#treasure-scramble
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Got my twins ascended but my ezizh is just e+, can Lucretia cycle function at that point or does he need Mythic/Ascended?

I think it's fine. My L ezizh still works great.
Ch36 is quite early to have them ascended, can I see ur celhypos if u don't mind?
for me, i'd focus on building dmg dealer core heroes. trying to get 309e60 or sth. or just get athane
Yea sure here you go. I buy the advancement packs anytime I complete one which have pretty much all gone towards gazing. Was planning on Mortas M next, open to suggestions. I know most get him earlier but he just never excited me as a hero so I delayed him.
Can I ask what your Haelus is or if there’s any subs for him? As seen above mine is only E and it’ll be a bit before I begin on him.
Since you already went all this way, might as well get the 1* on twins for the engraving. You have all the core 4 faction heroes ascended, right?
But ye m mortas after 1* twins
Yea I do on the 4F. Ok, I’ll hold out for two more then. I didn’t know if the star was a luxury or recommended for twins. Thanks for the advice!
Ye, ideally m mortas would've been first, but since you went all that way might as well get the star
I have 303e30 Haelus but I mostly use 209 skreg tho. Im not sure which is better actually.
Also, 3F is good for the twins
It do be kind of empty!
Haelus
Can’t go wrong with Zolroth
gratz..could you show your teams for TS ?
ok guys I need 1000$ to copy that guy.. plz help 
you sure only $1000?
so f2p friendly
They’re in the list, just sitting at 1/3 😔
Good 👍
What are your TS comps? Those look pretty decent to me
I'll be able to post after reset
Ainz comp is bad and Raku specifically is bad.
Otherwise pretty decent though you gotta verify health pools on the Athane comp
Wdym verify health pools?
Lowest health pool hero needs to be in the back for Athane mirrors.
Ahh
That team's performance is largely hinging on LDV.
Wait, wrong season 😖😖😖 will find the right one and repost
Besides if you were higher rated then you'd get a lower WR.
So while it isn't the team that needs the most help it's something to keep in mind.
Sure, of course. Still, for people who are in lower regions just wanting to so top 100, teams are still useful to know
My tree is 105 right now, so I can’t compete at the highest part of my region. Breaking top 50 is a goal and I’m surprised I even get that.
@fossil finch here it is. This was in the 6-team stage. Dropped to 60% in the last day, got #50 that season, so just barely top 50.
Part of the problem though...
Let's say you raised that WR to 90%
All the others would drop because you'd be facing tougher opponents.
But you'd be ranked higher anyway
And yes, Luc is way more the winner there, but Raku slots in nicely. Wish I’d saved a battle to show his contribution. I’ll repost here later this season as I’ll run the same teams
I’d be curious to try this. Unfortunately I don’t have Twins, Ezizh, AThane or Athalia, so i struggle putting together any amazing, amazing TS teams for either condition
What I'm working with but it's far from final. That was last buff though.
Nice. Having that number of white engraving stars is OP
I only have 1 e80
Dang, fat yaga
Fat Eluard


And a 309e60 Morael 😁
I'd say we're far from finished working on the top comps.
You're much closer than all of us lol
Would you say Baba needs both +30 and e60 to be good in pvp?
I need that Russian vpn
E60 is big.
I don't know at what point its important though.
You'd have to test for yourself.
But I believe that between Baba and Ainz if your Baba is equal investment she will outperform in TS.
I like how you didn't put any furn on rowan
@fossil finch what is your impression of Anasta? You have her pretty well built. Is she performing well with that investment?
Fairly well yes.
Thanks
I see people use Desira in Scarlet cycle, can she be used in Lucretia cycle as well if I don’t have Haelus built yet?
Ye
Ok bet ty
Meta changed in this new scramble season?
They've just been switching the buffs back and forth I believe
Would this work for the current buff?
Tbh I have trouble remembering the good comps for each buff. I just wait to copy other people 
the game remembers what comps you had for the buffs so if you don't remember a team doing poorly just keep what you have set
is this the ainz is bad scramble?
Does any path matter
Too bad I didn't know what was good during that buff 
sort of maters but you wont know who else in your region picked what path so no
i felt like i always pick the tough route. lol

iirc scarlet is pretty good with this buff
scarlet is poggers with this buff
but idk if lucretia alna works well here
or should i do alna grez
or should i do budget burst
Sounds like Kren would be good
i finna just run this
waiting for 9th furn
any good kren invade comp for this buff?
i put him in my 7th team. cant find good enough team with kren
Lucretia Alna is good because Lucretia attacks the same enemy quickly
Kren kinda sus for pvp
unfortunately i dont have any other damage dealer cores
What do you think about it?
Lucy cycle is really good for this debuff
I'm running lucy cycle and alna gb for first 2 teams
But I don't know how good that scarlet team is so if someone can tell than i might switch scarlet and alna gb
Lucy cycle: Luc, Twins, Haelus, Rowan, Ezizh?
what is a good budget burst have zol, no zaph, no audrae
yes
I've been using eironn Mishka zol lyca and astar for some time and it's working well
will 203 eirron work 
I don't think so
I think scarlet team would be better
I was also kinda wondering how Raku would be with this event
is ainz bad this buff?
That's both scrambles
But more especially this one than the other.
Because his initial ult only does 60% damage
will scarlet haelus twins ezizh rowan be better?
what will be better on this scarlet team should I use lyca and replace some1?
I lack wolf girl
or is lucretia better than scarlet there
Which team is better alna grez oden silas ferael or estrilda mishka raine scarlet lyca
What are the investments?
Why not both?
I doubt that will do better than Alna Luc tbh

Your cycle investment seems mediocre to me but if it works for you then go for it
That’s what I run on both debuffs 
Because lucy cycle is already one team
And that's not changing
It's by far the best team
At least for me
Probably Scarlet then
For Cycle you’d want to swap Haelus/Twins though
Cycle might do well in 2 teams with your investments ig
Ah sorry yes they were swapped originally don't know what happened
Cycle was always about 80 percent or more
I’ve also heard Luc and Ezizh should be on opposite sides
So by far the best team
But I’m not 100% that this is true
Why's that
Well to me honestly
It doesn't matter
Don't see a reason why to switch
Only is it frontline or backline
So that Ezizh mind controls enemies away from Lucretia
But wouldn't that happen on this setup
Cause it targets the farthest
And it brings them to her
Read what you just wrote
Luc runs away from there
Honestly don't see what I wrote wrong hahahaha
But if the council says so
Then I shall do that
Ohhhhh you were saying away from her
But wouldn't you want them grouped right
They are grouped either position
Typically Ezizh is opposite so enemies group up around your twins and then it allows Lucretia to be hitting as many people as possible while simultaneously taking burst damage away from Ezizh and Lucretia since he'll pull an enemy from top to bottom, relieving pressure from her
Correct
It's pretty big
It's kind of unsettling
Guess that just shows how much I appreciate you
How do I counter whales in my region who just mush all their E60s together? I try to do good comps but lose a lot due to their invested team even if there is no team synergy
Bigger the better
It's been a long while since I've ran Luc Cycle so I'm unsure if that's the meta positioning but it was prior
Depends on the teams. Sometimes you need to counteract with your own alongside better synergy, and sometimes your enemies teams may be better than they look, do you have any examples?
Sorry did not keep any from previous scramble. But typically it happens when there are two-three teams.
Mishka, Zolroth, Astar, Lyca, Lorsan, Eironn, Respen, and Oku combinations work. Lorsan wants 9f, Respen 30si, Mishka e60
It all really depends on the team, sometimes it's better than it looks, and sometimes it's just stupid overpowered heroes that you have to direct counter
I don’t have any Screenshots but usually it’s just a full e60+ team with a mix and match of meta units
Sometimes that's all it takes, it's why bad whales can climb high
any flex for haelus?

Skreg with 9/9 or Desira I think
I've used Skreg previously
hm I have neither of those
I have him E+ 

desira at E+ worked for me last time
Gonna try a jank cycle/cc for three team this round
My twins and Ezizh are uninvested which hurts cycle, and I don’t have Haelus. Ran this last time on this debuff with Hodg instead of Skregg 209 and actually maintained 50%+
Tbf region 66 isn’t super hard
skreg 9f (which you unfortunately don't have), desira, maybe eluard which is like an old comp and that's it from what I know
And maybe raine
I think I saw few formations like that too
I’d swap LDV for Twins 
E+ twins? 
That’s what I used to do
Just try both and see
oh true 
hmmmmm
eh, I'll do a comparison round
I should have time to recover if LDV flops
To me, Ezizh there just doesn’t fit, since the enemies will still be able to ult without the haste provided by Twins
Maybe mind control/sporadic ult deny is useful though, who knows
What did everyone rank last season?
.64%
2.4%
19
Here's hoping I didn't pick the path with the whales
1
i always went right, gonna try going mid
I went left
6.6%
hops on in 30 minutes to check my TS 2% bc I got the unlucky path
You fought 89 opponents and won 1 game!

T59
45
#75
@silent ether op top6
teach me
ok what the fuck i have 100% wr but 3 pts diff from top1
97
3
First day or so is a bunch of randoms, then ladder begins to settle.
oh i see
Im facing lucius belinda comps still
hopefully i choose the easiest route
huh
I think Zol was a bad idea
Why
It was @civic sage that suggested it actually xD
46
So far so good

do you guys have team comps for this ts season

which is better from the 2?
I got the whale path 
Also my Scarlett team has been getting destroyed by other Scarlett teams
region?
I don't know I believe the green is middle
I think investment wise it's identical
But give me a sec
Scarlet is e51
On the way to e66
wow
gonna try raine again on the second half for comparison
@civic sage sorry to bug you but, would you run luc 5p or cycle pre 6 teams?
Hahahaha well maybe try moving some gears or get just a few more levels in engraving for scarlet
That's what I did cause mishka was a tad bit stronger
Does artifact matter in ts?
But idk if it's calculated outside of ts or inside of ts
It doesn't
They're turned off
Thats what i thought but when i check heroes artifacts r still there unlike cr
Idk what I'm going to replace Ainz with for 4 team :L (other 3 being Luc cycle, Alna GBs and Scarlet)
And where do you check that
Long press on heroes
I c
No it's not. You can check battle reports. No artifacts
Get bullied @proven hearth 
I'm seeing whales run ainz comp but with Awakened Brutus
yeah I'll run it with my L AwBrutus 
Hmm I was rank 57 when I went to sleep and now I'm 2%. Lemme check the leaderboard-
Cidlax 
I chose the whale path
Leviathan path
Yeah more than half of the top 100 had animated awakened avatars
At least my buddy is here too
I shouldve known when I had more score at rank 66 than rank 1 in other ppls region
Cycle
ic, thanks
Cycle will be my third team
Weak scarlet and Mishka without e60 is most likely the issue

No boolie my Scarlett
Weak sauce 🤭
Does Mishka do anything in replays? Maybe Zolroth in front line and Raine or Rowan back line instead of Mishka
Joker's pretty bad in this gamemode ngl
I mean its Joker
From the looks of it e60 has way more value than 309 on Mishka @dusk tundra
Guess I'll work on that
Also I'm guessing Scarlett wants like e60 as well
well yeah ofc, mishka e60 is what makes her shine, her 30 isn’t priority at all

Also consider enemy Scarlet has 6 more haste than yours
Haste can make the difference
Also they have Raine, not sure whether it targets Mishka or Scarlet though
I wish I had 6 more haste irl then
Drink coffee ☕️
At work already
I think it doesn't matter what path you choose
I heard it does matter
And if does I believe it doesn't show only your path on leaderboard
But everyone in region
So you never know maybe cidlax chose other path than you but there's no way of knowing that other than asking himself
I've heard it matters when u hit 6000+ or something, could be wrong
It does
The opposite
Ahh, below treasure master
Okay but you still don't know what path wales choose so even though it matters you don't know
If you chose the right or wrong path
Correct
Just go with gut feeling and hope you made the right choice
Looks like we're in the same region,same path.
true
We picked the wrong path 
Yeah,I've already gotten several losses to cidlax lol
Actually
Raine better than Zol atm
I wonder if I should bump Mishka out for Zol since I don't have her e60
I hope I see some of these whales at least try tarnos in some comps this round.
Path only matter for the first 50 matches for anyone over 100 on the leaderboard.
Anyone under 1% presumably it still matters.
Damn scarlet team fell off
32 battles in and 59% wr
But it could still change a lot you never know
Hopefully just a bad streak of luck
So thoughts on swapping Mishka for Zol? Since I don't have her e80
I guess you mean e60
Might try and see
Luckily it's still early
So if you make a mistake it won't cost you much
Seeing tarnos used in zaph comp with athane with great winrate
But would like to see how he does without athane in it
Is he more an enabler?
he's an atoner 
Hey guys, does Ainz comp work for this cycle? Is there any good 3rd team for F2P player?
On weaker regions Ainz will work but he isn’t optimal for this buff
What teams can I make
Thanks, will this 3rd comp work for this cylce?
Would Ainz perform better than one of these 3 teams?
No, but the first team would probably do better with ATalene, Astar + Dims (iirc Ezio, Merlin & Albedo).
Alna luc and Scarlett burst
Ainz is bad this scramble since you need heros who attack multiple times
Thanks!
gonna try these teams hope it works well
Idk how atalene is gonna fair but I wish u luck
LOL
#17 on region 7 with bottom two atm, going experimental with top team and am about to enter three teams. Abrutus at 94% and scarlet at 60% so far
Curious to see how the experiment goes
If I remember correctly the team did pretty good on the last rounds with same debuff, but going against top 2 teams it could flop. Will probably run lucretia cycle if its not good.
Does cycle still suck for this round of TS? Cos cycle was terrible in the last round
Yeah cycle has time to take off this time.
0% win after 16 battles >_< back to cycle
fucked up t100 with ainz, didnt know that he performs more shittily in this buff compared to the last one
even alna gb without luc has pretty mediocre wr. but scarlet does well
I'm impressed you won one.
Albedo, Brutussy, Merlin, LdV, Ainz
Lyca for Rosaline
Lucretia, Alna, Athalia, Ferael, Silas
Sounds better than luc cycle
Its what im running
Stole it 😋
Also found the winning replay, was against random bullshit team but the concept was for Flora to have time to ramp up to 400% damage. Almost managed to stall out dimensional team in another match, but the damage isn't quite there to kill stuff. Might still be okay in later round with some alterations.
hmm not bad gonna try the arthur variant on the next half
Do u have Brutussy?
I do not
Sad
It's just 1 battle though 

Ik it was just funny to see when I woke up
I'm still 80th on the whale path so that's good
This is stupid
Okay I gotta leave SC alone for a bit since it's scrambling rn
I could pull for 1, would that help me 
No
how are you getting t100? could you send your teams please
Could anyone explain the pathing in this game mode. I heard before that it didn't really matter which you choose
no idea with 3 teams yet, im gonna check if splitting luc n gb is better or raku and scarlet
but ainz is most definitely dogshit after getting like 15% wr
my first 2 teams was able to get me to t50-100, set back a little after trying out the standard scarlet comp that yield 57%
for now my t3 is luc5p, ill check wrs tomorrow
Alna instead of Grez
no alna
Bro might not have alna
im a poor pleb
I tried doing cc raku and my god it sucks, about 40%
Raku Scarlet seems like a better idea
i viewed a person last time and their 2 or 3 teams are pretty much their top heroes mushed together
that's why i did raku scarlet which was somehow good, 80ish%
nice I might do that then
so 3th team is just luc 5p and you did full GBs on first one?
i did luc 5p because i dont think my dogshit cycle heroes would cut out
yeah fr I was thinking the same
yeah full gb r1
tho I do'nt have 5p 
but im gonna split them at 6 teams
yeah you told me in pm
oh forgot
dunno, perhaps

I'm gonna try something spicy
31st r62
Zolroth doesn’t ult frequently 🤨
Anything is better than 0%
Zolroth is like the opposite of cycle
Just slapped together t3 but it seems to be doing ok. Top100 r68
That's the spice
Too spicy
Would lvd be a better substitute
Bc once I take Lucretia out of the gb team they'll tank
It will but at least alna gb can have around 40-50% wr i guess
That's true
I was just hoping to wait until 4 teams
Actually, I want to try 1 more ainz team before I give in
t100 is a confluence of all paths

Are 80% win on a team good?
@ebon flare any success with cycle?
LDV was shit, swapped for Twins and it didn’t help much
Running about 40%
Me too
Skregg is okay but I think Haelus would be a big jump
Having stronger Twins and Ezizh would also help
Yeah
Twins is A rn, I’ll try frontline them instead of Skreg
Damn nice
I did Astar e30 instead of saving shards for Twins 

I didn’t think my actions through 
I figured I’d get to Luc star when I finished Mort and then I got a copy from stones and said fuck it
And then I realized I was at e26 on LDV
So now I’m stalled on 39-16 because my Luc needs stats

Should i change to burst comp. Luc is used in cycle
Kinda sus ngl
any reason why Hendrik has a 66% win rate within the top 10
So far so good but my 2nd team is a bit weak compared to the others, what would you pur as 2nd team?
he's usually used in AwThane comps to buff Def and for the backline save but that's more rng.
I see
Nvm it needsmore battles
Would Oden be good in Cycle?
Also I'm still trying to figure out all the heroes who're really good for this scramble
It's probably just showing a much lower % because of the small 6 battle sample
should i shuffle some people around?
i only have a 20SI M Abrutus so that’s not really that viable
You have M Abrutus and M+ Athane?
I just meant you should have finished one before working on the other lol
yeah no i 100% agree i skipped thane bc i was like nah i’m not gonna go big into pvp… but then TS became like the new normal so i started to build him
now i regret
Well once you have all athane and abrutus built you're probably going to be doing really well in TS
until more awakened heros come out and i’m behind again lmao
That's why I usually save resources instead of summoning or gazing for heroes on the go. For a nonwhaling player, you either go big or go home. Staying on the highway can run you out of gas 
my instant gratification brain could never :/
i’m but a simple monké i see tokens, i spend tokens
Spending them right away would've been fine if you stuck to AwThane
Neither tbh
I havent found any success with either version bc of this Scrambles buff
I'm kinda tempted to swap ainz with Queen just to see
whats a good budget burst comp
A good 4th team? Also the alna luc gb doesn't do that well, are there any improvements that can be made?
Athalia
Instead of oden
But it only works 309 with good engraves
My 309 did jack shit
Do you have astar you could do in place of saurus for team 3? Or is saurus working well?
Zolroth Eironn Astar + Raku Lorsan. Lyca and Mishka would be better than the last two but you can use them instead since you’re already using with scarlet
Definitely not the worst possible lol
how does this 4 team look? not sure who to have for team 3? also my Graveborn team is really sucking ass at 30% WR while my cycle and scarlett team are in the 70%’s
Seeing how I dropped out of top 100 it is lol
Worst possible? You could have replaced Lucretia with walker.
Are you working on both? lol
Just Brutus atm
I think these "Treasure Scramble" are going to get harder and harder as the months go by. Whales have an insensitive to flex even more now
Or do you guys think that there are enough regions to space them out
There's definitely enough regions to where we're spaced out a good margin
Most people will get all the rewards anyways
Only reason to try for t100 is a few more resources
@alpine sundial Show ur teams
there basic things alna gb, ainz, luci invade, i need to make a cycle team i have athane as well
burst as well
Make a ss
ainz team sucks rlly hard this round
Without Brutussy, yes
i havent changed my teams since ts started lol posting now
Damn
I guess something like this
Sorry for the ping
dont have zaph built really high only L
I dont have him so idk
no worries ill look around for a little bit
But im pretty sure Bok knows a good comp
well i changed up some teams now i didnt know that there was a modifier in ts
Whats ur rank and Region?
Just replaced my Mortas for Leonardo
R10
Region 10 rank 29
Thats pretty good ur wr looked really bad in ur first ss lol
Because after you promote to next division you only fight stronger people
Takes a while for more people to promote
Yup😅 last time I started a day late too, so I didn't even make Top 100.
Astar, Eironn, and Lorsan are good replacements for Zaph
Exactly, here are the battle logs of the most recent scramble
My WR was less than 50% when I ranked top 45 for last season
It might be because my losses don't drop me a lot of points, if any sometimes. Idk what everyone's experience with the +/- has been.
This will be my 5th team unless someone has another suggestion.
VIP > Yuexi > Heroic Ship
Which do u guys think is better? Burst or ainz
Yuxei is juiced
Swaggy
No clue that was called that
Also which VIP rewards? Are they all good value I'm at vip13
They’re all good value
Thx for the advice
Should I be 1 or 10 pulling Yuxei
10 dreams
This is what I do
which is better or any suggestions
2nd one
thanks, btw do u have better suggestions like using eirron or with regards to positioning?r
I'm going to try out budget burst over Ainz in 4 team to see if it's better for this TS buff too
it will be
trust
can you show ur 4 teams
It probably will, Ainz is really horrible with the dmg debuff
even astar cant cover him 
Pretty standard boring stuff
Alna GBs
Luc cycle
Scarlet + 2 wilders
Budget burst
Idk if Eironn, Saurus or Lorsan is better for budget burst, I've got an M Zaph too but he seems like he'll be a lot worse than with furn
i can do ur comp but im concern of losing lucretia on alna gb
lucretia alna is op
replacing her with grez might lose drastically
I could swap Luc into that but idk what I'd replace cycle with
I should probably try out alna luc to see if those gains are better than the loss of cycle
Does alna luc use ferael, oden or athalia?
Afaik back line is athalia silas ferael, but athalia needs 309e60 I believe
I've got 30960 on atha, silas and ferael so we gucci to try it, Oden is my least invested anyway
even with oden replacing atha it reaches 70-80% wr
I'm just worried about how badly Ainz will do before 5 team
I could also run scarlet cycle and put lyca and mish on Zol
tbf i rather have a consistent 3 wins 1 loss than a risky 2-2
My Ainz is doing horrible, 7 battles 14%wr
Granted I don't have merlin
Using LDV mortas AAA
yea im using AAA Merlin Mortas on 4 teams
Burst is my 5th team, but maybe should've switched its place with Ainz
Too lazy to do it now
im risking a throw away 4th team for better win rate on 3 teams
- lucretia alna
- scarlet mishka
- budget raku burst
- AAA mortas merlin
How much worse is Scarlet cycle than Scarlet 2 wilder
since the scarlet wilder almost ults instantly giving grant to the debuff
My team 6 is just whatever I could throw together that had good investment
I pretty much have to run the same ones for 5 team anyway
I'm just unsure about 4 team because I can swap more stuff around there
Is Atha middle better than Fera middle for GBs
I don't think anyone runs her mid, I've seen either silas or ferael mid
Atha always on either side
I see her middle sometimes when looking at leaderboard whales, but almost never for people of my lvl
Just looked at my leaderboard. Everyone who's using atha has her either side
I'll keep her side like I always have, was just wondering why some ran her mid
I'd prob only Silas mid if I was using Oden instead of Fera
nyay

0% is pretty impressive

Sheeesh
Saurus is bad. He’s not even burst. Use Eironn
eirron is 203
t2 gear resonance
Better than Saurus
Does Saurus even attack
tough
saurus sux
Better than my literal 0% using budget burst 
I'm going to swap it back to Ainz 🤦♂️
For anybody curious, running Alna Luc GBs in 2-team I had about 70% wr, pretty much identical to Scarlet wilders. In 4-team, with Luc moved out for cycle, Alna GBs is at 60%, Scarlet is at 75%
Granted, region 66 is pretty easy, but that's my rough comparison
my alna gbs only got 38%. my burst did ok but my scarlet without lyca is pretty bad.
For 3 team I was getting a bit better than 50% with Alna GBs and 60-70% with both luc cycle and scarlet 2 wilder
I’m afraid to use cycle. I feel like it hasn’t been performing well for TS
F2P page
What is Scarlet Wilders?
Mishka Estrilda Raine Scarlett Lyca
I think I've been hovering between 2% and t100
Just unlocked TS, is there a guide somewhere?
This is horrible
horrible
its ok but rip
This is my plan for 5 team, any suggestions?
A 203 Orthros would do better than an unbuilt Sonja.
Hard to give recommendations without knowing what you have to work with.
Also if your Farael is 309, probably better than Athalia. Athalia without engravings is… meh.
Really hoping these win rates stay
I don't have a single copy of Orthros in my 2+ years of playing. Just got athalia to e30 too.
Burst without AThane is trash
Try Leonardo instead of eironn
My budget burst with ldv had 0% in 25 fights 
Top 4%
Just squeezed into t100
What comp is good for Abrutus? I've been seeing him in ainz/dim comps
Ainz comp for Arthur
Instead of Arthur?
Like this
I see
Also what's the min requirements for Twins and Haelus. Bc my Haelus is 300 atm and my twins are 303e30
I think u need Haelus 309 E60 and Twins E33 (haste)
So I'm only focusing on TS at this point with Cursed Realm being so whack, my Zolrath is legendary and I have 0 copies of Healus. Do I stargaze Zol to speed him up and not wait another 6 months to ascend him or just gaze Healus?
So I don't need anymore furn for twins?
Mine are 203 E33
Ah damn I over invested lol. Oh well I technically need it for stats
I will get mine to 309 at some point
Same since it's pvp and you need to over invest regardless
Cool that's 6 furn I don't need to worry about rn then
Gaze and challenger for Zolroth to 1*. He is more important and impactful in pvp than Haelus
I need a 4th team that actually works, any recommendations?
E80 solice 
E80 Albedo 
That's a crime leaving oden e0 tbh
Same for Scarlet E0
I did Silas first 
Now can I please get some help? xD
Put Lucretia into cycle
And Ainz comp without Ainz is not a good idea
My boy going crazy

Soon
Ainz teams seem to be quite bad this time or did I miss something? Also no Ainz
Ainz is indeed bad
I got really bad pull luck
Hes already M+
I know ur pain took me 587 cards for 11 copies
then the pull right after took 60+
meanwhile there was someone in nihilum i believe who got shit ton of copies within like 200 pulls
btw I got 5 Haelus copies to 1* him in about 120 draws
Next time ban
We cannot call it Scamgazer anymore
ye shockwave claimed to get 8 brutus copies in 209 pulls
I got lucky with A Thane, 3 copies from tavern alone
I got 2 Brutussies from normal summons in 24h
LdV + Raku sucks. It's pulling down my win rate 
Could be better, but could also be way worse I suppose 
At this point I just hope I stay in t100 for long enough to get the halfway rewards 
Ye first day I was t50, now I'm having trouble staying t100
Tho I haven't fallen to 4% yet
Same, keep dipping back and forth between t100 and 2%
I feel like LDV Raku sucks without Lyca Zol but you don't want to take Lyca off Scarlet anyway
My Zolly is only L unfortunately and yeah you're right Scarlet comp suffers without Lyca. Sadge times
Was doing well with this variation but I doubt most have frampton built
I think Kren and raku is probably too squishy for one team, need a support or enabler
1* AwTalene is crazy even before looking at the star on Frampton lol
Yeah it’s that “power creep” comp in one of those formation guides that got posted.
I'd probably go for Frampton after my Morael and Zaph are done
End of Round 1. This is my highest ranking ever. I don't know how that happened since I have the shitty LDV + Raku win rate. I guess everyone else is struggling when it gets to 5 teams.
What teams did you use?
Luc cycle, Scarlet + Mishka, Alna GB with A Brutus, Ainz with A Thane, Raku + LDV
Oh,both ABrutus and AThane
A Brutus just 305e44 xD
That's a lot better than my non existent AThane lol
how to make team 3 better 
Pray
Rosa has been working for me in Scarlett comp
what’s a replacement team for my third team? it’s really dragging my WR down 😦 top 6%
Gb without Lucretia is trash. And cycle is mediocre so I’m putting her back with Alna
weird im getting decent WR w lucy cycle
Any suggestions how I can improve on this with the heroes I’ve got? I’m just a noob so not a lot of options.
and my investment much lower than u lol
I'm considering using scarlet cycle so I can try mishka or lyca in the raku ldv zolrath team.
I assume you’re in a newer region or lower rank
Honestly, I'm a little surprised at the results I'm seeing. I really expected the win % to be switched with these teams cuz the first is what I run in campaign and PVP. 🤷♂️
32% is still better than 12
This is in 2%
Region 4
Don't know how that will affect you
These were my comps for last round. Most likely changing
Elucard instead of lvd
probs lower rank? Region 12
i don’t have a built elucard :((
Region 14. Rank 30 atm
yeah i’m only top 6%
stop using oden in your alna comp
Did you try ferael instead oden
Maybe it'll work better
This buff you want heroes that attack quickly
still is
depends on what you're running
team is a counter to some other comps that are ran on high end
🤨
Bump
Honestly at that point you just have to use your strongest heroes
I doubt anyone would be able to give true solid advice on what Elite heroes you should use
Cool. I just wanted to make sure I wasn't doing something obviously stupid. Thanks
eironn doesn't belong in a corner, generally speaking
How do you mean? Should he be middle back? Or cuz I'm not using him? I haven't had much luck with him actually helping the team. My teams seem to do better without him. But I'd believe it if you told me I'm using him wrong.
Eironn is best in 1, 2, or 4
think i’m not gonna bother with a proper luc cycle 👀
I want to run luc alna but not running cycle would hurt my other team so much
I’m going to try scarlet cycle but I don’t have high expectations
Yeah that was would I would've done if I did swap, with lyca and mishka free I could use a diff Zol team at least
But for the time being luc cycle is almost on par with my scarlet team
And alna gb hasn't been going that bad, ~50%
Tbh I'm scared to check my TS ranking every day lol
lol at least trying alna grez and getting super low % has shown me I can have some horrible teams and still stay in top 50.
Yeah that's why I haven't tried it lol
Just barely
how is alna gb performing for you guys on newer regions?
my 5th team is performing better than regular gb, by a lot
At 23 battles AlnaGB are doing worse than standard Ainz comp lol
ainz is dogshit but i never thought for gb to perform worse
My alna gb is at 51% surprisingly
60%-70% in top100 R68
dropped into 50s for one rotation though
Mine is around 50-60%
my scarlet cycle doing 70%, second best team rn
went from 4%-2% nice
Well tbh it makes sense why gb comp sucks lol
This scramble is about heros who can hit multiple times at once, and that's like the opposite of what Alna gb does
thats why lucretia replacing grez does the trick but it can sacrifice other team comps
but alna lucretia op af
GB Luc did amazing for me too
I'm thinking of putting pippa in gb to see if portal party does anything

Can use ldv on r3
replacing?
Lorsan
alright
I need to build Astar
What gb? Standard alna grez?
34 battles 70%
Figured scarlet would perform like this
After how many battles is that wr
Would haelus not have been better than desira in that comp?
That desira wasn't built much either though.
Haelus can be used in other comps
I didn’t even notice I wasn’t using Haelus. I originally had him with AThane and didn’t think about it when I moved him back to burst. Haelus probably would have worked better since no DEF buff from Desira but I doubt it would have been much better
I’ve NEVER heard of Raku LDV comp for pvp until I came here. Seems like a low level comp. I’m pretty sure it can’t hang with meta comps
It's a budget comp yh
but it's decent for those who don't have the whole PvP meta built
We are too poor for the cool burst comp
It didn’t perform well at 4 teams. Maybe it’ll do better with 5
Not missing out on much
If you give me enough tot cards for Athane I will use the cool burst 
Scarlet sometimes good
Here's where I'm at on Region 10
Thoughts on what will work for Team 6 yet? Guessing my Thoran won't cut it. Unfortunately no A.Thane or A.Brutus to throw in. Ainz comp is bad too but no alternatives...
I do have a good Astar, Desira, Queen, Hodgkin...if those help anywhere
Ainz and burst hitting around 25%, these are the other 3 teams
Astar instead of lorsan probably
But like 309e4x
Or somn like that
And did you try ezizh instead of Atalene in cycle
That comp is doing alright. I just need something better than classic Ainz or Thoran
What wr are you getting
Team 1 and Team 6 are the bad ones
Is it better than this
Now I'm trying standard ainz comp
And slotting ldv in burst
I don't know what to do for 6th team
Very similar to that. Slightly lower. Every other team is 50-70%
50
Suggestions for 6 teams?
I'm still at 2%
I’m getting destroyed lol
Things will go down later
whale
For me it's the complete opposite
I struggle more in early teams for some reason 🤣
might be your strongest teams aren’t relatively strong but your weakest teams are still pretty solid or something
Hey any suggestion on who to put in pos5 ? Apparently I put Kren and I’m down to 36% wr (I don't have any other dims available)
Numi is decent
If buff targets Ainz. I assume you don't have merlin or arthur
No I don't unfortunately
What SI does Numisu need? You think I should make him +20?
+10 is fine
alright thanks
Nah they're not e80 yet
I believe it was even contextually f2p before
Hes f2w 
F2P = Fun2Play 😙
If you think about it too, nothing is free if it takes up your time 🤷♂️
fun to pay
Fast2Pay
Need help making 5 teams, im always placed low ranked
What TS team does JoA fit into outside that AwkBrutus whale comp and Ainz?
Stop bullying ppl

Ur bullying whales, thats not ok
Plz stop it
Whales deserved to get bullied
F2P or trash


@still heron now that I think about it I did get my Abrutus to M+ in less than 300 draws.
Bad rng 
Tbh thats average imo
So it is bad luck 






