#treasure-scramble

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bright light
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Zikis op belovedzikis

gusty valley
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Haven't had much luck with Zikis this round t b h, but perhaps I just put him in the wrong teams...

granite mason
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Leofric op

misty epoch
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Whales

hasty scaffold
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Too many niche heroes lol belovedzikis

bright light
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guide when pls, I’m still using same teams as last debuff badensweat

misty epoch
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I mean lots of people are posting their formations with WR

granite mason
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Show me a battle with vurk 309e60 plshappytwins

misty epoch
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Just check which teams you can put together and try it out

gusty valley
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(Mine included. Performing horribly. So no offence!)

misty epoch
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We're all kinda on the same boat, new debuff

bright light
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Only whales show their teams xd

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usual TS teams getting ~50 wr for me so not that bad

gusty valley
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Looking whale? There's even a Nemora in there for crying out loud! 😄

misty epoch
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Changed E+ Ezizh for Haelus in Luc cycle and dropped 10% wr lmao

solemn sage
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Not many have zikis built and even fewer have leofric

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Even whales

gusty valley
misty epoch
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Yea I figured but thought it would still be better than E+ Ezizh, especially when he's 309e60 but guess not...

bright light
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use both

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luc cycle with healus is 46% for me

gusty valley
gusty valley
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Though that MIGHT have been some bad rng/pairing aswell.

misty epoch
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I had 45% with Luc Twins Desira Rowan Ezizh

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Now 34 with Haelus instead of Ezizh

frozen crest
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44% for me ^

bright light
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it’s probably bcs my region is new

misty epoch
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I am in 64, you?

bright light
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68

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~t30 so chilling, I don’t think I can get into t20 this debuff

low iron
granite mason
low iron
gusty valley
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Yup. It's a hard team to just copy&use... 😄

low iron
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Right.

gusty valley
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Or, well, it's easy enough. But my version probably wouldn't get quite the same results. 🙂

neat rose
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its worth to use AThane on mystic+ and si30?

sage badger
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maybe on 5-6 teams

still heron
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Long time no see

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Im at 5 teams

sage badger
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lol

solemn sage
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Silas with AThane doing much better, and doesn't really hurt alna team much

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Other teams kinda bad though

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Just E60'd framton finally, will see how much that helps

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but baba yaga ain't it for dim team

muted river
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My random bs from last season still works lol, with desira replaced by talene

gusty valley
bright light
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Finally a 3rd team with +50 wr
my burst sucks tho idk how to fix it

vale imp
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My burst has sucked this buff no matter what I do

misty epoch
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That Alna GB team is cracked lol wth, 90%

steady hill
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zol variant better than kren but decent 2%

shell jungle
smoky obsidian
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What's the thesku comp in TS with LDV?

frozen crest
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raku comp but thesku for someone

lime zinc
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Extra comps kinda going well (but I dropped from 2% down to 6% lol)

lime zinc
frozen crest
solemn sage
hasty scaffold
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DIS WONT LAST JUST ENJOYING FOR NOW belovedzikis

gusty valley
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@solemn sage from what I can tell, luc-cycle does significantly better with mortas instead of Desira. (My Desira isn't engraved though...)

still heron
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Skylark newest Leviathan khasosrun

hasty scaffold
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No am confirmed banana

vale imp
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Look what happens when I leave you

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R69 has a f2p vegan as #1

frozen crest
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said f2p was gonna quit

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but now he's rampaging

vale imp
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Tbh when we were in the same region we were lucky to be t10

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Now he's in 1 in r69 and I'm in 4 in r71 lol

frozen crest
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i feel bad for people in 70

vale imp
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they drew the short straw fr

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The worst of the krakens went there

still heron
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Not bad

quaint isle
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Team 4 & 5 are significantly worse. Not sure if luc cycle is better than that Scarlett team

vale imp
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That doesn't look bad for burst this buff actually

quaint isle
gusty valley
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I'm totally amazed by this debuff. Last two rounds I have had one team (different ones) that did 3% resp 6% WR, and I'm still top50. When that happens, you know the struggle is real! 🙂

lime zinc
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Luc cycle is doing way better than Scarlet comp for me

solemn sage
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Just noticed I did that scramble round with E59 framton still

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I bought cores from event shop and then didn't spend them

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Guess I'll get a true A/B comparison of how big his E60 is

solemn sage
gusty valley
solemn sage
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Yeah she's been great in other teams

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just trying some shufflings

swift raft
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Wellp, engraving spree (E60 grez/oden, e30 joa) before this season has certainly paid off considerably

storm moth
swift raft
steady hill
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gosh i love your regions

swift raft
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Same lmao, I have to put in 0 effort

storm moth
steady hill
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no

storm moth
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ym

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then

swift raft
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My server separately is even better, there is no whales left. First in arena, 4th in LCT

frozen crest
frozen crest
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belovedzikis 👍

steady hill
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nah thrash codes

swift raft
still heron
steady hill
storm moth
frozen crest
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can you show t4 t5 wr? also what rank

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mr thenewelite

steady hill
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dumb ass joined a 2020 server but i started playing like june 2021

still heron
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Oh that makes sense

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Im region 58

storm moth
frozen crest
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cuz

swift raft
steady hill
swift raft
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Haven't bothered changing teams since last time, trash wr but have been carried by first 3

frozen crest
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interesting r5....

steady hill
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you just reroll and win kHAHAsos

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wow

frozen crest
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im impressed that it got 22%

still heron
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Random bullshyt go

steady hill
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y’all getting easy ranks with that

swift raft
frozen crest
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i think t50 is possible tho

storm moth
frozen crest
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with more serious teams

swift raft
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4/5 is whatever random crap I had left over 3 TS seasons ago that I haven't changed LOL

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Its been hilarious to me that I've been t100 twice and 0.4% once with it

still heron
steady hill
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4% dont mind atalene still outperforms than my E ezizh

swift raft
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The awsolise flex

still heron
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Kraken alert

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The flex flex

swift raft
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Lmao

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Just went thru leaderboard and that mega whale is the only one, by 10 its dolphins at best

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1/2 are bnb

hasty scaffold
frozen crest
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nooo

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have a proper goodbye at least, if that happens

storm moth
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and giveaway your account

frozen crest
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something about it being linked to his main email

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and we would be able to see his history

storm moth
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smh

hasty scaffold
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Gib account sweepstakes tiduslaugh

wide wasp
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This debuff fkin sucks

gusty valley
# wide wasp This debuff fkin sucks

I don't know, I'm kind of starting to like it, in a weird kind of way. I mean, the debuffs are obviously meant to shake the meta, and for once it's kind of succeded. 🙂

storm moth
gusty valley
# storm moth new meta = fuck new players ngl

Well, I guess that's one way to see it. O t o h, older players on older servers tend to need more built heroes, so it's not like everybody has every hero built to useable level anyway.

storm moth
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yeah thats also true

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so just fuck everyone kHAHAsos

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unless kraken

gusty valley
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You could also argue that it's a way for ppl hanging here, testing stuff, sharing ideas, reading skills and thinking to perform way above their hero rooster...

wide wasp
gusty valley
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Fine. It sucks then. 🤷🏻‍♂️ 😎

gusty valley
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Mine has 0% currently... 🙂

wide wasp
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Exactly my point

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GB Team is doing realy good tho

gusty valley
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Thing is, EVERYBODYS 5:th team has <10% winrate, atleast it seems like it from the leaderboard.

wide wasp
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You see

gusty valley
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Yeah. But then it doesn't really matter. All you need to do is find the small percentages, to perform way better than average.

lime zinc
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Tbf f2p/newer people will always have weak teams from 5 onwards.

wide wasp
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True.. But this is 500x worse

storm moth
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even whales got fucked with this ae homegalul

shell jungle
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look at arkinz tidussnout

storm moth
gusty valley
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Testing a scarlet variant.

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25 battles in, it could have been better honestly.

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🤷🏻‍♂️ 😄

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Going back to zikis builds. Atleast he's cool!

storm moth
quaint isle
gusty valley
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(Or when your E60-E80 team loses to the mirror with E30 max...)

quaint isle
gusty valley
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Yes, randomness is kind of real. My exact same Ainz-Dim comp has been 70:ish% all the time. Now currently, it's at 44%. But, again, might just be a bit of randomness + matchups. 25 fights is a statistically speaking really small samplesize after all.

solemn sage
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I've noticed my winrates are always lower in the x800-x999 prestige ranges

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My hunch is that as the biggest whales move to 6 teams, the rank 5-15 whales get matched with lower ranks instead

quaint isle
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I do see getting match with top 100 even I only at 4% at that time

storm moth
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what do you guys use with scarlet

obtuse mauve
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The matchup depends on your prestige, not ranking

ember harbor
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Probably a FAQ, but besides 5 pull team and a Mauler invade team, what other ways can we beat this challenge at the top area? Any help, thanks. 🙂

storm moth
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@civic sage show teams skriathderp

gusty valley
# obtuse mauve The matchup depends on your prestige, not ranking

Yeah. It would be pretty interesting to know how the matchmaking works. I too guess it's within a range of prestige somehow. At first I thought it was within your division, but I don't think that's correct, I'm pretty sure, when in the x900 range, I have been matched against opponents in the next division (and in the x100 range I've been fighting some teams from a lower division).

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So, somehow, within a range of prestige, kind of makes sense.

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(Then what's the point of the three different paths is beyond me. You can randomly, perhaps, not have to fight the server whales until highest division, if you're lucky and select a path they don't...)

sacred notch
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Haven't tried at all, some how in 39th

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R62

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My suggestion is get better

low iron
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I just always choose the same path each time and seem to consistently face the same people. I would guess most people stay on the same path they usually take unless they did really badly before or something and are hoping a different path would be easier.

sleek gull
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Anybody have any ideas for 6 and 7 team that uses less used heroes?

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My current 5 team. I do not have awakened Brutus or thane

frozen crest
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i use 5p

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but it's at 0%

sleek gull
indigo epoch
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Why not? Could be worse.

obtuse mauve
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Yeah... Two 0% teams would be worse, and it still can be worse than that...

frozen crest
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man i wish i stay in t50

gloomy lichen
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this ts is a messed. it's tough with only 2 good teams

pastel kiln
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😂😂😂

icy spruce
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yea not a fan of this one so far tbh. same rank as the others but it's kinda lame only having two teams go positive by now

frozen crest
gloomy lichen
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tbf that's a weird looking 5p

frozen crest
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i had no other units

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so random bullshit go

storm moth
frozen crest
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bouncing between 25-35

storm moth
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wtf your region is that easy now?

frozen crest
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yes

pastel kiln
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r69? WAAAHsos

storm moth
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yes

lime zinc
frozen crest
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region diff sure is a thing 😔

lime zinc
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Region diff makes me feel bad for being so weak for how old my acc is kHAHAsos

gloomy lichen
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True. My scarlet comp is at only 25%. My random bs does better around 35%. Still drop to 2%

gloomy lichen
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Works better than expected

gusty valley
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Does anybody know? Is Zolrath and Talene/ATalene a nonbo? Does Talene prevent Zolrath from being the last one to die, even in fireball state, due to still being "alive"? I think so, but I'm not sure...

livid mica
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no

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if talene is dead while zol is close to dying

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he resets the fights

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talene is dead while in the pasive form

gusty valley
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The "odd" interaction with Talene in fireball form, is that she seems to count as alive for Kelthur:s spirit form. WIth Kelthur dead but in spirirt, and Talene dying and going into fireball, the fight still continues despite all heroes being "dead".

lime zinc
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It can also break for Flora but I've only seen it for the AI (where Flora won't come down until after Talene dies after rez)

solemn sage
wide wasp
quaint isle
lime zinc
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Only remembered to fix my 6 team setup 15mins before scramble badensweat

gloomy lichen
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R55

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t100

lime zinc
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48 points off t100 rn elethathink

sacred notch
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Currently 59th

dusk tundra
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2% region 10

limpid lava
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6th team works somehow I guess

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r4 82nd btw if it matters

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But I'll very likely fall to 2%

frozen crest
sacred notch
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Wtf how that high with a 6% winrate team

frozen crest
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idk lol, it's weird

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if i still get high in 7 teams then it only means this region is very fucked up

sacred notch
solemn sage
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talene

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probably not

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desira might work

sweet bobcat
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I am sure that's what 99% of us are doing

lime zinc
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Dropped down to 6% ulricry

proven vault
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Hey ! I haven't really paid attention to treasure scramble yet, I've just been throwing random teams in there and sitting around 40%. I'd like to climb to get some more tasty rewards. So if you have any tips on which team I should run it would help a lot !

frozen crest
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sheesh 40%? what reg by the way

gusty valley
proven vault
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Region 6

gusty valley
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Desira or Talene seem to work OK. Not as good though, but I think the total is better.

quaint isle
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If you’re lazy and don’t want to change too often. Just use common comps like Ainz, Alna GB, Burst, Cycle

dusk tundra
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Ss

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S

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Ssss

proven vault
frozen crest
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sheeesh

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a fatherless loser

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lmao banned

proven vault
frozen crest
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higher usually

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because higher region means newer

quaint isle
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Region is based on server

frozen crest
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u can see my comps when scrolling above, complete bullshit yet t50

proven vault
quaint isle
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You’re in R6 which is a pretty old one. So with your heroes box, it’s tough to get high rank

proven vault
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I’ll try to copy comps shared above, it will much likely improve my score at least by a bit

lime zinc
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Tfw 5th and 6th are 20% and 16% respectively

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*Scarlet and Stall 5th and 6th

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At 30 battles GB was at 100% lol

wide wasp
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This good? I dont have many heroes..

frozen crest
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do raku on another team

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net winrate would probably be higher

frozen crest
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not gonna bother with 5p

misty epoch
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t29 r64

solemn sage
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Desira in GBs not so hot

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back to talene

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Trez cycle is best cycle version I've tried

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And I'm just gonna keep throwing stuff at team 5 to see what sticks

hasty scaffold
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I’ve given up on this debuff. I’m just putting teams and hoping it’ll be over soon elishrug

frozen crest
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yeah. what a pain

low iron
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Well, for what it counts, here is a continuation of team experiments for anyone curious:

frozen crest
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belovedzikis 👍

fading osprey
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These mauler team are hot

low iron
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Dropped to 57th place - probably because Team 5 and 6 are super scuff - region 61.

quaint isle
low iron
sage badger
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i’ve been flopping back and forth between top 70 and top 2%, just luck of matches (region 12)

gusty valley
# solemn sage Desira in GBs not so hot

Worked better for me, but I run GB with Athalia, so that might make quite a bit of difference. Just tested to shift Athalia out aswell, and that seems like it was a bad idea. GB does significantly worse, and Athalia don’t seem to make much of an impact in weak teams…

gusty valley
solemn sage
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Think talene GBs should do alright though

gusty valley
gusty valley
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(It can probably vary slightly between regions aswell.)

solemn sage
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It beats standard GBs

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don't think it would without athalia

sage badger
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hey @solemn sage anasta 30960 next? or should i start building athalia now?

solemn sage
gusty valley
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Probably not. Most ”standard” ABrutus teams just get their butts kicked by GB in this debuff, atleast in r14.

solemn sage
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Talene GBs can actually beat a fairly strong dim team

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Neat

sage badger
solemn sage
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CR's kinda doomed for non-whales at this point so I'd probably do athalia yea

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Or just do both

gusty valley
solemn sage
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And rift if doing cele, need a big hero pool for that though

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and AThane

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Mage will be better for majority of players

sage badger
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i have athane 🙈🙈 and abrutus

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ig athalia it is 🙂 but i’ll wait to see if this new wilder is broken before spending diamonds 🙂

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god i hate that when u type “:)” it gives u that slight smile

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feels so passive aggressive

misty epoch
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🙂

sage badger
solemn sage
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New wilder probably gonna be great in multiple modes

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as a grez support

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or abaden/asolise support if you have them

sage badger
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yeah exactly, i only have L swolelise, but only about 200 time cards saved up…

quartz salmon
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my teams are pretty much the exact same as last debuff and im t96 for some reason

gusty valley
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Yeah, it’s strange. Feels like, now when more ppl are reaching 6 teams, they are in general, performing even worse. Even though my messabout with GB has lowered my averall winrate, I’m now climbing in rank…

misty epoch
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Same for me, from t50~ to t31 now, didn't change a single thing

solemn sage
gusty valley
# solemn sage Oops

Had a few of those. Doin’ great at identifying what’s not workkng. 😄

solemn sage
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First 4 doing great though

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And luc cycle doing its typical 40%

gusty valley
solemn sage
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The damage decrease and energy decrease removes a lot of RNG

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So the good teams just never lose to the random teams

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And a truly bad team will actually get 0%, normally they'd RNG a few wins at least

sage badger
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here’s where i am rn, just outside top 100

quartz salmon
tall osprey
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Which 3-4 teams would be good? Just good this mode.

lime zinc
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Fell from just short of top 100 to 8% zaphtears

frozen crest
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im dropping out of t50 gorvOHHH

sacred notch
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I've been hovering around t60

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Made it as high as 39th that one day

low iron
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Yeah, I got back down to below t50 but I expect to get slammed at 7 teams this TS.

lime zinc
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Fell so far that my WR shot up kHAHAsos

gusty valley
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Final day will be rough. Expect two teams to be low single digit winrates. O t o h, sometimes the added bullshit makes the slightly less bullshit more viable…

bright light
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I actually jumped from 25 to 22 after 7 teams, maybe this is finally the time I get t20 rakuhmm

frozen crest
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:prayge:
i somehow increased in rank after team 7 too, but ranked horribly on the last few rounds of team 6

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oh wait maybe it's because we can fight anyone not in our path

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and other paths are easier

misty epoch
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Tried new teams dropped from t27 to t65 RIP

gusty valley
quaint isle
gusty valley
frozen crest
hasty scaffold
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You're doing much better than 2 other whales in my server who have A Thane and A Brutus tiduslaugh

frozen crest
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kekw

hasty scaffold
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They don't have your big brain kelthurbigbrain

frozen crest
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legit sometimes i dont know the fuck these people are doing with their woke heroes when i check history

hasty scaffold
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Some don't really know much about TS mechanics really and maximizing the heores they have

frozen crest
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if only i can have their accounts

red apex
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F2p plankton top 2% r14 for reference

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I found pairing desira with Scarlett is much better for my acc. She died too fast, so having some kind of healing or protection is better than giving her more haste

bright light
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pippoggies please just end TS rn

hasty scaffold
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Stop the count!

bright light
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badensweat this would be my first t20, wutus carried me

frozen crest
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pogg

hasty scaffold
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I’m doing Geez cycle wish me luck homegalul

frozen crest
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goodluck sir banana

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who knows, maybe it would be meta

hasty scaffold
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As you can tell I kinda given up

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It’s rewards time too lol

frozen crest
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wait are there any difference from the top 1 reward and top20?

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only title yeah?

hasty scaffold
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Mostly the the medal colour cuz it’s kinda flex if you have it

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It’s the same number of SGs

frozen crest
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ah i see

hasty scaffold
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Oops top 10 and top 1 difference is just the medal colour

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Top 20 is different my bad

frozen crest
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oooo

opal bone
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Might finish outside t100 for first time, forgot to change teams. belovedzikis

low iron
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Well, at least there's still an hour and a half or so for the final push no?

polar dune
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better to say top 1 then having an extra 0

gusty valley
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Yeah. Two teams at 6% each atm. Probably gonna finish by dropping out of t50…

quaint isle
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A pretty bad cycle so far. Having only 1 cycle of 7 teams at the end is kind of tough as you have no chance of optimism your teams

solemn sage
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idk what's happening this round

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I switched from a 0% team 7 to a 25%

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all my other teams unchanged

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and yet I've dropped from 31 to 37

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winrates on other teams are all good too

opal bone
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Meanwhile dummies on my server are e30ing and SI30ing every unit in their lct teams, I imagine it's the same for people on every server.

quaint isle
lime zinc
still heron
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When do we get rewards?

storm moth
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never

still heron
storm moth
restive goblet
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This coming reset I think

misty epoch
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I got rewards already

still heron
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Hopefully its next reset

misty epoch
restive goblet
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98th place with 1 fight left

misty epoch
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F

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t64

cold ridge
solemn sage
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Rank 40, which is weird because all my winrates were equal or better to when I was rank 31 this morning

gusty valley
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Yeah, dropped to rank 54. 😦

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Stall wasn't great, and random bullshit sucked. 😄

quartz salmon
gusty valley
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(honestly, a bit surprised about the drop. Overall winrate was 59%. Seems some ppl in r14 figured out how to perform in this debuff...)

gusty valley
quartz salmon
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his quite good tho

gusty valley
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Yes. He's very good.

quartz salmon
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too busy getting that juicy thane too :))

gusty valley
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Yeah, he took some resources...

quartz salmon
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are you plannign on doing them for better wr ? or nah

solemn sage
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next round of this debuff I'll have asolise at least M

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maybe that'll help

quartz salmon
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noice

solemn sage
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my opponents will probably have abaden though

gusty valley
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I could have e30:ed oden, but I think it's pretty pointless. His E60 is insane...

quartz salmon
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yeah forsure

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e41 for raku is nice too

gusty valley
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Or, rather, how good.

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Should probably build Brutus. But don't like Brutus at all. The character that is. He's obviously very good. But, really don't feel like it...

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O t o h. ASolise seems really really good aswell. So it's a tossup between her and ABaden (if that's who it'll be in the end). Guess we'll see...

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But in this debuff, I think neither ABrutus or ASolise did exceptionally. They seemed OK at best.

rare grove
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@still heron best ts I got so far, t31

steady hill
sage badger
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lol tell me about it

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15 off of top 100 is def due to rng

opal bone
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Copium. belovedzikis

little folio
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Finish 11th region 2

sage badger
sage badger
still heron
little folio
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@sage badger whats are they all at currently? And what is your current goal ? Aiming for TS better scores?

rare grove
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Somni help me bigtime, thanks @cold ridge

twilit gulch
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Wow that 1st place isn't even close

still heron
still heron
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Somni is one of the smartest f2p Players

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Hands down

solemn sage
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AThane does fine without him (estrilda sonja haelus athane hendrik)

still heron
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Why not ?

solemn sage
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Zaph is more important for burst team than audrae I think, but they're both good

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plus orthros is store hero so you'll get him eventually

still heron
solemn sage
#

replaceable in pvp and CR is a doomed mode anyways

#

Zol and athalia can be worth gazing because they're much harder to replace

still heron
#

Hmmm interesting

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Ppl told me to gaze Orthros

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And get Athalia from shop

solemn sage
#

Used to be CR was king and pvp was only for whales

#

So that was reasonable advice

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but with TS that's kinda flipped

still heron
#

Im talking about less then a month

solemn sage
#

and pets have made good CR ranking impossible for f2p/low spenders

still heron
#

Im top 10% in cr

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Rn

solemn sage
#

so am I

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But every cycle my rank is just getting lower and lower

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despite me having every meta hero

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top 200 damage is so ridiculously high because of pets that the number of people in legend keeps getting smaller

still heron
#

Thats strange m rank is going up

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Who would u gaze or get from store ?

solemn sage
#

I'd probably gaze+store athalia

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But zaph is also a good option

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or wait and see how many places CRuke finds a use

still heron
#

So many options zaphtears

solemn sage
#

you've got all the critical heroes so it's a lot more subjective

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I guess 4th option would be ascending mehira if you like to hardpush

still heron
#

Im power capped anyways so shes out

shell jungle
still heron
shell jungle
#

eh i’d do zaph/atha over orthros

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but just cause idc for cr

solemn sage
#

I think there's a good chance of CRuke becoming CR meta in torne teams

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plus is already good in pvp

still heron
frozen crest
#

top 56 notsureiferael

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fuck this

#

woke up 2 mins past reset and i cant even check my wrs

sacred notch
#

Season is over

muted cloak
#

Was that it?

#

Is this the only rewards?

solemn sage
#

Gets a lot better at higher ranks

sacred notch
sage badger
#

working on 309e60 for athalia rn

little folio
#

Tbh Zaph probably your best bet orothos looks like you can start getting him from shop since your others from the shop are all ascended

sage badger
#

zaph > audrea/Atalene A*/moreal? in ur opinion? @little folio

little folio
#

@sage badger sorry get that star for A.talene so you can engrave her then zaph > audrea then reassess

sage badger
little folio
#

Yup the amount of e60s needed is alot

sage badger
lime zinc
sacred notch
#

Severe skill issue detected

frozen crest
#

without people like him the people in 70% wouldnt exist

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give him a medal

lime zinc
#

Ended up about the same ranking as last TS lol, which was also bad but hey at least it's not worse than 6%

muted cloak
#

My first time doing treasure scramble

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Also those team I'm using is pre-set i didn't change a thing

lime zinc
#

The default teams are horrible (pretty much just random), so you probably should set some

muted cloak
#

Yeah next time

gusty valley
# little folio Tbh Zaph probably your best bet orothos looks like you can start getting him fro...

I'm kind of wondering this aswell. Don't haev Zaph (or Audrae) built. Was planning to build them next, but I'm staring to wonder how viable burst is. Feels like pretty much all the top PvP teams have fallen off a cliff in the awakened meta. Ainz is out due to ABrutus or ASolise stealing the dim shell, AlnaGB is still sort of viable. Cycle going to, i m h o, much worse scarlet variation due to Haelus getting stolen by AThane and then Luc going to AlnaGB since that's mostly stronger than Grez-variant. Burst still have their heroes left intact, but as far as I can tell, Zaph and Audrae are pretty much only good in burst, not that many alternate uses for them. (Or perhaps there will be, they are obviously strong PvP heroes...)

lime zinc
#

You'd still use burst and ainz if you didn't have a lot of AWs

gusty valley
#

Yes, but both AlnaGB and AThane are better against Ainz for me. (misread. thought you said burst AGAINST ainz)

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(And the number of Ainz comps in LCT/LC and top100 TS are diminishing rapidly...)

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(Except for this debuff, where Ainz was very strong. But then burst isn't an alternative anyway.)

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I'm not saying I'm right. I'm putting a theory out there and asking ppls oppinions.

little folio
#

Well the burst team concept will always be there but like how audrae is a part of it not it will always evolve who knows maybe the GB awaken will replace audrae in this formation with building all comps always remember supports are much more stable and last longer then the carries

lime zinc
#

You'd just run all 4

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It's probably better to run AwThane in burst or the LB comp because it'd improve your overall WR more

gusty valley
lime zinc
#

It's still pretty standard

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TS needs 7 teams afterall

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Doesn't matter if it's not a top 5 team if it still makes the cut for top 7

gusty valley
#

Might be wise to still build Zaph, but hold out a bit on Audrae...

lime zinc
#

And even if it isn't a top 7 team, it's probably easier to acquire than a full AW lineup

gusty valley
#

Zaph:s dive+stun will probably always be useful somewhere...

gusty valley
#

No way to keep up on the time emblems, regardless of monthly card.

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2/day is still waaaay below what's needed.

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3-team towers is pretty much a wall for free time emblems there aswell.

little folio
gusty valley
#

Still need furniture for him anyway, so waiting for that, but keeping him in wishlist I think.

#

Pointless to build before having the resources to get them to useable state.

little folio
#

Yeah just hoard till you can go all in on a hero

wide wasp
#

Is new debuff as fucked as last one?

sacred notch
#

New debuff?

misty epoch
lime zinc
#

Should just be another in the cycle

muted cloak
#

What should i choose?

sacred notch
#

Pick your favorite color (it doesn't matter which path you chose really)

hasty scaffold
#

Ainz bad right? Can’t remember now

frozen crest
#

@hasty scaffold yo, what did u take last time and what will you take now?

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i dont want to go against you

sacred notch
#

My first 2 teams are scar burst and gb

hasty scaffold
#

Don’t tell anyone. I took green

frozen crest
#

last time also green yeah?

hasty scaffold
#

Yes I’m a creature of habit

frozen crest
#

great thanks

hasty scaffold
#

Please any whale in 69 avoid me please lels

lime zinc
#

Is this the multi-hit buff?

sacred notch
#

I believe so, since I have scar burst as one of my first 2 set teams

frozen crest
#

yeah it is

sacred notch
#

Yay or nay?

lime zinc
#

In my experience, Ainz still did better than budget burst at 4team

#

Going to retry burst at 4 team myself though, because I have Zaph now

frozen crest
#

team 3 yall just split gb and luc yeah?

lime zinc
#

Yeah, for people that don't have AW teams

sacred notch
#

Ye

frozen crest
#

ic

lime zinc
#

This buff is the best debuff for luc cycle anyway

frozen crest
#

lemme overdose on hopium and pray to reach t50 this season

sacred notch
#

Hit 55th recently, hoping to continue the trend

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Last two seasons I've been t100

lime zinc
#

I'm just aiming for <1% lol

hasty scaffold
frozen crest
#

yeah was top30 before last 50 battles

#

woke up 2 mins late to reset, cant check winrates, and got 56 tidussnout

#

i dont understand why lilith doesnt allow us to view winrates after season

#

it's a sunday, who would wake up so early to check winrates

hasty scaffold
#

Oooft that sucks

twilit gulch
#

what u guys running

hasty scaffold
#

We have a new Kraken in 69 btw. Suddenly has a team of e80s . Must have won the lottery or something

twilit gulch
#

loool

frozen crest
#

oh? didnt notice that. who is it

hasty scaffold
#

The number 4. I swear he didn’t have that roster before. E80s overnight

frozen crest
#

ohh

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what a nice tree he has

simple sentinel
#

LOL

twilit gulch
#

yea that tree lol

frozen crest
#

aight counting on you to beat that kraken's ass

simple sentinel
#

This guy has been terrorizing my server since i started.

sacred notch
#

This guy has been tearing it up in r62 since I started (make sure to follow btw)

granite mason
hasty scaffold
#

Like and subscribe also?

granite mason
#

wut ur yt channel

sacred notch
#

Nah, this is twitter

#

Just follow

frozen crest
#

smash the like button

sacred notch
#

And hit the noti bell

simple sentinel
#

Is there a a donation button?

kindred ravine
#

I am the best at Treasure Scramble OK

earnest phoenix
#

If I were hypothetically running budged burst and had a zaphrael that was M+ SI 30, would he be worth trying out? I'm under the impression his furniture is sort of a big deal.

frozen crest
#

wont know until you try and fall 50 ranks elishrug

frigid tapir
#

is luc cycle worth w mythic haelus and epic twins or nah

dawn tinsel
#

Any “standard” team suggestions for 2 teams, 3 teams, and 4 teams?

frozen crest
#

do alna luc on 2 teams

sacred notch
#

@molten sparrow @still heron don't forget TS teams

dawn tinsel
frozen crest
#

5th team i think

dawn tinsel
#

Got it. Few more questions:

  1. Is Scar still good with just 3f?
  2. Good substitute for Haelus in the cycle comp?
molten sparrow
sacred notch
#

@dusk tundra what u hit last TS?

molten sparrow
#

Also, does the path I choose matter?

sacred notch
#

No

frozen crest
sage badger
#

what would whale 2-3 team comps look like for this one again? idr

dawn tinsel
granite mason
#

First 2 team is mishka scarlet and alna athane right

sage badger
#

second one sounds right for sure but idr about team 1

frozen crest
dawn tinsel
# frozen crest do alna luc on 2 teams

Actually not sure if this meant have “Alna GB Luc as one team, and Scarlet burst as second team in the beginning, then split Alna-GB and Cycle Luc when you get to 3 teams”; or “first two teams = Alna-GB & Cycle-Luc”.

frozen crest
#

1st one

dawn tinsel
frozen crest
#

grez

sacred notch
#

Grez

dawn tinsel
#

Oh okay - and Alna Luc front, or still Alna Oden?

sacred notch
#

Alna luc

frozen crest
sacred notch
#

Tbh I didn't see much change in oden front but maybe I just wasn't paying attention

dawn tinsel
frozen crest
#

teams vary per region so eh

sacred notch
#

No, we feed you to the wolves

#

Drip or drown

granite mason
sacred notch
#

Glow up or blow up

granite mason
#

guide pinned pls

sacred notch
#

Okay, make one. We pin

granite mason
#

Official guide for TS

Copy the top formation, create ur own team if u dont have any heroes or investment needed

#

pin

dawn tinsel
#

😅😅

frozen crest
#

no cs online unfortunately

granite mason
frozen crest
#

whats that supposed to mean

storm moth
#

that she wasnt that good

#

what teams do you guys start

molten sparrow
#

So, what should my teams be for treasure scramble. That's the main reason I never play it. I don't know what to do

sacred notch
#

Kadezh or someone will get to you with an answer when possible

frozen crest
#

@opaque nexus

opaque nexus
storm moth
bright light
#

Alna luc and scarlet

storm moth
#

ty

granite mason
#

scarlet mishka and alna luc for f2p

#

athane bettersmug_dolly

restive goblet
#

Does ABrutus do better in alna than Luc at 2 teams?

pastel kiln
#

better choice?

simple sentinel
civic sage
sacred notch
molten sparrow
sacred notch
#

No alna for you, she's not 9f

#

Ig u could experiment since really early teams don't matter too much

civic sage
icy surge
#

A strong desira is better than alna with gbs

molten sparrow
#

I don't have desira built

icy surge
#

At least gbs vs gbs

misty epoch
sacred notch
#

203 min

sage badger
#

302e30 athalia worth running over 30960 oden?

sacred notch
#

Ehh I'd say no, aren't her big breakpoints 9f and e60 anyway?

sage badger
#

i think 303e30 is minimum but

#

i’m like 7 days away from e60

hasty scaffold
#

If you’re top 100 in an older region I wouldn’t especially at 2 teams

#

However first day doesn’t matter so you can experiment

granite mason
sage badger
#

yeahhh i flip between top 100 and top2% in region 12

#

this last one i was like 10 points off of top 100 iirc lol

granite mason
#

me from top 10% to top 2%LOLfric

#

testing in the first day is fun

sage badger
#

honestly don’t u think ezio would be better than Ainz due to debuff and ezios eagle vision ult?

granite mason
sage badger
#

it was a question not a statement ☹️☹️

#

i’m a pvp newb

granite mason
#

ezio better

sage badger
#

ok thought so

#

i’m honestly at the point where i might start taking some poe coins…

#

i’m missing a lot of furn i need

granite mason
#

poe hoe time

sage badger
#

fr missing a lot 😦

#

hen 3f for whane comp

icy surge
#

Just play the last teams, easy life WAAAHsos

#

I haven't changed my teams for a month now WAAAHsos

sage badger
#

i’ve been building key heros so the comps change 😦 abrutus, whane, athalia, :((((

granite mason
#

i dont have abrutus so im using mishka scarlet with zol

icy surge
#

Eh, it will always change

granite mason
#

u could use that for ur 3rd team

sage badger
#

yea that was the plan i think

icy surge
#

The buff it's made specially for this

sage badger
#

either that or lucy cycle

lapis moth
#

Did you guys try different combinations for alna gb with scarlet for 2 and 3 teams? Wondering which might be optimal

#

Also what does athane need to start seeing good results?

sacred notch
#

30960

lapis moth
#

😬

granite mason
sage badger
#

yeahhhhh he’s whane for a reason 🤪🤪

sacred notch
#

F2p/low spenders when they realized they were never going to win

frozen crest
sage badger
storm moth
granite mason
storm moth
sage badger
#

yeah im poe broke 😔

storm moth
#

same

lapis moth
sage badger
#

alna lucy oden ferral silas

#

then like scarlet burst w
zol mishka lyca scarlet lorsan

#

then for 3 team, take lucy from GB, and put her in cycle if u have it

sacred notch
#

Otherwise, suffer

lapis moth
#

You don't use dims until 4 teams than?

sage badger
#

ainz isn’t good in this debuff

#

if u have whutus then i’m using him at 2 teams

lapis moth
#

Oh wow, good thing I asked thanks

#

Abrutus only L

sage badger
#

ye np, if u read the debuff it helps a little, but sometimes it’s still wonky

granite mason
#

dont forget to put astar in ur team

#

she is crazy good

sage badger
granite mason
sage badger
#

ah over lorsan gotcha

sacred notch
#

Mines in zolrath wilder burst shenanigans

sage badger
#

this my 2-4 team setup…

sacred notch
#

Really? Astar over raine?

sage badger
#

i think it makes sense

#

astar does more multihits and i feel is more “bursty” maybe

frozen crest
lapis moth
#

would you still use it at E+

sage badger
#

who

frozen crest
#

what

lapis moth
#

astar

sacred notch
#

Definitely not e+ Astar

frozen crest
#

no

sage badger
#

no

#

she needs si30 9/9

#

otherwise she tickles

lapis moth
#

ok

granite mason
#

astar needs 303 to be useful

lapis moth
sage badger
#

last 7 teams meaning last debuff or last volcano round?

frozen crest
#

looks like last debuff

lapis moth
sage badger
#

but for 1-2
lucy in GB, take out grez
scarlet mishka

#

then add cycle for 3 probs

sacred notch
#

If u crediting me, gotta follow. Dems da rules

sage badger
#

no

#

u gotta follow me for asking for a follow

#

dems da rules

lapis moth
sage badger
#

this guy on youtube had some f2p teams too

#

one sec

sage badger
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go thru his vids they’re nice

lapis moth
wide wasp
#

Comps look good? No alna

lapis moth
wide wasp
lapis moth
wide wasp
#

u can switch lyca for rowan tbh

lapis moth
#

Ok thanks, I'll try

wide wasp
#

in later teams use rowan in ainz comp

lapis moth
lapis moth
sacred notch
#

Yes, this buff he replaces grez if u have him built

lapis moth
#

I see

misty epoch
#

@sage badger Is Zol better than Estrilda in the Scarlet team?

restive goblet
#

I think zolrath might mess up her energy drain ability against some enemies

#

With zolrath, her front liners walk forward too much before she drains

misty epoch
#

I didn't even think about that, guess will just stick with Estrilda

lime zinc
potent parrot
potent parrot
#

lyca gives haste > faster attacks > more energy

potent parrot
#

no

bright light
#

not priority, but he’s solid for this debuff

sacred notch
#

He's quite cheap to start building too

bright light
#

200 min
303e30 Optimal, so maybe get his furn if u can spare a slot in your wl

sage badger
#

his furn seems quite good too

bright light
#

they r expensive tho, afaik they need e60

#

idk if they r used anywhere without engravings

stuck sun
#

Just got my full 4F teams and Lucy A and some dim heroes. Anyone mind helping me out with some Teams I can make cuz I genuinely have just been putting same faction teams and not really been thinking

lime zinc
sacred notch
#

Non-whale here 👋

lime zinc
#

So for you that'd be something like
Mish/Rosa/Lyca/Scarlet/Raine
Grez/Daimon/Oden/Ferael/Silas

#

Ainz is pretty bad this buff but it's probably still your best 3rd

frozen crest
#

scuffed cycle will definitely work better than ainz, i experimented it before

#

ainz got like 20% in team 3, or less i forgot

#

compared to raku cc/luc cycle

lime zinc
#

Could probably just slap in Skreg or Sonja in the Haelus slot for super budget lol

quaint isle
#

My Scar burst team just got handled by Raku LDV burst comp, only 1 fight but anyone run Miskha, Zol, Lyca Raku and LDV this round?

peak widget
lime zinc
#

Normally I'd run LDV burst at 4th or 5th team

wide wasp
#

Ima put lyca in for daimon, ik

wide wasp
stuck sun
lime zinc
#

Crucial meta information
I never would've found out that Alna Luc counters Lucius otherwise homegalul

frozen crest
#

holy shit alna luc counters lucius?!?!!

quaint isle
lime zinc
wide wasp
frozen crest
#

mine doesnt work well against lucius though rosalinesad maybe it;s because i dont have an athalia to outdamage lucius's op heals

gusty valley
quaint isle
wide wasp
#

or use Aezizh , and predict where lucius will be

frozen crest
steady hill
#

imagine using aezizh

#

bro shit without IS

lime zinc
#

Wait do people actually use Lucius

frozen crest
#

it have a decent pickrate on the hunter intel

#

on the rare times i check it

#

some people still living in 2018

quaint isle
#

My burst budget comp get crushed by others burst comp 🥲

lime zinc
#

No one actually loses to Lucius though right

wide wasp
lime zinc
#

I use luc instead of luc

frozen crest
quaint isle
frozen crest
#

ooh

wide wasp
#

thats kinda bad heroes for 23baaaaa

quaint isle
#

Yeah, I took like a year and a half break in between 😂

wide wasp
lime zinc
wide wasp
lime zinc
wide wasp
#

ik its late..

lime zinc
#

Free region kHAHAsos

frozen crest
#

peach plz change bio color

#

my eyes burn every time i check profile

wide wasp
lime zinc
#

And you can't even run Rowan there at 3 team anyway ig

quaint isle
steady hill
frozen crest
gusty valley
opal bone
frozen crest
#

i shall be the first to sign it

opal bone
#

Leave me alone WAAAHsos

quartz salmon
#

@frozen crest will you run dims or raku+LDV+Kren for t4 ?

frozen crest
#

raku

#

already sort of running raku in t2 lol

opal bone
#

My Raku only 303 e35 WAAAHsos

wide wasp
quartz salmon
opal bone
frozen crest
quartz salmon
#

Ohh t25 damn nice

frozen crest
#

cant hope for t20 because id prolly drop to t100 before it ends kekw

quartz salmon
#

Im t70 and I’m running traditional scarlet burst, so slotting raku might actually be better here

opal bone
#

I don't think Raku is better here.

#

This is just first round.

#

Win rate inflated.

#

My regular Scarlet is 98%

frozen crest
#

o wow

#

cant run that because i cant get scarlet's combat rating higher than mishka's

#

and rosaline sounds meh

quartz salmon
#

Nvm my ranking is bad cause I had Grez in gbs instead of Alna...

opal bone
wide wasp
#

my ranking is bad , cause mingles has no life , and is stealing 1 rank from the server

frozen crest
#

i dont regret it

wide wasp
#

raku overrated

frozen crest
#

ym overrated

opal bone
#

I've logged like 5 hours the last week at best.

lime zinc
#

raku is certified ass

opal bone
#

Skeepies got to 2% on round 1 of last buff and thinks he's God's gift to men. tiduslaugh

wide wasp
#

and in campaign i dont wanna push ults manually like an idiot , i wanna auto battle like an idiot

quartz salmon
#

4 teams or even later?

opal bone
#

My Raku is only e35 because he's pretty useless at the moment. Bad in PvP without the Zol burst, and doesn't need further investment for campaign.

opal bone
#

So really zero reason to invest Raku.

frozen crest
#

budget burst belovedzikis

#

for f2plebs

lime zinc
#

I think Ainz does better than Budget burst anyway

steady hill
#

wtf this alna luc lacking

lime zinc
#

But I'm going to try budget burst with Zaph at 4 team

wide wasp
lime zinc
wide wasp
#

maybe grez

steady hill
#

jk im nub

#

hmmm let me see

#

as a pleb, i dont have her

wide wasp
steady hill
#

no i want ezizh kHAHAsos

steady hill
frozen crest
#

what u running 4 teams peach

#

me want copy

lime zinc
#

A black and purple demon guy

#

yw

steady hill
#

E+

#

pleb

lime zinc
#

I wonder if my e30 Ezizh will make my cycle run better in TS

opal bone
#

Frontline Oden is grief belovedzikis

#

Just a hipster thing

steady hill
#

oden frontline is the way

lime zinc
#

Athalia owners: Who even runs Oden anyway

frozen crest
#

thanks

wide wasp
#

Does this teams looks fines?

steady hill
#

i mean i focus cr so i dont mind atha

lime zinc
#

Last TS I didn't have e60 Haelus or e30 Ezizh so it'll be a big jump

frozen crest
wide wasp
#

Any other changes?

misty epoch
still heron
#

@rare grove solisebanana

wide wasp
misty epoch
#

RIP

wide wasp
misty epoch
#

Not sure how useful is 200 Astar

hasty scaffold
wide wasp
misty epoch
#

Yes, seems like the best teams you could put together to me, after that just hope the good teams carry the shit ones

#

At least that's what I do

wide wasp
#

smart.

still heron
#

Gazing Athalia rn and then Orthros

hasty scaffold
#

Same with Atha

still heron
#

Not bad for 45k diamonds khasosrun

hasty scaffold
#

Pffft. Hacker gunsolise

wide wasp
misty epoch
#

What's your AThane wr?

#

Nice, wished I could check mine but in boss stage now

still heron
sage badger
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region 12 rank 79

opal bone
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Top 100 with Awakened heroes, poggy woggy. belovedzikis

sage badger
lapis moth
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is this good luc cycle or are there replacements I can use for the non A heroes?