👍

[granite mason]

cuz no one would build polar just for that
well maybe after the resonance we can see more

[civic sage]

Cycle is relatively strong for me but it depends on your region

[fringe meteor]

I was setting my burst teams 🥹

Time to fix it

[low iron]

I found Polar best with Raku - after level 9. Actually was a big wr jump from Winged Lion back when I switched them around - around 10%, probably due to the insight and pure atk/pp - but could also be region difference and I switched to Polar for him a while ago so not super recent testing. If that helps.

[granite mason]

it ignores the enemies tenacity

ldv is shining with that

[low iron]

Yeah.

And it gives him 150 energy on his first cannon with the stun to ult earlier too.

[civic sage]

Interesting

[dawn tinsel]

This is perfect - exactly what I was looking for, thanks!

(Also noted on Polar with Raku + LDV)

[storm moth]

i aint reading allat

someone tell me what pets for what team

[sacred notch]

https://tenor.com/view/lord-have-mercy-gif-23339252

[storm moth]

[civic sage]

What I wrote isn't really about TS specifically anyway

[brave sentinel]

What's a good 3rd team if I don't have thane?

[storm moth]

ban

talking about non ts stuff in ts chat

couldnt be me

[civic sage]

🤨

[storm moth]

that was my cat (i dont have a cat)

i have a rabbit tho

she could have done it

[clever creek]

@still heron help pls

[dawn tinsel]

@storm moth I’m planning to use this, but with IceFatty specifically for Raku+LDV instead (based on the follow up discussion).

[storm moth]

ogey ty

would vesperio be good in scarlet? for energy steal

[restive goblet]

Vesperio looks pretty decent at 12

idk about 9

what do you guys think of Talismane for Athane?

40 magic suppression on thane seems pretty legit- plus the blind effect

[onyx ridge]

I'm gonna try a nevanthi comp with oden. C&R 9f plus oden should sap energy like crazy

[still heron]

?

[light pulsar]

Hi all, I was wondering if anyone here knows how good Canisa&Ruke are for the next round, and maybe in what team they perform? I remember something about them replacing Lucy/grez in alna GB, is that valid for this round as well?

[opal bone]

The route to victory.

[storm moth]

[dusk tundra]

Give me tips if I can improve somehow

[wide wasp]

Get gud

[dusk tundra]

https://tenor.com/view/kiss-yo-homies-squidward-heart-gif-23750455

[twilit gulch]

Don't think aBrutus that good in dims this round, Ezio seems to do better

Prob gonna run this for 4 teams with a few tweaks

With Merlin and Ezio the dim team would be better

Not really sure about that AThane team either

[toxic prawn]

Grez or Lucretia in gb comp?

[low iron]

• Grez says screw the rules and his Minions still have exploding shields because the debuff only affects heroes.
• Lucretia has lowered energy generation and takes much longer to ult in this debuff, which makes her vulnerable for a while and slow to hit her peak.

[dusk tundra]

Is brutus better left on the back burner this debuff?

[main abyss]

still ok later on just not at the start

[dusk tundra]

Would you say that Cycle > Athane this debuff and if so, is Athane better left in Alna comp?

[main abyss]

i usually keep athane in alna for a bit

[dusk tundra]

Ok that's good then for 3 teams I can run Lucretia cycle, Athane alna and some dims

I guess there's no guide for these kinds of things so I'll just run Yennifer in dims and see if it works

[lilac bobcat]

This isn't the first time this debuff happened. Why you don't know who's good heroes in this debuff

[dusk tundra]

Oh it's you

[restive goblet]

Lucretia cycle isn’t really a top 3 team in this debuff

[lilac bobcat]

Like it's the third of fourth time

[restive goblet]

I think even raku is better than Lucretia cycle here

Lucretia cycle with alna is ok

[lilac bobcat]

Lucretia cycle is gonna get you 10% wr in t100

[dusk tundra]

Okay I don't know the ins and outs of TS debuffs. Sue me

[lilac bobcat]

Grez alna is better in this cycle

[dusk tundra]

Can you help me build some teams? I'll try to write it down for the next debuff

[restive goblet]

For five teams you can do ainz / Gb / thane / Brutus / raku LDV

[dusk tundra]

So Lucretia cycle is not even relevant until later on then

[lilac bobcat]

Lucretia is team 5 or 6

[acoustic tinsel]

Hellou ✌🏾

I would need some hints on remaking my 3,6 and 7 team. The heroes arent invested so it . But I am sure that I can remake it better.

Open to any and all sudgestions 🙂

If I would take rowan and give to scarlet it would be good. Hylos into 7. But than i am left with eather 5 pull luc or all hyp luc. Got really low winrate with it. That way both teams would get +30winrate. (One of ideas)

[dusk tundra]

Not sure but maybe dims, alna/grez, Lucy/cycle, Raku/LDV, Scarlet burst, Thoran stall comp and for the last comp maybe swap Grezhul out for a graveborn comp and put Eorin in Alna

[acoustic tinsel]

Sadly thoran is not invested. I am on it now 🙂

What comes in Rakku/LDV team?

[acoustic tinsel]

And for the luc cycle i need rowan.

What would be good for scarlet burst?

[dusk tundra]

Probably Astar, Zolrath, Lorsan, LDV, Raku since you want the Lyca for Scarlet burst.

Burst not so good on this round but it's the best ya got I think

[acoustic tinsel]

Ok thanks! ❤️❤️❤️

[dusk tundra]

Like this @acoustic tinsel

[frozen crest]

slots filled usually zol astar alene joa nevanthi kren lorsan anasta and whatnot

debuff dependent and play around your heroes

[acoustic tinsel]

Mutch appreciation!! 🙏🙏🥰

[trail swift]

can anyone not-awakened sub alna in alna gb so i can use alna in luc cycle

[dusk tundra]

You can do 5-pull or try Thoran anyway. Flora, Talene, Theowyn, Thoran and Kelthur iirc

[trail swift]

i have a 303e30 daimon

[dusk tundra]

Alna is the comp, removing her would make it just GBs lol

[frozen crest]

imagine

[trail swift]

yeh ik i just saw someone post one where they put alna with luc cycle.. but they had abrutus replace alna in "alna" gb

[frozen crest]

daimon is nice

his ult just steals a lot of health immediately

[trail swift]

my daimon feels bad not being used for something nice since i overinvested him

[dusk tundra]

What, does that work?

[trail swift]

lol idk but #treasure-scramble message

[frozen crest]

it makes luc cycle perform A LOT better

dont exactly know why

but if it works it works

for the first and second time this debuff came*

[dusk tundra]

I wasn't planning on using lucy cycle until 5+ teams. Guess I'll try it out then

Unless Alna cycle is better than some other teams I have rn

[dusk tundra]

Oh so it's debuff specific I wonder if it's worth it tho

[frozen crest]

for people who have limited amount of heroes yeah it's worth

others just run scar cycle instead

[dusk tundra]

I don't run cycle tho should I?

Someone said raku was better

[frozen crest]

should be better yeah

but who knows

[acoustic tinsel]

it all depends on in what heroes is invested 😄

[lilac bobcat]

[restive goblet]

[frozen crest]

F

[dusk tundra]

SI20 Ferael moment

[lilac bobcat]

[gaunt marten]

Oh nice

Hythloooo at 2nd

[frozen crest]

just noticed that there's region 42

perfect time for a kraken to open up a new acc

[gilded salmon]

chill that's my region

[gaunt marten]

Oh god

Day 1 is insane

Where the fuck did hythlo go

[shut vessel]

Get that top 50 this time

[gaunt marten]

So mad about being 45 then the last round dropping to 51

Like bro

I like ice season

It's my fav

I feel bad for this emaciated sad trez on this team I just bulldozed no engravings 20si

3f

Trez abuse

@proven hearth get trez'd

[trail swift]

what does trez need to be anti-ainz?

anti-ainzwithoutainz

[gaunt marten]

Trez is anti-hythlo

[sacred notch]

Don't invest into trez

[gaunt marten]

I'm bout to give hythlo nightmares about trez

[gaunt marten]

He's expensive don't look at him

309e60

[trail swift]

oof

[gaunt marten]

Lots of counters to ainz anyways

But he's a good unit

Just either older accounts have him built when he was new meta or whale accounts or gb simp accounts

Otherwise don't touch him

Unless you want to join me in harassing hythlo with him

[dusk tundra]

Bruh

How is wutus so low

[gaunt marten]

Do you not know how ice works

[dusk tundra]

Cold

[gaunt marten]

JHDKSHCISHD

Yes

Cold.

There are no shields

So abrutus doesn't do as well

[dusk tundra]

So wutus is dogshit?

[gaunt marten]

He struggles in this season

Abaden is op

[dusk tundra]

Wonderful

[gaunt marten]

Athane does what athane usually does

[restive goblet]

Wutus is still good at 5 and 7 teams but not in ainz

[gaunt marten]

Yeah its normal to see 40-60% wr for abrutus in this season

Even lower if high rank the wr can get weird

[sacred notch]

#treasure-scramble message

He can do very well in ice

That's post merge

[gaunt marten]

That's good

[sacred notch]

Tbh I don't remember if that winrate was because or brutus or not

But ye

[gaunt marten]

Very good for abrutus in ice

[spiral sinew]

How the changing of formation work? I made changes, but old one still fighting..

[gaunt marten]

Cruke is doing really good despite no shields

Probably the energy reduction during already energy debuff

[gaunt marten]

Check where it says heros scrambling in x hours you have to change before that

[spiral sinew]

7h..

Ok I see

Thsnkd

[gaunt marten]

For me rounds start 5 am and then 5 pm

So you have to change before then or it locks in

[wide wasp]

@storm moth rank 76

[lapis moth]

@misty epoch slacking in gb tower

[misty epoch]

I am too lazy to push 2 teams

Just overlevel

[lapis moth]

[trail swift]

what was layout for scarlet burst again

is dis rite

[frozen crest]

yes

[lapis moth]

[frozen crest]

but dont run that in 4 teams

[trail swift]

mishka 1f away

it’s in my 3 team lol

[frozen crest]

dont

[trail swift]

idk what i could run instead cept lucy team of some sort

[frozen crest]

scarlet team is absolute shite as 3rd

[frozen crest]

weird ah luc cycle got me decent wr at 3 teams last round

idk how idk why, might not work this round

im just gonna continue experimenting

hurts to not have athane

[lapis moth]

soon merlin

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/441477431501783062/1033698802382675998/Run.gif

[trail swift]

you mean in general or this debuff? that team did great for me last ts, 2nd team in win rate after alna gb. but i lack a lot of pvp stuff so not surprising

[frozen crest]

this debuff

last ts as in last debuff or last blizzard

[trail swift]

last ts as in last week :q was it the same debuff?

i thought it changes every week idk

[frozen crest]

not same debuff

they change every 2 weeks

3 different debuffs

[carmine shale]

Abrutus finished bois

[frozen crest]

nice

time to fund me

[restive goblet]

[clever creek]

Tf

[lapis moth]

[frozen crest]

3%

[hushed prawn]

Abrutus is op af

[frozen crest]

frfr

[carmine shale]

Rank 88 with 86% wr here, guess that extra 4% really takes you places huh

[storm moth]

get top 100 at 5 teams

1%

[frozen crest]

66%

odd that it's so low

[gaunt marten]

Round 1 is insane fr

Doing the most stacked bullshit teams rn

[twilit gulch]

Just stack all your teams every round

And it's ez top 10

[gaunt marten]

I'm biting you

[granite mason]

bear top 10?

[twilit gulch]

[gaunt marten]

Ice is fun bc I get to do weird shit

Which I do anyways

[twilit gulch]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-no-nonono-noooo-cat-no-gif-25423213

[gaunt marten]

But bear I thought teams are stacked af

[granite mason]

show leaderboard

[onyx ridge]

Top 45 rn

[granite mason]

hmm

[twilit gulch]

Ice round has generally been the hardest for me

[frozen crest]

it's hardest for everyone

[twilit gulch]

But I like this debuff the most

[frozen crest]

but some mfs climb in ranks, god knows how

[frozen crest]

what

why

[twilit gulch]

Its interesting

Pope prob gonna be broken in this debuff

[lapis moth]

[gaunt marten]

It's not hard if you have abaden

I'm trying pope w athane

Gonna do that vei gb thing I think robo was doing

[trail swift]

10% with 71% win rate...usually doing better but w/e just 2 teams

[gaunt marten]

First round is always weird

[steady hill]

rank 4 region 9

[wide wasp]

I was just asking ur wr etc no need to be toxic

[storm moth]

me no toxic wtf

[lapis moth]

smoku big bully

[wide wasp]

^

[opal bone]

Mfker use Grez, he good this buff.

[onyx ridge]

@steady hill my tarnos is M+ si30, do you think he could work?

[opal bone]

50th

[steady hill]

i dont know its 1st day so try it

no one cares on day 1

day 1 is more like testing phase

[polar dune]

how many e60s that account got

[opal bone]

Guesstimate is 48

[steady hill]

close

49

[frozen crest]

64

[steady hill]

and theres cores for e60

[opal bone]

I keep being reminded how not having Aws in TS feels so bad.

[frozen crest]

but u have aw hero

[opal bone]

Not on Mingles

[frozen crest]

isnt alene A

[polar dune]

damn quite a lot

what about e80s

[opal bone]

No

[frozen crest]

oh

[opal bone]

[steady hill]

11

[opal bone]

That's Asta

[polar dune]

oof thats double hythlo

[steady hill]

pretty stacked ngl

[frozen crest]

what vip is that acct?

[steady hill]

17

[frozen crest]

damn

[steady hill]

fr

thats more than my life worth

[frozen crest]

same lmao

[lapis moth]

[steady hill]

but this account f2p now so hodl

[lapis moth]

almost bear level of kraken

[frozen crest]

true

[steady hill]

4 maxed trees too

[frozen crest]

the only person who can whale as hard as bear is madao

[lapis moth]

[opal bone]

@frozen crest Are you running scuffed Wutus for 3rd team?

[frozen crest]

i might try that yes

i will also try luc alna cycle again with wutus in gbs

nothing more fun than experimenting in the worst debuff

[polar dune]

4 maxed tree is where the money shot is

[steady hill]

yea the feeling of having a maxed tree is game changing moment

this acc has like less than 30 levels to 5 maxed

[frozen crest]

do u still play your past 2 accounts

[steady hill]

i ditched my first, then the second has someone managing it

[opal bone]

I could never betray my first born account.

[frozen crest]

i see

[steady hill]

well i did refund some of it so worth

[opal bone]

@gaunt marten

Abaden a bit camera shy though.

[frozen crest]

oh wow

is there like a time period before u are unable to refund a purchase

[steady hill]

90 days

[frozen crest]

owh

[steady hill]

or the item u spent isnt diamonds

like if u bought yen

that cant be refunded

[frozen crest]

thats unfortunate

[opal bone]

Oh we have region 42 now?

Any region 42 babies around?

[granite mason]

@indigo quail r42

well r41 and r42 lots of whales

[polar dune]

r42 baby here

[granite mason]

[lapis moth]

man is everywhere

do you have accounts in all regions

[polar dune]

like 60-70%

[lapis moth]

damn

[lilac bobcat]

Bolts isn't flaw

[lapis moth]

I see

[opal bone]

Nice, excited to use my Respen.

[frozen crest]

nooo she counters eorin

[obtuse mauve]

Seraphic tide 🤔

[frozen crest]

u didnt hear? dual divinity's name was changed

to avoid confusion, they also renamed seraphic tide to dual divinity

[obtuse mauve]

What else is copy-paste leftover in that guide, i wonder?

[lilac bobcat]

Huh respen

Seraphic tide

[trail swift]

[proven hearth]

Yeah, forgot to update teams lol. Wutus bad

[trail swift]

what you guys think is better for ainz comp, L mortas or 200 yenn?

[lilac bobcat]

Yen

[trail swift]

what about if mortas were m20? :

although by then yenn will probably be 203, soo

[opal bone]

I run both

[trail swift]

no merlin or something? or awakened

[opal bone]

Merlin front

[trail swift]

who are you removing from teh standard ainz/joa/albedo to fit them? 😮

[opal bone]

Joan

But I have high investment Yen so maybe it won't be as good for you to do that

[trail swift]

yee

[lapis moth]

fat yen always good

but poverty yen still does a good job

[trail swift]

is her 3f all that meaningful? just seemslike a range boost, haven't read her skills that closely tho

[obtuse mauve]

It is good if you have E30. More range means more targets, so more damage per e30

[opal bone]

3F is required

[granite mason]

mulan op pls nerf

[civic badger]

@granite mason where do you use her i tried using her with alna grez and she dies quick

[granite mason]

this buff isnt good for her, she's better in burst

[civic badger]

are there any burst comps for campaign

[granite mason]

yes if ur deficit is 0

[civic badger]

my deficit is currently 260+

[lapis moth]

he was trolling sir

[granite mason]

then no

[civic badger]

Is mulan's engraving required, i have ppl asking

[granite mason]

campain is either cheese or cc or ur team has so much healing/dodge

[lapis moth]

just tell them the usual answer

she came out two days ago and still being tested

[obtuse mauve]

Fk.. i chose the same path as our heaviest kraken

[civic badger]

@obtuse mauve ?

[gaunt marten]

[gaunt marten]

LMAO he's nervous

[obtuse mauve]

I'm facing the heaviest kraken of r37 already in ts. It means i chose the same path as them this time. More guaranteed losses

[gaunt marten]

I think the whales all picked green this time

I'm bumping into everyone

[twilit gulch]

I just pick blue every time

[gaunt marten]

I usually pick green I went blue last season

It seemed about the same

[gilded salmon]

I picked a random one cause idk what I'm doing 😎

[gaunt marten]

You're so early it does t really matter if you pick the same path as the whales cause they'll outpace you in a day

[gilded salmon]

yeah I know that's why I didn't really care about it yet, top 80% though I'm gaming

[gaunt marten]

I'm still above hythlo

Rank 5

At least I'm not fighting the sad baby accounts now

Si20 e0 trez haunting me

[storm moth]

flaw said e68 but thats still a bit early imo

[gaunt marten]

Yeah I'm picking away at her rn I'm not rushing anything but her furn

203e30 rn

[storm moth]

all i know it that her 9f is good

[restive goblet]

is she in anything besides pvp yet?

[storm moth]

she could be used in pve as a early cc and a dodge tank imo

[restive goblet]

Also how high priority is Albedo e60 if you’re making pvp investments?

[gaunt marten]

Ppl on test using her in endgame campaign I believe

Tbh I don't put e60 on dims very high priority

[proven hearth]

I always pick green. Every time

[gaunt marten]

Whale

I'm biting you

[proven hearth]

Much better. Also, gross, Nyan

[gaunt marten]

Kissing you

Fat asolise

Fear

Lolol that sparkly abrutus dims

I think my abaden slapped them earlier

Sonja went fucking wild

The fuck

[lapis moth]

[misty epoch]

[gaunt marten]

I saw that loss and was like okay probably the shiny thane got me but then

Cruke still op without shield tho