treasure-scramble

[restive goblet]

Did you try five pull already

[opal bone]

Yes, was also 6%

In the first round of today.

[verbal root]

Ooh.. I also have a 6% team

I will try to bring Estrilda back to Scarlet and build something around ASolise though

[misty epoch]

Could try Swolise Nev and some wilders bs go

[verbal root]

Yeah.. still at 3 Nevanthi copies only though 😦

I tried her in cycle but it didnt work..

[lilac bobcat]

Ainz with 88% is cursed

Ts is such a clownery

[civic sage]

Ainz just OP

[opal bone]

Ainz is there to look pretty and be a stun bot if mommy Yen doesn't wipe the floor with enemy team instantly.

[lilac bobcat]

Mf won't see 50% wr in my region

[opal bone]

[lilac bobcat]

Is just 40% below

[opal bone]

You need thicker Yen.

[lilac bobcat]

She works fine

Dude just got deleted

[opal bone]

[lilac bobcat]

Ldv oneshots the whole team

[twilit gulch]

[misty epoch]

Damn, ur region is hard af

[dusk tundra]

Not even top 50 🥲

Going to try this

Idk if I should use Mishka or astar team 5

Or even Ezio

Talene or Awakened Talene for team 5?

[misty epoch]

I guess leave Talene there since you had 80% wr with that team?

But not sure, I don't own either of them

[lime zinc]

I think both work...?
Talene synergizes more with Skreg since she more consistently dives
AwTal outputs more dmg

[lilac bobcat]

91st

Solid 100% on abrutus

[restive goblet]

Did anybody try 5 pull with ABaden in TS?

[dusk tundra]

I doubt anyone with ABaden runs 5 pull

[restive goblet]

Would be pretty good if he could get a decent winrate outside alna Gb without whale heroes

yeah but it would be nice to know

if he could make a decent 6th/7th team when you don’t have a bunch of pvp heroes yet

[solemn sage]

People are using him in alna GB because that team has a bad winrate without him now

Alna grez has been bad for whales for a long time, and alna luc is falling off now too

He might get moved elsewhere in 7th team but not before then probably

[solemn sage]

All my winrates going down because I'm up to rank 34

That random wilder team pretty bad though, worse than scarlet cycle

gonna give it one more shot with astar + mishka, need to figure out something for 7th team anyways

[low iron]

I actually saw one person using aBaden in 5p early on in like, 3 or 4 teams and I remember aBaden's clone popped up where they all got pulled into which is good for attacking quickly, but Eironn was still the target and he died really fast, and so they lost the match. I haven't really seen it since so I assume the win-rate must not have been too great.

I'll let you know if I see it again but I don't have aBaden to try it myself. I think they were just experimenting - and he was frontlining if I remember right.

[nocturne token]

5p like this? @low iron

athane got deleted somewhere lol

[low iron]

Yeah - I think so^

[nocturne token]

I could try and tell u later

Dont think it would work tbh xd

[lapis moth]

[low iron]

Nah, I don't think so either, there are better places for him - but I would ping Henry about it and good luck to you if you do. I'm curious too but don't think it'll end well. I just assumed they had a bad win-rate because I haven't seen it since.

[granite mason]

Eironn cant pull anyone

[fickle jolt]

I'm struggling to see if there's any improvements I can make. The 2nd, 4th are the same at a bit over 50%. The 3rd I've used in temp rift, had to remove Mishka and Lyca from the scarlet comp for the burst team. My zap is only 200 so I put Morael in instead. My Frampton and ASolise is only mythic as well. So not that usable yet

[lime zinc]

So Yen's better than Ezio for Ainz dims?

[polar dune]

if your ainz has trouble dishing dmg

ur ezio won't help , yen can do dmg and protect the dumb ass

[lime zinc]

Makes sense

[gloomy lichen]

Does yen have to be in 4th position to work?

[solemn sage]

4th position is best yes

[gloomy lichen]

Hows geralt in TS? Anyone use him?

[polar dune]

the nerd in my TS who is rank 1 keep forcing it

[storm moth]

are you 2nd flaw?

[polar dune]

im like 9th

changing comp too often

[hasty scaffold]

Very competitive region then

[storm moth]

bigger whales than flaw tf

[solemn sage]

Flaw was worried about not being top 20 after region merge

[storm moth]

[lapis moth]

can always whale more

[polar dune]

this is top 20 btw

5 ppl there are max RC with full e80 awaken

actually top 20 are all max RC

[lapis moth]

wow

so whaling more won't help

[polar dune]

its team comp

[vale imp]

@hasty scaffold we need to be in the same region again, grimdol is a bully lol

It's literally just us against eachother today

[solemn sage]

RC doesn't matter in TS, just gives an idea of how whale everyone is

[vale imp]

I think my overall wr is 45% or some trash like that 😂

[solemn sage]

There's still a big $ difference between max RC and having full E80s

[lapis moth]

yeah was referring to the full e80 awakend part

[vale imp]

I feel like max RC is a natural side effect of whaling enough for e80s

[hasty scaffold]

Well at least he’s a good player I guess. One of the whales I fight just goes random bs go and it wins. I’m so fucking salty

[polar dune]

mad cus u cant beat random bs go

[vale imp]

https://tenor.com/view/random-bullshit-go-moon-knight-random-random-bullshit-gif-25725102

[polar dune]

https://tenor.com/view/atg-capa-stucapa-studiocapa-pandu-gif-24944581

[vale imp]

And yeah, grimdol is in bnblue so he does well with his comps

[hasty scaffold]

What’s the point of having comps???!!!

[vale imp]

Takes LC too lol

[polar dune]

the comp is the wallet that they smack in ur face

[vale imp]

Eventually the comps have to matter right? Lol

[hasty scaffold]

Yeah imma just let the AI do my teams next time

[still heron]

Sky is pissed

[vale imp]

I made that mistake once lmao

Once was enough

[gloomy lichen]

Any f2p in t100 in an older region?

[still heron]

Probably not

[gusty valley]

Would be highly surprising. Though with heavily invested ABrutus and AThane, and having somehow built for PvP rather than PvE/CR, poooooooossibly doable. Would likely have required the ability to see into the future though...

[bitter hull]

Light spender in R2 here, can hit top 3% max

[lapis moth]

Anything you guys would change? keep jumping between 42-48

5p got like 50% the first round and dims also worked better, now they suck

[misty epoch]

Merlin instead of Mortas, else Arthur if no Merlin

[lapis moth]

I should get arthur already

[twilit gulch]

How is ur ainz team so low

[storm moth]

yen > mortas?

[lapis moth]

idk maybe it's gear?

[misty epoch]

I think she does a better job at protecting Ainz than Mortas, Mortas really just boosts dmg and nothing else

[restive goblet]

Which team was Geralt on?

[dusk tundra]

Because Mortas and Ainz are slow. I don’t know anything about yen

[storm moth]

eh not like i can take her out of my ldv raku comp without ldv

[misty epoch]

Not having LDV hurts

[storm moth]

yen is my budget ldv lmaoo

but its +30 M+ whane that carries in there ngl

[dusk tundra]

Giving this a try 🫠

[restive goblet]

From what I’ve seen from this buff, when an Ainz mortas team goes against Ainz yen, it’s up to whether or not yen can kill Mortas with her first frost magic basically. The dim team is pretty tanky and very often have shields up, so Yen’s ult ends up not doing much most of the time and the mortas buff on Ainz wins in the attrition battle

[twilit gulch]

Looking thru replays it seems like yen does way more dmg than ainz and my yen has t0 resonance

[restive goblet]

Yen stomps on most teams though because she can often get first kill

My Yen and Ainz often do similar damage, but just as often Ainz does 0 damage because Yen kills them all first

[twilit gulch]

Gotta invest in yen now

[restive goblet]

but if it’s like yen kills 2 and then Ainz cleans up with ult, the damage is roughly equal

[twilit gulch]

Is geralt any good? Haven't really seen anyone use him

[misty epoch]

How many copies until A?

[storm moth]

2

[misty epoch]

From what I've seen, he's used only in end game campaign

[storm moth]

i got 1 today

[misty epoch]

tot hoe

[twilit gulch]

Thought he would be a decent pvp unit

[misty epoch]

Niceeee

I am currently in serious need of silver/gold emblems

For Yenn/Wutus

Also need furns

[storm moth]

im a core, poe, chests, sg, tot, chall coins hoe atm

[restive goblet]

that sounds exhausting

[misty epoch]

AKA poverty hoe

[dusk tundra]

Sucks to suck

[storm moth]

aka everything

[twilit gulch]

Don't have to specify

We know ur a hoe

[civic sage]

Sounds like your broke

[dusk tundra]

I just +10 every hero except Ulmus and Serius

[storm moth]

sounds like you dont have alna

[restive goblet]

[misty epoch]

I wish I had that amount of silver emblems to +10 everyone

[still heron]

[civic sage]

Bad comeback

[civic sage]

Why are you here

[storm moth]

[misty epoch]

[still heron]

Coz i can

[restive goblet]

10 points out of top 100

[storm moth]

im 40 out of t100

im not gonna get it 100% sure

[dusk tundra]

Sad times for these two. Even walker and Khasos are +10

[misty epoch]

Their turn will come as well

[dusk tundra]

In due time

3F too? Menace

[storm moth]

where are you in camp?

[dusk tundra]

I have them on my “do not furn” list

[quartz salmon]

same, hard times

[solemn sage]

Soon™️

[dusk tundra]

Geez

Gotta catch ‘em all

[twilit gulch]

[dusk tundra]

I’m not even close

[twilit gulch]

Isn't it better to 36f useful units at that point?

[solemn sage]

Gotta catch em all

[storm moth]

im confused did you quit or no

[dusk tundra]

That’s the path I went. Even +18f is good

[twilit gulch]

The completionist

[dusk tundra]

I quit but I’m just wasting time. Not really playing

[storm moth]

fair enough

[dusk tundra]

I’ll probably disappear for a month soon

[civic sage]

Dw about that

[storm moth]

im just curious

[quartz salmon]

chap 40 stopped pushing I guess

[carmine chasm]

Any suggestions for team 6? I was thinking about 5p but not sure

[restive goblet]

I just realized ABaden wears high heels 👠

[misty epoch]

Managed to get Lucy cycle up to 43% but now other teams are flopping

[twilit gulch]

Gonna hit 7 teams soon

[restive goblet]

I’m 3 points behind 100

and I was 40 points behind like 5 battles ago

so much rng

[solemn sage]

Shit I moved to 7 teams and didn't get screenshot of my winrates at 6 teams

[restive goblet]

It sucks when your bad teams get matched against bad teams and still lose. Like why can’t the Brutus and thane teams go against my jank cycle team instead of beating my Brutus team

[sacred notch]

If I get knocked out of t100, someone is going to die

[twilit gulch]

😂

Are there separate rewards for scoring high for CR region?

[sacred notch]

No

Region doesn't matter in cr

Just global

[twilit gulch]

Lame

[solemn sage]

oden scarlet cycle still doing its thing

[lapis moth]

thoughts on this for 7 teams?

[misty epoch]

Nice win rate

So satisfying lol

[lapis moth]

daimon 5p same as scarlet and alna gb

should I move lorsan somewhere else maybe

maybe get back to my previous 6 teams and use random bs as a 7 or something

[restive goblet]

3 fights isn’t much to go on

[lapis moth]

yeah ok I just checked and looked like the weak teams beat other weak teams and strong teams lost to strong teams so makes sense

[restive goblet]

Yeah the rng from matchups against OP teams is pretty large with only a few fights

The round is over and I’m 5 points off top 100

[lapis moth]

you are f2p in an old region right? isn't it kind of impressive?

[restive goblet]

Not that old of a region on this account, but yeah f2p

Region 33

[lapis moth]

does killing talene or thoran count as a kill even if they resurrect after

[wise lion]

no

[lapis moth]

thank you

[low iron]

I understand that pain. I went from t61 -> t52 -> t77 -> t64 -> exact points in t100 but out of it because of RNG. Honestly, my problem seems to come from my Scarlet team jumping from 40 -> 60 -> 30% win-rate so it's just hope for good RNG at this point as there's not much else I can slot without making something else fall apart.

Everyone is so close together in points for anywhere that's not the top 20, in my region at least, that a big win or loss can jump you up or down like, 30 places.

[gusty valley]

Yeah. The merge seem to have made the top 60-150:ish very very much closer. Plenty of smaller spenders I guess...

...one bad matchup and you jump 10+ places, even this late in the season. Previously it tended to stabilize quite a bit after 4:ish teams...

[low iron]

Right.

Like, I was solidly 30~60 before without too much worry and now people are so packed up tight like sausages that are set to burst.

[carmine shale]

Only the top 20 are in a league of their own

[icy spruce]

Yen didn’t pop anyone, actually no clue how I win vs his investment diffs plus Mortas

[dusk tundra]

Literally have no idea what to use for team 6

Going to try this

[misty epoch]

How was Scarlet team doing?

Or have you tried Scarlet team already?

[dusk tundra]

Less than 15%

[misty epoch]

Oof

[dusk tundra]

I’d put Anasta over Kren. I can’t imagine him being useful since he does small damage quickly instead of burst and also being fragile

Whatever team I put Anasta on increases WR

[quaint isle]

I know % rank is relative but if you're weaker than x+2% ranking in the server that get merged with you, your ranking drops. Got 1~2% before and now I got around 4~6% territory

[carmine shale]

My rank actually went up since the merge lol

Was hovering between t100 and 2% and now I've been t40 consistently

[quaint isle]

Have you got any key units that significantly improved your win rate (AThane/ABrutus) recently?

[dusk tundra]

The power of a God

[carmine shale]

40% winrate rn, and rank has gone UP 2 points lmfao

This region is so free

@quaint isle and yes, Athane

[sour glacier]

winrate is low when you're at a good rank, since all you're facing is high ranking people / mostly whales

[carmine shale]

Yeah I'm t40 rn, so that makes sense

[gloomy lichen]

Drop to 2% on the last day.

[restive goblet]

The way she goes

[low iron]

Just pray for good matchmaking RNG if you're in the pack at the back. 🙏

[gloomy lichen]

I hop around rank 95 to 2%

[low iron]

In that case, hope for the best RNG because there's probably still a chance.

[solemn sage]

Scarlet is just bad at high rank

[shut vessel]

Don't use scarlet

[solemn sage]

Not many other options

Time for stall

[carmine shale]

Pretty sad stall is better than scarlet

[mystic warren]

Could I post my heroes here to get advice on teams for this round + which Awakened and Celepogs pull next? Very much struggling with the game mode.

[solemn sage]

Okay scarlet recovered a bit in final 13 battles

[low iron]

Currently t52. Going to take the coward's way and just hope I stay top 100 without messing with teams even if I probably should.

And nice Perp, 1 in 5 battles over 1 in 10 is a lot safer feeling. 🙏

[hasty scaffold]

T52 should be fine and yeah I avoid changing teams when it's rewards time

[solemn sage]

I was rank 35 when it was 11% and I'm rank 36 when it's 20%

so I'm not too worried either way

[low iron]

Right-right.

[solemn sage]

But yeah if you change anything it should only be in your lowest winrate teams, and only if it doesn't come at the cost of your good teams

My 5 good teams are exact same as when we only had 5 teams

and my rank has gone up from 45 to 35 since then because I kept them the same, and I'm seeing a lot of opponents using nerfed versions

[gloomy lichen]

Im 3 points away from t100. Pray

[low iron]

Yeah - it's trying to fit together the last ones that can mess things up. And it's good to have 5 solids winning teams over cutting them into mediocre team to try and salvage a bad team with how the points seem to work and with everyone so close to one another.
Seems safer to get steady +4~11s and a chance of -1s, over a steady stream of +2-6s with a chance of nightmare -9s in with the +14s or whatever.

Good luck Emp. 🙏

[polar dune]

yep scarlet is horrible

[hasty scaffold]

I completely abandoned any form of cycle for this debuff, I can't get it to work 😢

[polar dune]

went from 13 to 6

[low iron]

Nice - best of luck staying top 10!

[polar dune]

if ur not first

ur last

[opal bone]

Teams 6&7 have 4% win rate between them.

[dusk tundra]

Mid

[solemn sage]

interesting

wonder how well abrutus cycle would do if he wasn't so beefed

not gonna risk it for final exploration but might try it next time this debuff comes around

[storm moth]

im skill issue

[quartz salmon]

Same

t6 and t7 are doing terribly

[storm moth]

im not even 1% bruh

scarlet is ass this round

[quartz salmon]

Scarlet is doing great for me lol

And yeah t7 is at 0% I’m not even joking

Well when I was 26 battles in so I may get 1%

[wide wasp]

What abt cycle?

[storm moth]

skeepies ch39 when

[quartz salmon]

Cycle worst from what I see

[wide wasp]

My scarlet is at 89% at 1% and my 2nd highest team is at 60%

[quartz salmon]

What you need is e80

You run cycle or burst ?

[wide wasp]

When 5star call

[quartz salmon]

Ouch

Bro fr whale this event and get frags

Waiting for 5* is so annoying

[storm moth]

^^^

[wide wasp]

Idk.. Raine lyca estrilda

And mishka

[quartz salmon]

Burst then

Yeah same burst is doing great

Don’t you have scarlet e60 ?

[wide wasp]

30960 5star

[wide wasp]

Bought the whole stock, and i only have 39 left to go

[quartz salmon]

Argh that’s annoying

[quartz salmon]

Lesgoo that’s what we want

I have the same :))

That’s probably why our burst works so well

[storm moth]

nvm mine is at 60%

[misty epoch]

Last round, I am not even bothering to change teams

Pray to rng god 🙏

[sacred notch]

Shouldn't we still have 50 more battles to go?

[wide wasp]

[misty epoch]

Yup

[sacred notch]

I can't view any battle report

Oh nvm

[misty epoch]

Last round just started

[sacred notch]

Ahh

[twilit gulch]

Oop

I forgot to change my 7th team

[misty epoch]

Damn, random bs got 72% wr

Or is it considered random bs if it has 72% wr?

[toxic prawn]

Any advice for this scrub?

[opal bone]

[opal bone]

TS is literally over.

[misty epoch]

Wdym?

Can set for next time

[opal bone]

Next time there's an entirely different buff

[twilit gulch]

Next time this buff comes around

[toxic prawn]

I don’t have the luxury of changing my teams too much

[twilit gulch]

What's ur rank

[misty epoch]

I mean next time this buff comes

[twilit gulch]

Prob will have more options by then tbh

[toxic prawn]

Top 6% in 39

[opal bone]

That's what you get for e60'ing Daimon.

[toxic prawn]

Ever new player gonna make mistakes

[opal bone]

You're not a "new" player anymore when you're ready to e60 a character.

[twilit gulch]

Poggers

309e60 Daimon

[misty epoch]

Since when does e60'ing someone makes you not a new player anymore

[toxic prawn]

Daimon got me to where I am I gotta show him some respect

[twilit gulch]

Can engrave pretty early on

[opal bone]

[civic sage]

You need to fix your comps, try running smth similar to this

(Alna for Daimon though)

Might not have all of the investments but some of your team compositions are very worrying

idk why you have Ainz in GBs

Daimon can go in Team 7

[lapis moth]

[twilit gulch]

My revenge

[lapis moth]

picking on my noob teams

[twilit gulch]

ATalene cycle was a bad idea

Was gonna change it but woke up too late

[wide wasp]

Skill issue

[lapis moth]

wtf geralt better than M abrutus?

the pushback with kren why didn't I think of that

[dusk tundra]

What's bs

[nocturne token]

You can say it has stable wr

[twilit gulch]

[twilit gulch]

Was thinking of maybe making a team with geralt yen and kren

And fane + tank

[lapis moth]

well looks like geralt can be useful

[granite mason]

geralt op

[lapis moth]

luc 5p highest winrate team

[twilit gulch]

[opal bone]

And I thought Raku's region was free.

[carmine shale]

He has to deal with strippersteve tho

We got okeke :/

[opal bone]

You realise he probably didn't play him even once.

[lapis moth]

Well if he wasn't here everyone else would move up a rank so the point is valid

[alpine grove]

Huge W on the Daimon 5 pull (with Khazard?)

[twilit gulch]

Better than 0%

[obtuse mauve]

I got top100 during the whole week. Now, in the last leg, i get my best wr up to now, but fall to 1%... TS has some seriously weird calculations

[wide wasp]

This team is somehow kinda working

And my Q5p is at 19%

[icy surge]

Eh, my teams are always bad

I'm too lazy to fix any

I usually, end on 1% anyway

I can get better, but meh

[wide wasp]

Top100 rewards OP tho

[icy surge]

Honestly, I've never checked

Let me take a look

[twilit gulch]

Gonna run something like this next time

[wide wasp]

Idk with this freeze debuff if thats gonna work...

[icy surge]

I'm having good heroes, I guess, but I dunno

It's too much work to set up the teams pets etc

I'm OK with 1%

[twilit gulch]

I meant this debuff the next time around

Gonna come up with something else for blizzard

[icy surge]

Not sure if the test server it's ahead with the buffs

Maybe you can copy from there if so

[opal bone]

We already had freeze debuff before.

80th, somehow finished week 2 higher than week 1 for the first time.

[misty epoch]

Wtf

[sacred notch]

Can someone check difference between t100 and t50 rewards?

[misty epoch]

Ainz 100%

[opal bone]

I think you mean Yen Dims*

[misty epoch]

I guess Yenn makes a huge diff

[opal bone]

And it's been 90%+ entire time.

[misty epoch]

That's nuts

[lapis moth]

which region are you from? trying to help a guildie from region 36

[opal bone]

38

[lapis moth]

ah nice

[civic sage]

Ainz Dims

[opal bone]

Don't try simping Ainz without even e60ing him.

Fake prophet.

[civic sage]

I'll get to him soon

[storm moth]

i want to use her in dims

[civic sage]

Then use her

[storm moth]

who gonna be my budget ldv then

[verbal root]

Finished 75th in R35. That 5 pull was a very lucky find.

[twilit gulch]

Can check the rewards yourself if you just go to a different region and view the rewards there

[sacred notch]

https://tenor.com/view/keeping-up-with-the-k-ardashians-kuwtk-kim-kardashian-bed-sleep-gif-20015104

[twilit gulch]

Ended up 48 with a 0% team

I'll take it

[low iron]

[opal bone]

Horror story.

[carmine shale]

Ended t62, crazy considering I was t41 with 20 battles left

[twilit gulch]

That's what happened to me round 1

[low iron]

Most people are just packed together really tightly now so big changes can happen.

[alpine grove]

I’m top 40% :/ I hate this

[sudden jasper]

For new account with no Investment made in Warrior is it still recomended to get wutus or whane?

TS Focused account

[twilit gulch]

Whane

If u think u can hold t100

[sudden jasper]

Don't make it till 100 but was pretty close

[sacred notch]

I think you're still too new to even be thinking about some heroes

If ur discord join date is the same day u started the game

[sudden jasper]

I have almost 300 Tc so i need to chose one for furniture so when i get one of them i can max them

[sacred notch]

Don't worry about them for now either way

Just continue with ur current wl

[civic sage]

Wutus

[polar dune]

4th

With this sht

[vale imp]

Not quite as close as this one got lol

[polar dune]

New kraken

[twilit gulch]

[vale imp]

[polar dune]

I’m not new

[hasty scaffold]

Grats!

Grats also sensei 🙂

[solemn sage]

Atalene bumped cycle up another 10%

[steady hill]

darn merged or without merge still 2%

[gloomy lichen]

t100 to 0.4%

[nocturne token]

Thats good isnt it? More rewards

[steady hill]

yeaaa

[granite mason]

[silent ether]

😭

[granite mason]

[restive goblet]

Thoran 5 pull with 24%

nice job

[steady hill]

F

[silent ether]

fuck off

[steady hill]

jeez do you even lose

[wide wasp]

I went from 6% to 3.5%

With new merge

[polar dune]

went from 1st/2nd to 4th and as far as top 21 at one point

[granite mason]

[granite mason]

where have u been

[opal bone]

Poor you.

[opal bone]

He's not in the server anymore. (again)

[granite mason]

tf

[polar dune]

😔 its rough out here u know

can't see them diamond's medal anymore when u go to collect

i'll miss you diamond medal

[wide wasp]

Skill issue

[hasty scaffold]

Just slap them with the wallet comp. Very OP. You’ll be number 1 again in no time

[vale imp]

Yeah that's like 45% total wr lol

[desert spade]

Wow how did this player hit the final division?

And so close to a cap of 6999 prestige.

[solemn sage]

The only max account in the region

[desert spade]

How can I choose a different region?

[solemn sage]

Start over in a different server

R2 is S36-63

[desert spade]

Ah darn.

[hasty scaffold]

Actually I want to know what happens if they get to 6999 lol

[obtuse mauve]

Why would it stop there?

[hasty scaffold]

That’s the highest rank

[twilit gulch]

Don't think there's a cap to point

[hasty scaffold]

Actually okeke is 7000+ so it’s not capped

[frozen crest]

8 teams duh

[obtuse mauve]

The rule is 6000+, there's nothing else stated that I could find

[twilit gulch]

Yea wouldn't make sense for it to cap at 7000

[hasty scaffold]

Where have you been hiding?

[frozen crest]

was too busy playing ae

spectator is a hard role

[twilit gulch]

Anyone want me for HF

I have AThane

[wide wasp]

Why u left server?

[wide wasp]

If u cant find anyone ill join

[sacred notch]

Only 1k trophies wtf

[twilit gulch]

[static bone]

Is there any guide for team layout for each differ ts.

[sacred notch]

Nah, gotta get the feel for what others are using and what's good

[restive goblet]

Also people are still figuring out what works best at different stages.

but usually it’s just variations on what’s already good

[polar dune]

Don’t think ppl are still figuring out

They have a basic grasp

Its just innovation for higher rank now

[gloomy lichen]

Depend on region as well.

[static bone]

Yeah up until the merger ive been top100 every week. But thos week i missed top 100 by 10 points. So i was just gonna see if i could help out what teams i already use

[restive goblet]

You can always follow people who are higher up the ladder than you to find out what they’re using.

[nocturne token]

follow those who has similar heroes/investments as you and above you. dont just copy top 10 and wonder why it wouldnt work

[burnt ocean]

can i ask meta comp on this channel?

[misty epoch]

For TS sure, but most people will probably just tell you to copy others' formations

[craggy crown]

Been trying some stuff here and there, copying formations but haven't really found the nack for it. Any chance I could get some suggestions for teams with this box?
https://afkalc.com/hero-list/F6SY3eG2i7TpOma8m1M9L2wm0JK2

Best I've hit is rank 20% orso, can't seem to get higher than, if that's possible with my box.

[opal bone]

Try a screenshot perhaps.

But your best bet is to look over what other people are using and copy.

[polar dune]

Other are using alaro

[opal bone]

[hasty scaffold]

Which region are you?

[polar dune]

I am region one five

[hasty scaffold]

Lol not you sensei, Was asking the one who wanted advice about why he's 20%. I looked at their box and it could be that they're in an older region but hasn't kept up with the progression in that region. Maybe took a break or something

[craggy crown]

As I just stated, already did that, hence why I asked for suggestions

Oops, replied to the wrong part of the comment

[craggy crown]

If you mean server, I'm in 808

Haven't really taken any big breaks, but I'm not really a spender either

or well *Haven't taken any breaks period

[hasty scaffold]

You're not in old region. In newer regions, f2p can get to top 100 if they run an optimal account

There are f2ps that post here who have good placement. Keep an eye out for them when it's near TS time

[craggy crown]

Gotcha, so no current suggestions then I take it

[frozen crest]

or even top 50

[hasty scaffold]

Yeah sure :p

Raku can you recommend teams then pls

[frozen crest]

my teams prolly wouldnt work for region that old

[hasty scaffold]

It’s not that old prolly region 37ish

Maybe Asta can help

[craggy crown]

Where could I check the region?

[still heron]

@civic sage do ur job

[frozen crest]

go to LCT

find your server whale, check his title

RXX top XX

[frozen crest]

r32

hmm

[still heron]

Thats my Region

[craggy crown]

Rank 4's showing as R26, not sure how big of a difference that is

[frozen crest]

kadezh show him your teams

[craggy crown]

Considering Kadezh's at Ch44, I'm fairly certain they've got access to way more/better stuff than I do

[still heron]

I doubt he can copy them

[craggy crown]

My box is above, if you'd want to take a look (In an AFKalc link)

Otherwise I can grab screenshots of it instead

Whichever you'd prefer

[still heron]

Whats ur rank ?

[craggy crown]

In TS? Highest I've hit is top 20%

[still heron]

Post ur teams

[craggy crown]

Don't think I can get a hold of them right now since it's pre-season

[frozen crest]

your box looks simialr to classy's i think

[polar dune]

Indeed

[craggy crown]

No clue whether or not that's a good thing x)

[solemn sage]

I have no idea what the new account meta is for ice debuff

teams in ice are pretty different

[still heron]

Then post ur box

[sacred notch]

https://tenor.com/view/obiwan-kenobi-disturbance-in-the-force-star-wars-jedi-gif-10444289

[frozen crest]

in newer regions

[craggy crown]

I posted an afkalc link above

[frozen crest]

after like 4 teams they toss bullshit

[craggy crown]

But if you want me to grab screenshots I can

[frozen crest]

so i dont think its applicable to ancient servers

[solemn sage]

Honestly though, ice debuff is mostly a stat check

[frozen crest]

but this is a very descriptive note i took

[solemn sage]

bigger tree/engravings wins

[solemn sage]

And just in general there's less RNG

in other rounds, bad teams can still beat good teams sometimes with luck

[hasty scaffold]

I remember Geralt and Yen team kicking my arse in the ice debuff

[solemn sage]

in ice round, better team always wins

[still heron]

Do u think maybe 5% or better is possible with this box (same region as us) @proven hearth

[frozen crest]

on a side note, how are you chap 39 with that box

[craggy crown]

Again, is that a bad or a good thing lol

[still heron]

I think 4-5% is doable

[frozen crest]

think it's possible to reach 41

[craggy crown]

I just leave Campaign where it is, then come back and clear a chapter at some point

[still heron]

U could be ch. 42

[craggy crown]

I don't think I'd be able to get to 42, since I find myself struggling a little bit on boss stages on 39-8

[frozen crest]

try pushing til ch40 in the mean time at least, for the 10 free gazers in MV

[gusty valley]

My recollection of Ice Debuff is that all teams are pretty bad. 😁

[frozen crest]

fr

its the matter of whose teams are worse

[hasty scaffold]

I’m 414 almost chapter 42. So you can certainly push and you have good heroes

[still heron]

Thoran cheese?

[craggy crown]

Haven't managed to make it work -yet-, I'm at a 130 orso deficit

[still heron]

Thats ur problem

Time for random bs go

[solemn sage]

Yeah thoran cheese is the opposite of most teams

gets worse the lower your deficit is

[craggy crown]

These being my kinda scuffy teams

[still heron]

Use afk.helper and look for non Thoran cheese clears

[proven hearth]

Yeah, I think so. I remember ice being terrible though

[polar dune]

those team don't look very up to date

[frozen crest]

copy clears replace thoran cheese with brute force bs

you should have most or all the heroes most of the players use

[opal bone]

@frozen crest

[frozen crest]

[proven hearth]

pets and awakened are huge for ts, getting that athane boosted will probably make a huge difference. Ice debuff is terrible, I think our region is still trying to figure it out

[craggy crown]

Yee I'm throwing all my time cards at aThane right now

My primary focus is usually CR, but I wanted to check if it was possible with what I had, to perform better in TS as well

I have grabbed an aTalene and an aBrutus for the Leg copies though

[craggy crown]

As for Pets, I've got the blue ones at Lv. 18, Fire breahter at 6, Polar Beast at 5, Blade Ridge at 4, and Winged Lion at 3.

I do however have 4 spices, and I've been told that getting Winged Lion to 6 is probably the best choice, and then maybe Blade Ridge before Polar Beast?

[proven hearth]

Yes, winged lion is great. Not too sure about polar bear, maybe see if you get the last copies naturally for level 6

[craggy crown]

I'll get Winged to 6 in that case, and just hold on to my last spice

Well what a coincidence, one spice saved lol

@proven hearth If/When you'd have the time, I'd very much appreciate if you could perhaps let me know what teams would increase my chances at getting closer to that 5% that Kadezh mentioned!

Absolutely no hurry, though

[still heron]

Just ping us when u call post ur teams

[craggy crown]

Roger that

[sacred notch]

I expect you to do well because apparently your box is like mine

[proven hearth]

Might be a few days in? But my comps pretty whaley. Classy might be a better helper?

[craggy crown]

But as your name says, you're just better

[sacred notch]

Finally, someone who acknowledges my talent

[still heron]

Btw thats classy

[sacred notch]

https://tenor.com/view/patrickstar-spongebob-funnygifs-this-is-patrick-mad-gif-11913694

This my box btw, I haven't seen this dudes box

[still heron]

@sacred notch

[craggy crown]

How'd you get that thing again? I forgot the website for it, only used afkalc and regular screenshots for a while

[opal bone]

That box should get 1%

[sacred notch]

Afkit

I'm top50/100

[opal bone]

What region are you again?

[sacred notch]

Me or the other guy

[opal bone]

Other person.

[still heron]

32

[opal bone]

32 doesn't feel that whaley or old.

[proven hearth]

Agreed

[opal bone]

But it's likely old enough that everyone has 2+Aw or close.

So not having them to match means you're likely capped at 2%, maybe 1%.

[still heron]

Tell that ghibly

[proven hearth]

Ghibly teams don’t have much synergy though

Imo

[still heron]

He doesnt need synergy

[proven hearth]

They have white stars. That’s about it

[opal bone]

White supremacy

[hasty scaffold]

Then he’s just using the wallet comp

[storm moth]

i was 1.6% lmao

[craggy crown]

Neat, updated my stuff there now as well, though there seems to be some bug x) Can't put Izold as the fuse target for my LDV

[sacred notch]

Try refreshing. I remember having that problem

Forgot how I solved it tho

[craggy crown]

Ahh, refreshing did work (after 2 tries). I think it's because when I last used that, Izold was bound to PoP, so refreshing made him re-appear in the list

Now everything's in order

[restive goblet]

have you guys noticed any pet skills that are good in TS?

or are none of the lvl 6 elite ones noticeable

[toxic prawn]

Any formation advice? Maybe better use for twins? My last teams are so weak

[civic sage]

Formation 3: JoA Albedo Ainz Yen Merlin
Formation 4: Lucretia Twins Desira Rowan Ezizh

Then Formation 5 run same back 3 + 2 flex units

[twilit gulch]

[sacred notch]

Common whale L

[spark prism]

Most don’t beat rare pets until lvl 8-9

Winged lion is great obviously

[lapis moth]

is poverty merlin any good

[sacred notch]

Without 9f not gonna be as much sustain I think

[toxic prawn]

No poverty joan way better

[sacred notch]

Tbh I haven't read his skills

[lapis moth]

also cycle sucks without ezizh, rather ezizh is core so you can't really call it cycle

[sacred notch]

Get LDV in there somewhere

[toxic prawn]

Don’t have

[lapis moth]

I'd even gaze one

[toxic prawn]

I have a L+ mortas that’s about it

[lapis moth]

[toxic prawn]

I know I’m a scrub. My account’s pretty new though

[lapis moth]

yeah you should follow some guides from the #classic-questions pins seems you have made some non optimal choices

do you have a decent rosa maybe

[toxic prawn]

Yes

[lapis moth]

I'd use her in the scarlet team instead of brutus

[toxic prawn]

Rosa or lyca front?

[lapis moth]

lyca better I think

and for team 4 go for luc 5p

teams 5-7 probably need to do random bs but at least you'll have a decent start

you can add daimon with the luc 5p because he is pretty invested and put him in his own team later, maybe with some tanks in front like brutus and thoran

[toxic prawn]

This is what I had😂

[lapis moth]

Ah yeah I remember that 90% daimon tasi team lol

[toxic prawn]

Don’t underestimate them

[restive goblet]

that was a really good pushing comp back in the day, with lyca instead of alna

[restive goblet]

Oh yeah I didn’t see the 100 energy it gives everyone with the lvl 6 skill. Does a low lvl rock lizard shield actually do anything or does it just break immediately? The lvl 9 skill looks good at least

[proven hearth]

Ooo, new role!

[sacred notch]

https://tenor.com/view/imback-back-gif-21929745

[carmine shale]

Isn't ainz actually good this debuff?

[lusty zinc]

yep

[steady hill]

yes

and alna grez too

[twilit gulch]

AThane too

[restive goblet]

Finally Athane gets a chance to shine

[twilit gulch]

Ikr

[toxic prawn]

Next investments?

[twilit gulch]

raku +30

[steady hill]

raku 30

[misty epoch]

He's good all rotations afaik

[gusty valley]

There MIGHT have been a bit of irony in the original statement. 😎

[frozen crest]

still tryna figure out what irony is

[misty epoch]

Fair, I just woke up 😂

[opal bone]

Adjective, similar to or suggestive of iron.

[frozen crest]

[wide wasp]

what teams gonna work w this debuff?

[gusty valley]

pre-coffee-stupidity. A condition I know faaaar to well. 😄

[steady hill]

2 fodders

[low iron]

Last time, it was avoid using Scarlet and Lucretia, but Grez was okay because his minions still got shields and C&R, Tarnos and Geralt benefited from it immensely. Ainz also saw high win rates last time if I remember right.
aThane still worked, aBrutus suffered, and aSolise/aTalene had a rougher time with the energy regen cut. Regular Talene would suicide with her ult due to no shield but still healed a lot so people were using her. You'll probably see aBaden work very well with the double energy drain but people would need to actually use him.

The Energy Drain Vespera-Pet also saw a big boost from people who were using her.

[gusty valley]

I've given up on purples. Once you get to critical mass of heroes, they are just pure fodder.

Same with faction cards...

[steady hill]

true

[gusty valley]

FactionCards - Sums it up...

(And, yeah, that's not a photoshop...)

[steady hill]

all fodder

[gusty valley]

The luxury purples are equally bad, except after pulling about a thousand of them, you'll get your second copy of WakeEzizh. 😒

[wide wasp]

walker🥵

[lapis moth]

walker op 1 shots you in rift

[lapis moth]

can zol 003 be useful here

[icy spruce]

So e41 grez or e60 Lucretia in Alna gb?

[opal bone]

This buff not great for Lucy, but Grez shield still works.

If I remember right.

[storm moth]

bro wtf

why they making my lucy cycle ass

when i just finished my twins

[opal bone]

[icy spruce]

Yen SI30 priority or just leave 20?

[opal bone]

She wants SI30, but idk what your overall SI30 situation is.

Her SI30 is a big boost for PvP.

[round surge]

Who would be the best to gaze after Healus 1* for TS?

[twilit gulch]

prob zaphrael

[carmine shale]

How's this?

Or would ldv be better than merlin? Or maybe a raku comp?

[golden musk]

Can someone post good F2P comps for TS? Thanks

[gloomy lichen]

Alna gb with oden or athalia this debuff?

[frozen crest]

think athalia since her bleed damage wont be reduced

[lapis moth]

poverty yen or ldv as sub for merlin?

[restive goblet]

For early rounds is it better to run Athane with burst comp or with haelus/LB?

[sacred notch]

They don't sub merlin

If u don't have merlin, probably better off using Arthur to help with some sort of tankiness or sustain

[lapis moth]

no arthur yet so maybe I'll try mishka for the first rounds

[restive goblet]

What about Mortas?

[void bramble]

what's your mishka investment?

[lapis moth]

Mishka 30960, also got 109 athane I think of trying there or maybe take alna from the GB team since that robo guide says it can work without her

[void bramble]

mishka would work well at that investment because she provides sustain and cc. I'd keep alna in gbs just to not spread your strong units too thin

[lapis moth]

Sounds good, thanks I'll start with mishka than

[void bramble]

AThane without engraving might be risky for the first round, but would probably do fine for a third/fourth team.

[lapis moth]

Yeah I think I'll go with thane as a 3rd now that I have a working zol

so luc / scarlet / kren teams are practically no good here?

[void bramble]

unfortunately not. If you run out of choices though, they'll have to do. This is probably the hardest debuff so far since it limits teams so much.

[lapis moth]

I see

[mortal sentinel]

Whats the most optimal start to this TS?

[void bramble]

alna grez was the best iirc from last time. Athane lbs and ainz/yenn dims also performed well. The meta has shifted since the last time this debuff came up so it will evolve as this round plays out. I expect ABaden to thrive with this debuff so watch out if you dont have him

[mortal sentinel]

Hmm I wonder if alna grez with kalene, fane and silas would be better than the athalia variant

[void bramble]

Sounds very possible

[compact marlin]

can someone help me

i struggle with this mod

and i think i missed up a lot of my team comb

is Abaden good ?

[lapis moth]

read a couple of posts above yours

[compact marlin]

ok

[void bramble]

Try Alna ABaden Nevanthi, ASolise, Silas

[compact marlin]

i will thanks !

abt pet is good for this combo ?

any*

done

[void bramble]

I'm not really a pet expert, but I think winged lion is best for most teams

[compact marlin]

yah i put that on athane team

[void bramble]

Do you have Hendrik with any furniture?

[lapis moth]

do you think a level 6 is better than blue pets?

[compact marlin]

no

[compact marlin]

my hendrik is suck

4 star 10 sig

.

[void bramble]

okay that's fine. Haelus will do better than estrilda there

[compact marlin]

even tho the shield is bad in this mod

is it ok to put it ?

[mortal sentinel]

He still gives the energy

[compact marlin]

i see

should i swap it with who ?

[void bramble]

Yeah its more for cube buff on AThane too

swap with estrilda

[compact marlin]

ok

like this ?

[void bramble]

looks good

[compact marlin]

thanks guys

[void bramble]

no problem

[compact marlin]

oh btw which better

athane or atalen ?

skill

[void bramble]

thane

[compact marlin]

and abaden or asolise XD

sorry for asking a lot

?

[void bramble]

ASolise iirc

and no worries that's what the channel is for haha

[compact marlin]

thanks a lot

[lapis moth]

Will this work for athane team?

[restive goblet]

Is Ainz better than Brutus in this buff?

[void bramble]

Without furniture, I would drop hendrik for someone like haelus, sonja, or raine to buff athane more

[void bramble]

I just got ABrutus this week so I actually have no idea. I know ABrutus is not as good as usual in this buff while Ainz is better than usual, but I'm not sure if Ainz dethrones ABrutus completely. I do know that Ainz and Yennifer work well together so you can try that and see what the whales do in the first round to see if ABrutus is working or not

[gusty valley]

If it's like the last run, probably.

[lapis moth]

got 203 raine and 300 astar which do you think I should try? also will zol's 3f be useful in this debuff because of the damage reduction at the start?

[restive goblet]

It seems like zol should still be good because it gives your team initiative basically

[void bramble]

try raine. zol 3f won't really be useful since there's almost no damage potential at the start, but zol can ramp up in damage well as the fight goes on so he's still decent. If you have another solid support or tank for that round it might be worth considering

[lapis moth]

The only other options that might work are hodge, rosa, astar, or E brutus

[void bramble]

Since athane is your main carry, I would try to back him with lb/cele support for the faction bonus so rosa would do best. If zolrath was built more, he could function as a second dps, but I wouldn't lean on him without the investment. Also if you have engraving resources, it would be well worth it to put them into your AThane so he can carry even harder.

[lapis moth]

yup putting everything into him now, thanks I'll go with rosa

[low iron]

As Rydan said, last blizzard, a lot of people were running Brutus in his own team and had Ainz in the Dims team because Ainz had a better win-rate than Brutus for them. Or were running them both together. So yeah, probably.

Or it might have been a better overall winrate to separate them because the difference wasn't big enough.

[round bison]

Is there guide for great teams in Scramble for each type of round?

[gloomy lichen]

Nope. follow normal pvp guide

[void bramble]

Not yet, but Volkin Games on YouTube posted a video yesterday discussing both meta and f2p/budget teams for the "burst" buff round and intends to make more in the future for the other buffs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4fhgn_r9H0

[wide wasp]

Is the guide any good?

[misty epoch]

It's for krakens basically

[wide wasp]

But at the end its f2p

[misty epoch]

He shows only a few comps, not all 7

[void bramble]

It gives insight into the top teams and how they work and also provides some budget options and explains what the goals of each team are.

[misty epoch]

But I didn't watch too closely, was fast forwarding all the time

[wide wasp]

What 2 teams must i run?

And 3 teams?

[misty epoch]

2 teams Ainz and GB imo

[wide wasp]

Isn ainz bad here?

[void bramble]

Definitely an Ainz/Dims team and a Grez/gbs team. AThane could work as a third team even at that investment paired with your best supports and tanks that are left over

[void bramble]

no Ainz is top tier this round

[wide wasp]

This good?

[misty epoch]

Mishka kinda trash this round, put in Daimon instead

Also why not put Yenn in mid backline?

Afaik that's the optimal placement for her

[wide wasp]

Idk

[void bramble]

swap lucy with ferael. Lucy doesn't do well here unfortunately so let grez and oden be the damage dealers. Also AThane is nice, but it might be better to give ainz and yenn some support like rowan or merlin

[wide wasp]

Damn i realy wanna use athane

[void bramble]

actually athane could work in the gbs team possibly if you want to try that. Dims team just really needs more sustainability

[wide wasp]

Ill put in athane for daimom

This ok?

[void bramble]

swap ainz and yenn position and It looks solid

good luck! 🙂

[wide wasp]

Then rowan cant reach ainz?

[void bramble]

hmm true. Rowan energy is also halved this debuff so merlin might be better just to have more healing

[wide wasp]

Ok merlin backline for bedo or not?

[void bramble]

try Arthur Albedo front; Ainz Yenn Merlin back

low merlin investment might hurt but I think it's still the best choice for this debuff

[wide wasp]

Ok thnx

[void bramble]

youre welcome and good luck

[mortal sentinel]

How's this for 3 teams?

[void bramble]

Looks great! I'm interested in seeing how kalene performs

[gusty valley]

Worth noting that Haelus isn't great in this debuff. (Not horrible, but not as great as usual...)

[misty epoch]

He's still decent for the cube and energe regen

Just funnel as much energy as possible on Athane

[mortal sentinel]

Same here with the damage reduction buff it should give her time to ramp up

[mortal sentinel]

Still gets the 15cda and 15% extra dmg, just no shield

[low iron]

Last I checked, Haelus's energy regen is dependant on shields, if an ally doesn't have a shield, he doesn't give them the Energy per second - so it's mostly just the cube he brings. Which, is still good for things like aThane with the CDA/Acc/DMG%, but outside of that, he just has an AoE damage attack and the ability to summon an obelisk with his ult should he even get the energy to use it this TS.

[misty epoch]

I didn't know only allies with shield get energy bonus, good to know

[wide wasp]

Team 3 is awathane and team 4? Im going away this weekend, there is no service so i need 4 teams

This is what i have so far

[misty epoch]

Some kind of Lucy team imo

Actually nah, Scarlet would probably be better

Swap Scarlet with Athane, and put Athane in his own team

[frozen crest]

@wide wasp this was my wr last cycle

[wide wasp]

Why did u leave server?

[wide wasp]

Athane with lucy.. Why not

Must i put lyca in for nivea in scarlet?

[misty epoch]

Yea, that would be better I think

[wide wasp]

What must i put in here? Rowan and tgen run normal burst scarlet?

This fine?
@misty epoch or is kren better for raku?

[lapis moth]

when did you start using the scarlet team? looks like it did pretty well at 7 teams at least

[frozen crest]

i used scarlet at 4 teams, then switched to luc cycle to test both

ended up doing her in 5 teams

[wide wasp]

My scarlet OP for my server... Mine got 92% wr at 2 teams

[frozen crest]

im still gonna test around this round though

[lapis moth]

so luc cycle performed better?

[frozen crest]

but feels like luc cycle's gonna do better esp with alna

[lapis moth]

are you talking about this debuff?

[wide wasp]

No

[frozen crest]

both of them sort of performed the same

or at least, based on the wr

[lapis moth]

hmm I see

did you try swapping alna from the gb team?

[wide wasp]

With this debuff last time i fell from 4% to 12%

[frozen crest]

not yet

that's what im gonna do now

eorin grez on gb

or some support backliner with ferael/oden front

[wide wasp]

Eorin needs alot of support tho

[lapis moth]

oden front might be a bad idea without alna

[misty epoch]

Kren mauler team might be actually decent this round since he will get time to ult

[lapis moth]

was thinking daimon or hodge but idk

[frozen crest]

still coping on no 9f skreg after 3 months wl kekw

[misty epoch]

Same, I got only 5 or 6

But Anasta Wutus could compensate for that

[frozen crest]

still coping on no 9f anastag after 3 months wl kekw

[wide wasp]

?

[frozen crest]

daimon could be bad with no shield

[misty epoch]

Can't relate

[frozen crest]

let me check

[lapis moth]

ah right

[frozen crest]

yeah hodg might be nice

lemme try him if eorin does shittily

[lapis moth]

really want to get him engraved already it would probably really improve him in pvp but there are always higher prios

[misty epoch]

Maybe Astar instead of Raku, feels like you got enough dmg in that team already

[wide wasp]

My astar is 200

That ok?

[misty epoch]

I have no idea tbh

[lapis moth]

make astar si30

[wide wasp]

No

[misty epoch]

My knowledge about this debuff is limited, I just copy others

Weren't people running Alna chicken this debuff? Heard it's surprisingly good

[wide wasp]

Ill do it when 20930

[proven vault]

Can anyone help me for the first 2/3 teams of round of treasure scramble ? (My wutus should be ready soon, only missing one copy and I’m close to pity)

[lapis moth]

astar is not alna, you don't need full investment for him to work

[wide wasp]

Ill do si30 after nivea

And e30 after athane and Lucy

[torpid anchor]

Any idea what Teams i could build?

[frozen crest]

nice box

[misty epoch]

Shemira

[craggy crown]

@still heron @sacred notch

Since it's now actually live and I can grab my teams, these are teams I've been suggested to use thus far, and with those I've normally had a like top 40-50% rank

can't check further as of right now

[frozen crest]

people suggested luc 5p?

[craggy crown]

Correct

[frozen crest]

i see

[twilit gulch]

Pretty sure 5 pull sucks this debuff

[lapis moth]

do you have a decent joan and mortas/yen? should work better than arthur and LDV in the dim team

[craggy crown]

These would be the teams I've used consistently ever since I was given the teams, regardless of debuff.

@lapis moth Joan's not really invested (yet), Yen is at 5 or 6 Furn at SI20 for now. Mortas is M20

[obtuse mauve]

Joan's protection of fate is not considered a shield?

[lapis moth]

I'd start with yen in that team (position 4) and joan if you can get her SI20 (otherwise mortas), merlin and albedo front. That and your GB team for 2 teams (maybe oden might be better if it is e60 than a non engraved athalia).

[lapis moth]

she was one of the top win rate heroes last time so even if it does her other skills make up for it

[twilit gulch]

I think it is but she's still good for the healing and cc

[frozen crest]

joa has shield?

[twilit gulch]

Free ult can't be underestimated

[twilit gulch]

[obtuse mauve]

I mixed the names, the skill is actually standard shield. Protections looks more like a normal buff

[proven vault]

Any tips on how I could improve my first 4 teams for this round ? From what I read above is change Arthur for Joan ?

[still heron]

Can u post ur box

[lapis moth]

mb, it's just a skill that shields

[craggy crown]

Lemme grab it again

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/974081672972763186/1044243170629779456/image.png https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/974081672972763186/1044243171015659571/image.png https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/974081672972763186/1044243171439280239/image.png

As for materials, I have enough to SI30/F9 a character, and I have enough engraving stuff to get 3 or 4 to e30, and 2 to e60

Though I generally try to get to Benchmarks first and foremost

[still heron]

Alna, Lucretia, Ferael, Athalia, Silas
Arthur, Albedo, Merlin, Mortas, Ainz
Mishka, Estrilda, Lyca, Scarlet, Raine

Start with that

1* E60 Athalia

+30 Zolrath

[dawn tinsel]

Poverty Yen (000, can 100 or 200 if big difference) or Mortas in Ainz comp?

[misty epoch]

Mortas, he's used in more places

[dawn tinsel]

What do you mean by used in more places? (I’m wondering specifically for this TS debuff, which Ainz comp works better.)

[misty epoch]

I mean he's used in other modes as well, but speaking strictly of TS, I would still go with Mortas as +20 is really all he needs, Yenn probably needs more investment to work optimally

[oblique kestrel]

Thoughts on my 2 teams and 3 teams on this freezing de buff round? :D?

Any adjustments or recommendations are greatly appreciated ☺️

[dawn tinsel]

Sounds good, thanks.

[dawn tinsel]

Any suggestions/changes/recommendations for my 2, 3 team setup?

[crystal cloud]

Any recommendations for pvp and ts setups? This is my box and current TS 4 team

[hard knot]

Could anyone help me come up with 2-3 teams for TS? Dont have many A to choose from. I can show rest of E+/E heroes if needed.
Ainz is linked to Gwyn, Albedo to Ferael, Joan to Thoran, Yen to Rosa
Thanks!

[buoyant cradle]

1 dimentional 1 grave born and the last with raku mishka rowan A thane and rosaline

Dimentional albedo Joan ainz yennefer and lyca - gb daimon grez fereal silas oden

[torpid anchor]

Can you guys help me get formations for TS too?

daimon and ainz are binned but they have dimensional key
Joan+Eironn Leonardo+rosaline yennefer+thesku arthur+sonja geralt+raine

[buoyant cradle]

Ainz Joan geralt desira yennefer - grez daimon silas oden fereal - rowan rosaline scarlet raine Sonja

[hard knot]

thanks, any replacement for yen / rosa? they are linked, cannot use both. Have same issue with Feral / Albedo

[restive goblet]

I’d recommend unlinking ferael and Albedo and linking Albedo to Gwynn instead. You’ll probably be using both ferael and Albedo in multi stages together in campaign and also in pvp for a long while

[hard knot]

I have Ainz linked to Gwyn, who do you recommend linking ainz to then?

[buoyant cradle]

Tesku maybee

[torpid anchor]

thanks i will use it

[restive goblet]

Hmm you don’t have a lot of options. You definitely want Ainz and Albedo ascended, so for now, leave Ainz linked with Gwyn and then link Albedo with Rosa or Thoran. Link Yen with either thoran/Rosa or with Granit. When you ascend a few more heroes, you’ll have more options and this won’t be much of a problem anymore

Oh Joan is linked to Thoran isn’t she

then yeah probably move Yen to Mythic and link Albedo with Rosa

[hard knot]

Hi, thanks for the reply! yes Joan is linked to Thoran. Ok, I will link albedo to Rosa and Yen to Granit, thanks again!

[wide wasp]

How big of a diff does e0 - e60 for athane make in %+-

?

[misty epoch]

How would anyone know that? This depends on region, team comp, investment, tree level, etc.

And obviously rng in TS as well

[wide wasp]

Does it make a big diff? Like from 309 to 309e60?