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Also focus on your rank not your winrate cause higher rank = lower winrate for same teams
yeah i’m top 4% rn but if i can make it better why not?
perfectly balanced
as all things should be
Why Athalia on that 2nd team
Wouldn't she potentially steal the buff from Abrutus?
that's fine
athalia with buff is very strong too
choosing which hero gets the buff is much less important than making sure your team is the one that gets it
and looking at replays ABrutus is consistently getting 6x the damage of athalia so pretty sure he's getting it still
this is the plan for 3 teams, is M athalia and M brutus worth running?
I think 300 Abrutus is better than Arthur from what I was told
my abrutus is only 200 rn
no ;-;
Hmm
he’s the next garrison
i have 1 more month of queen then she’s perm
i can throw in my 200 mortas tho
The main issue is that ldv might steal the buff from ainz or Abrutus
yeah i can throw him out
again that doesn't matter
if you're getting the buff with that team, whoever it's on you're probably gonna win
gotcha, should i swap abrutus out for anyone in specific then?
I wouldn't put out an M hero early on at 3 teams. Maybe you can get away with it at 6/7 teams later
right, should i just throw in aurther then?
That's fine
👍🏻👍🏻 ty
Corn knows the threshold
@nocturne token when does Abrutus become a better choice than Arthur
Best 3rd team? Ainz or cycle?
I'm splitting burst and Athane
for 3
if you have joan then best 3 is probably abrutus dims, athane burst, luc alna
best third team...whale comp for sure 😉
day 1
F2p friendly
lmao
this ts is very tough
Alna Lucretia Athalia 8% win rate ,thats rough... I didn't expect it to be weak with this buff
Is luc alna gb better than normal alna gb? Luc doest do much from what ive seen
Way better. Grez does nothing
You need strong Athalia
I think that's just a display bug when you hit a new tier
And the number of battles is the battles before you hit that tier?
Mine's showing 3 battles at least, but zero of the replays are 3 team
My Scarlett team is getting bullied
it's not a display bug. you can tab over to see results from previous tier within that 12hr cycle
Oh I meant the 0% but I didn't notice their ss had a 50%
It’s 0% because they lost both battles after entering 3 teams.
Mine has all 3 at 0% but no battles shown though
Didn't realise theirs was diff to mine, is what I meant

burst comp not op ?
You have no hero that can kill someone quickly for the buff. Your Zaph is too weak
And what the hell estrilda doing there
She's doing her best

WTF?! Thank you RNG gods just don't break my heart later 
Poe is screwing me I need Abrutus 9f
3 teams took me from 14% to 68. First day's rng is tough 
any way to make this team better? 
only 8%
which is better that team 3 or the scarlet wilder team
I'd try LDV back mid, Lucretia instead of Grez. 3rd team not sure, but Scarlet burst is doing about the same as AlnaLuc for me.
Oden or Fereal in Alna + Lucretia Athalia for this round? I feel like Fereal damage reduction barely helps when the enemy starts ramping up kills
Oden imo because of damage increase buff
I just ruined my treasure scramble by putting Scarlett in cycle
My zolrath team is getting wacked

Yeah for 3 team I might swap in my scarlet team...
I've never had a team perform at 15% lmao
Works okay im on the top 4%
Holy shit I threw so hard
Scramble needs to reset already so I can fix this
Why has this cycle lasted so long
Cycle ended a few hours ago though.
bruh i wanted to run cycle at 5 teams
It has just ended?
It ended like 2 hours ago for me.

Is anyone without a whale/old account running cycle Lucy? How did it do?
Or 5p Lucy?
Lucy is better in gb comp with alna
Cycle is used like in 5th team
Well at least I will
Well
Scarlet isn't doing as well as I would hope to
day 2
first half 11 rounds same as day 1, 90% each
Jumped up 6% since I've fixed my Scarlett team
what did you fixed?
Scarlet cycle works this season?
show comp
Maybe on newer regions
More a statement of surprise than a question
yea cycle sux
Does anyone know the exact time round 2 of TS starts each day?
I think it's in 2 or 3 hours from now but not certain.
If you go to "Adjust your team formations" you should be able to see what time the teams start scrambling

ultra kraken
We be rising
What are your fixed comps @novel vector ?
Nothing crazy. Up to 80th now
Scarlett in cycle was at like 10%
I used the same 3 teams. Yesterday i got to rank 70 then drop to 8% then today got up to 2%
Very weird
I was in the top 50 then sank to 8% bc of cycle
I'm kinda scared to put Lucretia in it

I was getting ~30% using scarlet wilders so I swapped back to LDV Zol
But I kinda have to run cycle at 4 team onwards anyway
4%
@dusk tundra what are you running
Hmm
Going to try LDV in dims with Brutus because I have 0 in sorc tree rn 😜
I dont have Orthos or Zaph built
Is your zol strong?
I was thinking about putting Abrutus in cycle to salvage it lmao
Even with 0 tree Zaph does great
I think that could work
ABrutus flexible
I can just put Arthur back in dim comp
Oof
Back down to 2%
I'll put zol in Scarlett team also
Yes ik Haelus is missing furn, I'm trying my best not to buy poe coins
I have whale comps so idk anything about using scarlet or Raku
Not even using cycle for 7th team
I was joking about Raku
I see people talking about ldv raku comp all the time
Also how is Scarlett not in the whale comp
She’s inconsistent and takes the good heroes from better comps
Hmm
I rather use Estrilda Lyca and Mishka with AThane and burst
This round burst is so strong and she’s already frail. She’s decent for other buff
So like skreg rush would be better?
I might have to build Zaph next so I can have a burst team on hand
My plan for 6 teams
Strong Zaph is huge for this buff. For other buff he’s a good hero but not hugely noticeable. Maybe Eironn can be used over him
Skreg can be ok teams but need good hero investment
Personally I’d build 4 solid teams before worrying about 5, 6, 7
AThane, ABrutus, AlnaLucy, and Burst seem to be the best teams
Do u have ldv? Sort of burst with ldv + raku work quite well
He's 209
Lorsan without his 9f worth it?
I'll try these out
Might put Estrilda in Abrutus but idk
I need to get a well built AwThane for my 4th team to not suck, cya in like 4 months 
I feel like LDV burst sucks at 3 team but 4 team and later it's a pretty nice budget alternative to Zaph
LDV + Raku sucks at 4 team for me in my bracket
It might work for you just test it
It's probably still one of the better options to use
Considering we don't have much choice
I can replace one with Estrilda
Could you run that Flora AwBrutus comp?
My Flora is mythic
Ah
And I'm pretty sure I don't have anyone else needed for it lol
Anta would be way worse but probably still works
I'm guessing Abrutus can carry any team I put him in so I'm not really worried about him
Probably lol, was just wondering if you could optimise it with currently owned
I've been trying to make Raku + LDV work with different variations. All seem to suck. I've fallen off Top 10 because it's tanking me. It might need a Zolrath for it to work. I don't know
LDV raku def needs Lyca and Zol
So you can't really run it if those are needed for other comps
Yeah that's what I thought. Don't have Zolrath built right now. Just gazing last copy of twins for 1 star then maybe I can gaze him
For Daimon and M AwTalene frontline though, that's more than I'd expect
You might be able to put Lyca Mishka with LDV and go for the tanks + AwThane comp for other
I wonder if Morael Invade is not complete garbage without Frampton
Frampdn
rip
Rip so hard that the images aren't loading
I think Scarlet needs to take Raine buff on that team. Your Mishka is probably stealing it.
It's not doing great for me regardless lol
Cycle also sucks this buff
From my experience, Scarlet does not perform well on that team without Lyca
But also Scarlet on this season isn't as strong as the other one
My AE tree is messing with my winrates pretty hard but still top 30 somehow
Previous buff is a lot better if you don’t have Abrutus/Athane 
My Atalene was actually good last debuff 
i feel like this TS is more whale heavy
I don't get this game sometimes
I know ABrutus team is stonks
but 3 heroes on that teem have 0 tree right now
It favors teams with bigger investments. They can kill faster or they're harder to kill
and still my highest winrate by far
Who would be the main damage dealer
How could I miss that
The other 4 teammates are there to hold him back
Raku LDV, just like I said before 
Why isn't LDV in Ainz team 
He is carrying every single Ainz win for me
Mortas works fine in 4 teams

There's an old comp with Skreg/Estrilda/Tidus/Morael/Ceci
But it sounds pretty garbo lol
I’m running LDV Raku instead of cycle but I’m in a new region
You have Zolrath?
No
Oh? What's the full comp? My LdV Raku is getting spanked. I've tried many variations
Atalene Astar Raku LDV Kren
It’s kind of scuffed and my worst WR but I usually get t50 with it
I am only t100 this time around though 
Hmm maybe I'll try it at 5 or 6 teams. Right now, it's not working for me 😭
gonna try this now hope this will work
L Atalene work? Also astar investment minimum?
I might, this is sad. 
Hopefully I keep hovering lower top 100 so my 3 good teams maintain high win rate.
What is that Team 2 
Random BS go? 
I think that'd probably do better than what you have
just leave Team 2 empty and you'll get a better formation
I never knew we put Thoran in Raku comp 

Isn't it best for Leo to be mid in t4?
He's best in dim comp
Oh nvm I get what you mean

I have like 380 time cards, do I gaze Brutus or Solise purely for Treasure Scramble? I have enough cores for e30 and e60, but only 3 red furniture cards. Is it worth it or wait for Awakened GB?
I realize I need some lucky pulls with 380 cards lmao
That's probably enough for M
Prob just wait for Awk GB
The chances of you ascending either are slim
I'd wait for the GB
I know it won't happen, but what if awakened GB is Grez O_o
@civic sage I've ditched LdV Raku and what do you know, am back at Top 10 xD

I had to get rid of dead weight, it was really bringing me down. I just rearranged stuff and just happy it worked
finally my team is doing it..
from 8% to 4%
congrats
Success seems vary region specific. My region hasn’t figured it out yet lol
my region is kinda 50/50 on the smart and dumb side
I'm still at 4%. sad
Abruts trying to carry cycle lol. It is a lot better than the other team
I was getting rank 80-100 in other cycles and now I have a brutus ascended so im pushing top 30
There's a giant amount of RNG for your rank before the final few days
Also hard to tell what teams are most effective because if you succeed with those teams early on you get put into brackets with higher end spenders
thoughts?
just pulled Athane from comp 4 and put in raine, that team had a 95% WR, while the others are struggling a bit more. my burst comp is struggling, but getting there
from 2 to 4%
Will Zolrath instead of Atalene work better?
Normally it runs Zol
It's not very good this time round though, even with Zol
I've tried Raku Ldv without Zol. It's very very low winrate
I think my overall winrate is better with LDV on dims
lorsan or kren will be better? anyways why scarlet team thrash again
Well in your case there's also a problem where your mishka is probably higher cr
So raine buffs mishka
yea im going for 5A e60 for that reason
Zol is the better variant yes, I just don’t have him
But which one is better that with zolrath or with zolrath instead atalene and lorsan instead kren
This is a decent variant
Zol/Mish/Raku/LDV/Lyca is the standard one
I don’t think Atalene is that strong this rotation. But I use her just cuz 
cuz whale
If I’m to ascend only one of them, aBrutus or aThane? Focusing on TS.
Brutussy
i think athane has more coverage on TS
idk tho
but Abrutus has more use in general
A Brutus = A Thane for me. Both can carry, it's a matter of preference
I’m on a pretty fresh region if that matters, R68. Not very developed as far as pvp only units go
What can I replace team 4 with? it's what holding me back aat top 8% lol
Zolrath Astar Raku LDV Lorsan
i'll give it a go, thanks
Same team here
my last team is slacking pretty hard.. suggestions?
Is Raine accidently buffing Mishka?
damn lol
is it worth taking off a piece of gear maybe?
Take Mishka's artifact off and give Scarlet the highest rating artifact you have
probably WoTA
removing it did the trick
Does that still work even in TS? Thought this mode didn't use artifacts
oh well nvm then, 👍
well removing it did the trick for power idk if it’ll actually work
I would think their artifacts CP wouldn't be given in TS but I could very well be wrong. That's just what would make sense to me
ig there’s no real way to check but wait ¯_(ツ)_/¯
I guess so!
y’all think astar e30 or zolrath e30 better priority for TS?
just got my athane to e60 and healus to e30, so working on his e60 as we speak
zolrath has si30 and astar doesn’t
both are 5/9 for furn
That usually works in CR for me
They are both decent prio e30s
Those 2 are higher prio than Silas/Alna/Merlin/Albedo engraves
¯_(ツ)_/¯ just got my zolrath and astar to a* recently
Part 1 rewards. Top 10 first time 
nice job
Thanks 
whale 
No u 
Sad
Lol
Does anyone find mid season ranking a lot more brutal and harder than at the end of the season?
yes. coz of all those awaken heroes
Late season it's easier to win, because people don't have as many good teams; but also hard because you yourself probably don't have good teams 5-7 lol
So I caved in and went with Brutus but obviously didn't have enough cards so he's stuck on Mythic, did get his signature up to 30... I thought he'd be useful but 4% win rate after 50 games lmaoooo
My scarlet and ldv team usually ~30% lmoa
Although ainz and GBs doing that poorly is ripp
Actually LDV burst doing pretty well at 5 team but that's with Lyca and Mishka :L
Anyone here whale this event? Stuck top 19
If you're top 19 that's really all that matters for T4 gear every 5 days 🙂
top 19 is whale
top 10 for the medal
Top 100 for gold medal top 10 for red medal top1 for platinum medal or whatever that blue one is
Vip 17 ask who's whale 
Don't mean any disrespect 👍
its rlly not that big
2% region 1
which is better?
Probably mishka. But i think lyca will work better
Not burst expert tho
I've heard a few people mention an ldv/raku comp is there one that is considered a good meta comp?
Ldv Raku is not meta
That's just for budget players who don't have stuff built out
Ldv raku works at region55 at least
who to sub raku with?
Mishka + Astar
Lyca
thank you
gonna try this now hope it works
Any good Lucretia team that's separate from GB?
Couldn't get my team 4 to do well until I realized Astar wasn't on the crystal and was lvl 1. Big difference lol.
I’m trying invade
Thanks I'll try that too. So Lucretia, Skreg...then Antandra, Tidus...and Kren? Not sure what makes a good TS invade
whos the best in cycle this debuff
Bruh
No way that team 4 works
Imma try that
its 4 battles chill
nub
What does invade look like
i think 5th team here
👆
I was gonna try using pippa and Brutus and hope he gets a kill
Can I do Abrutus instead of Lucretia
Yes
She's busy holding down cycle atm
I also wanted to try out that 4th team Ronin had. But idk if it's working due to region or not
Gotcha that's an expensive invade
I might try Luc cycle 
fair still 4%
Btw Raku op this scramble
Scarlett bad this scramble
i dont have anything to use rip
what invade looks like

Mainly for your team 5 lol
Your Scarlett team should be fine rn
imma try that
Joan can be exchanged in a few days, I bet she gonna shake up the win rate for low spenders and f2p 
Doubt it
low spenders and f2p are competing with eachother, not with whales
them all getting joan is the same as none of them having joan
That's assuming minnows/f2p have resources to accommodate her once they exchange lol
suggestions on how to bump up the WR a little? 6%
Oof Ezizh dragging that cycle down. Try placing him behind Lucretia. It works for me
Also I don't know if it's worth using haelus before any of the breakpoints
9f 30si or e60
i think that position is fine. just haelus is too weak. maybe skreg 209 subs
Or deseria
Cycle is gonna struggle regardless this buff, so it's mainly about stopping as much blood loss
💳
Ty
It’s just numbers on a screen at this point

i hope my 6th team survive the slaughter
oops sorry i stepped away :/ my deseria is only 203 e0 and yeah ezizh is def bringing it down
i have L ezizh as well still works fine at t100 r55. but my other heroes r built tho
i’m about 60 red chests and 1k cores away (after misty) from si 30 and e60, but 3/9 for furn. i swear i haven’t gotten any thane or healus furn i. the last 3 red furn cards
i’m in r12 rn
Wait we're already on the 6th team?
i am this rotation
im sort of try to break burst team into 2 teams. hopefully not failing too bad
i’m close to 6th team rn
I’d be very surprised if team 4 dies well
That just looks like random bs go 😂
I'd take mishka out of there and put her in burst or smth
mishka used to be in scarlet comp. let see my ranking first.
wonder how far it will drop
What about this. looks better?
saurus thrash
@sacred notch better than nothing. At least my rank is around the same
No engraving on kren?
Keep this line up. Maybe switch out Queen and Skriath for somebody else. I doubt they’re doing much
Brutus really hurting this buff without his 9/9. Antandra, Tidus, Kren (replace in that order) not great for PvP. Do you have Estrilda, Anoki, Talene, Alaro, Hodgkin, Athalia, Orthros, or Mezoth?
@dusk tundra can u gib a good lucy invade comp no orthos, atha, mezoth, alaro, talene, anoki
I’m not really sure tbh. You’ll just have to mix and match
i hope someone will post a f2p ts comps somewhere
It will be different depending on region
yea my region is hard lmao
Not anytime soon
My Ainz comp 87% 😎
Just have team 6 lay down and die f
yeah tru
Back up to 2%
Og burst pulling through
I did not find a replay of them winning tho
Suggestions for Team 4
What region are you? Your welcome to try my teams as I am a f2p player also.
That team is still going strong. Might just be bc Raku is op but I will keep going with it.
4%..something to change ?

any guide on this or, wich path to choose as f2p?
team 6 basically a throwaway, but top 100
Do you have a Framton yet?
negative
🤔
Can you make a beefy invade team?
Your t6 will probably fold because Skriath dies too quickly.
I imagine Ezizh is the weak link in your T3 as well but with Luc being Luc she rngs victory.
Raku doesn't do anything I'm sure
that’s always one of my best
sometimes he does 0 dmg for me also, but the team still works well
Racoon luck
his S4 is rumored to last after death. I couldn't confirm it
He attacks from the grave
The passive portion, ya numpty

Racoon buff?
Does ldv cannon hit all 5 heroes with Skriath? Could be an option to replace Raku
LDV hit all even without skri if he's in pos 4
Oh I assumed just 3. Never paid attention
2%
Brother Brutia holding up better than I thought
@dusk tundra for the life of me I cannot pull Abrutus furn
I've pulled 4 Athalia furn in a row
Try moving everyone to low priority except one then ABrutus as high. See if that helps the rng
The priority thing doesn't effect furn summon at all
that’s not a thing
It's not, I am sorry I thought that was the point of it. Thanks for correcting me.
the priority is for when you already have thr furniture
… to allocate the legendary furn
Any ideas for 7th comp? Imma hit it next round. 💀
any suggestions besides random bullshit go for team 5?
I would replace AThane with LDV in slot 4 on team 6. Then turn team 5 into AThane comp with LB
what other LB would i use? I don’t have very many notable LBs left except rosaline and maybe gwyneth
My Thane LB comp. Estrilda is better here than Rosa here but I have her in MishScar comp
They're very low investment atm, but still works
Oof fell to 6% even though my winrate didn't drop hard
i fell to 4% with higher wr 
Yeah first time I've hit 6% in a long time
It's annoying tbh
I've been bouncing between 4 and 2%
I'd expect 3 of my teams to be at ~10% winrate for me to drop to 6%
But only my 6th team is at 13%
Wish I was at 4%. I have zero clue why I dropped so hard
Ended at 2%. So the game dropped me then brought me back
i need that top 100

dayum your region is easier than mine
yuh
how is your ts 
5952, 78 pts away from t100
no campaign push=no pulls=no alna
im so tired
soon you will push farther than me
i will try to push to 37 if i get my mishka furn
Any random bs ideas for 6-7th teams?
whale
I hate 7 teams >_<
Team 7 is tough. Mayb i will try dimensional bs team this round and hope for the best
Is Healus useful even with just 1 copy?
Another question, it has no relevance to me because I don't have Ezizh, but why do people use normal Ezizh and Twins Frontline in Scarlet cycle? What's the point of a squishy Ezizh going Frontline for hastebuff?
For PVP, don't think so
pvp no
oke
lmoa the "why is my TS winrate so high" into "oh it's for 3 fights"
I've been 50-60 the whole time and now I'm into the 90s with 20 games to go. This is rigged.

My % always jumps near the very end (thank god it changes in the good way lol)
nvm my team 7 is the most horrendous garbage I've ever seen
fuck 7 teams i agree
Agree on your agree

Team 4: I am the shittest team ever
Team 5: Bet
Team 6: Hold my beer
Team 7: What's a team?
Team 6 is like 20% but 7 is at 3 
25, 35, 12 for 5-7 
Smth like 40, 30, 20 for 456
18 battles left and 70 points from top 100
I'm 97 off top 100, def won't make it but I'll be happy if I make top 1%
i was 6.1% 
Surprising that my Scarlet wilders is at 68% rn
7 more matches, 7 more ways get f up :/
How can you tell battles left
The time remaining and the battles/hr oh I'm dumb
50- this
mine are all done already but it varies
Thanks
That one lol
early regions do battles earlier I think
yeah probably
I have 5 left then
since im in r68
I have no idea how I hit 2% last time I paid no attention at all lol
I'm 35 battles r16
I also have no idea how my wtf do I have left team 7 has a 20% win rate
so its random?
ffs I forgot that my 7-team LDV burst had kren in it still (was wondering why the winrate dropped 40%)
dw Kren can burst ....himself
I used him as well as I don't have any choice right now
My 7th team is random bs GBs and no one should use it lol
is that after 2 fights lol
Jumped from 8% to 2% in the last bracket thank you rng jesus 🙏🏻
Thanks 😁
its probably based on where you from
or old ss

Nice, got a top 2%
1.8% bruh
Same
I managed to get 97 at the last second, by 3 points
is top 30% in TS good? I honestly have no idea what to do in this mode
I think you should be aiming for around 2% for rewards. It's very likely you just need to follow meta comps to improve your rankings
Someone in ch41 with decent heroes just be getting 2-4% minimum, maybe even t100 depending on if you're on a newer server or not
I figured it's not good but I am uncertain how to build or even what the hell is going on most of the time lol
When the new season starts, ask in here and see what others are using for teams
ok sounds good because I do have the capability but was just completely lost in what to do in this event
It really is just a set it and forget it kinda event and reap the free rewards
dam thats lucky af
First time i reach top100 with this buff. I hope I can keep it next time...
it alternates between the two buffs
The two that I know of is the first kill and the repeated attacks
oh okay
And next is repeated attacks
I hate how in this last day before it switches we can look at the scramble intel for the last 50 fights
Everyone gay
ok
everyone's gay but you? sucks to be you

I finished top 51 last time... 🥲
I dropped to 1.8%
Did you just call your dad and your grandpa gay as well? Happy family 
We can put beasts next round right?
Ya!
Blessed my luck then
How do I play TS
u set teams u let heroes fite u get rewards
Well summarised
Can't find it 
cant find what
maybe you are not high enough
snort some purple coke
Probably 🥴
Is it just me or should Raku be really good with this buff?
@dusk tundra time to show us the whale teams
Shemira
Shemira
Since there’s only six beasts, one of our teams doesn’t get one on the last day?
for now, we'll get more beasts eventually
almost everyone just has a trash team for 7th anyways
But like what pet for what comp
I'm guessing elite pets will be useless except given stats
Maybe one if lucky and gotten to lvl 6
what's starting team this time? probably luc+gbs not sure about the second team
My saved teams from last time are luc alna gb and Scarlett
So how should my teams be configured and what kind of considerations should be given to the route you choose at the beginning does that hold any significance I have no idea. Just trying to hit a decent amount of resources
Here’s my main page
Get a ss of your other heroes
Imo the route doesnt matter if u reach 7 teams. U can get lucky and choose easy route. Its easier to get to t50 on the first half
First week is easy, then u get into 6 and 7 teams then ur rating usually drop a abut
Any advice? What y'all running?
Check this channel back tomorrow, but u could use my ss as a baseline for what kinda teams u could run
Pretty much the same. But i use ldv raku in burst team.
Idk what's better for burst, still kinda new to the comp
Ok yeah I’ll give it a shot also does the route at the beginning matter at all?

Ok so red it is
Can you recommend a substitute for Haelus?
209 skreg
Thanks!
Alna oden??
@hot forge
Luster and rhino told me oden was the key to gb so u put him with alna to keep I'm alive
Usually Oden isn't frontline though, although it works for certain TS
That's what I thought before, but they told me otherwise for TS
If it works then heck yeah
Depends on the TS buff, I'm not sure which one it's good for again
yeah for this buff oden front good
but at 7 teams I think oden back better, you gotta test urself
so like luc gbs if no alna 9f and scarlet team?
What are the best day 1 formations i always have a bad first half of TS
Are these good teams?
For 4 teams, cycle actually works in this buff. Run Luc cycle if you can over Luc 5p, much better use of Haelus which I think is out of place in team 4.
If you have Scarlet invested, run MishScar comp in Team 4. She's very good in this buff.
@hasty scaffold can I dm you discord won’t send photo
Sure. Some people put filters or scribble on their screenshot if it helps
Cool! You have E60 Scarlet 🙂
MishScar comp is Mishka, Estrilda, Raine, Scarlet, Lyca. Since both Mishka and Scarlet are E60, check their combat rating, Raine should buff Scarlet
First 2 teams, AlnaLuc, MishScar
lucy with who twins and stuff?
Yeah when you get to 4/5 teams. Move Luc to her own comp like cycle
AlnaLuc?
AlnaGB but replacing Luc over Grez. Unfortunately, Daddy Grez doesn't work on this buff
Does that work better than cycle to start for luc?
Yes, for some people who have a lot of built heroes, they don't even move Luc out of GBs and don't run cycle at all.
Anyway test what works for your region/bracket
Can Joanne now be put in ainz comp and make it better
Actually in what comps does Joanne go
Hey sorry to bother everyone. Just looking for help getting some good team comps together.. Here are my heroes
Ig GBs, Scarlet, Luc 5 pull and KrenLDV. Then random bs for 5-7
For the gb team do we really want oden on the frontline with alna and not Grezhul?
What I'm running
My question would be this
Do we want this
Luc frontline with Alna
Then when luc goes into cycle, oden front line with alna
Ahhhh okay thanks
What pets are you guys using for alna lucy and scarlet
I'm using black one for alna lucy and green for scarlet
Are u using Jeanne d'Arc in Brutussy+dim comp ?
Is 30SI, 60 engraving, T4 Gear but 7/9 furniture awBrutus worth it for Scramble or is the 9/9 mandatory?
I'd say that's good enough to slot him in somewhere, but u know he does eventually want 9/9
What most whales do

But yes that would be your dim comp this buff
Need more mats for her. Want her to be E30 at least
PSA: Don't forget to put in your pets. I forgot and just slotted them in now 
Whould u replace her with someone? (303 E30 no gear) @civic sage
Why no gear? Just gear resonance or not T4?
Worth engraving « early ish » ?
No Ezio?
You prob have higher prios
Yeah but I'm focusing on scramble so it's worth for me
Im saving for e60 mishka rn so I’m kinda overflowing with yellow cores
Show your box
Im basically done with 6 prios + kren
I just have 10k yellow cores and I’m not sure what to do next really
LDV and Estrilda
Do LDV for sure
Est e30
LDV e30 + ATK HASTE ?
Estrilda vs JoA I'm not so sure on 
Ok cool thanks
so you could go e33 but the IS should be somewhat worth for PvP? Something I've been trying to figure out
Ye idk how prio exactly her e30 is tbh
Im kinda using JoA a lot since I got her so Idk between her and est
Am I not supposed to engrave Estrilda when I get 3f for her? Engraving is just for extra dmg isn’t it?
Well if you compare the two:
Estrilda is TS/CR/TR
JoA is TS/CR/Rift
JoA being in Rift makes her more appealing to me imo since I lower the CR impact, although I'm not sure on JoA e30 vs Estrilda e30 for TS
Increases the increased % dmg on her 'Inspire' skill from 30->40% that affects allies
Ah so it’s quite good then
Idk why Im bitching about it I can e30 both + LDV lol
Thanks for the tips guys
%atk*, which is objectively better than %dmg
Hes only 101
Can you explain the difference to a noob
(Although I feel like you've explained this before)
Resonance lvl 3
You can try to kick out Ainz
Poor guy
My vote's on LdV
You can still use LdV on another comp later maybe
Lets try this
the way the dmg formula is structured, atk% has a larger impact than dmg%.
like +15% atk would result in +24% dmg or something like that, just throwing numbers out there.
also, some abilities ignore dmg mods entirely, so dmg% is null for that calculation
also, many heals/shields scale off of atk, not dmg
Makes sense, although I won't try and pretend like I actually comprehend the dmg formula 
it's not super complicated. just 3 numbers
Oh hell naw someone tried to do the math to calculate dmg 
Ensign figured this out well over a year ago. very smort dude.
How does dealing damage based of enemy health fit into that? I thought Ainz fell off at higher deficits because he is capped by attack rating?
not all %HP abilities operate the same. some bypass Def and some don't
To just throw some numbers out there as an illustration:
Damage Formula: (A * M)^2 / ((A * M) + 5D)
Say A * M = 1 and 5D = 5. This would mean the enemies have about as much defense as you have attack, meaning there’s a decent deficit involved.
A normal attack would do (1)^2 /(1+5) = 1/6 or 16.7% damage.
Now say you get an attack buff that doubles your attack (or you use a skill with a 200% attack multiplier). Your attack now does (2)^2 / (2 + 5) = 4/7 or 57.1% damage.
So in this made up scenario, doubling your attack would more than triple the actual damage of your attacks against high deficit enemies.
In pvp the effect isn’t as important, since it decreases as the ratio of enemy defense to your attack decreases
In the extreme case where they have 0 defense, the formula reduces to (AM)^2 / AM = AM, in which case the effect disappears entirely
I never think about Raku. But I doubt he’s great for this buff since he doesn’t attack very fast
The other thing to consider is where buffs are applied
atk% from things like tree/SI/etc are additive with eachother
estrilda atk% is great because it's in battle so multiplicative
but things like pet atk% might not be as good if it's additive like other out of battle stats
(and knowing lilith, estrilda's inspire could actually be dmg% instead of atk% and just badly translated considering how old of a hero she is)
But he can multishot
I'm doing some testing. Going to put A Talene in dim comp with Brutus. Pray for me. 
ATalene is very good this buff. I would personally put her with dims and ABrutus over Lucy with Alna gb
Yeah
Ooooh nice to know it's not a crazy thing to do after all. Thanks Egg and Perp!
Seeing everyone have athane make me jealous 
submit to the urge... whale one...
It's multiplicative atk%
Ik I clown Lilith a lot but some of these things are easily testable. I'd prefer to clown them when they actually deserve it
Stop being reasonable and grab ur pitchfork
sorry, Seirus already took mine. Then he broke one of the tines, the dumbass. He wields a bident now.
I read bidet


Slightly less f2p
I think we have very different meaning of slightly then 🤣🤣
Could i get some help with best setups?
Im thinking this. Sorry for the photo dumo
that's probably best with your heroes
Thanks 
so probably dumb quesitno but the yellow flag indicates how many teams you need in the current round?
im going to use these same formations too gl to us
is Cycle the best 3rd team if no burst/awakened heroes?
is there a good team for awakend talene?
Dims or invade
ty
That's what I'm doing
so JOA is replaced Arthur in Ainz comp now?
arthur hasn't been in ainz comp for a long time unless missing some dims
Is orthos used with athane?
Yes he can be
Does athane have any possible use at a single copy for TS? Or does he need investment
86% WR..2% wtf
Generally Needs investment
seems like i choose the right route
Wow this is the first time I've been top 100 although I'll def lose it
Is it even worth running Zol on Scarlet wilders (when Zol isn't being used for a diff team already)
no matter route i choose i always meet the same whales
at this point i think it's pointless lol, no way that these whales always choose the same route as i do
I already fell out of top 100 in the 5mins after my msg
(to stay in top 100 in R16 you'd need at least AwThane or AwBrutus with engraves)
For 3-team comps, where can A Brutus fit if the first 2 comps are Alna-Luc and A Talene-Dimensionals?
I'm mostly seeing AwBrutus dims
Is Aw Talene better than Aw Brutus in the dim comp in this round?
I'm not seeing the top of my leaderboard use any AwTalene at 2 team yet
I see, thanks. As I don’t have Aw Thane, I’m thinking of how to optimize by 3 team comp
AwTalene is really strong this buff though, so it'll def work
Is Luc cycle strong this buff?
Okay. I think I’ll go for Aw Talene + Dims, Aw Brutus-Alna, Luc cycle for my 3 team comp
I'm not sure whether Scarlet or Luc cycle is better, might be investment dependant
You'll probably just run Scarlet at 4 team anyway
What’s a good scarlet comp for 4 team if the cycle heroes are used for Luc cycle?
The wilder one is pretty standard, Mishka/Estrilda/Lyca/Scarlet/Raine
Burst is usable with at least Zaph, but probably not until 4 or 5 team without AwThane
Okay thanks
never got a single digit in TS before 
🐳
dam i got 55 😮
I think ABrutus with Alna is better than dim comp for 2 rounds
wow what an ez server
My scarlet comp pulling <80%
idk how I managed to have Lyca behind Estrilda instead of Mishka
Got lucky with my matchups 
Easy route. Hopefully i can get t50 first half reward before going downhill from there
I'm debating on saving my scamgazing cards for future celepogeans or using them to get ascended zaph now? What do you guy recommend? 
What's the better replacement then
Is my 253 e30 Joanne better
Yeah
Save 500 then decide
1 or 2
Alna lucy and scarlez
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But it would be alna gb if I put cycle
Is this the correct formation with joanne or it's some other heroe instead of ldv
Would my 100e0 Joan still be better than Arthur?
I feel like it's not actually worth running Zol over Raine
Although it's pretty close either way
ainz works better this round yeah?
only maulers account?
Lol
noooo

Does that mean we will all be getting gold frames? Oh wrong game mode 

Oof seems like they really reset the first 50 matches
Shiiit my t20
but like from the start

Mega Kraken 
My Mishka is like 20k higher so raine would buff them rn
Yeah I dropped from 2% to 8%
Ahh, actually I should check if my Raine is even buffing the right target 
95% winrate but top 4% is too funny
What did they do to the scramble?
Ik they hotfixed it but my winrate hasn't been this low before
My winrate is better now, although only over 11 battles (100% alna luc, 90% scarlet wilders)
