No matter what I do
#treasure-scramble
storm moth
solemn sage
Depends on region and rank
some regions top 2% all get into 7 teams
some regions only top 100
little folio
@solemn sage oh never noticed your in same region that im in
little folio
dusk tundra
astar 5pull kinda good actually
nemora besides first charm and eorin don’t do shit here though lol
frozen crest
wasnt able to even check my teams' winrates because i woke up past reset :/
rare grove
Damn just 2 points short again for top 50 
granite mason
Astar + 4 randoms kinda good in general
agree 
novel vector
indigo epoch
Classy is f2p for sure, he posted his vip 9 confirmation
lime zinc
I want to try Morael invade for 7th after my Skreg actually gets 9F
swift raft
frozen crest
man i should probably start buying ars and cps to get better wr with celepogs
storm moth
dam
shy ibex
well my first team had 100% win rate
shy ibex
shy ibex
ended rank 63
shy ibex
unlucky matchmaking yesterday
worthy oyster
how much investment for Astar in scramble?
cold ridge
309e4x
worthy oyster
tks
sacred notch
oh yeah by the way have you tested mishka in burst?
Nah, didn't want to risk the Scarlett winrate
sacred notch
Wish I could get my ending %s
https://tenor.com/view/it-looks-like-you-are-too-slow-too-slow-slow-sonic-super-mario64-gif-15088929
frozen crest
icic
opal bone
I keep bouncing between 40-60 the entire second part, go into round 2 of last day in r49.
End 73rd.
storm moth
i wish
red veldt
For the next season what team does Haelus slot into? Is there a non-cycle team (don’t have twins or Ezizh ascended yet) that he helps a lot with?
tired hearth
For the next season what team does Haelus slot into? Is there a non-cycle team (...
You can use him with Athane if you have him
red veldt
You can use him with Athane if you have him
Hm, ok. My AThane is only M right now, 4 more copies to get him ascended. Might happen when they release the Aw GB
tired hearth
Hes not useless at mythic j just not that strong
red veldt
Hes not useless at mythic j just not that strong
Yeah, he’ll be my next si 30, but only 20 atm
Kinda going all in on him for my ascended awakened hero, going to fully 309e60
storm moth
thats good
tired hearth
Kinda going all in on him for my ascended awakened hero, going to fully 309e60
Him and Abrutus if you can swing it.
storm moth
he wants to be „maxed”
red veldt
Him and Abrutus if you can swing it.
Um, was going to do Swolise next for bossing, CR & Rift… is Brutus much better for CR and PvP to offset Swolise usage?
red veldt
he wants to be „maxed”
Yeah, since he’s aPvP focused hero, he kinda needs it, it seems
tired hearth
Um, was going to do Swolise next for bossing, CR & Rift… is Brutus much better f...
Good that's a good question. What do you want to focus? I like cr and pvp so I went with Abrutus first. But I also had tons of cards so I could get both. Swolise is definitely better if you are not in fabled realm and want to place higher
Since fabled realm you get the Max rewards no matter where you place
red veldt
Good that's a good question. What do you want to focus? I like cr and pvp so I w...
Yeah, I’m not in fabled realm. 🫤 Good question. I like pvp like scramble, but don’t have the tree to compete in challenger tourney, nor get tower in HoE, so not sure I can effectively make pvp my #1 focus. Both Abrutus & Swolise seem to be used in CR a lot, so maybe bossing & Twisted use should favor Swolise?
tired hearth
Definitely go swolise then.
red veldt
Definitely go swolise then.
Awesome, thanks for the advice. Does help clarify priorities. I should have Swolise done sometime in 2024…. 🤣
sour glacier
how much investment for Astar in scramble?
309e30 seems solid enough
am always #7-9 btw, and don't ever not use Astar.
sour glacier
Yeah, I’m not in fabled realm. 🫤 Good question. I like pvp like scramble, but d...
I don't have ABrutus or Swolise and hit top 7-9th place. I'd love Swolise though tbh but am prob 4+ months away. ABrutus is super minimal value.
He's good at everything, but only a nominal boost, even in CR ... building him gets people like 1% higher.
AThane is 100% the mvp of TS by far.
sour glacier
yesterday i dropped from rank 35 to 80
that means you were in between ranks and lost some matches to opponents much lower in power than you. You can have a losing win %, but if you get any wins vs whales then it gives you a ton of points. Need to just be smarter about what you play.
shy ibex
that means you were in between ranks and lost some matches to opponents much low...
just means i got shitty matchmaking
sour glacier
just means i got shitty matchmaking
oh ok, you keep doing you! keep up the good work
sour glacier
like why do i only face lower ppl for 35 rounds in a row
idk I guess make excuses and cry about it. I literally never rank below 10 and my bracket has 4 gigawhales that are top 30 overall in CR and I still have climber's packs available. I have 2 completely F2P alt accounts that I made to merc odd heroes to my main account that don't even have Luc or Alna and those still rank 50-80
You literally just have to look at the wins / losses and make minor adjustments.
ngl, it's not hard. I thought BnB was doing more.
solemn sage
New regions are way easier to get top 100 in
twilit gulch
Wrong channel. Ask questions in #classic-questions
tall osprey
Sorry@twilit gulch
red veldt
I don't have ABrutus or Swolise and hit top 7-9th place. I'd love Swolise though...
Thanks for the input!
dusk tundra
Can anyone help me setup a good team?
lime zinc
You literally just have to look at the wins / losses and make minor adjustments.
Making adjustments is the hard part because you can't add something you don't have
novel vector
AThane is 100% the mvp of TS by far.
Abrutus and Athane are equal in value
It mainly depends on what you're lacking
If you dont have a good Burst team then Athane will give you more value
sour glacier
Abrutus and Athane are equal in value
ABrutus is a decent hero to have but definitely isn't necessary or top tier while AThane is on his own tier above S for TS. You can see that in the win stats on every tier in every bracket.
I don't have ABrutus so idk what I'd be able to improve on with him, tbh I don't think having him would move me up even 1 place in TS since it's krakens above me, but imo Lucretia, Athalia, Scarlet, Mishka, Zolrath, and probably a few others have more value
novel vector
Whales don't use Scarlett btw
lime zinc
Athalia is good but she def is not even close to AwBrutus
sour glacier
Whales don't use Scarlett btw
yeah ik, gives me a lot of points since Scarlet often beats their ABrutus teams
novel vector
I mean my abrutus team was at a 80% winrate in the top 100 in my region
sour glacier
Athalia is good but she def is not even close to AwBrutus
I don't think so personally. I feel like I could not get 6-9th place consistently at all without Athalia, probably not even top 20
novel vector
Which is filled with casuals and Chinese guild members
sour glacier
Athalia is who I move based on wins / losses and seeing everyone else's team
lime zinc
AwBrutus makes teams possible, Athalia just gives GBs a tiny bit better WR over Oden
novel vector
If you based it on wins then you'd know Abrutus usually has a top 3 winrate in scramble
sour glacier
idk, maybe you're right and I could break into that top 5 if I had ABrutus, just doesn't seem like he's that impactful. He's definitely not as impactful as AThane though
solemn sage
ABrutus is a decent hero to have but definitely isn't necessary or top tier whil...
you skipped every hero in the best TS team
lime zinc
idk, maybe you're right and I could break into that top 5 if I had ABrutus, just...
Your perspective might just be skewed by how young your region is
sour glacier
you skipped every hero in the best TS team
haha but I said a few other though! 😛 that is definitely a good looking team
solemn sage
both those teams beat my athane team last debuff
though my sonja needs some more investment
sour glacier
Your perspective might just be skewed by how young your region is
could be for sure, but I win a lot against ABrutus .. and most of my losses are to other people's AThane teams
solemn sage
Athane burst is definitely one of the best teams
but at 5-7 teams you're better off splitting it into normal burst and athane haelus team
two 55-70% winrate teams are better than one 85% team
lime zinc
could be for sure, but I win a lot against ABrutus .. and most of my losses are ...
Are you sure you're comparing it to actual AwBrutus teams with an invested AwBrutus?
sour glacier
yeah for sure, TS is all about stretching it out as thin as you can. AThane is his own team, can run him with scraps in the end
sour glacier
Are you sure you're comparing it to actual AwBrutus teams with an invested AwBru...
yes, my server group is stacked, has Negate and other top 20 CR huge whales.
novel vector
You're missing the 309 walker
sour glacier
top 5 have all silver stars, most 36/36 furn, and pretty much the only teams of theirs I get wins against ever are ABrutus .. and then for some reason (prob laziness) one of them runs Ainz
solemn sage
top 5 have all silver stars, most 36/36 furn, and pretty much the only teams of ...
might just have set his teams in one of the first scramble runs then never touched them since
when you're that whale you can do that and coast for a while
novel vector
Pretty sure they have separate presets
solemn sage
there's presets for each debuff but there's only two debuffs
and it remembers them seperately
novel vector
Yes ik
sour glacier
might just have set his teams in one of the first scramble runs then never touch...
yeah I think so, am super thankful for that though since the points per win vs them is huge.
novel vector
That's why it doesn't make sense why they would have ainz for the last buff
solemn sage
because they set ainz team first time we had that buff
and still got good winrate with it because E80s
novel vector
Mine did too tbh
I was wondering why my dim comp was doing fine when I took Abrutus out
Btw did you try Joan in that 7th team with Abrutus? Or does Atalene need her as well
solemn sage
joan's a huge part of the dim team
ezio's the only replaceable part of that team but he's usually the best option
and atalene can be replaced with abrutus
but in last debuff atalene's better there
zinc canyon
that^ with joa instead of arthur good ?
lime zinc
that^ with joa instead of arthur good ?
JoA over Arthur is the standard dim team, for both Ainz and AwBrutus
twilit bison
What teams can I make
zinc canyon
JoA over Arthur is the standard dim team, for both Ainz and AwBrutus
might try it this ts
lime zinc
LDV mid over Ezio also works
sudden night
What 2 teams are you guys gonna start with?
limpid lava
Probably scarlet and alna lucy
novel vector
Might try Scarlett team but with Abrutus
coral flicker
Who should I start off with?
steady hill
Who should I start off with?
thats fine
nocturne token
thats fine
wow whale
nocturne token
ouch
nocturne token
nvm im old irl too
steady hill
same
coral flicker
I’m young 😥
digital goblet
What can I change/improve?
dusk tundra
Why are you guys starting with AlnaLucre? Isn't this the "burst" buff round?
coral flicker
Idk that’s why I’m asking here. I just use my higher investment heroes first
shut vessel
Luc is burst
dusk tundra
oO
solemn sage
Why are you guys starting with AlnaLucre? Isn't this the "burst" buff round?
there's two parts to this round buff
more damage for everyone first 12 seconds, and big stat boost to whichever hero the gets first kill
burst is good because it can snipe a quick first kill
albedo merlin joan is good because it can avoid having first death
alna luc is a mix of both
dusk tundra
I see. Thank you very much for explaining this
wide wasp
Are these teams good?
gritty dew
Yeah they are decent for your progression
wide wasp
Are there any changes i should make?
wide wasp
After you engrave luc put her in the front
building alna first
novel vector
What can I change/improve?
Joan over Arthur imo
novel vector
What I'll be rocking
versed vector
What I'll be rocking
Can I replace Abrutus with AThane or maybe someone else?
novel vector
Athane or Atalene will work
versed vector
My AThane is 307e60 atm though, is that still OK?
novel vector
Yes
digital goblet
Joan over Arthur imo
Don’t have her yet sadly
versed vector
What I'll be rocking
I have Athalia 309e60. Do you think its better to use her in any of the comps?
Maybe instead of Farael?
hasty scaffold
Typically, it's Oden that's replaced by Athalia
marble plinth
Anyone have a better 4th team I could run instead maybe something with scarlet? I could do some Raku kren DaVinci maybe?
novel vector
What I'll be running more than likely at 4 teams
still heron
Whats better Alna, Lucretia, GB's or Alna, AwThane, GB's ?
novel vector
Athane might suffer from the haste lost but idk
solemn sage
Whats better Alna, Lucretia, GB's or Alna, AwThane, GB's ?
AThane probably better if you only care about that one team, but overall winrate it's better to use athane on a different team
still heron
AThane probably better if you only care about that one team, but overall winrate...
Thank you
still heron
Any replacement for Zaphrael?
solemn sage
or put haelus there and someone else in team 3
my team 3 is kinda random, will probably change after seeing winrate
still heron
Hopefully it works
novel vector
It's very difficult to replace Zaph sadly
sacred notch
Simply pay more money
gritty shell
Simply pay more money
🤑
low iron
Oh 'fun', next season is going to be an energy gain reduction debuff for both teams.
royal sorrel
raku stonks go ^
foggy pawn
Good team?
dull elbow
Good team?
If you can 2nd team I would do Alna, Luc, and GB
novel vector
Yeah that 2nd time will probably bomb
icy spruce
Cycle or Ainz for third team? Those are my best options. No awakeneds for Ainz
steady hill
ainz
nocturne token
peach
nocturne token
i can sign your forehead
novel vector
Hmm, 8% with a 88% winrate
sacred notch
Sheesh
frozen crest
king o' 69
sacred notch
I love day 1 treasure scramble dopamine
bright light
LDV carrying ainz
ivory zinc
I saw people are subbing grez for luc in alna gb for the first round in treasure scramble is that better?
ivory zinc
Gracias
steady hill
grez dmg just ramps too slow
ivory zinc
I assume luc cycle is still 3rd best team for the next round tho?
ivory zinc
What would either team look like? Just finished building Athane today so still new to his lineups
Also with luc gbs is it oden or athalia
steady hill
athane burst like this
steady hill
heres the other one
ivory zinc
What would you sub Zaph with?
steady hill
astar or lorsan maybe
ivory zinc
Also with luc gbs is it oden or athalia
Last question I swear :p
steady hill
atha
ivory zinc
Tyty
ivory zinc
So like this?
steady hill
So like this?
do you have joan? or arthur
ivory zinc
Joan is 30/2/30, arthur 30/9/30
Both basically full t3
Arthur t4 wep/boots
Joan missing t3 chest but has the resonate t3
steady hill
i think arthur is better than mortas or joan when 3f cause you dont want ur heroes to die so early so having a tank helps
ivory zinc
I see, thank you
muted river
Should I rearrange my second team, currently at 94th
versed vector
Should I rearrange my second team, currently at 94th
Try Oden (if you have him 309e60) instead of Farael
muted river
Try Oden (if you have him 309e60) instead of Farael
my oden only at e41, but i'll give it a try
still heron
First time top 20 🥳
frozen crest
2%
novel vector
harsh valley
When do I unlock this Mode?
frozen crest
upon hitting 25
trim dune
Hey! I really want to keep the scramble nameplate, is there any way someone can help me out with teams? I'm really bad at PvP- ish teams
harsh valley
upon hitting 25
Cheers. Youre like the father I never had
steady hill
gonna try her instead of arthur then
vale imp
gears matter?
Think it's the usual automatically even gear but add in the hero specific bumps from t3, t4
novel vector
My Joan just has the t3 override
steady hill
she has no gear lol
it isnt martial so whatever ur gear has on her it will be used on ts
vale imp
oof, I forget but I generally have gear resonance on just in case
Think that's been saving me
frozen crest
heroes i use that arent in my crystal has no gear 
novel vector
Pretty sure only t4 gear gets used if you have it
Otherwise it's the same as everyone else
obtuse mauve
I'm a bit unsure about when heroes gear update in the continuous modes. If I take the gear off a hero, say to do a TR run, while scramble is ongoing. Does it affect the scramble?
(or other defense formations in arenas)
obtuse mauve
Thanks! Good catch! I don't remember seeing that before. Probably just forgot about it.
still heron
novel vector
frozen crest
What are you going to use for team 3 and 4?
probs scarlet then raku
still heron
Lets goooooo
hasty scaffold
still heron
<:rowhale:665796982094430208>
First time top 20
hasty scaffold
Grats
hasty scaffold
You're back in TS! Grats on round of 8 for championship btw
Thanks! I didn't think I was gonna get there, too many whales. Thought you were gonna beat me xD
vale imp
Nah, haven't I said you beat me every time we match up? Lol. Anyway, gratz on making it that far
hasty scaffold
Nah, I literally said fu----- when I saw your name lol
vale imp
🤣🤣 that was my reaction to your name
novel vector
My brother
idle monolith
100%??
Ainz team in slot 1 and Lucretia cycle comp in slot 2 with Haelus. I didn't win 100%, I think it's ranking location, right?
novel vector
Ik that means you're at the very bottom
sacred notch
Ainz team in slot 1 and Lucretia cycle comp in slot 2 with Haelus. I didn't win ...
Don't run cycle this early
Use alna luc
With silas ferael and athalia/oden back line
idle monolith
Ik that means you're at the very bottom
🤣🤣
idle monolith
With silas ferael and athalia/oden back line
Will adjust to this, thx
still heron
first time? <:ardenS:574677455089172482>
Yeah first time and its an easy Region
shell jungle
Only use athalia if she's infested
infested athalia!
shell jungle
Yeah first time and its an easy Region
🐳🐳🐳
restive goblet
You probably just started late then or something
wide wasp
Can someone build me 2 teams, 3teams, and 4 teams?plz
quartz salmon
Can someone build me 2 teams, 3teams, and 4 teams?plz
2 teams: AAA mortas and maybe rowan? / LucGBS
and him waiting to see whats best for 3 teams, probably going to be the same + Scarlet Lyca Raine Estrilda Mishka
carmine shale
Can someone explain why raine is in scarlet burst? Why not athane if you have him? Or some other support, idk.
wide wasp
2 teams: AAA mortas and maybe rowan? / LucGBS
and him waiting to see whats best...
what is 3rd A?
arthur?
carmine shale
Yes^
restive goblet
Can someone explain why raine is in scarlet burst? Why not athane if you have hi...
So Scarlet can ult at like 1:27
steady hill
i hate this buff
hasty scaffold
Next buff is going to be fun xD cause it’s new
sacred notch
with book it happens anyway?
Arti doesn't matter in TS
wide wasp
Arti doesn't matter in TS
Oh
granite mason
I want the previous buff
granite mason
molten sparrow
Can anyone help me make treasure scramble teams?
ivory zinc
Psst @steady hill 👉👈🥺
frozen crest
steady hill
big F
indigo epoch
Hard region and no woke heroes
storm moth
being a pleb in a whale region is hard u know
what region are you 
steady hill
what region are you <:badensweat:733092948433961031>
50
storm moth
oof
still heron
Hard region and no woke heroes
Hey rhino, whats ur rank ?
still heron
Nice
indigo epoch
Nice, gl . Reward calc is at 4-5 teams
still heron
Good luck for u too
storm moth
top 50 
storm moth
how significant of a different was mortas 20 for your ainz comp?
it was merlin that really helped tbh
but mortas also gave me a little boost last season
quaint isle
Does this cycle has a same debuff as 2 cycles ago? My ranking seems dropped a lot despite of using same teams
obtuse mauve
Does this cycle has a same debuff as 2 cycles ago? My ranking seems dropped a lo...
Did you set your pets?
quaint isle
Damn, I think I have visual bug, last cycle I did set pet but can’t find a place for pet this cycle I thought they stopped it
solemn sage
Yeah, if you updated client then things are really buggy/laggy right now
pet menu can take a while to show up
storm moth
another 5k dia when
quaint isle
What’s wrong with Lilith buggy updates lately
frozen crest
so am i
shut vessel
Same
steady hill
top 50 <:rakuhmm:849044246342533120>
damn if thats in my region you’ll be 50% 
ngl theres so many whales in my region but few of them actually plays optimally and smart
civic sage
top 50 <:rakuhmm:849044246342533120>
Have you tried Ferael instead of Daimon
storm moth
Have you tried Ferael instead of Daimon <:rakuhmm:849044246342533120>
no not really
he has shit gear
should i?
i can also try grez back row for now @civic sage
civic sage
i can also try grez back row for now <@407156479934726155>
Don’t
storm moth
but alna lucy is front
civic sage
I would try Ferael instead of Daimon though
storm moth
okay
civic sage
but alna lucy is front
Your Alna is 309?
storm moth
yes 
civic sage
Just take out Grez then
still heron
The question is, is asta's Alna 309 ?
hasty scaffold
No leave Daddy Grez
civic sage
I would replace Athane in team 1
storm moth
Just take out Grez then
yeah its alna, lucy, oden, silas and fera now
civic sage
The question is, is asta's Alna 309 ?
civic sage
with L estrilda?
I mean, even Grez should do better there
storm moth
okay
civic sage
Athane is probably just diving into the enemy and feeding them the buff
still heron
<:unimpressedalna:813552756878606368>
Is that a no ?
storm moth
Is that a no ?
civic sage
frozen crest
sullen zenith
203E30 Joan is better than Arthur in Ainz comp in PvP? Or just for TS
still heron
203E30 Joan is better than Arthur in Ainz comp in PvP? Or just for TS
Im using her for both
sullen zenith
Im using her for both
Interesting. What's an optimal placement for Joan. Also I front of Ainz?
still heron
Interesting. What's an optimal placement for Joan. Also I front of Ainz?
Im using her frontline
sullen zenith
Im using her frontline
Thanks I'll try that!
lime zinc
Interesting. What's an optimal placement for Joan. Also I front of Ainz?
I just put her in front of Ainz for TS but in PvP you can try to put her facing something that won't stop her from charging
frozen crest
whale
storm moth
frozen crest
man i wish im in reg 68
novel vector
Wish I was in region 68
frozen crest
if only
vale imp
I'll trade spots, whatever region you're in for R69
novel vector
Let's all wish to be in region 68
vale imp
Although we're still missing a big kraken in the leaderboard, so it's not as scary as normal
frozen crest
he wants to trade
vale imp
yall are in r69 tho <:tiduslaugh:753009905065000960>
Yes, it's why I want to leave lol
Imagine how good I could do somewhere else
hasty scaffold
I want to move into a new region without @vale imp
vale imp
I want to move into a new region without <@673198565706694689>
Imma stalk you, there's no escaping
storm moth
imagine r69
vale imp
Complaining at #7 🤣
storm moth
smhh
vale imp
r420 sounds super chill ngl
storm moth
yeah
novel vector
Who wants to join me in region 56 tho
Where there's more people with badges than not
hasty scaffold
Rude and mean @vale imp. Beating up poor me
vale imp
Rude and mean <@673198565706694689>. Beating up poor me
Wait I won one?
Imma save that, today is the day I won
hasty scaffold
Yes cause you bully me all the time
vale imp
Only cuz you bully me first
novel vector
Do we only fight people in our region?
frozen crest
yes
hasty scaffold
In HoE, you can fight whoever
vale imp
too bad it's random or we could team up and beat up everyone else lol
civic sage
thanks <@407156479934726155>
Np 
twilit gulch
Pls R70 next TS and I get moved
quaint isle
The difference of pet is huge, can’t believe I wasted a day without pet because of visual bug 💀
storm moth
civic sage
<:isathumbsup:880561053287735407>
Btw I didn't actually mean put Grez in Team 1 🤣
Do you not have any other options?
storm moth
Btw I didn't actually mean put Grez in Team 1 🤣
you said that
civic sage
Probably Grezhul then
storm moth
what would you put if no estrilda?
out of anyone
i can put lyca front with rosa back
civic sage
what would you put if no estrilda?
I would've put my Atalene 
storm moth
storm moth
i mean it doesnt do too bad
civic sage
storm moth
but I think Grezhul is probably fine
who
civic sage
who <:belovedzikis:884583816910483506>
I would try Rowan perhaps 
Grezhul is solid considering other options though
storm moth
I would try Rowan perhaps <:kazThonk:592086052391485456>
so rowan for 50 battles okay
if good leave if no back to grez
still heron
I love ur Alna
civic sage
if good leave if no back to grez
civic sage
I love ur Alna
Go back to #classic-questions
storm moth
sacred notch
How u in questions all the time and still have Gwyn and vurk ascended
civic sage
enough of the no Alna jokes
storm moth
How u in questions all the time and still have Gwyn and vurk ascended
because i can 
gwyn was before i was here
and vurk was m+ before i was here
blame that gwyn on volkin
still heron
Go back to <#565578751715573770> <:unimpressedalna:813552756878606368>
Im good 
Lets talk about ur Alna
storm moth
worldly wedge
Yes but why when better support exists? Especially with this debuff
limpid horizon
Yes but why when better support exists? Especially with this debuff
Can u give an example i havent changed my ts comp for 2 months now first time i got kicked out of top 100 imma plan to change comps again
worldly wedge
Sonja? Hendrik? Estrilda? Orthros if he exists, all of those are excellent if semi built with AThane + Haelus
limpid horizon
Only estrilda
echo robin
need help with teams for treasure scramble, any recommendations??
lime zinc
Any better 4th team? I’ve got AThane but only 303 atm
LDV's better middle back
pastel kiln
10%...what is wrong??
pastel kiln
not pets here or what?
Ah I find the way to add pets...
lilith should give 1st rank for everybody for that bug...
sacred notch
My current setup
steady hill
novel vector
shut vessel
Cidlax Point difference is insane
storm moth
cidlax on sum different shit
steady hill
Mr Miyagi op indeed
civic sage
Maybe change back to Grez 
storm moth
Maybe change back to Grez <:thaneoof:667478962095521792>
i will try thane bc be was doing better than grez i think
frozen crest
10pts off of t100
bright light
damn, ainz so trash
storm moth
damn, ainz so trash
why no joa
she did really good for me
with merlin for ldv too
steady hill
replace 3rd team with burst
bright light
why no joa
I tried her in 2 teams without 3f, it was worse. I’ll try her now again with the 3f
steady hill
I tried her in 2 teams without 3f, it was worse. I’ll try her now again with the...
joan 3f op on ts
storm moth
joan 3f op on ts
my ainz on 74%
steady hill
my ainz on 74% <:babasmugga:987530405735444500>
your region is easy, mine has BnB, Ami, Kbrs ppl attacking me
we’re not the same
storm moth
smh i have evo wdym
steady hill
u take the W
storm moth
bright light
steady hill
nice
dawn tinsel
Planning this for my 4 team setup. Any suggestions on good 3, 4, 5 teams for my roster?
cinder cargo
10%...what is wrong??
I think you might have used the wrong set of teams for this debuff
oden gb isn't going to cut it when you're up against a plethora of awakened
storm moth
10%...what is wrong??
maybe no pets
shell jungle
Ah I find the way to add pets...
lilith should give 1st rank for everybody for t...
not a bug, you just didn’t add the pets
sacred notch
Nah it was a visual bug or glitch or whatever. I had it too. Fixed after manually updating the game
shell jungle
interesting
vale imp
yeah people showed the bug here, the box to add a pet was gone
cold gorge
Tips on ts teams? Other than 5gb idk what to run and I'm having trouble breaking top 10%
carmine shale
Not much choice there tbh, just build around your carrys
Scarlet burst/cycle
GBs
Lucretia
Dims comp(ainz)
Are all their own comps
And if needed for the 6 teams stage of TS, raku can be his own team too but not very effective without LDV
quartz salmon
10pts off of t100
What’s your 4th team? Break lucAGBs into two teams ?
frozen crest
What’s your 4th team? Break lucAGBs into two teams ?
raku
luc cycle on 5
ainz underperforming
quartz salmon
Ainz sucks with both de buffs now lol
civic sage
ainz underperforming
Swap JoA and Rowan and Rowan out for Arthur
Ainz is fine for both debuffs on newer regions
civic sage
None of his allies will enter the enemy battlefield on that team
His knock back with ult could be useful if limited options tho ig
quartz salmon
Ah yes i see
quartz salmon
I was thinking of doing that
And nemusi for ainz
By the way I dropped from t93 to 4% cause I forgot to edit this round... sad
steady hill
gib fix team 3
nocturne token
gib fix team 3
Lorsan 9f?
steady hill
Lorsan 9f?
i hab
nocturne token
Maybe better than eironn
hasty scaffold
hasty scaffold
Raku Smoku OTP
frozen crest
e+ twins front can work in this buff?
hasty scaffold
Risky because of the first kill buff to the enemy
tame briar
Ainz sucks with both de buffs now lol
Ainz with JoA is my second best team after athane. Top 50 in R50
tame hinge
t90
Does arthur do better than estrilda in the scarlet comp? Or is your estrilda not invested?
storm moth
Does arthur do better than estrilda in the scarlet comp? Or is your estrilda not...
not invested
L estrilda type of not invested
restive goblet
my scarlet team was at 26% wins last night after 42 fights 
quartz salmon
Ainz with JoA is my second best team after athane. Top 50 in R50
Damn, well my JoA needs engraving I should have done it yesterday. We’ll see the diff in wr
royal sorrel
JoA adds like 20% winrate to almost any team just thrown in. its so weird
lime zinc
Joan is pretty good
dawn tinsel
What investment does JoA need?
lime zinc
What investment does JoA need?
Min 20330 ig
storm moth
20930 would be cool
twilit gulch
3036100 would be better
still heron
No 4036 E100
twilit gulch
storm moth
No 4036 E100
true
dusk tundra
yea whatever
storm moth
tame briar
What investment does JoA need?
I've got her at 303e30 and she's doing well enough
storm moth
30 not really needed tbh
royal sorrel
30 is really overkill. even 9f is overkill, she doesn't generate PV fast enough to care about saving it. 203e30 is plenty
storm moth
9f isnt overkill
alpine grove
What are the best teams this season?
steady hill
2% r50
sacred notch
Same teams, 75th r62
tame briar
47th r50
old kettle
Can u still use joan without 3f or engraving? My furni luck been stinky
My ainz team dropped the WR a lil bit now at 4 teams so thinking of replacing Arthur with her if she can work without the furn
quaint isle
Does Healus M SI30 work in cycle comp guys?
granite mason
scarlet mishka sucks at this buff
storm moth
why is your estrilda back
granite mason
why is your estrilda back <:unimpressedalna:813552756878606368>
thought she's better backline
storm moth
opal bone
scarlet mishka sucks at this buff
She's not the best this buff but she still picks up a lot at 4 and 5 teams
hasty scaffold
She gives allies buff if she’s placed front line…….
granite mason
thats why im brain dead
wide wasp
Any change i can make? Or maybe new teams? Someone else gave me this teams btw
quartz salmon
Any change i can make? Or maybe new teams? Someone else gave me this teams btw
No LDV?
opal bone
Any change i can make? Or maybe new teams? Someone else gave me this teams btw
Skeepies doesn't understand that he can't make his teams better and has to accept that.
storm moth
2 team looks sus ngl
quartz salmon
Yeah t2 can definitely get better wr
I would put Astar Daimon front and slot in Kren instead of Thoran
quartz salmon
Ideally you want to put LDV mid but since you don’t have him just put whatever
stable pollen
Please put some emblems into a thane
quartz salmon
Even Athane is meh ish ok
wide wasp
Please put some emblems into a thane
3 silver more for +10 and almost at +20
stable pollen
Awesome that'll help your winrate a lot
quartz salmon
You could put Eironn mid for T2 aswell, fits in ok ish with Astar raku
Probably better than +10 a thane
quartz salmon
Your other wr are really good, I don’t know how you got 44% on ainz
I have the same team and wr is 20% 
wide wasp
Your other wr are really good, I don’t know how you got 44% on ainz
most of the time its mid 30-s
quartz salmon
Yeah ok that’s already closer to have I have
- you have e60 and mine is e44 which probably make a decent diff
So for t2 I would do Astar Daimon Kren Eironn Raku
In order
But eironn is kinda sus maybe ask Asta what’s better
wide wasp
So for t2 I would do Astar Daimon Kren Eironn Raku
astar front?
quartz salmon
Yeah works fine iirc
opal bone
So for t2 I would do Astar Daimon Kren Eironn Raku
That's sus team. Should 100% be Talene front over that Eironn.
That Eironn will tank your wr
quartz salmon
That's sus team. Should 100% be Talene front over that Eironn.
So astar back and A Talene front I guess
wide wasp
i still have a thoran
quartz salmon
ATalene is better than Thoran imo
quartz salmon
I think so yeah
wide wasp
I think so yeah
thnx
frozen crest
ainz underperforming
did worse after edit, revert and is 5 pts away from t100
novel vector
Ouch
frozen crest
prayge i get it
storm moth
10 points from t100
frozen crest
just give in to the temptation and buy ldv
frozen crest
that's 1 euro a day
you spend more than 1 euro a day on your meals
just starve and buy dlv
novel vector
I'm t100 without using lvd rn
novel vector
You saw my winrate
storm moth
sullen zenith
What's the best 5th hero in Ainz, Joan, Albedo, Merlin team?
Mortas or Ezio
or somebody else
steady hill
try both cause it depends on luk
sullen zenith
Ok thanks
hasty scaffold
His damage is meh when he is not 309e60
quartz salmon
just starve and buy dlv
I dont understand why hes not listening to you
royal sorrel
should i be satisfied with top 20% as a dude without extensive pvp teams
storm moth
I dont understand why hes not listening to you
stfu 
storm moth
should i be satisfied with top 20% as a dude without extensive pvp teams
show teams
royal sorrel
im gonna start plummetting now that more teams are coming out
storm moth
ngl from these 4 teams it looks like you can make some decent teams
like alna gbs, scarlet team, ainz, some type of cycle maybe
also where is furn for grez
and investment on scarlet
and on ainz
royal sorrel
acc is new and still getting feathers
royal sorrel
while 3f for farael, raku, joan, alna, rosa, rowan, mehira, and skriath have all happened
storm moth
sacred notch
who told you to put rowan on furn wl
royal sorrel
it was an open slot and i was still dumb
sacred notch
i assume its because raine teams up with misha instead of scarlett because higher CR
wait, mehira furn tf
storm moth
wait, mehira furn tf <:tidussnout:877581327447248896>
where
sacred notch
mosica talking about their furn above
sacred notch
unless that was a misspell
royal sorrel
i might have the wrong names, it wss from memory
but several target 3fs have come and gone was the point
twilit gulch
How should I switch up my luc team? Cycle?
sacred notch
mehira is the hypo charmer lady
restive goblet
i assume its because raine teams up with misha instead of scarlett because highe...
Nope she targets Scarlet. 19% now lol. My Abrutus team carried my other teams to where they can’t compete
royal sorrel
right. young'n'dumb, live'n'learn
sacred notch
thats just unlucky then, my scar team hasnt dropped below like 45%
quartz salmon
stfu <:isabellarage:666453493124694026>
Bro just get your priorities in order smh
storm moth
smh
quartz salmon
Just got Raine 3f Mishka 9f Oden 9f and Daimon 9f, hoping to see a lil wr diff newt rotation
45k Poe no whaling 
storm moth
daimon 9f
storm moth
sacred notch
im convinced free will is a bad thing
quartz salmon
Lmao
royal sorrel
turning things back, how can i fix the 5% comp? ik it sucks, redo the whole list if needed
quartz salmon
He was 8f before I joined the server and realised my mistake, it triggered me
I had to do it
quartz salmon
turning things back, how can i fix the 5% comp? ik it sucks, redo the whole list...
What team is that
royal sorrel
quartz salmon
If you don’t have Albedo +30 ainz will just suck ass
royal sorrel
kind of noticed
quartz salmon
Don’t you have raku?
royal sorrel
3 copy 😂
quartz salmon
Argh shit
royal sorrel
yeah thats me. too many teams not enough dps carries
i fall off hard around now in the season cuz of it
quartz salmon
Are you doing Albedo si next or other shit to do before hand?
royal sorrel
got other shit like grez 9f and lucy to fuel
quartz salmon
What about si
granite mason
Put rowan in team 2
royal sorrel
finishing off alna si29 atm
royal sorrel
mmm. im going to struggle to garrison bedo, keep ainz up, and have enough saved for geralt, even assuming i buy yen
thou ainzbedo might push campaign too? would they?
quartz salmon
I wouldn’t garrison them with exchange, cause you need bedo for ainz to work
quartz salmon
thou ainzbedo might push campaign too? would they?
Yeah but only with bedo +30
I think you should save coins/stones while you get 300 reds
royal sorrel
yeah when esperia noble nears completion ill buy a +30
storm moth
Something like this? Not sure what to put for 5th spot so added kren
do you have desira or skreg?
quartz salmon
Isn’t twins front kinda risky this buff
storm moth
you could try skreg for that kren
royal sorrel
thats just better to fuel lucy?
storm moth
Isn’t twins front kinda risky this buff
cycle is risky for this debuff ngl
storm moth
thats just better to fuel lucy?
nah because first kill this buff = win most of the time
yeah works for me kinda
quartz salmon
thats just better to fuel lucy?
Hm nah lucy +30 is probably better than doing bedo
royal sorrel
ngl i havent been analyzing the fights, just tweaking comps on synergies
royal sorrel
Hm nah lucy +30 is probably better than doing bedo
true after alna i was going to uss them on my budding lucretia (L+, m soon)
sage badger
WR’s are struggling this time around dropped from top 2% to 6% in a day. Any suggestions?
novel vector
WR’s are struggling this time around dropped from top 2% to 6% in a day. Any sug...
Do you have ezio or Atalene built
civic sage
im gonna start plummetting now that more teams are coming out
Why on earth do you have JoA e30 
royal sorrel
because i make undereducated, uninformed decisions based off incomplete information?
idk what a proper answer to that is
civic sage
civic sage
@royal sorrel try and be smarter with future investments though
royal sorrel
that's... why i'm here
novel vector
Even e80 Lucy can't handle the brother
ivory zinc
WR’s are struggling this time around dropped from top 2% to 6% in a day. Any sug...
Swap mortas for arthur, this round the team who gets a kill first gets a huge dps buff
granite mason
earnest phoenix
Yeah I've been 2% for the past 48 hours and somehow in the last 10 fights I've dropped to 6%
solemn sage
Someone was speculating that lilith simplifies matchmaking by doing it in groups
so e.g. you'll do 10 fights with the same group of players
then based on new rank you'll get a new group
so you got into rank 38 -> group for next set of fights was whales
explains the rank see-saws that seem to happen
restive goblet
Part of it is also that my teams are very top heavy. My Brutus team has 97% WR and it would get a lot of points from beating higher ranked teams. After everyone ranked above me moved up a division, he stopped being able to give me big score boosts and now if I win 2 and lose 2 I end up losing points
And my scarlet is at 17% now lmao
solemn sage
I'm at 23 right now, might actually get top 20 on reward day for first time
despite my burst team doing awful
Should have gone with my gut and put lorsan instead of morael
mellow osprey
Any recommended swaps to push me into top 100? I don't have any awakened heroes above mythic, so they probably wouldn't work.
earnest phoenix
Try swapping ldv and astair
storm moth
Any recommended swaps to push me into top 100? I don't have any awakened heroes ...
joa for arthur would help prob
mellow osprey
LDV in the Astar comp and Joan in the ainz comp?
Does Joan want front line or back line? I've got her maxed but never really used
earnest phoenix
joan albedo ainz merlin astar, zol mish lyca ldv raku
mellow osprey
Ah in place of Arthur. Kk I'll try that
restive goblet
back line typically, but she can do either. She’ll usually reach the other wall sooner if you put her back line since she charges whoever is opposite her
sudden night
Is M AThane good anywhere?
mellow osprey
Any recommendations for a fifth team? These are the only heroes I don't have ascended, so pretty much anyone else is fair game (though Audrea isn't engraved yet, so she probably won't be much help).
sudden night
sage badger
Do you have ezio or Atalene built
a talene 309 not A*
foggy olive
bright light
Op
storm moth
fading osprey
I didn't think it could get this low
storm moth
scarlet in cycle is a big no no in ts
fading osprey
It always worked well except this time
wide wasp
scarlet in cycle is a big no no in ts
Mine is at 88%
worldly wedge
We're on burst round so scarlet cycle is actively bad
frozen crest
tame briar
11 fights. that team had 1 battle i assure u
No it lost all 11
royal sorrel
dmn they really sukk
steady hill
gosh this buff sux, 6% atm
sacred notch
Currently 48th
vale imp
@hasty scaffold what are you running for 5-6? Also, I'm having better luck with ABrutus dims than an ainz team, but idk how your talene team is doing cuz my Atalene/skreg team is a POS
hasty scaffold
I was planning cycle but it would prolly be bad too?
Yeah Talene Skreg not good. I put A Brutus to help still around 40%
vale imp
My Abrutus dim is at 92%, but that Atalene/skreg team is only 20% so not sure what kind if pickup you would see
Figure since we are running within 20 points of eachother each time you would see similar, maybe get better results from dims
Probably going to try cycle at 6 I guess, maybe with scarlet? It's hard to pull luc from alna since it tanks when I pull her
Idk how grez is doing this buff but it sounds like he isn't fast enough
hasty scaffold
I don’t know why this season I’m now fighting against the 2 krakens. I can’t remember fighting them before. I just get murdered
vale imp
Well I saw I hit you hard, so I figured I'd tell you how my teams are doing
Ffs, if Steve and that ai asian person went elsewhere we could just trade 1 and 2 back and forth I swear lol
Although I think the guy in 3 gave me some hard hits as well
hasty scaffold
Oh yeah no 3 is also almost e80s
solemn sage
idk about at top 10, but at 20-30 atalene dims is good enough (85%)
frees brutus for a 60% team
little folio
Finished 13th
hasty scaffold
idk about at top 10, but at 20-30 atalene dims is good enough (85%)
With or without Ainz?
solemn sage
With or without Ainz?
no ainz
hasty scaffold
Thanks! Don't have OG Talene and Anasta lacking furniture 
granite mason
limpid horizon
On that thane comp whats the best sub for orthos?
lime zinc
On that thane comp whats the best sub for orthos?
Sonja
vale imp
neither of my talenes have e60, which is painful for using them in ts
sacred notch
Where my fellow f2p's at
lime zinc
Mine always shows as 'top 4%' because I'm at like 2.1% and not technically top 2% lol
gloomy lichen
Got t59 sadly
tidal ember
Could anyone help me with the best team comps for TS, for what I got
low iron
Still managing to stay in the top 100 with jank.
frozen crest
o dam, drez carrying
icy surge
I guess it deppends by your zone at all
lime zinc
idk what I should be running instead of Scarlet
Oh right cycle sucks too, so I have 2 teams that need fixing
frozen crest
gonna try luc5p
lime zinc
My Scarlet is getting 17% and standard Luc cycle is at 20%
frozen crest
my scarlet somehow got high wr after ave 40-50 lol
vale imp
My luc/Alna is getting 60, without her I'm expecting 30 so I'm not pulling her for cycle. Maybe later
still heron
My cycle is at 48%
lime zinc
Somehow my Alna GBs got a higher WR after I took Luc out, my WRs have been so weird
still heron
My Alna+GB is at 42%
lime zinc
still heron
lime zinc
Probably Atha carrying my GBs
still heron
I think so
frozen crest
My luc/Alna is getting 60, without her I'm expecting 30 so I'm not pulling her f...
how so low wr if we both at same division and region?
vale imp
how so low wr if we both at same division and region?
I'm in top 10, come swim with the kraken lol
lime zinc
It's within division but preferential to those near your points
frozen crest
oh, that makes more sense
vale imp
When you go up to the next bracket it's only those who are there as well
So when I hit 6 teams it's probably only 10-20 of us
lime zinc
Yeah, you need to be super strong to survive constantly matching up against the same people at an early bracket jump
vale imp
Then wr will go up throughout the day
It's pretty ugly tbh
Then it gets better when the pool gets bigger
If I'm lucky there's a bunch of us who move up at once
lime zinc
idk wtf I'm supposed to run when I don't have AwThane or AwBrutus 
vale imp
What would you be running if you had them
frozen crest
sounds like ass for whales kekw
vale imp
For me that's ainz and budget burst
lime zinc
I'd probably run them in the other comps because my ainz and burst are doing ok (they're at ~50% but my 4th and 5th are <30%), that AwThane + supports and AwBrutus invade
vale imp
My invade team is horrible, but the Thane team is good
lime zinc
100th place in my region still has 3 engraved Awakeneds lol
novel vector
novel vector
What I'll be using. Yes I'll have Atalene si30 by then lol
Which awakened buff should I use btw?
sullen zenith
Is Yenn better than Mortas in Ainz comp?
steady hill
Is Yenn better than Mortas in Ainz comp?
u dont know unless you try
sullen zenith
u dont know unless you try
I guess I'm asking here if anyone's tried it
dusk tundra
finished top100 pog im now going to shoot myself
novel vector
Do you have Hendrick?
sage badger
Do you have Hendrick?
what’s hendricks min investment for this
novel vector
Si10 tbh
sage badger
sick lmao
novel vector
Si30 gives him more beef and his 3f gives extra defense to allies but I have neither and he's been working for me
sage badger
gotcha gotcha
novel vector
Yeah you can beef up your carry with his 3f
sage badger
i’m missing a built orthos for the Athane comp 😦