treasure-scramble

[quartz salmon]

When you get dismal maze find a team and do that

Sell Arthur finish joan next round then

Are you not buying LDV ?

[storm moth]

NO

[quartz salmon]

Nooooo

[storm moth]

dims first

[quartz salmon]

LDV > Merlin

Then zol or Ezizh

@lapis moth would you get zol or Ezizh from chall?

Just imagine you don’t have him

Or both maybe I forgot

[storm moth]

zol

[lapis moth]

try rowan+rosa instead of mishka+lyca with scarlet, luc 5p in team 6, mish+wolise+astar+raku+lyca for team 5

[storm moth]

and sg when M

[quartz salmon]

Sg M to 1* ?

[storm moth]

yeah

[quartz salmon]

I though sg zol was troll

[lapis moth]

what smoku said sir

[storm moth]

before haelus it is

[quartz salmon]

Yeah that I know

Ok cool

Thanks

[lapis moth]

o gift code up

[quartz salmon]

LDV slaps

[crystal cloud]

i will try thanks, any suggestions for team7 then?

[crystal cloud]

and what to do with the cycle team? if i remove luc from cycle there is a complete team left :/

[lapis moth]

Scarlet works well with Rowan and Rosa so I believe the win rate will not change much

5p works better than cycle for some of us and it frees up Rowan for another team

[lilac bobcat]

Where will you slot rowan

Other than cycle

[lapis moth]

with scarlet in his case

[lilac bobcat]

Why there's mortas

How do you think that mortal will ult

[lapis moth]

it works really well in newer regions since mostly 1 ult is needed to end the match

[lilac bobcat]

Or why

[lapis moth]

I didn't suggest mortas

[lilac bobcat]

Well scarlet just need to ult once or twice

Tf mortas is there

[crystal cloud]

ok and what to do with team3? luc cycle has 54>% wr and you havent wrote any replacement

[lapis moth]

5p should get similar win rate while also freeing Rowan and wolise for other teams

[crystal cloud]

ok but you said 5p for team6, so whats for the empty team3 then :D?

[lapis moth]

difficult without athane team or mauler invade so either go random bs for last 2 teams or you can try mauler invade taking wutus from gbs

But from my experience it makes things worse if your maulers aren't properly invested yet

[crystal cloud]

yes and wutus gbs has average >95% winrate

i will try your suggestions and report what happens next round ^^

[lapis moth]

Grez drops it to like 40-50% for me so not worth using a weak 20-30% mauler team for that

Good luck

[crystal cloud]

thanks ye. any tip for 5p team? rowan and lyca are out so currently my team is chicken+???+lorsan+eironn+luc

[lapis moth]

E Brutus and safiya seem to work well. Didn't get a chance to test other things too much.

[crystal cloud]

ok you think thas working ? A Chicken, E+ brutus, e+ Safiya, A Eironn, and luc?

[lapis moth]

Yes, works for a few of us

[civic sage]

Seems kind of whale

[crystal cloud]

ok i would try thoran, hodg, desira, athane L and twins for t6? just try to assemble left heroes :/ or should i slot in grez for hodg ?

[crystal cloud]

This two last team's ok? Jus tried to assemble my last a heroes :/ still have nev a or Erin m+ but without investments left.

[opal bone]

Which means it fits you like a glove.

[steady hill]

palmer op

[lapis moth]

I'd try thoran, grez, daimon, desira, atalene for t6
hodge, anasta, athane, haelus, skreg for 7 maybe

you could also try to fit in geralt and mortas somewhere maybe not sure how much a difference it would make

[storm moth]

@quartz salmon wr on your ldv?

[crystal cloud]

ok thanks i will try. so dont use twins or kren anywhere? geralt cannot be used, since hes bound to eironn caus of historical reasons 😄

[lapis moth]

ah no big deal than

[quartz salmon]

30%, not doing great

Anasta 209 would be good in this team

[storm moth]

ogey im not gonna change anything there then

yeah im 3f from 9f

[lapis moth]

yeah probably don't use them, both are not great in this debuff

[quartz salmon]

Im at 0f

[storm moth]

im at 3

with 3 cards

[quartz salmon]

Ah

I could card Anasta

[storm moth]

show bs for team 7

[storm moth]

do it

[quartz salmon]

Idk

E60 kinda important and I have a shit ton to do first

[storm moth]

9f is important too bruh

[lapis moth]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/441477431501783062/1033698802382675998/Run.gif

[storm moth]

[quartz salmon]

Yeah but idk how she does only with 209

Im doing kinda the same tbh for t7

Thoran 2lene

[quartz salmon]

In any case I need 4f, I’m at 5 cards

[lapis moth]

I used 6 cards on her

[quartz salmon]

Bruuh

That’s a lot lol

You have engraving on her?

[lapis moth]

not yet but she's doing decent

will do her after eironn e18

[storm moth]

this gonna work trust

firefly how did you get 41% in cr

smh he left

[quartz salmon]

209e0 and she does fine?

[storm moth]

309 probably

[quartz salmon]

Yeah probably

I can 30 her

[lapis moth]

she 309 but worked at 009 too

[quartz salmon]

She’s my next +30 to do anyway

Aight i need to go

[dusk tundra]

I’m doing it

[lapis moth]

you too old for this sir

[dusk tundra]

There’s no good 6 or 7 team

Sixth team really messing me up

[sturdy elbow]

Tagging was probably sketchy. Baden merc, Brutus rounds carried hard, Palmer in R6 boosted the score. The other rounds were so-so.

[storm moth]

firefly big whel

[sturdy elbow]

[storm moth]

i think i should start building for cr soon

[opal bone]

Gazing Zol will come in handy for CR.

[storm moth]

again

didnt ask

[lapis moth]

[dusk tundra]

Gazing Zol will come in handy for CR.

[storm moth]

[sacred notch]

If I'm not mistaken. Zol has been pretty much phased out of cr....

[polar dune]

Gazing Zol will come in handy for CR.

[storm moth]

[civic sage]

Gazing Zol will come in handy for CR

[storm moth]

[lapis moth]

zol no gud for cr sir

[gaunt marten]

Gazing zol will come in handy for cr

I'm back up to rank 40 so I will survive now

[quartz salmon]

Im still struggling to get t50 again

But luc 5p will change that I know it

[dreamy relic]

Need teams for ts, 1st formation I did Ainz comp what's next

[quartz salmon]

Copium, scroll up and copy teams

[dreamy relic]

Scroll up to where

[quartz salmon]

In this channel

Look older messages

Couple of us posted teams + win rates earlier today

You can just copy our teams

[dreamy relic]

I can't copy them

[opal bone]

Swap Mortas with Albedo

[dreamy relic]

Oh yea I did that

[quartz salmon]

You probably don’t have every hero we have but you can copy the general stuff, like Alna GBs / Scarlet burst / 5p luc (sucks) / dims etc

[civic sage]

This is pretty similar to what most do (Alna for Wutus)

Most beginner comps are pretty similar just less investment

Haelus replaced for Skreg/Desira

[quartz salmon]

Haelus

[civic sage]

Nevanthi for Raine

[quartz salmon]

Ah

[civic sage]

Anasta/2lene you won’t have but available flex units are usually fine

[quartz salmon]

And Anasta talene subs are trash

[quartz salmon]

I didn’t manage to get more than 40% with that team, tried different stuff

[civic sage]

2lene is actually pretty mediocre this debuff so I’m wondering why mine is so high compared to everyone else’s

[quartz salmon]

Yeah kinda weird

[gaunt marten]

Probably the astar dmg

[quartz salmon]

Maybe just Anasta carries hard idk

[gaunt marten]

Who knows

[quartz salmon]

I have astar 309e3x where my 70% at

[gaunt marten]

Anasta sexy

[quartz salmon]

Gib

[gaunt marten]

Astar e60 when

Anasta e60 when

[civic sage]

Mine at 80% rn and I swapped Nevanthi for Astar

[quartz salmon]

@civic sage answer gabe

[dreamy relic]

Uhh

[civic sage]

Never

[quartz salmon]

But Anasta deserves

[lapis moth]

this guy got waden ascended on both accounts

[civic sage]

I’m going to do Anasta e60 after Wutus e60 but that’s probably going to take over 2 months

[quartz salmon]

Yup lol

Can you show your e60s ?

[opal bone]

Do you never take cores from anywhere?

[gaunt marten]

I'm bout to do that on my alt too

[quartz salmon]

Not sure who to do next, I need to save for haelus but I won’t get him 1* for like 5 months sooo

[civic sage]

From most places

e60s aren’t make or break so it doesn’t matter

[gaunt marten]

I'm messing with ya

[civic sage]

For most heroes

[opal bone]

Neither are SI30s

[quartz salmon]

[opal bone]

Since they'll be for mediocre heroes

Unless you're whale and building good heroes consistently.

[civic sage]

They are

[gaunt marten]

Just 309e60 everything

[quartz salmon]

Fine

[gaunt marten]

Shiny your trez

[quartz salmon]

Oden e60 gud or weste ?

[opal bone]

Very good

[dreamy relic]

Like this?

[civic sage]

Luc/Grezhul/Scar/Oden/Mishka/Haelus

[gaunt marten]

You should e60 him

[quartz salmon]

Aight he could be next then

[civic sage]

Grez is mistake

[lapis moth]

when is a good time to e60 grez sir

[quartz salmon]

Yeah I’m not doing him

[gaunt marten]

Mean 2 grez

[quartz salmon]

Any time soon

[civic sage]

Main purpose is for Kane

[gaunt marten]

Get Titus out of their

[lapis moth]

what about e66

[gaunt marten]

And into trash

[quartz salmon]

Lol

[civic sage]

But with low fort tree Scar still overpowers him

[lapis moth]

for cr and shit

[dreamy relic]

Replace with?

[civic sage]

You only want to go ATK tbh

He isn’t main dmg dealer most of the time

[lapis moth]

I see

[civic sage]

300 cores for 0.5 haste isn’t that great

Nodes past e60 are quite overpriced in general though

[civic sage]

You have Alna?

[dreamy relic]

Almost ascended

[gaunt marten]

Literally anything else i see Sonja there idfk how well she does at 000 though

[lapis moth]

alright I'll hold him for now

[gaunt marten]

Oh alna there

[civic sage]

Probably run Luc5p instead of cycle with that investment

[dreamy relic]

[gaunt marten]

I didn't see alna

[dreamy relic]

Can you call out the formation for Luc5p and what formation to put it in

[civic sage]

Luc/Skriath/Eirron + 2 units

[dreamy relic]

What is a 'unit', anything?

And what formation to put that instead of?

[civic sage]

Yes

Use that instead of cycle

[dreamy relic]

What is cycle 😭

[gaunt marten]

Cycle is what you're doing w Lucy rn

[civic sage]

Twins/Rowan/Ezizh + 2

[gaunt marten]

Minus whatever Titus is there for

[civic sage]

Is what cycle is usually determined as

[gaunt marten]

Yes what Asta said

Cycle is always twins rowan ez and then dps

Can be Lucy can be solise scarlet ect just the point of cycle is to get them ramped up

Cycle is shit in this buff especially

[dreamy relic]

Yep?

[dreamy relic]

Idk i used to think he was good as support

[civic sage]

Use Brutus

[gaunt marten]

For 5 pull you- yeah

[storm moth]

im starting to think that arthur wasnt a good idea

[gaunt marten]

Lol asta is faster

Phone pla

[dreamy relic]

Right, I thought it didn't matter tho

[gaunt marten]

Oh no arthur

It does matter

[dreamy relic]

What?

[civic sage]

^

[dreamy relic]

Okay

[civic sage]

When I refer to a comp + a certain number of additional units

[storm moth]

how to replace arthur

[civic sage]

What I mean is that the prior heroes are core to that comp and rest aren’t integral to the comp but can improve the comp’s effectiveness

[gaunt marten]

5 pull you use those heros to group the enemies together then your other units pound on them

[civic sage]

What do you have to replace him with

[dreamy relic]

I was gonna ask why it's called 5 pull, that makes sense ty

[gaunt marten]

5 pull because you're trying to get all 5 enemy heros all grouped together and ccd

[dreamy relic]

Yes yes

[storm moth]

idk eorin/chicken/brutus/thoran/eironn

[civic sage]

Brutus could be better

[dreamy relic]

This good yes?

[gaunt marten]

So queen eironn chicken cruke brutus Lucy ect

[storm moth]

what about L+ uwutus

[gaunt marten]

Lmao

[civic sage]

Replace Oku ideally

[dreamy relic]

With?

[civic sage]

You don’t want to use E+ units in PvP generally

[civic sage]

Have you posted your box?

[civic sage]

[storm moth]

okay normal brutus it is

[gaunt marten]

Poor smoku

[civic sage]

When I was this lost for units there were no Awakened heroes so idek anymore

[storm moth]

i need to build my anasta

[dreamy relic]

Probably,

[civic sage]

Before the comps you used got me a 60% when only wokes were Ezizh and 2lene

[civic sage]

Safiya is an alright option

[dreamy relic]

Uh huh, instead of Oku?

[civic sage]

You would want to place her and Luc backline though

[civic sage]

Yes

[dreamy relic]

Alright lemme try that

[storm moth]

e30 ldv does stuff?

[civic sage]

Try it

[storm moth]

tommorow

[civic sage]

Should be solid for this TS though

[storm moth]

i need 50 shards

[civic sage]

Maybe you will get higher than 20% after that

[storm moth]

it was 30% last time smh

also lucy random bs op

[viscid girder]

fk im gonna stay at 14% lmao

[storm moth]

show teams

[viscid girder]

ok

LOL kren tream

[storm moth]

what region are you

[viscid girder]

R33

[storm moth]

ah

[viscid girder]

I am getting rekt here

[storm moth]

engrave mishka to e60

[opal bone]

Do you have M Atahen?

[viscid girder]

Nope i do not

[opal bone]

[dreamy relic]

Okay this?

[viscid girder]

This is my box if anyone got suggestions

[storm moth]

yen back mid for mortas, grez for lucy, 3rd team is fine ig, 4th something with ldv, kren and raku (ldv back mid), 5th and 6th not sure what to do

4th team prob some maulers stuff with uwutus and 5th something lucy

[viscid girder]

Hmm that seems smart

[civic sage]

Eirron always position 4 since it’s 5 pull

[dreamy relic]

Right okay

[storm moth]

yeah thats fine

[dreamy relic]

Finally

Now just 3 more to go

[viscid girder]

5 pull with lucretia works here ?

[dreamy relic]

What to do for other formations

[dreamy relic]

apparently

[gaunt marten]

If you have nothing better

[dreamy relic]

[viscid girder]

Hmm yea

[storm moth]

pretty bad

[gaunt marten]

Better than cycle

[viscid girder]

I think you should just go for 5 pull

not with lucretia ig

[dreamy relic]

This is 5 pull

Oh

[viscid girder]

Lucretia can be used in another team

[storm moth]

my bs with her is better than cycle and 5p

[dreamy relic]

Hmm

[viscid girder]

what % are you

[gaunt marten]

Probably cause they die and buff her

[storm moth]

1%

[sacred notch]

That's not 5p that's 3 pull because no skriath furn

[viscid girder]

Damn what region ?

[dreamy relic]

Me?

[sacred notch]

Yes

[dreamy relic]

Ah lmfao

[viscid girder]

HAHAHHAHA

[storm moth]

that and mortas ult

[storm moth]

38

[viscid girder]

makes sense

[dreamy relic]

I might not even have Skriath on wishlist will need to check

furn wishlist

[storm moth]

+hodge flag and some haste bs from twins

[dreamy relic]

My box ^
My furn wishlist:

Thoughts?

[viscid girder]

actually which awakened character do i go for next

I got wutus

I mean whale chara

[sacred notch]

Wolise

[viscid girder]

alright

[sacred notch]

Just save the cards and then decide at 500+

[sacred notch]

Eironn out for skriath 3f

[viscid girder]

yea i will do that

[gaunt marten]

Next awakened is belinda late next month could wait for that

[dreamy relic]

He's at 7/9 tho

[sacred notch]

Doesn't matter

[viscid girder]

how do you know

[dreamy relic]

Okay

[viscid girder]

I thought it would be a celestial

[gaunt marten]

Robo posted the event calendar shows belindas staff for the awakening event next month

[viscid girder]

Oh

[gaunt marten]

They're not even subtle anymore the dolly corner reads like they're talking to a 5 year old

[viscid girder]

So they are just awakening shitty characters instead of fixing them

nice

[gaunt marten]

That's kinda what the idea has been

[viscid girder]

Every mauler needs an awakened then

[gaunt marten]

Belinda

Teaser starts on the 14th but that's probably not the drop date

Just giving you options for either starting new awakened or holding

I'm sure she's gonna be busted

[storm moth]

fk it im not saving shit

uwutus too sexy

also she better be wu kong level of trash

[viscid girder]

Yep probably

[gaunt marten]

I think they learned from awezizh they won't make a trash mage awakened again

[craggy crown]

Trez & Poe

about that.. 😂

It apparently could get worse than 3% 🤣

[storm moth]

lmaoo

[craggy crown]

22 battles so far so might get a singular win here and there xD

[storm moth]

yeah that chicken and eironn investment too low

[craggy crown]

yee idk if it's going to be enough time for another round of stuff but I changed it again

To something just random that has decent-ish investments x)

Grez, Talene, Kren, Athalia all 309, and 209 queen

to hopefully maybe just bruteforce a fight now and then

[gaunt marten]

[misty epoch]

Forgot to take off Mishka's arti so she's getting Raine's buff instead of Scarlet

[opal bone]

Happened to me a few buffs ago.

But now my mage tree is higher.

[misty epoch]

I am lvling mage branch now too, hopefully it will fix the issue

[storm moth]

@quartz salmon ty for telling me to put joa back in dims lmao

80% wr now

also this is nice to look at

96% at 27 battles

[gaunt marten]

Pog

I'm 40 bout to hit 7 teams

[quartz salmon]

Yeah it’s so much Better, also ldv Raku wr doesn’t change much so it’s really worth

[storm moth]

also my ldv raku should go up in wr tommorow

im gonna e30 ldv

[twilit gulch]

Just hit 7 teams

Getting destroyed

[opal bone]

https://tenor.com/view/land-orcas-gif-18505636

You've swam too far, little whale.

[restive goblet]

nature is healing

[dreamy relic]

yo @civic sage you still on?

[civic sage]

Yeah

[dreamy relic]

my bad I had to do some stuff earlier

so I need some help with the ts formations

[civic sage]

What you have done so far?

[dreamy relic]

oh no looks like nothing, I forgot to save the first 3 💀

I'll do them again quickly one sec

So far, Ainz comp, some GB comp and Luc 5p

[trail swift]

how to make q5p not suck without lucy

[granite mason]

Add lucy

Or dont run q5p

[trail swift]

by team 5 im making shit up anyway so i figured id try something kinda synergetic

lel

my random bullshit team doing better

[dreamy relic]

@civic sage there

[trail swift]

rosa made it worse from what i had before but i forgot who i had before changing to rosa:(

[civic sage]

Then you want LDV Raku/Scar Burst

Scar Burst = Mishka Estrilda Raine Scarlet Lyca

You might want to sub out some of the units you haven't built yet

[trail swift]

scar burst is amazing even without 9f mishka yet

[dreamy relic]

for formation 4?

[granite mason]

because if you use 5p without luc then ur team will be killed in a few secs

[civic sage]

Yeah

[dreamy relic]

so scar burst or ldv raku which one

[civic sage]

Both

you are at 6 teams no?

[dreamy relic]

oh right okay lets go in order

ldv raku who else in that formation

[civic sage]

order is irrelevant in TS

[trail swift]

yeh i usually use lucy but wanted to try delaying my bullshit-team start point by using lucy cycle+q5p instead but it’s kinda a fail

[dreamy relic]

ah great I cant use raku, linked to some dimensional

[trail swift]

it’s 100dia to unbind

[civic sage]

LDV Raku can be followed by heroes such as Raku/2lene/Lorsan/Kren/Filler tanks

[dreamy relic]

yeah but merlin is linked to him

so merlin's gonna be weaker if I unbind

[trail swift]

meh merlin has cheat death and doesn’t need stars just 309

i kinda hate the dim binding crap tho

i guess they need some downside for being so easy to ascend. keys could come a little sooner tho with how many dims they’re adding

[civic sage]

Astar?

[trail swift]

don’t have 🥹

mighta been hodge

i swapped to brutus to maybe get a dps stuck on him long enough for queen to activate stun thing

[civic sage]

Possibly 🤔

[dreamy relic]

oh really okay

I'll trust you on that one then

wait I have a dim key

[dreamy relic]

alright

what is 2lene

I know it's Talene but why 2lene

[civic sage]

Because there is awk and non-awk talene

[dreamy relic]

What is 2lene?

[civic sage]

1lene = Normal Talene
2lene = Awakened Talene

[dreamy relic]

thank you

[civic sage]

just a short-form for either one

[dreamy relic]

number 4

for formation 5 scar burst, my esthrilda is E+ so...

[civic sage]

LDV pos 4

[quartz salmon]

Do something like 2lene Daimon front Raku LDV Kren maybe

Or stick with Lucius and keep Daimon for t7

[dreamy relic]

swap alright

[dreamy relic]

I only have 6

[quartz salmon]

Yes t6 mb

You’ll do budget scarlet burst t5 and random bs t6 ig

[dreamy relic]

Well this is 5

[quartz salmon]

That Saurus

[dreamy relic]

yes 🙌

[sacred notch]

Tbh that comp ain't gonna win anything with that investment

[dreamy relic]

what investment

[quartz salmon]

Yeah Estrilda Raine e

[sacred notch]

Or more lack of investment

[dreamy relic]

bruh

[quartz salmon]

No furn on scar aswell

[sacred notch]

No furn on anyone

[quartz salmon]

Yeah actually lol

[dusk tundra]

5 pull not too bad

Still top 50 😅

[dreamy relic]

I mean what would you suggest then lol

I asked people if I was lacking investment in any heroes when buying the 45k gem pack and they all said "no no doesn't matter go for Alna 🤓"

[sacred notch]

You are lacking investment in heroes but 45k dia ain't changing anything regarding investment

[dreamy relic]

I mean I could have ascended even one of those that I was missing

[sacred notch]

Ascending is irrelevant if you don't have si furn or engrsving

[dreamy relic]

right

I didn't really do furniture up until now

engraving yes I'm doing that but I need resources lol

[gaunt marten]

Buying noble houses would help

New years event coming up, should get some good resources from that

[sacred notch]

Also temporal rift is up, push that

[gaunt marten]

^^^^^

[carmine shale]

I wouldn't be surprised if gold isle comes back soon during the dim exchange

[sacred notch]

Single dim exchanges are so free either way

[dreamy relic]

noble houses?

[storm moth]

3 teams under 50%

whane lost only 4 times

[opal bone]

e60 Yen for 90%+ wr

[storm moth]

70% good enough

[storm moth]

i wish i could use full 7 teams

[misty epoch]

My cycle is scuffed lmao so count it as 6

[storm moth]

im gonna try cycle too

didnt use it in a while

maybe it got better

and i can finally use raine in scarlet

because scarlet higher power than mishka

[restive goblet]

.

[misty epoch]

You could just take off Mishka's arti

[storm moth]

yeah i did that

and e60 on scarlet now

ldv can wait

[opal bone]

Massive skill issue

[misty epoch]

Yea, LDV e30 is fine

[storm moth]

idk if hes gonna be able to cycle ults tho

[restive goblet]

yeah it got 80% before moving divisions

[storm moth]

and i need him to do that for this stage

[misty epoch]

In campaign? Should be able to I think

As long as he has 5* call

[storm moth]

yeah i do

i wouldnt push if i didnt

[misty epoch]

Fair enough

What stage now?

[static bone]

Not to bad

[storm moth]

40-8

im just waiting for better ldv

[misty epoch]

You can run q5p with Mishka Raku

[storm moth]

for that ldv round?

[misty epoch]

Yes, for r5

[storm moth]

oh

thats nice

i will find it in a sec

[twilit gulch]

[sacred notch]

Holy sheesh

[twilit gulch]

Rest of my teams suck tho

[opal bone]

People in Bear's region probably start using random bs go at 4 teams.

[misty epoch]

I bet lol

[gaunt marten]

Hot

[storm moth]

i think i can run ainz too

just need better rng

[misty epoch]

I feel like Ainz would be highest rng out of those 3 options

[storm moth]

idk i will run ainz for 10 min and look for q5p

[storm moth]

why scarlet pos 3

[gaunt marten]

Tumbling around in rank 40-46 like a sad little webkinz in a dryer

Where should I move her

[storm moth]

back mid

[gaunt marten]

I barely use scarlet in ts

Okay cool lemme fix that

[storm moth]

[misty epoch]

Great, now he can get 10% instead of 8% with Scarlet

[storm moth]

[gaunt marten]

I'm tryinf

[misty epoch]

Do you not have Atha?

[lapis moth]

[gaunt marten]

I do but not engraved

[misty epoch]

Should still be better than Ferael imo

309 Atha?

[lapis moth]

painful to see so many e60s with that wr

[gaunt marten]

It's cause I maxed my favs before spreading out

I'll catch up I'm not worried abt it I was .3% last season

[storm moth]

gabe i think you can get top 20 easy

if you play meta comps

[misty epoch]

Mortas looking hella poor among those 4 maxed/nearly maxed heroes

[gaunt marten]

I KNOW ITS SO FUNNY

He's having fun

[still heron]

Good luck

[storm moth]

i mean look at his heroes

[lapis moth]

[still heron]

I was top 20 twice so far

[misty epoch]

I would split Athane into his own team and run burst instead of that Scarlet team

[still heron]

Look at his region

[storm moth]

32

its not that bad

[still heron]

Its my Region

[storm moth]

yeah

i know

[still heron]

[storm moth]

[storm moth]

i cant

queen not on rc

and i have 0 dias

[misty epoch]

Lol

Not even 100 diamonds?

[storm moth]

[misty epoch]

That's... impressive

[storm moth]

ikr

[misty epoch]

To spend exact amount you have

Did you plan this or just by accident?

[storm moth]

i spend 900 daily rn

accident

[misty epoch]

Cool 😎

[storm moth]

i need to refresh guild store 2 times + tot card + normal store

[misty epoch]

Guild store? Why?

LDV gear?

[storm moth]

ldv gear duh

[misty epoch]

Waste of diamonds imo

[gaunt marten]

Nah I don't have a lot of core stuff for this- okay had to go get my door dash bc a small child was banging on my door concerned I didn't know it was there

[storm moth]

yeah it is

[gaunt marten]

I don't have a lot of stuff for burst

I whaled zol and uhhh couple other things just to do okay in this season

[gaunt marten]

No

[misty epoch]

Burst is Zolly Miskha LDV and flex units

[storm moth]

smh

[gaunt marten]

I didn't even have zol until like 3 days ago

[misty epoch]

Zaph/Audrae/Lorsan/Raku

[gaunt marten]

I have raku

See my problem

[lapis moth]

[gaunt marten]

[lapis moth]

you like living on the edge I see sir

[gaunt marten]

That's the saddest image

Thane and vei seem to be doing well enough I could probably put zol with scarlet miskha

Smoku can attest I didn't even have dims until about a week ago

[storm moth]

yeah i can

[storm moth]

bruh 3 high rng battles and 1 mid rng

[misty epoch]

[storm moth]

btw gear under t3 matters in ts?

[granite mason]

Gear always matters

[gaunt marten]

Yeah remember when time was using a naked lucy

And was getting like 8%

[storm moth]

lmaoo

so i need to fix gear after im done pushing smh

[gaunt marten]

Oh god

What can I do for a 7th team

That might win 1 time hopefully

[sacred notch]

Pay more money

[gaunt marten]

Sobbing

Into my champagne

[sacred notch]

https://tenor.com/view/gotcho-ass-got-you-gotcha-revenge-get-back-gif-16343108

[still heron]

Max Baden

[gaunt marten]

GOD DAMN IT I ALREADY HAD MAIN BULLY ME TO BUILD OG THANE

Blease

[storm moth]

bro i have too many t4s

[gaunt marten]

Whale

[storm moth]

how is this a problem smh

this shouldnt be a problem

[misty epoch]

Why is having too many T4s a problem?

[gaunt marten]

Literally you are the only one w that issue

Fr

[storm moth]

i cant swap t3s between heroes

[misty epoch]

[still heron]

Just give them to me

[gaunt marten]

I want some

[still heron]

Problem solved

[gaunt marten]

Please

[storm moth]

i have only 5 t4 chests sir

[still heron]

More then me

[storm moth]

smh

[gaunt marten]

Give

[dusk tundra]

Yeeeaahhh buddy

[opal bone]

@frozen crest What are you running for 7th team?

[dawn tinsel]

Random rant - I don’t like these details of the game where upgrading something can make it worse in some way… e.g. t4 swap, Thoran defense, some heroes assisting / boosting based on stats (e.g. Raine) vs manually choosing (e.g. Rosa)…

In an ideal world powering anything up should be a no regret operation.

[opal bone]

Not really, this ads nuance over just "hehe hero power go brr".

[dawn tinsel]

I guess that’s true…

[dusk tundra]

What do I replace Lucy cicle with?

[little cedar]

💀

[trail swift]

my mishka is 1f from finally getting 9f (209e60) will it be a decent pvp buff

[sacred notch]

It will be a huge everything buff

Instant ult which means instant cc at start of battle

[static bone]

Next e60? Im posting here because most of my goals going forward are more pvp oriented

Im currently working on athane so he will be 1st priority once im finished

My next e30s will prob be estrilda, yenn, ezio im thinking that order

[dusk tundra]

Astar Anasta and Zolroth good for e60

E30 plan sounds good

[static bone]

Sounds good. I think ill do astar then anasta

Thank you

[restive goblet]

Is Joan 60 any good? She’s used a lot too

[lilac bobcat]

Mission: Hold t50 spot

As long as I dont get reds. +4s to +8s are good

[restive goblet]

Lucy cycle is 0W - 10L

[polar dune]

PVP oriented as in?

[lapis moth]

can someone explain how do artifacts affect cbr in this mode? because the logs literally show them as having no artifacts

[restive goblet]

like for raine?

[lapis moth]

#treasure-scramble message

yeah I think what you mean is the same

[restive goblet]

That’s how it works in CR

If you take scarlet’s artifact off it can help grez get the buff against Kane CR. Raine targets based on their cbr in your box or something like that

not positive it works the same in TS but it might

[lapis moth]

that's interesting

I see, thanks

[solemn sage]

26th

[opal bone]

My disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined. Help.

[solemn sage]

I don't know how to make teams without my whale roster

I recommend liberal use of the "available formations" feature

[lapis moth]

won't it be better to use ezio with ainz and wolise in burst

[storm moth]

my 7th team got 0%

[opal bone]

Wolise in burst?

[storm moth]

why 7 teams so soon

[solemn sage]

Dim team is working so I wouldn't change it

[storm moth]

it was always for like last 20 battles

[solemn sage]

Not worth weakening good teams to improve trash teams

past 4-5 good teams

[lapis moth]

I see

[opal bone]

Yea I don't want to tinker with first 4, I already moved Estrilda/Astar from them.

[solemn sage]

7 teams comes sooner when you do better

since you hit 6000 points sooner

[opal bone]

@solemn sage Do I just move mishka and astar to LDV?

[lapis moth]

maybe rosa instead of astar or try scarlet cycle

[opal bone]

Scarlet cycle was getting 15% too.

[lapis moth]

[solemn sage]

yeah probably better to have one 50%+ burst team instead of two weak ones

not sure what best burst version is with your heroes though

zol mishka lyca LDV astar I guess

[opal bone]

I was using that and only getting 35% ish before.

But in 7 team it might do better.

Well actually it was Raku over Astar

[solemn sage]

astar should do better than raku, he's trash in pvp

[opal bone]

I'll try that then, and do cycle scarlet for same wr as current.

Team 7 still dead though.

[solemn sage]

Theoretically a 35% winrate team in 6 teams should become ~42% in 7 teams if it beats everyones trash 7th team

[storm moth]

im not doing better tho

[solemn sage]

random GBs go

[opal bone]

This?

[solemn sage]

should do better than 0%

[opal bone]

My Abaden is M 300

[solemn sage]

I don't think M works well in 7 teams

since free stats are gone

[quartz salmon]

@storm moth can you show Whane and t7 teams with wr please

[storm moth]

not too good

im gonna try this now

[quartz salmon]

Talene Thoran got me 6%, better than nothing

But my Whane team is at 75% 🗿

[storm moth]

oof

hendi 203?

[quartz salmon]

His E+ hehe

Raine is for scarlet burst

[storm moth]

yeah same for me now

[lapis moth]

hendrick needs 103 don't waste gold emblems sir

[storm moth]

smhge

[quartz salmon]

Thoran Talene superior

[storm moth]

smh

[quartz salmon]

Hehehee

[misty epoch]

Dropped to t51

So bad

[storm moth]

whel

[misty epoch]

Just a dolphin sir

[storm moth]

big whel

[misty epoch]

https://tenor.com/view/swimming-dolphins-moving-dolphins-dolphin-family-national-space-day-nat-geo-gif-21569643

[storm moth]

[misty epoch]

Me and my pals 🙂

[storm moth]

im gonna fuck up my scarlet comp by playing camp

[lilac bobcat]

I want blood

[opal bone]

Weird kink, but okay.

[gaunt marten]

Good kink

That built salaki wtf

[storm moth]

what salami even do

[still stone]

how am i gonna put 7 teams haha someone please help me. i guess i just put 2-3 decent teams and fill the rest with whatever?

(old account that i picked back up a week ago or so)

[lapis moth]

he does support sir

[lilac bobcat]

Calcs was right

[static bone]

Sorry was asleep but ts and legends. I know i cant compete with the top placments but i do regularly get to grouping stage and have won that once or twice so would like to be better there to

[storm moth]

how can food support wtf

prayge for top 100

🙏

new year gift from lilith

[lapis moth]

good luck sir

[storm moth]

im not gonna make it sir

[lapis moth]

you can if you believe sir, to quote someone who's been suspiciously quiet today

[opal bone]

That sounds like a Raku thing to say.

[storm moth]

@frozen crest where you at bish

[static bone]

So the last few ts ive been struggling with team 7

But i got my athane to mythic and he is actually getting me wins on team 7

Hype

[opal bone]

Goes to show how broken Athane is this buff.

[static bone]

Look at that team lol

[opal bone]

Which region is this?

[static bone]

36

[steady hill]

interesting i ranked up at 7 teams

[misty epoch]

Me too

79% wr atm

Hope it's not a fluke

[steady hill]

now you’ve said it will be true

[misty epoch]

[quartz salmon]

t100 might be hard to maintain

[storm moth]

did your t7 get a win already

[quartz salmon]

My t7 even got 4 wins

[storm moth]

wtf

mine got 0

[quartz salmon]

25% wr

[storm moth]

[quartz salmon]

I’m running talene Thoran it works quick well

Also have morrow on there

He works surprisingly well

[storm moth]

[lapis moth]

mine like 10%

[twilit gulch]

Mine is 0%

[storm moth]

same

[misty epoch]

My lowest wr 46% atm

15 battles

[quartz salmon]

Damn

[restive goblet]

What is going on lol

that team was like 80% last night

[twilit gulch]

Bad RNG

[molten sparrow]

What should I use for my 6th team?

[storm moth]

last round already started sir

you are too late

by 2h+

[molten sparrow]

I won't have another chance to participate?

[storm moth]

not in this debuff

[molten sparrow]

Meh, another 60% finish

[opal bone]

[molten sparrow]

I was hoping that because I actually had real formations that I would actually do better but, I didn't

There was no point in me even trying

I get the same % whether I try or not

[opal bone]

Maybe you have weak investment. Which region are you in?

[molten sparrow]

I didn't think so. Region 30

[molten sparrow]

You can see my investments. I don't think they're weak

[opal bone]

I have better investments and I'm region 38, so you're probably just very behind the average.

Assuming you took a break from the game or didn't play actively for a while.

[misty epoch]

Rng can be a bitch

[opal bone]

It's a new year miracle, might get t100. 99th at the moment.

[molten sparrow]

The issue is that you're p2w. I'm f2p. I also haven't been investing in ts. The issue is that the last three ts that I played, I actually started trying and still got 60%, the same score as when I wasn't trying

[quartz salmon]

Hold up this is last round?

[lapis moth]

[quartz salmon]

I’ve been to focused being dumb on 40-20-r5

[opal bone]

What I linked is a 3 year old account. I have another f2p acc in region 38.

Your investment should not get much better than 60%

[molten sparrow]

I don't know why I should try then if I don't have the right champions with the right investments

[haughty summit]

did you ever take a break?

[opal bone]

Nobody said you should, up to you.

But sadly it is what happens when you don't play daily.

You fall behind the curve.

[lapis moth]

restart in a new region

[obtuse mauve]

Win rate is not the whole picture. How high are you ranking?

[molten sparrow]

Yes

[molten sparrow]

Like I've been saying, 60%

[haughty summit]

how long?

[molten sparrow]

I don't know exactly

[obtuse mauve]

Is that your ranking? I though it was win rate, my bad. Yeah, that's a tough position

[molten sparrow]

I wish that would be my win rate. My win rate is 52%

[haughty summit]

unlucky, i quit for a year but im too lazy to make a new account so im just gonna try and catch up

[obtuse mauve]

Yeah, if you left for a while, any pvp will be a bitch, no way around it except whaling

[molten sparrow]

Yeah, that's always been the issue for me. I haven't been playing pvp for that reason

I'm only wanting to play ts because people have been saying that I'm hindering my account progression by not playing it. Right now where I currently am, it doesn't matter if I play it or not. I get the same rewards regardless

[obtuse mauve]

You are hindering progress in comparison with other players, which only matters for pvp, so...

[gaunt marten]

It's very hard to catch up with pvp without swiping

[dusk tundra]

I don't think starting over is the right choice. I had a month break or so but I'm almost top 100 (after merge) due to making correct choices (ascending PvP awakened). If you play slowly/take breaks it's fine as long as you make good choices

[haughty summit]

ive been thinking about it, but im also not aiming for too high anyways

[gaunt marten]

Beaming good luck to you directly into your phone

A month is a big fucking difference

A year you're in an old server with active people way ahead of you

[haughty summit]

pvp wise i think im missing zol athalia and the awakeneds

[gaunt marten]

Starting over in the newest server puts you in a bigger pool of people your same level, letting you get higher rank easier which is faster progression

[haughty summit]

i tried making an alt but i cant live without the qol stuff you get as you play

[gaunt marten]

Athalia not that relevant outside ice season

[haughty summit]

individually doing bounties suck so much

[gaunt marten]

It does yeah

Hold on let me scroll and see if you posted your box

I'd be top 20 if I spread my resources out but I just can't resist maxing my fav boys

Oh you haven't

[haughty summit]

lemme send

im also just aiming for top 10% so nothing high

i quit before engravings so im behind on all that

[dusk tundra]

What region is this?

[haughty summit]

25

even if i played consistently i dont think i wouldve been able to break top 100

[twilit gulch]

T100 would be hard

[haughty summit]

100th place has at least 3 awakened im pretty sure

[twilit gulch]

But 1-2% easily possible

[gaunt marten]

Fuuuuck that's an old region

Older than mine

[haughty summit]

yea

everyone from back then already quit

[gaunt marten]

You have so few heros

[haughty summit]

i have copies of all the old heroes and none of the new ones

[dusk tundra]

Okay I do understand why you'd want to restart. You're one region below me

In r26 AThane is honestly enough to get 1% in TS if that's all you care about

[gaunt marten]

Athane carry

[dusk tundra]

I had only Athane after merge and got 1%. Now I have A Brutus also and still only get 1%. Funny how that works

Tbh I would restart if you wanted to, but if you plan to take breaks again you won't compete without time gazers

[haughty summit]

next time i quit im just gonna wipe this game from my memory

[opal bone]

Everyone in r38 who is t100 has athane pretty much, so your region likely has 2+ Aw.

[dusk tundra]

Just in case you thought that was a typo, no I mean getting brutus actually didn't change anything for me post merge. Maybe I'm just bad at making teams

Before merge in r47 we didn't really have these kind of whales. I even hit top 50 a few times

[static bone]

Im r 36 and the top 100 all have baden, solise, brutus and athane

[opal bone]

I find that hard to believe.

[static bone]

Well i should rephrase that. Not everyone has all of those at once but every team i face to some extent has an awakaned in it

[opal bone]

I mean, yea, same for 38.

But 38 love their athanes

[static bone]

Yeah i just looked at my last 10 history and atleast 5 of every 7 teams has an awakened it in

And the ones that dont have e80s lol

I just scanned though the ranks 50 to 30 and i havent seen 1 person atleast that im following who doesnt have atleast 3 awakaned

[storm moth]

dont act like you are not building him too

[opal bone]

It's a necessity

[storm moth]

[opal bone]

Otherwise I'd build Solise

[static bone]

Im so close but so so far

Just got mine to mythic

[storm moth]

yeah if i wasnt a big stoopid i would want untill baden was tested

and i would probably build him

or wutus

[static bone]

I did brutus, then athane, im guessing ill do solise 3rd

[misty epoch]

Personally I am going Baeden next unless new awk turns out to be better

Went with Athane > Wutus

[static bone]

Yeah ill have time to spare before i start my 3rd awakened to see what the new one is like

Alot of the stuff i use baden and solise for i can atleast merc

[red apex]

I usually just save all the resources till i can make them 1 *

[static bone]

Yeah i see alot of people saying to save cards. I just pull singles whenever i get them cuz well idk lol

[steady hill]

interesting..

[misty epoch]

I am running similar team just Lorsan instead of Safiya

[restive goblet]

What do you do with GB then?

[steady hill]

interesting..

[restive goblet]

Swap hendrik and estrilda lol

his furn is wasted

[steady hill]

if it works it works

too late anyway

[misty epoch]

Just pure GBs

[steady hill]

might try this comp tho for smoulder

[steady hill]

imagine it without alna

still bad anyway with or without alna

[dusk tundra]

Ya sure? I also thought that but now I feel like Baden might be better

[restive goblet]

They both seem extremely useful at 7 teams, but Baden might be better at 5 teams for most buffs I think

But then you have nowhere to put Lucretia except cycle or five pull

[granite mason]

Then dont use lucy

[static bone]

The both seem about even to me. Id say solise gets the nod for possibly being used more places/modes

[granite mason]

Swolise> Abaden

[lapis moth]

want to swap baden and solise when u get it

[misty epoch]

Sure

Maybe in 1 month or so

[lapis moth]

Awesome I should get her 309e6x in a few weeks too

[dusk tundra]

Wow you'll have Baden in a month?

Ugh my 78 tickets is making me sadge, and I'm stuck in faction towers

[twilit gulch]

So many whales in this chat

[dusk tundra]

Wait you are in 43 that just doesnt make any sense, you a whale or somthn?

[granite mason]

You too!

[misty epoch]

That's my hope, if rng is in my favour. Gonna have 500ish tots in 1 month

[storm moth]

18 from top 100 with 5 battles

again no top 100

[twilit gulch]

Rip

Maybe this isn't ur debuff

[misty epoch]

What's your VIP points at?

[storm moth]

which one is mine then

[misty epoch]

I guess fire

Scarlet good there and Athane too

[storm moth]

[twilit gulch]

almost 13

[misty epoch]

And so is AlnaGB iirc

[misty epoch]

[misty epoch]

How close?

[twilit gulch]

$100

[granite mason]

[lapis moth]

[twilit gulch]

Madao whale tho

[lapis moth]

was a bit lucky with solise

[still heron]

Its confirmed bear is a kraken

[lapis moth]

agreed

[misty epoch]

🐳

Is it $1 1 point?

[twilit gulch]

[still heron]

I dont think so

[misty epoch]

Seems a bit more points per $