treasure-scramble

[frozen crest]

what region r u on

[remote moat]

R29 and r30

[frozen crest]

i see

[remote moat]

Oh frost pet on that raku setup

Slow it down

[lime zinc]

Just copy my 6% WR scarlet

[remote moat]

Lol 😆

[obtuse mauve]

General thoughts about this debuff: Zol, Lyca and other early burst are mostly wasted in this debuff. You can't do almost no damage for several seconds. Also no shields, so I'd go for stacking healing and battle-long cc/damage. Also limited energy, so relying on consecutive ults (aka scarlet, Luc) not great.

[oblique kestrel]

You seem to be doing really well. Can you post your pets along?

[storm moth]

another round of ts that idc about anymore

[remote moat]

Owch nope an nope, hopefully those teams do better, we're strong yesterday getting smashed this morning

[static bone]

Team 1 black rare, team 2 was the frozen tundra epic, team 3 white rare, team 4 big fire epic, team 5 green rare

[remote moat]

@static bone ca u post those again after 50 games? Like to see how it pans out over the day.

[static bone]

It the ts round reset while i was alseep so i can post todays number when it finishes. I did make a cpl changes to team 4 and 5

[remote moat]

Cool, always like bouncing ideas

[remote moat]

This one's rougher then most

[static bone]

Here is 20 battles today. I can update at 50

[remote moat]

👍

[static bone]

The change to the brutus team i made looks like it paid dividends

[oblique kestrel]

Thank you 👍🏻

[remote moat]

Anyone figure something for lucretia? She seems a bit wasted on this on

[static bone]

Only that cycle with alna seems to hold any type of win rate unless u have a ton of super invested heros not being used to make some sort of funky team

[static bone]

Np

[wise trail]

I really want to see how that Brutus team performs with more time

[static bone]

This is at 32 battles. My last team is killing me. And cycle fell hard this run to.

[wise trail]

The gb comp is so flexible this round it's kinda cool. Thanks for the update crow I think I'll try the abrutus comp this next round

[restive goblet]

I moved ferael to the front and now I fell like 45 places. Could be rng but I’m definitely moving him back to check.

[wise trail]

Just need one more above 50% win rate and I think I should be able to climb past 3%

Hopefully that Abrutus comp that crow has will help

[storm moth]

hendi usable without his 3f?

just at 200 A

[crystal cloud]

Any tips for the 2 bad teams ? Tried a few things yesterday and today but nothing worked

[granite mason]

noice geralt btw

[twilit gulch]

Ikr

[gusty valley]

I'm just getting more and more certain there's only three good teams in this debuff. 😄

(Or, well, with enough graveborns built enough, there could actually be four...)

[crystal cloud]

So no tips for at least a better win rate?😂

[misty epoch]

Experiment went well, t44 -> t32

[misty epoch]

What's your rank right now? How does that Ainz comp have such a high wr lol

[wise trail]

I think ainz comp is better with ezio

[storm moth]

that 5th team not good

[alpine grove]

Wouldn't ldv be good in that 5th team

[storm moth]

he would yes

but

i dont have him

[alpine grove]

Wat

[storm moth]

what

[alpine grove]

Have you bought different stuff with your coins or just haven't played long enough

[storm moth]

i bought merlin

and gwyn + chests once

im gonna try this now

[twilit gulch]

[storm moth]

yen a budget ldv frfr

[twilit gulch]

yen better ainz

[storm moth]

at least my gbs are amazing

and ainz too

[twilit gulch]

what ur rank

[storm moth]

10 points off top 100

this region is so ass

[alpine grove]

Have you spent money for more tg

[storm moth]

no

[twilit gulch]

lol wtf

ur region is free

[static bone]

@wise trail @remote moat here is what i ended up with after 50. Cycle team dropped off from yesterday pretty hard. And i still cant seem to find any decent 5th team. But that brutus team seemed to hold its own pretty well.

[lapis moth]

where estrilda e30

[storm moth]

how is it free @twilit gulch

[remote moat]

@static bone yuup, having the same issues today

[twilit gulch]

actually nvm

everyone t50 has like 2 awakeneds

[storm moth]

yeah

[remote moat]

I'm happy with 1 or 2% at this point but under 30% for a team is frustrating

0 awakened 😆

[static bone]

This whole battle round i fluctuated from 55 to 75

[remote moat]

Region?

[static bone]

I think i finished 75 which is where i started

36

[misty epoch]

Give shards then

[wise trail]

@static bone 64% is still dope

[alpine grove]

I’m top 22% :/

[lapis moth]

[static bone]

Yeah im really happy with that team

[remote moat]

Nice

[alpine grove]

region 23 btw (I don’t know why I thought I started the game back in February but my region suggests otherwise)

[misty epoch]

[remote moat]

@alpine grove looks like u got a bad merger

[wise trail]

@static bone I'll post some comps next round if I get anything above 50%

[alpine grove]

I was region 41 before the merger

Which was still considered an early one

[misty epoch]

You spent them before taking ss so you don't have to give to me, how sneaky

[static bone]

Alright cool

[storm moth]

give me your cores

[lapis moth]

impatient with thane

[storm moth]

im not gonna engrave my thane untill hes 9f i think

[storm moth]

yes i need that much

[lapis moth]

e60 > furniture imo

[alpine grove]

You gonna take him to e80?

[storm moth]

+2k i have

maybe a bit less but eh

[lapis moth]

maybe but probably not now

[opal bone]

Wtf is this 90% gb win rate bullshit when my agb with e60 Oden and grez is 70

[remote moat]

@static bone think that comp would work with e60 raku instead of wrutus

[storm moth]

daimon op

[remote moat]

?

[lapis moth]

you are matched against higher ranked opponents

[alpine grove]

Worth engraving him? I’m boutta take him to +30

[storm moth]

no dont

it was a mistake

[static bone]

I havent had any good teams with raku yet with this buff

[storm moth]

i want a engraving reset

[remote moat]

Nah, still think tenor is better for gb

Trez

[opal bone]

I'm low t100, he's like 1% I think

[storm moth]

yes

[opal bone]

And it's massive investment/comp dif

[storm moth]

10 points from t100

[lapis moth]

I thought you were around t50

[twilit gulch]

Idk if Ill end up t50

My 7 team sucks ass

[misty epoch]

Damn ended t29

Visiting the whale land

[opal bone]

I fell after region path merge.

[storm moth]

region merge was so ass

i hate it

[opal bone]

Path merge

Not region

[storm moth]

just when i was comfortable in top100

they had to merge regions

[storm moth]

yes but im talking about regions

[lapis moth]

hows that 200 sonja working for you

should I try 000 sonja instead of hendrick

[opal bone]

I 303e60d my Anasta, hopefully she does well for me.

[storm moth]

@misty epoch also why dont you use 203 hendi for that silas

[twilit gulch]

Try my team

[misty epoch]

She has decent dmg, usually 1/5 of Thane's dmg which is pretty good for tank with low invest

[misty epoch]

She needs 9f tbh

[opal bone]

[storm moth]

mingles what region are you

[misty epoch]

Even in losses she does good dmg

[opal bone]

38

[storm moth]

oh so we are together

[misty epoch]

Meanwhile Estrilda

[lapis moth]

It's the same team only different placements e0 thane sucks

[misty epoch]

Utter 0

[lapis moth]

nice

[misty epoch]

My Hendi is 100 lmao

[storm moth]

bruh

[opal bone]

I started today 58th, now I just fell a few points under 100.

[twilit gulch]

Placements matter tho

[misty epoch]

Too many heroes need 9f

[opal bone]

Yes

I'm going back to poe from twisted

[lapis moth]

I will try it thanks

[storm moth]

idk if i should go back to chests or stick with cores

[opal bone]

I'd stick with cores.

[misty epoch]

Show box

[opal bone]

You'll always need e60s, and if not, e65

[lapis moth]

are you buying monthly chests

these give me enough reds tbh

[storm moth]

im fully f2p for 2-3 months now

[lapis moth]

rip

[misty epoch]

Take cores, you only really need Astar +30 so it's fine to skip reds

[opal bone]

Vegan f2p, like raku.

[storm moth]

i need chicken and eironn +30 soon too

[opal bone]

You don't

[misty epoch]

Poe hoe is vegan gluten-free2p

[civic sage]

Cores from the noble is good

[storm moth]

for camp i do

idk about eironn tho

[misty epoch]

Chicken not really, not until 41 imo

[civic sage]

You don't really need either for a while

[storm moth]

i remember hybrid saying that he needed him somewhere in ch40

[opal bone]

40-20

[storm moth]

yeah

[lapis moth]

for 1 round just merc lol

[storm moth]

eh maybe

[lapis moth]

good to know, I'll skip it too

[opal bone]

Do you have e33 queen?

[storm moth]

no

[storm moth]

you can see my box here

[opal bone]

Then you can't merc chicken

[lapis moth]

[misty epoch]

What is that logic lmao

[civic sage]

You don't need e33 Queen

e33 is just for CR

[opal bone]

Even then, you probably need 203e30 eironn at least

[misty epoch]

e33 is for CR

[storm moth]

isnt e33 queen for cr

yeah

[civic sage]

Yes

e33 has nothing to do with Campaign

Campaign even 000 can work for a while

[misty epoch]

My queen is fine at e0 245 deficit

[storm moth]

thats fine

i think

i just need to whale 8k more shards

[lapis moth]

I see you really need shards

[storm moth]

[civic sage]

203e0 Eirron @storm moth

for 40-20

[storm moth]

so im good

[opal bone]

I simmed with better team and rc

Didn't work until I Merced an eironn

[lapis moth]

buy daily from shop and also get monthly chests

[storm moth]

im f2p

[misty epoch]

Meh, I need everything

[storm moth]

and i dont want to spend

and im buying daily

[misty epoch]

Skill issue

[opal bone]

[storm moth]

i need gear for them tho

[lapis moth]

not bad this team

[restive granite]

Are there any guides or anything for TS? It sounds like the best teams change frequently?

[twilit gulch]

Best guide is copy other ppl

[restive granite]

HAHA.

[misty epoch]

[restive granite]

So, to see what the people who are at the top of the leaderboard are running with, you just follow them and see their teams?

[remote moat]

Uh yeh except it's mostly whales so gl

[restive granite]

I was just hoping to improve somewhat. I'm just at 22% right now?

[solemn sage]

40th

[remote moat]

@restive granite better off bouncing ideas here

[restive granite]

I'm pretty unclear on how the whole thing works, to be honest - for example, I don't even know whether which path you take matters.

[solemn sage]

You only fight people who took the same path as you

until 7 teams, then everyone who gets that far fights eachother

[restive granite]

Ah. OK. So there's not a way to really know what teams to put up because it's PVP? I think I didn't realize that. HAHAHA

[opal bone]

Wasn't it 5 teams?

[sacred notch]

So in short, it doesn't matter what path u pick

[opal bone]

It definitely does though.

At the very least for week 1 rewards

[sacred notch]

Technically but u can't know what other people in your region pick

[hasty scaffold]

Sometimes you can clutch to a higher rewards if you took the easy path in the first week

[opal bone]

Red felt Whaley last buff, swapped to blue, got best finish post merge.

Informed decision.

[twilit gulch]

I feel like I always fight the same people regardless of what path I took

[opal bone]

I see.

[sacred notch]

You make informed decisions. I just be doing random shit

https://tenor.com/view/we-are-not-the-same-andrew-cuomo-saturday-night-live-we-are-different-dont-compare-us-gif-20503184

[opal bone]

I need to if I want to compete for t100 f2p and Awakenedless.

[sacred notch]

Get ya money up not ya funny up

[opal bone]

@tranquil heath Help, your guild member is trying to scam me of my hard earned cash.

[sacred notch]

https://tenor.com/view/kid-watching-sipping-tea-aint-saying-nonfin-aint-saying-nothing-gif-17427445

[steady hill]

nice region 4 ftw

[patent gulch]

Any suggestions on a better team 5

[tranquil heath]

We appreciate all charitable donations to the Nihilum Whale Fund

[lilac bobcat]

[fading osprey]

If u have talene, use her instead of astar

[patent gulch]

Only change?

[fading osprey]

Yea I used this team but with skri instead of frampton and had constant 50+% wr

But fram should be better

[patent gulch]

Okay. Thanks. Hopefully that sorts that out

Any idea what your gunna do for a decent team 6? Lol

I’m completely stumped. 6 is so many

[fading osprey]

Most likely I'll go for zol anasta as base

If u want this is my Wutus team atm

[patent gulch]

Team 6 is just literally random heroes.

[patent gulch]

Joan and Ezio work way better in Dime comp for me

[fading osprey]

Last time I used this at team 6, but it's only like 30% wr

[fading osprey]

I replace them by yen and geralt and I have 60% on both comp

[patent gulch]

My Witcher heroes aren’t well built…

[fading osprey]

Yea they need some investment

[patent gulch]

You think Zap instead of Athalia would be fine?

[fading osprey]

Atha is plain better this debuff imo but u would have to try

[lilac bobcat]

T5 so awful

[fading osprey]

Is the new mauler any good this debuff ?

[lilac bobcat]

Can't test bc this debuff Dr is ass

Need to get rid of that dr so his Dr shines

[fading osprey]

Yea I guess it kinda negates it's main skill

[lilac bobcat]

His Dr and debuff Dr works the same

[fading osprey]

Hopefully next ts he will be useful

[lilac bobcat]

Fire debuff is better than this one

Lucretia will be used again

[fading osprey]

U can't do anasta grez and some gb for team 5 ?

[misty epoch]

That's what I am doing, it's been working well enough for me

t29 r35

[muted river]

My random bs has tgw highest wr lol

[lilac bobcat]

Wr doesn't matter unless t100

[lilac bobcat]

Nope. Anasta sucks too

Gonna try this

We will stall for athalia

I think I need ferael for this one

But let's see it first

I don't have vyloris

So whatever

[sacred notch]

@misty epoch can u show ur 7 teams? I'm trynna copy u since ur rank shot up

[lilac bobcat]

Copying

[sacred notch]

https://tenor.com/view/i-aint-got-time-for-all-this-lilo-ruthless-s1e16-running-out-of-time-gif-24728413

[low iron]

Speaking of shooting up, hopefully this keeps.

[lilac bobcat]

No it wont

[low iron]

Ha, probably not.

[dusk tundra]

Doing pretty good

[carmine shale]

T39, idk what I'm gonna do when we hit 6-7 teams

[sacred notch]

https://tenor.com/view/nope-fuck-this-shit-im-out-gif-7320840

[opal bone]

@storm moth

Show win rates

I'm about to send a letter of complaint to lilith.

[crystal cloud]

how have you done this ? 😄

[patent gulch]

AFKit, it’s a bot.

Easily accessible from the AFKHelper discord.

[crystal cloud]

thanks

[wise trail]

Team 1 is just ainz team. Not the best win rates. Still searching for a strong team 3

[storm moth]

[opal bone]

I'm mad.

GBs much better investment, same wr, Scarlet better investment, much worse wr.

Also only missing Twins 3F but much worse Lucy wr

What is this bs?

[frozen crest]

how long before u get ldv?

also when did u get A Athane

[frozen crest]

maybe mishka has higher cbr?

[opal bone]

Does not

[frozen crest]

ic

region diff then

[storm moth]

im at 200k coins and 30/60 atm

so a month

[opal bone]

We are same region

[storm moth]

[frozen crest]

we are?

[opal bone]

And I actually fell to 1% last night

[opal bone]

Poe hoe and I

[frozen crest]

ah

[frozen crest]

gruelling month

how much did u spend to get A Athane

or did u somehow get lucky

[opal bone]

Both

[storm moth]

i got him in 230-240 cards

f2p

[opal bone]

[frozen crest]

hmm

[opal bone]

Same luck as Skippy

[frozen crest]

path diff then

[storm moth]

[opal bone]

Path was very good to me.

Switched to blue this round.

Got best placement since merge

[storm moth]

[opal bone]

Was like 15 points from t50 at half time.

[frozen crest]

or people still dont know jackshit about what to run

[frozen crest]

o yea how far are u from an A woke

or did u get alene

[opal bone]

I am close to 8th Athane copy

Yes, I gazed some Atalene earlier on

She is M

[frozen crest]

hmm

thats unfortunate

[misty epoch]

@sacred notch

[opal bone]

@frozen crest What are you BSing for 6th team?

[frozen crest]

mooler bs

wont perform at peak but pretty ok ig

lacking too much 9fs

[opal bone]

This looks sad.

Maybe I should run M 200 Athane and Eorin

[granite mason]

run vurk

[opal bone]

[steady hill]

region 4

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1030038863143510066/1047438170347798578/Cloudz86826132.jpeg

[nocturne token]

whale wr

[steady hill]

no, u

and theres no whales in banana only plebs

[nocturne token]

one of us plebs

[wide wasp]

@misty epoch best WR i could get...

[misty epoch]

Why don't you put Athane in a proper team?

He is the carry and you put him in a random bs team lol

What's the point to build awk if you're gonna put them in random bs

[lapis moth]

athane sucks without engraving

[frozen crest]

^

these people have athanes but no investment

kekw

[steady hill]

cries at no wokethane

[frozen crest]

it's a privilege to not have woke thane

we get brutus instead

[steady hill]

i have wutus and M+ wolise

fck athane gonna get abaden next

[frozen crest]

[jaunty prairie]

what path to choose

just made 25-1

[frozen crest]

doesnt matter

[lapis moth]

thane better

[frozen crest]

thats what brutus deniers would say

[lapis moth]

4 more copies for brutus too

[wide wasp]

I have instant e60 as soon as i get the star

[lapis moth]

something doesn't add up here

[oblique kestrel]

Feels way to hard to get into top 100 this round without spending a little more 😂

[sacred notch]

Lilith gotchu in their trap

[dusk tundra]

Top50 player

[lapis moth]

[misty epoch]

[lapis moth]

this debuff favors dummy whales

[misty epoch]

Can confirm, t36

[alpine grove]

New record top 18% 😎

[wide wasp]

@lapis moth whats ur t6?... Im realy struggling to make one..

[lapis moth]

here, np

[wide wasp]

xD

[misty epoch]

[lapis moth]

t33 thanks to this team, feel free to copy

[wide wasp]

Im gonna try this random Bullshit... And NO i dont have any other support, i know it lacks

Maybe i put flora in there with thoran

[lapis moth]

eh maybe daimon 5p instead

can't get kren to work this debuff

[wide wasp]

Daimon is in gb atm tho

[wide wasp]

So this not gonna work?

[twilit gulch]

Ur not running scarlet?

[lapis moth]

this actually got me a nice win rate but forgot to change it in 6 teams

[twilit gulch]

Hmm I'll give that a try

[lapis moth]

scarlet didn't do great when I tried her as a single carry so not sure I want to run her alone

[wide wasp]

Mine works idk

[lapis moth]

before the switch

[wide wasp]

🐳

Ur gonna be a whale soon

[lapis moth]

finished oden shiny gear today soon 5* hat too

[misty epoch]

Kraken

[twilit gulch]

I feel like my winrates always get inflated right before I go into a new division

Prob cuz the ppl stronger than me already are in the next division

[misty epoch]

You at 7 teams already?

[lapis moth]

yeah that happened but it worked well the previous round too, just didn't screenshot it

6 teams

[twilit gulch]

Testing these 2 teams rn

[sacred notch]

This the same kraken who already has 160+ temporal beacons 🐳

[lone void]

[lapis moth]

hmm, maybe kren with raku would work worth a shot

I tried it in 3 teams but didn't do well

[misty epoch]

True true

26 more pts till 7 teams

[wide wasp]

[wide wasp]

Im 200 points from 6teams

[twilit gulch]

Our t1 isn't even close to 7 teams

[wide wasp]

Our t1 is 500 away

[misty epoch]

Damn, freegion

[wide wasp]

Our t1 is #4 in CR

T1 in ch 53

[misty epoch]

Oh I heard of this guy

T1 in my region is Beercat

[wide wasp]

"freegion"

[misty epoch]

That's just a few krakens on the top

But most players are still low so yes, it is freegion

[static bone]

Thought on splitting the gb team and alna cycle to these 3 teams for 6 team battles.

Gb is easily 70%+ wr as is. Alna luc is 45ish wr.

Im wondering if i split them for 6 team if you guys will think it will hold up. And has anyone ran any scarlet cycle to any good effect

[dusk tundra]

[oblique kestrel]

Same. R35

[misty epoch]

Niceee

[oblique kestrel]

Stuck at 1% forever 😭

[misty epoch]

It's tough after region merge But at least they buffed the rewards so even at 1% they are still pretty good

[crystal cloud]

worth it to split alna gb and move her to cycle? my alnagb team has a wr of 93% (32 fights) and cycle 56%

[oblique kestrel]

That’s true 🥹 just trying hard to maintain 1%. Top 100 are all dolphins and whales

[crystal cloud]

rest arent really good 😄

[crystal cloud]

its pretty good because they are weekly rewards 🙂

[misty epoch]

Are they?

I thought it's more like every 8 days or so

Because you have like 2 days at the end of each rotation when nothing happens

I never paid attention to how many days each round last so not sure

[twilit gulch]

The entire season is 10 days

So it averages out to about once a week

[misty epoch]

Icic

[misty epoch]

Are you Swain main? xD

[crystal cloud]

so for weekly rewards they are pretty good imo and definately worth it to focus on ts

[misty epoch]

For sure

[twilit gulch]

Can't even focus on CR nowadays as newer players

Turning into awakened realm

[misty epoch]

The CR train has left the station long time ago

Too late to get on it

[crystal cloud]

i read that, absolutely ridiculus. so bad rewards :/

[misty epoch]

I wish CR was region based too, would give new players a chance

[crystal cloud]

yes hopefully the recognize that some day

[lapis moth]

Try it, the final round is in 3 days so it's good to test now

[oblique kestrel]

I used to play him a lot before the makeovers

[dusk tundra]

[oblique kestrel]

Hahaha so true!

[misty epoch]

Good times, I used to main him too, loved northern front Swain skin

I got my ass kicked so bad by him 1 time on top lane so decided to play him xD

[oblique kestrel]

Yeah similar concept, definitely an underdog type of top laner

[misty epoch]

Getting matched with whales

[oblique kestrel]

Azor help me optimize so I can get to top 100 🌚🌚

[misty epoch]

People used to underestimate his ult a lot, ended diving me quite often giving free kills haha

[misty epoch]

Show box

[crystal cloud]

yes i will try it for next round 🙂

[misty epoch]

@oblique kestrel Try Yenn instead of PoP in Ainz team

Team 4 Lucy Alna Desi Skreg Haelus

JoA instead of Lyca team 3

[oblique kestrel]

Will put those on. Thank you 🥹

[misty epoch]

For last team not too sure

Can try Estrilda Rowan Lyca Scarlet Rosa (follows Scarlet)

Is 300 Wutus doing anything? Check replays for dmg

[oblique kestrel]

Second one was a victory

But let’s try without him and maybe use him in team 6 in the near future

[misty epoch]

Yea from these 2 replays looks like he's good but overall wr still only 18%

[oblique kestrel]

Yeah maybe for last slots in team 6-7 but not during 5 teams. Thanks a bunch!!!

[hazy ridge]

I wanna improve my Lucretia cycle comp. Any tips? I'm top 3%. (my comp 1 is Grezhul-Alna-Athalia btw)

[polar dune]

you don't run Lucretia in it

thats how you improve it

[hazy ridge]

So you don't have any tips, thank you anyway.

[polar dune]

the tip is not running her

[hazy ridge]

That was not helpful. But thank you for your effort.

[twilit gulch]

Can try alna luc cycle

[polar dune]

gonna ask u why alna luc

[twilit gulch]

It work decent for me

[hazy ridge]

Thanks, what could I do with my Alna-Grezhul comp? Is Treznor e60 a decent replacement for Alna?

[polar dune]

think about it logically and break it down right , for the first 30s of the fight all hero takes 99% less dmg , alna functionality to keep the frontline from dying for 30s

are u still with me bear or was the tip not helpful and better thank me for my effort

[twilit gulch]

Yea trez is fine

[hazy ridge]

Thank you very much. That was very helpful. Good to see that not everyone here is a troll trying to be funny.

[twilit gulch]

And that DR decreases over time

[polar dune]

and if u are in full invul all the time or at least 15s if winter call can't reproc right - less value

[twilit gulch]

Im not very into theory crafting of how teams should work, I just try different teams and go by the results

[polar dune]

dude doesn't even know why Luc isn't any good in this ts , just post pvp picture without analysis

shud use those skill and check if any top 10 from any relevant region use luc cycle

[twilit gulch]

Less value ≠ bad value, there's a meta for top 10/20 and then there's a meta for t100 since not everyone has all the heroes built

[polar dune]

just saying its moveable , quite aware t10/20 does a lot of thing different , highlighted by my many comment

[twilit gulch]

Maybe I see things differently since I'm in a newer region, stuff like alna luc cycle works. Might not be effective in older regions where players have more options

[polar dune]

you would be better off not running luc anyway bc luc doesn't do well without her ult which this debuff heavily oppose. Scarlet however would do well , since DR drop slowly like you stated , and Scarlet ult get stronger with every recast - as long as its mid 4 and gain enough energy to consistently ult , aka what cycle attempt to do

top of that dark aura - scarlet e60 ability play into energy recovery

not saying its the best cycle but its obv a better cycle than alna luc which u can then split alna into something else

the newer the region , the more knowledge assist ; both goes hand in hand - play into the debuff is better than winging it and expecting u are gonna stay in ur spot

but ofc u can always just play alna luc which utilise 2 big piece

[twilit gulch]

What I found watching replays is that without alna the cycle portion can't ult fast enough before they die since the energy regen is reduced so having alna provide a strong frontline really helps

[polar dune]

I assume you are R40-41 right?

[twilit gulch]

Yea r40

[polar dune]

I assume you are copying madao setup ish right

[twilit gulch]

T36

[polar dune]

cus he also used those hero

[twilit gulch]

We both did a lot of experimenting this debuff and this was one of the better teams

[polar dune]

might as well run geralt in ur team A

[static bone]

Treznor in gb comp works great

[polar dune]

just looking thru ur match history right

the mortas doesn't accomplish anything A - more ppl ran just full dim

give geralt the stat from albedo furn and sht

if u want to keep your alna luc cycle go for it but then u leave out ur scarlet to dry

[twilit gulch]

My scarlet not E60 yet so idk if it'll even do well in cycle

[static bone]

Where can u put luc at if u run scarlet cycle

[polar dune]

e60 just give dark aura energy recovery drain

doesn't mean much in term of dmg

lot of ppl run a mage setup which alternatively u can pivot into as well

alternatively can just run a subset of alna grez nevanthi scarlet and someone else and scrap ur scarlet team

don't need e60 for the buff cus the healing will do enough

[hazy ridge]

Thank you! I will try Grezhul-Treznor-Athalia-Silas-Ferael and Alna-Lucretia cycle

[static bone]

Its never been under 70 wr for me. But my trez is decent invested

Ymmv

[hazy ridge]

My treznor is e60, so I think it will work.

[static bone]

Ah nice. Should be golden then

[polar dune]

@twilit gulch try

[twilit gulch]

Thanks I'll give that a try

[polar dune]

if worse % , can default back

[lone void]

mm gonna try a spin-off of that as well and see how it goes

been running random bs not really caring. no aw heroes so not much i can do. been hanging in t100 but will probably fall off in the coming weeks

[lapis moth]

didn't claim to make anything up btw, started with this guide and adjusted by testing stuff

first time playing this debuff

[alpine grove]

Which gb to ascend next for ts?

[polar dune]

different region , different setup ; since cn would run a diff meta from us as well , these team would counter etc.

also never said you made it , im just saying running similiar setup since u guys have very clone like team

[misty epoch]

6 teams setup need adjustment for sure 42% wr

T31 R35

[lapis moth]

alright, curious to see how it works out

[polar dune]

personally I just don't see the value from debuff perspective but can def work under right circumstances and against enemy team that is weak against it

luc don't do well generally into tanky enemy - as u can tell from campaign

[lapis moth]

investment matters here though maybe more than team comp especially in newer regions

[polar dune]

In a sense yeah , just outstating

[static bone]

This is the 6 teams im gonna try. Idk lol

Team 4 and 5 in that pic are basically just using some of the best stuff i have left

[opal bone]

My Mishka Scarlet has lower WR than random BS team in t6.

[sacred notch]

I feel u, the f2p struggle is real

https://tenor.com/view/life-is-so-hard-long-day-tired-hard-knock-sleep-problems-gif-11496472

[wise trail]

Bit more consistent. And at least some teams are closer to 50%

[lilac bobcat]

[sacred notch]

You're not paying enough money

[twilit gulch]

Fund me pls

[sacred notch]

Okay 160 temporal beacons

[twilit gulch]

That's all my $

Broke now

Had to take out a loan for that

[lilac bobcat]

Better than 18%

[sacred notch]

Could be better with ascended credit card

[lilac bobcat]

T50+

R3

I solved the 5 teams in this debuff

Now time to solve 6 teams

[alpine grove]

Do you have spare $ I could borrow without paying you back?

[lilac bobcat]

I'm all f2p

[alpine grove]

Please give some luck

[lilac bobcat]

Ask @lusty jungle

She will give you luck

[alpine grove]

How did you get enough cards for 3 aw heroes

[sacred notch]

Praying to the f2p gods

[lilac bobcat]

That's not 3

[twilit gulch]

It's 4

[lilac bobcat]

I like to slot atalene but she's literally garbo in this mode

[restive goblet]

💳

[alpine grove]

He said f2p

[restive goblet]

I think mayyybe f2p could possibly have three right now if they are extremely lucky and pushed super far in towers.

[lilac bobcat]

F2p btw

[restive goblet]

Most will have 1 or 2

[lilac bobcat]

[alpine grove]

https://tenor.com/view/cap-cap-check-gif-24989004

[frozen crest]

z is only in 29-60

obviously f2p

[lilac bobcat]

True

Can't even pass -60

That athalia ezizh is hard

[granite mason]

me too

thats why i quit

29-60 succ

[lusty jungle]

[dusk tundra]

Top 100

[dusk tundra]

She’s doing pretty well for me in invade

Only got one battle with my team 6 but a solid win. Looking forward to seeing its results this next round

[lilac bobcat]

Not really. She makes your team lose hp

Like lose hp bc shield doesn't exist

No regen

Cause there is no shield

[vale imp]

There is an atalene invade team that does pretty well actually

[lilac bobcat]

She literally kills your team

Not In this debuff

I know the abrutus atalene thing

[vale imp]

The team above has asolise, maybe why it works

[lilac bobcat]

Im already good

[vale imp]

And yes the atalene invade is mostly doing bad this debuff

[lilac bobcat]

I won't slot her just to make my team lose hp at start

You'll be more vulnerable to ainz team and athane

Cause that's what they want

[lilac bobcat]

Top 50

Also not having a huge ass wr with 1 or 2 teams at top 100 is a huge L

If you have like all 50% on all . You'll suffer more score loss

Better make two or 3 of your team solid

To have a stable + points income

Or you'll magically get kicked out of top 100

[static bone]

Smh this mode cracks me up. The 4 wins which is like 49 points moved me up about 15 total spots and that one 5 point loss dropped me 9

[vale imp]

It tends to happen when you move up enough

It switches the players you match with

[static bone]

Yea the mode is just wierd all around. But i really like it tbh

I still have no clue how they match teams like why are my 5 random ass teams all getting matched up vs dim teams.

[static bone]

How do they decide whos team plays whos team

[lilac bobcat]

Slow but enough to keep me top 50

[vale imp]

Gonna drop again next match but it does entertain me

[static bone]

Nice

Clout is clout

[frozen crest]

sheesh

[vale imp]

Yeah, and win rates are nice until the very top, when they can go to absolute trash

[static bone]

Brag town. Hehe

[vale imp]

I've had 1 point be the difference between the top 3 players before

It's very rng at that point

[static bone]

I see your bag, and counter with my mediocre brag

[vale imp]

Decent result

I'm also in the newbie region, which really doesn't compare well to the older ones

[static bone]

Im server 900 i think and region 36 for ts

[vale imp]

I'm region 41 for ts

[static bone]

What was it before merger

[vale imp]

70 something I think, the last one

[static bone]

I was 64 before the merger. I didnt have to try to hard for top 100

[vale imp]

They didn't add back most of the people they had just split off

Lucky me, I enjoy being in a different ts bracket from stripper steve lol

[static bone]

I got some pretty scary whales in my region

Idk if hyde is a know person or not but he is decked out

[lilac bobcat]

I'm region 3 and 19

[static bone]

Im sure thats tough sleding

[lilac bobcat]

So yea I'm in the dreaded regions

[dusk tundra]

Region 8

[vale imp]

Here he is, only one region apart after they combined them

[lilac bobcat]

You wanna play against kiasma

Who is that bnb

[vale imp]

That's stripper Steve lol

[lilac bobcat]

Oh

[vale imp]

I started ts stuck in the same region as him, was very glad when we split

[lilac bobcat]

I'm playing against Kiasma on r3

[vale imp]

Nice guy, horrible for my win rates

[static bone]

@vale imp same guild

[dusk tundra]

There’s super whales up past rank 50 in my region

[lilac bobcat]

Playing against KE and Julius on r19

[static bone]

Hes my regions top whale

[lilac bobcat]

Bnb gang

[vale imp]

Not surprising lol

[static bone]

Yeah

Lol

[lilac bobcat]

@violet briar why your guild member so op

[dusk tundra]

Current rank 50 in my region

[static bone]

Every hero is e80

[vale imp]

Cuz lit recruits them ofc

[lilac bobcat]

[static bone]

Ha

[dusk tundra]

Rank 60

[vale imp]

Rank 60 is missing brutus

[static bone]

Yeah that sucks to compete with lol

[vale imp]

Probably why they're 60 lol

[dusk tundra]

Humble me rank 75

[static bone]

Thats still sick

[vale imp]

Yup

[static bone]

I have brutus thats it

Working for thane now

[vale imp]

Thane not solise?

[dusk tundra]

He has Brutus

[lilac bobcat]

Welcome to the kraken sea

We swim with krakens

[static bone]

I figured thane has the higher pvp value and i been enjoying pvp more

But im sure solise is the better hero overall

[lilac bobcat]

Abrutus destroys thane in pvp

[vale imp]

He can, but solise is used more and more, and she is used for more content

[dusk tundra]

Honestly I’d say Brutus is more impactful in pvp than Thane

And used in more areas in the game

[lilac bobcat]

Abrutus abaden is all you need to kill every aw in pvp

[static bone]

No vs solise i ment

[vale imp]

And in this buff, the main thane team is doing poorly

[dusk tundra]

Tbh Brutus isn’t doing that great this buff either

[vale imp]

Mostly because it uses haelus and orthos

[static bone]

Yeah i really doesnt matter im only 2 more copies of thane in than solise so i could switch

[lilac bobcat]

Not really

[vale imp]

Regular brutus teams aren't, there are still good teams for him

[lilac bobcat]

Decent

[dusk tundra]

Show damage

[vale imp]

My ainz does better than brutus dims this buff

[dusk tundra]

Guarantee Ainz is doing most work majority of time

[static bone]

Ive been running a sketchy brutus team for the last 2 days and its been working good

[lilac bobcat]

Yen does the dmg

[vale imp]

I'm getting to the yolo end of ts lol, already at 2nd day of 6 teams not looking forward to 7

[lilac bobcat]

And teams are irrelevant bc of regions

[static bone]

Yen keeps them posted to the wall
And helps bruta hit group

Yeah for sure

[lilac bobcat]

You can use a top team somewhere

And be shit in my region

[static bone]

Yup

[lilac bobcat]

Cause I tried them

[vale imp]

Then go to region 5 and clean up

Some of the older regions look very chill, wish I could move lol

[lilac bobcat]

Yes very chill. Get punched by KE or kiasma

[static bone]

Lol

[lilac bobcat]

You will like those 0 points

[vale imp]

At least KE is making us win poe coins

[lilac bobcat]

Sometimes it's-4

[static bone]

How do u guys like eroin

He seems pretty decent in pvp

[vale imp]

I'm not seeing him used

[lilac bobcat]

Still no red points

[static bone]

I dont think a ton of people use him but i could wrong

But he seems pretty strong for clipping backline heros. Idk

[vale imp]

I'm curious to see any comps that might have him

[static bone]

Im using him in my 6 team atm

[vale imp]

The wilder darlings for pvp are currently nev, asolise, mishka, and astar

[static bone]

But he is only 303

And his 9 furn looks mandatory

[granite mason]

eorin good, but not too good at this buff due to the dmg reduction

[dusk tundra]

My total WR is below 40% and I’ve gone up one spot in rank lol

[frozen crest]

he's p ok for me on the other 2 debuffs

[static bone]

Yeah i was thinking he could maybe fit on that scarlet burst team for the burst ts

[twilit gulch]

Stripper steve might lose 1st lol

the 2nd guy almost dethroned him last time

[frozen crest]

okeke in your region?

or the ai 宝贝 person

[granite mason]

Alna eorin could be good

[twilit gulch]

okeke in ur region

[frozen crest]

oh f

im dumb

[static bone]

Estrilda, miskka, scarlet, lyca, eorin inwas gonna try

[static bone]

But idk im shit at making teams apparently

[twilit gulch]

ai宝贝 kinda gave up

but zefu is rly close

basically has a max account as well

[frozen crest]

new player is steve yeah?

[twilit gulch]

yea

[vale imp]

yeah that's steve

[frozen crest]

hmm

[twilit gulch]

if u look at their match history its literally just them fighting eachother

[lilac bobcat]

I ranked up to 48

Nice

[twilit gulch]

just realized theyre doing TS without pets

[lilac bobcat]

Who needs pet

Fight like a real man

[frozen crest]

not the first time, won't be the last

[twilit gulch]

looool

[lilac bobcat]

This guy has two winged pets slotted

Are you fucking kidding me

[frozen crest]

what?

[lilac bobcat]

Oh nvm

[frozen crest]

2nd one is kiasma

[sacred notch]

How does arty not have max lion?

[lilac bobcat]

He's below the other one

Nvm

[twilit gulch]

maybe not going for 36 pets

[lilac bobcat]

Cause poor

[twilit gulch]

its expensive lol

i dont even have lvl 12

[lilac bobcat]

The power of not getting red score

Is you slowly climb up

[frozen crest]

slowly but surely

[lilac bobcat]

Wait for others to f up

Then you snag their top

Cause they got 0 points

[frozen crest]

im stable t3x for 3 days now, hope it persists lol

[lilac bobcat]

Solid

Tech

[twilit gulch]

tbh 6 teams dont even matter

wait for 7 teams

thats when rewards come

[frozen crest]

i have 65% wr and dropped 1 rank

no red scores in battle history either

hmm

[lilac bobcat]

I just need to win 4 fights in 7 teams

Then I can scuff the other 3

[twilit gulch]

1 awakened in each team

ez

[dusk tundra]

Going up with poopy rates 😛

[lilac bobcat]

Nevanthi doesn't matter in abaden comp

You can see the isabella

[dusk tundra]

Only rich people have built Isabella

[dusk tundra]

What’s the damage look like

[lilac bobcat]

Isabella is there to suck pos 4

Like that's her job

Delay the pos 4. Cause that's like asolise spot

Or healer spot

Or yen spot

[frozen crest]

i thought she sucks frontliners?

[lilac bobcat]

She sucks the hero she's aligned

She's like ferael

[sacred notch]

She sucks???

[lilac bobcat]

But on one target

Energy yes

She sucks energy

[low iron]

I thought her enemy drain was nearest enemy hero?

[lilac bobcat]

I see her suck nevanthi

I watched the replay

She drained the nev energy

[frozen crest]

guess she's picky

dont wanna suck no tanks

[lilac bobcat]

And she works

90%

[low iron]

Huh, it still says Nearest Enemy Hero in the description, so whether they changed it and never changed the description or it's a bug, good to see her doing work.

[frozen crest]

probably a bug

or rather, a feature

[lilac bobcat]

This.

She became oden

She now targets who has the largest energy

[low iron]

Ah, I see. So it just depends on who has the highest energy for that. Good to know. 🙏

And it's an additionally so it's a double sucking.

[lilac bobcat]

Yep

She heavily delays one unit

So she's like oden or ferael

3f op

[low iron]

Combined with aBaden's 140 drain/sec this debuff too.

[sacred notch]

Might fuck around with my 203 isa then in 6/7 teams

[lilac bobcat]

So yea scuffing ferael out for isa doesn't change the wr

I can use ferael somewhere

[low iron]

I guess people could also Theowyn in a similar position for the single-target shut down depending on what they have available, but it's less reliable as Theowyn only haunts the person she's across from.

[lilac bobcat]

This two comp magically works

You can use the talene orthros cr comp for ts

But asolise

And you barrier stack

What makes this fun is athane will jump to orthros

[static bone]

Oden looks like one of the best heros for this buff if he gets rolling

[lilac bobcat]

Athalia

Yea oden too

[wise lion]

2%, 121 pts from t100

[twilit gulch]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-squarepants-chest-bust-rip-shirt-gif-16057052

[sacred notch]

https://tenor.com/view/no-no-you-cant-no-no-you-cannot-no-you-can-not-no-no-you-cant-gif-17492702

[frozen crest]

https://tenor.com/view/how-can-you-be-sure-hunter-franklin-the-oval-next-to-impossible-s3ep18-gif-25403934

[sacred notch]

https://tenor.com/view/metal-gear-rising-metal-gear-rising-revengeance-senator-armstrong-revengeance-i-made-it-the-fuck-up-gif-25029602

[frozen crest]

top 49 now, this is sad
when ~60% wr, no idea how my rank keep on dropping

surprised that luc cycle top 2 wr

[opal bone]

Freegion.

[lilac bobcat]

FREE

[lapis moth]

sir help make team pls, new player

[lilac bobcat]

Okay I'll scuff my abrutus team

[steady hill]

i have garion in my region, send help

:v

[lilac bobcat]

Time to build ainz and abrutus team

I'll take my top 50

T6

[violet briar]

[lapis moth]

@twilit gulch how are the nevanthi and thoran teams working for you?

[twilit gulch]

Gonna change some things up and see how it goes

[lapis moth]

oh wow thane 72% that's big

thanks

[frozen crest]

wh rank?

[twilit gulch]

38

[frozen crest]

cool ty

[hasty scaffold]

Raku wake me up when this debuff is over

[hazy ridge]

Canisa doing well at M+

[opal bone]

What is that Team 3 abomination and how do you have the decency to exhibit it?

Just whale in a new region and let the game do random teams for you, probably still top 50.

[twilit gulch]

50% not bad

Think I can do better tho

[opal bone]

It's not the wr that is bad.

It's the thought process behind putting it together.

[lapis moth]

why

scarlet good with everything

except this debuff

[opal bone]

Why is Mortas not in dims

[lapis moth]

tbh doesn't seem to affect the win rate much

[opal bone]

82% Dim wr in a freegion is weak.

@civic sage Just noticed your server is the oldest in your region.

[lapis moth]

no merlin tho

[static bone]

Gonna tweak team 4 and 5 for this round. But happy with the split and combination i did of alna cycle and gb teams.

[storm moth]

this debuff is so ass

[static bone]

Yea lol

Im gonna try lorsan over saurus in team 5 and swap haeleus for rosa in team 4, also move scarlet to front row.

Ill see if that helps or make it worse. Cuz otherwise im running out of options lol

[oblique kestrel]

Where are you ranked right now and what region?

[oblique kestrel]

Our heroes are almost identical, I’m ranked 97 in R35, but it’s interesting cus I have somewhat different layouts

[static bone]

Can you show me your 6 team?

[lilac bobcat]

Copying formations I see