#treasure-scramble
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Haven't had much luck with Zikis this round t b h, but perhaps I just put him in the wrong teams...
Whales
Too many niche heroes lol 
guide when pls, I’m still using same teams as last debuff 
I mean lots of people are posting their formations with WR
Show me a battle with vurk 309e60 pls
Just check which teams you can put together and try it out
And they all suck! 😄
(Mine included. Performing horribly. So no offence!)
We're all kinda on the same boat, new debuff
Only whales show their teams xd
usual TS teams getting ~50 wr for me so not that bad
Looking whale? There's even a Nemora in there for crying out loud! 😄
Changed E+ Ezizh for Haelus in Luc cycle and dropped 10% wr lmao
Think Haelus is pretty much only good for buffing someone strong with a cube. Rest of the kit kind of falls apart with no shields...
Yea I figured but thought it would still be better than E+ Ezizh, especially when he's 309e60 but guess not...
Worth noting though is that RNG actually plays a part. Even in 50 fights, you can't say for certain. But shure is an indication....
Wow. Standard luc-cycle with Haelus was 12% for me...
Though that MIGHT have been some bad rng/pairing aswell.
44% for me ^
it’s probably bcs my region is new
I am in 64, you?
His poison seems to stack with the Energy Recovery debuff because whoever he poisons basically doesn't get any energy at all, but here's a battle with him:

Cool team!
And yeah, the heroes are very niche, but they seem to work surprisingly well this round so thought to share in testing just in-case it might help.
Yup. It's a hard team to just copy&use... 😄
Right.
Or, well, it's easy enough. But my version probably wouldn't get quite the same results. 🙂
its worth to use AThane on mystic+ and si30?
maybe on 5-6 teams
lol
Silas with AThane doing much better, and doesn't really hurt alna team much
Other teams kinda bad though
Just E60'd framton finally, will see how much that helps
but baba yaga ain't it for dim team
My random bs from last season still works lol, with desira replaced by talene
Wonder if you're not better of running Hendrik in AThane comp, and Jean in Ainz...
Finally a 3rd team with +50 wr
my burst sucks tho idk how to fix it
My burst has sucked this buff no matter what I do
That Alna GB team is cracked lol wth, 90%
zol variant better than kren but decent 2%
yeah it seems burst isn’t great
What's the thesku comp in TS with LDV?
raku comp but thesku for someone
Extra comps kinda going well (but I dropped from 2% down to 6% lol)
S1x%Eyes. 

t30
DIS WONT LAST JUST ENJOYING FOR NOW 
@solemn sage from what I can tell, luc-cycle does significantly better with mortas instead of Desira. (My Desira isn't engraved though...)
Wow! Gratz!
🐳
Skylark newest Leviathan 
No am confirmed banana
what a nice vegan option
Look what happens when I leave you
R69 has a f2p vegan as #1
Tbh when we were in the same region we were lucky to be t10
Now he's in 1 in r69 and I'm in 4 in r71 lol
i feel bad for people in 70
Not bad
Team 4 & 5 are significantly worse. Not sure if luc cycle is better than that Scarlett team
That doesn't look bad for burst this buff actually
My yesterday record for comparison. Not really difference between last 2 teams
I'm totally amazed by this debuff. Last two rounds I have had one team (different ones) that did 3% resp 6% WR, and I'm still top50. When that happens, you know the struggle is real! 🙂
Luc cycle is doing way better than Scarlet comp for me
Just noticed I did that scramble round with E59 framton still
I bought cores from event shop and then didn't spend them

Guess I'll get a true A/B comparison of how big his E60 is
I was doing 10% better with oden instead of ezizh, but this round I'm gonna try athalia in cycle
Athalia should be pretty strong this debuff since she'll do some serious damage from the beginning. (Bleed isn't damage, and thus shouldn't be reduced...)
Wellp, engraving spree (E60 grez/oden, e30 joa) before this season has certainly paid off considerably
98% thats mad 
Yeah, I haven't seen it drop below 98% in a few days. It is getting really amusing
gosh i love your regions
Same lmao, I have to put in 0 effort
ily 
no
My server separately is even better, there is no whales left. First in arena, 4th in LCT
start over
what region are you
👍
nah thrash codes
S920/r65
Whats ur region?
50

dumb ass joined a 2020 server but i started playing like june 2021
why didnt you restart

theres no such thing as “restart on a new server” advice 1 year ago 
Haven't bothered changing teams since last time, trash wr but have been carried by first 3
interesting r5....
im impressed that it got 22%
Random bullshyt go
y’all getting easy ranks with that
^
i think t50 is possible tho
bro got 2x permacc 
with more serious teams
4/5 is whatever random crap I had left over 3 TS seasons ago that I haven't changed LOL
Its been hilarious to me that I've been t100 twice and 0.4% once with it
What Ch. Is no. 1 ?
4% dont mind atalene still outperforms than my E ezizh
Lmao
Just went thru leaderboard and that mega whale is the only one, by 10 its dolphins at best
1/2 are bnb
Still thinking about it. If I’m no longer here you know why xD
gib acc

something about it being linked to his main email
and we would be able to see his history
smh
Gib account sweepstakes 
This debuff fkin sucks
I don't know, I'm kind of starting to like it, in a weird kind of way. I mean, the debuffs are obviously meant to shake the meta, and for once it's kind of succeded. 🙂
new meta = fuck new players ngl
Well, I guess that's one way to see it. O t o h, older players on older servers tend to need more built heroes, so it's not like everybody has every hero built to useable level anyway.
You could also argue that it's a way for ppl hanging here, testing stuff, sharing ideas, reading skills and thinking to perform way above their hero rooster...
Its fucking us f2p and new players
Fine. It sucks then. 🤷🏻♂️ 😎
My 5th team has 2%wr
Mine has 0% currently... 🙂
Thing is, EVERYBODYS 5:th team has <10% winrate, atleast it seems like it from the leaderboard.
You see
Yeah. But then it doesn't really matter. All you need to do is find the small percentages, to perform way better than average.
Tbf f2p/newer people will always have weak teams from 5 onwards.
True.. But this is 500x worse
lilith when no kraken:
even whales got fucked with this ae 
look at arkinz 

Testing a scarlet variant.
25 battles in, it could have been better honestly.
🤷🏻♂️ 😄
Going back to zikis builds. Atleast he's cool!
put scar p4 and she might win 1 or 2 
Changing back to team 5 (4x wr) but only has 18% wr atm. This fking debuff is so random 💀💀💀
I think TS in general is pretty random. Both outcome per fight and what/how you get paired for the fights.
(Or when your E60-E80 team loses to the mirror with E30 max...)
Yeah I do agree it may change depends on opponent matching, but feel like this debuff makes team too fragile > inconsistent
Yes, randomness is kind of real. My exact same Ainz-Dim comp has been 70:ish% all the time. Now currently, it's at 44%. But, again, might just be a bit of randomness + matchups. 25 fights is a statistically speaking really small samplesize after all.
I've noticed my winrates are always lower in the x800-x999 prestige ranges
My hunch is that as the biggest whales move to 6 teams, the rank 5-15 whales get matched with lower ranks instead
I do see getting match with top 100 even I only at 4% at that time
what do you guys use with scarlet
The matchup depends on your prestige, not ranking
Probably a FAQ, but besides 5 pull team and a Mauler invade team, what other ways can we beat this challenge at the top area? Any help, thanks. 🙂
@civic sage show teams 
Yeah. It would be pretty interesting to know how the matchmaking works. I too guess it's within a range of prestige somehow. At first I thought it was within your division, but I don't think that's correct, I'm pretty sure, when in the x900 range, I have been matched against opponents in the next division (and in the x100 range I've been fighting some teams from a lower division).
So, somehow, within a range of prestige, kind of makes sense.
(Then what's the point of the three different paths is beyond me. You can randomly, perhaps, not have to fight the server whales until highest division, if you're lucky and select a path they don't...)
I just always choose the same path each time and seem to consistently face the same people. I would guess most people stay on the same path they usually take unless they did really badly before or something and are hoping a different path would be easier.
Anybody have any ideas for 6 and 7 team that uses less used heroes?
My current 5 team. I do not have awakened Brutus or thane
Uhhh I don't think I want a 0% team lol
Why not? Could be worse.
Yeah... Two 0% teams would be worse, and it still can be worse than that...
man i wish i stay in t50
this ts is a messed. it's tough with only 2 good teams
😂😂😂
yea not a fan of this one so far tbh. same rank as the others but it's kinda lame only having two teams go positive by now
5p 
tbf that's a weird looking 5p
what rank
bouncing between 25-35
wtf your region is that easy now?
yes
r69? 
yes
I'm using that Scarlet team (except 30960 Mish, 20330 Estri, 303 Rosa, 30960 Scarlet, 30930 Lyca) and it's at 0% WR 
region diff sure is a thing 😔
Region diff makes me feel bad for being so weak for how old my acc is 
True. My scarlet comp is at only 25%. My random bs does better around 35%. Still drop to 2%
Works better than expected
Does anybody know? Is Zolrath and Talene/ATalene a nonbo? Does Talene prevent Zolrath from being the last one to die, even in fireball state, due to still being "alive"? I think so, but I'm not sure...
no
if talene is dead while zol is close to dying
he resets the fights
talene is dead while in the pasive form
Tested a bit, and yes, this seems correct. Thanx.
The "odd" interaction with Talene in fireball form, is that she seems to count as alive for Kelthur:s spirit form. WIth Kelthur dead but in spirirt, and Talene dying and going into fireball, the fight still continues despite all heroes being "dead".
It can also break for Flora but I've only seen it for the AI (where Flora won't come down until after Talene dies after rez)
May I ask which region is this? Have a similar Mauler comp with AThane. Maybe I can use this Mauler one and Athane into LB AThane
Only remembered to fix my 6 team setup 15mins before scramble 
i did it 30s before lmao
48 points off t100 rn 
Currently 59th
6th team works somehow I guess
r4 82nd btw if it matters
But I'll very likely fall to 2%
t25
Wtf how that high with a 6% winrate team
idk lol, it's weird
if i still get high in 7 teams then it only means this region is very fucked up
52nd r62
I am sure that's what 99% of us are doing
Dropped down to 6% 
Hey ! I haven't really paid attention to treasure scramble yet, I've just been throwing random teams in there and sitting around 40%. I'd like to climb to get some more tasty rewards. So if you have any tips on which team I should run it would help a lot !
sheesh 40%? what reg by the way
Because everybody's struggling like hell to find working team 5-6-7...
Region 6
Desira or Talene seem to work OK. Not as good though, but I think the total is better.
Every cycle have different debuff so there’re no set teams. You should check out often for what people use
If you’re lazy and don’t want to change too often. Just use common comps like Ainz, Alna GB, Burst, Cycle
Right now I have Ainz, alna GB, 5 pull, scarlet and the last two teams are pretty much bullshit
How does region works ? The higher/lower the better ?
Region is based on server
u can see my comps when scrolling above, complete bullshit yet t50
I’m on S109 so it would explain why it’s such a low region
You’re in R6 which is a pretty old one. So with your heroes box, it’s tough to get high rank
I’ll try to copy comps shared above, it will much likely improve my score at least by a bit
Yes it surely will
Tfw 5th and 6th are 20% and 16% respectively
*Scarlet and Stall 5th and 6th
At 30 battles GB was at 100% lol
This good? I dont have many heroes..
Desira in GBs not so hot
back to talene
Trez cycle is best cycle version I've tried
And I'm just gonna keep throwing stuff at team 5 to see what sticks
I’ve given up on this debuff. I’m just putting teams and hoping it’ll be over soon 
same but at day 2 
yeah. what a pain
Well, for what it counts, here is a continuation of team experiments for anyone curious:
👍
These mauler team are hot
what round and ranking?
Dropped to 57th place - probably because Team 5 and 6 are super scuff - region 61.
Is this some full Mauler account 😂
Well, not full - but it's pretty heavy mauler investment compared to other factions I guess. 
i’ve been flopping back and forth between top 70 and top 2%, just luck of matches (region 12)
Worked better for me, but I run GB with Athalia, so that might make quite a bit of difference. Just tested to shift Athalia out aswell, and that seems like it was a bad idea. GB does significantly worse, and Athalia don’t seem to make much of an impact in weak teams…
If’s quite good with mortas aswell.
Athalia's in my abrutus team, think she's pretty important there but I can try moving her
Think talene GBs should do alright though
I don’t have e60 oden, I think that’s the big difference. Without that, the team falls apart without Athalia.
Also don’t have ABrutus, so don’t have that specific problem. 😄
(It can probably vary slightly between regions aswell.)
hey @solemn sage anasta 30960 next? or should i start building athalia now?
Anasta's gonna be better in general, Athalia better specifically for scramble though
Probably not. Most ”standard” ABrutus teams just get their butts kicked by GB in this debuff, atleast in r14.
so i do better in TS than i do CR, so should i start w athalia?
CR's kinda doomed for non-whales at this point so I'd probably do athalia yea
Or just do both

Athalia, if really built, is a very strong and flexible PvP hero. But she’s pretty much only good in PvP (and tower) I think.
And rift if doing cele, need a big hero pool for that though
and AThane
Mage will be better for majority of players
i have athane 🙈🙈 and abrutus
ig athalia it is 🙂 but i’ll wait to see if this new wilder is broken before spending diamonds 🙂
god i hate that when u type “:)” it gives u that slight smile
feels so passive aggressive
🙂

New wilder probably gonna be great in multiple modes
as a grez support
or abaden/asolise support if you have them
yeah exactly, i only have L swolelise, but only about 200 time cards saved up…
my teams are pretty much the exact same as last debuff and im t96 for some reason
Yeah, it’s strange. Feels like, now when more ppl are reaching 6 teams, they are in general, performing even worse. Even though my messabout with GB has lowered my averall winrate, I’m now climbing in rank…
Same for me, from t50~ to t31 now, didn't change a single thing
Oops
Had a few of those. Doin’ great at identifying what’s not workkng. 😄
This debuff, having a few teams doing great seems to be key.
The damage decrease and energy decrease removes a lot of RNG
So the good teams just never lose to the random teams
And a truly bad team will actually get 0%, normally they'd RNG a few wins at least
here’s where i am rn, just outside top 100
yeah I agree, only 4 teams seem to be really good for this debuff, rest is kidna shit, so best to maximize wr in those teams imo
Which 3-4 teams would be good? Just good this mode.
Fell from just short of top 100 to 8% 
im dropping out of t50 
Yeah, I got back down to below t50 but I expect to get slammed at 7 teams this TS.
Fell so far that my WR shot up 
Final day will be rough. Expect two teams to be low single digit winrates. O t o h, sometimes the added bullshit makes the slightly less bullshit more viable…
I actually jumped from 25 to 22 after 7 teams, maybe this is finally the time I get t20 
:prayge:
i somehow increased in rank after team 7 too, but ranked horribly on the last few rounds of team 6
oh wait maybe it's because we can fight anyone not in our path
and other paths are easier
Tried new teams dropped from t27 to t65 RIP
Bern there: ”honestly, these two teams cant possibly perform worse that the two I’m currently running”. ”Oh, they could…” 😆
For me it's something like: "Oh right, it needs E60/9F to work..."
That too. I simply don’t have enough heroes built enough…
t30
You're doing much better than 2 other whales in my server who have A Thane and A Brutus 
kekw
They don't have your big brain 
legit sometimes i dont know the fuck these people are doing with their woke heroes when i check history
Some don't really know much about TS mechanics really and maximizing the heores they have
if only i can have their accounts
F2p plankton top 2% r14 for reference
I found pairing desira with Scarlett is much better for my acc. She died too fast, so having some kind of healing or protection is better than giving her more haste
please just end TS rn
Stop the count!
this would be my first t20, wutus carried me
pogg
I’m doing Geez cycle wish me luck 
Mostly the the medal colour cuz it’s kinda flex if you have it
It’s the same number of SGs
ah i see
Oops top 10 and top 1 difference is just the medal colour
Top 20 is different my bad
oooo
Might finish outside t100 for first time, forgot to change teams. 
Well, at least there's still an hour and a half or so for the final push no?
also the banner diff
better to say top 1 then having an extra 0
Yeah. Two teams at 6% each atm. Probably gonna finish by dropping out of t50…
A pretty bad cycle so far. Having only 1 cycle of 7 teams at the end is kind of tough as you have no chance of optimism your teams
idk what's happening this round
I switched from a 0% team 7 to a 25%
all my other teams unchanged
and yet I've dropped from 31 to 37
winrates on other teams are all good too
I'm hoarding a ton of resources as f2p tbf. 
Meanwhile dummies on my server are e30ing and SI30ing every unit in their lct teams, I imagine it's the same for people on every server.
this round has a lot of lower ranks change into 7 teams so you and others high ranks probably got match up with those and have higher wr overall
SI30 all LCT was last year, now it's e60 all 
When do we get rewards?
never


This coming reset I think
I got rewards already
Hopefully its next reset
You got scammed by Lilith
It‘s over now. Where did u end? T20?
Rank 40, which is weird because all my winrates were equal or better to when I was rank 31 this morning
no engraving on oden raku ?
(honestly, a bit surprised about the drop. Overall winrate was 59%. Seems some ppl in r14 figured out how to perform in this debuff...)
No, because haven't gotten to Oden, and i don't like Raku.
his quite good tho
Yes. He's very good.
too busy getting that juicy thane too :))
Yeah, he took some resources...
are you plannign on doing them for better wr ? or nah
noice
my opponents will probably have abaden though
Oden is on build list. Just don't quite know when. Raku is probably not. E3x perhaps, that's not so expensive.
I could have e30:ed oden, but I think it's pretty pointless. His E60 is insane...
Yeah. We'll see if he'll be good.
Or, rather, how good.
Should probably build Brutus. But don't like Brutus at all. The character that is. He's obviously very good. But, really don't feel like it...
O t o h. ASolise seems really really good aswell. So it's a tossup between her and ABaden (if that's who it'll be in the end). Guess we'll see...
But in this debuff, I think neither ABrutus or ASolise did exceptionally. They seemed OK at best.
@still heron best ts I got so far, t31
F short
Copium. 
Finish 11th region 2
indeed bad matchups cost me a lot of resources tbh
quick q: would u reccomend to start gazing audrea, zaph, or orthos first? I’m only considering orthos bc i have a built Athane
@cold ridge first time 
@sage badger whats are they all at currently? And what is your current goal ? Aiming for TS better scores?
Great job
Somni help me bigtime, thanks @cold ridge
Wow that 1st place isn't even close
U too
He sold his soul ngl
Somni is one of the smartest f2p Players
Hands down
don't gaze orthros
AThane does fine without him (estrilda sonja haelus athane hendrik)
Why not ?
Zaph is more important for burst team than audrae I think, but they're both good
plus orthros is store hero so you'll get him eventually
Just curious
he's a store hero, and he's not good enough to justify gazing instead of buying in store
replaceable in pvp and CR is a doomed mode anyways
Zol and athalia can be worth gazing because they're much harder to replace
Used to be CR was king and pvp was only for whales
So that was reasonable advice
but with TS that's kinda flipped
Im talking about less then a month
and pets have made good CR ranking impossible for f2p/low spenders
so am I
But every cycle my rank is just getting lower and lower
despite me having every meta hero
top 200 damage is so ridiculously high because of pets that the number of people in legend keeps getting smaller
I'd probably gaze+store athalia
But zaph is also a good option
or wait and see how many places CRuke finds a use
So many options 
you've got all the critical heroes so it's a lot more subjective
I guess 4th option would be ascending mehira if you like to hardpush
Im power capped anyways so shes out
i was thinking about zaph
Imo its Athalia/Orthros and then Zaphrael but idk who first
I think there's a good chance of CRuke becoming CR meta in torne teams
plus is already good in pvp
Im 10%
Season is over
Next time ask for better teams. The only way u got that high percent is if u didn't use good teams at all
hey sorry i stepped away here they are currently. I stopped pursuing CR so much because of the restrictions and just i don’t do as well. I do a lot better in TS.
working on 309e60 for athalia rn
Tbh Zaph probably your best bet orothos looks like you can start getting him from shop since your others from the shop are all ascended
zaph > audrea/Atalene A*/moreal? in ur opinion? @little folio
@sage badger sorry get that star for A.talene so you can engrave her then zaph > audrea then reassess
no worries i just thought i’d ask ya know, appreciate the help. Gonna need a lot of mats coming up…. athalia e60, atalene e60, still need to do sonja and anasta e60…. then zaph and audrae? yikes
Yup the amount of e60s needed is alot
oh whale thanks!
Niiice, congrats!
Your ranking was bottom 20%, that's why it's so little
Severe skill issue detected
Ended up about the same ranking as last TS lol, which was also bad but hey at least it's not worse than 6%
My first time doing treasure scramble
Also those team I'm using is pre-set i didn't change a thing
The default teams are horrible (pretty much just random), so you probably should set some
Yeah next time
I'm kind of wondering this aswell. Don't haev Zaph (or Audrae) built. Was planning to build them next, but I'm staring to wonder how viable burst is. Feels like pretty much all the top PvP teams have fallen off a cliff in the awakened meta. Ainz is out due to ABrutus or ASolise stealing the dim shell, AlnaGB is still sort of viable. Cycle going to, i m h o, much worse scarlet variation due to Haelus getting stolen by AThane and then Luc going to AlnaGB since that's mostly stronger than Grez-variant. Burst still have their heroes left intact, but as far as I can tell, Zaph and Audrae are pretty much only good in burst, not that many alternate uses for them. (Or perhaps there will be, they are obviously strong PvP heroes...)
You'd still use burst and ainz if you didn't have a lot of AWs
Yes, but both AlnaGB and AThane are better against Ainz for me. (misread. thought you said burst AGAINST ainz)
(And the number of Ainz comps in LCT/LC and top100 TS are diminishing rapidly...)
(Except for this debuff, where Ainz was very strong. But then burst isn't an alternative anyway.)
I'm not saying I'm right. I'm putting a theory out there and asking ppls oppinions.
Well the burst team concept will always be there but like how audrae is a part of it not it will always evolve who knows maybe the GB awaken will replace audrae in this formation with building all comps always remember supports are much more stable and last longer then the carries
Burst and ainz don't interfere with those comps though
You'd just run all 4
It's probably better to run AwThane in burst or the LB comp because it'd improve your overall WR more
Yes. That's kind of the saving grace for Burst, and what still makes me consider it. It would be another strong comp that doesn't cannibalize on other comps. Question is just exactly how strong it is, and will be, in the current and evolving meta.
It's still pretty standard
TS needs 7 teams afterall
Doesn't matter if it's not a top 5 team if it still makes the cut for top 7
Yeah. That's kind of the thing.
Might be wise to still build Zaph, but hold out a bit on Audrae...
And even if it isn't a top 7 team, it's probably easier to acquire than a full AW lineup
Zaph:s dive+stun will probably always be useful somewhere...
Yeah. Full AW is a no-go, even as a light spender.
No way to keep up on the time emblems, regardless of monthly card.
2/day is still waaaay below what's needed.
3-team towers is pretty much a wall for free time emblems there aswell.
Yeah i think he is pretty safe to build, and see how the next couple big releases affect the meta
Still need furniture for him anyway, so waiting for that, but keeping him in wishlist I think.
Pointless to build before having the resources to get them to useable state.
Yeah just hoard till you can go all in on a hero
Is new debuff as fucked as last one?
New debuff?
We have only 1 new debuff, the frozen debuff thingy. Now it's back to dealing damage consecutively I think
Should just be another in the cycle
What should i choose?
Pick your favorite color (it doesn't matter which path you chose really)
Ainz bad right? Can’t remember now
@hasty scaffold yo, what did u take last time and what will you take now?
i dont want to go against you
My first 2 teams are scar burst and gb
Don’t tell anyone. I took green
last time also green yeah?
Yes I’m a creature of habit
great thanks
Please any whale in 69 avoid me please lels
Is this the multi-hit buff?
I believe so, since I have scar burst as one of my first 2 set teams
yeah it is
Yay or nay?
In my experience, Ainz still did better than budget burst at 4team
Going to retry burst at 4 team myself though, because I have Zaph now
team 3 yall just split gb and luc yeah?
Yeah, for people that don't have AW teams
Ye
ic
This buff is the best debuff for luc cycle anyway
lemme overdose on hopium and pray to reach t50 this season
I'm just aiming for <1% lol
You did not? I thought you were top 30
yeah was top30 before last 50 battles
woke up 2 mins late to reset, cant check winrates, and got 56 
i dont understand why lilith doesnt allow us to view winrates after season
it's a sunday, who would wake up so early to check winrates
Oooft that sucks
We have a new Kraken in 69 btw. Suddenly has a team of e80s . Must have won the lottery or something
loool
oh? didnt notice that. who is it
The number 4. I swear he didn’t have that roster before. E80s overnight
LOL
yea that tree lol
aight counting on you to beat that kraken's ass
This guy has been terrorizing my server since i started.
This guy has been tearing it up in r62 since I started (make sure to follow btw)

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If I were hypothetically running budged burst and had a zaphrael that was M+ SI 30, would he be worth trying out? I'm under the impression his furniture is sort of a big deal.
wont know until you try and fall 50 ranks 
is luc cycle worth w mythic haelus and epic twins or nah
Any “standard” team suggestions for 2 teams, 3 teams, and 4 teams?
@dawn tinsel this is pretty 'standard'
do alna luc on 2 teams
@molten sparrow @still heron don't forget TS teams
Ainz no good with this debuff?
5th team i think
Got it. Few more questions:
- Is Scar still good with just 3f?
- Good substitute for Haelus in the cycle comp?
You know, if you wouldn't have edaid anything, I would have just ignored it. Anyway I'm here now. Not going to forget it this time. What should my teams be? I'm not familiar with pvp comps
@dusk tundra what u hit last TS?
Also, does the path I choose matter?
No
less dmg but ig workable
skreg if 9f, otherwise desira ig(i use deisra)
what would whale 2-3 team comps look like for this one again? idr
Still working on Skreg furn, and Desira only E+ - for early rounds I was considering throwing in a second carry like Scar/Raku/Kren - is that worse than another support? If support, how’s Mortas or Rosa? (Or would you still recommend Desira?)
First 2 team is mishka scarlet and alna athane right
second one sounds right for sure but idr about team 1
no idea, gotta experiment ig
@storm moth how did preM desira work for you?
Actually not sure if this meant have “Alna GB Luc as one team, and Scarlet burst as second team in the beginning, then split Alna-GB and Cycle Luc when you get to 3 teams”; or “first two teams = Alna-GB & Cycle-Luc”.
1st one
Got it - is Silas the one to be dropped for Luc?
grez
Grez
Oh okay - and Alna Luc front, or still Alna Oden?
Alna luc

Tbh I didn't see much change in oden front but maybe I just wasn't paying attention
Gotcha, thanks for all the help - if these debuffs are on rotation, worth pinning some FAQs?
teams vary per region so eh

Glow up or blow up
guide pinned pls
Okay, make one. We pin
Official guide for TS
Copy the top formation, create ur own team if u dont have any heroes or investment needed

pin
😅😅
no cs online unfortunately

it was meh
whats that supposed to mean
So, what should my teams be for treasure scramble. That's the main reason I never play it. I don't know what to do
Kadezh or someone will get to you with an answer when possible
@opaque nexus
huh?

Alna luc and scarlet
ty
Does ABrutus do better in alna than Luc at 2 teams?
better choice?
This is the way!
I’ve switched oden with Athalia. But That’s just my preference since i have her maxed out. Except e80-100
I’m pretty certain the answer is no
Go full gb and then Estrilda mishka lyca scarlett raine for the first 2
Full gb with Alna?
No alna for you, she's not 9f
Ig u could experiment since really early teams don't matter too much
Can try Daimon instead of Alna
A strong desira is better than alna with gbs
I don't have desira built
At least gbs vs gbs
Desira investment? 209?
203 min
302e30 athalia worth running over 30960 oden?
Ehh I'd say no, aren't her big breakpoints 9f and e60 anyway?
If you’re top 100 in an older region I wouldn’t especially at 2 teams
However first day doesn’t matter so you can experiment

yeahhh i flip between top 100 and top2% in region 12
this last one i was like 10 points off of top 100 iirc lol
honestly don’t u think ezio would be better than Ainz due to debuff and ezios eagle vision ult?

ezio better
ok thought so
i’m honestly at the point where i might start taking some poe coins…
i’m missing a lot of furn i need
poe hoe time
i’ve been building key heros so the comps change 😦 abrutus, whane, athalia, :((((
i dont have abrutus so im using mishka scarlet with zol
Eh, it will always change
u could use that for ur 3rd team
yea that was the plan i think
The buff it's made specially for this
either that or lucy cycle
Did you guys try different combinations for alna gb with scarlet for 2 and 3 teams? Wondering which might be optimal
Also what does athane need to start seeing good results?
30960
😬

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yeah im poe broke 😔
same
Thoughts about this? Which Alna comp are you guys using for 1-2 teams? I've no Athalia
alna lucy oden ferral silas
then like scarlet burst w
zol mishka lyca scarlet lorsan
then for 3 team, take lucy from GB, and put her in cycle if u have it
Otherwise, suffer
You don't use dims until 4 teams than?
ye np, if u read the debuff it helps a little, but sometimes it’s still wonky
which team 0.o
ah over lorsan gotcha
Mines in zolrath wilder burst shenanigans
this my 2-4 team setup…
Really? Astar over raine?
would you still use it at E+
who
what
astar
Definitely not e+ Astar
no
ok
astar needs 303 to be useful
This is what I used last time for 7 teams (thanks to @frozen crest for last teams) do you think this lucy cycle will be good for 3 teams
last 7 teams meaning last debuff or last volcano round?
looks like last debuff
Last round in the previous debuff
i still say this
but for 1-2
lucy in GB, take out grez
scarlet mishka
then add cycle for 3 probs
If u crediting me, gotta follow. Dems da rules
Thank you sir, will do
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Comps look good? No alna
For scarlet mishka rosa, rayne, or rowan here?
raine , cause insta ult
even with no 3f though?
i have no 3f , and still almost insta ult
u can switch lyca for rowan tbh
Ok thanks, I'll try
in later teams use rowan in ainz comp

Didn't know eorin was good at 300
Yes, this buff he replaces grez if u have him built
I see
@sage badger Is Zol better than Estrilda in the Scarlet team?
I think zolrath might mess up her energy drain ability against some enemies
With zolrath, her front liners walk forward too much before she drains
I didn't even think about that, guess will just stick with Estrilda
I get better results with Estrilda, some people choose Zol because Raine buff lands on Mishka but my Zol performed worse anyway
what did i just read
lyca is the one who makes her ult fast
lyca gives haste > faster attacks > more energy
not priority, but he’s solid for this debuff
He's quite cheap to start building too
200 min
303e30 Optimal, so maybe get his furn if u can spare a slot in your wl
his furn seems quite good too
they r expensive tho, afaik they need e60
idk if they r used anywhere without engravings
Just got my full 4F teams and Lucy A and some dim heroes. Anyone mind helping me out with some Teams I can make cuz I genuinely have just been putting same faction teams and not really been thinking
Typically a non-whale will open with Scarlet burst + GBs
Non-whale here 👋
So for you that'd be something like
Mish/Rosa/Lyca/Scarlet/Raine
Grez/Daimon/Oden/Ferael/Silas
Ainz is pretty bad this buff but it's probably still your best 3rd
scuffed cycle will definitely work better than ainz, i experimented it before
ainz got like 20% in team 3, or less i forgot
compared to raku cc/luc cycle
Oh right, I thought about cycle but forgot to suggest when I didn't see Twins+Ezizh+Haelus/Desira in the SS
Could probably just slap in Skreg or Sonja in the Haelus slot for super budget lol
My Scar burst team just got handled by Raku LDV burst comp, only 1 fight but anyone run Miskha, Zol, Lyca Raku and LDV this round?
Normally I'd run LDV burst at 4th or 5th team
Ima put lyca in for daimon, ik

Ty for the help. I actually have twins at E+ and desira at E+ but don’t have ezizh either 😔
Crucial meta information
I never would've found out that Alna Luc counters Lucius otherwise 
holy shit alna luc counters lucius?!?!!
I think Farael is crucial here, without him I don't think your Alna Luc can bypass Lucius's shield buff

wow! who would have known?
mine doesnt work well against lucius though
maybe it;s because i dont have an athalia to outdamage lucius's op heals
Not sure this is correct, seems like the win rate is 100% only because you never encountered him, according to "against <blank> times". If you had, winrate would surely be significantly worse...
Copy his formation, Farael will exhaust all of Lucius's energy
or use Aezizh , and predict where lucius will be
the game predetermined that alna luc will luckily win against lucius in a sweat match
Wait do people actually use Lucius
it have a decent pickrate on the hunter intel
on the rare times i check it
some people still living in 2018
My burst budget comp get crushed by others burst comp 🥲
skill issue
No one actually loses to Lucius though right
lucius OP i use him instead of alna in campaign
I use luc instead of luc
wat region dis?
23
ooh
thats kinda bad heroes for 23
Yeah, I took like a year and a half break in between 😂
thats longer than i have had the game
Mine has a 16% wr in the mirror 
I put in lyca for daimon, do wr gonna be even better

interesting
What region are you even?
Free region 
skill issue
I'd try it out if it was a low wr team later on but I don't want to mess around at 2 team
And you can't even run Rowan there at 3 team anyway ig
Yeah, image quitting the game when they introduced Oak Inn and come back to everyone got 300+ furnitures in your server 🤣
yeah
i cant
change ur eyes

(No. He's actually not horrible in PvP if fully built. Was in a formation of the r14 LC winner some rotations back. But, who has him fully built? Nobody, that's who... 🙂 )
Time to petition discord to ban all white background users. 
i shall be the first to sign it
hello mingles🥵
Leave me alone 
@frozen crest will you run dims or raku+LDV+Kren for t4 ?
mine is 303e42 skill issue
Ranking? And you are region 67 right?
On your part, yes. 
reg 69
t25
Ohh t25 damn nice
cant hope for t20 because id prolly drop to t100 before it ends kekw
Im t70 and I’m running traditional scarlet burst, so slotting raku might actually be better here
I don't think Raku is better here.
This is just first round.
Win rate inflated.
My regular Scarlet is 98%
o wow
cant run that because i cant get scarlet's combat rating higher than mishka's
and rosaline sounds meh
Nvm my ranking is bad cause I had Grez in gbs instead of Alna...
Maybe if you didn't e60 Raku instead of Scarlet 
Get those red stars 
my ranking is bad , cause mingles has no life , and is stealing 1 rank from the server
raku overrated
ym overrated
raku is certified ass
Skeepies got to 2% on round 1 of last buff and thinks he's God's gift to men. 
and in campaign i dont wanna push ults manually like an idiot , i wanna auto battle like an idiot
4 teams or even later?
My Raku is only e35 because he's pretty useless at the moment. Bad in PvP without the Zol burst, and doesn't need further investment for campaign.
i am.
I think Ainz does better than Budget burst anyway
wtf this alna luc lacking
But I'm going to try budget burst with Zaph at 4 team
skill
My WR is about the same but flipped for the teams 
maybe grez
still better than u
jk im nub
hmmm let me see
as a pleb, i dont have her
nice. level 420
no i want ezizh 
yes its da wae
I wonder if my e30 Ezizh will make my cycle run better in TS
Athalia owners: Who even runs Oden anyway
thanks
Does this teams looks fines?
i mean i focus cr so i dont mind atha
Last TS I didn't have e60 Haelus or e30 Ezizh so it'll be a big jump
y not back mid scarlet for t2
You got JoA?
@rare grove 
nope.. i took a break , and i came back like a few days b4 exchange , so i couldnt get her
RIP
so my teams are fine?
I might swap Astar with Ferael and put Daimon in Alna GB
Not sure how useful is 200 Astar
Where's your Zaphy?
till what teams ? all ?
Yes, seems like the best teams you could put together to me, after that just hope the good teams carry the shit ones
At least that's what I do
smart.
Same with Atha
Not bad for 45k diamonds 
Pffft. Hacker 
not bad u say after me getting 1 alna after 35k..
Whale 
Goldfish
region 12 rank 79
Top 100 with Awakened heroes, poggy woggy. 

is this good luc cycle or are there replacements I can use for the non A heroes?



