treasure-scramble

[maiden quiver]

Any insight or advice? Or just the snide remarks? Lol

[wide wasp]

Nah im to bad

[dim pier]

use farael instead of trez team one

[wide wasp]

Sry

[restive goblet]

Try ferael instead of trez and move Leonardo to the back middle spot

[dim pier]

swap mishka and raine positions team two

[restive goblet]

Scarlet should be back middle

so she can ult faster

[maiden quiver]

I had farael there before and only got around 50%

This was obviously worse lol, but going back to farael won't help me break into 60+

[restive goblet]

The way to make that team better (in addition to ferael) is to use a built athalia instead of oden or to use Abaden, Lucretia, Astar, or Eorin as the frontline with Alna.

Grez doesn’t work that well in this particular debuff.

[dim pier]

hows your athalia? Can replace oden for her if you got it

lol Henry all you. Im back to work

[maiden quiver]

I don't have either athalia or abaden, and luc is on my cycle team but I have a fairly well invested astar

309, no engravings yet

[dim pier]

other teams are expensive. You have athane or wutus?

[maiden quiver]

Wutus team is already on

[civic sage]

Ferael instead of Treznor for GBs and Team 4 needs a whole remake, Raku/LDV are the only units I would keep

LDV should also be P4

Also that order for Team 3 is terrible, I hope you've already fixed that though

[maiden quiver]

I did, should mishka be in 2 or 3 (swap with lyca)?

[restive goblet]

Team 3 is some variation of

Lyca
Estrilda
Scarlet
Mishka
Raine

[maiden quiver]

Okay that's what my positions are now

[restive goblet]

I’m not sure if estrilda/mishka and raine/lyca positioning matters, but mishka and Estrilda should be in the front and scarlet should be back middle

[civic sage]

I don't think they do at all

[maiden quiver]

And what about the raku team? If I pitch everything besides the core what goes in?

[civic sage]

well, they probably do considering arrangement of enemy teams but you can't control that

[civic sage]

Should be Raku P3/P5 and LDV P4, then you'd add heroes like Anasta/Atalene/Astar etc

[restive goblet]

My raku team did really shitty as a team 6 lol

[maiden quiver]

And should I try astar instead of Oden? Or not worth without astar engrave?

[restive goblet]

Astar is instead of grez if anything in that comp

Otherwise put her in dims or wilders

[maiden quiver]

Sorry, should I do that then?

[restive goblet]

idk it’s hard to say if dropping grez for her is worth it or if she would be better off on another team

Just have to try it both ways

[maiden quiver]

Nemora is 9f, does she have a place with raku?

[restive goblet]

I don’t think anybody will tell you to build Nemora for pvp, but if that’s what you’ve got, then maybe?

Do you have Lorsan built at all?

[maiden quiver]

Built but not investigated, 1* +20

Invested

[restive goblet]

that might be good enough, the link is a pretty powerful skill

you might want to use astar in that team since you don’t have a lot of great other options

[maiden quiver]

Something like this maybe?

[restive goblet]

That’s a lot better than what you had before

[sacred notch]

No zol?

[restive goblet]

Do you have zol?

[maiden quiver]

309e44

[restive goblet]

ok yeah go zol Anasta raku ldv

and then either Lorsan or astar

[maiden quiver]

Oh wait sorry, zole is only 3F right now, I think I'm still missing like 3 or 4 furniture

[restive goblet]

3f is what matters most

You usually already won or lost by the time zolrath’s 9f kicks in

[twilit gulch]

R40 T42

[restive goblet]

Looks pretty good. If that doesn’t work out then try astar in the wilder team and put grez back in.

[maiden quiver]

For sure

Don't actually have a Wilder team yet but I might swap back to grez once I hit six teams

Then build one and put astar there

[restive goblet]

My poor raku team got 3% last round

even my Abrutus team got pushed down like 20% though because of the division change

[maiden quiver]

He seems fairly high RNG for

A PVP team

[restive goblet]

I’m going to wait another round before passing judgement. It faced like 90% awakened teams and it was only 27 fights

the one win it got was against Abaden lol

[maiden quiver]

Another noob question, but which path should I pick?

[restive goblet]

I don’t think there’s any way of knowing which is best

so just pick your favorite

[maiden quiver]

Oh boy, I love pointless decisions

Does it matter at all what order your teams are in ?

And one last question, is your total score an average of all teams like if 1 team is 80% and another team is 20%, is that the same as having 2 teams that are both 50%?

[obtuse mauve]

No and yes

[maiden quiver]

OK, so even if I have one team at 80 it would be better to bring that team down to 60 if it means bringing another team from 20 to 50 or 60 as well

It's my overall score will be better

[obtuse mauve]

True, but it's very hard to control, because you don't face the same teams every time. Your teams will have different rates every session, even if you don't change anything. It's hard to say if a change in rate was due to a change in the team or because your enemies changes

[maiden quiver]

Fair, the main reason I was asking is because my Luc cycle team currently uses both navanthi and Palmer and I could probably get similar if slightly weaker results by swapping out one of those units for use and another team where it might do a lot more good

[obtuse mauve]

That's a good intuition and probably correct, I only mean it's not easy to be precise about win rates

[restive goblet]

I think it depends on the ranking of the teams you beat. You gain/lose different amounts of points against enemies with different rankings.

[maiden quiver]

Yeah but there's literally no way for me to plan around that, so I'm just trying to work with the info I can actually use and the variables I can control

[restive goblet]

Yeah I don’t know if it’s better overall to build 7 good teams or 6 better teams and one garbage team

I think the answer is an eternal “it depends”

[static bone]

When it gets to 7 team i use 6 good team and whatever i have left for 7th

Ive seemed to have better luck always having 1 team holding a really good win rate, this round ive tried to split it more and have more overal solid teams and it seems about the same to me overall.

[lilac bobcat]

[maiden quiver]

Any changes I should make here?

Positioning?
Swaps? Either to make the team better OR free up a string unit for a weaker team

Sorry meant to post 2

They're sitting at 72% and 88% respectively

[restive goblet]

Anybody having any luck with Ainz + Yen comp without an awakened?

I’m thinking of splitting out Brutus

[pine ether]

i just got nevanthi ascended what is her ideal build ? and can i use her for this current buff ?

[carmine shale]

@maiden quiver I'm finding putting merlin and Joan front and brutus in position 4 is better wr

[dusk tundra]

🤠

[dusk tundra]

What does nevanthi do for this team?

[sacred notch]

Not sure if their rank is that high

[dusk tundra]

My final comps. Should finish top 50. Region 8

[restive goblet]

Nev gives heals and shielding and energy. Not as much burst defense as Desira but faster cycle

[maiden quiver]

Just general consistency I was pretty sure she could be swapped out but I wouldn't know what to swap her for, but I'd love to be able to free her up for my Wilder team

[icy spruce]

e30 Eorin > e80 Lucretia ez

Bigger tree, bigger pet, bigger investments. This guy is a beast

[lapis moth]

[maiden quiver]

So the changes helped out a ton with team 3, but 2 and 4 still suffering

[molten sparrow]

How can I improve my formations. I was told that they suck ass. I need something that's not going to get me top 60%

[granite mason]

yeah
T1 use sonja/ hodgkin for swolise
T2 use mortas for ldv, and put ainz in pos 5 mortas pos 4
t3 use silas for daimon
T4 put mishka pos1 est pos2
T5 use ldv for mehira, thoran for brutus, queen for chicken

[maiden quiver]

Def going back to grez for gb for now

That raku comp just isn't working for me

[molten sparrow]

Don't have Sonja or Hodgkin built

[lapis moth]

rip raku kren

[molten sparrow]

I could build Sonja though

[granite mason]

hodgkin E is fine just need his flag
sonja needs 9f but i dont think u have to build her up for now, use hodgkin is ok
Or use alna and put silas in t3

[molten sparrow]

Hodgkin at E is better than Asolise?

[granite mason]

Asolise will die in under 10 secs ngl
Main dmg comes from luc so i think giving her a buff is better

[frozen crest]

fr. back then a decent consistent team

and now...

[icy spruce]

Region merge killed Raku kren 😞 no budget teams allowed

[lilac bobcat]

Wrong

Have you tried asolise cycle

Asolise cycle with orthros flex

[granite mason]

L asolise

[lilac bobcat]

Ooooo

Use her in burst

Or cycle

Idk she just heals

[granite mason]

wont do much ngl

[frozen crest]

still gives good AR

%

[storm moth]

she good at L?

in cycle

[lapis moth]

decent

[storm moth]

meh mine at 69% with desi

[lapis moth]

are your twins engraved?

[storm moth]

yes

[lapis moth]

maybe I'll try 000 poverty desira

[lapis moth]

well that's also something

[storm moth]

and my desi 200

[lapis moth]

my guess they will be similar wr

[storm moth]

yeah prob

[carmine shale]

New celestial looking pretty good

He's definitely useless in ice debuff tho

[lilac bobcat]

it worked

From t90 to t49

Goat full mauler abrutus team

[granite mason]

[dusk tundra]

Rowan would be better. Even Desira can be used

Region 8. Top 50

Idk what to do about Lucy

[wise trail]

Very surprised by the resu

Results

[mortal halo]

Do you guys know a bit where to use Nevanthi?

[lapis moth]

https://www.reddit.com/r/afkarena/comments/z8egm6/pvp_meta_in_the_last_legends_championship_nov/

[mortal halo]

Not sure LC comps work for TS debuff though

[lapis moth]

thoughts on this to target some scarlet p4 bursts?

[opal bone]

[lapis moth]

[opal bone]

Put grez back in, agb recovers at 6 and 7 teams

[lapis moth]

running out of options

[opal bone]

Mine got 62 this round

[lapis moth]

wtf

[opal bone]

Perma 35-40 before

[lapis moth]

ok I'll try thanks

should I leave these as they are

[opal bone]

Where's Merlin?

[lapis moth]

thought of trying this, not really sure where to put astar

too poor for merlin

should get him in about a month

[opal bone]

I mean no Merlin and poverty Yen, can't expect much more

[lapis moth]

yep guess so

[opal bone]

I would use l atalene

Over Wutus

Maybe wutus over poverty yen

[lapis moth]

hmm, I'll give it a shot

wutus backline?

[opal bone]

Exactly 50th at the moment.

[opal bone]

Idk how well m wutus does but yea.

Can try middle backline to be safe

[lapis moth]

should I split anasta to the mauler team

kinda doing really well in thane team

[opal bone]

Not sure honestly.

[frozen crest]

mine only 40+

[opal bone]

I prefer stacking teams instead of splitting.

[frozen crest]

better than eorin at least

ur region is the real freegion, mingles

[opal bone]

Comical coming from you.

[lapis moth]

I'll try these

[opal bone]

This guy currently 100th in my region.

[frozen crest]

so bad lmfao

i reckon his 1st team is literally those 5 heroes

[opal bone]

My region is full of dumb whales.

[frozen crest]

same here

[lapis moth]

they're everywhere

[frozen crest]

this person was top 20 but now pushed behind

this person has a shitton of e80s

off meta heroes, like lucius

[lapis moth]

this guy rank 87

[frozen crest]

and just compile random heroes together kek

[lapis moth]

at least better than smart whales ig

[lapis moth]

did you gaze talene to M

[opal bone]

Maybe.

I blame @brisk urchin

[lapis moth]

she can still be useful right just not like the other awakends

[opal bone]

Very much not like the good Aws

[steady hill]

correct

but dont worry bobbalene has still her use

[quartz salmon]

Idk what to do with this team

[obtuse mauve]

Maybe add Geralt instead of daimon, he hits more frequently and invades @quartz salmon

[quartz salmon]

Good idea. He’s 000 but at least he benefits from debuff

[icy spruce]

How long till aThane?

[rustic oxide]

Good day! Is outright asking for teamcomps for TS here alright or is that better moved to lineup-help? Thanks!

[granite mason]

here
copy top or popular formation tbh

[opal bone]

Like 3.5 copies.

[rustic oxide]

Apologies for the very scuffed editing. The only team comps I've seen a lot of so far are campaign ones. So not much of an idea what TS requires. I'll take a look at the poplar formations too. Thank you!

[granite mason]

I can give you some comps:
Scarlet mishka
Gbs
Luc cycle
Dims
Atalene+Thoran+Yen+ 2 more heroes
Maulers with abrutus

[rustic oxide]

I'll look those comps up and test them out. Thank you!

[lapis moth]

raku kren seems to do better though

[opal bone]

Mine's 28% after 7

Early rounds usually suck

For me at least

[sturdy minnow]

Wich line ups should i use?

[round agate]

Intersting account

[lilac bobcat]

How

[opal bone]

Snek OP?

[lapis moth]

[static bone]

Pretty decent so far

[maiden quiver]

reposting in case anyone has some ideas for that raku team

[opal bone]

You need someone like Astar or Atalene there for this debuff.

[maiden quiver]

my atalene is only 1 copy so probably astar then, but I doubt that alone will bump me up enough from 18%

[static bone]

Astar will be better than anasta i think. Espically if they are decent investment

[maiden quiver]

she's 309

[opal bone]

L Atalene can still work. Read he debuff, you need heroes that do a lot of attacks in a short time frame.

[maiden quiver]

no engraving tho

[still heron]

Can u make her E30 ?

[maiden quiver]

not yet

I've got the cores but not the shards

[static bone]

I dont remember if it was this debuff or the other non freeze one. But i also had some luck with this team setup

Pop, astar
Lorsan, lvd, raku

[still heron]

Lol

Im always low on cores

[dusk tundra]

Especially since new heroes keep coming out

[restive goblet]

They’re like how yellow emblems used to be like two years ago

[dusk tundra]

The list keeps growing 😣

They heard my cries lol

[maiden quiver]

either way I kinda need astar for my wilder team

grez vs PoP for GB team?

This is what I'm trying so far (no results yet, forgot to set up teams properly for 6 teams lol)

[civic sage]

Astar instead of Lorsan

[maiden quiver]

what do I put in her place in team 6?

[civic sage]

I assume you mean Team 2, and Grez should be fine

[maiden quiver]

no I mean team 6 I just posted my new teams

[civic sage]

I think you need to shuffle your teams overall, do you have Haelus or no?

[maiden quiver]

yeah 309e60

[civic sage]

Surprised you have Pope built so fast

[civic sage]

Team 4: Zolrath Atalene Pope LDV Raku
Team 5: Lucretia Twins Haelus Rowan Ezizh
Team 6: Astar Queen Skriath Eirron Nevanthi
is something you can try

I have no idea if L Atalene works (mine is A) but I doubt Mingles is lying about that

[maiden quiver]

is pope fast enough for the raku team? Not sure how fast that team is losing

[civic sage]

How long does his S3 take to activate?

Isn't it at the start of the battle

should be good enough to be usable in LDV Raku, but I could be wrong

[maiden quiver]

worth a shot

I'll try that and let you know how it goes lol

the luc team had 72+ winrate before with nevanthi and and that was basically a wasted slot, swapped her out for rowan who was better for that comp, so losing pope probably won't hurt the winrate, and even if it drops it a bit if it helps bring raku up from that grizzly 18% it'd be worth overall lol

[sudden jasper]

Any idea to improve team 6? Don't have ldv

[wide wasp]

Where brutussy engraving?

[sudden jasper]

Soon

[storm moth]

@opal bone you liar agb still doesnt work

still t88 tho

[restive goblet]

My luc cycle seems to suffer when I take out haelus. Do you guys think I should replace him in the Athane team with Hodgkin or should I just throw in e+ Brutus?

[opal bone]

Literally linked screen of it working for me this morning.

It'll get better and better towards the end.

[storm moth]

it doesnt work for me smh

[opal bone]

Player dif.

[quartz salmon]

t6 is the real problem here

6%

[storm moth]

my t6 is amazing somehow

[opal bone]

My AGB back to 45%

And Random BS back to 10%

[quartz salmon]

Show me gimmi gimmi

[storm moth]

t5 isnt rn idk why

[quartz salmon]

Where your thane at smoku?

[storm moth]

303e30

15k poe and 200 cores

[quartz salmon]

Not in agb?

[storm moth]

from 30960

[quartz salmon]

Cause I’m not moving him from there no way

[storm moth]

nope

[quartz salmon]

Wr too good

Where did you put him?

[storm moth]

you can see my teams here

[quartz salmon]

Right

Mb

[storm moth]

[quartz salmon]

No wonder t6 works so well

[storm moth]

[quartz salmon]

Can I suggest something

[storm moth]

idk if i should switch grez with eorin

[storm moth]

perhaps

[quartz salmon]

Joan Eiron front, astar pos4 for t5,
T3 merlin front y’en pos5

[storm moth]

im not gonna move yen

that team was 60% wr last time

[quartz salmon]

Yh but 22 this round kinda low

[storm moth]

prob bad rng

[storm moth]

if i were to change anything it would be this tbh

[quartz salmon]

Ah nvm mine aswell dropped 20% wr

[storm moth]

[quartz salmon]

Slow connection... it’s coming.....

[storm moth]

wtf whale

[quartz salmon]

Wdym

How dare you

Wait no

I’m flattered

[storm moth]

[quartz salmon]

Same sensation as being called a cheater on csgo when actually you don’t even know how to instal hacks

[twilit gulch]

Wtf whale

[misty epoch]

Why Yenn no pos 4?

[granite mason]

Atalene where

[storm moth]

you dont know how yo install hacks?

skill issue

[storm moth]

im in top 100 again

[quartz salmon]

I guess

[granite mason]

whale

[quartz salmon]

I don’t need no atalene

[granite mason]

[quartz salmon]

Me?

[granite mason]

queen of this ts buff

[storm moth]

yes

[quartz salmon]

Just don’t look at t6

[storm moth]

im gonna use her in random bs team 7

at L

[quartz salmon]

That’s a good question

[misty epoch]

T47 atm

GBs trash

[granite mason]

atalene thoran op
u can put some bs like daimon yen morrow tasi
wr > 15%

[quartz salmon]

Fr?

Thoran does stuff?

[granite mason]

his job is giving time for talene to ult tbh

[quartz salmon]

Bruh I dropped to t78 cause of weird t6 thro

[storm moth]

[granite mason]

maybe he can cheese
i use talene in dims so idk

[granite mason]

nice team

[storm moth]

ikr

if that gives me +15% wr

ily

in not

[granite mason]

[icy spruce]

whaLe
spear boy dominance continues

[quartz salmon]

That’s crazy

Wutus shiny stars get dominated damn

[quartz salmon]

What’s your wr on that team? And region

@opal bone breaking my dreams AGAIN to get 100% on t2

[storm moth]

did you finish your tog for dd?

like for poe and shi

[civic sage]

That's because the other guy is an idiot

[static bone]

Going to use sonja, estrilda, rosa, atalane(L+) and yaga baga or whatever for team 7

[quartz salmon]

My tog? dd? I’m lost lol

[storm moth]

trilas of god for dual divinity

[quartz salmon]

Ah mb, I did 36 on that one, all the others are at 32

[storm moth]

wtf

[quartz salmon]

I could do more but meh too boring

[storm moth]

thats the hardest one

[quartz salmon]

I followed a guide on yt for 36 dd tog, guide is well done

[storm moth]

send

[quartz salmon]

I tried to do it on my own and fail last fight cause I’m dumb, gave up and looked it up

[storm moth]

or else

[quartz salmon]

Lemmi try to find it

[storm moth]

[quartz salmon]

Lmao it’s furry hippo gaming

“Guide is well done”

https://youtu.be/DPNnNkFCT80

[storm moth]

tyvm will try

[quartz salmon]

Np

[storm moth]

what comp did you use

[dusk tundra]

🥱

[storm moth]

imagine no 69

[quartz salmon]

Believe it or not but I did Saurus cycle with fereal instead of tasi

Trust

Easy easy

[storm moth]

you have saurus built?

[quartz salmon]

He’s 203

[storm moth]

wtf

[quartz salmon]

You?

Ok i was lying a bit, I used that team for 2 clears, then I did dims and last battle ainz died so I used scarlet burst after

[icy spruce]

70%-75% top 50 R38

[quartz salmon]

Ah Im in 38 too, what’s your ingame name?

[icy spruce]

Oh, nice. Iniquity in game, you?

[quartz salmon]

I’m Tonboul, you can see me struggling to stay in t100 around t80

[icy spruce]

That was me during ice debuff

You got space you can free so I can add fellow 38er?

[quartz salmon]

Ofc, 138818658

[icy spruce]

Full

[quartz salmon]

I unfriended someoen right after my message, might be slow connection.. anyways now you can (hopefully)

[icy spruce]

There we go 👍

[quartz salmon]

Cool

And I get extra comps for chap 40, noice

[storm moth]

e+

but i did it with whane/scarlet comp

sth like alna, whane, mishka, scarlet/merlin, silas

[dusk tundra]

Thoughts?

[static bone]

What r your win rates like

[dusk tundra]

Abt 50% on each with Brutus being 70-80

[static bone]

Thats not bad tbh. Where r u sitting rank wise

[dusk tundra]

6%

I’m normally around 1%

[toxic prawn]

Is mythic haelus worth using in ts?

[nocturne token]

9f and engravings are his main kits

[maiden quiver]

Might it be worth to use PoP in place of grez for alna+gb?

Alternatively I was wondering about PoP replacing Queen in 5-Pull

[maiden quiver]

Obviously it's early in, but it's looking like raku and 5pull are probably still gonna be falling behind a bit

Down to 37 and 50 now

30 and 40 and dropping xD

[maiden quiver]

My gb team has also dropped to 45

Other 3 are doing exceedingly well

[restive goblet]

2 Eorin copies from 40 faction scrolls

[maiden quiver]

it's alright, I pulled over 1500 total scrolls between blues and faction with eorin on my WL and didn't get a single copy

and that's not including the 90 or so random elites I got from the stones/cards I used as well, which also gave me 0 copies

[frozen crest]

😔

[maiden quiver]

200 of those faction scrolls were wilder btw

[frozen crest]

he be dodging your calls and texts

[maiden quiver]

on the bright side I did get 7 Morael copies from 180 gazers

[frozen crest]

wtf

[maiden quiver]

well, technically 150, but I'm at 180 now and haven't gotten an 8th

[muted river]

Any tips?

[crystal cloud]

well so i dont think you should complain 😄

[maiden quiver]

I'm not really complaining

it's just like... what are the odds?

[crystal cloud]

rng is a bitch, and not calculatable 😄

[maiden quiver]

like it's statistically really unlikely to not even get one copy lol

1500 scrolls got me 3 woke heroes too, which is pretty average luck iirc

[crystal cloud]

it is very unlikely. statistically your chance to get at least one woke is 22% with 1500 pulls, so 3 is awesome

[maiden quiver]

oh, neat then

now I feel special

and less bad about one of them being a second copy of ezizh

[crystal cloud]

1-(0,999^1500) = ~0,22 in case you wanna know 😄

[crystal cloud]

haha 😄 yes thats the price you have to pay for that luck

[maiden quiver]

Alright that 5pull team is super not working lol

I don't even know how to begin fixing that one lol

Gb team is up to 56% so I'm debating whether or not to swap out grez, was thinking kren might do well with this buff

this is the best the raku comp has ever done, thought about swapping zolrath for PoP

0 ideas for 5pull

[dim cradle]

Isn't woke 0,2% from scroll?

[frozen crest]

0.1%

[gusty valley]

Record is still held by a guildie who got 11 talene copies from 100 pulls. (Ran some simulations, and if I remember correctly thats'a about 1/2.3million)

[gusty valley]

Ehm, no, that's the chance of not getting any...

[frozen crest]

think that's the chance of getting at least 1

[gusty valley]

Correct. It's just miscalculated. Chance with that formula is 0.78, which is correct.

0.22 is the chance of not getting any.

I was unclear with my quote...

[frozen crest]

ah good point, that's why it seemed so low

[opal bone]

Raku what's your 7th team?

[frozen crest]

5p with daimon

[opal bone]

I was thinking of that, but don't want to pull Chicken out of my 6th team

[frozen crest]

would skriath do much in your 6th team?

isnt it pretty much athane carrying anyways

also what does his engraving do

[opal bone]

He buys time, and sometimes does some dmg

Engraving increases his debuff

acc+haste

[frozen crest]

oh cool

is it priority?

[opal bone]

I'll give it a try I guess.

Not really.

[frozen crest]

so u did it

to simp him or

[opal bone]

I just had the shards to spare

[frozen crest]

i see

[opal bone]

And since he was getting SI30 anyway thought it'd be decent.

Who is your 5th in 5p Daimon

[frozen crest]

who's 4th?

[crystal cloud]

they seemed to reduced it right?

[opal bone]

Oh I assumed you also had queen

[frozen crest]

dunno

[frozen crest]

ah i do have queen but not sure if im gonna use her

[opal bone]

0.1

Mines 203e33 so might as well

More stall

[frozen crest]

since she's linked with eorin, it's whether i use eorin or not and whether i will even use queen if i have her free

but 4th and 5th possibly hodg and grez/other random hero

[crystal cloud]

my formula was right, i just made a small copy failure 😄

1. change of getting no woke = 0.999 = 99,9%
2. Chance of getting no woke at 1500 pulls = 0.999^1500 = 0,22296276370290240547600114777635
3. chance of getting at least one copy is 1-0,22296276370290240547600114777635 = ~78%

sorry was too early for me, only had one coffee for now, think of getting another one 😄

[frozen crest]

anyways 3 from 1500 pulls is 12%

[opal bone]

@frozen crest I added MMortas to my Mthane team, curious if he'll even ult.

[frozen crest]

prob still will

also speaking of which, why not mortas in ainz and yen in team 7 or 6

could possibly increase wr

[opal bone]

I'm not going to soil Yen with rejects.

She deserves top winrate.

[frozen crest]

what's her wr rn

[opal bone]

Right now only 78%, lowest she's had this debuff.

But my second highest is 60% so yea.

[frozen crest]

i see

have u experimented

like removing ainz for someone else?

since id imagine her carrying 90% of the rounds

[opal bone]

No, Ainz partners perfectly with Yen.

[frozen crest]

ic

[opal bone]

Easy stun 15s in

And decent dmg

[quartz salmon]

[frozen crest]

who carrying that team

kekw

[opal bone]

||Deez nuts||

[gusty valley]

pre-coffee maths is just asking for trouble. 😆

[crystal cloud]

100% agree 😄

[wide wasp]

@quartz salmon athane OP

[quartz salmon]

I might slit gbs and athane aswell, with what I have left t6 won’t get me more than 20%

[wide wasp]

I tried that before e60 with lb team and got like 35% on 5teams

[quartz salmon]

Ouch

I just got e60 today so hopefully I’ll get 60% min

[storm moth]

wtf i got his e60 today too

[quartz salmon]

Does this seem ok ?

[frozen crest]

arthur not gonnna buff anyone there

ig he can tank

[quartz salmon]

Wasn’t sure who else to put to make athane survive

If you have any recommendations

[quartz salmon]

Yeah we were both missing 500 cores lol, lost sigils saving us

[frozen crest]

his ult is a barricade iirc so ok ig

but skreg might be nice

for the energy per second thing

[quartz salmon]

Yeah but He’s only 009 so idk how he does

Without fast ult

[frozen crest]

ult doesnt matter

what matters is his 9f

read it

u could take his si to 10 or 20 if u want him to ult

[lapis moth]

try arthur in the raku kren team and joan+astar in the thane team

[storm moth]

i didnt use sigils smh

[lapis moth]

u used sigils

[storm moth]

for cores? no

but for poe

[lapis moth]

lol

I guess for cores wouldn't be too bad if it helped you secure t100

[storm moth]

[granite mason]

wut ur wr

[storm moth]

51

[granite mason]

show teams wr

[storm moth]

but that was before i got whane to e60

[quartz salmon]

Ofc 200 cores in the bank, no regrets

[lapis moth]

[quartz salmon]

Look at this doode

[still heron]

Lame

[quartz salmon]

https://tenor.com/view/heart-crack-heart-crack-rose-ed-gif-17236120

[storm moth]

show ym first

too late

i cant show

[wide wasp]

No..... Best to use 4 random LBers

[quartz salmon]

i'll do that + skreg 9f, works well with athane

might drop out of t100 cause of that tho

[lapis moth]

[wide wasp]

Oh yeah

[twilit gulch]

When ur whale but suck at making teams

[frozen crest]

he shouldve put ezizh on 4 😔

[twilit gulch]

Stacks all his awakeneds into 2 teams

[frozen crest]

where is solise

[still heron]

Look at this fücker

[twilit gulch]

Best team

[lapis moth]

pfft only black pet

bear needs to teach him how to whale better

[quartz salmon]

Get better nub

[dusk tundra]

Almost Same stars too

[quartz salmon]

Yeah lol pur rng

[still heron]

Mingles Estrilda is not E30

[opal bone]

Carried by Athane.

Would be languishing in 1% otherwise.

And never meet.

Could've e30'd Estrilda over Chicken, but eh.

[quartz salmon]

Seems like e30 actually made the difference, my Estrilda survived scarlet ult

[quartz salmon]

Do her next and let’s fight 100% rng

stars differ on mishka and scarlet but whatever

[opal bone]

Not sure why I have that pet on.

Should've had lion.

[quartz salmon]

Yeah why do we have those pets on for one of the best teams

[opal bone]

I've always had lion for it.

Maybe it didn't save properly.

Yea I don't have lion on at all.

It's there for 7 team.

[quartz salmon]

I had the same lol

I just recently put him lvl6 so that’s probably why I left him on t7

Anyways now he’s on scarlet burst should be better

[quartz salmon]

Im glad you shared this I also spilt GBs and Whane and I’m climbing fast. Thanks

[storm moth]

show teams

[quartz salmon]

It’ll take a while my connection is super slow atm (workers broke my line )

[storm moth]

breh

that sucks

[quartz salmon]

That was surprising fast

[storm moth]

rosa for whane?

[quartz salmon]

Whane doing slightly worst than scarlet burst but that team is just weird

Yes

[storm moth]

ogey

will try

[quartz salmon]

Whane ults so many times with skreg and Rosa it’s a gorgeous scene

[storm moth]

idk i dont have 9f on skreg

its still good tho

[quartz salmon]

Theres some evil force at work here

[storm moth]

mf too op

[quartz salmon]

Notice how we both get 71% on Whane team, same as general wr

[storm moth]

yeah

[quartz salmon]

When 9f ?

[storm moth]

tommorow

[quartz salmon]

Ohhhhh

Nice

[storm moth]

i will finish that quiz thing

and get 5k poe from there

[quartz salmon]

Im still missing 5f, but 10 cards available

You are carding him ig

[storm moth]

yeah

why wouldnt you tho

[still heron]

What a hoe

[storm moth]

[opal bone]

Why are you not carding Athane if you can

[storm moth]

ikr?

[quartz salmon]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-yoda-patience-sw3-gif-21070142

[still heron]

[quartz salmon]

5f too much for me, I’ll settle for 4

[storm moth]

im gonna use 5 cards

[still heron]

CARD HIM

[quartz salmon]

And if I do his CR will be over Scarlets, I can’t have that as a Scarlet simp

[storm moth]

[dusk tundra]

Card him

[opal bone]

What is the point of having the ability to card a hero.

If you're not going to card the best hero in your box.

??

When are you ever going to card anyone by that logic.

Jokes aside, if 9F doesn't get you t50, it's probably whatever if you don't card him.

Since you're not losing t100 anway.

But hoarding 10+ cards not healthy.

[quartz salmon]

I just don’t wanna use half my cards for Whane, but I do use them

[opal bone]

You're just losing out.

[storm moth]

HES YOUR BEST HERO

[quartz salmon]

I carded merlin so I don’t have 10 cards

[storm moth]

[quartz salmon]

Scarlet is. Scarlet

[opal bone]

Carding Merlin to 9F is fine.

Just don't hoard double digit cards.

When you got good heroes to card.

[storm moth]

i need 6 more cards atm

[quartz salmon]

Aight imma heads or tail it

Heads I card

[wide wasp]

Smort

[quartz salmon]

You lose suckers

[wide wasp]

How do we know u didnt cheat?

[quartz salmon]

Trust me

But actually don’t trust me

I don’t even know my own language you win

Face is heads

[storm moth]

[quartz salmon]

The deed has been done

[wide wasp]

Sheesh.. Urs now better than mine

[still heron]

Good boi

Yes

I saw way higher wr with him at +20+

Mine is still 000

[storm moth]

mine not so good

[still heron]

That should work ngl

[wide wasp]

What rank ar u?

This debuff gb is bad

[storm moth]

not good

[still heron]

Imo give him a try

[wide wasp]

I have like 12 less than u....

[storm moth]

[obtuse mauve]

Oden is good, but grez sucks. My gb Frontline is alna and m+30 tawlene. Kinda works, with 55% wr, t64, r37

[opal bone]

Noob.

[storm moth]

idek what im doing wrong

maybe pets

[opal bone]

You're probably going to climb a lot first round tomorrow.

[storm moth]

4h and my whane 30960

so that should do sth

[wide wasp]

What to run t7?

Literally none

[lapis moth]

e30 chicken why

[opal bone]

Because investing in an unit that already has good investment is smart.

Also because 5p is fine in TS as 6/7 team

[lapis moth]

but chicken sucks in pvp

[opal bone]

Why?

[lapis moth]

isn't it better to e30 something for 3-4 teams instead like albedo or ferael maybe

[opal bone]

Not really

[obtuse mauve]

Chicken is actually quite strong in this debuff

[opal bone]

e30 Albedo without e60 is troll

Ferael meh

[lapis moth]

just never heared of it being a prio before

[misty epoch]

5p is good in TS?

[civic sage]

e30 Skriath

[obtuse mauve]

I still lost, ofc, but it's something

[opal bone]

What prio? I got all my prios?

[opal bone]

[misty epoch]

Still TS

[opal bone]

Not sure what you are talking about, it's fine in TS as 6/7 team for somebody who has no 6/7 teams

[misty epoch]

Fair enough

[opal bone]

Like what are you going to run instead that is better

If you're not a spender

[misty epoch]

But why invest in chicken if it's gonna eventually fade out as you get more teams built

I'd rather just save the shards and invest in someone who's better long term

[opal bone]

Again, why not? It sees use in Campaign, TS, CR etc

[restive goblet]

5 points away from 7 teams

but my team 7 kind of blows

[misty epoch]

[opal bone]

Yen Dims 90% this round.

[wide wasp]

Ok...

[civic sage]

Nevanthi/Pope?

[lapis moth]

estrilda

[opal bone]

I have 11k shards.

[wide wasp]

Athane

[opal bone]

Nivea and Pope will have in a few weeks.

[dusk tundra]

By the time I get pope the meta will change

[maiden quiver]

now at 9 morael copies in 190 gazers

streak continues

[twilit gulch]

I feel like the more u spend the more likely it is u hit pity

Therefore I'm f2p now

[restive goblet]

your luck will even out when it takes you 50 pulls per copy to build Awakened Morael

[maiden quiver]

T_T

[misty epoch]

Awk Morael?

[maiden quiver]

don't you do that. Don't you say such things.

[restive goblet]

she’s coming out as soon as I finish ascending regular Morael

[misty epoch]

Stonks

[rigid comet]

Someone send me ts comps

[restive goblet]

Last day before rewards

[twilit gulch]

Gonna try 5 pull

[sacred notch]

Someone send me money

[lilac bobcat]

Idk just get me to t100 I'm fine

[toxic prawn]

Si30 suggestions?

[void bramble]

for TS/pvp I would prioritize Merlin then maybe Astar or ATalene. For campaign, Thoran is top priority. Once you ascend him, Haelus is really strong at 30960

[frozen crest]

i heard that charm comp in TS is OP

[lapis moth]

yes, best use of 30960 zol

[opal bone]

Campaign charmizard in TS

Tbf he must be t50ish.

[lapis moth]

he was t25 so he must know what he's doing!

[opal bone]

[frozen crest]

he's top 23 now

ive 0 fucking idea how he does it lmao

[opal bone]

Looks like no t50 again.

[lapis moth]

you need to whane better

[opal bone]

How does one Whane without Whane?

[frozen crest]

what rank u now

[opal bone]

54

[storm moth]

im skill issued

at least im in a t100

[frozen crest]

it's possible

if u believe

make last changes good

[opal bone]

Pointless without an Aw team.

I already have the beat I can.

[steady hill]

if that charm works in the t50 i wonder how charm will work in region 4

[muted river]

Any tips ?

[lapis moth]

hope it stays this way

[lilac bobcat]

[opal bone]

[opal bone]

More like

[lilac bobcat]

Nakoruru will do a special job

[opal bone]

[lilac bobcat]

Stop someone from ulting once

Isabella gonna carry

[dusk tundra]

I’m not the best with PvP teams, what adjustments should I make?

[opal bone]

I need my BS teams to squeeze maybe 10% more win rate.

Mortas seems to have worked for pleb Athane though.

[lilac bobcat]

I see combo

[lapis moth]

why test new team on the final round though

[lilac bobcat]

Why not

[lapis moth]

cuz rewards

[lilac bobcat]

It's just 1 team

And I'm already at t100

[lapis moth]

I see

[twilit gulch]

[lone void]

Doing almost as good as Ainz

[twilit gulch]

Ur ainz team isn't doing good?

[lapis moth]

oden tele athalia and silas ult oden

[lone void]

I have Yen in another team so nope, 50ish % on the last round

[opal bone]

This is so rigged. I win 6/7 battles and only get 8 points.

[misty epoch]

Probably lower rank opponents

[opal bone]

True, only half the teams had Aws

usually it's every team

[lapis moth]

how is fat yen performing in rift sir

[twilit gulch]

50% not bad tbh

I was hoping my team 7 could get 10%

But seems like it's gonna end up with 0% again

[opal bone]

I refuse to push without a proper cycle team.

Not worth the hassle.

[lapis moth]

are you missing ezizh

[opal bone]

And Haelus

[lapis moth]

cycle is strong without haelus

wanna know how an invested yen performs as a haelus sub in the atalene team

[opal bone]

Not great honesty

[twilit gulch]

Just use my comps

[lapis moth]

wish I could use your beacons

[opal bone]

Bear you got carried by Kraken beacons.

[lapis moth]

share comps please though, I am curious

[civic sage]

Use Swolise

I stopped at 4 teams when I didn’t have Haelus though

[lapis moth]

literally got next level badges as my retries ran out could have pushed a lot more if I had another week or so

[opal bone]

I was at 5 teams before you, did same.

[civic sage]

Still ahead of you now

[opal bone]

You have haelus

And wokelene

Hopefully I get haelus before next trift ends.

[toxic prawn]

I suck with 5+ teams

R39 I’m server 970

[lilac bobcat]

Let's keep this up so i can stay t50

[twilit gulch]

Lion might be better with scarlet tbh

[lilac bobcat]

Also I don't use lucretia cycle. That sht won't work where I'm at

[granite mason]

krakomp

[storm moth]

these comps are floor 800?

[twilit gulch]

[lapis moth]

Thank you

[misty epoch]

Anything can work with kraken beacons

[storm moth]

i mean sure

[lilac bobcat]

I run trift without tank

[lapis moth]

maybe Haelus worth getting to M before doing some stars for engraving

[storm moth]

but there is a limit no?

[twilit gulch]

My server whale has all 5 beacons 200

[misty epoch]

Most stats come from beacons so I don't see why

[twilit gulch]

Only at 680

Idk if he's not trying or what

[obtuse mauve]

7 fights: 4 wins, 3 losses. Result: -6 points /rant

[twilit gulch]

Getting shafted at 7 teams again

[static bone]

I was up to 47 before my highest of any event so far. But currnely back down to 60

I can do 6 teams but my 7th team is always trash. And i never understand how my trash team never plays another trash team

I look at the histoy and its fighting awakened teams

[lapis moth]

how is this winning lol

[static bone]

Im at a 54 wr with team 7 having 0wr

If only i had a decent team 7

[restive goblet]

Wtf I was rank 30 at the end of the round last night

and 75 now

[misty epoch]

Show opponent's team

[static bone]

Oh boy im at 56 with 11 matches left.

Pray for me

[twilit gulch]

I'm at 56 with 12 left

[storm moth]

8 battles left

[misty epoch]

Prayge

[storm moth]

its almost impossible tbh

[misty epoch]

Yea, sadly

But 1st round right you were t100 right?

[twilit gulch]

Rip

I thought u engraved AThane?

[storm moth]

yes

[storm moth]

i did 30960 him

but that didnt work ig

[misty epoch]

At least something

[storm moth]

yeah

[twilit gulch]

My AThane at 76%

[storm moth]

my whane is at 88%

[static bone]

If i had thane i think id be top 50 for sure

[twilit gulch]

My one win lol

Thoran cheese in TS

[static bone]

Im working on getting him now. Just need like 8 more copies

[lapis moth]

see thoran cheese works

[storm moth]

8 more bruh

[static bone]

Right lolol

[misty epoch]

'Just' 8 copies

[static bone]

I made brutus and my first and only so far

I have no complaints

[lapis moth]

I think M SI30 will be usable in 6-7 teams, maybe earlier depending on debuff

[static bone]

My problem is i was piss poor with my card pulls when awakened first came out

I have l+ talane, l+ ezizh

So thats what like 5 or 6 wasted copies there

[opal bone]

Get good.

Wait I'm 84th from 54th

[storm moth]

i hate this region

[opal bone]

Me too

[static bone]

I need like 2 big wins and then no loss in points to break top 50 i think

[opal bone]

cracking 40-60 is actually pain.

You rather hover 60-70 if you can't make t50 anyway

[static bone]

I thought maybe them L awakens could snag a victory randomly

I was wrong

[storm moth]

maybe if i get ldv i will be able to get t100

[dusk tundra]

My weakest links 😢. I added Kren in team 4 and it ranked from 55% to 30%. Maybe morael or Skriath would have performed better. No idea what to do with team 6 and 7

I should have put Mishka in team 4 instead of Kren

[static bone]

I agree with that

Miskha looks like she would have worked there

[static bone]

Rank52 with 5 left lol

So close and so far

[restive goblet]

8 points behind t50 with 6 fights left 🫣

[maiden quiver]

Any advice for those 2 bad teams?

[static bone]

To late now

This should be last battles

[maiden quiver]

Damn, only got 4%

[obtuse mauve]

Discord r37 squad 😁

Not nice, though

[static bone]

46th with 1 battle left

[wide coral]

Rank 41

[civic sage]

R37 too easy

[misty epoch]

Not bad, R35

[obtuse mauve]

Region?

[wide coral]

R35

[obtuse mauve]

Can't argue against that 😅

[static bone]

First top 50 placment. Gainz

[lone void]

@twilit gulch

[twilit gulch]

[twilit gulch]

Oh I made t50

Nice

[lone void]

[quartz salmon]

How is dims highest wr

Scarlet burst 68%

[red apex]

Logged in to see my acc get kicked out of top 100 with only 7 fights left. Logged in again later and barely make it into top 100 lol

[lone void]

Ainz really sucked without Yen

[wide wasp]

Hello

[lilac bobcat]

T50

[wide wasp]

Ill take 20%

[wide wasp]

Take raku and daimon out of t5 and make them ur t6/7 carries and put some support in t5

[ocean belfry]

guys can you help me?

[wide wasp]

Sure

[lone void]

The round is over and I finished t48

[ocean belfry]

what can I do to have better deck?

[lone void]

#classic-questions

Ah

[wide wasp]

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@storm moth at what amount of points did u finish?

[obtuse mauve]

You in r37 too? What's you IGN?

[wide wasp]

Shitt... Im in 38... But ign is same as here

I was in 67, so i got confused

[lapis moth]

give tips pls, sir

only 8%

[wide wasp]

Used thoran stall flora

Thoran 5p xD

[lilac bobcat]

Tf

Stop giving sht comp

[lapis moth]

nice thx, I copy

[wide wasp]

Yes

[lilac bobcat]

Tf is a 5p thoran

This isn't campaign

[wide wasp]

20%

[lapis moth]

5p stall is best comp sir

[wide wasp]

https://tenor.com/view/dirty-docks-shawty-triflin-shawty-triflin-she-gif-22455514

[lilac bobcat]

More like failure

[wide wasp]

Last time i checked 20% is more than 8

[lapis moth]

^

[storm moth]

6226

[ocean belfry]

Lucius is good?

[obtuse mauve]

Thoran cheese actually works in this debuff, at least in my region. It's not reliable, ofc, but it happens

[lilac bobcat]

Last time I check there's many region in ts

[ocean belfry]

somone have nice guide?

[wide wasp]

Hes in higher region than me tho

[lapis moth]

lucifer best hero game

[wide wasp]

Damn.. I have 24 less

[storm moth]

[lilac bobcat]

And 2 is older than 3 but 3 is harder

Your logic?

[wide wasp]

Yes

Im sorry master

[lilac bobcat]

I'm put your ideas and comp into my infinibag

[ocean belfry]

What can I change in my deck?

[obtuse mauve]

I imagine sometimes thoran is the only hero you have to build your 7th team upon