#treasure-scramble

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opal bone
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That's 3/10 slots rakuhmm

lime zinc
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Well I could put her in a single WL slot ig

opal bone
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Yea, I just had her on wlist, didn't card dupes.

lime zinc
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But I've had times were I literally go 6 months without it landing on a specific WL slot

opal bone
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Also I just checked and my Mishka is dangerously close to Scarlet in power even with 20SI and 4 Scarlet dupes.

lime zinc
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Mish just has high CR

lime zinc
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My Mish is 5.8% higher CR than Scarlet, so pretty far away

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5* vs 2 is a big diff

frozen crest
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mine's 9.7% higher

tiny inlet
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Good enough for T5?

opal bone
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How come so few Scarlet stars though, haven't you had her on LB wish list since start? Like my account is 10 months old and I would never take Scarlet off for any of the LBs I don't have A ready.

lime zinc
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Sad comps

opal bone
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They're so trash.

tiny inlet
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I prefer 309 all > 4036 specific heroes

frozen crest
opal bone
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She has such wide use and good scaling that furn dupes are genuinely worth imo.

tiny inlet
lime zinc
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Honestly doesn't seem like a bad idea (assuming you've got a lot of core furns done already), just that it's slow af like any furn

frozen crest
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no idea, im just ch36

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ask mingles

opal bone
frozen crest
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astar

opal bone
lime zinc
opal bone
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Yea, and 303 is fine for Astar, but keep her on wish list for 9 if she's not, and e3x asap.

lime zinc
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My garbage budget burst is running 30330 Astar front rn budget when it's running 30960 Atha and 303 Zaph because they're still budget compared to Audrae or AwThane

tiny inlet
lime zinc
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Front LDV prob matches better vs opposing middle Atha, but for everything else I think middle LDV would prob be better

opal bone
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My sketch Raku LDV comp has 34% win rate as 5th team, I'll take it.

lime zinc
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The comp matchups of my region got a lot weirder since the last time this buff was around, idk if pets were around for the last one

quartz salmon
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do you only do sg now?

frozen crest
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hcp+sg

quartz salmon
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ah I see

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does that new wilder do anythign in t1 ?

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54% seems a bit low to me

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you not putting grez?

frozen crest
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4 teams alna gb with grez was ~55%

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i just put eorin and my rank is going up so elishrug

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also damn he feels like athane

quartz salmon
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hm aight I see

alpine grove
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How can I make this team better?

quartz salmon
frozen crest
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no

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still f2p vegan

quartz salmon
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oh...

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how you get 2 cel to mythic in the time I got one lol

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skill issue ig

frozen crest
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i skipped khaz

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because he's ass.

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:D

frozen crest
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better overall wr i guess

alpine grove
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I just mean the bottom team. I’m happy with my other ones

frozen crest
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ic

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you can make it better by turning it into luc scuffed cycle

granite mason
alpine grove
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Like this?

frozen crest
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hows your desira

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and skreg furn?

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probably want to run that already in 4 teams but w/e

alpine grove
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I don’t have desira or skreg built. My next mauler is Anasta and my next GB is Hodg

frozen crest
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i see

storm moth
frozen crest
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how's haelus

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near 30960?

storm moth
alpine grove
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Bruh my rc is 310 I just finished Khaz

frozen crest
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is that a yes or no

alpine grove
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That’s a no

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Wanna see all my boxes?

storm moth
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try L asolise

frozen crest
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no thanks, wouldnt have any idea who to put in cycle other than those 3 kekw

alpine grove
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I don’t have an L asolise either but I could grab one

frozen crest
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pretty strong for trift

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but

alpine grove
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Worth grabbing one then?

frozen crest
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but

alpine grove
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But?

frozen crest
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exactly

alpine grove
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What

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But what, exactly?

quartz salmon
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just but

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message was pretty clear areyouseirus

alpine grove
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I don’t know what but is

storm moth
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if

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you want to push rift

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if no dont

alpine grove
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I’m only on 280 but I should prob push as the rewards are pretty good. Just so boring

storm moth
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shes really strong in rift

quartz salmon
civic sage
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I think she’s an amazing tool for new players in rift

alpine grove
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I'm about to have used up all my retries at floor 294

civic sage
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Much stronger than the variant used before her, which was Daimon cycle

civic sage
alpine grove
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Nah I only started like 2 days ago

storm moth
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twins M so good babasmugga t63

lapis moth
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any way to improve raku team?

storm moth
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also why do you use L brutus in ainz unimpressedalna

lapis moth
storm moth
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no merlin is hard tru

polar dune
hasty scaffold
steady hill
lime zinc
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My GBs and Scarlet are back to being >50% now

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Wish I could run that burst but my Anasta still needs a lot of work zaphtears

heavy portal
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Any ideas to fix this

frozen crest
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post box

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those seem ass teams

steady hill
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what im suprised is that teams work

frozen crest
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at 100% yeah

opal bone
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Time for 5p Daimon 6th team. belovedzikis

gusty valley
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Shem OP!

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(Probably depends greatly on current ranking&prestige, and what opponents one's facing...)

opal bone
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Not sure if serious. belovedzikis

heavy portal
opal bone
granite mason
frozen crest
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t6 better bullshit 5p or maulers go!

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fuck you old me who didnt post t7

gusty valley
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team7 is always the random:est of random bullshit anyway. 😄

frozen crest
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my random bs does better than 5p

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not sure if it's in all debuff tho

misty epoch
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5p is pretty bad this rotation I think

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In fact I don't think 5p is ever good

glacial chasm
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Hellooo

frozen crest
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yea exactly

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random bs it id

obtuse mauve
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Shem is actually good in this cycle debuff. Definitive proof (jk, kind of):

frozen crest
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nice

hasty scaffold
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Time to build Shem

obtuse mauve
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Her beam insta killed my talene multiple times. Hits every 0.5s is huge in this debuff

gusty valley
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Right, she will hit everybody often!! Went through the rooster last time, but she wasn't even on PvP radar... 🙂

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Perhaps not prio1, but might be good for the upcoming RandomBullshit...

obtuse mauve
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Well, I'm not saying she's worth building, but lots of people build her anyway, so it's a chance for them to put her to use

frozen crest
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nice

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tbh the first hero that literally came into my mind when i first read that debuff months ago was shemira

hasty scaffold
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#MakeShemiraMetaAgain

frozen crest
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#SheWasNeverMeta

sacred notch
frozen crest
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no lyca?

sacred notch
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I think that was a thing I was trying last time this rotation came around

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Forgot to change back

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It's changed now

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Still, not a winrate to scoff at

frozen crest
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i see

sacred notch
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Astar the goat

hasty scaffold
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Astar > Raku

frozen crest
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raku took luc's hunt thing or whatever to make astar pop off

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he's a team player

molten sparrow
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I'm at the point where I need a 5th team, who should I use as my team?

frozen crest
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raku ldv best bet

storm moth
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100% wr ong

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idk how did i go from 2% last season to ~50 this season

frozen crest
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you believed

storm moth
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maybe

molten sparrow
lapis moth
pine halo
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need help making ts teams.. mine aint it

gusty valley
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This debuff feels sooooooo ramdom. Same teams, same bracket/nr of teams. One round GrezAlnaGB has 67% wr, next round, 30 fights in, they’re at 35%. WTF…

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…same with LucCycle, Ainz, and ZolrathMishka burst:ish. Like 30% winrate swing between rounds. Only two teams that seem repeatably good for me is AThane and LucAlnaGB…

misty epoch
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I think the debuff is just making it more rng

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Are they making it harder to get into top 100 or some shit?

storm moth
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ikr? alna gbs is 8% higher than random bs

gusty valley
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I don’t know if it’s any harder to get top100. More that your placement will be more random. Seems to affect everybody. I’ve just been bouncing back snd forward in the leaderboard, and so does everybody else it seems.

misty epoch
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No, I mean from next patch

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Idk why they always use these ambiguous wordings

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Adjusted the divisions and increased rewards for some rankings

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Like just fking say 'increased rewards for rankings attainable only by whales'

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Anyway, just a bit of rant

storm moth
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feel you

gusty valley
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I mean, one of my region whales, like LC quarterfinal level, is currently 26:th!?

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All five-star whites…

misty epoch
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What regions are you in?

gusty valley
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R14

restive goblet
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If they mean they’re splitting regions, then it would be easier to get top100. If they’re consolidating regions then it would be harder.

misty epoch
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I am betting it's the 2nd option

restive goblet
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They could also be splitting the newest region and consolidating all the others

sacred notch
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I don't think they put it in the patch notes that they're splitting regions last time

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So I'd imagine it's the latter

misty epoch
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Time to milk some more from f2p/low spenders

gusty valley
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I’m guessing they are adjusting regions due to ppl quitting and imbalance in numbers between regions.

storm moth
gusty valley
storm moth
hasty scaffold
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It’s probably consolidation of regions which sucks lorsob

storm moth
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2% is the dream then

twilit gulch
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I'll prob be safe....there's like 45 servers in r71 rn

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Imagine they merge r69 and r70 hoganLUL

misty epoch
icy surge
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I doubt that it will work on anyone WAAAHsos

civic sage
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It works on quite a few ppl it seems

gusty valley
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Honestly not too sure about that when even the streamers tell ppl to just give up on CR since it’s now whale only.

misty epoch
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Streamers can say what they want, I feel like they don't have that big of an influence as in other games

twilit gulch
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Who even streams this game...

misty epoch
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FHP and maybe Volkin? Idk

potent parrot
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watching ppl play mobile games 🤡

low iron
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Sometimes people stream mobile games with real time pvp for tournaments and stuff or card games, but I can't imagine watching someone play an afk autoplaying mobile game focused on microtransactions.

sacred notch
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I know fhg streams, Volkin just does infotainment videos

lime zinc
granite mason
lime zinc
frozen crest
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i still wonder up to this day how some comps get odd winrate after 50 battles

granite mason
frozen crest
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savin this, will never get as high anymore

lapis moth
frozen crest
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no ldv?

sacred notch
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i refuse to believe that ainz comp with l brutus has a better winrate than my normal ainz comp

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this game sucks

lapis moth
lapis moth
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already have everything ready to make him 20936

frozen crest
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well im not an expert but this is what i run

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random bullshit>>>>>>>>5p

lapis moth
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non invested eironn and skriath really don't do well in pvp I noticed

sacred notch
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skriath just isnt a pvp hero in the first place

storm moth
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i think my 5p is broken belovedzikis

lime zinc
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At least it isn't negative WR kHAHAsos

frozen crest
lime zinc
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GB wr shot up at 6 team
Also my 6th is such trash that I can freely experiment kHAHAsos

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Stall was horrible, next attempt is random BS invade, after that it'll be 5p or KrenDV

hasty scaffold
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Framton less invade is sadge lorsob

lime zinc
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I'm only hoping my invade gets a 2 digit WR

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Can I just get an AW every 10x so I can get one done zaphtears

steady hill
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team 4 bonkers

lime zinc
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holy shit 72%

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Not having a 30960 Anasta is really fucking me lmoa

opal bone
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Lmoa indeed.

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My 6th team is 2% but at least Scarlet is 92% I guess. rosalinesad

low iron
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Just popping by because this wr surprised me, regular Thane is actually okay this round because of his absurd amount of hits - t27 r61

frozen crest
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sheeesh

opal bone
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309e3x Tasi solisegasp

frozen crest
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if it works it works

sacred notch
quartz salmon
lapis moth
quartz salmon
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damn nice

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did you whale it ?

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or you got 11 copies with 200 tot kHAHAsos

lapis moth
lapis moth
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got the VIP deals with the cards and a couple of extra yuexi deals, not sure how much it is but not cheap sigh

quartz salmon
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yh I see

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that Athane is gonna kick ass

lapis moth
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at least I got the level 2 monthly chests vip thing so now I get double the cores

lapis moth
quartz salmon
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engraving cores ?

lapis moth
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game wants me to have it

lapis moth
quartz salmon
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buying extra red is better imo

sacred notch
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The monthly card

quartz salmon
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that shit gives cores?

sacred notch
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The chest gives juice PoE fodder or cores, u choose it

quartz salmon
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ahh yes okI see

sacred notch
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I chose PoE early on, pivoted to cores, now going juice

quartz salmon
quartz salmon
lapis moth
sacred notch
quartz salmon
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usually in those chest you get 400 PoE for 20 yellow shards

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here its 20 cores

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op op

lapis moth
sacred notch
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This is all hypothetical

still heron
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Sure smuglucius

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And im stuck in early game homegalul

lapis moth
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These are probably similar diamond values so probably doesn't matter which you go for if it is what you need the most

sacred notch
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Diamond value is something I don't even consider

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Juice op

quartz salmon
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yeah I mean for you you dont really care about cores

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but im suprised you can get 20 cores from that chest

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I though it was shards

sacred notch
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Shards is the other one

lapis moth
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20 cores and at vip12 you get 2 chests

quartz salmon
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yeah I just saw

sacred notch
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I do care about cores, just not as much anymore

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My tree sucks ass

quartz salmon
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ahh but its 40 juice... hmm

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so jsut PoE is a bad choice then i think

sacred notch
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Again, value is something I don't really consider

lapis moth
sacred notch
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PoE is probably one of the most common resources where I'm at

sacred notch
quartz salmon
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got that advacnced twisted realm pack katsosrowhale

sacred notch
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Don't even have enough for awk e60 right now

low iron
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As more heroes come out and rely on their e60s, Cores become such a luxury. Some heroes don't really pop off until they get their e60s.

quartz salmon
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who do you have awked?

sacred notch
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Saving for when baden drops

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Then deciding

sacred notch
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I also want talene e65

quartz salmon
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is that confirmed? baden awk

sacred notch
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Yes

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Been confirmed about a week now

low iron
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Yeah, it's been posted around for a while - on here and on reddit and other social sites^

quartz salmon
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champion of esperia

sacred notch
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I buy champ of experia for juice

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Stopped buying for PoE

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Awhile ago

quartz salmon
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or twisted boosties you can also choice cores iirc

lapis moth
sacred notch
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I take cores from champ, juice from twisted

lapis moth
sacred notch
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Once

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When early

quartz salmon
storm moth
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dam that 2% 5p made me drop from 50 -> 80

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lel

quartz salmon
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5p is shit

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i stopped doing that forreal i dont this its good at all

lapis moth
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I'm also still getting poe from there, might stop soon though maybe get once more

storm moth
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i mean what else am i supposed to do at 6 teams

lapis moth
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furnitures take so much time to get done

quartz salmon
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  • you have Athane for me you could get more than 18% on t6
storm moth
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me?

quartz salmon
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no madao

storm moth
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oh okay

quartz salmon
sacred notch
quartz salmon
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idk why I cant get above 2% its really bothering me

lapis moth
sacred notch
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Alright

quartz salmon
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t6 is just so bad for me this time around i dotn recall what I did last time

sacred notch
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Just don't take shards

quartz salmon
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yeah shards sucks

lapis moth
quartz salmon
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im still taking poe from twisted

lapis moth
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but that is probably just temporary

sacred notch
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I wait I'm taking baits from twisted

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Just checked

quartz salmon
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lol

lapis moth
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do you really think baits are worth getting as a resource

quartz salmon
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nah xD

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idgaf personally about baits

lapis moth
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seems like it will only help you in 5-6 multibattles or something, and will take a huge amount of time to start seeing results

low iron
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Honestly, if you don't get Baits, you'll start falling behind in the long run, but they're not worth it until the long-investment so it hurts in the short-term. Pets are a huge boost in stats but it takes a while for them to really shine. But if you don't start investing into them, it'll be months and months for them to be of any real use.

quartz salmon
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yeah they do give really nice boosts

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idk I just dotn like em

low iron
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Right.

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I think it's a terribly greedy system with the way it's currently set.

quartz salmon
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still not sure what pet to focus on

lapis moth
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I mean you probably need to get at least level 12 for them to be actually useful and there are so many of them lol

low iron
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Yeah - you need level 12 at least for them to really pop off, but to get even 3 pets to level 12, it takes what - like, 25+k bait total? But it's a huge difference for someone with high pets and someone without - it's just you don't see much change until those big pop-offs and so it's a huge drain of resources until you get there.

quartz salmon
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yeah atleast

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true

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atm im focusing a bit more on campaign so I havent really had the chance to see a diff with and without pets

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cause pets in camapign just doesnt do shit

lapis moth
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maybe getting it from twisted a couple of times will be nice, need to wait until people figure out what's good first though lol

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let others whale it first

low iron
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Interested to see how the upcoming Pet Training and level 0/6 changes affect pets.

twilit gulch
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The lvl 6 skills just got changed to lvl 0

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And the new lvl 6 skills just buff the lvl 0 skill

low iron
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So did 12 get change to 6 or is 6 just empty then until 12?

twilit gulch
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12 is still the same

low iron
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Right, I see. So probably doesn't really change much. Good to know - thanks.

twilit gulch
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Makes it feel more rewarding to pull a beast initially but for them to really work still need lvl 12

low iron
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Fire Breather and Winged Lion 6 are at least a decent boost. It gave Winged 200 energy battery and Fire Breather an early shield. The rest seem mostly to be just number boosts.

twilit gulch
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Yea there's also beast training

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At lvl 3/9/15

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Gains or enhance abilities

low iron
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Right, good to know. Thank you for the elaboration. 🙏

twilit gulch
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Good change overall but still hard to actually reach lvl 12 due to low bait drops

low iron
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Right - yeah.

quartz salmon
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skirath no use whatsoever in ts ?

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I have him 303 dunno where to slot him

sacred notch
frozen crest
quartz salmon
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im doing 5p asta daimon weird bs go

frozen crest
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well unless you can make 2 random bullshit teams for t6 and 7 i think 5p would be the best choice

quartz salmon
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yeah i agree

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but still... 5p ass

frozen crest
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ye

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thats why i run it in 7th

quartz salmon
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5p was like 10/15% ig

frozen crest
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5p always gave me 1 digit wr in 6 teams lmao

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so im not gonna try testing it

quartz salmon
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ah yes same lol

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even with asta in?

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she gives shield so might boost it a lil

hasty scaffold
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Asta? He is a hero now?

frozen crest
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i thought asta doesnt have magic powers

quartz salmon
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yes he was so popular they made him his own hero

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duh

frozen crest
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anw idk i forgot but id rather keep astar in raku to not drop their wr

hasty scaffold
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Asta - The Alna Hater. Gonna be a hypogean

quartz salmon
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I have kren in raku team rn and its doing nicely

frozen crest
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wait isnt asta just like the lion girl

quartz salmon
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might do the same as you and put him in t6 tho

frozen crest
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big ass sword then screams

frozen crest
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allocate some good shit on raku

quartz salmon
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do you have have JoA tho?

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imo talene Joa frotn is nice for raku asta

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  • ldv
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imma do then when astar is 309

frozen crest
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yea should be nice

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but im not in the mood to put arthur in ainz

quartz salmon
quartz salmon
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I put him there but meh

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hes just meh

frozen crest
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tbh im prolly not gonna test a lot of shit and see what's optimal

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aint gonna bother battling for t20 without woke hero lol

quartz salmon
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yeah just try to keep that sub t100 and you are gud

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im battling to get below 2% areyouseirus

storm moth
quartz salmon
storm moth
quartz salmon
storm moth
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even im t100 smh

quartz salmon
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Wait wtf I was always looking at top 5 to see if I had any krakens in my region but nonono apparently everyone in t100 has an awakened 309e60

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What is this dolphin region

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Everyone a dolphin

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I have no krakens but I’m like the only f2p I can find

quartz salmon
storm moth
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fair enough

opal bone
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I'm f2p in 67. belovedzikis

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But I also noticed that. Maybe fewer mega whales, though even that is debatable, but issue is that there are so many medium spenders and Aw everywhere.

low iron
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Time for us all to drop out of t100 after they merge regions together. sadira

twilit gulch
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Are they actually merging regions together?

quartz salmon
opal bone
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Same as here

quartz salmon
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Nvm

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Yeah I just saw you

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T69

low iron
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We'll find out, who knows how they'll reorganise the TS regions but them increasing rewards for TS with the rewards already being as good as they are will probably mean it'll be harder for the average player.

opal bone
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Going to splurge soon.

quartz salmon
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I have to say. You are the only person I have seen without Athane

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And I followed like 30 people in t100 lol

quartz salmon
lone void
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@twilit gulch ayy sup

quartz salmon
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@twilit gulch noob

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Get owned

lone void
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he's a few servers newer, i have garbo teams. will see how alna+gb works with M alna tomorrow :/

quartz salmon
twilit gulch
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Loool

quartz salmon
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Maybe Norma GBs would be better

twilit gulch
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Gonna get t50 next TS

lone void
quartz salmon
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But try it for sure

lone void
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wasnt doing too hot earlier

quartz salmon
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I used to run Daimon front its okish

quartz salmon
still heron
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Damn, Jacob almost Ch. 40

restive goblet
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At this point I don’t think having awakened heroes makes you a spender. Older f2p are close to the point of having enough emblems for 2 ascended.

lone void
still heron
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Is that true ? @cold ridge ☝️

low iron
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And then you have those poor people who spent their ToTs on aEzizh.

hasty scaffold
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I spoke to an f2p player at chapter 43ish today who has 2 awakeneds so I guess it’s possible

restive goblet
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I have Brutus ascended and I have 510 cards atm

cold ridge
hasty scaffold
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It’s in questions let me find

sacred notch
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Oh I think I remember

sacred notch
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He had talene and solise

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Was asking about furn dupes

still heron
cold ridge
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1 awakened as f2p is easily possible, for 2 you need extremly good rates which is highly unlikely unless your account is very old

cold ridge
sacred notch
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This guy

cold ridge
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but no, 0 awakened so far 😉

hasty scaffold
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@still heron

still heron
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Damn his account is old af

cold ridge
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I mean I have 577 time emblems, could be more if I started earlier to buy. Additionally I have Talene L+ by random pulls- you can now calculate how probable it is to have 2 awakened ascended

restive goblet
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I spent a bit over 400 getting Brutus to ascended (got lucky) and I have 507 right now. I was lucky that they allowed us to exchange stargazers during the initial event because I exchanged like 120 I was hoarding at the time.

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and I bought them in the store since day 1

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So f2p who are higher rc than me and have pushed the towers a lot have had like 1k+ cards potentially

still heron
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I used 587 cards for fücking 11 copies zaphtears

verbal root
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F2P is a broad term as someone with a 3 years account cannot compare with someone who is in the game for 1 year and don't even have the stargazing priorities built. When awakened heroes arrived, I didn't even had Alna built so I thought skipping cards for more stargazing chances was a good idea.. I was lucky enough to get Solise in around 400 cards, but I can imagine the frustration of someone being screwed by RNG and needing 600+ cards for an awakened hero.

misty epoch
verbal root
misty epoch
polar dune
misty epoch
hasty scaffold
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Yes me too f2p and vegan btw

verbal root
shell jungle
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funny number

misty epoch
shell jungle
quartz salmon
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t5 lacking behind a bit

shell jungle
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that team sucks for this debuff but whatever

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don’t have much else

quartz salmon
#

Yeah I bet

shell jungle
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ima build anasta soon so maybe that’ll help

quartz salmon
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Are you gonna build up astar aswell?

shell jungle
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yeah i might +30 her next, e30, and then e60 anasta

quartz salmon
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Yeah that would be nice for those teams

shell jungle
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i have enough shards for two e30, so i’m debating on just doing astar rn

quartz salmon
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Imo yeah go for it lol

shell jungle
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i was initially saving for zaph, currently M+, but it might take a while for A1* anyways

quartz salmon
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Im guessing you don’t have many other option

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Yeah you probably have time to get 3750 shards

shell jungle
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astar it is

restive goblet
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My ainz team is at 14% right now baaaaa

shell jungle
quartz salmon
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Ouch

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What happen lol

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Bad region or bad investment belovedzikis

restive goblet
quartz salmon
shell jungle
restive goblet
shell jungle
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arthur outdated tidussnout

restive goblet
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JoA is in the 64% team

shell jungle
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i c

cinder cargo
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Is ainz any good in team 6

shell jungle
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is it worth suffering on that team to make due with the other notsureiferael

quartz salmon
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Brutussy gets you that wr tbh I would love her to ainz team

shell jungle
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mine isn’t doing terrible

cinder cargo
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That's actually really decent

shell jungle
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for this debuff especially

low iron
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Ainz struggles this TS but is probably better than a random deck if you don't have much else. It also depends on how many aBrutus's your region has and how often you run into them.

quartz salmon
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True but I think Jeanne would be better value in ainz team, I don’t see wr being too impacted on t6 cause AwBrutus

restive goblet
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I could use chicken or something to fill for her in the Brutus team

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Skriath is 003 but the pull is nice to get everyone in Brutus ult range

quartz salmon
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Hm birdperson is quite bad imo

low iron
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||Thesku 20930+ does very well from what I found before but depends on if you have him - CC/Energy Drain/Shields/Second Life/Multiple Damage per Second procs.||

quartz salmon
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Wow how did you do that

restive goblet
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I could do queen I guess

quartz salmon
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||ohhhh interesting||

restive goblet
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she does lots of hits and invades

quartz salmon
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Yeah maybe, you could try for next rota with Jeanne in ainz and queen or something else

quartz salmon
lime zinc
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My Ainz has been doing really well this TS, but without Joan the wr would tank

quartz salmon
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Same

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Ainz team is doing actually decently for me

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Doesn’t suck ass like it used to be areyouseirus

restive goblet
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In wins, Kren usually did like 2/3 Brutus damage

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In losses he does like 0

low iron
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Probably because Joan hits once every 3 seconds to the entire enemy team passively and boosts ATK of the team, on top of her normal hits - so the damage procs and buffs help to boost Ainz' ultimate so the damage isn't hurt as badly by the single-hit DR.

lime zinc
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Kren is kinda more just supporting stun with the backline mine for AwBrutus start kb

restive goblet
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the smoke bombs are good too

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and if he ults, it just clinches it

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but he can’t really take any hits

fading osprey
low iron
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Oh, with aBrutus when they were asking for a fill-in. He has high haste and insight, can ultimate pretty quickly and does damage over time with cc+energy drain on top of a self-shield proc that lowers enemy def and an extra life.

fading osprey
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Ah, I'm using kren with wutus do u think thesku would be a better replacement ?

lime zinc
# restive goblet

Could try running Talene in Maulers and moving Joan to dims to see if that improves overall WR

low iron
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I think it depends, I would have to actually try it out later but just in terms of just a stuff-in replacement it seems like it would be decent - I'm playing around with some other stuff right now.

restive goblet
fading osprey
lime zinc
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Woahhh, my 6th team invade is actually 2 digit WR kHAHAsos

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That's better than I expected

low iron
fading osprey
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I tried him, not in a really good team but he wasn't that useful

restive goblet
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My highest winrate team this round is e+ twins energy cycle badenpathetic

lime zinc
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Ainz is my 2nd highest WR now at 6 team, GBs and Scarlet tied 3rd at 55%

low iron
restive goblet
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Does anybody know if the order of your teams matters?

fading osprey
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Iirc it don't

lime zinc
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Pretty sure it doesn't

misty epoch
lime zinc
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Joan/Alb/Merlin/Ezio/Ainz

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They're decently high invest too

misty epoch
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I am debating whether to start running Ainz or not, probably should

lime zinc
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Well mine's like over 60% wr rn

misty epoch
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Running this right now, t54 r64

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2% wr 😂

lime zinc
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Only top 2% tho

alpine grove
#

Bruh I have a 52% win rate overall as well but I’m in top 22%

lapis moth
#

alna gb same as scarlet dafuq is going on lol

icy spruce
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Idk but don’t stop

storm moth
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bro r68 is so free

icy spruce
#

Facts

storm moth
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how can i be in top 100 with 18% and 0% comp

icy spruce
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Top 50 with my Mauler Tower team hoganLUL

storm moth
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man i need that ldv

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and cores

icy spruce
#

Same

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I wanna get a cracked Anasta like everyone from the screenshots

lapis moth
storm moth
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supa skill issue

misty epoch
storm moth
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yeah soon

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engraving reset should give me e60 mishka tho

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if it comes one day

misty epoch
#

Maybe in half a year rakutongue

storm moth
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i should take cores over poe from nobles belovedzikis

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idk why i didnt do it earlier

twilit gulch
#

0%floradeadeyes

storm moth
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and why no dps unimpressedalna

sacred notch
#

From twisted take PoE and then juice or bait, champion take reds and then cores

storm moth
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breh do you really think i need poe rn

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with only e60 lucy

sacred notch
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So then go juice or bait

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Don't take shards

storm moth
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yeah juice is also an option

storm moth
#

i just thought that there are cores belovedzikis

twilit gulch
sacred notch
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Cores are in the lab noble

twilit gulch
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I took shards last time

sacred notch
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Engraving is temporary, animals and trees are forever

icy spruce
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Save the world

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🌎

sacred notch
polar dune
sacred notch
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But tree is always in effect no matter who ur using

polar dune
#

eironnuwu then just engrave everything

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then it will be in effect on whoever you use

twilit gulch
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Flaw 200 iq

restive goblet
#

Would taking Grez to e60 help much with alna+Gb? 99th in r59

civic sage
quartz salmon
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do you think gerald is worth going +20si for random bullshit go ?

red apex
#

Fking huge buff guys. Time card if you are in top 100

bright light
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wtf badensweat

sacred notch
#

Dang they buffed cr and TS

bright light
#

double core chests for t50 + time cards + 25 reds 🐳

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that’s pog

sacred notch
#

Us whales cough I mean f2p stay winning

bright light
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even T4 chest, I think t50 gets T3 rn

red apex
frozen crest
#

HOLY SHIT

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POGGGG

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my wish came true

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constant t50 means 12 timecards every 2 weeks

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pretty good income

twilit gulch
#

😲

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LFG

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Gonna keep spending staying f2p

frozen crest
#

yeah

sacred notch
#

Cr and TS enjoyers stay winning

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It quite literally pays to play optimally now

frozen crest
#

number 11

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they also mentioned region changing or some shit, so they mightve mad eit harder

twilit gulch
#

They didn't say CR rewards were gonna get changed

frozen crest
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or perhaps easier

sacred notch
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Oh I totally missed the part on increased rewards the first time I looked at it

frozen crest
#

we prayge

frozen crest
sacred notch
#

Speaking of

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Why has there never been a cr channel?

twilit gulch
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I mean either way

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It doesn't matter

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I'm not gonna rank high in cr

sacred notch
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If u can even squeak into top 38% I think

twilit gulch
sacred notch
#

2 sg

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And like 400 of shard core and juice

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Or smth

twilit gulch
#

Haven't even unlocked it

sacred notch
#

Rip

frozen crest
#

ur a whale right

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soon youll unlock it anyways

twilit gulch
#

I'm f2p

frozen crest
#

gotta fight for that top100 in cr

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as an f2p

twilit gulch
#

Classy can do a demo for me

sacred notch
#

We're f2p in spirit

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What

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Demo

twilit gulch
#

Top 100 CR

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So I can learn from the best

low iron
#

Wait, I thought everyone was F2P in AFK. Has everyone been lying? zaphshock

sacred notch
#

I can barely hit top 50% bruh

twilit gulch
sacred notch
#

When I get my first awk, then we can talk

twilit gulch
#

And ur telling me to hit 38%

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Why don't u have awakened yet

frozen crest
#

because he's f2p

sacred notch
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I been saving, haven't whales tot

twilit gulch
#

What happened to all ur kren dorras

sacred notch
#

And spent card's unwisely when I started

twilit gulch
frozen crest
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what did u spend it on lol

red apex
#

Funny how last year everyone was extremely happy if lilith gave out some scamgazing cards as rewards in some vow.

frozen crest
#

alene?

twilit gulch
#

AEzizh

nocturne token
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nice decision

twilit gulch
#

ToT is the new meta now

sacred notch
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Not to brag, but I have 3 copies of atalene and 2 copies of both aezizh and thane

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I'm so good

twilit gulch
#

Teach me your ways

sacred notch
#

I do private lessons, $100 an hour

red apex
#

Do you guys think Abaden will be athane tier in ts based on his skill set?

frozen crest
#

wow thats cheap

sacred notch
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I haven't looked at his skills but I know he'll be s tier because he looks cool

low iron
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He has a skill that deals 640% ATK to a target which is high - but he dies if both he and his clone die and seems reliant on energy so that he can stay alive to reclone. So he might be really bad in Blizzard.

twilit gulch
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He does have a skill that steals energy

low iron
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Right - but that energy gain is also lowered, no?

red apex
low iron
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I think his survivability is good - it just depends on who you're facing and if they can deal with both clones at once or in quick succession. And anyone who prevents ultimates might hurt him a lot on top - Cycle teams for example, because they'll give him a vulnerability period.

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His damage is likely going to be pretty good though - because both he and his clone can use his skills and receive buffs. So Razor Leaf says 350% but it's really more like 700%. Vine Lash is 2x 320% but it's more like 4x 320%, which is a lot of damage for normal skills - on top of preventing enemies from healing.

polar dune
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he's gonna be good in blizzard

low iron
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In Blizzard he'll drain enemies in an frontal AoE of 560 energy, and he has IS at e80+ at least. I just bring it up because it relies on him hitting the CC from the skill description and it depends on his own energy gain on top of that so it can be good but it could also end up not working super well in actual practice as it has two checks for it to work in PvP.

sacred notch
#

Me and fellow Payden enjoyers gonna be eating

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Still deciding on what I want to call him

frozen crest
#

baeden

limpid horizon
#

Im rank 28 rn i think i need to remove ainz but for what comp

sacred notch
#

dang rank 28

sacred notch
limpid horizon
sacred notch
#

if ur ezio is invested then worth a shot

icy spruce
#

I’m most interested in if aBaden can form his own team that doesn’t canabalize existing teams too much, similar to what aThane does. That’ll probably decide which I pull.

sacred notch
#

the move is either abrut or abaden

low iron
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I'm worried about Baden fighting with Thane over Haelus because of his 1.2x buff/shields mechanic and want to carry. Might see Nev used for an extra energy battery+buffer+healer though, or Hodgkin as a buffer with the standard, and the CC+Enemy Damage reduction as they're both currently free for pickings.

polar dune
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then u dont need to worry bc he won't

low iron
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Right - well, I just mean in terms of how the buff sharing works. Clone Link affects Attributes - so both he and his clone might share the cube and increase the buff it gives depending on what it can share which could be considerable. And both would also share the shields.

polar dune
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still wouldn't take haelus away from athane

low iron
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Right, but that's what I mean is for Baden himself - in terms of his own potential in a vacuum. aThane is going to take that, but just in terms of his own probable wants himself, both could probably make considerable use of it depending on how it ends up working.

polar dune
#

thats nice

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still won't

low iron
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Yeah, I know - that's not what I meant. But sure.

polar dune
#

you edit the post like 5 times to clearly convey it

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there is a reason why AThane want it and Abaden "would nice to have"

low iron
#

Right - right.

polar dune
#

Could very well be wrong but we'll see when it hit global

low iron
#

I think it depends on how it sorts out, but I do believe Thane would take priority for it and agree with you.

polar dune
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there are vacancy of heroes that would do very well with him and I doubt the agency of ABaden grant breaking of AThane comp

low iron
#

Right.

obtuse mauve
#

What are the odds? 😂

frozen crest
#

where 11 and 99

#

big L

obtuse mauve
#

🥺

restive goblet
#

I’m sure he’ll be very very good at pvp at the least though

vague grotto
#

baden is busted

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thane/brutus tier

frozen crest
#

:(

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now i cant decide which

lime zinc
#

My GBs randomly doubled in WR today, they've been low this whole cycle

lime zinc
#

And they've already dropped over the last 2.5hrs homegalul

bright light
#

303 skriath with gb actually doing better for me

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not much better, but 54% wr areyouseirus

lime zinc
#

The only one on my GB team that isn't 30960 is my Alna

opal bone
#

I need a 6th team that isn't 0-2% win rate.

steady hill
#

same but 7th team

lime zinc
#

Same, for both

opal bone
#

At least 7th team only lasts a day.

hasty scaffold
lime zinc
#

Well I don't have 9F Orthros

hasty scaffold
#

Thanks

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At 7 teams, just when you thought it was safe to put back Grez in Alna GB....

gusty valley
#

This TS round, mine's everything between 22% and 78% over a set of 50 battles. Really unusually random...

opal bone
bright light
#

66% gb must be nice solisegasp

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but try Astar 5pull as 6th team

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and Anasta in burst

opal bone
#

Don't want to sabotage raku team, and my anasta is poverty for now.

bright light
#

Oh astar is poverty as well

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nvm

opal bone
#

One more copy and I'll t4 and si30 her.

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I'm just holding my resources until I see what I can build with Yen and Geralt

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Someone said 5p Geralt is decent so maybe I 209e60 him.

steady hill
opal bone
#

Unlucky. belovedzikis

steady hill
#

ainz comp sux

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abrutus ezio obv solves this

lime zinc
#

Wow, burst actually made it to 50%
Also I knew 5p would be complete dogshit but wanted to confirm it homegalul

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Might try KrenDV at 7 team as another 0% wr filler kHAHAsos

gloomy lichen
#

Ts reward buff is nice. I hope they do not merge region.

low iron
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They said they'd be adjusting regions so it could be better or worse - might depend on your region and overall investment levels

gloomy lichen
#

As long as my rank stay the same (t100) im happy

low iron
#

Also, playing around with some teams, this 5-pull's doing decently here for me this debuff as well - probably due to poison ticks and multi-hit attacks of Vurk. Also, switched in a jank Lucretia and she still seems to do okay - e60 Grez was pulling 40% wr in comparison. t33/r61

gusty valley
solemn sage
#

depends on how much the regions change

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My guess is absolute worst case, they switch to using LC regions

steady hill
#

ahhh fuck noo

solemn sage
#

which is double the size of current TS regions

gusty valley
#

Meaning you're pretty likely out unless you qualify/almost qualify for RO64.

solemn sage
#

if you're currently top 50 you'd be top 100 afterwards

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with some variance, I'm in R2 TS and would be merged with R1 which has a lot more big whales

gusty valley
opal bone
#

For newer servers, aka over this past year, you're even more screwed if you merge with a lower region.

low iron
#

Even if they aren't as balanced, it'll still be a lot more players and harder for people to push in. Especially in the higher regions - newer regions will probably get merged with older regions that will make it much harder for those compared to now.

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Yeah^

gusty valley
#

Guess we'll find out. Feels like TS will more or less be "all awakeneds or bust" anyway. (Especially if ABaden turns out to be his own PvP team, like AThane...)

opal bone
#

Even if they merge region 65 with 66 for example, 66 is extra screwed.

low iron
#

They increased the rewards, so I don't see them making it any easier for people.

solemn sage
#

zaph, audrae, tarnos, CRuke all pretty big now

twilit gulch
#

Actually if it's just LC regions

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I'll be safe

gusty valley
frozen crest
#

if they make regions ass im focusing cr lmao

twilit gulch
#

CR even more ass

twilit gulch
gusty valley
#

CR is just so EXTREMELY boooooring...

low iron
#

CR is - I sure hope you love Pets.

solemn sage
#

I'm currently just outside of top 20, new rewards I'd be happy with top 50

#

Weekly T4 chest is main thing I want

twilit gulch
#

T4 chest for t50 is pretty big tbh

gusty valley
low iron
#

For a lot of F2P - even getting t100 is pretty big for the extra 5 ToT Emblems every week.

gusty valley
#

But 10 TimeEmblems per two weeks, over time, will make a huge difference.

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I think f2p will have a very VERY hard time making t100 though.

solemn sage
#

yeah, it's significant increase to timegazer income

frozen crest
#

let's just hope for the not worst

gusty valley
low iron
#

It's also going to be very region-centric.

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Like if you're r60 and r60-65 get merged, you're probably fine while the other regions get screwed.

solemn sage
#

add in the changed CR rewards and it's basically doubling your free timegazer income if you're consistently top 100 TS/top10% CR

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the rich get richer

gusty valley
#

(Wish I was top 50% CR.... 🙂 )

frozen crest
#

and the poor get shitted on

gusty valley
solemn sage
#

One potentially good thing about bigger TS regions is less of the crazy variance

twilit gulch
#

Just don't be poor

frozen crest
#

finna sell kidney then

gusty valley
#

Better rich and healthy than sick and poor...

low iron
#

Isn't that always the case.

gusty valley
#

...and not THAT many seem to have them built...

solemn sage
#

Arty's using Alna CRuke

gusty valley
#

Alna, C&R, Athalia, Silas, Ferael? correct?

solemn sage
#

yea

#

They seem like a good 5th or 6th team hero

hasty scaffold
#

Top 1 in my region has Cruke. It prolly needs whale investment

#

Like all nowadays

solemn sage
#

and they were very good in the freezing round

gusty valley
gloomy lichen
#

If they merge likt that i guess im out of t100 for sure lol

opal bone
#

Better change regions so only the people who already have Aw heroes can get time gazers.

#

Makes sense. belovedzikis

vale imp
#

@hasty scaffold

#

New day brought funni number

gloomy lichen
#

Still it is better to focus on ts than cr imo

sacred notch
#

Imo if ur consistently top100> then focus cr

#

Possibly even consistent top2%

#

Actually nvm, 2% no timegazers

hasty scaffold
vale imp
civic sage
sacred notch
obtuse mauve
#

In the current buff, if Skriath can ult over multiple enemies, he starts chaining non stop. Maybe something to explore...

civic sage
#

Yes

sacred notch
#

Brutus is the #1 pick for first awk

civic sage
polar dune
#

much sadness

obtuse mauve
#

Every flaw is flawless. A flawed flaw is not a true flaw

low iron
#

The flaw is that they narrowly missed that nice number, but congratulations on the 1st place!

misty epoch
#

How did I even win this lmao

low iron
#

Yeah, they were going for LucyGB but they used Grez instead of Alna - and it looks like everyone got sweeped by aThane one by one as he targets lowest HP - which is probably Farael -> Athalia -> Lucretia at equal investment.

restive goblet
#

I also don’t think elder tree matters as much because of the bonus flat stats everyone gets until the last day

waxen oriole
misty epoch
#

Just copy formations people post here

#

And RC level is irrelevant for this mode

waxen oriole
#

Kay thanks

steady hill
storm moth
steady hill
#

y’all getting away with poverty heroes damn

#

i wish my region was that easy

storm moth
#

sounds like a skill issue tbh

steady hill
#

more like poverty issue

sacred notch
#

Do we know what made gb do so much better towards the end?

#

Hasn't it done pretty shite in the past?

low iron
#

Probably because more teams near the end widens the pool, so it adds more variance on win-rates but gives them a higher chance to match up against something that they can win against.
As opposed to smaller pools with more condensed and generally more meta teams where people slot in what they've actually invested into.

molten sparrow
#

What should I use for my 5th team?

bright light
#

that’s usually the burst team, raku LDV

granite mason
molten sparrow
granite mason
frozen crest
#

t21>t36 how i love 7 teams

#

hopefully i get in top50

lime zinc
#

Idk wtf to run for 6th and 7th ever

lapis moth
#

i'm shifting between 55-45, bad for my nerves lol

lime zinc
#

Only got to 2% for 1 day zaphtears

frozen crest
#

man whenever i drop ranks in t7 i wonder who the fuck went up in ranks during that time

#

like, how lol

twilit gulch
#

build for TS to maintain t20

lapis moth
# frozen crest like, how lol

probably people from older servers who had more time to build heroes so they have better options for 6 and 7 teams

steady hill
frozen crest
opal bone
#

I always fall off a lot last day on 7 teams. WAAAHsos

#

But this time it's worse because I'm in the 80s at end of round 1.

#

Also how come I never see any bullshit go teams in my match history.

#

I swear it's not even 1 bs team on average.

#

Meanwhile I run 2.

misty epoch
#

Probably you're behind, or just lots of spenders

storm moth
#

i have to run 3 bs lmao

#

well kinda

lapis moth
#

any suggestions to get daimon 5p to somewhat work

solemn sage
#

Rank 18, ready to drop out of top 20 in final exploration

storm moth
#

we get 50 more battles yes?

frozen crest
#

yes

lapis moth
#

which comp are you guys running for daimon 5 pull

storm moth
frozen crest
#

if 5 pull is hopeless you might want to put daimon in random bs instead

#

might net winrate

storm moth
#

idk in 7 teams my random bs is higher wr than lucy cycle

#

in 9 battles but whatever

lapis moth
storm moth
#

rosa

lapis moth
#

and is your 5p getting some wins

lapis moth
storm moth
frozen crest
#

wow

solemn sage
#

Put your scarlet frontline kids

frozen crest
#

oden>>>wolise confirmed

#

kekw

storm moth
hasty scaffold
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I'm glad this is the last day of TS, my tree is busted because of AE 💀

polar dune
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last 50 fights

quartz salmon
lapis moth
quartz salmon
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Hmm

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Cause I managed to get 25% on t7

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With Arthur Hodg Rosa Wolise Skriath

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So maybe try that elishrug

lapis moth
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are you using desira in cycle instead

storm moth
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wait wtf solise is good at L

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in cycle

wide wasp
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Will queen 5pull work better than a 20% team?

storm moth
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nah

steady hill
lapis moth
storm moth
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oh thats why it works

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im gonna quit if i get kicked out of t100

frozen crest
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pray that you get out of t100

storm moth
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tru

steady hill
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last 50 battles?

frozen crest
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yes

steady hill
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i hope my random bs gb team will carry

low iron
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I actually stayed at 29th - surprised I haven't dropped yet. badensweat

low iron
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Also, here are some weird teams, though this last 50-push is going to probably change a lot because variance - t29/r61:

misty epoch
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Interesting hero pool

sacred notch
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Queue raku saying "nice zikis"

frozen crest
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nice zikis

sacred notch
civic sage
low iron
sacred notch
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Hmm I guess we just have built different stuff or smth because I'm also VIP13

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Like my luc is 30960 and alaro is e+

low iron
frozen crest
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odd how vurk 5p gets more wr than most of the comps

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vurk new meta

low iron
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Probably just the multiple hits this debuff ramping up the damage to be actually something.

sacred notch
frozen crest
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dunno his skills so ill just assume poison is considered multiple hits

sacred notch
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And his ult is like crazy multi hits

low iron
sacred notch
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With that investment