#treasure-scramble

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sacred notch
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What the fuck

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What region are you

toxic prawn
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Adept I think?

sacred notch
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No like

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The number region

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Like

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Im region 35

toxic prawn
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Where’s it say

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39

sacred notch
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Wtf

lapis moth
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dat alna daimon tasi snarlaugh

hasty scaffold
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What's your rank?

sacred notch
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I don't think I've ever even seen a team with that high wr at 4 teams 50 battles

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Unless ur like low placement and going against scrubs

toxic prawn
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26%

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I’m on server 970

sacred notch
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can someone help him. Im too angry at TS to help right now

earnest phoenix
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I was 1% with three fights left and dropped to 2% >.>

obtuse mauve
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Some ideas: Replace that 22% team with ainz + dims, move Lyca to scarlet and drop kren, put Lucretia somewhere, maybe with alna

lapis moth
sacred notch
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U should also follow me, but I'm not in ur region

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But still follow

hasty scaffold
hasty scaffold
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I don’t even need to advertise 👀

sacred notch
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I want more followers than asta

obtuse mauve
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Some specific mode? Or campaign?

hasty scaffold
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I don’t know some say it’s from CR

obtuse mauve
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Hm... That's weird, i do very badly in Cr, shouldn't it even be visible. Must be somewhere else

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Ts requires following, so it's not there either. maybe it's tr. I do reasonably well in some rounds

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Or maybe it's a combination of several sources...

twilit gulch
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I'm half as popular khasosrun

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It's prob all the modes combined

lapis moth
obtuse mauve
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Yeah, maybe clicks in the profile pic or something

sacred notch
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Why does nobody want to view my shit sadira

twilit gulch
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Cuz it's shit

sacred notch
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Not gonna brb, logging for for eternity

toxic prawn
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So this is what I ended with

obtuse mauve
toxic prawn
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Yeah you definitely get some unique formations at my stage in the game. I think this is good for what I have

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I need to get albedo soon. Witcher and Joan putting me behind

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I could put a five pull with Lucretia safiya and atalene. I don’t know if it would work at my investments

frozen crest
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pretty good, t36

twilit gulch
frozen crest
twilit gulch
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Freegion

frozen crest
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no idea how cycle did well

frozen crest
twilit gulch
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I'm salty too

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Lol

frozen crest
twilit gulch
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Maybe I can stay t100 for r2 as well

sacred notch
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At this rate, raku gonna have a 2nd awakened before e

twilit gulch
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Classy u don't have awakened?

sacred notch
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No I do

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Brut

twilit gulch
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Raku isn't even finished with brutLOLfric

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Actually

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I should go push towers

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For tot

sacred notch
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I hit multi on gb and gave up

twilit gulch
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I hate maulers

sacred notch
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Why wouldn't they do it like campaign where every 5 floors is a multi

twilit gulch
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It would be too easy

obtuse mauve
twilit gulch
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Is kren supposed to be the carry

sacred notch
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Yes

twilit gulch
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What I got rn

sacred notch
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Why's ur kren so weak

twilit gulch
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I'm poor

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I'll get his si30 next zaphtears

obtuse mauve
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Tidus, skreg, Skriath and Kren make a nice combo of early cc that may clutch some levels. Your Kren may actually work if you put decent gear in him.

lapis moth
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L abrutus works very good with kren if you are not powercapped

twilit gulch
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Don't have zaphtears

gloomy lichen
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from t100 before merge to 3%. sad

granite mason
solemn sage
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JD got 0.02%, so either regions are very big (top 1% is >3300 people), or the percentiles are calculated without top 100

gloomy lichen
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game is hard

solemn sage
sacred notch
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Upvote that plz

gloomy lichen
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or mayb change to top 1000 lol

restive goblet
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Where is it best to use Nevanthi in TS? Alna/Gb or cycle? Some new team?

solemn sage
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Best is kraken team with tarnos

carmine shale
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Kraken team with tarnos ruke and Asolice

carmine shale
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Random bs go

restive goblet
dusk tundra
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What’s kraken team

restive goblet
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Tarnos Solise Nevanthi with a tanky front

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Talene chimera orthros ABaden etc

dusk tundra
solemn sage
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Nev summoner buff works on tarnos because of his pillars

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that's why the team is good

dusk tundra
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Idk what’s meta

carmine shale
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🐳

restive goblet
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lol I climbed back into the top 100 after 20 fights but I missed the rewards tidussnout

opal bone
# frozen crest

All of your teams did better with lower investment at higher TS rank. belovedzikis
Except Dims of course, Yen supremacy.

frozen crest
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chose the right path ig BRUHtus

opal bone
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It's one region lower but still WAAAHsos

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Difference feels so big.

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I'm going to try blue path next time either way.

fresh yarrow
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Anything I could fix on the last 2?

frozen crest
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why is estrilda there

mortal sentinel
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This team did better than I thought it would

dusk tundra
mortal sentinel
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I am

dusk tundra
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What a coincidence that I just looked and you posted this at the same time

mortal sentinel
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Yeah, Alna ABaden does better than that team, I was just testing things

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Apparently if you have Tarnos with that comp it's giga chad op

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Instead of Fane

nocturne token
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is E tarnos enough?

mortal sentinel
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Probably not

nocturne token
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is E+ tarnos enough?

mortal sentinel
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You'd probably want Ascended at the minimum

icy spruce
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People on my TS ladder not using her yet, at least the people I checked. Can’t yoink from them

opal bone
carmine shale
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I still gotta e60 scarlet, grezhul, haelus and eventually abrutus so I don't see how I'm e60ing Yen anytime soon

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Although I really wish I could

opal bone
carmine shale
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They are only both mythic atm lmao

icy spruce
opal bone
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Also I wouldn't e60 Grez

carmine shale
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Fair

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He seems fine at e34

opal bone
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I'm using her instead of LDV there.

icy spruce
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Sounds good, thanks for the help!

gusty valley
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Also, in case you missed it, there's a "Recommended Formations" now for TreasureScramble as well.

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It's really useful!

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🤪 🤪 🤪 🤪 🤪

misty epoch
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Thata's pretty neat

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Time to run Walker comp to fk with the algorithm

gusty valley
solemn sage
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Ainz in dims slightly better than asolise

lime zinc
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Damn, Ainz doin better than AwThane

frozen crest
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57% wr in 50 battles kazThonk

solemn sage
solemn sage
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should be 56 or 58

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Lilith_Round()

gusty valley
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One draw. 😁

frozen crest
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happened only so many times

frozen crest
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kekw

opal bone
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Doing surprisingly well early t5 with q5p Lucy as my 5th.

misty epoch
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Climbed back to t64 after dropping to t98 yersterday lmao

wintry fulcrum
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Back to the drawing board for a better 5th comp lol

opal bone
polar dune
frozen crest
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kept forgetting that scarlet's relic shouldnt be tampered else her power drops below mishka's lycapalm

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whcih explains my low wr

opal bone
quasi light
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Any help for team 4 and 5 WAAAHsos

misty epoch
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Just copy what others are using, it's really not that hard

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Especially with 3 awk

sacred notch
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Take ur money and invest in some more education tidussnout

quasi light
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I already graduated uni, I don't wanna go back to studying

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I've tried copying what others are using, it resulted in a 0% win rate instead of 4% smug_dolly

sacred notch
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Nobody in their right mind is using those 4 and 5 formations

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I assure you

quasi light
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Comp 4 is literally what I was told to use when I last asked here angryalbedo

hasty scaffold
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Why are you not using Albedo? Running standard dim comp should be easy

sacred notch
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Take brut out of dims

quasi light
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I am, in my brutus comp

hasty scaffold
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Lol I didn’t see

sacred notch
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Throw him into a wilder shenanigans

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Mauler*

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My teams

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64th r65

hasty scaffold
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Anyway Ainz there without Albedo is a sitting duck in pvp

sacred notch
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35*

still heron
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Whats ur AwSolise Team? @hasty scaffold

hasty scaffold
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In my burst team

still heron
hasty scaffold
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Kraken punching bag 🙄 fml

misty epoch
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That's depressing jfc

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Literally all white stars

wide wasp
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000yenn

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Vs 30960 5star lucy

tall osprey
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Can I get some tips for teams?

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@wide wasp

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@clever creek

wide wasp
wide wasp
wide wasp
wide wasp
tall osprey
wide wasp
tall osprey
# wide wasp ye

Alright. Will try them. Thank you very much

I am a bit confused, that I should use a aw hero ...

restive goblet
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85th peggysip

spark prism
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No woke thane, and cycle was pretty bad. Anything I should move around?

low iron
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Well, I also managed to crawl back up to t100 while doing some weird team experiments - but probably going to drop again as I continue to do adjustments and play around. Like, switching Lucretia back into the AlnaGB as she's doing 0 damage in most 5p battles and see what might fit better there. elethathink

vale imp
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Actually just checked, region 40 is worse lol

hasty scaffold
opal bone
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Is Jane a Leviathan? rakuhmm

hasty scaffold
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Super leviathan kraken chad

vale imp
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We all rotate having f'd up trees rn

hasty scaffold
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I spend diamonds for my tree every time for TS lorsob

vale imp
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um pass

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don't ask how many diamonds ae is costing me lol

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Reset every branch 1-2x daily

hasty scaffold
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Yeah I know a couple in the top 10 who have 0 mage branch homegalul

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@vale imp did you know if orinax quit? Or just busy with AE

vale imp
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Good question

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Top ae guilds are finished/finishing rn and that's a big push

vale imp
sacred notch
hasty scaffold
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Oh wow. Maybe me next heh

vale imp
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Aww don't quit, worst case take what is irritating and stop doing it for a bit

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I did dailies only for a couple weeks

sacred notch
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If u quit, give ur account to me eironnlove

hasty scaffold
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Raku also wants it haha

sacred notch
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Raku is a whale, give it to me tidussnout

polar dune
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lost his flame

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quit since AE +1 day

hasty scaffold
polar dune
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wait till you see the same screen every day for a month

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you still have content you can clear

worldly wedge
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Flaw you can clear stuff.... once every two weeks

polar dune
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thats cus I actively try

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with poverty pet

polar dune
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probably time to funnel your interest into less damaging pathway

sacred notch
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@fresh yarrow post ur teams here and roster. I'll help in a bit

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Shouldn't take too long

steady hill
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okay so how tf my ainz is the highest wr

sacred notch
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Aight I'll help in just a bit unless anyone else wants to chime in

fresh yarrow
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@steady hill this is getting me top 1% rn

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I changed the last team

steady hill
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we almost have the same comp

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except team 5

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and some ubs

lilac bobcat
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Your top team might be my lowest

misty epoch
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I gotta try Anasta in that Zol comp

solemn sage
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Rank 42

brave anchor
solemn sage
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I'm very old, him and my 5* athalia are all from store/purple stones

brave anchor
fading osprey
solemn sage
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At high ranks zaph is important

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lower ranks people do alright with scarlet or raku I think

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or LDV

fading osprey
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I'll try ldv thx

silent ether
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1st comp WR is 2% LMAOO

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Top 90 or something

frozen crest
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damn

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r39 do be chillin

wide wasp
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How is my 300 athane team so good?

frozen crest
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because.. there's raku

misty epoch
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40% is good?

wide wasp
wide wasp
crystal isle
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almost anything can win against 5-pull in pvp

lapis moth
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joan e30 jump 20 ranks up belovedzikis

opal bone
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It's just the TS tide.

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People still seem completely unaware of its existence.

granite mason
shell jungle
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only 13 fights but i’ll take it

sacred notch
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Don't u have an Awk hero?

still heron
lapis moth
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209e0 anasta good rakuhmm

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next hero I plan to build so good to know

still heron
lapis moth
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982

still heron
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Good

shell jungle
shell jungle
still heron
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Its confirmed.....he stinks khasosrun

lapis moth
still heron
lapis moth
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what's the minimum needed for zol pvp

wide wasp
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Last reset my lucy5p was at 39%..now its 6%

wide wasp
wide wasp
shell jungle
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gets beaten by virtually anything

misty epoch
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He's got poverty box though, so probably nothing else to use

shell jungle
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fair

lapis moth
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poverty cycle doing same as poverty 5p from what I tried belovedzikis

misty epoch
quaint pollen
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How mandatory is Ezizh 9F when Frontline with Twins in Scarlet cycle?

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And does Scarlet go in 3 or 5?

wide wasp
misty epoch
restive goblet
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Everyone is still packed so close together xd

wide wasp
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im at the same rank i was before server merge....

restive goblet
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Do you guys think an M +30 Nevanthi would be good in Lucretia cycle over e+ ezizh or e+ twins?

lapis moth
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I don't think it is considered cycle without ezizh or twins

wide wasp
quartz salmon
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also, vip 12 baaaaa

lapis moth
quartz salmon
lapis moth
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3 minutes clear round np

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i used 2 cards

quartz salmon
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are you kidding me

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3 mins?

lapis moth
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3 minutes

quartz salmon
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imma use 6 cards im so done with this stage

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actually im not

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but im starting to think Hybridxy got a 1 in a billion chance of beating it with 3f

wide wasp
lapis moth
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ran it for hours 4d total

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didn't even work once

sacred notch
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Don't use 6 cards on thoran 🤡

wide wasp
quartz salmon
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im at 11 days full night run, so about 90* hours

lapis moth
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if it makes you feel better 39-32 also shit rng, but probably my gear is a lot to blame

hasty scaffold
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Wtf? I don't remember this lol

restive goblet
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Did you guys pull for 1 copy of Aezizh or are you just praying that one drops randomly like I am

wide wasp
quartz salmon
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cause t4 :/

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I havent tried it tho

restive goblet
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it sucks having to merc Aezizh and Khazard

lapis moth
wide wasp
quartz salmon
hasty scaffold
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Hmm in that case it doens't need 9F Thoran

quartz salmon
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do you think it needs the 2 extra furn for stats?

misty epoch
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Is that Flora stage?

quartz salmon
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idk what they give but I legit think its near impossible with my thoran rn

hasty scaffold
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I have 9F Thoran and I did remember removing furniture the hanging ones

misty epoch
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I don't remember

hasty scaffold
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So check which furniture you have for cdr

quartz salmon
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with 9f its high rng with eye, call help and 5f + call is best

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3f is just impossible

misty epoch
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Only big furns give CDR

quartz salmon
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ah

sacred notch
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Really wish they'd implement going back to see how we cleared stages

misty epoch
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Just checked afkhelper, I remember this stage lol

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Took me 3 days

quartz salmon
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I checked every clear sub RC 450 😭

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only hybrydxy did it without 9f

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hes a wizard frfr

sacred notch
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Are you following me?

misty epoch
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Just rng

quartz salmon
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hm no i dotn think so

sacred notch
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I def did it without 9f

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I don't remember having to merc a 9f thoran in ch39

quartz salmon
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I guess so but I already ran it for more than 80 hours this is getting very tidious

quartz salmon
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you do'nt have your clear in afkhelper right?

sacred notch
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131178380

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I don't post

quartz salmon
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I tried both

restive goblet
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Just level up a bunch and use Kren tidussnout

quartz salmon
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rn 417 welp belovedzikis

misty epoch
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Just use eye

quartz salmon
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with eye tohran ults once every 15/20 tries

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call is like 5

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but ig eye is needed for clear

wide wasp
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card thoran

misty epoch
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Nah

quartz salmon
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4f kHAHAsos

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im not using more that 1 card for this dude

wide wasp
quartz salmon
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cause rng dotdotdot

sacred notch
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Waiting for request

quartz salmon
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omg im dumb asf

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your classy

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I have you in friend list

wide wasp
quartz salmon
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...

sacred notch
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Breh

quartz salmon
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I have your Astar merc 😭

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rn

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sorryyyy

sacred notch
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Oh ur Tonboul?

quartz salmon
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yes

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bruh I cant see your clear Lilith sucks forreal

misty epoch
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It shows only 4 lowest combat rating clears I think

quartz salmon
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oh thats why

wide wasp
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that sucks

sacred notch
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Only if they just added it so u could search for a user's clear in game

misty epoch
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Probably too much data to store

sacred notch
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I should work at Lilith

wide wasp
quartz salmon
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lilith broke tho

misty epoch
quartz salmon
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nobody buying stuff baaaaa

wide wasp
misty epoch
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TS resets each rotation

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If you decide to store all the campaign clears, data would keep piling up

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And storage can get expensive I think

wide wasp
misty epoch
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I once forgot to turn off AWS database and got charged $700 lmao

quartz salmon
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I wish they just replaced random peoples clear with 650 RC with friendlist or lowest combat ratting in server

twilit gulch
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5pull not doing too shabby

misty epoch
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Whale in freegion

wide wasp
quartz salmon
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50% on scarlet burst is really low

twilit gulch
quartz salmon
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even if mishka e0 50% seems low to me

misty epoch
sacred notch
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Skeepies' dad works at Lilith, u don't know?

wide wasp
misty epoch
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Running servers cost $$$

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Especially if you have several around the world

wide wasp
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renting costs more

wide wasp
misty epoch
quartz salmon
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do I put merlin 203e0 or yen 200e0 in dim comp?

restive goblet
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My scarlet burst is at 41% this round scarletduh

twilit gulch
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So Scarlet doesn't actually benefit from lyca +20?

wide wasp
misty epoch
quartz salmon
quartz salmon
wide wasp
twilit gulch
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I'll do it maybe after mortas, just need 1 more copy

wide wasp
quartz salmon
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sadge

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damn yen opop

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and for luc cycle desira is better front than twins ig

misty epoch
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How many battles left?

quartz salmon
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6

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40% wr atm

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just above ainz team at 35%

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rest is 60%+

wide wasp
quartz salmon
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its standard budged cycle

wide wasp
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lucy twins ezizh desira and who?

quartz salmon
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luc twins E+ front desira M+20 Rowan Ezizh E+

wide wasp
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and rowan

quartz salmon
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desira +20 helps

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ye

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but 40% is the best I got this TS, yesterday it was 30 so very variable

wide wasp
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my av is 55%

quartz salmon
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av?

wide wasp
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total WR

quartz salmon
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oh right

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im at 54*

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im doing very poorly this ts :/

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2% atm

wide wasp
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if my luc5p was higher wi would be 60

wide wasp
quartz salmon
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region 38

wide wasp
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ohh we in same

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im at 3/4%

quartz salmon
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this ts rough

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merge is not nice lol

wide wasp
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im doing better than i did last time lol

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i was at 6.5% now im abt 3.5

quartz salmon
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you doing about the same? cause I usually rank just before t100 so 2% is low for me

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nice improvment

quartz salmon
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dim comp is 35% wr, imma try replacing merlin with yen and see how wr changes

quartz salmon
quartz salmon
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you have yen 000 right?

wide wasp
quartz salmon
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damn strong af

quartz salmon
wide wasp
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U want me to put in M+si20 rosa?

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Or 000 belinda?

quartz salmon
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nah merlin is probably best x)

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fuck I linked yen to estrilda what a dumb move

wide wasp
quartz salmon
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only way to make her useful lol

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im suprized you bothered putting her A

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oh it was before server i remeber we talked about this lol

wide wasp
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there is a yenn bugfix in new patchnotes.. maybe thats why shes so OP

quartz salmon
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yeah possibly

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does she need engraving btw?

storm moth
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bro wtf

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what is that scarlet wr

wide wasp
wide wasp
storm moth
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i dont

quartz salmon
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is that 67% on dims?

storm moth
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yeah

quartz salmon
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t5 would probably benefit from lyca

storm moth
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also 67 on gbs

quartz salmon
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but idk how t3 will do without her

storm moth
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true but idk what else to put into that athane shi

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yh

wide wasp
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my GBs is at 41

storm moth
quartz salmon
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cause I can link her to cecilia 0*

wide wasp
quartz salmon
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oh

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I havent picked up on that

wide wasp
quartz salmon
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argh crap

carmine shale
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C&R seems pretty damn strong, maybe worth sging for over Zaph?

low iron
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It's to the knockback of her barrier so at least they didn't adjust her ability to charm through invincibility.

tiny inlet
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Could you help me make a fifth team? Tried some maulers but L wutus sucks, 8%

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Maybe something with Swolise and Nevanthi? I'm bad at this tidussnout

storm moth
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dam im bad at this too tidussnout

twilit gulch
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5pull/cycle is what a lot of others are using

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Can maybe try that

wide wasp
tiny inlet
wide wasp
storm moth
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wtf

low iron
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5pull seems to do better than cycle a lot of time but your 5pull investment is low so your Eironn is slow and that'll hurt it a lot. It'll probably lead to Eironn pulling and instantly dying or getting roughed around before he can pull.

quartz salmon
quartz salmon
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200 is pretty good katsos

tiny inlet
wide wasp
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lol 200 until cap not 200 capbelovedzikis

tiny inlet
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309 is low investment, harsh times feelsbelindaman

twilit gulch
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I'll take the 200

wide wasp
twilit gulch
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Go into the woods and find some plants

quartz salmon
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water is decent food

wide wasp
quartz salmon
wide wasp
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and the plants are 420

quartz salmon
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Does pos seems good?

wide wasp
quartz salmon
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I usually see merlin front

wide wasp
quartz salmon
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and arthur survives longer than bedo i think, so I put her back

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ah right

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glad I asked lol

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ty

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is geralt any good in dim comp?

wide wasp
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you are inferior .. im smarter and better in evry way

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chocolate u have been typing for a while

low iron
quartz salmon
wide wasp
quartz salmon
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arent you a minor ?

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i cant call you that 😭

low iron
wide wasp
quartz salmon
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Random bullshit go or full maulers?

low iron
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Not sure how well that'll work but best of luck with it. You don't have a lot of the glue to make full maulers work either, I don't think. The Anasta is no engravings/no furniture/low SI so she'll probably die pretty fast and won't give the team healing/DR with her shout. Though that can't be helped without swiping or something, but at the moment she doesn't really do anything in the team.

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She sadly needs 9 furniture to give the team dr at least, otherwise she just points at someone, yells and pokes at them for the entire match. E30 is when she stops them from being able to get buffs on top, and e60 is where she gets the big-big team dr/healing.

tiny inlet
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Isnt that bad this rotation?

twilit gulch
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Better than ur 8%

tiny inlet
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I mean it cant get worse than 8% lmao

twilit gulch
tiny inlet
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We will see
Could i somehow change up my luc cycle with my new 309 anasta? katsos
Rn its luc, skreg, twins, rowan, ezizh

civic sage
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and I still doubt 5pull does better, but that's a possibility with low investment Ezizh/Twins ig

tiny inlet
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Team 6 neva, swolise team?

quartz salmon
tiny inlet
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My twins are 203 and eziz 200 lmao

civic sage
civic sage
tiny inlet
civic sage
misty epoch
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I am gonna try this

civic sage
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Also I'd use Ferael over Daimon

tiny inlet
tiny inlet
civic sage
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Although, since you have Zolrath you might want to run smth like Azor's comp

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and not use the Scarlet Estrilda comp commonly used by those with weaker accounts

tiny inlet
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Ah using ainz team

civic sage
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You can keep your teams as is, replacing Daimon with Ferael and adding Luc Cycle and you should go up significantly though

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I don't see any major error in your comps

tiny inlet
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Ye they work really well, surprised myself lol

low iron
tiny inlet
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Thanks for the advice, as usual 🙂

storm moth
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@civic sage haelus for athane comp or zol for burst first rakuhmm

civic sage
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I am personally running these + Ainz/GBs

civic sage
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if anyone tells you Zol that's a block

storm moth
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i mean ik its pretty stupid

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but zol sounds fun katsos

civic sage
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Haelus more fun belovedzikis

storm moth
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fund my thane pls

civic sage
storm moth
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btw i used a little over 200 cards for M+ khasosrun

storm moth
civic sage
storm moth
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got 3 from summons and stones tho

civic sage
storm moth
low iron
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I've been super unlucky on Thane. It's been 470 cards and he's just almost m+. rosalinesad

civic sage
storm moth
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lucky ahh

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i mean i got 6 in 200 but shush

quartz salmon
civic sage
storm moth
quartz salmon
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I have 4 thanes

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Never used tots

low iron
quartz salmon
opal bone
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@civic sage Where did you finish round 1, and where are you hovering now? belovedzikis

civic sage
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I think I should be able to maintain t100 until rewards come, I usually do better nearer to the end of TS

opal bone
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Really? rakuhmm

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Round 2 always seems harder.

civic sage
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Yeah, every TS I do better later on

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Think it's because of no Alna tidussnout

opal bone
low iron
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Later rounds are better for people with wider team boxes while earlier are better for taller with more singular team investments.

opal bone
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tbf alna gbs are pretty shit anyway

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this debuff

low iron
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So if you have even 6-7 'good' teams, it's usually better than 2 amazing and 5 bad for the second half.

opal bone
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I mean sure, that's common sense, but most people have similar box in this newer regions.

civic sage
low iron
opal bone
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Most people here fighting for it, as non spenders or low spenders will know what they are doing.

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For the most part.

low iron
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Right but you can see people like that who built up a single hero show up in the first half and drop off in the second.

opal bone
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Idk, there's this low spender on my server who keeps doing pvp investments for ineficient heroes and doesn't do that well even early on.

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He's an annoying little bish in LCT. belovedzikis

low iron
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At least for my region at 34, I saw some people with singular e80 heroes in the first half who were t100, and then don't show up later. They just drop off as their other teams get booli'd.

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And yeah, inefficiency is a thing.

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Sometimes you can put together a team that hits 50+% win-rate with weird heroes as long as it meshes to the buff, but it hurts meta team investments.

restive goblet
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Since cycle is shit anyways this round, is it smart to use haelus with Brutus instead (assuming no thane)?

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I haven’t tried Desira much in pvp

misty epoch
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I think she needs 209 to do well

dusk tundra
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My comps are definitely front loaded

carmine shale
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Wtf with the zolrath team at 23%

sacred notch
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That's what old regions do to you

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Although I didn't think it'd be that bad

carmine shale
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Thank god I started on the newest server 7 months ago

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I see so many newbs start on random servers

solemn sage
dusk tundra
granite mason
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Thank god im retired

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dont have to fight against those rowhale anymore

wise lion
solemn sage
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Ainz front because I swapped him in and forgot to change positions

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but did similar winrate to when he was in back

wise lion
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If it works it works

twilit gulch
wise lion
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🤷‍♂️

granite mason
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new strats confirmed

granite mason
twilit gulch
granite mason
twilit gulch
lime zinc
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My hybrid zol comp is doing ok (Zol/Zaph/Raku/LDV/Lyca)

restive goblet
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lol my Brutus + maulers team beat Brutus dims because my Brutus got the first kill .1 seconds before the other guy’s got a kill

gloomy lichen
restive goblet
gloomy lichen
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want to improve my abrutus random bs team. but gotta wait for final % wr

restive goblet
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I think it’s mostly Brutus being really strong in this buff. My whole team died really fast, but Brutus 1v4’d the enemy team because he had the first kill

gloomy lichen
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Unfortunately mine is only M

granite mason
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Athane best awk here cuz he can get first kill rly fast

restive goblet
lime zinc
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Even the ideal version of luc cycle still only gets 30-40%

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Maybe AwSol or smth makes it higher but it seems like a waste of AwSol anyway

dusk tundra
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AlnaGB and zol burst I found success

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I don’t remember how she did with dims

dusk tundra
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Makes it better. Use her skill over badens

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Tough region. Top 50

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Lol I get it. I was hesitant too because it’s basically 3 healers. But it performed the best over other variants with ferael, Athalia, Oden etc

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I had Lucy cycle with Solise but it wasn’t good

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Then had her in burst instead of Audrae. It did decent but not better than audrae

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Mine isn’t invested in. Only si20

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Surprisingly Athalia with dims is doing pretty good

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This disappointing though lol

worldly wedge
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If you're doing that you want Talene front and Skreg back

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Talene Brutus Skreg Ezio Joan makes the most sense

solemn sage
dusk tundra
solemn sage
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Yeah not sure, asolise not doing much for cycle

dusk tundra
solemn sage
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Might try the random wilders go thing I used last debuff

dusk tundra
opal bone
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Was trying to ping Raku but apparently he's not in this discord anymore.

lapis moth
wide wasp
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This is what happens uf u spend no money 🤡

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And NO i donot have anything else

lapis moth
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works well so far

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took scarlet to breakpoints looks like it is paying off

granite mason
wide wasp
granite mason
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Dont think cycle is strong this buff since ezizh or twins could die easily if u dont have them build up

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try another comp and put luc on 5pull

wide wasp
wide wasp
granite mason
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skill issue then

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why link queen with astar, astar is strong af in ts

wide wasp
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Idk

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My astar is 200

low iron
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Can't you unlink them for 100 diamonds and just link her to someone you're not using?

granite mason
low iron
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Good luck. 🙏

wide wasp
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then ill make a random team with queenastar

gloomy lichen
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Any suggestion? This scarlet team worked better at 5 team somehow.

lime zinc
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Cycle is bad but 5p sounds even worse

granite mason
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5p is a kind of burst

lime zinc
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5p is burst but expired because it's so out of date kHAHAsos

granite mason
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5p will clear the field in just few sec

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everything gets wiped, mostly is my teamhomegalul

lapis moth
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It depends on your investment and your region, to me freeing rowan for scarlet and using a mediocre luc 5p works well

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takes time for begginers to get cycle heroes invested, 5p is low budget

opal bone
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Im using cycle Lucy so I can use 5p Daimon as 6th.

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5p not doing great. belovedzikis

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Still 79th I guess.

lapis moth
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dat yen tho WAAAHsos

nocturne token
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investment pays off

low iron
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About to fall asleep but regarding 5p discussion, if this helps anyone, this Luc 5-pull is still going okay. Not sure why team 2 is at 57% but, t61 r34:

void raven
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Lf some good team comps (no athane, frampton or cruke)

opal bone
misty epoch
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Looks like mauler simp acc

lapis moth
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why no luc e60 belovedzikis

opal bone
round surge
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How can I fix my teams?

winter bone
lapis moth
winter bone
sacred notch
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R35 46th

gusty valley
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They really really need to implement some kind of system to identify similar/same-core teams and make sure the battles get randomized better between team types. Six battles in, with six teams per battle, I've only faced three different teams (with internal variations): AThane, Dims and (fully built ZaphAudrae) burst. Still have OK results given the opposing teams, but falling like a rock in rank, likely because a bunch of other players in similar rank face all random bullshit instead.

misty epoch
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How exactly do you suggest the algorithm would work though

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If it's rng, it will eventually even out in the long run

gusty valley
gusty valley
lapis moth
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The question is will they get money from it

gusty valley
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You probably can't get it so that you would NEVER face two AThanes or ABrutus in the same round of 5-7 fights, but you sure could make it less likely that your six fights were against three AThane and three ABRutus.

gusty valley
# lapis moth The question is will they get money from it

They very well might, since it would reduce the chance of someone paying a lot dropping down a tier just due to last day bad luck of team-lineups. Even for someone with seriously built accounts, facing all ABrutus-AThane teams would mean dropping, since there isn't 7 teams strong enough to beat that almost regardless of investment.

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You could pretty much argue the same about pity timer. They would make more from the whale having to pull 400 times to get a single Awakened-copy, except if it would happen twice he'd likely just get pissed and quit.

misty epoch
# gusty valley You probably can't get it so that you would NEVER face two AThanes or ABrutus in...

Even if such algorithm would work as intended (let's just ignore the comp variations now, along with how meta is changing, which would require constant re-evaluation of hero weighing), wouldn't it just increase the gap between whales and f2p/dolphins even more? Suppose dolphin has only 2 awk, while a whale has 5, whale player will basically guarantee higher win rate since they both face same amount of strong comps with awk, but the one with 5 awk will ofc have higher wr. This change would make f2p life even harder, than it already is imo.

gusty valley
wide wasp
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im at 2% now atm where u?

storm moth
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1% still @wide wasp

wide wasp
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im going up tho

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62% wr

storm moth
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im not lmao

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with 55% wr

wide wasp
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62 WR with one tem at 6% so if i can bring that up ill maybe get 1%

storm moth
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my 6th team is at 8% lycapalm

wide wasp
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so im not doing sting wrong🤣

solemn sage
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I swapped luc and alna position

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and went from 40% to 60% with no other changes on that team

lapis moth
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can't it be rng

solemn sage
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two rounds in a row

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first and second exploration today, both have luc alna at 60%+ winrate

wide wasp
solemn sage
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yesterday both rounds were 40-45%

lapis moth
solemn sage
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Might also be better having luc and athalia on opposite sides

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Yesterday

lapis moth
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doesn't luc go for highest CR tho

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might be you were just unlucky the first round and 60% is closer to your actual win rate

wide wasp
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or hes just lucky 2 round in a row

solemn sage
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I mean I'd expect winrate to go up a bit on it at 6 teams

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but not by 20%

wide wasp
solemn sage
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it was very consistent in previous rounds

lapis moth
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Hmm one can only guess without careful examination. Could be that alna helps take some heat off athalia maybe

solemn sage
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Day 6 40% and 38%, day 7 39% and 42%

lapis moth
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since luc doesn't stay in place as opposed to alna

solemn sage
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Day 8 60% and so far 60% again

wide wasp
solemn sage
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and scarlet cycle continuing to be awful

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Trying random wilders go instead tomorrow

wide wasp
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Dont mind my non-whale team

lapis moth
wide wasp
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All my teams...

solemn sage
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Giving this a shot

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for 7 teams I'm always clueless on this debuff though

storm moth
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i will get better wr with my scarlet comp tommorow babasmugga

wide wasp
icy spruce
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I wish my team6 had three e60s 😩

solemn sage
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probably gonna have to split up my abrutus team

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gonna miss that easy 80%

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okay 75% right now

wide wasp
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🐳

lapis moth
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@solemn sage adopt me please, looking for whale friends belovedzikis

wide wasp
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my teams 6 and 7 are in no way gonna get more than 10%

solemn sage
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I'll set up the casting couch when some of my friends go inactive

wide wasp
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reserve also a spot for me

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plz

wide wasp
solemn sage
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Fair warning asolise tends to be gone within a minute of sunday reset

lapis moth
wide wasp
storm moth
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asolise as a merc >>

lapis moth
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13 days for MV, RC 360 firefly cleared 39 at 365 can I make it belovedzikis

misty epoch
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What stage are you at

lapis moth
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gonna finish -40 in the next 30 minutes or so

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mostly held back by RC and gear

misty epoch
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5 levels is not much unless you're power capped

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Should be easy if you got all the necessary heroes to push

lapis moth
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still haven't used mercs either so if I get power capped it will not be an issue hopefully

restive goblet
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you built khazard or you just don’t need him that often?

misty epoch
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6th team at 11%, yikes zaphtears

lapis moth
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I built and used it a few times but could have done without it probably though with worse rng

quartz salmon
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I used kha once

sage badger
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top 2% r7 😔

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team 4 is a random bullshit go comp…

still heron
sage badger
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about 2k away :/

misty epoch
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Athane comp is doing good already, I'd focus on another team tbh

restive goblet
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My winrate is 57% but my rank is falling rakuhmm

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I guess I’m not beating up on the people below me hard enough

misty epoch
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Same, 60% but dropping rank

restive goblet
#

I think as lower ranked people fill up the division it kind of changes the dynamic

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and the top ranked people are already starting to move up to 7 teams

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So there’s like this wave of high winrate you have to ride

misty epoch
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Hard to ride the wave when I am struggling to make a function team 6/7 kHAHAsos

potent parrot
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peggy scramble meta

twilit gulch
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5pull struggling

civic sage
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@opal bone Yen is very good, didn't believe you WAAAHsos

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Got Yen to 003e30 and now Ainz is my highest WR at 78%

opal bone
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My Ainz has been 90% the entire time after getting her.

civic sage
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Now I need to consider if I e30 TS/CR heroes or just e30 for multi-use rakuhmm

opal bone
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That's what I try to do. belovedzikis

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I really need to figure out investments for 6th TS team though.

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Idk what to do.

restive goblet
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build Thane 🤪

opal bone
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Top tier advice. belovedzikis

restive goblet
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and if you already did, build Brutus

opal bone
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My friend, I am f2p belovedzikis

twilit gulch
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Don't be

restive goblet
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I’m going to try and split Yen and Ainz for 7 teams

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use like chicken and Kren and Yen and hopefully cheese some wins

opal bone
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I thought about that, but not sure where to use Yen.

twilit gulch
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Krennefer

opal bone
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Keep me posted on your results with it.

brave anchor
opal bone
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Mortas

civic sage
opal bone
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Or LDV if for some reason you're still using him in dims.

civic sage
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I've seen Yen work at 200 though

brave anchor
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I was using the Ac creed guy tbh

civic sage
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I think regardless of investment she just helps a lot against invading teams this debuff

twilit gulch
opal bone
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Which are most of the top teams.

brave anchor
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Is it the si30 shield doesn’t go away? Or doable at si20

brave anchor
#

Ok thanks

opal bone
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She scales well with stats though so any investment is good.

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And SI30 is higher shield uptime.

brave anchor
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Yeah I’m just always struggling for red box’s sadly

restive goblet
#

Does she need 3f? I assumed she did to reach the enemy wall, but I haven’t tried it without

opal bone
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Yea she wants 3F

civic sage
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3F is for her Frost magic

opal bone
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Doesn't need 9F that badly, 3F pretty cheap tbh.

civic sage
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it greatly increases the dmg of her skills, but imo the most favourable part of her kit is the force-field which produces knock-back

opal bone
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She should've been on everyone's furnlists 2.5 months ago.

civic sage
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I just got 3F and dropped her

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9F doesn't seem that great

restive goblet
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for this buff, she’s like a mini LDV with the frost/lightning magic

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and then she has a lot of team defense on top of that

opal bone
restive goblet
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it’s so funny to watch her 1 shot energy cycle teams

opal bone
restive goblet
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I think it would be cool to front line her with 9f

twilit gulch
restive goblet
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She charms someone, sets up the barrier, then ports to back middle and uses her frost magic

civic sage
brave anchor
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E60 seems good on her

civic sage
opal bone
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You had over 2 months to save. belovedzikis

civic sage
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I need to do Wutus and Haelus first unimpressedalna

restive goblet
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But you also have to save for whatever awakened you’re building and whoever you’re gazing belovedzikis

opal bone
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Wdym Wutus, there's no way you have 2 Awakened heroes already WAAAHsos

brave anchor
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Yeah just had to si30 who I gazed sadly

verbal root
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Don't know.. she is already working so well without E60, at least for me.. would rather get Nevanthi or another important one before her

civic sage
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I will probably have him A by the time I have enough for 2 e60s (at least I hope)

opal bone
brave anchor
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12 seconds to 6 seconds knock back is op

opal bone
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Unless for some reason you don't exchange for red cores.

civic sage
opal bone
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You are actually a clown then. tiduslaugh

brave anchor
opal bone
opal bone
civic sage
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it's simply normalized since people are impatient

opal bone
brave anchor
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Oh I just assumed that had to go to red box’s

civic sage
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and at that point maybe baits are better

opal bone
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Literally every other hero released needs e60.

brave anchor
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Where do you get your red box’s from solisespeechless

opal bone
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Here and there and everywhere.

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I definitely need more e60s than I need SI30s

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And soon I can start spending some lab coins on red chests.

brave anchor
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I see, I’m just playing catch up. So it’s a struggle ig

restive goblet
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When I started playing, getting like 100 red chests from an event was considered good

civic sage
restive goblet
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Getting cores is similar value to that

opal bone
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You get like 160 red chests from event I think.

restive goblet
#

now you do yeah

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It was 120 for a while

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and lower than that for some time before that

opal bone
#

I did use event for red chests initially.

brave anchor
#

Are we running windbreaker or warden on yen?

opal bone
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The last 4 months has been red cores.

opal bone
brave anchor
opal bone
#

But you definitely want to run Windbinder for the quicker cc.

lilac bobcat
#

Lucretia so bad

opal bone
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She's trying WAAAHsos

lilac bobcat
#

Mf has lower wr than ainz

opal bone
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@civic sage Where do you use your Anasta again? belovedzikis

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I'm about to give in, MV last copy and 309e60 her.

lilac bobcat
#

Anasta for burst

opal bone
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My LDV raku already doing well, she needs to be in another team rakuhmm

lilac bobcat
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Or normal abrutus comp

opal bone
lilac bobcat
#

Who tf doesn't have burst

civic sage
lilac bobcat
misty epoch
lilac bobcat
#

Anasta frees out mishka

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You can switch Mish for anasta

opal bone
#

And I don't use Mishka there either, sec.

restive goblet
#

that poor Anasta

civic sage
opal bone
#

I have 10 cards and 7k cores WAAAHsos

restive goblet
#

Stuck carrying a team of noobs

opal bone
#

need one more copy

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Trying to save my MV HCP for Eorin.