treasure-scramble

[limpid lava]

That's what I do so my mush in 6th and 7th knock me down

But I'm unreasonable currently so I'll stop

[shut vessel]

Yea don't break it up

[nocturne token]

flat stat buffs early make people feel they are stronger also, one of the reason why first day result doesnt matter

[dusk tundra]

Burst comps are the best for this buff

[frozen crest]

3 teams do i do this or split gb with luc?
no other good teams btw

[bright light]

how’s luc gb doing for u rn?
if it has good wr then I’d try that and see how raku ldv does
if not then u can do luc5p and gb

[frozen crest]

ah sorry if my question isnt clear
i meant if 3 teams come, should i split luc and gb and put ainz on 4th team or do the pic above where ainz is team 3 and i dont split gb with luc
basically ainz, raku cc, gb luc or raku cc, gb, luc 5p

[civic sage]

Mortas instead of Aezizh is what I’d do

[bright light]

Ah well I haven’t tested ainz yet so idk how good he is without Merlin, personally I’d run ainz/gb/luc5p

[frozen crest]

ok, thanks!

[civic sage]

@ebon flare @bright light what’s the WR on your teams

[bright light]

rank 48

what will u use for 3-4 teams btw? I’m not sure when to split alna luc

[civic sage]

I think after that we add Ainz

And then maybe Raku LDV

Although I need to find a good one without zol

[bright light]

Hmm, wouldn’t the LDV/raku comp from last debuff work?

I’ll probably use atalene, raku, LDV, kren and brutus or my op E astar

[civic sage]

That’s what I’m planning

Atalene Astar Raku LDV Kren

[dusk tundra]

8%

[civic sage]

Atalene sounds good in this debuff as well, since I assume her being killed doesn’t contribute to the buff

[bright light]

Oh right it’d better to use brutus over E astar since she’ll probabpy die fast to trigger the buff

[civic sage]

Yeah probably

I got mine 303 for TS and hopefully 309e30 soon enough

[hasty scaffold]

Noob question, why do I sometimes get +14 for two wins and sometimes it's only +12?

[frozen crest]

i guess +12 is when your opponents had an average trophy more than yours compared to +14 where the average trophy of 2 players more than yours is higher or sum

[hasty scaffold]

Thanks that's interesting.

[limpid lava]

@bright light what region are you in

[bright light]

68

[limpid lava]

I'm interested how different regions compare cause in my region I have better investment but much liver winrate

[limpid lava]

Almost

If only one more

[bright light]

u in 67?

[limpid lava]

I'm region 4

Almost till the funny number

Lower regions should be less competitive

So I'm amazed at the difference

[hasty scaffold]

I'm in region 69 if that's what you mean, they booted me from region 68

[limpid lava]

Yes

[bright light]

lol yeah it’s definitely harder where u at, not so many ppl with high investment in my region except the krakens who r top10

[limpid lava]

Well I thought it would be easier

Cause usually the lower regions aren't as competitive

And lot of players stop playing

[bright light]

seems easier now with the new region? I think I’ll get better now that some of the whales moved to 69

[limpid lava]

But also only the strong ones stay so might be that

[frozen crest]

you can move servs?

[limpid lava]

And the player pool is lower in my region maybe

[hasty scaffold]

No everyone seems to have Thane is my region. 😢

[hasty scaffold]

No automatic readjustment

I had no choice. I was 68 last time now I'm in 69

[frozen crest]

oh pog, same

[ebon flare]

Switching Scarlet for Ainz to test in second half of the day

[civic sage]

Where are you placed rn?

[sage moat]

Switched mine to arbutus ainz team and gborn lucretia teams

[ebon flare]

2 points under t100

How’re yours performing?

[civic sage]

I’m ~70 rn

[civic sage]

Why not AlnaLuc and Abrutus in Ainz? Isn’t Abrutus better there

[sage moat]

Yeah that's what in trying next, had just ainz comp and alna abrutus comp with 68% and 92% for first setup

Got #42 in region 7, plain ainz was alright but not great

Expecting bit of drop on win% now that the rank differences have separated a bit

[gloomy lichen]

Whats ur region?

[ebon flare]

Asta and I are in r66

[civic sage]

Yeah I think traditional Ainz comps are weak outside of newer regions

[icy spruce]

Oh I'm in 68 too, that's optimistic to hear.

[civic sage]

He’s still doing amazing for me though so

[bitter hull]

Rank 74 in Region 2

[nocturne token]

Oh a fellow region 2

[bitter hull]

Best of luck @nocturne token ✌️✌️

[steady hill]

y’all lucky on ur regions huh

my region full of athanes

[still heron]

Whats ur Region?

[steady hill]

50

[still heron]

Im 58

[steady hill]

i cant copy teams from t100 cause they are using burst and alna lucretia atha

not to mention decent amount of players using athane and abrutus

[hasty scaffold]

Me too. At the moment because it's just two teams anyone with a decent A Thane build is gonna land high in the leaderboard

[nocturne token]

Region 2 full of athane and abrutus wdym

I feel lucky matching with luc alna atha tbh

[dusk tundra]

My plan for 4 teams atm. Going to engrave Athalia when I get 7k more challenger coins

[tame hinge]

So does pretty much every burst comp require multiple celhypos? lol

[dusk tundra]

Zolroth, Eironn, Mishka, Lorsan, Lyca (astar for any of the wilders)

Respen too if you have si30 but who really has that

[tame hinge]

Is it worth taking mishka and lyca from scarlet's comp?

[dusk tundra]

Zolroth, Eironn, Lorsan, Astar + ??? Might work

Maybe Raku

What are you using for scarlet

[tame hinge]

Mishka estrilda lyca scarlet raine

[dusk tundra]

I don’t really like scarlet comps so I’m not too sure how effective it would be without Mishka and Lyca

Probably keep that if it’s working and do use the other wilders with Zolroth

Even Athalia works with Zolroth if you’re already running Alna/Lucretia. Can sub Oden in Athalia spot

[quartz bolt]

What are good comps for TS?

Is Luc-Pull good for it?

[dusk tundra]

Generally 5 pull isn’t a great comp for pvp but if that’s all you have you can use it. Alna GB would be the best choice

[bitter hull]

5 pull with Luc worked ok at 6 teams and well at 7 teams

57% winrate at 7 teams

[ebon flare]

Generally it seems that the best opening teams (for non-whales) are burst, Scarlet, or GBs. Ainz works in newer regions, less so in older

[bitter hull]

In region 2 almost every in top 100 has an Ainz variation

Scarlet not so much

It’s either Ainz and GB or Ainz and burst

[civic sage]

I'm running Ainz and GBs

seems like it's better

[ebon flare]

I was running GBs and Scarlet, with 74% and 78% win rates. Swapped out Scarlet for Ainz as a test. GBs are stable at 74%, Ainz is only 56% rn compared to Scarlet’s 78%. I’ll update at the next scramble

I do have Mishka e60, but Ainz and Scarlet are both e41 iirc with. LDV is e20somethjng and Estrilda is e30

[civic sage]

What lineup are you running for Ainz?

if you are running Mortas that makes sense

[civic sage]

I'd 100% run LDV in pos 4

that would bring your WR up a decent amount

my LDV is e36 as well

idk if that makes a noticeable difference as well

[ebon flare]

Why does that make a difference? Dodges more Ath?

[civic sage]

So that his cannon hits more enemies

[ebon flare]

Ah

[fading osprey]

What scarlet where u running ?

[ebon flare]

I’ve swapped, we’ll find out if that makes a difference next 12-hour scramble

[ebon flare]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/974081672972763186/1004720575832412230/IMG_9727.png

[civic sage]

Do you think Raine is worth running in Scarlet?

[bitter hull]

If it matters my exact same team has a much lower winrate atm

From last night

[ebon flare]

She did better than Rowan last three scramble metas

[civic sage]

Since she will buff Mishka rather than Scarlet

[fading osprey]

Yea my scarlet had less than 60% wr as well

Wonder if it's just region related

[civic sage]

which is why I put Rosa instead, although ig extra energy on Mishka is still valuable

[civic sage]

I think it is

last debuff I ran Ainz and he was one my highest WR comps

and I was t50

[ebon flare]

Probably, region 66 seems to be servers in the high 800s and newer

[fading osprey]

I've swapped for ainz, hopefully it will do better

Too many Athane in my region

[crystal isle]

try to guess how I did it)

[limpid lava]

Paid lilith

I hope that's on some high regions cause I'll be pised if not

[crystal isle]

forgot to start scramble (didn't choice a route yesterday and I am half a day behind everyone)

[limpid lava]

Anyways congratulations

Well with those winrates you'll catch up in no time

[crystal isle]

So now in second half of a day I was paired with weakest players

[limpid lava]

Ohhhhj

[crystal isle]

That's the reason

[limpid lava]

Yeah makes sense

I'd frame it and put it on a wall

My biggest flex was last cycle woth lucretia cycle with 100 wr in 6 teams or 7 can't remember

[limpid lava]

I don't want to brag or anything

But my wr is 69%

I can retire now

[crystal isle]

Nice

[dusk tundra]

Nice

[sage badger]

what is minimum athane investment?

like is it worthwhile to build him to SI30 when he’s still mythic atm?

[nocturne token]

e30

[sage badger]

damn so A* is basically a requirement

[nocturne token]

yeah need e30 so he can chain his jump after kills

[sage badger]

damn ok thanks, long way to go. only M athane rn

[icy spruce]

Don't have Merlin yet and Mortas is E+. What should I run as my 5th in Ainz comp with AAA+LDV before I move LDV to Raku comp? I have Scarlet, Raku, Rowan, Mishka, Lyca, Daimon, Grezhul all free and invested. Also the E+ Mortas.

[dusk tundra]

Have you looked at what your leaderboard is using? I suggest looking from the bottom and going up. Try to find someone with a similar investment and copy them

[plush pecan]

Hi there, any comps available with Anasta?

[dusk tundra]

Invade

Combination of ABrutus, Talene, Skreg, Framton, Morael, Joan, Flora, Kren

[indigo epoch]

Does it do good/decent on both buffs?

[dusk tundra]

Yes

Let me see what I used

[indigo epoch]

Nice, thanks!

I need to start saving your setups lol. Im close to that comp, and it'll probably be like +20% in my region.

[dusk tundra]

Didn’t have Anasta built yet but I would have put Anasta in place of JOA and then put JoA for Skriath

[plush pecan]

Thanks for sharing! 🙏🏻

[dusk tundra]

Best comp would probably be ABrutus, ATalene, Skreg, Framton, Anasta

I thought Lucy Alna was supposed to be good 😢

[shut vessel]

Your atha too weak

[steady hill]

rip

[icy spruce]

Working well on R68 at least. Much less developed region

[gloomy lichen]

Anyone tries luc cycle with this buff?

[teal ferry]

This cycle trolling me

[nocturne token]

cycle not too good this buff

[teal ferry]

:c

[nocturne token]

nor other debuff

[hasty scaffold]

Scarlet comp has been a flop for me. I think I could have placed higher if I didn't use her at day one 😦. Also, I think Luc is a little inconsistent as well, not as bad as Scarlet though

[civic sage]

Scarlet is very bad for me

I’m at 4% now

It seems Estrilda is the problem

Since she dies and gives the buff to the enemy

Seems to be the reason for the majority of my losses that aren’t just an engraving diff

[hasty scaffold]

yes, that's what I thought. Also most people's might tree is low. Will help I think if you have Mishka E60 for protection

In other news, A Thane and A Brutus is dominating. Well done Lilith

[civic sage]

Well a lot of ppl t50 are running the exact same comps as me or similar so

Maybe this is just bad early rng for me

[shut vessel]

simple, make estrilda bigger

[gloomy lichen]

Mayb ill try burst comp instead of scarlet

[frozen crest]

how many distinct debuffs are there from the start and are the debuffs recurring?

[bright light]

Only 2 debuffs so far

[frozen crest]

oh good to know

and ainz aint performing good on either

[civic sage]

Ainz does well this debuff

Probably because you don’t have Merlin

And on last he’s still solid for newer regions

[frozen crest]

oo i see

[civic sage]

Scarlet is the one that sucks for me this debuff

[hasty scaffold]

Yup, Ainz is good for me. Currently at #52. Also, try not to put a weak Mortas on Ainz. It will help. I put Luc in there because my Mortas is at L

Will replace Scarlet prolly with Luc 5p or something. I don't know yet.

[sullen zenith]

Suggestions? Should I be using an Ainz comp instead, or a more classic GB-Alna? Thanks!

[hasty scaffold]

I think you're doing well. What's your current rank? I wouldn't change it if it your ranking is good

[hasty scaffold]

Whoa. I was just saying earlier that Luc is kinda sus this round but I thought it was just me.

[shell jungle]

mine is actually my best team rn

[hasty scaffold]

I guess results really vary depending on your region

[bitter hull]

Top 4% region 2. I think I screwed my Fram placement

[ebon flare]

@civic sage I’m rank 50 rn (region 66 for anybody curious)

[civic sage]

Yeah, I saw

I think it's just pure rng

[ebon flare]

Idk what’s different between our Scarlet success

[civic sage]

since my Scarlet team is 47% rn

[hasty scaffold]

Mishka E60

[civic sage]

I have it too

[ebon flare]

Estrilda 203e30?

[hasty scaffold]

Oh sorry didn't know. RNG then or let's blame Estrilda 😂

[civic sage]

003e30

[hasty scaffold]

I've removed Estrilda for next round. Imma see if it makes a big difference

[civic sage]

No way +20 is the difference maker

[ebon flare]

Could be

[civic sage]

I'm going to have to start spending my emblems more wisely

[ebon flare]

How so?

[hasty scaffold]

Estrilda's replacement. Some dude with blue hair

[ebon flare]

Mate if you have Athane why tf were you already running him?

[hasty scaffold]

Because I'm stoopid

[ebon flare]

[hasty scaffold]

No, he didn't have his 9/9 furniture then I got the last one just now. So lol

[ebon flare]

Oh makes sense

[civic sage]

Stop doing random crap so I can afford Estrilda +20

[ebon flare]

You could try Athane burst instead of Scarlet Athane, that seems to be a common comp in t20. Granted there are a lot of e60s and e80s there so idk what invest it needs

[civic sage]

you need Zol for a typical burst

so that's already a lot more expensive for newer players

and Zaph would be the pick for top-end burst

[ebon flare]

…Sky has 309 Athane

I kinda assumed he had Zol

[indigo epoch]

iirc my scarlet team was kinda meh first season, but e60 + stars and si20 on estrilda & raine boosted the %

[hasty scaffold]

No Zolly for me

[civic sage]

Probably not

[ebon flare]

huh

[civic sage]

I'm 1 copy off Atalene, it's not really that expensive to get your first awk hero

a second one though

[ebon flare]

I’m getting LDV +20 to see if it helps boost Ainz winrate

Or maybe just +10. Turns out I’m short on gold emblems

[civic sage]

Probably will

I am nowhere near Estrilda +20, let alone +10

I can't believe it makes a noticeable difference

[ebon flare]

We’ll find out, idk if that’s the key or if it’s rng

[dusk tundra]

Doubt it

[civic sage]

Possibly

[ebon flare]

It does give her 20% hp, and that 15% dr for backline

[civic sage]

I think rng is probably the main factor, but hopefully it helps a bit

[gloomy lichen]

i got +20 estrilda wr still only a bit above 50

[dusk tundra]

Scarlet probably redundant. Haelus, Skreg 9F, Hendrik, Lorsan might be better choices

[hasty scaffold]

Don't have much choice atm. No Haelus, Skreg just 3F. Hendrik +200 and Lorsan E+ 😭

[civic sage]

Hendrik can get used at low investments iirc

[dusk tundra]

Hendrik is fine to use

9f is better but he still works

[dusk tundra]

But keep scarlet in for now. See how she does

If AThane is doing most of the work then replace her with Hendrik

My athane is a little more built than yours but he’d finish the battle before scarlet even used her ult

[hasty scaffold]

Cool! Thanks a lot for the tips

[hasty scaffold]

Feck me. You were right. He was done before Scarlet could finish her ult. 🤣

[dusk tundra]

This buff is perfect for AThane. Makes him even more op

[bitter hull]

Seems like Ainz teams should be renamed to Leonardo teams lol… most of my Ainz team wins end up like this it seems

[bitter hull]

Wow that’s crazy

[dusk tundra]

Post again after 50 battles

[bronze flax]

does it really?

[civic sage]

Doubt it caused that much of a difference in %, but it's certainly a good upgrade for TS

[bronze flax]

I'll consider it when I have the emblems and nothing else to +20; almost have Estrilda e30

[tame hinge]

She's at least +10 right?

[bronze flax]

of course; 103e0, need like 250 more shards for e30

then it's back to asking who to e30 next

[tall birch]

Hey guys, I don't really get the "meta" for treasure scramble, this is the best I can get, usually end up the seasons at around 10%-30% here are my heroes, is there any room for improvement?

[limpid lava]

Try these compa if you have heroes for it

*comps

[sacred notch]

Struggling out here without merlin

[static bone]

Scarlet team hasn't been doing well for me either. I tried to sub estrilda with a 203 Rosa and that was worse. Really hurt my day 2 win%

[uneven flint]

I made 96th which is the highest

[limpid lava]

Me too

I just checked and it's 38%

Before it was 50 to 60

Dropped me from 76th to 6%

My alna luc also took a hit

[static bone]

Mines at 26 with rose

[limpid lava]

Went from 70% or smth like that to 50

[static bone]

It's was 40 to 50 ish with estrilda

[limpid lava]

I upgraded my estrilda to 20SI

And suddenly I'm doing worse

Wtf

[static bone]

Yeah idk I think I'm just gonna try to run like lyca and Rowan and see if I can win off quick ults or something for that team

With scarlet

[limpid lava]

Well if you try it lemme know

How it goes

[static bone]

I'm gonna try this

[limpid lava]

I'm thinking maybe to go with that raku ldv comp you guys are always mentioning

[sage moat]

Expecting scarlet to do better once the teams get diluted out more. Losing to ainz abutus/athane/gborn luc teams with it and that's like most matches I get atm

[limpid lava]

But still don't know for sure what it is

[limpid lava]

Mishka might steal the energy

[static bone]

At 5 teams I'll do lvd,raku,Kren, atsa, and someone

[limpid lava]

What's yoir 4th

Lucy cycle

[static bone]

I'll see how the gb team's holds up like that. Last ts it did well without alna. If it starts to fail I'll swap Trevnor with alna and add zol to luc cycle

[limpid lava]

Do you have haelus

[static bone]

Only e+

[limpid lava]

That sucks

[static bone]

Working on him now tbh

[limpid lava]

How about desira

[static bone]

103 for des

[limpid lava]

Hmmm maybe that'll work in cycle

But maybe with a little more investment

[static bone]

I have a 203 zol I used last ts in the cycle and it held up good

[limpid lava]

Luckily I have A haelus

So I'll use him there

And zolrath for that burst

[limpid lava]

This probably

[hasty scaffold]

Noice! What's your 4th team?

[shell jungle]

still at 3, but when at 4 it’ll be this

gotta see how well ainz team does without ldv

if not then team 4 will be luc cycle and go alna gb instead of luc agb

[hasty scaffold]

Thanks! Genuinely not sure what to run on 4th team but maybe some kinda luc comp

[limpid lava]

Would that team work better with astar instead of kren

[shell jungle]

possibly, my astar is only 203 so idk if it’s even worth trying for me

[shell jungle]

what’re your 3 rn?

[hasty scaffold]

Alna gb, Ainz with Luc 😂, Scarlet comp with A Thane

[novel vector]

This is what I was running. Gonna try your comps out tho Stink

[shell jungle]

[novel vector]

idk why the positions were messed up lol

Also isn't Elucard good in cycle?

[shell jungle]

eh, kinda phased out i think

[novel vector]

dang

who should I use instead

[shell jungle]

desira or skreg work

i honestly can’t tell you how good eluard usually does compared to those

i usually run desira though

[novel vector]

kk

[dusk tundra]

Seems like any comp that isn’t ABrutus or AThane is losing

[sage moat]

Yep, the early few team stages are kinda boring

[gloomy lichen]

Scarlet is a bit better than my burst

[tight jackal]

Why is it doing so bad

[sacred notch]

No alna

[tight jackal]

Ainz is also doing bad tho

[dusk tundra]

Burst damage is the best for this TS

[sacred notch]

Ideally merlin in place or rowan and maybe also ldv in place of mortas

[static bone]

Idk what the deal is with this current ts everyone I'm facing is significantly more invested in engravings. I don't remember it being like this last ts

Granted I won the bottom one. But it's literally like this every time lol. Wtf

[tame hinge]

It is funny how the alna lucretia beat that team with two awakened heroes and lucretia and scarlet on it. The person just gave up multiple comps to make that one team.

[gloomy lichen]

Mayb u just choose the hardest route

[static bone]

Yeah I have no idea what's going on in this one. I'm def facing a lot more invested players. Maybe it's just early yet or something. I had no problem holding top 100 last ts. Now I'm 4% or something

[mortal sentinel]

Current win rates, any advice for the bottom team?

[dusk tundra]

Right now anything that isn’t ABrutus or AThane is losing

[mortal sentinel]

So basically nothing I can do till more teams?

[dusk tundra]

Sadly

[shell jungle]

i think that depends on your region

i don’t have either and im constantly ranging from t25-t50

[mortal sentinel]

I'm region 14, so lot of super invested teams

[shell jungle]

yeah im 55, it varies on region whats able to be used optimally and what isn’t

[mortal sentinel]

60% of the time I'm vs e80/e100 comps

[shell jungle]

this was last i checked

[dusk tundra]

We are same region

[mortal sentinel]

S222?

[dusk tundra]

228

Thought I’d switch it up this round lol

[dusk tundra]

Definitely would not work in our region 😂

[shell jungle]

yeah i’d imagine

[mortal sentinel]

What path are you on?

[dusk tundra]

Uh I think the red one

[mortal sentinel]

Green so probably won't face each other

[dusk tundra]

70% with ainz comp 🥲 I’d be happy with 45%

[mortal sentinel]

Honestly kinda crazy how bad ainz doing

[clever basin]

my luc team isn't performing at all so far. idk what to else to do for team 3 though.
maybe @sacred notch ?

[frozen crest]

stupid speculation but perhaps it has something to do with safiya's placement and her inability to cast the barrier

[clever basin]

so maybe swap skri and safi?

[frozen crest]

perhaps, try watching the replays. or it's just comp diff

[clever basin]

wait I can watch replays?

[shell jungle]

[frozen crest]

[shell jungle]

yes

[clever basin]

just watched 3 and safi cast barrier in all of them

so comp diff?

[frozen crest]

ok then, comp diff

[bright light]

Safiya and lyca frontline probably trigger the effect for enemy team

[clever basin]

what do you mean

[frozen crest]

the whoever kills the first enemy gets a huge buff

[bright light]

^

[clever basin]

uhhh

[bright light]

probabpy put skriath/luc frontline or skriath and someone else instead of lyca or Safiya

[frozen crest]

skriath is tanky?

[clever basin]

I'll try skri/luc frontline I guess

[frozen crest]

i oughta try that

[clever basin]

ascension stats? idk

atleast in my case

[bright light]

Not really but he’s A so more stats

[novel vector]

Ainz done dirty

@shell jungle teach me your ways

[gloomy lichen]

R55 depends on the path i guess

[novel vector]

I must've had bad ainz luck

[lime zinc]

No AwThane+Brutus and I can't even get top 3% lol

[novel vector]

Ngl I have no clue how treasure hunt is calculated

[fading osprey]

I haven't used any of them and still managed to get top 100, sure they are good but not mandatory

[haughty jasper]

E80 all can fix this

[shut vessel]

[steady hill]

damn ts getting harder and harder for plebs 10%

[hasty scaffold]

Scarlet comp was also problematic for me in the beginning. I had to make adjustments.

[icy spruce]

What were the adjustments? My Scarlet is 46%, running the same estrilda lineup as everyone else

[gloomy lichen]

Mine is at 53%

[quartz bolt]

Can someone help me adust my teams According to my hero pool?

[rare grove]

You're at 10%? that's tough

[steady hill]

yeaap

though region

[tight jackal]

this is literally what i can make

[sage badger]

any suggestions for a 4th (1st) team? My zolrath is almost at A, same with astar, but astar is only 252

[dusk tundra]

Eironn and ATalene over Astar and Zolroth. Zolroth needs 3F minimum. Eironn will help with burst. Talene just because

[shell jungle]

zolroth lol

[sage badger]

thanks yeah i have 3F for him just not ascended yet lol

[novel vector]

I want to use my 309 Zolrath

[fading osprey]

Then use him

[novel vector]

Idk where to use him

Top 4%

[fading osprey]

My scarlet team sucked so I did a burst comp with zol

Tho it's not working much better

[novel vector]

Do you still need Gwyn for burst

[fading osprey]

Nah gwyn is outdated now

[novel vector]

Do you use Scarlett then I'm guessing

[fading osprey]

This is what I'm using

But %win rate are kinda false since I started later so I was faced with weaker teams

[novel vector]

Ah, that's the one wilder I don't have built lol

[fading osprey]

Astar ?

[novel vector]

Yeah them

[fading osprey]

I don't know what replacement u could use

[novel vector]

It's fine my Scarlett team is fine

Ty for the insite tho

[dusk tundra]

1% off from greatness

[novel vector]

woah look at those comps

[ebon flare]

Y'all

This is a friendly reminder that no matter how good your comps are, all it takes it a few encounters with whales and their e80s for your team to fall from grace

Last night I went to bed at rank 39, with winrates of 68, 75, and 50

Woke up at rank 100, with all three teams at winrates of 33%

[civic sage]

Happened to me too 😢

[limpid lava]

Since reset my scarlet team rose from 30 something percent to about 60

Bruh

Then It's all rng I guess

[indigo epoch]

It seems like if you climb higher you get harder matchups on average, and if you drop you get easier matchups on average. I see-saw around 30-70.

[ebon flare]

I'm kind of considering investing cores for TS. I think an e60 Ainz would go a long way for it, plus it'll help in all PvP anyways, as well as KT and campaign. Not so great for CR, though tbh I don't think I'll be able to get into Legend top 38% so that's not a major concern

[civic sage]

Ainz is a great investment for CR

I am going to do Lucretia first though

[ebon flare]

Just not one of the early ones

[civic sage]

then probably Scarlet

[ebon flare]

Yeah, that's my other concern. I'm still 1 copy short of Luc star, so she's not engraved at all

[civic sage]

I think after Mishka/Lucretia/Scarlet he should be next

[civic sage]

That's surprising

[ebon flare]

You'd do Ainz 60 over Grez 60/65?

[civic sage]

thought you'd have a luc star now

[civic sage]

Yeah probably

I don't think we need Grezhul e60 for a long time

[ebon flare]

Nah, I got one copy from stones but I'm putting her star off for now. Getting Mort to M20 first, and maybe Khaz M30 as well before the luc star

[civic sage]

and I've not seen anyone show a large disparity in dmg, between e41/65 for bossing content

[limpid lava]

Don't

Get 1 star on her immediately

Why wait for 1 copy after 16 copies of others

Trust me get her to 1 star and later do mortas khazard or whatever

Where the team 1 go

[ebon flare]

Is the star and e41 that big?

I also lack shards rn, finishing LDV e33

[limpid lava]

Yeah

Well

She is stat hungry

Every little bit of stats help her

But the point is don't prolong the time for getting her to 1 star

When you're only 1 copy away

Even if 2 it doesn't matter

I don't know what's her optimal on engraving cause I followed the mass at the start amd e60 her immediately

Now sitting at e65

attack node

Maybe might do pp node later

[dusk tundra]

Everyone else must be getting destroyed by AThane comps because I’m rank 30 with these wr 💀

[tame hinge]

Have your patients give us comp suggestions.

[dusk tundra]

I’ll check with them on Monday and let you know the details

[tame hinge]

I'm looking forward to it.

[stable parrot]

Hi

[glossy cypress]

Games easy

[steady hill]

team 3 looks promising aye

[steady hill]

go to my region

[glossy cypress]

Click on the picture. It was only 3 battles.

[steady hill]

my 3 battles was 0%

[sullen zenith]

Any suggestions to help the other 2 teams?

[gloomy lichen]

I might try your third team next round. My burst wr is only at 20+%

[lime zinc]

Using Zol on a diff team or just trying out Rowan in that slot?

[steady hill]

zol is on the works, he is unusable atm

but rowan works good

from 10% to 4%

[lime zinc]

Ah makes sense, I'm running that exact comp but with Zol in the Rowan slot after I saw it here during like 2nd TS

Pretty nice if you don't have AwThane or Zaph

[steady hill]

do you think zol will replace rowan once i built him?

[lime zinc]

Probably? I'm not running Rowan on anything atm for 3 team but he'll be on Luc cycle for 4 team onwards

Although my luc cycle was doing pretty badly this TS buff

Better to use Zol on a more meta burst team if you had it though probably

[static bone]

My cycle on 4 team has been pretty meh. I may try 5 pull instead. Last ts cycle def worked better than 5 pull but so far it hasn't done me well

[icy spruce]

Gonna try your third team for next round of fights, hopefully it does better than my scarlet. Shouldn't be that hard with 33% 😅

[fading osprey]

What would be better between luc and scarlet cycle with this ts buff ?

[novel vector]

Top 2%

[bright light]

@hasty scaffold how’s your 5-pull and alna grez doing?

[hasty scaffold]

My Luc 5pull has been diabolically bad lol. I don't know if cycle is better. My Ezizh is just E+

Alna Grez has been consistent although they dropped to 60% now. It was around 70ish in earlier stages.

[bright light]

oh I thought it’d do better. My ezizh also E so idk how cycle would do.

But worth a try since 5p wr is shit

[steady hill]

for cycle its investment dependent

5pull is shit too since many of the enemies you’ll face doesnt even get 5 pulled

so its always a good try to experiment the last team

[lime zinc]

My Luc cycle is doing horribly but I don't have 9F Haelus (all at least 303 but no engraves other than Luc)

[civic sage]

Skreg cycle with luc does alright for me, at least better than 5p

but my Twins is M+

[limpid lava]

In last debuff my lucy cycle with M+ 30SI Haelus worked pretty well

But don't know how he would hold up this debuff

[lime zinc]

Wasn't last round the multi hitting one, that's where luc cycle is actually good

[sage moat]

Jumping from 2 teams to 3 and from 3 teams to 4 etc is always brutal for win rate as people below are running only the top teams while you have to put out additional team that probably won't beat those teams

[sacred notch]

You already have an athane?!?! 👀

[hasty scaffold]

Shh don't tell anyone >_<. I got lucky pulls from tavern and from temple and I just decided to go for the last few copies

[tame hinge]

Whale

[hasty scaffold]

Budget whale, Walmart whale or whatever

[haughty prism]

I want that

[limpid lava]

Yeah was just saying for future reference if needed for someond

e

[static bone]

I've ran cycle and 5pull and they boss have sucked tbh

I'm not whale invested tho. So take that with a grain of salt

[median lava]

Anyone wanna help me get better? Cant seem to pass 2%

[median lava]

Yes yes I am sure I am usint the best comp for me

Could never get the meta comp to work

My atha and drez are too smol

I could squeak out some dmg tho with rng

Im using the luc r1, gorvo r2, and drez r3

But the r3 dmg sucks so basically all os from r1 and r2

Grand hunt

The one that ends in 10 min lol

Better do it quick haha there is like no time left

[warped sundial]

sir wrong channel

anyway without athalia pretty sure that’s kinda as good as it gets

[warped sundial]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

not scramble

grand hunt "BiS" is clear as day just go check top leaderboard

[nocturne token]

Bis this round. Maybe not next round

[dusk tundra]

What is bis

Ty

[median lava]

I legit thought I was in general chat smh

[warped sundial]

[median lava]

Because I was talking abt grand hunt in that channel lmao

[median lava]

Eventually I will e60 her

[warped sundial]

that's like me saying i'll eventually e60 isabella

[median lava]

[warped sundial]

i mean, it's in the plans

just like, maybe 20 e60's later

so in 2026

[median lava]

I would prioritize her more if I was unable to keep up in CR. But for now I am doing ok somewhat

[warped sundial]

i dropped another %

[median lava]

I usually get around 12% there sometimes 14% or 16%

In TS it is 2% or 4%

[warped sundial]

i used to get 1.5%, for several rounds there i was 2.1% then 2.5% then 2.8%, now i'm out of 3%

[median lava]

Yeah the CR squeeze is real and it is bs

[warped sundial]

was 1.5% for like the first three full cycles then lilith be like TOO MUCH REWARDS GET OUT

[shut vessel]

It's cuz everyone's investing in cr heroes

Same as scramble

[warped sundial]

i mean, that's what we thought

but someone claimed to have the numbers of players and they dropped ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[shut vessel]

It's both

[warped sundial]

so it's still mostly on lilith

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[median lava]

Why should they care tho. More heroes for ppl to whale for

[shut vessel]

What I mean is they won't do as well for AE

[median lava]

Oh

Yeah the hoard I am keeping is making it tough. I could probably finish morael if I wasn't saving

[gloomy lichen]

This ts is tough. So much rng

[frozen crest]

anyone knows how much pts are between t100 and edge of 2%? im 70 pts away and i wanna get 2% but this 50 fights left make me nervous

[nocturne token]

probably cant tell

[dense lava]

It will vary by region.

[limpid lava]

I'm in 4% and t100 is 65 points infront

So far I think I've been maybe 40 points away from t100 and being in 2%

Mybe 45 at most

So around that number

But it's all rng

And as mentioned depending on region but you can make it a reference

[frozen crest]

ohh i see. thanks! never rhought that it would also be region-dependent

[limpid lava]

Well of course

It's also day dependent

Cause there's no set number that divides the groups

[sullen zenith]

I realize Lucretia team isn't great this round, but not sure what an alternative is once we get to 5 or 6 teams... suggestions?

Sorry messed up screenshot. Here it is

[bitter hull]

It’s not great but I managed to hit 40% winrate with Luc cycle. I think it’ll only go up. I think should break 50% at 6 teams so you should be ok to run it

I only say this because I don’t think there’s better alternatives at that point

[sage moat]

That feel when you ser your win% is at 25%

[limpid lava]

I dropped from 2% to 6% in a second

Difference between me and t100 is 123 points

[rare grove]

Hoping I don't drop out of t100

[still heron]

Hoping ur behind me 😆

[rare grove]

Okay I'll do you from behind

[still heron]

Hell no

[rare grove]

[sullen zenith]

Thanks! Good to know Luc isn't useless. 40% is higher than I expected

In Ainz comp, I've seen some win with Ezio. Is he better than a SI20 M Mortas this round?

[mortal halo]

I'm surprised Zaph burst is not performing better :o

[vague grotto]

It does with athane

[wise lion]

you can check other regions to verify this - the #1 player across regions will have diff points, as will the #100 player, and this doesn't even account for how many players exist within each region.

[dusk tundra]

Mostly because Audrae needs 9 seconds before she kills everyone

So they lose to AThane and Lucretia.

Just realized I should out her middle for less chance of getting killed by Athalia

[limpid lava]

I wanted to be in top 2%

And I was for literally all days

Except rng decided fuck you

And 6%

[tame hinge]

I've been staying between rank 17-21,5th comp comes out and I'm 25 like immediately probably only going to get worse from here.

[summer epoch]

Has anybody tested the new wilder boy in burst?

[dusk tundra]

Don’t even know what to say

[hasty scaffold]

My rates are also shyte lol. I don't understand TS anymore.

[limpid lava]

It's like rich get richer and poor stay poor

Or get even poorer

[tame hinge]

You're still getting resources,if anything you're just getting poorer in comparison to the rich lol

[mortal halo]

Perhaps not the best comp then 🥲

Though your region must be super whaled if you get those scores with your comps Oo

[limpid lava]

Well yes

I can say that it's the same in real world

You still get the money but the difference just keeps increasing

And there's no fun in that

[steady hill]

team 3 works very well, oden pos 4 works well too

im on a whale region too with athane and abrutus comps

kinda proud this gets decent rating

[gloomy lichen]

anyone tries kren comp this ts?

[lofty zealot]

sure

oh wait ts no

[icy spruce]

Just barely made it

[gloomy lichen]

Trying to make my 6th team from kren. Mayb kren skreg or sth

[frozen crest]

would suck be be the 101st with the same amt of pts

[rare grove]

Nice

[gloomy lichen]

Sad

[dusk tundra]

I feel your pain

3/20 smh

[bitter hull]

Curious why you have Zaph in position 4 instead of 3? Wouldn’t 3 work out better as you get the coordinated snipe on one target?

[nocturne token]

i think where Zaph would blink stun into is based on the enemies line-up, you cant really decide that. 3 or 4 wont change the result

[lime zinc]

cries in Luc cycle

[vague grotto]

Audrea needs that 9/9

[icy spruce]

Hell yea it would, I’m glad the game chose me

[limpid lava]

Well the game put me at 6% for rewards

And when the new rotation started

4 batles in it decided to put me in 2%

So there's that

1700 possible diamonds loss

Not including few red chests

[civic sage]

Why not Scarlet?

[quaint pollen]

Hey so I invested in the wrong celestials/hypogeans as I have Zaphrael but I don't have Healus or Zolrath. For the Mischka burst, what's a good replacement if I throw Lyca in there. So Zaphrael, Lyca, Mischka, Eironn. Does Raku work?

[steady hill]

scarlet does not perform well for mepl

[thin pagoda]

this hurts just by looking 😦

[lime zinc]

Luc cycle still used up to ~top 25 in my region, but they're pretty much just people that've got 30960 minimum on every unit they use for TR.
Above that she's only used with Alna+Athalia+GBs

[steady hill]

cycle sux cause twins count as 2 maybe

[lime zinc]

I'd move Luc over to Alna GBs and run Scarlet cycle instead if my furn RNG wasn't cursed and I actually had 9f Scarlet

[fading osprey]

Scarlet cycle equally suck

[hasty scaffold]

Scarlet just doesn't work for me this round. I've tried her in different teams

[fading osprey]

Yea I thought she would do better

[quartz salmon]

Same for me

[lime zinc]

Scarlet cycle does suck too, but if I freed up Grez from Alna GBs I could probably run a 5 GB 5th team which would probably be better than how badly Stall is going
And I'm guessing Luc is also at least a tiny improvement over Grez on Alna GBs

[hasty scaffold]

Food for thought. Alna-Grez vs Alna-Luc with E80 Luc and overall better tree than me with bonus Oden E60. Not sure how I won but just wonky RNG?

[civic sage]

His oden positioning seemed like what lost him the fight

His tree isn't that much better than yours as well

also RNG is a factor like you said

[hasty scaffold]

You may have a point on the Oden positioning. Most do run Silas in the middle. And yeah probably RNJesus helped me

[static bone]

Doing pretty decent on region 64. Luc cycle is doing poor tho

If that helps anyone out. Could also u am idea to help the luc team out without changing the others

[shell jungle]

hm

[indigo epoch]

Luc cycle doing the best for me lol

[fading osprey]

Cycle is so bad for me

[sacred notch]

Don't run Scarlett cycle

[fading osprey]

I figured

[sacred notch]

Use Scarlett burst as seen in the post above u

[fading osprey]

Scarlet burst was bad as well, I prefer to run another burst

I'll just don't use scarlet

[bitter hull]

Luc cycle doing not bad for me

[tame hinge]

Lucretia cycle has my lowest winrate and she is 359e85

Good thing I took that screenshot,I may not have noticed my ainz garrison was about to expire. lol

[mortal halo]

That would have been unfortunate haha

[stable pollen]

That athane team...

[fossil finch]

Building a gap to 5th.

[rare grove]

Nice

[frozen crest]

thoran cheese op

[shell jungle]

@green viper

[green viper]

I believe they’re already banned

Just the message wasn’t deleted

[shell jungle]

[tame briar]

Why were they banned? Just curious

[green viper]

Scam links

[tame briar]

Gotcha

[rose elm]

How can I play this event?

[dusk tundra]

wow i’m 73th and climbing rn actually doing good

[fast bear]

Recommended teams with these heroes? I'm gonna replace the Daimon team with Ainz, Albedo, Arthur, Rowan and Merlin

[gloomy lichen]

is this gonna work?

try to make invade comp for 6 team battle

[green cipher]

when do someone usually do well in TS? like i keep hovering around 20%

having difficulty in making proper 3+ teams

[sullen zenith]

Stuck on a terrible Team 5. Any suggestions? Not a ton of heroes left...Oden, Prince, Ezio, Daimon, Skreg, Queen

[stuck sun]

Hello! I just unlocked treasure scramble and wanted to know if there’s any advice u guys got for it or any teams to make and stuff

These are all I have and I have no idea what treasure scramble is lol

[lime zinc]

It's basically like Challenger arena or HoE except you don't choose who you fight
So multi-team pvp

[gloomy lichen]

At least its not 0

[prisma kite]

When do your teams fight? Because changing them doesn't have a more or less instant effect?

[hasty scaffold]

Team changes take effect twice a day. You can check on "Teams start scrambling in xxxxxx"

[fathom shale]

Any team help?

[sullen zenith]

Is there a better Invade team out there?

[bitter hull]

ABrutus

[limpid lava]

Is there better 5p

[formal aspen]

ah, you're playing PR nightmare!

Captain slicey does better than pr nightmare but it pulls heroes from comps you might not want

does 6% to 14% better than PR nightmare depending on your tree

[limpid lava]

No athalia nor lyca

[formal aspen]

ooof

[limpid lava]

Lyca in another comp

Athalia only A 209

[formal aspen]

scarlet comp? i subbed in atalene

athalia might work that low

i dunno

pr nightmare is ime, the best five pull variation you can play during scramble

[limpid lava]

Scarlet comp is mishka estrilda lyca scarlet and raine

[formal aspen]

yes you can substitute in atalene for lyca in that comp

[limpid lava]

Yeah bout that

[formal aspen]

she can be L, she doesn't need high investment

[limpid lava]

I don't have the facilities

OH really

[formal aspen]

don't have single copy?

[limpid lava]

I have it at L

[formal aspen]

yeah same in raku comp

but lorsan imo is better in raku comp if atalene is low investment

[limpid lava]

But idk is it worth for only few more on other comp

Raku comp is astar zolrath lorsan ldv raku

[formal aspen]

yeah that's always where i land with comp 6. that said, i usually hit 7 teams and at 7 teams Captain slicey does nearly 50% for me

[limpid lava]

And it works wonders

And what would be the replacement for lyca in that slicey of yours

[formal aspen]

5 teams vs 6 teams

lorsan doesn't work as well as atalene but i only switch to lorsan at 6 teams when the comps rate goes up so it ends up close

[formal aspen]

i never found a good replacement for lyca in slicey. found it was better to put atalene in scarlet and steal lyca

[limpid lava]

Well raku ldv is 80 percent sooo

I don't think it's worth it maybe

[limpid lava]

Yes please

[formal aspen]

what region? what rank?

[limpid lava]

2% r4

Sorry now droped at 70

[formal aspen]

ah i never fall out of top 100 in region 11 so I'm mostly going against awakened lol

lower win rates the higher you go, rip

[limpid lava]

When I get into top 100 I get railed back to 2% or worse

[formal aspen]

yeah, you play different players the higher you go

[limpid lava]

Yeah unfortunately

I'm always lost on 6th and 7th comp which costs me always

Yes pleqse

Wtf I answered on wrong message

Hahahahaa

[hasty scaffold]

Why is the comp called PR nightmare? Inquiring minds need to know

[formal aspen]

Queen+ skriath = spin cycle (it's a PR term). + tidus fear = pr nightmare

[hasty scaffold]

Ah clever lol

[formal aspen]

i spend too much time naming teams lmao

[limpid lava]

You think there's a replacement for raku orr

I put daimon

Also have 209e41 or something like that isabella

Oh and 209 hodgkin with e33

[limpid lava]

Another team

Raku ldv

Well I put daimon in so I'll see how that goes

And if it's bad try isabella

Cause come on

It can't get that much worse than 16% wr

[shut vessel]

It can

[shell jungle]

[limpid lava]

Bruh

I'm gonna guess and say that you're in the top 50 and that's why

[shut vessel]

11th

[limpid lava]

Thank god that ain't my problems

[haughty jasper]

Cubey

Is reward for 11th same as 10th

[shut vessel]

No

11-20 have diff rewards to top 10

[frozen crest]

t100 next rotation 🙏

[neat rose]

Does anyone here have an idea for Team 7?

[limpid lava]

I stand corrected it can get worse now it's 10%

[gloomy lichen]

Wr of my team 6 dropped from 20 to 10%

[quartz salmon]

6th team stands at 4% WR

[gloomy lichen]

wanna try 5pull but i think its not that good

[indigo epoch]

It's not good, but my 5pull stole a couple wins off AlnaGB without Athalia, and can win against other weak 6th team. Can't really expect much from 6th/7th team.

[gloomy lichen]

luc 5pull? if it's more than 10% wr i might give it a try

[indigo epoch]

I use Luc in another team.

It was 25% (region 58), but I changed my teams for next battles.

[gloomy lichen]

Interesting

[ebon flare]

I'm trying Daimon 5p, it ran at 20% wr yesterday

Queen 5p might be better but I don't have her yet

[limpid lava]

So far so good

If only it stays this way

But unfortunately it wont

[silent oar]

Alguém Br?

[novel vector]

Any advice for my 5th/6th teams

[limpid lava]

I don't but I suggest engraving ldv

That'll be a big help

Kren also

[novel vector]

I'm working on Twins Engraving first but I'll work on them next

[novel vector]

309 Kaz? Super whale. Jk lol

[stone tartan]

Any tips what i could change?

[novel vector]

5 pull doesn't really work in pvp

[dense lava]

That 5 pull has a better win rate than most of the other teams. Seems to work well enough at their rank.

[cold wharf]

Which is better?

[dense lava]

The right would probably be slightly better, but both would perform fairly low.

[cold wharf]

It for 7th team)

[bitter hull]

Just a personal favourite hero and it was my first elite hero so she has special treatment 😭😭 surprisingly decent Alna replacement since I don’t have her yet tho

[bitter hull]

It can work at the 6 and 7 team stage.

[storm moth]

what teams to make? (dont look at 5 and 6 they are mess) (bedo is in team 3 but garrison ended for now)

[sullen zenith]

Any ideas for teams 6 & 7

[worldly wedge]

It's too late, this is last 12 hours now

[static bone]

Whiffed on the 2 scrub teams lol

[tame hinge]

Well I went from 15 to 21 overnight,hopefully it times out well enough for me to push back into the top 20 by the end. I may have been pushed out too soon though.

[desert spade]

Think the player will have enough time to hit the final division, 5 stars?

You need, what? 6800 prestige?

[limpid lava]

10 more battles I'm so close

[static bone]

Nice I'm at 55 with 4 battles left. Hoping to magically climb 5 spots to hit top 50

7 points separates me and top 50 ATM so it's doable

[worldly wedge]

This definitely wasn't close at all and could've been decided by one fight

[static bone]

Rip. I lost my final 2 battles. Dropped me to 60th

Last week I was 64th so made some progress I guess lol

[limpid lava]

Lucky I started few days earlier than you so I'm in r4

Seems like a tougher region

[limpid lava]

And I made it to 2% instead of 4% like in last debuff so I guess there's improvement for me to

[tame briar]

Top 50

[static bone]

94% win rate Athane putting in work

Me having 2 trash teams really hurt lol

[worldly wedge]

I think it's just nasty at the top, middle end should be fine

[tame hinge]

Oh,are there 50 battles total?

[still heron]

Yes

[worldly wedge]

50, twice a day

[limpid lava]

Hmm well might be but still when I get into top 100 I get railed in the ass and thrown back down

[tame hinge]

So being at 50 battles done and at rank 19,does that mean I'll be guaranteed to stay rank 19,or could some other people not have done their 50 yet for some reason?

[worldly wedge]

You're guaranteed rn

[hasty scaffold]

Very close fight. Just one point difference to Top 20 and same point as #21

[tame hinge]

Apparently I have the same points as the rank 20 person.

[worldly wedge]

Damn, good rising from 64th to 22nd too, that's huge

[hasty scaffold]

Thanks to Thane-nos 🙂

[tame hinge]

How did you go from 64th to 22nd? lol

[worldly wedge]

Thane doing thane things

[hasty scaffold]

Our region was also split. I was 68 previously and they chucked us to 69

[tame hinge]

I was back and forth between 15-25 the entirety of both rounds. Ended up 21st round 1 and 19th round 2.

[tame hinge]

Looks like competition is a bit tighter in region 5. I'm in region 56 and cidlax at first place with 6799,second place had 6596

[worldly wedge]

Yeah R5 is one of the most competitive regions from what I've checked in comparison

Top 5 are all basically e80+, 3-5 has some weaker e60s

[tame hinge]

Apparently this guy's e80s don't stand up to cidlax's heroes

[worldly wedge]

That is simply a team difference

Opponent has like 2-3 good teams

[haughty jasper]

arty op

[novel vector]

Yeah boys

[dark kraken]

mmm

i fucked up this ts

[tame hinge]

How so?

[steady hill]

how y’all having easy ts

[tame hinge]

I think the key is awthane or awbrutus, or both. lol

[gloomy lichen]

its always tough with team 6 and 7 for me

[haughty jasper]

fatality

[sacred notch]

I placed t100 in the 2nd ever TS rotation, but lately I'm having trouble getting 2%. Placed in 4% this time

[shell jungle]

yeah people are now focusing ts, and building for it specifically

gonna gradually get harder probably

[sacred notch]

Fuck me

3 copies way from ascended zol and getting ever so closer to getting merlin

[shell jungle]

i wish you luck

[novel vector]

I'm a former mini whale

[low iron]

I've found that I usually end up floating around 2~4% through most of the TS until the last few days where I jump into the top 100. Though I've been getting better end-placements each time at least, I wouldn't be surprised if I end up dropping off if the region gets more competitive.

[tame briar]

I was always top 2% but as soon as I finished athane went to 77 last season to 46 this season

[gloomy lichen]

it will b a year till i get any a. hero build lol

[novel vector]

[limpid lava]

I'll start building awakened when they're all released

So i don't get fucked cause I can't build another for more than a year after

[novel vector]

Is it just me or is Treasure scramble better to build for than CR?

[shut vessel]

Yes

[frozen crest]

imagine if they add timegazers for t100

[dusk tundra]

they will never be all released

u realize after gb there we be another and another etx

lol

[limpid lava]

Yeah unfortunately I know that

But still it's better to wait for all factions to be released

Cause you never know with gb

Cause they could be really op

[novel vector]

They are the strongest faction so it'll probably be a beefy awakening

Unless it's Torne

[limpid lava]

Well they're suspecting shemira sooooo

Who knows maybe they'll bring back her old glory

But much more important question

Who will work better in ts in both debuff or at least one

309 Athalia

Or 309e60 Oden

In alna gb comp

[gloomy lichen]

shemira isabella probably someone whos not meta

[tame briar]

I pulled the trigger on athane before abrutus was released and I'm happy with my choice so far although it's very close between them. Hopefully asolice is aezizh tier

[limpid lava]

I honestly hope so too

[bronze flax]

.08% with neither

[limpid lava]

Probably 1 off from t100

[novel vector]

So rn It's Athane at the top?

[dense lava]

aThane and aBrutus are pretty equally at the top.

aThane MIGHT edge out a little more, comp depending

[limpid lava]

Well for pvp probably aThane

Cause he has a comp around him

[worldly wedge]

ABrutus basically makes his own team too

[limpid lava]

Where I saw aBrutus in ainz comp

Really

Can you tell me the team

[worldly wedge]

Nah ABrutus usually just forces Maulers around him

[limpid lava]

I mean

Not that it helps me but just curious

[worldly wedge]

Stuff like Skreg Anoki Anasta Joan Talene Flora ATalene Alaro are all viable with him

There's lots of other options too that's just the most common outside of dim core

[limpid lava]

Ahhh okay

But in my opinion brutus is more versatile

What do you think

Cause he's a lot more used in cr than thane

But still is used in pvp like ts

[worldly wedge]

I'd definitely take ABrutus over AThane if you're debating between the two although it's worth noting that elder tree can definitely limit ABrutus significantly

If your might isn't at proper investment it can really limit him

[indigo epoch]

What do you think min might tree is for abrutus

[limpid lava]

Oh yeah that's right he's fucked from that point

[worldly wedge]

37 probably although I'd look more towards 47 with him on the team

[indigo epoch]

Nice, thats not too bad.

[limpid lava]

Well it doesn't sound bad until I realized I have 30 more levels on other trees before I start on might

[worldly wedge]

I'm still uncertain how that lines up in comparison to AThane though

[limpid lava]

Which is at 10 😭😭

[worldly wedge]

Yeah tree is nasty for limiting heroes of many classes

[limpid lava]

Well it'll take maybe 20 weeks until I start with the might tree

Idk about the acquisition rate of juice

[indigo epoch]

Oh, while your here I had another Q. Is Sonja only used with AThane or do you think she can slot into other comps (mid-lower end pvp)

[worldly wedge]

In lower end PvP I'm sure she's fine as a tank but I wouldn't be super fond of her over CC tanks

Depends on how sustainy your team is

[limpid lava]

What do you think about 209 Athalia vs 309e65 Oden in alna gb comp

Is Athalia better or she needs engraving for that

[limpid lava]

Sorry 309

[worldly wedge]

I'd only be taking Athalia with the engraving

[limpid lava]

Ah okay thanks

Is she viable at 4x engrave or she needs 60+

[worldly wedge]

There is however a world where you do use Athalia there and move Oden to help another team's winrate though

And her e60 skill specifically is really strong

+30 sig and e60 are the two big breakpoints

[limpid lava]

Well fuck then

Nothing from that for at least 2 3 months

[limpid lava]

Unfortunately I don't live in that world cause I lack info and to figure that out I need to take time from some people and I don't want to inconvenience them

[limpid lava]

Yeah just saw it

But does that mean for plebs like me

16 or 20% increase

Because does she count in those allies

[worldly wedge]

That's a question for @wise lion

Because honestly I have no idea

[limpid lava]

So from 16 to 24

Well I mean not bad but I don't think it'll be my priority

And I'll settle at 4x or whatever her breakpoint is there somewhere

Until I finish other more important engraves

[opal bone]

Is there a TS investment guide for people that don't have veteran accounts?

[warped igloo]

Might be a little bit easier to help you come up with teams just based on your heroes

[opal bone]

I know which teams to make with what I have, trying to figure out what's worth building.

[warped igloo]

Also you'll have to consider what debuff is on for that week

[warped igloo]

Ah that makes more sense