#temporal-rift
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but for grievous is a whole different story, so i want to try to make this work as 5
desira for silas doesn't work, less sustainable
it worked for me but my other comps were failing, so i gave desira to another comp and added talene to this one lol
daimon, it was good but not good, it didn't do quite enough dmg, got timed out 2 or 3x, and ended up having heroes die on me
A talene ? what position did you place her ? who did you replace ?
idk random, i don't have set comps really except merlin albedo ainz are always together
the rest i swap a lot and i'm still experimenting with, no idea what's better tbh
getting closer to just copying comps, but there's not much to copy 
very hard to have best, satrana oden athalia nara and depending where they are placed tends to have different results, can be a win suddenly its defeat.
sometimes you get 1 very hard comp but 2 other super easy ones too, so you just stack that one comp as best you can
it depends, sometimes AA merlin, is very prone to have someone die if they have invaders
GB also doesn't have exactly a fail safe switch here either, gotta match it, in that sense talene was somewhat succesful.
huh, it’s my strongest comp against invade, maybe just cause my other comps are too weak against it since they aren’t really fully formed comps just my best heroes idk
it’s a little more invested this time but last time i only had e45 ainz and nothing else engraved and it was still my strongest comp against high bursts or invaders
idk ¯_(ツ)_/¯
ainz shouldn't be receiving it directly, maybe i should try frontline just for that match, merlin is the best for athalia, but didn't have success with nara pull, ldv isn't very reliable. im using this.
used mishka to have some form of lockdown but it might be wasted here, AAA was pepega sometimes.
i use arthur, i guess that’s why it’s stronger against invaders so long as arthur doesn’t get put on the dive side
hmmm... can adjust. AAA ldv merlin, and then mishka grez + hodgkins silas oden.
no athalia no go
i mostly just keep davinci as a backup dps if another carry dies
thats a dead path
i mean his cc is nice too but not very reliable if not engraved
my cycle hasn't been very succesful. eziz only M, twins also pepega deaths
he deals ainz level damage when ainz pops though
ldv is e30 for the matter
206e30
in time
last trift, i ran a daimon talene eziz rowan desira cycle(?), if matched properly it did have some success since the following fights it had some energy left, i tried it a run this time, but it hasn't been good at all
, 1 of the reasons im a bit at loss here.
or somethin like that
Or you can keep Daimon with the rest of the GBs and run Oden in the 3rd team
Do you have Morael?
no

Scarlet is suicide in this mode
Idk about A Ezizh, I'll give him a try before Temporal ends for sure
grezh daimon silas hodkgins desira ?
order bound to change tho. or do i mishka instead of desira at pos 1/2 and daimon on 3 or 5 ?
ok can try it like that, wb cycle oden ? im a bit at loss with twins, they pepega die, also talene is only M
Hmm
Do you have Haelus?
no 

maybe ill do a run with this and do full GB instead with AAA.
You can try with Anoki too if your heroes get bursted early on
awa talene was a good slot in for AA merlin and GB, and did dmg
even at L+
anoki only at e+ 
202 ?
GBs are fine
On the team where you struggle early on
If you run Mishka/Grez, that front should hold
astar on some form of cycle looks like suicide 
Raina, you dont have much to work with
i know
Raku flopped for me last time, but in case you run out of ideas and switch to cele
You can give him a go
Also Peggy is pretty good
peggy uh
maybe peggy in cycle 
well ill try mishka cycle later on as a i level up the beacons.
should be better with lvl 14 badges, atleast 150, from then on, maybe 160 or 170.
can only go slowly
Im running
AAA, Merlin, LdV
Mishka, Grezhul, Oden, Silas, Hodgkin/Desira
Any ideas for 3rd Team?
Daimon, Desira, Haelus and whatever you can spare
No built Talene or New Talene
No Twins or Ezizh
You can try
With something that can hold the frontline
Like Skreg
Even Thoran
Thank you
Yes
Relics give a decent advantage, what you can do going on is identifying the easiest of all 3 enemy comps and switching your teams where necessary
Desira in the third team can take on enemy teams that dont ramp up dmg too fast
Floor 200 at 36 tank 35 sus 32 mage
When do you usually swap mage -> ranger? And what ranger teams do you use? 
Luc cycle, mishka/gb, atha/ezio/skreg
Damn, my athalia only e and my ezio is nonexistent 
What’s the 3 team meta?
for mage, it would be ainz team, GB mishka and some form of cycle. can also mix stuff and see what works for you
Thoughts about these teams I’m thinking damion (5* 303) or mishka (m+ si20) as the empty in that last slot
Should really be thinking of survivability.
Your GB team will likely take time to kill enemies, and unfortunately it's very probable that even after Thoran resurrection he'll become exposed to death (enemies still alive + he's not naturally tanky). Also during resurrection, enemies ignore Thoran so not really good for Desira either.
Maybe run LDV in your Ainz comp? Arthur Albedo Ainz LDV Merlin
Daimon/Hodgkin in GB.
Maybe send your box for what to put in Cycle. Probs Mishka tho idk
Ldv?
Oh mines not strong I had been running talene just unlocked 3 teams instead of task
You have 7 resets a week, so unless you're really heavy invested in doing Temporal everyday, I'd just go https://tryitands.ee
I’m down to my last reset for the week
Did you not optimize in your 6 resets?
I pushed as far as I could to get a higher level at the start
it's worth getting a 5x reset if it allows to push even further imo, getting levels early all adds up in 90 days
then again
each rank gives you 6 more essence-thing per DAY
you could be a month late and still be like, barely 300 essence-thing lower than what you would get if you pushed
Doesnt matter My ldv is +1 0/9 still does great. Daimon as the last slot in 3rd team. U need ferael instead of thoran in team 2 thst does great for me with oden in 2nd spot
im looking for a third team, im mage/tank/support invested those are my first two teams
Talene daimon twins rowan ezizh
Make it more expensive 😆
A Talene.
Thank me later
Maybe after Twins
should i just focus on Tanks, Mage and Healers? I had them split between Tank/Maga/Heals/Ranger but reset and got abit further
that is generally preferable due to ainz team
I got Ainz and Albedo, but no Arthur/Merlin etc atm
So its like..Ainz, Albedo, Scarlet, Rowan and whoever else atm..
on stage 105 atm
scarlet isn't a very good for this mode, she is a bit suicidal
you can try to fit in some other tank on the frontline for ainz, maybe get some other support, rowan or rosa in pos 4 for ainz boost.
running daimon grezhul on team 2 ?
Yeah
my healers keep getting merc'd and then its diminishing returns after that
Last page
you can also try L awa talene, i did use mine, it was L+ but maybe it will do some justice.
She does alright, atleast the first 100 floors
i'm two more dupes away from her being Ascended..curious what her deal is then
well to ascend her you need a bit more than +2 copies.
issues, can only wait for better beacons. 78 days left for event to end so, progress is guaranteed.
But wouldn’t I need to invest in rangers then?
Is there an infographic for this event?
No you dont but the optimal is grez mishka oden Silas desira if u have it. Ferael does fine without rangers buff
How good does mishka need to be?
her e60 is pretty huge
Like is m+ si20 acceptable?
With her e60 you could probably switch out desira for another damage source or non healing support since she would help heal the team with Silas
Thats fine yeah
Should I be keeping these more closely leveled together or always go with an overleveled one?
That's exactly what m doing except I'm doing all 5 now that I see this I might have to prioritize 3 like urs
i keep it on a 3 level diference, then catch up the other 3
recently tried giving more levels to mage as opposed to fort and sup, seemed okay 
Is mishka cycle good for a third team? I am in level 180 plus with 38 sustenance fortitude and mage
If you have her e60
Yeah I have her 309 e60 thanks
I can't pass floor 130
failed all 7 times :/
Which of these is the best variant for a Gb team thanks in advance
are you trying to do monotype in afk arena
?
Yeah I have level 38 mage sus and tank

level 38 is such whale
My Gb team is always the first one to die since I split desira and silas in 2nd and 3rd team
Dont do that
are these good to upgrade? or still stick with the 3?
Lv 1 is fine. But the class upgrades will probably be a better choice
aight thanks
Suggestions for a good third team?
Talene daimon twins rowan ezizh would be My goto
And mishka in the gb team
And if u have oden invested i would put him instead of hodg
Do you still advise twins if I only have them at E+?
Ezizh + twins M work too?
What's up with the scaling of Temporal Rift? Did something change? I didn't play for about a week to let my power accumulate. Before stopping I had gotten to level 105 then dropped back to 95. Before the break I had pretty easily beaten the level 100 boss. After coming back a week later with higher temporal beacon levels I can't even do half the bosses health and get wiped by running out of time.
Awakened or OG Talene for cycle? I'm going with mage so no Lucretia :(. And I can use 3 teams.
Whichever ones more built ig
Both are L 
Alright 

if you want heal to be a factor, recommend talene, awa is a bit meh in that sense
can try both tho
Skill issue prob
How to pass floor 100
is this worth getting atleast 1 point ?
well i can try i guess
anyone have a cheap cycle that isn't complete ass? (Mag/Fort/Sus)
I've put 1 point, I think it's worth it
like e+ ezizh twins cheap or just no haelus cheap?
Especially when your mages finish with 1 HP the battle against Thoran
no haelus and no Luc bc I'm not running ranger
and bc no Luc, doesn't seem liek Skreg makes sense
mishka/hodg go to gb
Requires Ascended on Ezizh and twins?
so Daimon Twins Mortas Rowan Ezizh? Mortas only M, feels like he'll be 2 squishy
yeah
twins frontline ?
im pretty sure that what i was using
except i have haelus
ah wait
it was silas
not mortas
then can use mishka/hodge in gb
im trying to setup something with mishka rowan oden

do yall have any advice for the 50th floor, i pump damage into him but he heals it all back up..... im probably just not strong enough but maybe im doing something wrong here. all the other floors im doing are marked as trivial so im confused if im just not strong enough...
Are you using Daimon?
If so, replace him. That’s the reason he heals so much most likely
Oh ok 😳

Haelus cardy
Is there any trick on boss?
Like I've played one time only, but on floor 100 boss, my first team died, but winning it
don't use daimon, apparently he's bugged
huh
how bugged
something something shield going down returns stats to boss or something
not sure if it is really a bug but the part where he gives back the health is the problem
so yeah he basically heals the boss multiple times
oh 😮
so if you can help it leave daimon out of the boss team
i think its boss ability to heal :DDDD
I'm just curious
what floor do I need for 2000 rank ?
bruh, literally no one's been past floor 301
are we supposed to like, guess the scaling for floor 301+?
Oh, i see
or not a bug but intended weird behavior for this particular boss like someone else pointed out
either way, just don't 
Generally, or just not on bosses?
daimon is fine on normal fights-
yes
No one knows.. it’s the first season
Oh
Any team 3 suggestions that do not include god comp heroes. The only celepogean from god comp I have ascended is eziz.
My team one is arthur, albedo, ldv, ainz, merlin. Team 2 is grezul, daimon, desira, silas, oden
Shemira is not an option because she is bound to ainz
I think Twins should work even though they're not A. I have them at L but they do fine.
What floor are you on?
I am trying to make a third team for floor 151. I tried scarlet, rosa, rowan, awakened talene, and hodgkins and they just got owned
You’re not a nub 🙂
131 is still good
Twins might be ok but without a proper talene I don’t know if god comp works anyway
i think you might need another healing factor if your talene isn't A.
my experience with M talene is mixed
My talene is legendary. She will not be making an appearance. And awakened talene at mythic was not good enough
All the guides have talene really low priority anymore, but it does really suck not having her. 😦
👴
Is the Ezizh mini boss easy?
isn't daimon bugged tho or mechanic ?
that makes him heal
what i meant is to not use daimon vs boss
Worked fine for me
i read quite a few times of players not being able to clear it, and then it was clarified that daimon was an issue, they were relatively new players so maybe factor
Need antiheal for him
Is floor 150 possible with these heroes at lvl 26 on mage support and tank?
Bosses spawn at floor 50 and 100, I think every 50 floors iirc
What do bosses drop? I think I just skipped right past mine
I mean relics? 
give team @glad peak
In case anyone is wondering, 300+ is four teams
I actually messaged Akon to ask them
😄
thanks
yea
last time around
I cleared 300
when I got 20 hero slots
subs are always nice to have in case somethig goes south
What were your comps arty
yes,i reached with 24~25 among.
About to share
One sec
I ran 4 trees
For most, run three trees and use Scarlet over Lucretia and Oden or Daimon over Zikis in GBs
I wanted those two specifically so I could burst through specific rough enemy fights
Some are liking awakened Talene over Mishka but that's not exactly an option for those on a budget, I personally didn't test
Interesting
And first ult will one shot them
I got to 200 with Luc cycle, GBs+Mishka and Skreg invade with Athalia and 3 Dims (Albedo, Merlin and Ezio)
no probs
Skreg Ezio athalia Merlin albedo is decent for cele instead of mage
If Full Cele I'd imagine Luc Cycle, GB Mish, and some form of sustainable invade yeah. I recall that's what worked last AE
Okay now I sleep, perp's mission kept me up an extra two hours
I wonder about a 4th cele team, maybe with Raku behind Arthur, Pop, Numisu and Talene/Aw Talene
New celes will solo rift
I guess Peggy is also decent if you have her invested

I don't see myself leveling 4 class trees
Maxing 4 at higher level needs lot of whale
does anyone see a legit scarlet team 3 on mage ? 
scarlet on GB 👀 thats a bit interesting, team is the same i run, had merlin and bedo swapped but this way is indeed better.
that haelus is a bit, since i only have E.
i am missing a decent hodge for this sadly
Wouldnt scarlet kill them
not really no
no ascended talene.
haelus probably plays a role in that no ?
on scarlet not killing
grez has minions + the flag from hodge at the start and the mr grez provides
should be pretty ok
who do you think i should slot in instead of haelus ? desira ?
if she has +30 yeah
302, no 3f yet
should still be decent
not sure about cycle tho, talene and eziz are M, which is a bit iffy, twins has no furn either.
yeah that sounds a bit rough
i do have mishka daimon oden rowan free so maybe +1
could be a thing
talene for sus
i havent used him yett
he kinda just instakilled everything with ult
good cat
yea, idk about Scarlet
mine is e60, but I still wouldn't run her in temporal
cele better

She would end up killing ur team
"by mistake"
well, yea
I guess people who can max out every temporal feedback can allow themselves to run 4 main branches
I'm ok with 3
scarlet gb destroys 150 boss
yes, but scarlet made it faster
idk the bosses are always super easy and quick
last time, it killed ldv i think when i used AAA
an issue in skill
cant be, im a professional player, your logic doesn't hold in this reality

151 was okay, lets hope this holds up to 160 at least.
cat really op on rift ? 👀
oh the 1 above
made a mistake temporary setback, should have focused on getting 14 badges first... 
that dmg 👀
scarlet really needs silas desira to survive, the moment i tried to slot her in something without enough sus, dead 
Am I supposed to be using Hodgkin if he's only 000?
I'm still not convinced about Scarlet
3 Satrana & 2 Oden

So it is 3 teams till floor 250?
301
will it even be possible to get to 600 as a f2p 
but difficulty seems to spike up quite a bit, as does the beacon level up cost, also doing consistent teams is 
dont think it will be easy
Hello ! Does anyone have a few minutes to give me advice on how to set up a suitable 3rd team in private messages? This way I don't send 15 screens in this conversation
Can I have a tip on what 3rd team should be with sorcery focus?
Ahah double trouble
Same issue here
only other team I know is god comp but my mehira is mythic and talene e+
my ezizh is decent atleast XD, twins suck
Which floor do you have to be to start with lvl 14 relics? I've unlocked them yesterday but still only get lvl 9-10 ones.
Around floor 110-120+ or so?
Rip me. 
Focusing on mage tank and support, would your 3 teams be Ainz with dims, gb with desira and daimon, and a scarlett team?
Or would Mishka be there somewhere
I've seen people run her with GBs.
I'd steal arty's teams if I was whale enough for 4 branches
I guess owning more than zero copies of zikis might be needed too
No mishka,zikis, and haelus
I'm poor too
I've been using haelus with Luc cycle though, maybe I should try desira
I cant make 3 teams i think
Usually cycle is the first team to have someone die for me
And invade tends to last the longest oddly
both
I use both in Cycle
no Rowan
Gl
Any advice for teams?
hi 275 neighbour
I wish I could buy more shit just for the temporal points but wont happen
oh yeah me too
need 100 points
didnt realized we got lvl 17 badges, that should make the rest of the run a lot easier
ok my journey ended
🐳
Desira is sick for cycle, far far better than Haelus for me, use the ult energy reduction relic and she's constantly got her anti death up
If I lose anyone it's usually from Ainz of all my teams
Or a really bad Silas ult
Silas is really good at suiciding
Yeah I'm running Mishka in Silas over Awakened Talene so my Mishka tends to take damage, be mid fight vs a Satrana, and then my Silas drops right on top of her as Satrana starts to ult
Yeah even with a kraken newlene I’d rather run mishka atm honestly because of it
It’s kinda why I don’t like Mortas in Ainz even if he’s obviously really good, he’s such a weak point in that team
Yeah I still have Mortas in for bossing but I probably should've swapped him with Vinci since I didn't need him for bosses
I lowkey want to try out the new mauler support instead, run him frontline
I have no idea who to use. (Nor do I have much motivation to decide...)
I know there are guides SOMEWHERE, but where again?
This mode just too unforgiving to be any fun.
I just found the guide, aaaaaand I don't have half the recommended characters. Sigh.
Trift is hard, I generally recommend people just try to make teams out of their most engraved heroes tbh
cape of inspiration ?
Creed
nvm, found it, warriors creed, reduces energy expended for each successive ulti
Yep
Are you okay Pea
reading is overrated anyway
Grievous fork, both of them multi-team with a combat rating three billion higher than mine. This is the game's telling me it's time to give up.
To make matters worse, one path has Isabella, and the other has Ainz Lite a.k.a. Solise. I have trouble fighting them even when I have an advantage.
there is time, level up higher your beacons and try again later, maybe try changing your teams
there is a limit ofc, but that changes as you gain more exp

i need a guide for trift, still clueless with this mode lmao
sorcery as carry
cele as carry
So scarlet good in rift? Damn
i guessing for the bossing, won’t use her on thoran rounds
Thoran and Solise rounds aren't fun 
those called sorcery and cele carry but actually tank and sust op
I'm working on one actually
bro… omg
about time
no arty guide, feeling void
Ye after pushing to tie #1 I feel I've learned a lot about it and I'll inquire into some people pushing at lower accounts to learn strategies and subs that feel relevant
I like just started
Push twice a week, get big afk rewards
I think you'll get all the rewards @gritty gulch
You hit big milestones and you push to max after each one
Eg most of us waiting for level 17 badge now
I'm at floor 150 rn
I collect daily.
But it's 3 fight. So no motivation until it's easy.
It's 3 fight from 150-300
Yeah but I might wait till badge level 17
It should be easy to 201 at least
You want to beat the bosses cuz they are 200 xp each
And will progress your armillary quick
is oden not good?
Good with Desira

daimon has been letting me down lately, he's always the first one to die now 
Why do you have 2 teams of ainz
that's what i want to know 
https://streamable.com/37jr6f
i can even drag them around
Engrave daimon
I'm tempted, still many heroes I want to e30 before tho
hit the leaderboard, time to wait for next level
top 2000?
I wonder where's the top 2000 cutoff atm, probably around 220-30?
idk tbh
just put them across zol/merlin
😄
You running cele?
im running 4 since i can afford to do so
im nearing 290
its starting to get a lil scary
do you have 20 hero slots or still with 15?
15
Oh wow
I think I was like 137 or something
was it like lvl 17 for 20 slots?
well, 20 slots made the 3x multis a lot easier, since you have backup heroes
cool
So am i
yea, this one isn't pretty
It doesn't get better
like ok normally
the two choices
theres an obvious choice
but now its like
pick how youd like to get fucked
Some people pay good money for that
Does it go to 4 teams after 300?
it does
Thanks
Whale
@rotund mountain do TR for me
I charge extra for toads

My journey is over

I use gb/ ainz team what is good for 3 team ?
Daimon cycle
i use daimon in my first team
hmm
nvm i think im done
Scarlet is just questionable in general. I tried that for a run and Scarlet just kept nuking herself.
thats why you need silas desira hodgkins to heal the monster 
It works with weaker Scarlets, but once you add engraving and her 9F, she just one shots people. You can’t heal through a 1 shot.
Yeah. Her 9F makes her rain down more destruction and the engraving just turns her damage so high that you can’t live through it unless the rest of the team is all like e60+.
My Scarlet is e65 with some haste dupe furniture and as much as I love her, even in TR and CR, she is just so RNG without the rest of the team being super high engrave too.
very fat scarlet 👀
im trying mishka cycle, it seems okayish so far.
thanks
its a do or die thing, if someone dies its over.
Im at 195 now
Is there any use for the crystalline core currency other than buying Deity’s Shelter?
there are other beacons when you level up
.
OK good to know
Yellow boys what 3 teams would u make with this?
My 3 teams are
Daimon, grez, silas, oden, hodgkin
Ainz, albedo, arthur, merlin, desira
Ezizh, rowan, talene/atalene, twins, ldj
I can barely make it to 155 before the 3rd team falls apart, any tips?
having same problem with 3º team. really hurts not to have ascended talene and eziz
anyone that used an E+ mortas on trift had any good results ?
This has been a pretty nice 3rd team for me since I don't have ezizh or talene but my GB are kinda struggling a bit now lol
so Grez hodkgins daimon silas oden ?
Yes except I've been trying other heroes instead of daimon
I'm trying pippa now which was a terrible idea lmao
I think I'll just stick to mortas
mortas on GB or dim ?
In GB, I'm using LDV in dims team
gonna try grez hodgkins oden silas daimon
maybe swap daimon and silas since he moves when he injects
Would be pretty cool if they ever did hero-specific badge effects
For example, badge for Scarlet so that she would no longer hit her allies with her ult
@hazy lance
@gritty light
Is it even possible to make it up to floor 600? I see all the whales stuck at 300
Whats ur stage ?
Idk 120 or smth i m slacking a lot
Wbu
183
Ooo what comps u using?
You can't go past 300 yet
1st Albedo, Arthur, PoP, Merlin, Kren
2nd Mishka, Grezhul, Raku, Silas, Desira
3rd Skreg, Daimon, Haelus, Rowan, Lucretia
Ahh cant copy cause no haelus
U can try Hodgkin instead
I ll try
thank you for sharing, ill try this in a later run.
30 more floors ahhh
i feel like this Trift is alot harder. 29 on mage and the other 2 beacons,got to 158, there is always someone that just dies

Everyone's a lot faster this season
A lot of people at 300 already when last season I got 300 just as I was hitting 20 heroes
what floor are you ?
295
cel or mage ?
Cele
running invade team with atha ?
Yea
im gonna switch to cel next reset and try to see if i can go further with what was a posted a bit earlier^
yes, i try to do that, but still lost heroes, so even if clear it becomes a dead run, dim team is solid, but even GB depending on what im running can turn a full 180 towards the gutter, and then 3º team becomes a bit more scuffed,same scenarion when it works is good, but lose 1 hero and gone, specially high chances with vexing realm(or any purple stage for that matter).
were enemies engraved at floor 280 last time? i don't remember engraved enemies 
Yea I avoid vexing realm at all cost
I don't remember them being engraved last time too
same, but its unavoidable, they did ease up with relics, big change on hte positive
zikis op
u whale
imagine gazing 3* ahelus twice
gonna try this next run
Iim not sure about team 1
yea, kren can be a bit suicidal
Or any of those teams
im hoping merlin is key here
dont particularly like pop, tried him but it was meh, maybe this here
skreg, wish he was more invested

i do think sustain wise, it seems "alright" on all 3 of them
It won't work
what wont ?
only in 3 days, no more retries this week
hard to do teams
do you have any suggestion ?
You can refresh btw
Only 500 diamonds for 5 tries
I think luc should be pure cycle
Do you have twins ezizh?
twins ascended, but ezizh only M
i tried to some extent, not on cel, but they were all lacking
btw do you think i should input fereal in any of these teams ?
Ferael can work in gb mishka
instead of ? raku silas desira
I would swap luc around to full cycle with desira
Then mishka grez Hodge daimon Silas
Then Arthur merlin bedo pop raku I guess
frontline twins ? or rowan ?
Twins
Ive been secretly running cele supp tank for rift
Having trouble making up a 3rd team tho
Any f2p oldbie running cel tank support? How viable is it?
Need lineup to surpass floor 130 ty
tank mage sust. aaa merlin lvd, grez hodge oden silas desi, mishka daimon twins rowan ezizh. tanks 46 mage sust 41. used gb for boss. deitys shelter max, flower whisperer lvl1.
skill issue

so you would recommend to max tank over the other tree's a few more levels instead of the rest ?
tbh i was hungover and maxed tanks instead of mages. but it works so 
my 3rd comp doesnt have any mages 
gonna start a bit earlier, and try to get lvl14 relics.
running some celerity
cycle luc became good
mishka gb became trash
using fereal instead of daimon
well ill see how far tanks/mages take me before trying out cele
even cycle with M ezizh works
ill show you what im running, might be an interesting cele team for you to try
my gb hasnt lost... yet 
problems would be getting timed with R1, not enough dmg might try kren
maybe tak arthur raku out and put ezio joker 
hard to replace it, kinda need to hold frontline there for raku
lost 2 heroes
win but some die
put fereal in pop's place
that was my old gb team
fereal is actually really strong here or is it just me
arent these the teams i suggested
yes
yes and no, cant break into the 160's
raku team is a bit lacking dmg wise if they are to tanky so i tend to put lucretia cycle, and gb well, 1 or another just dies
hmm
is ezio or joker a thing on raku ? 
so ideally he needs to be paired with something like pop
yea
same but nothing else i've tried is better either
wokelene instead of oldlene might save it but guess what i'm not whale enough for
my 4th comp is going to be newlene, treznor, astar, peggy, daimon
u whale
is chaos seeker worth it ?
transforming blues into vexing realm ?
is it on the vexing realm where you get +1 badge resets ?
flower whisperer good at least 1 level ? blues become flora's dew
aditional 3, has in 5 total ?
i like steady preparations
👀
what level of armilar do you unlock that ?
15
i got a single point in renewed hope outside of 3 classes
are cursed badges worth it ?
lvl14
Do you know if steady preparations give 20% mana per round? Or only once during the 1st fight?
Thanks
that might be worth it
@unique hollow can u carry me in temporal
Are you using mage or celery carry
Celery
Maybe that's where I go wrong i was using mageand my ainz instead great
Mage seems to be better early but then their sustain kinda dies out and then switches to cele
But mage still works
Mage is better with enough investment. Last TR I could get 300 with mage but only 280 with ranger
Im 197 atm
I'm 300 atm with cele
anyone tried satrana on a mage run yet ?
Nope
She would need +30
This is what I run
yea +30 isn't happening
that daimon cycle didn't do well for me when i tried it, and i tried swapping silas with desira, similar result, could maybe try again and better match up
You have everyone ascended and aat breakpoints?
I mean, it should work, unless Ezizh dies?
yes maybe, silas did use some clutch heals, but sometimes it was twins dying, other times eziz just got popped the moment he moved towards pos 1/2.
cycle couldn't really get started, especially on purple stages.
This is mine, I don't struggle tbh, but I also have T3 on everyone except rowan
Maybe that matters
im a bit lacking on T3, department.
I mean, it shouldn't be ground breaking
tried celerity run, it seems more consistent except GB
Actually last time, I thought Celerity was better
But this time, mages takes me further than celerity
by a lot
at least, i can run luc cycle safely with a very high degree of success
even if eziz only at M
with desira pos 5
fereal is also super big
on gb, just a bit, sometimes silas or mishka die, but can still work with 4 people

Honestly, Mages are better right now
I am not sure why you have trouble with daimon comp tbg
But I can send you my celerity teams
:sadge:
this is what i ran, have to move around a bit raku or silas, but okay, max stage 158 with both cel and mage.
I'm in 171 atm with these but my grez just died so rip the whole run lol
3rd team needs so much babysitting that it leaves gb kinda weak
i tried, scarlet run, with silas and desira on the same team its very good
but eats so much
vexing realm? should i take it?
avoid if you can
ty
blue stages are good, rest is avoid 
reached 201 😄 rest for now
I went to 300 with some similar teams
You’re at 300 now?
Yeah, well 301
Please tell me, not 4 teams
Yes it’s 4 teams starting at 301 haha
F2P/new players will never be able to do this
Maybe towards the end? Idk it’ll be hard
You get 4 teams eventually
Lvl 17
It’s just more to watch, more RNG
well at least you can skip the battles, but yeah it’s rough to push as f2p
I wonder if you need like 5 teams at like 451
Doesn't change the RNG
More teams, more rng
At player level 15 you get three extra resets per run
Which helps a ton
Still, to push as a f2p / new player, it's even hard to make 3 teams. So you'd have to over-level.
But as an old player or spender, it should be okay
not easy to get 4 consistent teams
Time to go back to shemira when 4th team comes
especially if you are capped with 3 classes
lvl17(?) with 20 heroes will likely be the key to get ~300 for most players.
Yeah 17 is 20 heroes
I'm having trouble getting past floor 233, with level 17 badges
when do you unlock the next cap of relics ?
maybe closer ~300 is a bit wishful thinking for most 
Relic20 is at 17 also
level 17 is a huge breakpoint
is this you
No, someone else
Does this look like a good lineup for level 150+?
Not with that twins
Any other good sub-ins?
does mishka works better on gb team instead of daimon?
I was advised to sub in Mishka and move Damion to the third team. She seems to do fine.

Hey guys, does "Steady Preparations" gain energy every floors or only the first one we enter?
First one
gib f2p friendly strat nao 
im on floor 100 but the boss heals too much, is there a way to do it or i just need more dmg?
I want to try rangers instead of mages and I'm wondering what would be a good third team. I'd use:
- Graveborns with ferael instead of Oden
- Luc cycle
- (I used AAA+Merlin+LDV) but I'm not sure if throwing Ezio and pop instead would be any good
nvm i managed
Gl those are rough for higher floors atm
im chilling at 210 
that's pretty good for f2p I think
thanks
i try to push 10 floors every 3-4 days 
poggers
What's your teams? 
aaa lvd merlin, mishka daimon cycle, gb
Thanks!, I'm just bad then, that's the teams I'm using lol











