treasure-scramble

[patent gulch]

I need a team 5… just threw in random stuff

[dusk tundra]

a

[pine ether]

can i put mythic + athalia instead of Eorin ?

[frozen crest]

idk

i thought athalia's main thing i sher e60

[alpine grove]

Should I still ascend hodg next or go for Desira if my focus is ts?

[bright light]

My desira is still doing fine at e+

[lime zinc]

I don't use hodg in TS unless he's maaaybe used at 7 team

Hodg is more useful than Desi for a lot of other content though

[void bramble]

That 5th team is a legitamate team actually lol. I would use skreg in place of atalene and astar in place of flora if you have them built

[alpine grove]

What should I change here? 5-pull never does well but I can’t think of any other team

[wide wasp]

@misty epoch 66% realy good thnx

[frozen crest]

cycle does better at least

[pastel kiln]

still 18 %

[misty epoch]

What was your wr at the end?

[opal bone]

@frozen crest How did your teams do this morning?

Idk how your EGB is doing better than my AGB

63rd

[frozen crest]

t93

feels like i wont be able to reach t50 anymore kekw

[opal bone]

[frozen crest]

this blizzard meta is so confusing, im gonna do random bullshit again next 50

[opal bone]

Blizzard meta also sucks for f2p.

And vegan f2ps like you.

If I had Athane I'd be guaranteed t50

[lapis moth]

fat yen is good on all debuffs

[opal bone]

Can never go wrong with thick Yen.

[lapis moth]

maybe I should e60 her after thane

[civic sage]

I’m not sure about that, his WR seems very bad this debuff

[opal bone]

No it's not.

It's still 65ish at least

[civic sage]

Check yourself

[opal bone]

Compared to me getting 23% with third team last night

Grats on purple

[gusty valley]

No it’s not.

[civic sage]

.

[civic sage]

Thx

[civic sage]

Compared to his usual WR in other debuffs it is

[lilac bobcat]

Just get abaden and stomp nubs in lower region

[gusty valley]

Haelus is bad though, so regular AThane comp isn’t as good.

[lilac bobcat]

Use desira instead of haelus

[civic sage]

Which is what my point is

Not saying he’s completely unusable

[lilac bobcat]

Athane is decent

[gusty valley]

An AThane team as one of the first two/three teams has kept me top20 in R8, so he’s ”a bit” better than ”not completely unusable”. 😄

[lilac bobcat]

But you won't run athane burst

Or cycle

Athane

[opal bone]

And he's even better in newer regions.

[lilac bobcat]

R3

T44

Not bad

[opal bone]

Salami

[lilac bobcat]

Salami op

[frozen crest]

i lack so much investments i cant wait to achieve em

altho not sure if i should shift slightly towards cr

[lilac bobcat]

Dont

[frozen crest]

cr seem fun

[lilac bobcat]

You mean cursed

[civic sage]

Invest into heroes used in multiple modes

[frozen crest]

when u gonna invest in alna

[hasty scaffold]

[civic sage]

Soon

[frozen crest]

thats what u said 3 months ago

[gusty valley]

That said. He can’t burst, and he’s not as much his own team this debuff. He needs a solid team around him, but he’s still very very good…

[wide wasp]

61

[lilac bobcat]

Thane can actually burst

Tf you saying

The dr isn't permanent

It's decreasing each seconds

ThAnE cAnT bUrsT

Says the dude who probably doesn't have athane

Looks like a burst to me

[gusty valley]

Not really. A burst team can still grind it out. But winning by initial haste-induced burst damage, that is butst strategy, isn’t possible.

The only hero that can sort-of-kind-of burst this drbuff id Athalia, since her bleed isn’t damage, and thus not reduced.

Athane csn still put out a shitload of damage over time, I’ve never said he’s bad this debuff (the opposite, in fact), but he still can’t burst, he wouldn’t be as good in some lyca-estrilda-zolrath comp as in grindier comps like the one you posted examples of. (Zomrath is also still very good since he has plenty of time to get his Anihilate going, but not so much for his initial speed burst.)

[wanton nymph]

[lapis moth]

did anyone try scarlet vs lucretia in cycle

[devout shore]

can i see your team

[wanton nymph]

swapped lucretia instead of scarlet atm

[devout shore]

thank

[static bone]

Smh this mode blows my mind. Finished with last night ts round with 68% win rate. Changed nothing and now im at like a 32% win rate

Went from top 50 to the idk somewhere in 1% but never changed anything lol

[toxic prawn]

Region 39 top 86 somehow

[opal bone]

You realise the pool of people you face changes dynamically as you go up or down, right?

[frozen crest]

what route is this

[static bone]

Right but would i not have been facing the "tougher" people while i was in the top 50?

[toxic prawn]

Blue

[frozen crest]

is blue left or right

[toxic prawn]

Right I think

[opal bone]

Somehow? I don't even have A Twins in R38

[frozen crest]

aight let me try it next

[obtuse mauve]

You face people within the same route, and that has the same number of teams (aka prestige tier or division)

[toxic prawn]

I kinda rushed twins ngl

[lapis moth]

raku has A twins in 39 too

[opal bone]

No, because it takes a while to reset the pool of players you face. So you were stuck facing lower people even while you moved up. Then the game registers you finally as being in a higher bracket and pits you up against tougher opponents, and doesn't reset again until next round.

[frozen crest]

and im 1%

someone shit in my server somehow rank 10*

10+

[toxic prawn]

I copied raku a little, don’t see him in top 100 rn

[opal bone]

Raku is vegan f2p

[frozen crest]

with semi trash teams, ig investments win

[static bone]

Interesting. Still seems crazy to drop 40% win rate. Im still seeing alot of the same names in battles. Maybe rng is just a cruel beast today

[opal bone]

There are spenders on my server with double my power in LCT, but usually do worse than me in TS.

Whales do be dumb often.

[twilit gulch]

Dims op

[frozen crest]

ill just copium til i get brotus

[opal bone]

How many copies?

[frozen crest]

3

[opal bone]

Still waiting on my 8th Athane.

[frozen crest]

these woke heroes feel so underwhelming at M

fuck lilith

[lone void]

how many cards did you have when you started pulling? tempted as hell at 350ish 😄

[frozen crest]

355

exactly 355

[misty epoch]

350 will probably get you M/M+ if lucky

[frozen crest]

if ur luckier u can get A

i wish you goodluck

and fuck u if u do get A

[misty epoch]

A definitely possible

[lone void]

might just pull the plug and go for woketus

[misty epoch]

I got Athane in 270 cards

[wanton nymph]

huh?

[dusty bronze]

I got ABrutus in 244.

[twilit gulch]

[misty epoch]

Damn niceee!

[twilit gulch]

If I had good rate

[frozen crest]

fkn gell

hell

[twilit gulch]

Would have 2 awakeneds now

[misty epoch]

Copium

[dusty bronze]

I'm just not sold on Solise yet.

[twilit gulch]

I spent like 660 cards for AThane

[lone void]

[lapis moth]

[frozen crest]

oh damn

desurb

[wanton nymph]

i mean she is used literally everywhere plus supps dont fall off the meta, what else do you wanna see? her coming to your house?

[misty epoch]

Thank you for tanking the bad rng for us

[dusty bronze]

I wanna see what comes next more likely.

[lapis moth]

no more next pls

[frozen crest]

if theres a next

[dusty bronze]

If I send, that's gonna be it.

[frozen crest]

awezizh tier plz

[misty epoch]

You can bet your ass there will

Awk Titus incoming

[frozen crest]

sounds scary ngl

[dusty bronze]

Imagine a house falling on you.

[misty epoch]

Sounds like Melusina

[lapis moth]

awakened dim maybe

[twilit gulch]

[obtuse mauve]

Awakened wukong as a dim

[dusty bronze]

If there's an Awakened dim, Arthur is probably it.

[lapis moth]

rng literally hates me

why not target alna ffs

[obtuse mauve]

Cycle works at all in this debuff?

[lapis moth]

idk I copy from raku

[dusty bronze]

Scarlet Burst is bad in this one sadly.

18%, what a joke.

[lapis moth]

I don't think I've seen a team with lyca that has more than 20% wr

[dusty bronze]

Fair, the debuff is so bad for burst.

[twilit gulch]

I'll prob add lyca in 5 teams

[dusty bronze]

Just switched to Lucy cycle, hope does better.

Scarlet Cycle is trash as well.

[twilit gulch]

Alna luc cycle is the way

[dusty bronze]

Sounds good, but Alna-Grez is so good in this.

[twilit gulch]

Doesn't need alna

GBs just good

[dusty bronze]

Hm hm, who do you propose?

[twilit gulch]

Another GB

[dusty bronze]

Hodge? Daimon?

[twilit gulch]

Still experimenting

[dusty bronze]

Gotcha. Will try with Daimon for now.

[static bone]

I had good luck yesterday with the alna luc cycle.

[red veldt]

Thoughts on Eorin’s e60 for pvp or damage over all?

[potent parrot]

whale investment

[red veldt]

Eh, not sure about that. I have 9 e60s and 2 e65s, and I’m not even spending any more. I’ve got 7.5k red emblems and my next priorities are AThane who I need 3 more copies for and Twins, who I need 2 more copies for. So, I’ve a lot of time to finish the 1.5k more emblems before either of those are ready to invest in…

[misty epoch]

Best thing would be post your box imo

[red veldt]

I literally haven’t spent in months & months except for Yenn and that’s only because I f’d up and spent too many lab coins on Geralt

[dense lava]

Eorin is not worth investing in unless you are a whale.

[red veldt]

Well, again, for a PvP focused player I’m not sure that’s true.

[dense lava]

You aren’t getting a win in LC with your box.

And he isn’t used anywhere else in pvp.

[red veldt]

Um he’s been doing well in TS for me so far even without the full 309 so far

[potent parrot]

just save for brutus and athane

[dense lava]

You would gain more from e60 Albedo/aThane/Twins > Anasta/Zolrath

Just because a hero “does well”, doesn’t mean that hero is good. Any hero can do well if you invest resources into him and don’t invest in others.

[misty epoch]

I agree, Eorin prio is way down the line

[red veldt]

Ok, yes that makes sense. Maybe Anasta would be a better choice

Is Albedo that big a diff?

[potent parrot]

she is more AE e60

[dense lava]

People underestimate her e60 ability.

[potent parrot]

only found it useful in AE

[dense lava]

These are what I considered high priority engraves. Obviously take it with a grain of salt as I may have different priorities in the game from you.

[red veldt]

Cool thanks. Is e80’ing anyone a better investment for me, pvp wise than e60’ing an Albedo or Anasta?

[dense lava]

aThane maybe

[potent parrot]

e80 only Brutus Athane Zolrath for pvp

[red veldt]

Hm ok. I guess I should just hold them then for now and just ignore them

[potent parrot]

e87 even

[red veldt]

Ok, thanks

[dense lava]

Zolrath is a questionable e80 for pvp because he doesn’t make or break the team. It’s a good engrave if you also have good engraves on the rest of burst too.

aThane and aBrutus can carry on their own. Just throw in some other random LBs and Maulers and they’ll do their job.

As a F2P it’s hard for me to honestly recommend any kind of e80

[alpine grove]

What’s cycle

[dense lava]

F2P and “PvP focused” don’t really belong in the same sentence tbh.

[potent parrot]

only e80 worth for f2p in campaign is lucy

[red veldt]

Yeah, but I think I need Zach before I start worrying about standard burst comp, right? And he’s below Athalia and Ezizh in gazing/shop priority for me. Well, or even getting AThane to A1*

[potent parrot]

tho for pvp kinda meh

[dense lava]

Zaphrael and Zolrath are a part of basically every single burst comp, yeah.

They’re the core 2, rest can vary.

[misty epoch]

Athane 1* first before gazing Atha/Ezizh imo

[dense lava]

Don’t gaze Athalia or Ezizh. Just build over time from the shop.

Athalia > Ezizh

[red veldt]

Cycle == energy cycle, cores are Rowan, Twins and Ezizh (for the most part) and they feed haste and energy to someone so they get a ton of ults off

[misty epoch]

Cycle is Twins/Rowan/Ezizh core + 2 units, usually carry and another supp

[alpine grove]

My twins are E and ezizh is E+ will that work lmao

[misty epoch]

Would take 1 year to ascend just 1 unit tho iirc

Even with good challenger coins income

[misty epoch]

Probably not strong enough

[lapis moth]

is it just me or did it just start 4 teams without finishing the previous 3 teams?

[misty epoch]

Wdym lol

[red veldt]

Yeah that’s true. I’ll finish Athalia in a couple of more buys (I assume engravings arent essential for her?) and then switch to Ezizh, next gazing for AThane star and then I need to decide where to go from there: Zaph, Canisa & Ruke, Audrae, Frampton & regular Talene are all unbuilt for me

[dense lava]

Do you plan on playing a long time?

This game is about patience. If you’re doing unwise gazes just to speed things up, especially as a F2P, you’ll always be behind.

[lapis moth]

It started a new round of 4 teams when the previous 3 teams was like halfway through iirc

[dense lava]

Athalia engravings are important. I don’t know where exactly I would place her in a priority list, but like I said above, she’s one I considered a high priority for pvp.

[misty epoch]

That sounds strange, hasn't happened to me yet

[red veldt]

sigh ok then I’ll be done with her in like 5 more shop buys. I get ~10k coins a day, so like 3 months five or take

Hmmmm 9.57k per day sorry

[dense lava]

It will be hard to catch up as a F2P. Especially with the rate they’re releasing heroes. So look at the TS seasons and see which heroes consistently do good every season, and go from there.

Again, not to shoot you down, but F2P and “PvP focused” don’t really go together sadly.

[red veldt]

@dense lava between Canisa & Ruke, Audrae, Frampton or Zaph, who would you say is better to pull for next (with a TS/pvp and CR focus) after I get AThane to one star and need a new target? I would guess Audrae or Canisa?

[red veldt]

I understand. Maybe I should just say scramble focused. I got top 100 last season and would like to push to keep up in there just for the time cards

[dense lava]

None of those heroes are really used in CR so it would mainly be a pvp focus. I would go with Zaphrael or Framton. Zaphrael would be an e35 minimum, Framton e60.

[red veldt]

I get that I’m never going to do anything in LC given my tree and hero box

[red veldt]

Cool thanks.

[dense lava]

[alpine grove]

What 5 teams would you recommend

[red veldt]

@dense lava sorry one more question for TS: Yennifer worth investing in, in terms of gear, SI and furn? Well and engravings I supppse

[dense lava]

She’s a whale unit. Don’t recommend as a F2Pz

[red veldt]

And does she need Geralt to be strong? Ah, ok understood

[dense lava]

I’ve only ever seen Geralt used as a solo in high ranking AE.

[red veldt]

Ok, well also unnecessary for me then as I’m not in a high AE guild

[dense lava]

He was also a low priority solo. My guild finished 14th, and even for us the recommendation was like “Use him if you have him I guess?”

[twilit gulch]

Why is my AThane so ass

[hasty scaffold]

He sucks. Have asked for a refund

[twilit gulch]

[misty epoch]

Ainz garrison expiring soon

[twilit gulch]

Just renewed

Albedo expiring soon too tho

Might have to dig into my hero coins stash

[dense lava]

Skreg is useless without his 9F. And Sonja isn’t really usable at M.

[dusk tundra]

Yo

[dense lava]

That entire team is basically a 1v5 at those investments.

[dusk tundra]

What’s the meta comps

[twilit gulch]

[dusk tundra]

Never played this debuff

[potent parrot]

random bs go

[misty epoch]

Won 2 out of 3 battles and got only 4 pts, bruh...

[opal bone]

How is she a whale unit??

She's top tier PvP, and useable in Campaign.

[dense lava]

Yennefer requires 309e60 to be usable in pvp. And she’s only used in pvp. I’ve never seen her used with any high deficit campaign clears. She might work with low deficit but at that point, so does any hero.

[dim pier]

No ascended Brutus but I have a lot of others invested. Looking for 4th and 5th team ideas. What’s working for you guys? Ranked 42 right now but I don’t like seeing Lucretia so low. Any Lucretia comps working?

[patent gulch]

Rank?

[dim pier]

42

[patent gulch]

I couldn’t get away with a Lucretia comp like that

[dim pier]

Same. 11% is abysmal

[patent gulch]

Region 3…

[dim pier]

Rowan shield isn’t working. Maybe raine or zolrath?

[patent gulch]

So tough competition

[dim pier]

Yeah region 3 a bit harder for sure than region 36

[twilit gulch]

Alna luc cycle

[patent gulch]

Ever since the merge, My ranks been massacred.

[dim pier]

If I use Alna for Lucretia, what goes in the GB team

[twilit gulch]

aBrutus

[dim pier]

Only have thane and solise ready. Brutus only legendary plus

[patent gulch]

Standard AThane comp works pretty fine here too.

[twilit gulch]

Daimon Hodgekin desira

Take ur pick

[dim pier]

I’ll try Daimon since it’s 30960

[twilit gulch]

Solise for mortas might boost that win rate if u have her built

[patent gulch]

Or Ezio.

Ezio preforms good this debuff.

[dim pier]

Something like this then?

[patent gulch]

I’d just switch Ainz to a different back position. That’s the most common position for Athalia to attack.

[dim pier]

Thanks

Put Merlin slot 4 and moved Joan to front line

[twilit gulch]

Rowan might be better than haelus, can try both and see what works better

[patent gulch]

1 more stupid point for 4 team

[sudden bronze]

hi! asking for help with teams 🙏
is there a way to replace 1) Joan of Arc and Albedo in Dimensionals comp? 2) Ezizh in Lucrezia comp? 3) Haelus in a comp with Haelus/AThane? 4) what comps is a good use of AThalene?
and here's what I got:

[patent gulch]

Not really… Albedo is required for Dime comp.

[sudden bronze]

sadge... -1 comp to use then 😦

[sudden jasper]

Any advice on recomended teams?

[remote moat]

@dim pier Let me know how those play out. Struggling with a decent 3-4 this round. (F2p) top 2-4%

Also curious is mythic+30 ascended thane/talene would be worth trying

[rocky meadow]

Could I be doing more in TS with these heroes? My standard aThane isn't really ready with Orthros Sonja Hendrik all barely built, so I'm experimenting. Top 1% right now, but was in the top 50 before they moved the goalposts

[crystal cloud]

Any tips for 4/5 team comps?

[steady hill]

r3 top 89

[hasty scaffold]

[steady hill]

hai

[frozen crest]

1% to top 37

im so confused at 4 teams wr

[twilit gulch]

T87

At least now I know what doesn't work

[frozen crest]

rip athane

[alpine grove]

Should I go back to 10 pulls because I seem to be missing so many 4f heroes that are used in ts

[frozen crest]

like what heroes?

[alpine grove]

Everyone new after Astar (which is like 6), Skreg, Hendrick, Hodgkin, Saurus.

[frozen crest]

ah, i just use event scrolls and such to ascend those

[alpine grove]

Yeah I just feel like I never get them

[frozen crest]

theres always hcp

[oblique kestrel]

Team 2 and 4 struggled hard 🥲

Need some pro tips 😆

[dim pier]

Going better so far @remote moat

[remote moat]

Nice, about to hit 4 teams mark, may habe to adjust again

[alpine grove]

Is Thane or Brutus more impactful in ts?

[sacred notch]

@misty epoch where u at? I don't see u in top100

Unless I'm blind

[dusk tundra]

I’d say aBrutus is more impactful

Can’t go wrong with either though

[alpine grove]

I'm just in love with aThane such a cool character

[frozen crest]

flip a coin

can't go wrong with fate

[alpine grove]

He’s last on this :/

[frozen crest]

thats a clown guide

[icy spruce]

for real

[frozen crest]

and youre only focusing ts so thane prio will be higher altho id still do solise or brutus for overall

[alpine grove]

I'll get brutus and solise done in 2025

[polar dune]

Don’t lie to yourself

Game won’t last till 2024

[alpine grove]

then I'll maybe have Thane done but that's a maybe

[low iron]

It's okay, at least AFK2 is coming so the whaling cycle can start all over again.

[granite mason]

Imagine ascending saurus first in 2022

[alpine grove]

Lmao yeah it’s ass

[granite mason]

the person who makes this guide really hates thoran cheese

[frozen crest]

they should also add shem

[gloomy lichen]

ไ

0ฃ0.

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[wide wasp]

My random BS athane team isnt working... Any suggestions?

@misty epoch

[shut vessel]

That's horrible

3 carries no cc

[wide wasp]

Yeah... I made that team in 3 seconds

Random Bullshit go

[lapis moth]

this is what I tried this round

[wide wasp]

Send other teams plz

[wide wasp]

Thats realy good

Ima copy them, but who can i use for LDV?

[lapis moth]

idk, maybe kren if it's invested enough

or geralt, I am going to try him next round

[wide wasp]

308e30 kren

[lapis moth]

can try it

[wide wasp]

Thnx

[misty epoch]

I am 61st

[misty epoch]

Replace Daimon with Alna in AGB and put together Alna Athane team with some supports

Try that, no guarantees tho 🤓

[lapis moth]

does athane still get buffs from alna if placed frontline because I notice he doesn't heal

maybe it was the healing reductions from gbs

[misty epoch]

He still get immunity, the heal only affects Alna afaik

[lapis moth]

Oh I see

[wide wasp]

I just copied madaos team... But idk if that team is gonna work without LDV,, maybe i try scarlet burst(i got 55% last round)

[misty epoch]

[wide wasp]

Something like this

Fearel for raku

[misty epoch]

Worth a try ig

[dusk tundra]

Idk what teams are good. I’ve never done this buff

[crystal cloud]

Any tips for 5 teams ?:)

[granite mason]

dims
alna gb
luc cycle
random bs 1
random bs 2
(scarlet mishka or something or remove abrutus from dim and add to random bs)

[crystal cloud]

Like this? Or what should I change?

[granite mason]

4th team use desira/ hodgkin instead of mishka; use mishka in 5th comp and use Atalene in 3rd team for the combo Atalene+thoran

[crystal cloud]

Ok thanks I'll try that. Other teams looks good?

[granite mason]

yeah,not sure if L+ solise could be much useful

[crystal cloud]

Ok I will try, what hero to use if it doesn't work good?

[granite mason]

mortas since u dont have merlin

[crystal cloud]

Yes still working towards him. Mortars on e+ works?

[granite mason]

if he can ult

[crystal cloud]

Ok I'll put him in and see what happens 😂 thanks

[granite mason]

use scarlet in 5th team instead of kren

[crystal cloud]

And in 3th team then?

[granite mason]

daimon i guess

[crystal cloud]

KK

I will try and see what happens 😄 thanks!:)

[crystal cloud]

Use ezizh in Luc cycle (only e) or aezizh?

[granite mason]

normal ezizh for the energy buff( his passive)

[crystal cloud]

Ok thanks

[unique rune]

Can't pass the 3rd rank any help on the teams ?

The ones I used

[frozen crest]

1st team yen for rowan
3rd team luc cycle
2nd team put oden silas for nara tasi, abade for daimon

ur box is weird so this is what i can only come up

[unique rune]

I know.. Old player invested in stuff I either liked or got baited into investing 🥲

Idk if baiden nevanthi could work in scramble ?

It's pretty good in pve but

[wide wasp]

Baden nivea OP pvp

[frozen crest]

both not much investments

u can try if u want

but ehh

[unique rune]

Got them recently so they're not great yet

I was using yen and prince + brutus with them

Decent success as is

[dusk tundra]

Cycle was trash for me

[frozen crest]

hmm

[dusk tundra]

What I’m running next

[frozen crest]

ldv that good to make flex as joa/ezio?

[shadow panther]

does that make sense?

[lapis moth]

rip kren

[sullen zenith]

Any decent teams this round without leaning on awakened? Only Dims and Alna GB seem alright

[twilit gulch]

I had a similar raku ldv team that only got 20% last round

[dim pier]

Do artifacts matter in treasure scramble? I feel like I can’t push towers or campaign during the week because it might affect the teams

[twilit gulch]

Only gear

[crystal cloud]

Uff this team with atalene and thoran (currently 4teams) is doing pretty bad. Have you any recommendations to improve?

[wild aurora]

Try split ainz and Brutus.

[crystal cloud]

Whom should I put in Ainu team as replacement? And who to switch out team 4?

[dusk tundra]

Ayyee these comps doing well. Started late and was at 6%. Now at rank 69

[granite mason]

Athane out
put random bs in ainz team, maybe geralt

[remote moat]

Ideas for that 29% have invested scarlett

19 pts off top 100 as f2p 😆

[crystal cloud]

KK i try thanks

[wide wasp]

Astars bubble useless in this debuff... Maybe put scarlet in there

[remote moat]

Will try it, but wasn't having much success earlier with something similar

[wide wasp]

Idk

[civic sage]

Replacing Lyca for Nevanthi/AwkSolise (Built), or any other support. Treznor substitute, Anasta is a good example if built

[restive goblet]

The teams lock in the moment each round starts. As long as you have gear on your units when the round starts, you can change it around for towers etc as long as you put it back before the next round. And like Bear said, no artifacts in TS.

[misty epoch]

@sacred notch Is JoA better than Arthur in Ainz comp?

[storm moth]

imo yes

[misty epoch]

Not sure who to replace her with in mauler comp

[twilit gulch]

T62

[wide wasp]

🐋

[twilit gulch]

🦐

[granite mason]

[sacred notch]

What's your winrate with Arthur?

[granite mason]

abrutus when

[sacred notch]

I'm 66% right now at 50 battles

[twilit gulch]

Only have 200 cards

[sacred notch]

T54 r35

[sacred notch]

https://tenor.com/view/hmm-dot-dot-dot-stick-figure-intresting-gif-23376515

[granite mason]

more
heroic ship, vip pack, etc

[bright light]

Anyone found a scarlet team or decent burst without zol?

[granite mason]

then join my guild

jk

[twilit gulch]

[lapis moth]

seems to me like having 2-3 carries works well now

[twilit gulch]

Bought all the time emblems from vip deals already

Gotta wait till next vip

[lapis moth]

yeah yuexi deals suck

[twilit gulch]

They're not bad IF you win the lottery

[lapis moth]

hope they will come up with some new time emblem deal that's actually worth it

yeah pity timer 40 no thanks

[misty epoch]

Wdym, all of them are worth it

[twilit gulch]

[lapis moth]

srsly lol like 30$ for half an awakened when you need 12 copies

[misty epoch]

And 60 stargazers

[lapis moth]

might be worth it if you need to add into what you already got from towers but getting it from scratch is meh

[lapis moth]

talking about yuexi mainly

that's like 360$ for 1 A awakened when there are like 4-5 useful ones

think of how many non awakened heroes you could max with that

[restive goblet]

If they make Awakened heroes cheap it will make competition so much harder

f2p would actually be boned

[twilit gulch]

Awakened is just $360?

[remote moat]

Shrugs

[twilit gulch]

Thought it was like 600

[remote moat]

Ppl are mostly lazy with ts. I can usually manage top 2% with no awakened

[sacred notch]

Definitely not 360$ way more

[patent gulch]

Any suggestions on a team 3

[patent gulch]

I’ve never payed over 190$ for any of my awakened

[twilit gulch]

[patent gulch]

Any ideas on a team 3? Maybe add in Frampton instead of Lyca? Would that do better?

[wide wasp]

Take out wallet Buy abrutus

[patent gulch]

Have him

Where would ya put him

Lol

[twilit gulch]

Grez aBrutus GBs

[patent gulch]

He is part of my team 5, tho.

[twilit gulch]

Then make separate team with alna abaden

🤔

[patent gulch]

Also, what is a good ATalene comp?

[patent gulch]

How about this instead?

Or I could switch Mishka w ATalene.

[twilit gulch]

That team 4 looks rly weird

U have nevanthi?

[patent gulch]

Yea

[twilit gulch]

Maybe something like
alna abaden nevanthi Athalia Oden

[patent gulch]

How about Audrea instead of Athalia.

[twilit gulch]

Idk u can try it

[patent gulch]

Dope?

[twilit gulch]

Can also run
alna luc ferael Silas Athalia
Grez ABaden nevanthi Oden Mortas

Just some ideas

[patent gulch]

I’ll mix it up if needed

[twilit gulch]

Don't think ATalene is good this debuff cuz

[frozen crest]

t55

[alpine grove]

What’s your 5th team

[frozen crest]

gbs back to normal and scarlet wilders for 5th i guess

[alpine grove]

You add Daimon to gb?

[frozen crest]

will try

i tried abrutus and eorin

i cant tell the difference tho

[restive goblet]

I’m going to try Hodgkin in Gb since my Daimon is 203 and hodge is 209e33

[lapis moth]

Why klern works better for you

Is your Astar e30?

[frozen crest]

nop

[twilit gulch]

u keeping ferael frontline?

[frozen crest]

soon, had to delay it for twins and maybe brutud

doing default team again this 50

just checking whether scarlet gb would perform better or nah

[lapis moth]

Maybe it's the raku investment

[frozen crest]

ferael can survive for quite awhile with the debuff

[twilit gulch]

I'm not sure if I should put daimon or ferael front

[remote moat]

My best result so far has been treznor

[lapis moth]

Is 9f raku better than 8 for pvp

[remote moat]

Takes the pressure off oden an fereal a bitbso they can ramp

[twilit gulch]

Don't have

I'm pretty poor

[remote moat]

Raku seems to be suffering a hitnith this debuff

[lapis moth]

Yeah trez might be worth 200 just for this debuff lol

[frozen crest]

dun think so

[twilit gulch]

Has anyone tried desira?

[remote moat]

Not yet she's pretty low investment for me 203

25030 on trez so decent

[patent gulch]

@twilit gulch worked a charm.

[mortal sentinel]

Any ideas on where to improve?

[devout shore]

have me :((

team 4 3% :(((

[uneven flint]

3% is a hot take

[lapis moth]

[polar dune]

keep getting worst

[twilit gulch]

[round surge]

2% 🤢

[lapis moth]

@twilit gulch how did your cycle do this round? my random bs luc not so great so idk if I should try it

[sudden jasper]

Any idea how to improve?

[bright light]

use alna luc cycle + raku burst

scarlet team sucks this time, I wouldn’t use it before 6-7 teams

[sudden jasper]

Will cycle work with twins e and ezih e?

Who for alna in GB, daimon?

[lapis moth]

meh better than mine but twins still SI 0

these rounds much rng

same team can differ by 15-20% per different rounds smh

[twilit gulch]

Running this for last round

Hope it does well

[lapis moth]

think I'll try this though probably won't get t50

this debuff

[bright light]

why ldv not mid back

[lapis moth]

ah actually had scarlet there before but probably better, thank you

[bright light]

• did u try lorsan with raku? I assume u don’t have astar built as well

[lapis moth]

I have astar 301e0 not sure if it's enough

lorsan only E+

should I try it? and where athane in that case

[bright light]

Mishka, athane, raku, ldv, lorsan

And put fera with gb instead of daimon

At 5 teams, u can take out athane to another team and put astar his place

these r just ideas tho, keep checking ur teams wr and ur rank

[lapis moth]

Ok thank you, I'll try it

[frozen crest]

whats hendricks purpose there?

doesnt he only rescue backliners

[twilit gulch]

Oh yeah

Tbh idk lol

[mortal sentinel]

You're probably better off running estrilda

[twilit gulch]

This?

[lapis moth]

@bright light can I ask you next wilder to invest in from lorsan/saurus/nevanthi
and also next si30 e30 between zol, anasta, estrilda, yen

[mortal sentinel]

Should probably be fine

[twilit gulch]

[mortal sentinel]

could even use rosaline over mishka

Cause mishka could be used in a different comp

[nocturne token]

get lyca +20 for buffing thane

[mortal sentinel]

over daimon

[bright light]

Nevanthi I think > Saurus +30 > lorsan 9f

Si30 Anasta and e30 estrilda

Also engrave anasta after estrilda

[mortal sentinel]

Zol e30 kinda good too

[bright light]

not a prio before estrilda and anasta tho

I didn’t say it’s bad

[mortal sentinel]

AThane really letting me down this cycle :(

[lapis moth]

Thank you, I really appreciate it

[frozen crest]

@opal bone wr check

[opal bone]

[crystal cloud]

Hm Team still doing very bad :/ any other suggestions? Also linked my box

[lapis moth]

yen pos 4, swap mishka maybe for asoilse, team 4 maybe try abrutus, mishka, lyca, raku, astar/lorsan not sure

[crystal cloud]

why yen pos4? team 1 is doing great? ill try the updates. asolise is only l+, maybe desira instead?

[lapis moth]

asolise L better than 000 desira from my experience, and yen performs better at pos 4 while for ainz it is not relevant so it should work better

[crystal cloud]

ok then ill give it a shot. ill update here if scrambling begins. thanks 🙂

[lapis moth]

[frozen crest]

thanks

rip cycle wr

[opal bone]

It's been bad the entire time.

But cba

Having Athane would've been the easiest top50 of my life.

[frozen crest]

u wanna try alna luc cycle?

also heard that yen is pretty nice in luc cycle

[opal bone]

Then my AGB wr will go way down

[frozen crest]

cant be too sure

you know what they say

test it all

[opal bone]

I rather not test on the verge of team 5, and rewards being today

[hasty scaffold]

Rewards later

[lapis moth]

please t50

[lapis moth]

wtf this happened again

20 fights in and it changed to 5 teams

didn't even update them yet

[sacred notch]

Just set ur teams prematurely

[twilit gulch]

[still heron]

Could be me

[lapis moth]

wym

[still heron]

Im always forgeting my teams

[lapis moth]

lol I mean this is obviously a game issue though

[still heron]

Tbh i blame nerds

[lapis moth]

if it says the heroes will begin scrambling in 10 hours and moves up to 5 teams in the middle of the round this is obviously a bug

[twilit gulch]

Huh

of teams go up each 1000 points

[remote moat]

@twilit gulch 666 the number of the beaaast

[twilit gulch]

[remote moat]

You guys need to watch how close u are to the 1000 mark a set up next team accordingly

I agree but that's the work around

[lapis moth]

yeah fuck this

[sacred notch]

Being able to set 5 teams should open to u by like day 3 or smth 🤡

[lapis moth]

yeah but this is misleading

[sacred notch]

We're multiple months into TS, how have u been mislead

[lapis moth]

this is the 2nd time this happened how should I have known

looks like it happened when I moved up from initiate to veteran

[sacred notch]

https://tenor.com/view/get-fucked-gf-nats-what-i-reckon-clap-clapping-gif-17482248

[misty epoch]

@sacred notch What rank are you now?

[hasty scaffold]

It’s not a bug. That’s the reason they allow you to set teams way ahead of your current rank

[sacred notch]

Last time I checked, somewhere in the 50s

I think

[misty epoch]

I am 59th

[sacred notch]

I prob dropped them

[restive goblet]

Yeah the number of teams goes up with each division. It’s always worked like that.

[opal bone]

This feels like bait, no way that clueless.

[lapis moth]

That's just for convenience sake though

how does it explain them changing to a new set of teams in the middle of a 50 matches round

[hasty scaffold]

It’s been like that since TS started

[sacred notch]

Because you're in the next bracket

Ever 1000 trophies

[restive goblet]

It looks like this when you move up divisions

the two tabs will add up to 50 battles at the end of the round

[lapis moth]

yeah first time I noticed it tbh

can you drop a divison again after you moved up?

[restive goblet]

yes

[misty epoch]

That's cause you never rank up

[sacred notch]

https://tenor.com/view/mayweather-for-you-throw-gif-8082067

[restive goblet]

It’s easy to get knocked back down a division when you first move up, especially if your next team sucks

but usually the second time you stay in

[hasty scaffold]

I have yoyoed in between divisions before

[lapis moth]

If I changed the teams now what are the chances it would update if I move up and down?

meh this sucks

[hasty scaffold]

It won’t, you’ll have to wait until the next run

[lapis moth]

rewards tho

[misty epoch]

At least you learnt your lesson, next time you won't forget anymore

[storm moth]

im skill issued

i dont think i was in top 100 once since regions merge

[misty epoch]

Hi hello poe hoe

[misty epoch]

What region are you

[storm moth]

r38 bruh

this region is ass for some reason

[misty epoch]

That's newish

[storm moth]

yes it is

[misty epoch]

But without awk it's hard ig

[storm moth]

i mean i have whane

but not 30960

just 300

[misty epoch]

300 is kinda meh

[storm moth]

true

idk if i should save for his e60 or just do oden

[still heron]

Save

[hasty scaffold]

A Thame > Oden in my opinion if you are TS focused

[storm moth]

i mean would 300e60 whane make a difference

[still heron]

No

[storm moth]

i dont have furn for him

i got him too fast lmao

[hasty scaffold]

Not much he needs all the shizzle

[storm moth]

yeah ik

[still heron]

Thats normal

[storm moth]

im just going to finish oden for now

[lapis moth]

or whale some poe

[storm moth]

i need to whale shards and cores too then

i need like 9.5k shards atm

[misty epoch]

Why so much lol

[sacred notch]

I'm 8 pts behind u

[storm moth]

whane and twins

wait

was it 4750

or 3750

[sacred notch]

4500 for e60

3750 for 30

[misty epoch]

[storm moth]

oh then 7.5k lmao

not 9.5k

[misty epoch]

7.5k suddenly sounds a lot more manageable

[storm moth]

its still a lot smh

[livid mica]

u want to make twins e60 ?

thats not ideal

[sacred notch]

I'd imagine 7.5 is twins and whane to e30

[storm moth]

yes that ^^

i said 7.5k shards i think

[restive goblet]

I just ascended twins last night after hoarding forever and the rates were so shitty

48.5 per copy average for 14 copies

[misty epoch]

Isn't that only slightly above average of 45?

I've seen worse rates

[restive goblet]

average is like 37 or something

[misty epoch]

Ahh

[restive goblet]

with the pity factored in

[misty epoch]

All singles?

[restive goblet]

I probably did like twenty 10 pulls out of 680 pulls

and I don’t think I ever hit pity after pulling a copy on a ten pull, so I don’t think that actually hurt me

[storm moth]

just do your singles as fast as u can

and dont count

so u dont cry at night

[restive goblet]

I got alna in like 32 average so it’s karma I guess

think Lucy was like 40 average

Speaking of stargazing, is talene good in TS? It seems like I see her on high invest teams with like Brutus/Framton or Asolise/Tarnos a lot but not much otherwise

[sacred notch]

Imo u would build talene for cr over TS

There's just a coincidental overlap ig

[misty epoch]

^ I whole-heartedly agree 🙂

[storm moth]

when do you guys start to use cycle

well without alna at least

[lapis moth]

I think keep alna cycle till the end

the wr is pretty bad without alna

[storm moth]

yeah true

but i thought that it might change at like 6 or 7 teams

[lapis moth]

[storm moth]

1%

[lapis moth]

those are good win rates tbh

[brisk mist]

mhm! mine are awful lmao

[storm moth]

i know

thats why im disappointed

that im 1%

[misty epoch]

How many points off top 100?

I am barely over 50% wr lmao

[storm moth]

last time i checked i was 6 behind

[misty epoch]

Ya you can do it if the wr keeps up

I believe!

[storm moth]

prayge

[misty epoch]

🙏

[sudden jasper]

Who do you recomend as 3rd stargaze twins or haelus?

[twilit gulch]

Should've kept Hendrick instead of lyca

Was decent at 4 teams

[storm moth]

twins

unless you have 30960 thane

i would go haelus then

but thats my opinion

[crystal cloud]

Any help with the two underperforming teams :/?

[spark prism]

Your heroes are solid but the level of investment is too low. Missing a lot of +30s and engravings

Also furniture

[crystal cloud]

Sure I'm a newer player, still missing progress. So hero setups are good? Just investments missing? Or can I optimise the two lower teams in any way beside investment

[spark prism]

You should do some kind of mauler team. Woke Brutus, anasta, skreg, talene

[opal bone]

This debuff is mostly about good heroes and investment.

[safe harness]

Any ideas for good teams I could use?

[crystal cloud]

And replace what team?

[crystal cloud]

Investment is missing 😂 still time missing 😂

[gusty valley]

Doesn’t say a whole lot without also considering rank. 50% wr in top10% is pretty meh, 50% wr in top10 is pretty good…

Also, kind of amazed at ppl’s wr with cycle…

[twilit gulch]

U need alna or else it sucks

[still heron]

This is ts, not tr

[static bone]

Alna def kepps me in a 50 to 60 win rate for this before. Where im in the 30 to 40 wr without her in that cycle comp

Looks like i should finish at 75 for region 36 on this fist half of this ts
So thats sweet

[gusty valley]

Alna needed elsewhere…

[storm moth]

shes not needed in gbs tbh

you can run sth like hodge

[gusty valley]

Yeah, was just thinking that grez or hodge might work. Question is if it works good enough…

[storm moth]

my gbs is at 70% ish and cycle with alna at 50

[gusty valley]

…will test after first rewards. 😄

[twilit gulch]

T48

[storm moth]

[misty epoch]

That makes me want try it too

[storm moth]

but i have scarlet in gbs too

[misty epoch]

Or I was thinking Athane Alna

My Athane struggling lol

[static bone]

Do u have trez. I use him in gb

[gusty valley]

That’s kind pf the question. Will the increase in cycle actually be bigger than the drop in GB?

[storm moth]

maybe i will get into top 100 with 6 or 7 teams

[storm moth]

well without alna cycle was at 20-30% and gbs at 70-80%

so yes i think it is

[gusty valley]

No, mine’s a weakling…

[static bone]

Trez and gb keeps me 70+

[gusty valley]

Thing is…

[twilit gulch]

[static bone]

How many battles is that

[twilit gulch]

Can try Abaden Grez

[gusty valley]

28, in five teams.

[static bone]

Yeah idk thats tough.

[restive goblet]

T35
Never got top 50 before

[static bone]

U technically could prob split that team up into 2 teams with solid win rates. But idk if it will be worse or not

What r u doing with the rest of your graveborn.

U could try to make some with grez, silas, oden and luc

[static bone]

Gz

[gusty valley]

Silas os helping AThane, the rest’s mostly sittin around a t m. But gonna try something with Grez-Oden…

[opal bone]

I was 50th with 3 battles left, ended 58. I am both happy and sad.

[static bone]

Grez with oden and luc would prob outperfom luc cycle

I would imagine

[still heron]

When do we get rewards? Again

[sacred notch]

Reset

[static bone]

At reset we get the 1st half rewards

[still heron]

Im asking this every week

[static bone]

Oof well atleast its top 100

[still heron]

Thank god i saved my rank

Holy fück

[gusty valley]

Yes, it might…

[still heron]

I was 4% this morning

[storm moth]

save my rank too pls

im fucked

[static bone]

I was close i dropped out of top 100 with 9 battles left. Then finished 75. So not bad i gues

[still heron]

26 rn

[gusty valley]

Can’t get much worse anyway… 😆

[static bone]

Lmao

[still heron]

Whats ur Region?

[gusty valley]

R8

[still heron]

Thats a hard one

[gusty valley]

(But within top50, so there’s competition…)

More or less GB carryin!

[still heron]

Top 50 is always hard

Kinda

[static bone]

So this is ony small sample size since i only had 5 battles left before event ended. But what can i change on these 5. I was gonna swap scarlet with lvd and see if that works better.

[gusty valley]

Yeah, didn’t expect to be honestly.

[still heron]

Im only Region 32 so my life is much easier

[opal bone]

Are you top 100 yet?

[storm moth]

no

and im not going to be this debuff

[still heron]

Big skill issue

[red apex]

I was in top 1 to 3% and for some reason got into top 100 with worse win rate lol

[storm moth]

bro my region is do ass

[still heron]

Most regions are a$$

[storm moth]

true

why did they merge them

i was chilling in top 100

[opal bone]

Time to work for it.

[storm moth]

give some poe and i will

[twilit gulch]

I heard u get better poe rates if ur in t100

[civic sage]

@opal bone where are you in TS

spelling left the chat

[opal bone]

58th

[storm moth]

i heard you get good if you dont tryhard rift

[civic sage]

Must be e60 Yen

[opal bone]

My Yen team is always 88%+

But my 4th team is 10-20% and 5th team is < 4%

If I had Athane like the rest of the top 100 I'd be chilling in top 50.

[quasi light]

My AThane is currently 20% wr

[opal bone]

That's a lot better than 2%

[lapis moth]

did you try yen team without ainz

like merlin and joan in the same team

[opal bone]

No

And I don't think I will.

Someone else feel free to experiment.

[lapis moth]

why not

[opal bone]

I'm not risking my t100

By experimenting

[lapis moth]

just 1 round

I literally tested every round this TS

all you need to do is put your best teams in the last one right

[strong nexus]

Do you know a team with grzzhul / Oden without Alna ?

[still heron]

Another Asta

[opal bone]

@civic sage

[twilit gulch]

He has alna tho

Can try alna luc and ABaden grez

[civic sage]

Grezhul Anasta Oden + 2 others

even Nevanthi could possibly work

[lapis moth]

why do everyone have abaden all of a sudden

[civic sage]

but idk if that works in older regions

[civic sage]

Because Abaden OP

[strong nexus]

I am top1% region 7

[twilit gulch]

ABaden best awakened this debuff

[lapis moth]

yeah but it's like saying get atalene* because she's good in the dot debuff

[civic sage]

A lot of ppl getting Baden already have Solise/Brutus

[strong nexus]

What do think about grez Mishka Oden nevanthi anasta

[civic sage]

You can try it and see how it goes

[misty epoch]

I am gonna experiment with all 5 teams, fk it

[spark prism]

Probably the thoran scarlet team.

[crystal cloud]

Hm this team is doing better currently

[spark prism]

You can try move mishka and Lyca to team 3 replacing talene and thoran (Daimon would be frontline) Then mauler team for team 5

But again I don’t know if it’ll work because Wutus, anasta etc all need high investment

[crystal cloud]

Ok I'll wait and see how its going tomorrow on next round

[wise trail]

Ainz team performs better with ainz instead of Abrutus

I've seen the GB team work fine without Alna maybe I'll move her to lucretia

[hasty scaffold]

Ainz and Bawden carrying me. Others are just so so.

[frozen crest]

t38

[opal bone]

Again, how does your GB have 15% higher wr w/o Alna in it.

[frozen crest]

better oden

[opal bone]

Mine's e44

[frozen crest]

oh no im blind

[static bone]

1st one was the 4 team, then it switched to 5 team for last 5 battles. Any help on what i can do to strengthen the 5 team.

[obtuse mauve]

Maybe replace Lyca with more healing. She's kinda bad this debuff

Or more cc

[wise lion]

in shambles rn

[round surge]

Stargazing who next would benefit me the most in TS? After 1 more Healus

[static bone]

Twins to 1 star would prob be good

[round surge]

should I bring Atalene to 1 star too?

[static bone]

Tbh im not super familair with her

[twilit gulch]

If u have enough cores, then yeah but you're gonna want to E60 haelus as well

If not go for zaph

[toxic prawn]

My first time reaping ts rewards and I gotta show it off

[icy spruce]

Just barely

[toxic prawn]

Has anyone tried izold? Feel like he’s good for this mode

[static bone]

Decent start

Hoping team 5 wr will come up some

[alpine grove]

Top 22% (I hate my life)

[alpine grove]

Also how are you at 6 teams already

[static bone]

Im only 5 teams

[alpine grove]

My counting skills are bad apparently

[static bone]

Lol

[gusty valley]

Thought so too, but tested last time, and wasn't impressed. Mine is only 309E0 though...

[mortal sentinel]

Hoping this works

[lapis moth]

thoughts on how to get these to work better? Lyca and Zol could also fit somewhere

[lime zinc]

LDV really doesn't work without Lyca and Zol, Scarlet also desperately wants Lyca too

[lapis moth]

[lime zinc]

Also I wouldn't use Lorsan unless 9F and even then I don't always use him

[lapis moth]

How's this

[lime zinc]

I think you're probably better off using either Raku over Scarlet or doing Scarlet wilders + AwThane burst
Should just test em out anyway since this TS cycle is super weird and stuff performs diff in diff regions

[lapis moth]

Alright, thank you

[frozen crest]

hows ur gb performance?

[lapis moth]

not bad

[frozen crest]

what rank first calculation?

[lapis moth]

51 with 2 useless teams rip

[granite mason]

if u have Atalene you can use her instead of daimon

[frozen crest]

so close

[lapis moth]

didn't change my 5 teams and game moved from 4 to 5 in the middle of the round

[frozen crest]

oh

[lapis moth]

apparently everyone knows about it except me

[frozen crest]

das why i constantly check score

fear of getting left behind

[lapis moth]

only L

[frozen crest]

my idea is slotting scarlet in gbs then athane, raku
but who knows how it will perform

[granite mason]

throw her at the trash can then

[lapis moth]

might try her instead of daimon

[frozen crest]

might perform worse use at your discretion

[lapis moth]

now is a good time to test stuff

[remote moat]

Sec found a decent skarlet comp by accident

[frozen crest]

my raku is 44 and scar at 40

there's not much i can test anymore unfortunately

still fucking confused at how i get 57% wr in a 50-battle round often

[lapis moth]

this debuff is a lot of rng

few good teams and if by luck you get slotted against them you lose

[frozen crest]

how's that supposed to work

[remote moat]

Zol is balls unless full built

[lapis moth]

yeah not sure it would work with this debuff but your region might be tougher

[remote moat]

I had decent success with, arthur mishka, queen, ldv, raku

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