treasure-scramble

[lapis moth]

but

woke heroes and shiny stars

[royal vigil]

[quartz salmon]

And the excitement of getting 45k poe and using em all in 5mins

[twilit gulch]

Gacha = gambling for kids

[quartz salmon]

Pretty much yeah

I just hope kids don’t steal their parents card for pixels

[royal vigil]

[crystal cloud]

Any tips for the last very bad performing team?:)

[obtuse mauve]

Tru heroes that have some early cc for raku, i think maybe morrow and geralt. I'd replace desira, probably

Another option would be to switch grez and brawtus. Idk if it would be an improvement to the overall wr

[crystal cloud]

Both? And wo else to replace then?

[obtuse mauve]

No no, exchange their positions. Alna-grez and brawtus-raku. Thinking better it doesn't seem like a good idea, tbh

[crystal cloud]

alna grez had a pretty bad winrate and the current team has over 90% so i think i will not change the alna team.

[obtuse mauve]

Yeah, sounds right. I really don't know how to do a decent raku team without ldv

[royal vigil]

):

[obtuse mauve]

Maybe abandon raku and do a 5pull

[royal vigil]

Get ldv

[crystal cloud]

need another 240k chal coins 😦

[royal vigil]

Soon (:

[crystal cloud]

5pull with thoran and grez or what characters?

[obtuse mauve]

Neither thoran nor grez are great in the current buff. You need the earliest burst possible. Maybe split yen from dims and put thoran there, at least he won't die too soon and completely destroy the comp

[misty epoch]

@clever creek How's -56 going?

[clever creek]

R2 is impossible

[obtuse mauve]

I'm just throwing some ideas. You'll have to try it and see. Tbh, your box still lacks some basic heroes/investment, so don't beat yourself up too much and give it a bit of time

[misty epoch]

Who's getting energy pot?

Mehira or Daimon?

[clever creek]

Pot isn't problem, but

[misty epoch]

Why did I ping you in TS channel?

[clever creek]

U a bitch thats why

[misty epoch]

Show replay

[lapis moth]

when ch 16 sir

[clever creek]

Everything follows exactly like your battle and orthros dies and shit but the main problem is unlike yours where solise ults and your mehira and daimon live, my side dies every time, it's been 11 hours of tries with M mehira

[clever creek]

I'm trying stfu

[lapis moth]

[clever creek]

When ch40 huh? Bitch

[misty epoch]

Hmm that's weird, charmizard can be rng but not this much for this round

[lapis moth]

I am at ch 40 sir

[clever creek]

41 then fucker

[clever creek]

I'm trying mugus clear atm with E mehira and 309e60 albedo

[lapis moth]

idk, about halfway through

[clever creek]

Good luck on 41

[lapis moth]

thx

[misty epoch]

You should merc Swolise if possible

With eye

[restive goblet]

You could try Yen instead of LDV

Oh wait nevermind you’re already using her on another team

[clever creek]

I have one but what i do

[misty epoch]

Use instead of Daimon

[clever creek]

Hmmm, I'll try raku as well but then r3 leaves a spot

I'll quit if i can't beat it within next reset

[lapis moth]

[misty epoch]

Can I have your account?

[storm moth]

beat ym

[clever creek]

Okay

[misty epoch]

I was just kidding lol

Too busy to play 2 acc

[clever creek]

I have 4

[misty epoch]

All yours?

[clever creek]

All above ch40

[misty epoch]

Or someone gave to you

[clever creek]

Same account, 4 servers bitch

[misty epoch]

Oh

[clever creek]

I stopped playing on 2 though, now it's just flora simp alt and main

[misty epoch]

You must really enjoy campaign

[clever creek]

Not really

I didn't enjoy campaign until ch40

That's why you'll see my alts are all overlevelled as fuck

I just wanna stay top 10 on my server

[lapis moth]

gib tips for q5p pls

without skriath si30

[clever creek]

If no kfc +30 then beef up queen and eironn

[lapis moth]

gonna try eironn e18 and getting him some gear

[clever creek]

T4 his weap boots and coat

[lapis moth]

ok

[storm moth]

4 points from t100

[misty epoch]

T64 -> T34, better

[twilit gulch]

That raku LDV

[storm moth]

even my raku ldv did better bruh

[twilit gulch]

Gotta setup 6 teams now

[steady hill]

is this a good raku ldv?

[obtuse mauve]

Most of the time ldv carries harder than raku

[royal vigil]

youre missing the raku in this raku ldv

[robust meteor]

What region

[gaunt marten]

Your raku looking kinda weird

[storm moth]

38

[steady hill]

maybe my raku is limited edition idk

[steady hill]

nah ur trippin’

[royal vigil]

dam u rite

[quartz salmon]

I think you should run scarlet burst and astar joan kren LDV raku, I got 36 and 48% respectively

[storm moth]

these my comps now

[quartz salmon]

Your not using LDV lmao

103 still?

[obtuse mauve]

How good is kren there? I thought he was useless this buff

[storm moth]

203

im gonna use him in 6 teams

[obtuse mauve]

He doesn't really need 9f for this TS. Battle rarely reaches a point where he ults

[quartz salmon]

Pretty sure he’s useless but I don’t really have a good sub for t3, idk maybe knock back does something. Could try with chicken or mortas but that seems weird

[storm moth]

yeah but e36 would be nice for this ts

or for anything else

[quartz salmon]

If you have something else I think that’s better

[obtuse mauve]

True, stats are what matter most

[quartz salmon]

Yeah e36 slaps

IS is nice

[storm moth]

also, it only got 48% this round

[quartz salmon]

Raine with LDV could be insane if he was highest combat rating

Could one shot team if he ults fast

[storm moth]

[quartz salmon]

Works dw

[twilit gulch]

Doesn't he need to paint to ult

How fast does he paint

[radiant furnace]

Team 4 is horrible got cropped out. Region 3 top 6%

[quartz salmon]

That’s an excellent question

[storm moth]

show team 4 ples

[storm moth]

ask him irl idk

[twilit gulch]

[radiant furnace]

Don't run this. Apparently does work well enough for someone I follow in low top 100 with bigger investment idk his WR tho

[storm moth]

yeah that sonja needs 209 and palmer 20930

[obtuse mauve]

Idk, but usually either ldv ohkos the whole adversary (usually scarlet teams), sometimes raku finishes the job. If that fails, ldv dies fast and the team crumbles. Not really a sustain comp

[radiant furnace]

Just ended going to try Maulers+ C&R and Astar

[storm moth]

should work better than this

[gaunt marten]

Poor skinny sonja

[hazy fiber]

Explain LDV? Not too caught up on the new stuff yet

[lilac bobcat]

People still copy kraken comp?

[restive goblet]

Leonardo da Vinci

[hazy fiber]

appreciate it ❤️ tym

[steady hill]

[polar dune]

[twilit gulch]

[molten sparrow]

What's the standard f2p version of Raku ldv that people use?

[twilit gulch]

zol anasta astar

[gloomy lichen]

I use zol astar lorsan

[radiant furnace]

Know better than to try and copy Kraken comps more trying mid spenders because that's more where I'm at. Besides it looked like it was so much fun to run

Know better than to try and copy Kiasma or any the other mega Krakens at the top of the region

[polar dune]

That line up is missing so many breakpoint

[sacred notch]

sonja and palmer practically naked

[polar dune]

That Mortas barely exist

[radiant furnace]

true

Can't seem to pull any furniture for Mort think he's been on WL for 2 months and got 1/9

Got more for Palmer and can't ascend til later this week

[raven lark]

@lilac bobcat theres the winrate for ur luc pippa comp

wtf is up w my gbs and ainz 💀

[molten sparrow]

Yikes. Don't have zol not Astar built. Does Anasta have to be built to use her, if so, what's her investment?

[frozen crest]

9f to give team tankiness

or so i heard, i dont read skills so 🤡

when i didnt have them built i just put tanks frontline

like arthur

[molten sparrow]

What about si?

[frozen crest]

10 or 20 i think

30 is nice dmg but i wouldnt say mandatory

[molten sparrow]

Seems doable. Glad she doesn't require e60 or anything crazy like that

[frozen crest]

try reading her skills so you might have an idea

[molten sparrow]

Is there a guide that I can read that gives me some of the more used formations? I actually want to start investing into ts since people keep saying that in hindering my progress by not

I know that I can look at some of the formations on the leader boards, I don't have majority of the champs used to make the formations work

[lilac bobcat]

It's decent now

[raven lark]

yh all other winrates dropped hard tho 😔

[lilac bobcat]

Mine too dw

[lapis moth]

rates usually drop when you move up in ranks

[raven lark]

true

never seen ainz and gbs go this low tho

[molten sparrow]

Best I've been able to get is top 60%

[lilac bobcat]

Why 60%

[frozen crest]

newer/weaker players usually play around
alna gb-luc cycle-scarlet burst-raku ldv-ainz

those are usually the 5 teams you end up with at 5team point

there's 5p and random bs for uninvested boxes but once you get woke heroes or more built celhypo box, you'll not have random teams at the end

@molten sparrow

but youre in an older region so getting high% is natural, just not too high like 60%. that basically means not-giving-a-fucj

[lilac bobcat]

That's worse than not giving a f

[storm moth]

@civic sage your teams are ass

[frozen crest]

does hendrick do shit there

[storm moth]

yes

buff whane

witf 3f skill

[opal bone]

You really should read some skills.

[nocturne token]

imo athane and hendrik backline is better

[storm moth]

it is but i dont want to frontline rosa

[restive goblet]

She’s gonna walk into their team anyway following thane

[storm moth]

shes not gonna take the first hit tho

[frozen crest]

no

i dont need to read skills if someone can explain em to me

[storm moth]

i didnt read that either btw

[nocturne token]

well if athane jump into some suicidal situation and rosa is following him i would rather have hendrik protecting athane

[frozen crest]

also hend is hero on top of him

[storm moth]

okay i will do that

[frozen crest]

if he's pos 2 wouldnt that be pos 4 and 5

[storm moth]

no

pos before him

[nocturne token]

pos 2 protect pos 1

hendrik being backline himself would exclude him to, so more chance he would protect athane

[storm moth]

yeah fixed now

ty corn

[nocturne token]

you are having good wr with it anyway maybe dont fix thing not yet broken idk

[storm moth]

i mean it was always good

thats actually the lowest it got

[nocturne token]

okay

[opal bone]

I like how I have better Athane support team than poe and zuma, but 10/12 Athane.

[frozen crest]

only $20

pull the trigger

[opal bone]

I'm real f2p, not fake like y'all.

[frozen crest]

im real bro

[storm moth]

same

[opal bone]

[dusk tundra]

Same

[lapis moth]

can I join pls

I have been f2p for like a week

[storm moth]

im f2p for a while now

[dusk tundra]

How bad will team 6 perform

[exotic temple]

55%

[dusk tundra]

More like 25%

[frozen crest]

31.4159%

[royal vigil]

Pie %

[gaunt marten]

I tried solise cycle and it sucked huge fucks

Going back to what I was doing w her lmao

Everyone else doing fine

[storm moth]

yeah cycle is doing nothing for me too

[broken basin]

i just unlock this mode, is there a difference in these path

[gaunt marten]

You will be facing off w ppl who pick each route up until you reach masters tier

Green and blue are good picks red is tryhards and krakens

I picked red the other month

[storm moth]

it depends on your region

[gaunt marten]

You're entering kinda late but it's worth doing ts even casually cause it's free shit for minimal time spent

[storm moth]

i think red is the easiest for me

[gaunt marten]

Weird

[broken basin]

[gaunt marten]

I was told red is always krakens

[storm moth]

idk if that makes a diff for you tbh

[gaunt marten]

Red 2 seasons ago was rough

[gaunt marten]

??

I'm not kraken

[lapis moth]

[storm moth]

[broken basin]

just me saying "hmm"

[gaunt marten]

Oh okay generally that emoji is like. Cap

Like how smoku rn is accusing me of being kraken

[storm moth]

i didnt say that wdym

[gaunt marten]

Biting you

[storm moth]

[gaunt marten]

I could kraken but it would kinda suck

I've already spent so much

[storm moth]

this game sucks

[gaunt marten]

I'm having fun most of the time

[storm moth]

yeah because you spend

[gaunt marten]

Just want them to release whurral so I can max him put him next to trez in my bio then give my account away

And be done

[lapis moth]

can you gib your account pls

[gaunt marten]

No I already know who it's going to

[lapis moth]

sadge

[storm moth]

@summer epoch how much for gabes account

[gaunt marten]

Need someone who will take my boys for walks and enrichment

FUCK

[storm moth]

[gaunt marten]

PEAVE HER ALONE DHAJFHSJD

I'm crying

[storm moth]

lmaoo

[gaunt marten]

Embla would never sell it

[lapis moth]

how much can you afford sir

[storm moth]

2 dorras and an apple

[lapis moth]

[frozen crest]

if i were embla, 2 dollars sounds nice

and you also get an apple

[storm moth]

thats what im saying

[summer epoch]

Depends on the money I get

Ka-ching

[storm moth]

i gave a good offer

[summer epoch]

If the offer is good enough to take my main to Gabe levels I'd take it

[storm moth]

2 dorras and an apple is way more than that

[summer epoch]

What a steal

[storm moth]

[gaunt marten]

NOOOO

MY SOUPY BOYS

You would sell my soupy boys

[summer epoch]

Of course I wouldn't

Pat pat

[storm moth]

[frozen crest]

poe

this is the time u up your offer to 3

[summer epoch]

[gaunt marten]

You would sell him

You would sell my he him???

My me??

[lapis moth]

[gaunt marten]

Embla would sell the soupy boys for a maxed neural cloud account I know that

How many waifus does a shiny abaden get

[summer epoch]

Don't be silly

A maxed afk account on the other hand-

[gaunt marten]

You would throw my soupies away

My vei

Vei is so nice in ts

[summer epoch]

I wouldn't throw your soupies away

I stir them in my pot

[gaunt marten]

This channel is like my chat now

Only like 10.people come in here

[lapis moth]

don't you know like 95% of the people are lurkers sir

[broken basin]

in my case i'm new and don't know things and i can't stay in ds for a long time

[frozen crest]

whats your cr score last time

you got like 1-2bmore than me iirc

[broken basin]

does using this emote ping you ?

[lapis moth]

I think 13.19b iirc

[frozen crest]

what %

[gaunt marten]

Get vei'd

[lapis moth]

46%

[frozen crest]

damn..\

[quartz salmon]

Wow

[gaunt marten]

I'm gonna grab yall and make you sit next to me so I can show you all my og thane wins in ts

[lapis moth]

you use old thane in ts

[gaunt marten]

He's getting 12%

At rank 23

So something is working

Better than my other options

[lapis moth]

well I guess if he's maxed might worth a shot a 6-7 teams

[gaunt marten]

I really fucked myself by taking lyca and trez from solise cause I thought cycle would at leat give me 40-50%

Fuck me for trying something that isn't my own weird comps

[lapis moth]

now you know for next time

[gaunt marten]

[lapis moth]

https://tenor.com/view/doug-maclean-doug-maclean-hnic-nhl-gif-26820712

[gaunt marten]

Poor trez getting yoinked out of teams every time I go up a bracket

[lapis moth]

to quote a certain classy

[gaunt marten]

I saw 2 other ppl using solise cycle in here and doing okay

If I can finish top 20 I'll be happy

[lapis moth]

I gib tips for abaden merc

[gaunt marten]

I think I have a good chance once we hit 7 teams

I don't hold him anymore it was too fucking stressful

Now ppl trying to reserve vei

[lapis moth]

wow really

maybe I should gaze him after haelus

really liked his trial too

[gaunt marten]

He's great

Doing well w athane in ts

[lapis moth]

he's almost impossible to kill

[gaunt marten]

Wr 88-100% entire time I've been in top 40

[lapis moth]

[gaunt marten]

Oh I deleted some of the ss

But I was rank 28 I think

[lapis moth]

nice

why no e30 estrilda

[gaunt marten]

Yeah 28

[gaunt marten]

Blease I'm tryinf

I have so much core 4f to work on

I had like no dims until this week

[lapis moth]

I see

[gaunt marten]

Account is from 2020 I quit a few times mostly just poked at my fav blorbos until October decided to start whaling

[lapis moth]

nice progress despite taking breaks

[gaunt marten]

Run on sentence from hell

It's the vip 15

[lapis moth]

[gaunt marten]

I didn't make many mistakes I don't have like a e60 ainz or max shem

[frozen crest]

madao do u want an advice

[lapis moth]

[quartz salmon]

Lmao

[gaunt marten]

E30 gwyn but I like her so she can keep it

I'm not tho

[lapis moth]

yes

[quartz salmon]

Max Shem e60 ainz

[gaunt marten]

15 is not kraken

[frozen crest]

if u can't beat em, join em

[quartz salmon]

Nah it’s not fr

[frozen crest]

how much $ is 15

[gaunt marten]

I crave death the closer I get to 16 tho

About 7k

[lapis moth]

what are you implying sir

[lapis moth]

[quartz salmon]

I just got to vip 11 last week

[frozen crest]

u arent f2p?

wtf

[lapis moth]

[quartz salmon]

I’m like you vegan f2p

[gaunt marten]

Lmao

[frozen crest]

bro im vip10

[quartz salmon]

I passed vip10 cause I’m lvl 200 now

I spent like 100-110$

More than 6 months ago

[frozen crest]

u are no longer f2p

[civic sage]

Why aren't you using LDV?

[gaunt marten]

In not even lvl 200

[quartz salmon]

[lapis moth]

great question

[gaunt marten]

Lolol

[quartz salmon]

I’m f2p in my heart

[storm moth]

i litearlly showed you these teams yesterday

and you said they were good

[quartz salmon]

Ahah

[gaunt marten]

Rip

[civic sage]

[frozen crest]

asta thought u were ldv-less yesterday

and not anymore today

[civic sage]

Yeah idk why I didn't tell you to use him if you have him

Ideally you run LDV Raku instead of Luc Cycle but ig lack of units is why you didn't?

[frozen crest]

28% is not the worst tho

i only got 30+ with my raku team

[quartz salmon]

Same

LDV raku isn’t doing great

You used kren aswell no?

Like Joan Astar Raku LDV kren

[frozen crest]

ye

am gonna change it to lorsan

[civic sage]

Just checked and mine dropped from 70% -> 50%

[quartz salmon]

I’m trying 309e30 Daimon

Lol

[frozen crest]

50% is still

[quartz salmon]

Yea pretty good

[frozen crest]

monkaw

but i cant complain, my luc gbs was never low this season

[storm moth]

im gonna run this now

[quartz salmon]

Ok so I checked replays and looked at stats and surprisingly Kren actually does stuff. He usually does around 20% dmg and his knock back works well with LDV cannon

Some battles he goes front and just gets one shot tho

So there is still much better options

[storm moth]

idk how my pleb ldv gonna do tho

[quartz salmon]

Any reason for hendrick Backline?

[storm moth]

doesnt insta die and still gives bonus

and protec

[quartz salmon]

Okok

Did you have that t5 this morning?

[storm moth]

nope

[storm moth]

i used this

[quartz salmon]

Raku LDV isn’t doing great, I don’t think that team will do great with grez hodg front

I would stick with Joan astar

[storm moth]

astar does stuff in scarlet tho

[frozen crest]

i did grez astar

cuz anasta in mauler

[storm moth]

and its defo gonna be better than lucy cycle

[quartz salmon]

Grez works?

Is your Anasta 9f already?

[frozen crest]

idk

[quartz salmon]

Forsure

[frozen crest]

yes

[quartz salmon]

Nice

Lucky you

[frozen crest]

carded her

[storm moth]

also lucy in gbs is 2x wr than grez

[quartz salmon]

How many ?

[storm moth]

or eorin

[frozen crest]

3

[quartz salmon]

That’s ok

I’m at 0f

[storm moth]

my anasta 3f

[quartz salmon]

Been in wishlist for decades

[storm moth]

and im 1 copy from A

[quartz salmon]

Mine is 1* hehe

[storm moth]

also i cant take her from mv

because i need neva

[quartz salmon]

Same

Nev gonna be 303e30 soon

[storm moth]

oh wait no

i can take her

i need 5 more and i have 5 hcps

[quartz salmon]

Lol

[frozen crest]

u also need balmer

[quartz salmon]

Sg gonna wait

Balmer

I’m waiting for furn on him before hcp

[storm moth]

yeah after neva

[quartz salmon]

Yup

I’m scared for t6 tho

[storm moth]

same

[quartz salmon]

I’m running luc cycle

[storm moth]

im struggling with 5 teams

[quartz salmon]

Yeah I dropped 30 places this morning

[storm moth]

btw this debuff is good for whane

[quartz salmon]

Still doing better than firefly tho

Hmm last one was better I feel like no?

[storm moth]

idk i had 90% wr with eorin

for raine

[quartz salmon]

Nice

Mine is 78% but I don’t have Raine or hendrik

[storm moth]

mine is 7x% with both of them

[quartz salmon]

Oh.

How is Luc AGB doing so good

[storm moth]

how is ldv doing so bad

is a better question

[frozen crest]

cant one shot as much without bedo si30

so

[gaunt marten]

Rank?

Alna luc gb was eating ass for me a couple days ago

[quartz salmon]

Same

T70 rn

I was t47 before t5

And my Alna luc GB has gradually been doing better

[storm moth]

i was top 40 before t5 too

[gaunt marten]

I'm scared of that 7 teams

[quartz salmon]

I need a fatter Joan and good replacement for kren

Anasta would be incredibly

[gaunt marten]

Anasta is so good

[quartz salmon]

t6 also scary

Yeah 9f is just ouf

[storm moth]

im not gonna be in top 100

thats for sure

[gaunt marten]

Blease I want t20

[storm moth]

i just want top 100

for tot cards

[quartz salmon]

Nah you are gonna get it

t100 easy with Whane and good copium

[storm moth]

nah bro

lucy cycle sucks ass

[quartz salmon]

You might go up

[storm moth]

and gbs sucks ass without her

[quartz salmon]

Everyone is gonna run luc cycle

And you have good twins

Good désira

Probably will do better than average luc cycle

[storm moth]

i cant run desi

[quartz salmon]

I’m still running E twins hehe

Are you not using her?

[storm moth]

linked to ldv

[quartz salmon]

She’s 203 no?

[storm moth]

200

[quartz salmon]

Lmao

Wolise then

?

[storm moth]

yeah

i will run it first 50 battles

and if it does badly i will link ldv to someone else ig

[quartz salmon]

We can compare wr if it’s bad put desira

Yup

[lapis moth]

abrut whel when

[storm moth]

never

im f2p

[lapis moth]

[trail swift]

i'm 4-8% usually and missing a ridiculous amount of pvp stronk heroes..wonder what i'll be when i get them. my region is pretty weak

[lilac bobcat]

Then the people higher than you will get them too

And they will get them faster cause they get more sht

So you gonna stay the same

[storm moth]

i was top 10% once

and then i jumped to 4-2%

[lilac bobcat]

It's just matter of luck

[trail swift]

hitting 4% without a single awakened and missing stuff like ldv ezio joan 9f mishka etc makes me think i can inch forward a bit more

or at least make a lower gap, like 4-6% instead of 4-8%

[civic sage]

What region are you?

[trail swift]

38

[storm moth]

show your comps

because thats my region

[frozen crest]

4-8% sounds bad

for that region

[storm moth]

and you arent getting top 100 any time soon btw

unless you whale

[trail swift]

lol my comps are bad i still run 5pull

probably wasting my lucy that way but eh

[storm moth]

show comps and box

[frozen crest]

ngl, sounds like

[storm moth]

real

[trail swift]

k sec, my comps change every time tho cause i make them up on teh spot lel

aside from alna gb etc

[frozen crest]

are you.. ldv-less?

[surreal gyro]

fr skill issues, there's f2p in top 100 R38 consistently

[trail swift]

yes

[frozen crest]

there's so much people in nihilum

f2ps, rather

scoring top50/100 in their region

[trail swift]

yeh but i made a shitload of mistakes on my acct and also barely played first few months

i didnt know importance of pushing back then etc so kinda behind, but still decent rewards from ts

[storm moth]

so i have to join to be in top 100?

[storm moth]

[civic sage]

Do you have Yen?

[trail swift]

yeah she's only 200 tho

and bound to my raine lol

[dusk tundra]

Whale. I don’t even have yen

[opal bone]

Everyone in Nihilum is spender

Asta big whale, Raku the biggest

[surreal gyro]

everyone in olympians is f2p fr

[trail swift]

where is a yen200 good at? i have estrilda in wishlist for 3f but could wishlist yenn instead

[opal bone]

Especially Vesi

[frozen crest]

no

[opal bone]

Kitchen.

[trail swift]

she's a strong independent mage tho

[civic sage]

Rebind to a different hero and use in Team 4/5, even 200 is ok

[opal bone]

Not with 200 she's not.

[trail swift]

oki thx

only having 2 dim keys sucks

[civic sage]

@ zappy

[storm moth]

she is

[opal bone]

@solid monolith

[obtuse mauve]

Yen E30 is very important for this ts

[storm moth]

ngl ami ts chat is useless to me

[solid monolith]

[frozen crest]

@opal bone are u in olympians

[trail swift]

bound her to my 2* hendrick

[civic sage]

Zappy ban Mingles

[opal bone]

Oh wait, Jappy's on, run, this not a drill, I repeat, this is not a drill.

[civic sage]

[opal bone]

Perhaps.

[trail swift]

how urgent should i make joan's e30

[opal bone]

I severely doubt you have a more pressing e30 lined up, show box.

[frozen crest]

let me ask you a question

[civic sage]

Very urgent, you have Silas/Ferael e30 and not JoA

[opal bone]

Ferael e30

Which clown in #classic-questions told you to e30 Ferael?

[trail swift]

i have silas ferael daimon and eironn at e30 😳

[surreal gyro]

tricked by old guides

[opal bone]

[civic sage]

Are you a spender?

[trail swift]

yeah old guides...and taking ezizh to L was my first challenger buys lol

or whatever store that is

[opal bone]

No e30 kren or joan

[civic sage]

You seem better than @storm moth at least

[frozen crest]

damn

who mentored you

[trail swift]

just the subs

[opal bone]

[frozen crest]

let's say

you have 5 friends

joe, jay, jack, jill, and joey

[opal bone]

I feel like you got lazy with joey

[frozen crest]

you guys were classmates and on top of all, friends, since kindergarten

[opal bone]

Should've went with jim

[trail swift]

so is e30 joan > kren > abrutus at some point a good path to go

[frozen crest]

now you're about to go to college, all 5 of your friends decided to go to harvard

but you decided to go to uh

[molten sparrow]

That's what I'm using though

[opal bone]

I would do all before Yen, yes.

[frozen crest]

hogwarts

will you reconsider your choice and join your friends in harvard

or stay in hogwarts

[opal bone]

Hogwarts > any other one

[trail swift]

how does luc cycle do? maybe i should use that instead of 5pull

[opal bone]

It's a tough choice, Hogwarts has magic, but it also doesn't exist, so I'd go with the friends of course.

[frozen crest]

great

let's rephrase those questions

hogwarts is your current guild

meanwhile harvard is nihilum

[molten sparrow]

52% win rate

[surreal gyro]

poaching pringles from our guild

[opal bone]

Nihilum is a better place than Olympians if you want a more tryhard experience.

[frozen crest]

poach is a strong word

[opal bone]

In Olympians we mostly just vibe.

[surreal gyro]

we are now strong cuz of zod alts

[opal bone]

[gaunt marten]

How many people is zod now

[opal bone]

7

The Magnificent Seven

https://tenor.com/view/magnificent7-walk-walking-gif-6088876

[frozen crest]

well

[gaunt marten]

That's so scary

Why is zod like this

[opal bone]

Zod has zero chill

[trail swift]

is queen 5 pull effective at all in TS? at least compared to picking a bunch of random heroes :q

[storm moth]

[opal bone]

I ran Lucy q5p

For 5 teams

20-25% most of the time

Actually 34% this last round.

[robust meteor]

Wait .. are we not suppose to A ezizh anymore?

[opal bone]

Pretty sure you take Ezizh to M

Then Zol to A

With challenger coins.

[robust meteor]

My Zol is already 1*

[storm moth]

sg zol is so much better for your ts progress tho

[trail swift]

it's more that it set me way behind on getting ldv/merlin

still 3.5 months away from ldv

[opal bone]

How can you be 3.5 months away from LDV

It takes you 3 months to get it from 0

[storm moth]

4 months

[trail swift]

it takes almost a full month per 15

[storm moth]

actually

[trail swift]

at rank 30s anyway

[opal bone]

I calculated and it takes 3 months per 4 copies.

[trail swift]

what rank are you

[frozen crest]

depends on your ladder

if you're like me who's top 4

then it should be quick

[storm moth]

okay yeah with top 10 you get it in 100 days

[frozen crest]

especially with lab and guildies who rank high in LC

[opal bone]

Top 10 doesn't get that much more than 30th

[robust meteor]

who should I be using challenger coins on for ts? :/

[opal bone]

Also if you're 30th then big skill issue

Also this is not counting challenger coins you get outside LC

Which are a fair bit.

[dusk tundra]

Zolroth > Athalia > Ezizh > Orthros

[trail swift]

28.7 days for me per 250k points

[trail swift]

that's true doe

i think :3 [where?]

[robust meteor]

athalia it is

[opal bone]

Lab gives chall coins

[storm moth]

i still dont know why you guys buying zol from chall shop

[robust meteor]

I did both challenger and star faze for zol

[dusk tundra]

Why wouldn’t you

[opal bone]

Because it's the efficient thing to do?

[storm moth]

it slows your progress in ts and camp

[trail swift]

i remember that goblin boss or whatever in normal lab sometimes gave you a bunch, haven't paid attention in dismal tho

[dusk tundra]

That’s cap. How?

[civic sage]

Zol is the best choice out of the 4 for Campaign/TS

[frozen crest]

what

[opal bone]

Campaign is a joke. You can just merc one if you're an avid campaign pusher. Irrelevant in TS for newer regions.

[storm moth]

wym what

[dusk tundra]

Just because you buy from challenger doesn’t mean you can’t sg for them

[robust meteor]

Unless you’re a spender and throwing diamonds at stargazing for zolrath, challenger coin is a slight boost

[storm moth]

yeah thats why im gonna sg him

[opal bone]

Zolrath is only ever worth getting if it means that he will be the sole difference in you going from top 1% to t100.

[civic sage]

If you SG him there's no reason to not also go for him in the shop

[civic sage]

^

[trail swift]

i gazed zolrath the entire way..challenger is like a year wait

[opal bone]

Which will not be the case for 99% of people.

[dusk tundra]

Why not do both? It’ll speed up the process

[frozen crest]

getting him from chall means that u can get him sooner if you're also sg-ing him

[dusk tundra]

I sg Zolroth because he wasn’t in store

[storm moth]

i will prob do both yeah

[twilit gulch]

[dusk tundra]

I need one more Athalia for 5*

[robust meteor]

What’s a good ts focus for challenger coin then? Athalia or ezizh

[dusk tundra]

Bruh

My answer is final

[opal bone]

You don't have to "focus TS" with your chall coins. Just get Ezizh to M, he's used in TS too.

[robust meteor]

😂

[dusk tundra]

Athalia for TS. Ezizh for every where else

[opal bone]

Lucy cycle is good in 2/3 TS buffs.

And nice cheap team.

[dusk tundra]

Define good

[opal bone]

For people in their first 1-2 years of play.

[dusk tundra]

Cycle doesn’t work for high level

[robust meteor]

How about just hypo stargazing then? Between zaph, cruke, audrae and vei

[dusk tundra]

Sad

[opal bone]

Again, first 1-2 years.

[civic sage]

Probably Cruke

[robust meteor]

I’m pretty new. Region 34

[opal bone]

It works just fine as 5-7th team for me.

[trail swift]

so don't follow teh #faq-resources saying to M him after 1* twins?

A him i mean*

[frozen crest]

that's clown

[civic sage]

You should almost never gaze Ezizh

[robust meteor]

That’s literally what I was just staring at.

[dusk tundra]

Idk low regions or budget comps

[opal bone]

You should only get Ezizh from chall store, so there is no relation to Twins.

[civic sage]

Well, tbh Cycle is pretty disappointing for a 4 Celehypo comp but it can be alright depending on the debuff

[dusk tundra]

Audrae is used every TS in burst

[robust meteor]

What’s he use for? And up to 1*?

[trail swift]

ahh alright, maybe after LDV then. i have him at L and 1 copy already anyway

[opal bone]

It's more that it uses units you don't need anywhere else, for a serviceable team.

[dusk tundra]

All of them need 309e60 except Zaph

[civic sage]

For TS perhaps, but Cruke is better overall

[opal bone]

Veithael > Audry now as well.

[civic sage]

Audrae is also used in burst which you would want to gaze Zaph for and that's a pretty heavy investment for a new player

[storm moth]

oh wait actually i will not do that. i will but ezizh and sg zol

[dusk tundra]

I agree but they keep mentioning for TS

[civic sage]

Yeah, it's still good but not as promising as I initially thought

[opal bone]

You will not gaze Zaph in your first 2 years of playing this game.

[robust meteor]

Yea I’m not about this

[civic sage]

That question never mentioned TS so I just gave my opinion overall

[civic sage]

Just adjust to the meta of your own TS region tbh

[robust meteor]

I hear cruke is really good for CR but can’t really focus on CR as a newbie either

[frozen crest]

what's your %

[civic sage]

Following absolute PvP meta at the highest tier isn't necessarily worth it, many variations can work in newer regions

[dusk tundra]

Honestly as a f2p or low spender I’d say save 400 cards so you know who is meta at the time after building Lucretia twins and Alna

[robust meteor]

Top 1%

[storm moth]

so should i sg cruke after zol

[frozen crest]

cr

[robust meteor]

Oh just diamond 1 and below

[civic sage]

Wait until you get there

[storm moth]

true

[civic sage]

no need to plan that far ahead

[frozen crest]

i see

[storm moth]

yes need

[robust meteor]

That’s a good advice. Thanks

[civic sage]

[trail swift]

should i gaze for 1* twins before M mortas? (he’s e+)

[dusk tundra]

Just sg every hero then charge back

[robust meteor]

Yea I’ve tried to push CR but way too much investment. Hence TS seems like a better focus for me

[frozen crest]

no

[storm moth]

mortas is too good

can be used everywhere

[trail swift]

ok i’m gazing mortas now just making sure

[opal bone]

Gazing Zol is such a huge waste for f2p/low spender

[robust meteor]

I have all of them built, 1* Alna, 3* Lucy, 1* Twins, 1* Haelus

[civic sage]

Yeah, I would never do it but ppl are entitled to their own choices

[robust meteor]

Gotta blame the old guides you know lol

[trail swift]

my 203 zol will be useful some day 🥹

[storm moth]

im not gonna wait 6 months for zol bruh

[frozen crest]

true

[opal bone]

Nobody is entitled to bad choices when clear, more efficient options are laid before them

[civic sage]

[dusk tundra]

Why wouldn’t you gaze for zol

[storm moth]

thats what im saying

[civic sage]

Gazing Zol isn't bad

[lilac bobcat]

Gazing shemira is bad

[civic sage]

But I just wouldn't do it immediately, idk where poe is at

[opal bone]

Because you're delaying other celepogs that can't be bought in chall shop.

[storm moth]

i want to do it after i get haelus

[opal bone]

And are just as good or better

[lilac bobcat]

Do not gaze zol

[storm moth]

i will

[robust meteor]

I mean it wasn’t too long ago that guides are telling you to ascend mehira

[lilac bobcat]

I wouldn't suggest

[storm moth]

dcda

[lilac bobcat]

I will suggest that get him first

[frozen crest]

ty for tip

[lilac bobcat]

In chally

Instead of that goddamn ezizh

[robust meteor]

[storm moth]

ezizh is good tho

[lilac bobcat]

When did you use ezizh in campaign

[storm moth]

yesterday

[lilac bobcat]

You can merc

[dusk tundra]

Like who? Zol is so impactful while the others in store are not

[lilac bobcat]

Like you will use ezizh every multi

[opal bone]

Haelus??

[lilac bobcat]

But you will use zolrath every multi

[storm moth]

i litearlly said after haelus

[opal bone]

Twins A bigger.

[lilac bobcat]

Just get 1 ezizh copy and go

[storm moth]

i have twins 1*?

[frozen crest]

gazing zol is ok but not before haelus twins and other whatnot unless you're 100% focusing ts for some reason

[opal bone]

Veithael and Oldlene bigger

[dusk tundra]

No

[lilac bobcat]

They aren't on the same round

[trail swift]

the amount of horrible mistakes i've made following guides man -_- but i mean at least i don't have an e60 thoran or some shit

[frozen crest]

by the time you get those zol is probably only a few copies away from A

[lilac bobcat]

Vei needs e60

[opal bone]

The point here is that you can get Zol with chall coins while you get other good celepogs with gazers.

[dusk tundra]

Zol needs to get to A3f asap

[frozen crest]

or utilize zol immediately when he's only a few copies away left

[opal bone]

Rushing Zol and having just Zol is not as good as having Zol and another celepog later.

[lilac bobcat]

Zol needs 3f

[opal bone]

Zol literally will do nothing for newer players.

[trail swift]

i got zol almost entirely for charmizard cause i didn't realize unitl recently that it's not worth building for campaign (before other stuff anyway)..he's a cool ass hero tho ngl

[lilac bobcat]

You see new players push campaign really hard

[robust meteor]

I mean it’s just the meta shifts so fast with all the new releases.

[opal bone]

For campaign you can just merc every now and then when you need, in TS you either run him in scuffed burst or Athane, ut LB Athane just as good.

[lilac bobcat]

They will need zol

[civic sage]

Merc

[frozen crest]

no one does athane anymore

[lilac bobcat]

Good luck doing 1 multi every week or 2

[opal bone]

You realise that is the case post chapter 42, right? Perma power capped.

[lilac bobcat]

Cause I can't wait for that sht

[civic sage]

I mean, I know a f2p player who's played for ~1 year and is in ch 42 without Zol

[opal bone]

Z you're legit a veteran and a spender.

We are talking newer players that are f2p/low spender.

[storm moth]

thats the case for 41-40+

[lilac bobcat]

You're using an account that rc cram

[storm moth]

idk im still gonna sg zol

[lilac bobcat]

[opal bone]

If you're in a point where you RC cram you are either a big spender or a veteran account. In both cazes sg'ing Zol matters not, since you either throw money at him or have him already by now.

[lilac bobcat]

Huh did I said sg zol

I said get him in chally

[opal bone]

Everyone agrees to get him in chally

[frozen crest]

the argument had too many teams

[lilac bobcat]

My point is get him first than ezizh

[frozen crest]

i leave now

[opal bone]

The issue is people here want to sg him

[lilac bobcat]

Cause fuck ezizh

[opal bone]

And we are trying to tell them it is bad idea

[lilac bobcat]

You will probably use zol more than ezizh

In campaign

[storm moth]

its only you tho

[frozen crest]

if he's only a few copies away then it's not the worst idea

after other priorities, basically

[opal bone]

Me, Asta, Z

P2L is clown.

[lilac bobcat]

I'd suggest sging it if you're M+

[storm moth]

asta said that it isnt bad after you are done with haelus

[lilac bobcat]

You done with haelus?

[storm moth]

im gonna sg him after im done with haelus

[opal bone]

It is bad because you can chall coin him while you can't chall coin other top tier celepogs, why can't you understand?

[civic sage]

Isn't what I would do but if you are still struggling for t100 in TS it's alright

[lilac bobcat]

I didn't said it's bad to sg zol. I said get him first in chally

[frozen crest]

at the point where you're done with haelus, zol's probably already m - m+

[civic sage]

I'm considering Cruke/Morael/Oldelene/Vei next but I'm not necessarily sure on which to pick

[opal bone]

Also if you are struggling for top 100 TS with Athane then your issue is not "lacking Zol", it's most likely lacking other investments for heroes you already got.

[lilac bobcat]

Im sging veithael to M+ with just sg cards I get in ts and cr

[storm moth]

yeah im lacking e60

[lilac bobcat]

Then I will use diamond to gaze him to a1

[storm moth]

so what

[lilac bobcat]

You don't need so much e60

Zol works e30+

[storm moth]

i know

im talking about my heroes

im missing e60s

[civic sage]

Your issue is mostly SIF tbh

[lapis moth]

core hoe when

[opal bone]

You're not missing e60s, you're missing furn most likely, and some SI

[civic sage]

and ascension

[lilac bobcat]

If you're missing heroes that needs e60. You're probably whale

[storm moth]

what that

[opal bone]

Your Athane team is legit dog

[storm moth]

[civic sage]

Signature Item and Furniture

[opal bone]

But they don't need e60

[storm moth]

oh

[storm moth]

what is wrong with that team

explain

[opal bone]

Show it again

[lilac bobcat]

If you wanna go with athane. Prepare hendriks 9f and sonja

[opal bone]

You have like no rosa investment, no sonja, scuffed skreg

Probably lacking t3/t4 too

[civic sage]

Built Skreg/Anasta/Nevanthi/Astar should be enough for t100 tbh @storm moth

[storm moth]

thats what im building rn

[civic sage]

you could build further but even these are good enough

[lilac bobcat]

Decent. Get rosa 209f . Hen 209f and 209f e30 sonja iirc

[civic sage]

Then you will be t100 soon enough, you're Athane investment seems fine

what's the WR?

[lilac bobcat]

Also 209f raine

[civic sage]

9F Raine/Rosa are just a waste

[lilac bobcat]

Jesus that raine is starved

[quartz salmon]

303 Rosa no?

[opal bone]

Don't get 209F Raine, or Rosa

[civic sage]

^

[quartz salmon]

e3x

[opal bone]

Rosa 303e30 is nice though.

[storm moth]

~80%

[civic sage]

303e33 Rosa is an eventual investment yes

[quartz salmon]

Ok cool ty

[lilac bobcat]

9f rosa

Rosa is cool

F the haters

[verbal root]

Since you guys are discussing it. Let me ask.. should I continue gazing Zol at this point? I was thinking of a line like Zol -> CRuke.. with room for 1 star for my next awakened if I get it in time.

[civic sage]

Then hyper-investment into that team will probably not reap a significantly higher WR, just focus on other teams for now and you are fine

[lilac bobcat]

Finish your zol

[lapis moth]

+1

[civic sage]

You should probably still take red emblem chests in events since iirc you lack Anasta/Astar +30 too

[storm moth]

for this team im just building sonja tbh

[civic sage]

Don't

[lilac bobcat]

Stop half assing gaze

[opal bone]

What are your current TS finishes?

[civic sage]

Sonja is being replaced by Palmer in that comp now iirc

[civic sage]

at least that's what I'm seeing from some higher investment players and I expect that to translate down soon enough

[lapis moth]

I think luster said hendrick is being replaced?

[civic sage]

Is he?

[storm moth]

so what was wrong with my team? @opal bone

[opal bone]

@civic sage Pretty sure Rosa gets replaced.

[lilac bobcat]

You wanna replace the hero that saves athane

[civic sage]

@storm moth nvm then, remembered the wrong LB

[civic sage]

Rosa was never used altogether iirc, pretty sure Haelus is used there

I don't have Whane though

[opal bone]

Low Rosa investment, super scuffed skreg, you likely have no t3/t4s either

[lilac bobcat]

If it's 80% wr it's good for now

[opal bone]

You will want to use Haelus in other TS team and use Palmer there.

[lilac bobcat]

Where will you use haelus

Luc cycle?

Scarlet cycle?

[storm moth]

yeah idk why its bad then

[civic sage]

I don't think so

[verbal root]

Somewhere between T80s. Currently at 85. Only missed T100 two times after merge.

[civic sage]

Haelus is for Whane for those who don't run Cycle/run it at a much later stage

but ig that's not too relevant to poe hoe for now

[storm moth]

cycle uses solise now no?

[civic sage]

Yeah it does

[lilac bobcat]

No

[opal bone]

Since you're kind of on the edge of T100 could be worth considering, but honestly if you do Cruke instead it will be just as good for TS

[lilac bobcat]

Maybe in lower region

[dusk tundra]

CRuke needs 309e60 btw

[lilac bobcat]

Solise is used in cruke tarnos

You want those to stall for solise

[civic sage]

It depends on comps and debuffs, I've definitely seen Swolise used in Cycle by some players

[storm moth]

btw i should still card my ldv yes?

[opal bone]

No

[lapis moth]

#983496218577612830 message

[civic sage]

Thx for correcting me 👍

[opal bone]

LDV 9F doesn't even matter this buff

[lapis moth]

[opal bone]

And it certainly doesn't matter where you're at in Campaign

[storm moth]

if no i can 9f astar or sum

[civic sage]

Don't

[lilac bobcat]

Astar si30

[storm moth]

yh 50 chests from that

[lilac bobcat]

Not 9f

[storm moth]

who do i card then

[dusk tundra]

Thane

[lilac bobcat]

Show box

[dusk tundra]

36f 😏

[civic sage]

Show your wl/box, I'm guessing Anasta but you could have higher priorities