treasure-scramble

[quartz salmon]

Any tips for me? Maybe I should replace Daimon with LDV no?

[wise lion]

Warek and Skriath without 3F bring nothing to that team other than fodder for Luc SI, and if you want fodder there's better options.
I'd prolly drop Mehira for LDV but tbqh I'm shocked that's a positive win rate as is

[quartz salmon]

Yeah I put Warek and Bird just for fodder lol. And that other team I copied from afkhelper on chap34, people seem to run that a lot . Thanks for the tips

[wise lion]

pve is not the same as pvp. as for fodder, you'd be better off w diff units for formation bonus

[quartz salmon]

For sure, I think I’ll just change that team all together. And for luc team I change them for hypos ?

[dusk tundra]

Post your box

[quartz salmon]

There you go, I think Zaph is a good replacement for Warek in Luc team no?

[dusk tundra]

I’d use Lucretia, Zaphrael, AEzizh, Mortas, Twins

Maybe even Lorsan instead of twins

[quartz salmon]

Alright thanks a lot for the taking the time

And by the way what Raku comps should I use?

[lament bolt]

Will scramble teams work in heroes of Esperia?

[safe harness]

Could anyone suggest some more teams/better teams for me? Currently I’m rank 31 but my 4th and 5th teams r weak

[wise lion]

in a vacuum they prolly would, but different battlefield effects muck things up

[rancid dune]

any tips? or any glaring flaws in the teams?

[wise lion]

skreg w no barricade and no furn doesn't do anything

[rancid dune]

does he need f9? also who do I swap him with?

[shell jungle]

yes, you can try desira

[rancid dune]

my desira is at 000

will she work?

[safe harness]

So should you not use skreg at all in treasure scramble or is he ok with 3 furn?

[dusk tundra]

3F can work

[dusk tundra]

Still better than furnless Skreg

[static bone]

What are best 5 team setups for thiw. I mostly just been using campaign teams but I'm guessing there is better ways to go

[gloomy lichen]

Any suggestion to improve my raku/ldv team? I only have e Zaph

[dense lava]

Probably better to replace Raku with Skriath assuming he is 3F and just turn it into a 5 pull team with Eironn center back line.

[wise lion]

5p is hilariously bad for pvp

[gloomy lichen]

Mayb i just change back to alna gbs + luc cycle + scarlet team

[wise lion]

yeah luc cycle is an easy 65-85% unless you're facing whales. push raku ldv to 4 teams

[dusk tundra]

What makes ldv raku comp? Trying to see if I can squeeze it in with my comps

[wise lion]

@shell jungle I'm drawing a blank rn. can u answer this

[shell jungle]

as in like, who else besides ldv raku? or are you asking why it works

[dusk tundra]

Who else

[shell jungle]

lorsan zol raku ldv kren, you can replace kren for eironn maybe in cases where you wanna test what does better, and you can also try khaz over lorsan for the cc buff

but i just run the lorsan zol raku ldv kren

[dusk tundra]

Hmm currently using Zol in burst

[dusk tundra]

Do you know if ABrutus would work good in burst?

[shell jungle]

yeah he works well in burst from what i’ve heard

personally don’t have him so i can’t 100% make sure of that

[dusk tundra]

Ok no problem. I’ll give him a try

See if he does better than Audrae

I see some using ABrutus in Ainz comp

[shut vessel]

thats what i said

[dusk tundra]

I think this will be my six teams. I’ll play around with ABrutus replacing Grezhul and Audrae in their comps

[dusk tundra]

Yes. I’ll give it a try

[quartz salmon]

Ainz team under 50% wr now?

[frozen crest]

mine's at exactly 50% at top 2%

[rare grove]

Ainz isn't use this debuff atleast for your first 5 teams

I do use it as 6th comp later on

[steady hill]

mine at 30% so i had to replace it

[quartz salmon]

Uhmm alright thanks to the both of you

Do you guys use a Raku team?

[steady hill]

team 3

[quartz salmon]

Oh I just have Raku built lol, waiting for fodders for Astar and Lorsan E+

[crimson sundial]

is there anything i can do to fix this low wr:(

[haughty jasper]

4036e100 all 5 heroes will do

[crimson sundial]

whaa thats.. thank you so much you're right

[dusk tundra]

Don’t use Ainz

[shell jungle]

yes, remove ainz team completely

[dusk tundra]

Top 100 first time 🎉

[rancid dune]

congrats

[dusk tundra]

Thanks, feels great now that we get stargazer cards too. I just hope I stay top 100

[rancid dune]

Now I need to enter top 100

[idle wren]

Hey, what are the best teams at the moment ? (Have this for the moment)

[tiny inlet]

Ainz is poopoo because if debuffs..

[idle wren]

The Estrilda Mishka Lyca Scarlett Raine comp will be better ?

[still heron]

Yeah

[idle wren]

Ok ty !

[sacred notch]

Just scroll up a bit and see what people are using. Ainz isn't too good this debuff and 5p has never been too good in pvp

[clever basin]

idk what I'm doing. I could really use some help

[digital goblet]

This game is weird, I spent the least time on here and I’m doing good, while I struggle to advance anywhere else

[twilit bison]

I need some ideas

[dusk tundra]

What I’m basically using with some changes each division

[steady hill]

which works better?

[dusk tundra]

Probably Lorsan. Skreg isn’t doing much for Saurus

[steady hill]

subs for abrutus?

idk if arthur works

or should i go with M20 atalene instead

[dusk tundra]

Anything really. It’s a last resort comp. If you were running the exact same comps I’d sub in scarlet

[shell jungle]

do you have zol?

[steady hill]

not A yet

[safe harness]

Any suggestions? Current rank is 59

[vast carbon]

whats this team's wr?

[steady hill]

it works sucess on HoE but i didnt used on TS cause astar out

[steady hill]

#classic-questions

[brave pine]

What’s the correct formation for this

[red veldt]

Anyone using Treznor for this TS round?

[red veldt]

I like LdV in the back mid, Khazard can just die because his SI effect lingers. I don’t think Kren really does much this TS

[dusk tundra]

still 4% tho but dang

my luc comp at least usually does 70%+

[nocturne token]

it could do that good?

[dusk tundra]

Only 9 battles

[indigo epoch]

I've seen him used in Ainz, but Ainz kinda weak on this buff

[red veldt]

Thanks. Makes sense

[tame hinge]

My alna gb is getting destroyed lol

[dusk tundra]

Keeping your eyes safe and your sleep schedule on point is all that matters 😏

[tame hinge]

I probably shouldn't be playing my ps5 right now then huh?

[tropic birch]

Whats with the red filter

[steady hill]

which works better

[nocturne token]

hodg maybe

[frozen crest]

bruv half assed luc 5p better wr than other teams

[sage moat]

Last teams are mainly scraps, easier to get good win% with

[frozen crest]

it doesn't mean that your team 4 will always battle with other team 4s does it

[lofty zealot]

no, you won't

[sage moat]

Hmm doesn't look like it, was under the impression it did

Been shifting teams around thinking I'm being big brain by avoiding strong teams lmao

[frozen crest]

kekw

[sage moat]

Team 2 best win% I've managed this round. Thinking of just ditching the ainz comp for next battle

[pastel kiln]

hi

how does the ranking work?

im top 8%.. is it good or...??

[haughty prism]

Depends, there are different regions, for example rn im top 23 of region 63 but I would be clapped by some who is top 10% in region 1

Idk if regions really works in that sense but I guess region 1 is where the old players are

[pastel kiln]

R15

[dusk tundra]

I’d say top 2% is good. Minimum would be at least 10%. I think people who have decently built heroes can get 10%

[pastel kiln]

here are my teams

[still heron]

Rank atm ?

[pastel kiln]

6%

[still heron]

Do u have Scarlet build?

[pastel kiln]

yes

30960

I use her in cycle

[still heron]

U can try this

[pastel kiln]

ok

[sage moat]

Bit of improvement, ainz still weak link, r7

[wise lion]

r7?

oh nvm im dumb. nj!

[vocal egret]

Ainz comp is always my weak link as well

Did better by inserting brutus

[main abyss]

ah yes the well known ainz abrutus comp

[minor copper]

is there a guide to treasure scramble anywhere? im utterly lost

[wise lion]

what do u wanna know?

[minor copper]

well i really know nothing about it, what should i know?

im a returning players on ch 34 rn

i understand its a pvp event where you build various teams but thats about it

[wise lion]

there's two global battlefield effects. one's a stat buff, one's pretty unique and you should read what it does.
you set up your teams. the next day, those teams will automatically fight other teams near your ranking. wins get you more points so you get more rewards.
more points also means more teams, so you'll have to balance out boosting one team or spreading amongst multiple teams.
at the end of the season you get rewards.

[minor copper]

Sounds good thanks a lot my guy

[rancid dune]

I ran out of heroes for team 3...

Tomorrow is gonna be the start of my downfall

[spark prism]

Any advice on salvaging the first two teams?

[hasty scaffold]

You could try replacing the first team with Scarlet comp: Estrilda Mishka Raine Scarlet Lyca

[simple sentinel]

Pretty decent comp

[crimson sundial]

Is Brutus khaz raku pop tasi team good?

[civic sage]

I would replace LDV with Mortas in Ainz and put LDV in raku team

This is what I’m running (Rank 28)

[hasty scaffold]

What's your win rate for Luc 5 pull? Surprisingly, my 5 pull is doing well, around 70%+ win rate. I only ran that because I can't ran cycle but it worked out in the end.

[civic sage]

Mine is 70%

It did better than cycle for me

Im just gonna wait until my twins are 1* to run cycle

[frozen crest]

what's the wr of t4?

[rancid dune]

Thx, ill copy and see how that works

[sage moat]

These two tanking me pretty hard. Graveborn abrutus at 100% not visible. Region 7 4% for reference

[civic sage]

40% rn

It was like 50-60 before when I was just outside t50

[frozen crest]

i see... thanks

[bitter hull]

Does anyone know if scramble game mode takes into effect gear? Or is it standardized gear?

[dusk tundra]

Gear matters

Swapped Lyca out for nonengraved ✨Audrae✨ and went from rank 40 to 70 🤩🤩

[bright light]

how’s ur luc5p’s wr? we’re the same region so I wanna compare it to my luc-cycle

[hasty scaffold]

It was 70% this morning, now checking it's 40% 💀. Maybe because I moved up in rankings? I don't know why

[bright light]

xd ah ok my cycle rarely dropped below 50%, usually ~60% in t50 if u wanna try that

[hasty scaffold]

I don't have Haelus or Twins/Ezizh with good investments. What's your Luc cycle lineup?

[bright light]

it’s actually doing good, I beat ur gb once with cycle

[indigo epoch]

Luc kills things fast, people on my ladder use low invest twins/ezizh.

[bright light]

yeah and u can free up eironn and skriath for potential 6th team

[hasty scaffold]

So it was you who made me drop to 66 😛

[hasty scaffold]

Will try that. I practically don't have a 6th team

[bright light]

lol me too, I’ll just run daimon with 5-pull as 6th I’m running out of options

[bitter hull]

Thought ABrutus might be a good sub in for 5p, but I think Luc does it a bit better

[dusk tundra]

No Alna?

[indigo epoch]

Joan of arc good in scramble?

[dusk tundra]

Yeah she’s pretty good. I’ve used her on invade with ABrutus, AThane comp replacing Hendrik, and Ainz comp

[bitter hull]

No lol. But actually that team without Alna counters the Alna version for whatever reason. My winrate against Alna teams is something like 80%

[tight jackal]

What teams could I make with this

[frozen crest]

gb, ainzbedo, luc5p, raku cc, scarlet

[frozen crest]

what im running, pretty much copied asta's
you should allocate better heroes to scarlet so she could perform better, my scarlet is shit so i didnt care abt her team
currently 2%

[tight jackal]

I only have mishka 3f is that a big problem?

[frozen crest]

prolly, but it would be better than nothing

[bright light]

I don’t think so, mishka’s 9f is really useful in campaign ( it’s pvp tho so stats matter )
Also Astar E+ can work in raku/LDV if mishka can help somewhere else

[tight jackal]

Bruh

[ebon flare]

@civic sage did you try Hodg instead of Saf for 5pull?

I somehow feel like 201e33 Hodg > Saf

[stiff oxide]

Anyone have a good Scarlet comp for TS?

[sacred notch]

Estrilda mishka lyca scarlett raine works well in this round of TS

[sage badger]

i replaced lyca with rowan since i’m using her in a different comp and it’s my highest wr team

[nocturne token]

wr totally depends on regions

[sage badger]

true just saying it does well from my experience

[stiff oxide]

I'm using mishka and lyca in my burst comp. Who could I use in the burst comp instead?

[sacred notch]

Send screenshots of teams

[dusk tundra]

I usually sub Lyca with Astar

But you could also use Lorsan, preferably with 9F

[dusk tundra]

Team 2
I’d recommend Ezio in place of Mortas. Even Leonardo might be better. If you don’t have them then Mortas is still a good choice.

Team 4

• Use Eironn over Zaphrael. Zaphrael is a very fragile carry. He won’t be doing to much at L. Eironn was used in the original burst come and, if he’s already invested in, he will be much more useful than Zaph.
• Use Astar over Lyca. This is to free up Lyca for another comp. Astar has good synergy with burst comp with her defense buff and shields. She can also do a lot of damage.

Team 5

• Use Lyca instead of Brutus. Hendrik can be used over Desira, if you have him ascended.

Team 6

• Make a completely different comp. I see what you’re going for however none of them are at their minimum to be effective. Framton needs E30 and high ascension because he is the carry. Skreg needs furniture to even be useful and you would want that to be 9F. ATalene will be weak and fragile. Without 9F she takes too long to revive.

[stiff oxide]

Thank you so much. Basically all 4F heroes are A. I haven't invested in any awakened heroes yet. Didn't know framton was carry, thanks. Team 6 is just a "random bullshit go" I have no idea for teams 6/7

[dusk tundra]

Post your box and I can try to help

[spiral zenith]

👆

Team 6 please

[dusk tundra]

Brutus, Talene, LDV, Raku, Khazard/Kren

[spiral zenith]

What is LDV?

[dusk tundra]

Leonardo

[spiral zenith]

Oh ok

Thanks a lot

[stiff oxide]

Thanks eggplant

[dusk tundra]

lucretia supremacy

[frozen crest]

better luc wins

[civic sage]

No

I switched to cycle now anyway

[pure venture]

Any comp advice appreciated thanks

Have basically all core 4f hero's

[tight jackal]

Any way to improve this?

[golden galleon]

tips for two last teams

[cold wharf]

4 and 5 team s*ck

[minor copper]

2 of my team's suck major ass any help?

[viscid hare]

Hi all. Any advice on how i could better adjust these teams? I've played around with a few variations.. here's an example of what i have set for 5 and 7 teams respectively. I do not have ABrutus.. but any better suggestions are very welcome, and thanks! :D

[dusk tundra]

Should I keep Anasta in? 💀

[worldly wedge]

Anasta needs a lot more investment than what you've got

[dusk tundra]

Yeah I know. Was just testing her over morael. I wasn’t expecting anything great but I also Didn’t think she’d do 0 damage every time

[sage moat]

I believe adjusting your scarlet comp will get better win % and free up something else more viable

Screenshot from older round as my current report got missed up not having updated teams for 6 team lineups

Been the 2nd best performing team for me after a brutus graveborns

[static bone]

Any idea what I can do to help them last 2 teams.

[bright light]

split scarlet and raku, that’d fix ur 5th team
not sure about 6th team, but u can try astar 5-pull or some kind of burst + luc cycle instead of luc5p

[static bone]

Swap scarlet with who for team 1. Then what do I build around scarlet for team 5

That's my box

[bright light]

scarlet, mishka, raine, scarlet, lyca

[static bone]

In like 600 points id be going to 7 teams as well I think

[bright light]

not sure about raku/LDV, u can check previous comps in this channel
I’m using Atalene, astar, raku, LDV, kren

[static bone]

I only have a l+ atalene

[bright light]

that’s tough for most players, 10-20% wr seems avg for f2p

[bright light]

I think that’d still work, u can try and see how it works
mine M+30 but ur astar is better than mine since I’m using her at E+ xd

[static bone]

How often do team changes take affect

[bright light]

twice everyday

[static bone]

Ok 1 sec

@bright light

I swapped the scarlet and raku teams around. And I swapped diamon to gb team and moved alna to a team with luc

Then just made a remaining 5pull team with what I had left

Idk if this will be worse or not. Guess I'll see on next rankings. Unless someone can share any advice before then

[outer zinc]

Anyone have tips for my last two teams? They’re both just random since I wasn’t sure what else could be possible. The heroes marked in Red are the ones on other winning teams.

[bright light]

imo, swap LDV and astar positions for team 1
return Alna to gb as it’ll be bad without her and try luc with either 5-pull or cycle. I’m running budget cycle with luc, M twins, E+ desira, rowan, E ezizh and it works with 60% wr

[static bone]

What's cycle

Only reason I had lvd upfront was from his 30 sig

[bright light]

it’s all around ezizh, twins, rowan for energy cycle.
looking at my replays, twins always gets 1 ult off then usually die but luc does the job fine

[bright light]

his cannon deals decent dmg when he’s mid back I think

[static bone]

My twins are also on leg

[bright light]

try it out and maybe put them backline if needed, it depends on ur region and what rank are you.
higher rank and old regions would always require higher investments

[static bone]

I'm region 64 rank 60 I think

If that means anything

[bright light]

that’s decent, can’t tell tbh if cycle would work or not, but I’d give it a try

[static bone]

Yeah I'll see how this next set of battles go after the swap takes affect and then adjust from there

Any idea what time frame the formations adjustments go into affect

[static bone]

Thx

[dusk tundra]

guys i don’t think stall is working for me

it just updated to 5% wr now lmaoo

[dusk tundra]

By numbers my stall is exactly x2 better than yours 😏

[sage moat]

Ohh some sweet progress, starting to be pretty happy with my lineup. 7th is gonna be random bs though.

[dusk tundra]

whale

[brave pine]

Brooooo I was top 2%

why are comps locked in

[dusk tundra]

309e60 ainz but no albedo?

[bitter hull]

No Albedo is sus

[frozen crest]

https://tenor.com/view/crycat-crying-cat-crying-cat-thumbs-up-thumbs-up-ok-gif-22851318

[brave pine]

Is there a better team/formation for team 3/6?

[gloomy lichen]

ainz team with 86% wow. mine is only like 40 sth

[rare grove]

Make a proper 5pull for team 6 and uhm, separate luc from gb. Make a luc cycle then a standard alna gb

[brave pine]

these were the teams that @dusk tundra gave me, though that was for HoE

[rare grove]

It also works for scramble for these debuff, atleast on my region

[brave pine]

but yeah with rowan and stuff free I guess I could cycle

will miss that juicy 93% wr though

[brave pine]

Does M haelus work in luc cycle

Also with 5p is it just the basic safiya/tidus one? I dont have tidus built muchj

[signal crater]

Anything glaringly wrong with team 5/6?

[rare grove]

You can try him or desira

[tight jackal]

@frozen crest what is your 6th team

[frozen crest]

@tight jackal random 0% trash.

[tight jackal]

Oof

[gloomy lichen]

Any way to improve team 4. It did well before but wr dropped from 40+ to 30 this round.

[dusk tundra]

Replace Saurus with Lyca Mishka or Raku

niru

[light nova]

🧍‍♂️

That’s all? Nice

Ez wins

[dusk tundra]

im still at 6 teams sorry

[light nova]

Oh I’m at 5 teams for some reason, I just like to make the teams before I get to them

Yk what

[dusk tundra]

at that point ill throw in random trash

[light nova]

Idk what I’m doing 😍

Pls ping me if u answer 🧍‍♂️

[dusk tundra]

Post your box

[dusk tundra]

Regions and ranking are so different that I can’t even relate lol. For example, that Ainz comp would get me less than 10% WR 🥴. I assume you can just use any solid comp and get a good %.

1. Same
2. Estrilda, Hendrik, Raine, Scarlet, Rosaline
3. Lucretia, Twins, Ezizh, Rowan, Haelus
4. Alna, Grez, Ferael, Silas, Oden
5. same
6. Lyca, Mishka, Lorsan, Eironn, Astar

[mortal terrace]

did you guys get daily rewards today?

I neither got gold, nor exp nor any other ressource

(above 5000 points in current cycle)

[cold ridge]

Restart the game

[mortal terrace]

didnt help

[dusk tundra]

seems like a bug where you dont get all daily fights in

2%

region 10

[bitter hull]

Eluard or Desira more worth to build to Si30 9/9?

Looking to replace Haelus in my comps as too many damn ppl want him

[red veldt]

I find Desira useful to amazing in most game modes at 309e30

Which is a high investment, tbh, but I’ve gotten a lot out of her for that investment

[dusk tundra]

You’ll have more use with Desira. Eluard is niche

Also Skreg > Eluard

[bitter hull]

Yeah working on Skreg 9f right now. But gonna keep him at SI20

Sounds good I’ll go Desira first

Just saw many ppl rocking a built Eluard for their Lucy, AThane, even ABrutus comps

[brave pine]

interesting, I had eluard on my list for a while and have some furn for him

[toxic crypt]

Eluard only better than Haelus, if You’re facing an invade.
So haelus Way better overall

(In cycle)

[worldly linden]

Any kind soul wanna help me with TS teams? I can post more bags if need be

I know basically very little pvp on top of my very little game knowledge 🥹😞

[toxic crypt]

I have No idea about The mode, But for regulær pvp, ypu could run GBs, Grezhul, Daimon, oden, Silas, ferael as one team

Not sure about The others

[worldly linden]

I appreciate all the help I can get ❤️

[toxic crypt]

I am shit at teams, without The right components

[static bone]

Bah this team 6 and soon to be team 7 will be the death of me. Any ideas what I can do to help out team 6.

[fathom shale]

Having a hard time putting a full 7 teams if anyone has suggestions

[toxic crypt]

Baba really needs e60 to be “good”

Just run Desira instead

[static bone]

I don't particularly have anything good left. I was kinda just using whatever I had left with decent si or furn

That's my box @toxic crypt most of it ofc is used in first 5 teams. But if I have any idea for a team 6 and even 7 let me know

[toxic crypt]

No idea, I dont understand The mode completely as I quit

[static bone]

Ah np

[bitter hull]

Any way to make team 6 and 2 better? Arthur or Ezio I was thinking… and not sure how much Numisu is doing in team 6

[light nova]

Here

[night folio]

@static bone what region are you and what rank for reference?

[static bone]

Region 64 rank 45

[dusk tundra]

It might be better to make 5 strong teams

[dusk tundra]

You don’t have much to work with tbh. I don’t know how to help. Sorry

[fathom shale]

Fair enough, any suggestions?

[gloomy lichen]

What do u think about my last team

[worldly wedge]

Team 2 your biggest thing is swapping Merlin and Ezio placements, for team 6 most impactful change would be to sub Numisu, issue is I don't believe you've got many good alternatives.

PS.

Team 5 swap Scarlet and Haelus is commonly most effective

Team 4 I'd invert, so Mishka Zol Audrae Lyca Athalia, also validation to move Athalia to 4 and Lyca to 5 as to not lose in burst vs Zaph

Also Framton not in slot 4 is an odd decision but may be because of your use of Oden, I'm unsure but I'd wager you're better off using just one of them and not both and using the other to boost another team, depends on how well you're already doing though

[worldly wedge]

Cut Thoran for a more agressive hero if you're not gonna make use of his taint, cut Tasi otherwise in favor of a hero who will punish a tainted enemy in some form, the rest is fine

[dusk tundra]

1. Alna, Grez, Ferael, Silas, Oden
2. Zolroth, Mishka, Lorsan, Astar, Lyca
3. Lucretia, Twins, Ezizh, Rowan, Skreg
4. Estrilda, Hendrik, Raine, Scarlet, Ezio
5. Albedo, Eironn, Raku, Leonardo, Merlin
6. random bs

[fathom shale]

And 7 more BS sounds good to me lmao, thank you 👍

[gloomy lichen]

Thx

[worldly wedge]

Why've you got Astar in slot 4 here over Lyca, and why not use an alternatively viable hero like Hodgekin in cycle and then create a Kren invade type team? Also worth noting that as soon as/if any furn is obtained for Hendrik he's better in slot 5 protecting scarlet than in 2

[dusk tundra]

I wasn’t thinking about positions. Just naming heroes.

[worldly wedge]

Ah, may be worth adjusting that, not trying to shame just trying to understand thought process

[worldly wedge]

Worth noting that to help, Alna Izold is a Nonbo, meaning they have direct anti synergy where Izold wants to take damage to ramp up and Alna stops that completely, much better off with Daimon in that slot, from there decent CC or semi agressive backliners shoulda help, it won't be a great team but better than 6%. There's also a world where you take Karen from Raku and make a separate Kren comp

[worldly wedge]

If you're gonna use Eironn + Zol in the same burst team, use Eironn front with Zolrath behind him, really old tech but allows for a massive amount of burst which paired with a Lorsan link may be enough to win more often

[worldly wedge]

See this SS for similar team with even slightly higher rates at a much lower percentage

[dusk tundra]

Me next 😀

[worldly wedge]

I'd need to see your winrates and roster for any level of advice

[dusk tundra]

ok ty

[dusk tundra]

Win rate - top 100

Team for next round

Box

[dusk tundra]

Don’t leave me 😢

[worldly wedge]

Okay gotta quick fire this given lack of time

A) Orthros is losing value on backline, make Joan backline if anything but I'd actually move Joan to another team instead and use another protective or buffing unit, probably Raine in this case

Team 2 is fine, I prefer Fera to Oden but whatever is working for you

Team 3 is very very bad, you mixed two cores together on a late phase, ABrutus Skreg and ATalene Framton make up two different cores that usually should be separate come later rounds. Make this a normal ABrutus team. ABrutus Talene Flora Skreg + another support hero, chicken is actually used a decent bit here as is alaro or Anasta

Team 4 - We need to save Astar for another core. Use Lorsan or even your AEzizh here. Also Zaph goes in slot 4.

Team 5 is fine.

Team 6 should be changed to a totally different but meta core of

Daimon Astar Morael Framton ATalene

Team 7 I'd run a standard Ainz set, use LDV + Ezio with Ainz Albedo Merlin, should put up fine results

[static bone]

When do battles pick back up. I haven't had a battle for like 8h

[worldly wedge]

11 minutes they theorically start

[dusk tundra]

❤️ just in time

[worldly wedge]

Oh when I said move Joan, use her in your ABrutus team as that 5th slot

Here's my upcoming teams as an example, although keep in mind investment difference

[dusk tundra]

Also I ran Ainz in 6 team and got 10%

[worldly wedge]

Did you run with similar placements to that shown?

My Ainz has never done worse than 30% and that's up against a whale even larger than myself

[dusk tundra]

Should I do the same as your team 5?

No engrave mez

[worldly wedge]

I wouldn't, Mezoth needs a lot from engravings and secondary stats to succeed and even then I'm not sure he's optimal

[dusk tundra]

Placement good?

[worldly wedge]

Swap cycle to how it was succeeding prior. And move AThane to 4 again, everything else seems fine

[dusk tundra]

Alright here we go. Thanks

[worldly wedge]

Best of luck, last day is the most important

[dusk tundra]

Now to work on engraving Athalia and Audrae

[worldly wedge]

I'm 20 points behind my #1 rn so we'll see if I catch up

[dusk tundra]

Good luck to you as well

[brave pine]

My scar wilders team had like 87% this sux, who should I run stall or 5p

or is this just unlucky

[dusk tundra]

Definitely not stall. What’s your total WR?

Show all teams

[dusk tundra]

my shit stall apparently isn’t the worst i could do lol

[dusk tundra]

At least, they were consistent

[gloomy lichen]

LUL

[dawn coral]

What’s your region bro?

[dusk tundra]

AThane is an automatic dub

https://tenor.com/view/baby-goat-gif-25325646

G.O.A.T.

[static bone]

Team 6 and 7 are doing better than I thought. Tried an experiment to see if alna could keep kren alive. I guess it's kinda working but not great

[rare grove]

Fingers crossed not to drop out of top 100

[hasty scaffold]

Yeah me too 🤞. Last push

[static bone]

Same. I'm sitting 35 now but no idea if I can push 20 or fall off

[dusk tundra]

I'd like to think you secured top 100 if you're at 35

[static bone]

Yeah I'm not sure this is really the 1st scramble I actually participated in

[dusk tundra]

youre good

already at 7 teams and at 50% wr. youre not going anywhere 😮‍💨

[bitter hull]

Last day for 6 teams for me.. region 2

[dusk tundra]

Audrae 😮‍💨 I need to build mine. shes been at A since release

[rare grove]

🤞 I'll get top 50 lol

[quartz salmon]

Any tips for a sixth team ? Currently running random heroes

Kren Numisu Raine Skreg AThalene maybe?

[dusk tundra]

probably the bes tyou can do

[quartz salmon]

Yeah :/ and maybe bird guy instead of raine no?

Raine E+ prolly won’t help

[dusk tundra]

yeah do that

[quartz salmon]

Ok thanks 😉

[worldly wedge]

R5

[warped sundial]

why lewd

[dusk tundra]

Not too bad for team 6 and 7 😌

[dusk tundra]

Drop out of 50 last minute 😢

[bitter hull]

Top 4% region 2

[limpid horizon]

Rank35 idk what i can improve on my teams anymore

[worldly wedge]

A) Use Zol beyond Eironn when using Eironn in burst, makes for a much better combo although I doubt you should even be using Eironn at all.

B) your later two teams make absolutely no sense, the concept of an invade Skreg team is good but your only support for it is prince, and then the heroes who'd actually have any sort of payoff like Ezio or Hodgkin are in your other team. I'd suggest making one team a proper GB centered aggressive CC team, and then the other a Skreg Kren invade esque team

[sage moat]

Aww can't see final win% for formations... Managed to get #94 on region 7 which is way higher than I should get based on account strength. Thanks all for the ideas and suggestions for lineups! Copied plenty of you throughout this run :D

[icy spruce]

Managed to get top 2% running my campaign teams and random units, wanted to get some advice on how I could squeeze the most out of my roster for this mode. I don’t know how to build pvp teams but I’d like to try to maintain this rank. I know the season mechanics change things but some generic teams would be much appreciated.

[dusk tundra]

wow i got ONE single red core at the end

[icy spruce]

You’ll be e60 in no time

[dusk tundra]

only 4,499 more ts seasons till i get funny red stars

[dusk tundra]

I’m sure you’ll eventually get two cores

[limpid horizon]

What does skreg inavde looks like in pvp? I have antandra and kren both at 309 e30 but dont know where to put them

[desert spade]

Why are the rewards still bad?

[cold ridge]

Mid- and end season rewards are great, just the afk rewards are laughable 😂

[lofty zealot]

rewards are bad if you have a shitty rank and do poorly

[shell jungle]

^

[pastel kiln]

they should fix max rewards at 10%...after just some comestics skins chat emojii...

[nocturne token]

how can they make profit with giving max rewards at 10%?

[pastel kiln]

not sure it will change a lot... they have numbers of asian kraken on every new server so...

[civic sage]

Why would that happen?

[nocturne token]

their main income probably not from some hundreds of krakens, but from thousands of dolphins/small whales. Krakens dont care about rewards (and they would spend anyways), but those spenders who are willing to spend even more to reach top 100/ top20 would make the actual profit. giving everything at 10% would just kill their business

[lusty jungle]

corn why you making so much sense

[sacred notch]

What rank did U place?

[desert spade]

Somewhere in the upper 5000s.

The division before the final one.

Just a few elemental shards. 7, really.

[sacred notch]

What was that in terms of percent?

Like top 2% etc

[desert spade]

Like, top 30%.

[sacred notch]

Oof

U wanna aim for at least 10% since that's when rewards start getting decent

[static bone]

I was top 100 without any recent spending. Just advice for team comps here. And found the rewards to be pretty good for not spending.

I wouldn't spend to make the top 100 tho. Would be cheaper to buy the items out right

[civic sage]

Well I can say, the competition in new servers vs old servers is drastically different

I got t50, and my PvP investments are horrible

[sacred notch]

I got 2% the last 2 cycles. The 2nd ever cycle I placed like top100

It's all about ur region and investments

And if have decent team comps

[static bone]

How do you come to the idea of ideal teams for certain treasure scrambles. Is it from the buff for the season?

[wise lion]

more or less. there's a baseline level of understanding of "standard" meta comps, then modified to best take adv of a good buff or avoid a bad buff.

[static bone]

Got ya. Thank you

I don't play this as a full time game so I always seem to be behind on game knowledge

[icy spruce]

Could anyone help me with my lineups for this season?

[frozen crest]

any ideas which first 2 teams would be good this debuff?

[sacred notch]

No LDV?

[frozen crest]

there is, forgot to edit it

[gloomy lichen]

Burst, luc, 5pull, scarlet should b good i guess

[restive granite]

I'm asking because I don't see any pins - is there a guide for TS yet?

[zinc canyon]

there is no guide, there is a lot of screenshots in this chat, its shared a lot, different teams and wr, you should check them and try to build something and see what works for you

at least here in discord, i dont think there is a guide

[civic sage]

No

These are the teams I will run for 7 teams I think

I need to find a skreg replacement in luc cycle tho

[steady hill]

gonna try left side now

[civic sage]

Astar5p looks troll (and it is) but for me it’s around 40% and can beat meta comps like Ainz

[limpid lava]

Any help maybe with first 3 4 teams

[still heron]

Copy Asta's teams

[limpid lava]

I kind of get the gist of what my teams will be but I don't know which ones would go first

Oh you mean the picture above mine

[civic sage]

Use Alna instead of Daimon though

And you should probably start with Alna Luc, if you aren’t using her in cycle

[limpid lava]

I was thinking of using in cycle but depends what would be the first teams

[civic sage]

First 2/3 I wouldn’t run cycle

I think the best starting ones are: Ainz/Scarlet/GBs

I can’t remember which 2 are best though, I’m just going to try Scarlet/GBs first

[still heron]

Try this

[civic sage]

What are those whale teams

[gloomy lichen]

Rosaline or lyca better in scarlet comp?

[still heron]

Rosaline

[steady hill]

would y’all believe me that team 4 works

[indigo epoch]

On last buff

Are there any good abrutus comps on this buff?

[steady hill]

wait this TS has a different buff?

[still heron]

Yes

[stable mantle]

New to this event. Any tip? And which route to choose?

[civic sage]

Ainz will probably do better this buff

[steady hill]

yeaa

i just realized the buff then i reverted to the old ways

[civic sage]

Examples of teams, route is just rng

I might garrison Ezio for TS

He is better than Arthur for your team 4 I’m pretty sure

[stable mantle]

Ok thanks

[civic sage]

For team 1 you’d preferably run AlnaLuc

[steady hill]

true arthur meh

fixed it sort of

if only i hab abrutus

[civic sage]

RakuLDV without Zolrath better than luc cycle?

[steady hill]

team 1 brought me sucess, although i want to do lucy cycle for team 3 i think this will work for me hoping it will get decent results

might wanna replace lorsan with lyca but i think lorsan will be better for this buff

[stable mantle]

Don’t have hero I think

[civic sage]

Show your box

[stable mantle]

Am I at least building my hero right? I know I don’t have the best hero lol

[civic sage]

Oh rip

[stable mantle]

Yeah rip me. The hypo hero I have are not meta

[civic sage]

You won’t be able to run most of the meta comps

I think you can try GBs and a Scarlet team

Try to get Scarlet to +20

[stable mantle]

Ok I can do that rn

Then what comp to run scarlet on ?

[civic sage]

Estrilda Mishka Lyca Scarlet Rowan

Poverty

Comp

But it is probably the best you can do

Then you could do Daimon Brutus Silas ferael oden

For GBs

[quartz salmon]

Is Ainz comp good now?

[indigo epoch]

Yes, but I think you need to run ldv or you lose a lot to scarlet burst

[quartz salmon]

Gotcha thanks

[tight jackal]

I need ldv in ldv raku tho

[quartz salmon]

Scarlet comp Luc cycle and Ainz comp seems good?

[quartz salmon]

You could do mehira charm then

[frozen crest]

or pop

[quartz salmon]

Instead of LDV?

For Ainz comp I mean

[tight jackal]

Dont have pop

[civic sage]

Mortas

[frozen crest]

i mean pop on raku if ldv on ainz

[civic sage]

Luc Cycle is a later comp

[quartz salmon]

Team 4 maybe?

[civic sage]

Yeah, perhaps

[quartz salmon]

Alright ty

[civic sage]

I'll need to compare LDV Raku to Luc cycle

LDV Raku is better with Zolrath iirc, not sure about without

[tight jackal]

This fine?

[civic sage]

I'd try swap out Rowan for LDV

and put PoP with Raku like Raku Enthusiast suggested

Rowan in Ainz comp isn't that good

[tight jackal]

I dont have pop

[civic sage]

Oh, I missed that msg

[frozen crest]

i reckon he's on scarlet?

[civic sage]

should be fine then

[tight jackal]

Alr

[civic sage]

He's alright in Scarlet

but there's better options

Mishka Estrilda Lyca Scarlet Raine, seems to be the most common variant.
Although my Raine buffs Mishka so I don't run that

[quartz salmon]

What about Daimon frontline ? Don’t you have Thoran instead maybe

[civic sage]

Thoran is better than Daimon?

I run Daimon myself

might need to try that 😅

[quartz salmon]

Idk it’s just diamon being frontline that bothers me

[frozen crest]

i tried brutus last time, results were similar with daimon

[quartz salmon]

Frontline aswell?

[frozen crest]

yeah

[quartz salmon]

Oh nice

[civic sage]

This is what I tried

Brutus did far worse for me

so I just stuck to Daimon frontline

[frozen crest]

i see. any ideas with hodgkin tho?

[quartz salmon]

You think this works well with no investment in Raine and Estrilda?

[tight jackal]

Speaking of Hodgkin what si and furn does he need

And when

[quartz salmon]

He’s on of the later heroes to build I think

[tight jackal]

Oh alr

[quartz salmon]

I wouldn’t worry too much about him for now

[civic sage]

Raine needs SI and Estrilda is fine at low investment

doesn't need her 3F for TS

[tight jackal]

Because i have him A but dont even have him on crystal

[civic sage]

209

[quartz salmon]

But if you have him M I think +20 is good for Temporal rift

[quartz salmon]

Uhmm Raine at E+ :/

[tight jackal]

Probably not then

[civic sage]

Try use Rowan

[quartz salmon]

I think I’ll run Twins Rosa for Scarlet cause I think Rowan is a must have for Raku comp

Do you think rowan frontline is ok or it’s a bad idea? I’m running Mishka Rowan front and Lyca Mehira Raku

[civic sage]

Why?

[civic sage]

I wouldn't run charm in PvP

[quartz salmon]

Idk it’s always the team with the least success

Oh x)

So I drop Mehira then

[civic sage]

Yes

[quartz salmon]

For who do you think?

[civic sage]

LDV

and Raku are a good pair

[quartz salmon]

Yeah ok ty

[civic sage]

I'm running Atalene Astar Raku LDV Kren

[quartz salmon]

But then Ainz comp will run with only 2 dims

[civic sage]

but you can sub Atalene/Astar for Lorsan/Brutus I think

[civic sage]

No Arthur?

[quartz salmon]

Nope.... :/

I join the server pretty late so I did a lot of bad decisions

Like buying Shemiras......

[civic sage]

I'd keep LDV in Ainz then

but don't run Charm in PvP

[quartz salmon]

Ok seems good

I’ll do GBs then I think

Ty

[civic sage]

Yeah you should

I'm running Scarlet/GBs as my initial 2

then adding Ainz

and for 4 teams either Luc Cycle/Raku LDV

[indigo epoch]

Yeah, you split LDV into separate comp when you need to. Ainz still does good, but at 2-3 teams you might face a lot of scarlet.

[tight jackal]

It is what it is

[stable mantle]

Ok thank you so much

[limpid lava]

But with what do you swap ldv in ainz comp

[civic sage]

I'm going to try Mortas

[limpid lava]

But isn't ainz comp merlin albedo ainz ldv mortas

[civic sage]

I mean Arthur

thought I put Arthur instead of Mortas in my teams above

I think I'm going to run Arthur instead of Mortas in early teams with LDV though

don't think Mortas will change much

[limpid lava]

I might see first place comps and see what comps they use

For ainz

[civic sage]

Ainz/Albedo/LDV/Merlin is a must ofc

just between Arthur/Mortas

but the enemy gets large bonuses upon an ally death so I doubt Mortas is better than Arthur since he can easily be killed

[sullen zenith]

Does the current treasure scramble have the same hero meta as the last one?

I had something like this because Ainz and GBs weren't as consistent in the last run.

Or should I go back to starting with Ainz and GBs

[cold wharf]

Which is better?

[fading osprey]

I'd do alna luc gb instead of luc cycle

[ebon flare]

This is burst meta rather than sustain

[sullen zenith]

Are GBs more of a sustain? They seem to take longer

[ebon flare]

If you have Athalia they have enough burst to make use of the buff

Even without the dmg buff makes Oden a monster

[sullen zenith]

Gotcha thanks I'll try what dxtr put down for Lucretia/Alna/Athalia/Oden

[ebon flare]

I'm starting with Mishka GBs + Ainz w/ Rowan for reference

[fading osprey]

Would say left

[ebon flare]

Granted I don't have Ath or Haelus/Zol built so I can't really run proper burst or cycle comps

[ebon flare]

What's your GB team? Hodge GBs?

[sullen zenith]

I thought true Burst needs Zaph which I don't have

[ebon flare]

There are a lot of burst variants, not sure which is best for TS

[cold wharf]

Thanks)

[fading osprey]

U can do burst without zaph

[sullen zenith]

What should a non Zaph burst look like? Lyca, Astar, Zolrath, Lorsan...and 5th?

[sacred notch]

Maybe Eironn?

[wise lion]

Dafuq is true burst? There's like 80 diff variants of burst. What makes one true?

[sullen zenith]

ideal burst? I dunno, never been successful with one

[civic sage]

Daimon GBs

[fading osprey]

I've been using this comp a lot

[civic sage]

Don't run Cycle until 4th/5th team

[ebon flare]

lmk how that goes - I'm running Mishka GBs + Rowan Ainz to open and I'm curious about whether Scarlet > Ainz

[civic sage]

Pretty sure Scarlet is better than Ainz

never run Rowan in Ainz

I think you're pretty past that point now

[ebon flare]

LDV > Rowan then?

[civic sage]

Certainly, apparently LDV is insane this buff

[ebon flare]

Would not have thought that. Why is it so?

[civic sage]

he can destroy cycle teams with his ult

and since this is an offensive buff

[sullen zenith]

Thanks. Since it shares so many heroes with my Scarlett comp I wonder which is better with buffs this time...

[ebon flare]

But who runs cycle in early rounds?

[civic sage]

LDV can kill the enemies before Ainz even gets a chance to ult sometimes

[civic sage]

Noobs

free points from ppl who don't know what they're doing

and run cycle since they don't check their teams

[ebon flare]

lol true

[civic sage]

and it's strong against other teams as well

[fading osprey]

Imo scarlet should do better

[sullen zenith]

Thanks @OnionBros I'll stick with this then

[ebon flare]

Generally this rotation seems like it's Burst/Scarlet/Ainz/GBs > Cycle > Raku cc > misc, but I'm not positive since I can't run proper cycle or burst

[civic sage]

Apparently Raku cc is also better than cycle

[rare grove]

Scarlet burst better than ldv raku burst?

[fading osprey]

I'm using almost the same two teams

[ebon flare]

That's actually surprising to me 😮

[rare grove]

I haven't tried scarlet burst on this buff, but been successful with raku ldv burst

[civic sage]

Pretty sure it's Scarlet/GBs/Burst > Ainz > Raku cc > Cycle

[civic sage]

I think so yeah

[rare grove]

Oh

[civic sage]

Isn't that what everyone ran last time?

unless I'm mistaken

[fading osprey]

What's raku cc ?

[wise lion]

LDV's ult has nothing to do with this buff since it'll be >12s when he casts it, and cycle teams have control immunity every time twins ults so that is far from guaranteed

[civic sage]

just Raku + LDV and some other heroes depending on your box

[rare grove]

Idk actually, didn't really put emphasis on it

[civic sage]

the cannon then?

[rare grove]

Ig I will try that scarlet burst early

[wise lion]

pretty much. massacres backlines

[ebon flare]

Needs +30? Or 00 still works?

[civic sage]

Should I +20 LDV then or is he fine at +0 then?

[wise lion]

? why would he ever need +30, the ability that does exactly nothing?

[wise lion]

+20 is pretty big if u want cannon dmg

[ebon flare]

Oh, meant to type +20*

my mistake

[rare grove]

ldv cannon shreds with this buff

[sullen zenith]

Should Ainz comp include M Mortas or 309E60 LDV or someone else for this scramble?

[civic sage]

LDV

[wise lion]

from my testing, the +20 is actually 0-95% dmg increase instead of the stated 0-80%, so it's even better than advertised. he just doesn't cast cannon that often - most often a one and done in PVP

[sullen zenith]

Thanks!

[civic sage]

I'm not sure if Merlin Albedo Ainz LDV Mortas

is better than Arthur Albedo Ainz LDV Merlin

I think the Arthur version is better? But we'll have to see

[sullen zenith]

Interesting. Didn't think to remove Arthur

[civic sage]

I think keeping him is good

since he might die early

[sullen zenith]

Or even Ezio...is he quick enough?

[civic sage]

but I'm not certain on that

[ebon flare]

I'm running this one with LDV and Ainz behind Arthur

[civic sage]

I don't think Ezio is used that much in Ainz comp

in this cycle

last cycle the meta comp was smth like Albedo Ezio Atalene Astar Merlin I think

since Ainz was bad

[civic sage]

yeah that's what I'm doing as well

[ebon flare]

I wonder if PoP has a place in this meta for a jank burst

As a Zaph sub

[civic sage]

I think I'm going to garrison Ezio alongside Queen instead of PoP

[sullen zenith]

That's funny. Never even though about this combination. Still decent for this cycle?

[civic sage]

I don't think so

since this one favors more offensive comps

[civic sage]

Unless I need PoP later on for Campaign but I don't think I do

[sullen zenith]

Gotcha. I wonder what Team 4 should be. Currently Eironn Zol AwakTalene Lorsan Astar. Mishka/Lyca are already with Scarlett.

[civic sage]

Eirron Mishka Zol Lyca Flex

is better I'm pretty sure

Oh didn't read the last part of your sentence

[sullen zenith]

Then my Scarlett seems a bit naked

[ebon flare]

PoP is great early dps/cc but falls off pretty hard in multis. Super squishy and his dps is nothing, but his rng is insanely painful most of the time. I still use him as a Zaph replacement but the moment I get Zaph PoP is getting dusted

[civic sage]

For 4 teams I'd then just do Ainz/AlnaLuc/Scarlet/RakuLDV probably

[sullen zenith]

Looks like this. Any tweaks to make?

[civic sage]

You'd probably want to take LDV out of Ainz and put him in Team 3

[sullen zenith]

Ah Raku. Never used him in PvP. I can try that thanks.

[ebon flare]

Is Alna Luc GBs > Alna Grez GBs? No Athalia

[civic sage]

Yeah, that's what I'm thinking too. I have a lot of cc options, don't think PoP is needed rn

[fading osprey]

And u don't want to put ainz in 1st team

[civic sage]

Yes

[ebon flare]

huh, good to know

[civic sage]

I am running Grezhul Lucretia frontline

[ebon flare]

Just got 309 Alna so I"m figuring out comps now

[sullen zenith]

I thought the ordering was all random. I guess team 1 means something?

[ebon flare]

Ordering is random. Each team goes off on its own and battles random teams from random opponents, there's no correlation between slot and success

[fading osprey]

Team 1 fight against other people's team 1 no ?

[shut vessel]

No

[ebon flare]

I don't think so, pretty sure it's random

"During the event, all players' individual teams will explore and battle independently of one another"

Implies that order is irrelevant

[civic sage]

Take out LDV in Ainz, and put in Mortas. After that you want LDV in team 3

not sure the specific comp for Raku LDV with Zolrath

I'm running Atalene Astar Raku LDV Kren, no idea if it's optimal

[sullen zenith]

Gotcha

[ebon flare]

Oh pretty similar to mine, just Grez for Astar and my Atalene is L+. Might pop Rowan instead of Grez tbh

[civic sage]

Grezhul in LDV Raku, never though about that tbh

well I don't have a choice since I use him in GBs, not sure if Grezhul is good there though

[fading osprey]

Right, I must have misread it at some point

[ebon flare]

Ye, no idea personally. Early one-time cc is nice, and he's vaguely tanky. I'm trying to decide between Grez, Rowan, and Thoran to pair with Atalene frontline

[civic sage]

no Astar?

[ebon flare]

I'm leaning more Rowan for quicker Kren/LDV/Atalene ult

[ebon flare]

E+ 😢

[civic sage]

or maybe even Lorsan

I think ppl use him in RakuLDV

[ebon flare]

huh

That does make some sense

[still heron]

Is this good ?

[ebon flare]

Looks good to me. Ath for Oden if you have her I guess

[civic sage]

Team 4
I could be completely wrong, but I think LDV is better in Team 4 than Ainz at that point

[still heron]

Only E+

[ebon flare]

prob not then

[sullen zenith]

In Scarlett comp I usually see her with Raine and Estrilda. Would Zolrath be better than one of them given burst-y nature?

[civic sage]

Let me ask my guildmate to see what he is doing

[still heron]

Like this ?

Ooops

@civic sage

[dusk tundra]

put zolrath behind eiron for more burst

[civic sage]

Apparently, scrap Eirron and put Astar front

[still heron]

Wtf

[civic sage]

then do Astar Zol Raku/Atalene LDV Lorsan

but I'm not sure if that's good or not

[ebon flare]

Luster kinda sus?

[still heron]

When i can clap Rhino's and KEL's a$$e$ im good lol

[civic sage]

I'm not sure about whale stuff so

[ebon flare]

True that

[civic sage]

Apparently Eirron Zol Lorsan Atalene Astar was last rotations meta

and it's not that good now

[civic sage]

Just try both and see where it goes tbh

[ebon flare]

If the team doesn't work day 1 you use it just change it

[rare grove]

[still heron]

[ebon flare]

Technical Q: does knocking out ATalene/Talene count as a first kill in this TS rotation?

Or do they just give the middle finger to it

[dusk tundra]

should count but cant tell

[civic sage]

I'd assume that until Bob says otherwise

[ebon flare]

@wise lion halp pls

[wise lion]

prolly not

in all other scenarios, they're never considered killed

[ebon flare]

dope

thx

[potent nimbus]

Hey, who should I switch?

[dusk tundra]

sussy peggy izold

[potent nimbus]

Sussy?

[civic sage]

swap LDV out for Mortas

For team 3, swap out Izold for Alna

and Grezhul for Lucretia

Team 1 should be Mishka Estrilda Raine Scarlet Lyca

then Team 4 should be Astar Zol Raku LDV flex

apparently Astar is good for pos 1 in team 4

you seem to have built slightly off-meta, so you can try using those units if they are invested to a point which performs better to the meta comps

[potent nimbus]

@civic sage thanks a lot. I changed it to this. I'll see how it goes and change if I see teams perform poor.

I have 3 Star Athalia, does she have a use here?

[civic sage]

Get rid of Zol

Zol is good when he is 3F

otherwise no point

[civic sage]

Swap her with Oden

[potent nimbus]

Alright

Thanks a lot

[civic sage]

I would try swap Zol with Lorsan, although I'm not sure how well that team performs without Zolrath

you can just experiment

with the different options you have available

that Astar is also quite poorly built, so I would try different options

[potent nimbus]

Yeah I keep getting Shafted with furniture.

[civic sage]

Also, I would make sure Arthur is standing in front of Ainz to provide safety for Ainz, as well as his SI effects

[bronze flax]

what I'd you don't have zol

[civic sage]

I am running Atalene Astar Raku LDV Kren, no idea if it’s optimal

[bronze flax]

Lemme know the percent on it

[cold ridge]

Does someone have an overview of the past treasure scrambles and their buffs/debuffs?
Like 1. TS debuff = …, 2nd TS, debuff = burst, …

[civic sage]

There's only been 2 debuffs/buffs in TS

[cold ridge]

How many TS have we had so far?

[shell jungle]

this would be the 5th one iirc

[cold ridge]

Alright, thanks - so this TS should then be the same as the very first one, right?

[civic sage]

Yes

[ebon flare]

yep, it's just been alternating so far

[cold ridge]

Alright, thanks.
Wasn‘t in the very first round (therefore upcoming round) RakuLdV burst the best team (and not Scarlet, Estrilda, Raine…)?

[candid echo]

does anyone actually understand this event and is willing to explain it?

[burnt ocean]

me too i dont understand

how can i get big big rewards?

[civic sage]

I mean, I don't think this event is that complex, what do you not understand?

[civic sage]

Run the meta teams. For most it will be:
2 Teams
Luc Alna + Scarlet

3 Teams
Same as above + Ainz

4 Teams
Same as above + LDV Raku

5 Teams
Same as above + Cycle

6+7 Teams
Misc(e.g. 5p)

Burst/Athane teams should also be incorporated if they are available

[burnt ocean]

who is the ennemy? wat mean percentage?

[civic sage]

There are also more meta teams

[civic sage]

TS is a regional PvP, meaning you only go against people who are in the same region as you. I don't really understand your second question

[burnt ocean]

u have a percentage of winning?

the teams fight against who?

[civic sage]

Do you mean a rough estimate of the win % of each comps? No I don't, although your question still sounds quite vague 😅

[civic sage]

Other enemy teams

[burnt ocean]

its because i dont understand

can i see the other enemy teams?

[civic sage]

What do you not understand?

[candid echo]

whats the point of doing it

[civic sage]

There is a battle report after you've fought the battles, where you can view the enemy comps you have lost or won to

You can also follow people on your regional t100 leaderboard, and see their comps

[civic sage]

You get gazers/cores/diamonds/Red chests/Gold and purple emblems, there's no reason not to

[alpine grove]

What’s the scarlett team?

[candid echo]

ok

[civic sage]

Estrilda Mishka Raine Scarlet Lyca

[burnt ocean]

the question: How can i win??

[civic sage]

You're not going to win every match

you just have to use the best heroes available from your roster

[civic sage]

This is what I would recommend for teams

[burnt ocean]

ok give me the best teams

[alpine grove]

Does this work for campaign? I have all the bench marks for those heroes built.

[civic sage]

Lucretia Alna Silas Ferael Oden
Estrilda Mishka Raine Scarlet Lyca
Arthur Albedo Ainz LDV Merlin
Astar Zolrath Raku LDV Lorsan
Lucretia Twins Haelus Rowan Ezizh
are examples of what I'd use

depends on your box though

[civic sage]

No

[burnt ocean]

wow wow tx

[civic sage]

Run them from Team 2/3/4/5, in the order I state them

[civic sage]

.

[burnt ocean]

i dont have all cele/hypo

[civic sage]

Haelus can be subbed with Skreg

I run Lucretia Skreg Twins Rowan Ezizh

should work with Twins and Ezizh both E/E+

[burnt ocean]

Lucretia Alna Silas Ferael Oden
Estrilda Mishka Raine Scarlet Lyca
Arthur Albedo Ainz LDV Merlin
Astar Zolrath Raku Atalene Lorsan
Lucretia Twins Skreg Rowan Ezizh
are examples of what I'd use

i dont have lucretia

[woeful girder]

Rip

[civic sage]

Are you a new player? And what other heroes do you miss

[woeful girder]

show heroes

[burnt ocean]

im a veteran players

ok min

[civic sage]

^

[limpid lava]

Wait so who's better than in scarlet team rosa or lyca

[static bone]

In the 1st team why faeral over say grez

[civic sage]

Lyca, but she is more usable in other teams, so you could opt for rosa and put Lyca somewhere else. For example, Burst.

[civic sage]

Ferael is a hero that possess great amount of cc, healing reduction and atk rating reduction. Him being there would be far better than Grezhul

you would put Grezhul back into Alna GBs instead of Lucretia

once you start running Lucretia Cycle

[limpid lava]

Okay but I can use lyca in first teams and swap her easily later

[civic sage]

Yeah

[hasty scaffold]

Is Ainz a good team for first two teams round?

[static bone]

Just wondering cuz investment wise I have an e60 grez but my faeral is only e30. And I've actually been running this setup in pvp and it's dominating with grez instead of faeral

But good to know, ty I wasn't sure faeral was better in pvp. Im not a hardcore player so I lack a bit of game knowledge

[limpid lava]

Would LDV be a replacement for Atalene and put mortas instead of LDV if I don't have Atalene built

[civic sage]

It's alright, but I think Scarlet/Alna Luc is better

[civic sage]

Yes

that would work better in fact

let me change that

[limpid lava]

😘

[hasty scaffold]

How about Ainz+Scarlet and Alna+grez+luc 💀

[civic sage]

I am running Grezhul + Lucretia actually

so.......

[hasty scaffold]

I'm not kidding. I might run it for the lulz

[limpid lava]

Only question then would be if mortas goes on pos4 or pos5

[knotty verge]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/885197382667632660/1004500517822681098/afkit.png

I know it's a difficult question but can I build decent teams with my current heroes? Or maybe just auto build teams since rewards aren't that great for 80-60% ranked? (Rosa is 200 and Ainz has e30 + I have Flora from tomorrow on)

[bright light]

Scarlet team is the same as last buff?

[steady hill]

i think i’m ready to rock

[simple marlin]

how much did you finish prev run and also no ainz team?

[steady hill]

4.3% no ainz team i switched teams too much

[simple marlin]

why no ainz is he doing poorly now coz of the scramble debuff? is the second team viable?

[steady hill]

ainz sux because of the last debuff

but this buff ainz is good

so i put him back

[shut vessel]

Hes not good in this debuff

It's a burst buff

[simple marlin]

isnt second team better with twins ezizh where estrilda and raine?

[tame hinge]

So is Ainz bad in every TS? lol

[simple marlin]

apparenlty lmao

[steady hill]

not really but ainz is no where shine in TS

just a filler or smrh

but true burst is op

[tame hinge]

Yeah,I don't have enough well built heroes for 7 strong teams so I have to use him every ts anyway.

[simple marlin]

same

[tame hinge]

I stayed in the top 20 the whole time last ts,until the 7th team,then I ended with 27

[sullen zenith]

Since it's burst-y, worth replacing Raine in the Scarlett comp with a Zolrath?

...or Estrilda

[icy spruce]

I have a limited roster so here’s what I came up with. With my scuffed Raku+LDV should I just run that on five teams and play Luc 5pull on four or vice versa? And is there anything I should replace aEzizh with? Didn’t know what to put in that slot.

[static bone]

Does Haleus work in the luc team as e+ or should I go a differ route and what should formation look like

[sacred notch]

U got desira or skreg (9f)?

[static bone]

Des I have 203 skreg no investment yet

Last round I used that setup shown but with zol and it did ok

[sacred notch]

Desi would prob be ur best bet then.
Desi

luc
Rowan
twins
Ezizh

[static bone]

Hmm I'll give it a shot when I get to 4 teams I guess
I never really used des cuz I didn't have good investment

[dusk tundra]

Alna GB killed in 5 seconds 😂

[sacred notch]

That's Athane for u 😂

[bitter hull]

I blinked and it was over LOL

[limpid lava]

Guys is your scarlet team around 60% win rate

I'm on top 14% which surprised me a lot

Cause I was top 100 / 2% last cycle

[nocturne token]

its just half of first day

[limpid lava]

I know but like the first days are the most important

So I can get as further away as possible

So I can make more mistakes later

[nocturne token]

thats not true tbh

[limpid lava]

Can you maybe explain why

[hasty scaffold]

No, it's an 11 day event

[fading osprey]

I'm always top 2/4% in the beginning and end up top 100 by the end

[hasty scaffold]

it's only hafl day :/

[indigo epoch]

Easier to win at 14% than t100, so you can catchup.

[limpid lava]

But it also doesn't make sense that I win 2 teams get 9 trophies

Win 1 team also 9 trophies

Or something like that

So far only seen once when I got 12 trophies for 2 wins

Might change scarlet to ainz comp in second half to see how it goes

[nocturne token]

if you get further today but cant keep up when more teams needed later, you will drop anyways. There is no such room for "more mistakes later"

[limpid lava]

Well makes sense

[nocturne token]

out of 5 days per run personally i would say 3rd and 4th day are the most impactful. 5th is important too but 5th day alone being good is kinda too late. 1st and 2nd day you can try teams

[limpid lava]

But was thinking of 6th and 7th team later on

That's when my drop is huge

Usually

[nocturne token]

6th and 7th team mostly not about comps, you drop because you lack of investments because the flat stats buff is less and less and tree levels start to matter much more

[shut vessel]

6th and 7th comps not that important

Just make good 4 or 5 teams rather than breaking it up