#temporal-rift

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amber hinge
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It prob needs healer so use Jerome there instead of Emilia if you haven’t reset it yet.

amber hinge
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Jerome is way better

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What is your trait level?

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Does your team has good collections?

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It’s not gonna change your current beconing heroes but yeah it will be very helpful in next run.

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Does athalai has temporal cover skill +1?

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If you have temporary cover skill level. Use it on her since you are having surviving issues.

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It will be yeah. You should actually review the battle and observer why are you losing. And should make changes according to it.

amber hinge
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You are given 30 rewinds every 7 days

native mesa
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depends on hero but tbh hero invest more important

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shouldnt be too big of a difference unless its specific heroes that benefit a lot from the star. but then thats negligible for progress uptil floor 300 as well. so u should be fine~

native mesa
sharp grove
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0-30 who knows it's random

amber hinge
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Wow

amber hinge
iron narwhal
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What Should I buy in TR award swap, do i save for any awakend heros or get TE cards and star cards

limpid hound
limpid hound
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How deep are you in TR? @lavish cargo

river plover
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Luci

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unless of course you already have her in which case getting her as a beckon is a downgrade since she wont have a collection

golden nacelle
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Any suggestion?

crystal lava
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Can someone help me with a rift lineup i suck

exotic talon
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They are unbeatable

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They don't lose any hp at all

lavish ridge
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what's the beacon setup again for pushing

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i remember the lightning duel and noble legacy is kinda important

tough ingot
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amplifer

chilly hull
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You only get 1 lvl in LD & NL early
At lvl45 trait the cost ramps so you take them to lvl2
Then at lvl50 you take NL to 7 because that's max for f2p

coarse juniper
dawn hatch
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the name just registered

coarse juniper
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Oh this is a touch old Liberta and AShemira are both +30

dawn hatch
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where are you at interms of the rift, like 2 teams 3 teams? and if you have teams can you send me a pic of them

coarse juniper
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Lol literally haven't started it. I don't remember much about any comps that's kinda why I am asking.

dawn hatch
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okay, you can use brutus and the dims as a start

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not sure about maetria and where she'll work

coarse juniper
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ABrutus, Rem, Albedo, Merlin, and Ezio maybe?

dawn hatch
coarse juniper
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I was away 4 months but prior to that I was very minimally invested I just don't know much anymore

dawn hatch
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this should have a bunch of teams you can pick from, because i dont have much of an idea what to build for you seeing as the only awakened heroes i have in common with you are brutus and lyca

coarse juniper
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Lol fair enough

dawn hatch
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be sure to make the comps in your formations page just to make sure there isnt overlap

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its a bit outdated looking at it now but it should still help regardless

coarse juniper
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Such a pain lol

dawn hatch
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doesnt have dae lib or those heroes.

verbal valley
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Any suggestion formation for boss?

arctic snow
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just skip

tame blade
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May I get some help for 5t please? I always get stuck in floor 220
Beacons are ASafiya, Maetria, Lucilla, Trishea, ABaden, ATalene, Crassio, Baden,

halcyon hound
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Which one to choose?

dawn hatch
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Brutus

halcyon hound
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Thanks

sharp grove
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lucilla > brutus > RH > tarnos
in that order

dawn hatch
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i prefer brutus for the dim team but yea she works

dawn hatch
sharp grove
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she does what he does, but better and buffs liberta

dawn hatch
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im gonna build her next so we'll see

sharp grove
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si30 is huge

tame blade
tame blade
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You mean to force beacons to have desired investment? I think yes. That’s when you get popup to close and move top 5 around right?

sharp grove
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349e60 beckons

tame blade
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But if I were to play with top 5 now beckons would not change right now correct? I would need to restart run to get them like that?

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Ok thanks! I’ll take that into account for next run. Any recos on current run regarding teams?

hasty fjord
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anyone have a guide for the temporal beacon?

stoic juniper
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Who’s best out of these

tough ingot
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prob vika, but wait for other opinions before deciding

dawn hatch
limpid hound
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Suggestions? I don’t have much experience with any of these units lol

dawn hatch
limpid hound
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thanks ❤️

torpid fox
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Is there a guide with comps and badges for them?

lilac gyro
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I need some help facing this enemy

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And these are the characters I have to work with

mossy bloom
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💀

south mason
lilac gyro
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Should I restart?

south mason
tulip bronze
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which one

lavish ridge
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should i get naroko si30 for better beckons

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im also waiting for the 3rd ashem from sg to get e30 on ashem

lilac gyro
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@south mason these are my heros is there anything I could do to help my line up

lilac gyro
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Thanks

south mason
lilac gyro
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69

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Or 70 I think

south mason
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This is very difficult, important components such as Palmer, Jerome, Ivan and many more meta heroes if you don't build you are very far behind

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Try this i dont think this work and use albedo with ainzif not work

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And just upgrade trait enhancer

pulsar dune
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Updated temporal rift guide when ...

lilac gyro
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Ok

merry hatch
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I concur

neat dew
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is there any way to choose beckoning palace in auto mode... the stupid ai chose the other option twice alr.. so annoying

gentle nest
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I swear my auto pauses when I reach a beckoning place

sharp grove
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it's supposed to yep

neat dew
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mine used to do that, but recently it just chooses the other option haish

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im just unlucky i guess

sharp grove
neat dew
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oo my most recent one was a flora, okie thank youu

torpid fox
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Is there a good comp for Eugene and Gavus? Just got them on the beckoning thing

torpid fox
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Also does the beckoning place appears every 20 floors or am I getting lucky with this run?

normal otter
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im so confused

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what do i do if i cant beat the enemy team

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and i cant change my heros

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nvm

tulip bronze
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which one? 🤔

clear quartz
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I have been thinking about this one for minutes, really feels contectually on what you have but I would guess mortas because you can have him in your back pocket for antihealing

fallen badger
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aaa such amazing choices

clear quartz
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woof

zealous stirrup
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Thoran! thorannou

tulip bronze
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Why is auto battle choosing vexing realm over dew? 🤔

tough ingot
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because of idotic programming

shell storm
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Little lost here

simple crown
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2nd guy annoys me in tower

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he 1v1ed my naroko on mauler tower for like 45s

sharp grove
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because an extra hero won't help u if u have 0 stab, and it doesn't bother checking ur stab

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if u got 0 stab, floras will bring u back to like 300 stab so u get a couple more floors out of it

tawny vessel
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Aluc or athane?

charred thorn
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can anyone help me make 5 good teams for trift?

kind crescent
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Anyone know if beckons update dynamically? If I mess around with my box to take 3 out of top 5 cmbr to 9f then beckons get it too? Or do I have to also start new run?

kind crescent
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what about the beckons I have already? do they stay 3f if i change my box?

kind crescent
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👍

bronze saddle
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I’m trying to figure out 3 heroes to put in this team. There’s also Veithal, Naroko, and AThane. I have Jerome but I’m missing furniture and engraves. I have SI30 Lavatune but he’s missing furniture and engraves. I have Trishea 2002e30 and a maxed out Daimon. Are these fine or should I no? If not, I’ll shift through my stuff to see if I have anything better.

lone swan
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Shit that was hard 🤣

limpid hound
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If you’re running an Abel team he goes in it right?

lone swan
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Yeah he should be decent

kind crescent
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got aezizh in a bad beckon, is he completely useless or a useable cc support?

shell storm
burnt bay
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reccomendation for 5th team? no beckons*

smoky fern
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Havnt linked albedo yet, idk with who tbh

arctic snow
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very confident in these comps, insanely stable

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my biggest change was making team one work by removing daemia. idk about you guys but i hate using her in rift

clear quartz
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she can waste time potentially

arctic snow
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also, trish is just random placement in team 5, you can use tamrus team is amazing with and without him, i just removed him because he died randomly and contributed almost nothing since cc and damage was already being handled

arctic snow
arctic snow
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hm?

inland barn
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Your pfp

arctic snow
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thanks 😄

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idk what yours is but it’s pretty cool!

inland barn
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Just a character from a manga

arctic snow
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im a manwha addict.

inland barn
rough pelican
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Where do I even fit a thane into this? Awthalia is struggling the most rn

chilly hull
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Nowhere, I don't use him in trift

rough pelican
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ouch

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I have skill issues apparently

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in every game mode, its really worrying

sour gyro
sour gyro
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Who do I choose btw?

short owl
sour gyro
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What teams can he be used in?

tawny vessel
arctic snow
# tawny vessel What app is this

Paperback in the iOS App store, I found it out from another person. but basically, they invited me to a server called Netsky’s Basement - a dev for sources - to get sources like Mangabat, Mangadez, Bato. it was quick so ive been using the app since

arctic snow
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for android, look into Aidoku or Tachiyomi, both are great manga/manwha readers

lone swan
shell storm
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Thoughts?

willow compass
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can anyone help me make 2 team comp for t rift? im new

sour gyro
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And Solo Max Level Newbie, The S rankers that I raised if you want something similar to Solo Leveling

arctic snow
sour gyro
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Np

bleak otter
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Need help to make better teams 🙂

quiet drum
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help me put together 4 teams for temporal rift please?

crystal jewel
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is there like a new player guide for this? seems exhausting

sharp grove
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Nope

crystal lava
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These my heroes rip TRift

dawn hatch
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your 3 mos invested damage dealers are rem, ainz and abel so your team should focus around them

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ainz needs protection so he can ult so albedo is gonna be huge for him

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rem just needs alna and ivan to perform well i believe

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and abel needs the lightbearers support team behind her

crystal lava
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One sec I'll show my lineups and explain them lol

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I got no explanation actually

dawn hatch
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why can you use albedo?

crystal lava
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I don't have her garrison

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Only got enough for 35 shards atm

dawn hatch
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thats a problem

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why do you rent out so many at the same time

crystal lava
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I haven't in a while honestly but I should be getting 45k lab tomorrow I think

dawn hatch
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okay so youre gonna run ainz and albedo together

crystal lava
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Yeah I'm at 99-100

dawn hatch
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the other heroes dont matter as long as they live and can help ainz ult quickly

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abelinda wants the lightbearers like i explained because they buff her damage to the max

crystal lava
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Oh okay

dawn hatch
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and rem wants alna and ivan the other 2 dont matter as long as they survive

crystal lava
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I invested a lot in Belinda

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Okay

dawn hatch
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you choose your teams based on who has the best damage and who can help that damage dealer ult quickly

crystal lava
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I'll be swapping my over invested khazard to liberto at swap event will that help

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Any of the lineups

dawn hatch
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yea thats fine

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only when you reach the 4 team stages otherwise he is justa sub dps hero in any of the comps ive mentioned

crystal lava
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Oh okay thanks ummm any sub for albedo till I get shards

dawn hatch
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there isnt since she buffs damage of dims and protects ainz if he gets a fatal hit once, youre pretty much stuck because she is the other half of why ainz was so good

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you could use grezhul in the meantime

crystal lava
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Okay thanks much appreciated for help

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I'm slow so it's much appreciated

dawn hatch
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calm

shell storm
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What to grab here?

sour gyro
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Should I continue after Level 50?

chilly hull
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Get NL to lvl7 then go back to trait, although by the time you get that you'll already have 300 trift done if you do it when it opens

arctic bronze
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How does this gamemode work and what do i gain from plaing it

sharp grove
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2,340 bait

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3 month cycle

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40 TEs

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that's all u need to know, now good luck and read the pins isathumbsup

arctic bronze
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Olay thank you

arctic bronze
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I dont get this game mode after all

tough ingot
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its a glorified kings tower

tough ingot
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thats all

shell storm
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Any chance if people know whether 309e60 Zolrath or LDV is better up to floor 300? I don't plan on shooting for frame

somber lynx
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Guys is someone advanced in the game that can help me with some questions ?

sharp grove
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if it won't take anymore than 10 minutes

sharp grove
somber lynx
pine gull
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can someone help with a team

sharp grove
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=restarting

sharp grove
pine gull
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@sharp grove why is it restart worthy

sharp grove
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Ainz bad, Albedo overinvested, the alna and mehira are a returning account feature (strong reason), Warek, Safiya, Gwyneth, Skreg, Arthur, Cecilia, Eironn, Tasi all bad

pine gull
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my account is too old

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@sharp grove if it’s in the context that i played this game 2 years ago does it make it better

sharp grove
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Better as in way more incentive to restart? Yes

sharp grove
pine gull
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can someone help me make a team please

sharp grove
ivory plover
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Hi everybody, just wanted to kindly ask u all to not push temporal rift this season so my guildmates can get a frame
Thanks for your kind understanding

clear quartz
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ok but only cause its boring and I wasnt going to anyway

sharp grove
native mesa
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thats a big ask. i always go for t500 lycalurk

ivory plover
modest monolith
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Yo lady's. Is there a guide for the current rift? Feels like that my teams are Hella trash

potent harbor
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Which one?

clear quartz
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probably Maetria?

potent harbor
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Thank you!

fresh sage
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any changes i could make?team 1 and team 3 always lose or take too much stab

south falcon
worldly basin
clear quartz
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kalthin so you can test khasosrun

worldly basin
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😭

worldly basin
clear quartz
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none of those are great tbh but it is genuinely worth trying kalthin imo

gentle nest
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5 teams so hard lorsob

fallow crane
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help, idk what comps/badges to use been just randomly putting good units together homegalul

fast plinth
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Floor 180 no stability, DESPAIR

fallow hollow
amber isle
hearty marlin
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How many wukongs do we currently get total?

amber isle
hearty marlin
# amber isle Explain urself

Wrong chat my bad- but I meant in general throughout the game modes, without purchasing from shop, how many copies of wukong are provided as rewards

livid pollen
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A neat trick is to save those chests till u cam build him from the shop though.

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After 5stars every 3 copies of him or her can be converted into a choice celestial or hypogeon pull

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So if you save a ton of chests youll be able to grab a few copies of whatever hero you want down the road

clear quartz
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Im not looking for pity, my roster is plenty to do 300 without beckons but man my beckon luck is bad

whole bloom
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300 was so stressful this time

clear quartz
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I had several Thali teams stealing rewinds in the last ten floors

last marsh
whole bloom
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These, can use lavatune instead of Raine also

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(ignore HoE 5 and up)

last marsh
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thanks

steep marlin
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300 clear, all 2 stars units are the beckons.

clear quartz
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I wish my beckons were still 2 star lorsob

steep marlin
last marsh
whole bloom
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I had anasta before adding alyca, and baden is hard to say...

last marsh
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i have him on legendary

potent harbor
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Abrutus?

clear quartz
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ye

potent harbor
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Thank you

south mason
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The best choice?
My beaconing total : 10

last marsh
potent harbor
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Asaf? Idk what team uses her

clear quartz
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Def her. She's just very strong support and damage

weak dew
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Is there any updated tr spreadsheet of sort

chilly hull
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You mean trift not TR right (TR is Temporal Realm)
Don't think people have bothered because getting to 300 has only gotten easier every season so if you could get it before you can get it again

weak dew
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Welp hope them 2023 spreadsheets can get me to floor 300 then

weak dew
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God I can’t even navigate to the aw thane page on the spreadsheet in mobile

chilly hull
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AwThane's always been pretty bad in trift (ofc not including weird kraken stuff for 300+), but luckily you can swap him to a better AW

wary scroll
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Do y’all actually push temporal rift or do y’all just auto battle

sharp grove
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I manual, much faster

fallen badger
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I auto, too lazy

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can't get frame anyway

amber isle
dawn hatch
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what teams struggle?

amber isle
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Asolise team you can make a team, Asolise Scarlet Astar Nevanthi ivan

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Rem team: albedo merlino joanna rem emilia

dawn hatch
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thats fine

amber isle
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Abelinda Alina Jerome palmer gavus

dawn hatch
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not sure where ashem is gonna fit still but if thats your weakest team then, what does it lack

amber isle
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Tamrus instead of geralt

dawn hatch
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yea all hypos only works if maetria is in the team

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is seal at 18?

amber isle
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The 2° team need the enemy to be in a area very little, try to swap Aezizh with tamrus

dawn hatch
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ldv could help as well with the cc

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okay then that team just needs to live long enough for the seal to pop off correct?

amber isle
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Depends on which of the two gives better results

dawn hatch
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also what i reccommend doing when you go through the rift is battle with your weakest teams first and then when you win go with your strongest teams

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which team loses the most stability the most often

amber isle
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Another Advise I give is to not level up the stamina thing, cz when you are 0, you can level it up and battle again

dawn hatch
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what stamina thing?

amber isle
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That one that Increase the max stamina to 50

dawn hatch
amber isle
dawn hatch
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oh still nice

amber isle
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Nice

dawn hatch
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can you send a pic of the things you changes? just so i know what works decently and what doesnt

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go to formations and input the teams baguette posted earlier on

amber isle
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Strange for me works every time

bronze saddle
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Which one should I pick?

clear quartz
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Orthros? not a great one

rough pelican
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Does the team comp looks odd?

clear quartz
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I would probably do Talis team 2

rough pelican
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hmm kk ty

chilly hull
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Does IC actually freeze in trift or does it get resisted?

red oriole
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anyone free to help me in formations?

dawn hatch
dawn hatch
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Sure, not at my Mac atm but ill get there in a min

dawn hatch
spring thunder
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Which one is used in trift 300+? Should have 40 sig. I am afraid Trishea will be too slow. Nara hidden under selected.

dawn hatch
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that nara youve got selected?

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if it is then trishea is the best option, ezio is a good choice as well so you can use him with your dae

spring thunder
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I'll try Ezio, sig 40 raises his execution threshold. Would be fun to see if that combo works in trift too. Thanks!

dawn hatch
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no problem big man

tame blade
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Getting constantly stuck between 240 and 245, anything I should change? Besides this I have unused 309e30 beacons Estrilda & Zikis. TE is at 50 and LN/LD at2

stiff frost
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Idk if this is the right channel or not but if anyone could give me insight I would appreciate it.

So l'm fighting the temporal rift, first boss on floor 20, Swamp Corrupter. Its health is constantly healing immediately up to full anytime I damage it, through the whole fight.

Attached screenshot is my team. I know I’m not ultra optimized but like. It’s the first boss. I figured 420m should be enough to kill this guy right?

I've done temporal rift before back when I played a lot last year, it's been a few months but I don't think it's changed so much I can beat the first boss haha, I used to get to 100 easily without having to try much.

Am I doing something Wrong or is my game glitching?

dawn hatch
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wtf is that team, where is the damage dealer?

dawn hatch
tulip bronze
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any recommendations?

dawn hatch
simple crown
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Just lost 5v1 lol

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TWICE

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idek who that enemy is LOL

clear quartz
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Thali is a beast when shes stronger than her enemy, rough in campaign at deficit too

tulip bronze
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trying to beat 255+ any swaps I should consider?

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currently at 230 🤔

simple crown
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How's bronn?

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Considering build him very soon

tulip bronze
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idk he's a merc

simple crown
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Oh

south mason
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300✅️

amber isle
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Danke

burnt bay
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is there a point in going past 50 on trait enhancer? i vaguely remember someone telling me it was diminishing returns

burnt bay
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okay yeah looks like 50 is the reccomended stop, thanks!

tulip bronze
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but IDK if other traits would help me progress further... so i levelled it all the way to 60 anyway 😅

burnt bay
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jeeez

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make sure you’re putting points in the “room” side, big help on not losing as much stability and starting with more

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i had bought a couple packs so i was able to max 2 of them isathumbsup

tulip bronze
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that could probably help at msot stages but those were I simply dont have enough dmg to kill the enemy team 🤔

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it's only my 2nd temporal rift season so far

burnt bay
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ahh gotcha

burnt bay
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do you get anymore trift coins after 300? ill be at 5300 but i wanted to get eugene copy

sharp grove
gentle nest
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Da Vinci?

dawn hatch
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yes

burnt bay
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until i swipe?

sharp grove
burnt bay
chilly hull
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Even though the stats are smaller, it's still more help than the other ones

turbid yoke
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Super late to f300 but here are my teams. Hope my teams help someone in need!
Beacons: TE 50, LD 3, NL 4
Beackonings: asol, robin hood
Badge: boulder, ring, axe, cloud, meteor

proud nimbus
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Hi. When does the 30 team resets happen?

zealous stirrup
proud nimbus
zealous stirrup
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Yes collections do

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Artifacts show but they don't have any effect

flint hawk
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What are the best rewards to get in order of priority for tr?

proud nimbus
proud nimbus
warm zinc
# turbid yoke

I dont have any of those awokes but belinda what can I sub with

turbid yoke
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I think wokes beside abel and ashem are all subable

sturdy sapphire
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Guys i need a second team but idk whats the Best i can chose, any one could tell me?

livid igloo
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Who wants to help me make 2 teams

bronze saddle
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Which one of these should I take?

stoic juniper
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Which is best between twins and ezizh

tawdry salmon
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Are there any rewards after floor 300?

clear quartz
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only frames for leaderboard ranking and those are very whale only

tawdry salmon
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Ok. thanks.

sour gyro
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Are the resets coming today or tomorrow?

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They are today, nevermind

kind mural
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if f2p want to push from 300, are there any beacon skills helpful to get other than TE?

river plover
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obviously the comps are outdated

unborn spoke
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new hypo any good for this? just got him in beckoning

chilly hull
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Side note: Bob's comps are outdated but if they could clear old trift they can still clear current
Because it's only been nerfed since then

tough ingot
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simona or malk prob

unborn spoke
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any help on my teams? mostly on team 4 but usually 1 of my heroes keep dying in each team and i lose stability slowly

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feel like i should be getting to 300 easily w my heroes idk

clear quartz
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your box not too far from mine by the looks Ill send my teams

unborn spoke
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ok ty

clear quartz
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saf without si40 for sure

unborn spoke
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also my alyca asaf abrut are beckoning dunno how big of a diff that makes

dawn hatch
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depends on their investment

clear quartz
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309e60 beckons should be as good as mine

unborn spoke
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yea idk how to check

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when do they turn to si 40 i got 5 si 40 heroes

clear quartz
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vei would be good baden sub probably

dawn hatch
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regular talene imo her healing and dmg should be better than the awakened one

unborn spoke
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oh i can make my team 1 athali

clear quartz
dawn hatch
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3rd

clear quartz
unborn spoke
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at 5/9 and have 10 cards

dawn hatch
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i think so

clear quartz
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I think some amount of cards yeah

dawn hatch
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yea thats a good use of cards

clear quartz
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I spent 4 cards personally

unborn spoke
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should i also card athalia? also at 5/9

dawn hatch
unborn spoke
#

damn

dawn hatch
#

awakened heroes are the reason u save cards

unborn spoke
#

2 slots on furn wishlist tho

#

idk who to put now was already scrounging

clear quartz
#

of the awakeneds Atha 9f isnt the highest prio though. She should be on WL though

unborn spoke
#

oop just carded her

clear quartz
#

well its not a bad thing to get

dawn hatch
#

not the end of the world imo

unborn spoke
dawn hatch
#

eorin and trish, and when eorin hits 3 remove him for ezio

unborn spoke
#

👍

dawn hatch
#

🫡

limpid hound
#

Daniel helping my mentor means Pimplord is my mentor too

dawn hatch
#

is he your mentor?

limpid hound
#

Yee

unborn spoke
#

wtf u already got green role thats crazy

limpid hound
#

I live in the questions chat lol

#

U gotta request it when u hit the level threshold too

unborn spoke
#

should i be stopping auto battle when heroes die?

slim lion
#

300 achieved for the first time ever smug_dolly
Beacons: trait 50, legacy 7, lightning duel 3.
Beckoning: aluc, atalene, abaden, abrutus, skreg, sonja (+more trash)
buff: meteor > cloud > armor > axe > dagger
pet reso 9, only seal is 18
cheers and good luck isathumbsup

clear quartz
#

talenerise gratz

near zodiac
#

full auto battle

#

trait 50, legacy 5, lightning duel 5.

#

ignoring the pet levels the teams are good

near zodiac
#

Yes

fresh nebula
#

what to focus on after trait enhancer 50

clear quartz
#

lightning duel and noble legacy

fresh nebula
#

ty who should i take here they all kinda dukie tho

clear quartz
#

eironn but idk if youre gonna use him

fresh nebula
#

who does he work with?

clear quartz
#

I think youd mostly use him to CC problem enemies

bronze saddle
#

Which of these should I take?

clear quartz
#

Probably Lucretia but she is a pretty bad rift hero generally

amber isle
gentle nest
tough ingot
#

oku prob

quasi sapphire
#

Teams to get past 320?

gentle nest
#

I'm stuck at 260 myself

#

My comps stop working when they become e80s

chilly hull
#

221 and 261 are the toughest powerspikes

gentle nest
#

Yeah.. I'm stuck at 263 specifically

edgy bloom
#

Any major suggestions for teams, main teams struggling are rem and abel resulting in a few deaths every few floors

dawn hatch
#

take grez out of the rem team and put mulan in

edgy bloom
#

Even without her 9f?

#

Also isn't mulan wanted in pos 4?

visual minnow
#

only badges i have right now is the cloud and meteor. any potential comps that could work? i know i don't have much at the moment

proud grotto
#

Does Asafya help on temporal or?

clear quartz
#

certainly

gentle nest
#

Daemia kinda sucks

clear quartz
#

she can delay the end of fights, which is bad in rift

chilly hull
#

Dae works if you're strong enough to run her

gentle nest
#

Seems like I'm not worthy

solid pawn
#

what day is the reset of rewind in rift

gentle nest
#

After lightning duel lv 3 noble legacy lv 7, what's the next room upgrade? Stability amplifier?

river plover
#

iirc he just says go trait after you have those

gentle nest
#

Trait it is

bronze saddle
#

What should I take here?

lunar lava
#

can I make 3 teams, floor 80 rn

river plover
edgy bloom
#

Is there anything major I'm missing here? There is a huge currency difference between me and some of my friends

#

I'm floor 270 they're on 315

#

Is there a way to get more essence that I'm not aware of

zealous stirrup
#

Under temporal feedback, if you make purchases you get points

#

Those points allow you to claim extra essence

edgy bloom
#

Ah, so it's not some weird min max trick

#

Good enough then, I thought I was just overlooking something

zealous stirrup
edgy bloom
#

Yeah that's only 1.3k difference between us, guess it's a whale diff, team comp too Ofc

zealous stirrup
#

Team comp helps with pushing

edgy bloom
#

Yeah, first 4 teams are doing fine, missing an extra good dps for team 5

fresh nebula
#

is it possible to make four teams out of this box for tr

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i should be able to ascend the scarlet m grez in a few hours

gentle nest
#

Yes. And just fish for good beckons

simple crown
fresh nebula
#

guess her si30 is a major blunder thought it was what made her powerful

tough ingot
#

just continue to build her

gentle nest
#

Not a blunder at all. She's your LB carry anyway until you build ABelinda.

simple crown
#

I ended up carding mine to f9 cause I did same thing and si30 her when f9 wasnt very close

#

But her si30 and f9 both multiply her dmg by a lot, so if you're missing one, she's basically a fraction of her potential

#

I used her on LB tower on E tho, cause I just didn't have better LB carry. It works for a while cause faction towers start out easy

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But she cant start to melt higher deficit enemies until 309e0 min

rough pelican
#

Floor 300

clear quartz
rough pelican
gentle nest
simple crown
#

i cant floor 300 till next week

novel spindle
#

What should I put my mats into?

#

also is there a way to restart all the way back to 1st floor?

river plover
fallen badger
edgy bloom
#

Any team suggestion changes? Wilder team seems to fail every few stages and Scarlett team ends up with a few deaths now and then, others seem to finish almost flawless so far

fresh nebula
simple crown
livid igloo
#

Can someone help me@make 2 teams

#

I’m bad at it

fresh nebula
livid igloo
#

My screenshots refuse to send

livid igloo
livid igloo
vast goblet
#

Should I reset my faction buffs and put it all into trait enhancer? Currently at floor 217

simple crown
#

how much it cost to reset?

clear quartz
#

no cost to reset until you do it a certain amount of times iirc

simple crown
#

oh then yeah

simple crown
#

wut

gentle nest
#

Apparently not. So don't let your dreams be dreams!

jolly grail
#

Good team?

chilly hull
#

Probably better off splitting AwAtha to t2 instead of using Scar

limpid hound
#

ugliest one will be the most op

gentle nest
#

"Behold, the legendary dragon!"
"ewww!"

cobalt silo
#

Do I have a chance?

south falcon
#

maybe rem instead of morael

cobalt silo
#

Almost zero change homegalul

bronze saddle
#

Which one, the graveborn?

native mesa
#

bronn

tranquil heron
#

May an experienced player help me out in dms? I can show my heroes mercs, badges, id like to reach 300 before end of this season would be appreciated

elder agate
#

anyone got a team for pushing beyond 300

native mesa
zealous stirrup
native mesa
#

if u got high te. tieba one is solid

zealous stirrup
#

"high te" thanecry

tough ingot
#

what is tieba

zealous stirrup
tough ingot
#

might be a link to guides in baidu tieba

rough pelican
#

The holy grail of cn guides

tranquil heron
rough pelican
tranquil heron
#

from trift

rough pelican
#

Show teams

#

U probably can’t hit fl300 tho

tranquil heron
#

how come

rough pelican
#

Lack of carries

tranquil heron
#

would u be willing to help out in dms i can like show profile and stuff

rough pelican
#

Just send it hereisathumbsup

tranquil heron
#

This is excluding trift mercs

rough pelican
#

Oh what my bad ur account was bigger than I thought

tranquil heron
#

💀

rough pelican
#

We can talk in dmstiduslaugh

tranquil heron
#

thx lol

autumn zinc
#

I got scammed btw, rhat merlin should be si30

#

@clear quartz isathumbsup

clear quartz
#

k one sec

autumn zinc
#

@tawny vessel can confirm that i got scammed, i shouldve got si30 merlin belovedzikis

clear quartz
#

hm 5 is gonna be tough

autumn zinc
#

Yea belovedzikis

clear quartz
#

so carries would be Rem, Abel, AShem, Liberta and.....several sub dps heroes I guess?

autumn zinc
#

i think abel ivan carries one team without needing good supports

autumn zinc
#

or like heal through the pain with naroko asol silas

clear quartz
#

Yeah ASol has good damage too

#

Do you need Ivan on ABel? IDK how good she is with no 9f but If you can do like ABel Palmer Jerome and some filler that should work in theory

autumn zinc
#

hm i could try, ive tried abel without ivan before and it didnt really go well but with the right supports it could work, freeing ivan would make another team way better

clear quartz
#

yeah that was my thinking

#

if not he can stay there

#

man I feel like a Bedo beckon would do wonders for you

autumn zinc
#

uhhh

#

albedo?

clear quartz
#

yeah. if si30

autumn zinc
#

uh i didnt have rem before lol

#

soooo i took silas

#

didnt plan on getting rem but i got stuck at 5 teams

clear quartz
autumn zinc
#

yea rip belovedzikis

clear quartz
#

k: here is my rough draft you may need to adjust when you see it in action for yourself

#

Rowan Jerome Abel Palmer Raine
Ashem Simona Silas filler
Ivan Rem filler
Atheus Liberta Nevanthi filler
Naroko Daimon ASol Oden Emilia

autumn zinc
#

alr i'll go try it out

#

thx

clear quartz
#

last team is just "good heroes and they all are on a team" tbh

clear quartz
autumn zinc
clear quartz
#

also what pet options are we looking at?

#

also I dont really know what Framton does theres probably a place for him somewhere in there

autumn zinc
autumn zinc
#

uhhhh shoot

#

yikes

#

dam i forgor

#

rems not in the lineup

#

i filled up the 35 with random purps so i wouldnt get the annoying pop up

clear quartz
# autumn zinc

Seal Liberta team, Owl ABel team, Talis Rem, Black ball random bs go 5th team, green ball Shem I guess?

autumn zinc
#

hm thats tough i'll see if i can find something that works

#

eh ivan could make any dps work ngl

#

maybe simona out of the 2nd team, ashem carries fine herslef i think

#

and try ivan simona

#

worst case i restart the run

clear quartz
#

yeah Shem should need the least help

scenic snow
valid sand
#

What in gods green earth is this. Stage 300, 5v1 strongest team I have and I can't beat 1 orthos because he out tanks me. Any advice on how I can reset the entire stage?

#

My strongest team for reference

polar topaz
#

use characters that can stun/disable him from ulting

autumn zinc
#

@clear quartz

clear quartz
weak dew
#

Anyone got a team comp for ALuc/Baden/Thane?

shadow karma
#

what’re the best rift teams I could make?

autumn zinc
#

@clear quartz does morael carry

#

If she doesn’t carry well, it’s prob better I go for a support/ tank right

vivid haven
#

Any good teams from this?

fallen badger
frigid thunder
#

who do i use to push some floors in tr?

dawn hatch
#

you will get to 2 teams if youre lucky

#

but just run your rem standard campaign team

frigid thunder
#

gotcha! thanks mate!

frigid thunder
dawn hatch
#

you can use that same team

frigid thunder
#

yeah no it dont work, im on floor 20 and they all die first 5-15 seconds

dawn hatch
#

rem ivan atheus dragon gwyn and rowan i guess

frigid thunder
#

i cant use atheus hes not e+

frigid thunder
dawn hatch
#

thoran should be fine

frigid thunder
#

also cloud of tempest or meteoric rise for bonus thingy

dawn hatch
#

meteor

frigid thunder
#

somethin lik this ?

dawn hatch
#

yea that should work till 2 teams

frigid thunder
#

allrighty preciate it mate

dawn hatch
#

🫡

frigid thunder
#

if i get stuck or anything can i @ you or do i just send a msg here

dawn hatch
#

just send a message

frigid thunder
#

o7

#

stuck here cant beat it no idea what who where and how

dawn hatch
#

how high is your trait enhancer

frigid thunder
#

lvl 10 ? the lil artifact thingy w.e?

dawn hatch
#

This thing

frigid thunder
#

oh shit im supposed to level only that one up... i did 1 lvl on eveyrthing

dawn hatch
#

end the run and do it this way

frigid thunder
#

its at level 10 rn thats the highest i can take it to

dawn hatch
#

all the way to 50

frigid thunder
#

50s a bit tuff atm no can do, max is 10 sadly

dawn hatch
#

have u collected the essence in the fountain?

frigid thunder
#

yes, collected everything max is lvl 10 for now

dawn hatch
#

yikes

#

how long have u been playing on that account?

frigid thunder
#

i mean im like 4-5 full playtime days in tbh its a 1 week old account

dawn hatch
#

oh

frigid thunder
#

yeah ahhaah

dawn hatch
#

then guve up for now you need a much stronger enhancer or much better invested heroes

frigid thunder
#

everywhere im stuck is cuz the power difference is like 6-7x higher then mine haha

frigid thunder
edgy bloom
#

300 doesn't look too doable at this point but still furthest I've got

#

For an account with only 3 wokes I'll take it

dawn hatch
#

youll do better next round

mild shale
edgy bloom
edgy bloom
dawn hatch
clear quartz
shell storm
amber isle
amber isle
#

We don't. Care

dawn hatch
amber isle
woeful fjord
#

don't disrespect twins please

vivid haven
#

Who should I take

dawn hatch
#

lucuis

proper basin
#

Who to take?

dawn hatch
#

talene

proper basin
#

Thanks!

dawn hatch
#

🫡

green swift
#

if i use alna with abel, and i do dims aathalia (without rem), what should my rem team look like?

dawn hatch
green swift
#

thats the dims team right?

dawn hatch
#

yea that should work for the dims team

#

can you send a pic once its built

green swift
#

what do i run for the rem team?

dawn hatch
#

just send the pic of all the teams

green swift
#

im shallow in a run for resets but 1 sec

#

Ignore the pets, this was almost exactly what I was running in my last run that died at 290. Athane was the last slot in the Scarlett team

#

@dawn hatch

dawn hatch
#

where are you gonna put rem?

green swift
#

Not sure, should I do double tank and have rem back line?

#

Like just throw in Brutus pr something

#

In my last run I was doing alna rem but then my Abel team bled so much hp every floor

dawn hatch
#

so abel is struggling the most?

green swift
#

Yeah

dawn hatch
#

also what lvl is your trait enhancer at

green swift
#

59, but I could squeeze a level or 2 if needed

dawn hatch
#

okay, strange. okay give abel alna

green swift
#

So assuming I run rem liberta asaf as a core, who do I fill into that team?

#

I've tried daemia in the past but keeping the fight going actually feels quite bad

dawn hatch
#

there are a ton of dmg dealers in that team but if it works it works

green swift
#

Do I just fill it with tanks then?

dawn hatch
#

no its fine for now

#

try the abel team and let me know how it works?

green swift
#

Ok so joa ezio rem liberta asaf is ok?

#

I tried alna Abel at the end of last round and it was much better

#

But I was just low unfortunatrly

dawn hatch
green swift
#

awesome, thanks so much 🙂

dawn hatch
#

🫡

#

i dont even know what i changed but your welcome

green swift
#

just needed to bounce ideas and get confirmation which you gave solisemelon

dawn hatch
#

okay bru

neon zenith
#

I can choose five heros and those are the teams what should i do excatly

dawn hatch
#

kren, ashem, eugene, simona and nyla

#

put cruke in the brutus team and put tamrus in the back

#

what happened to the dim guy?

neon zenith
neon zenith
#

Fixed it by putting rems team in the 2nd team

neon zenith
dawn hatch
#

well fuck

neon zenith
#

I am fucked?

dawn hatch
#

no, i was just wondering

neon zenith
#

Ok so now what to do only got one merc

dawn hatch
#

who was in the first team?

neon zenith
#

Anasta scarlett daimon thee guy i merced and i think brutus

neon zenith
dawn hatch
#

idk you can put kren in team 1 and see how it does, the biggest problem here is the lack of dmg dealers

dawn hatch
neon zenith
dawn hatch
#

yes that team

neon zenith
#

But tamrus instead of who?

dawn hatch
#

no one he stays on the team

neon zenith
#

I think i mixed the teams sorry for that

dawn hatch
#

im going off the pics you sent

neon zenith
dawn hatch
#

its fine for now try it and see how you do otherwise you might have to give up on getting the rewards this time around

neon zenith
dawn hatch
#

fuck these are quite bad, take zikis the 2nd one

neon zenith
#

In what team?

dawn hatch
#

the team that struggles

neon zenith
dawn hatch
#

so put him in there, remove nara

neon zenith
surreal eagle
#

Which better

dawn hatch
#

maetria

surreal eagle
#

are you good in making teams?

dawn hatch
surreal eagle
#

So here are my heroes and teams I made, but it could be better I think but I also don't know much about it

dawn hatch
#

which teams struggle and can you send the entire hero box please

surreal eagle
#

I think 4th cause I lack of good heroes, those awakened like baden, maetria and solise I got from portal

dawn hatch
#

solise can go to that 4th team since nevanthi is there, might wanna put the seal on there tho

surreal eagle
#

I don't know how to send you whole box with heroes, don't see any option to expand that

dawn hatch
#

nah just go to the hero box and ill do the lifting from there

surreal eagle
#

This is what you meant?

dawn hatch
#

this works

#

which ones did you say you had merced?

#

tbh i dont think the lib and dae team needs the seal

surreal eagle
#

asolise, meatria, abaden, desira

surreal eagle
dawn hatch
#

yea if you add, solise to the 4th team and add the seal

surreal eagle
#

My 4th team looks like that now

dawn hatch
#

idk if this was necessary but if it works it works

surreal eagle
#

actually in certain stages it struggles

surreal eagle
#

Da Vinci?

#

Should I change Jerome for Edwin in ashem comp and put jerome in 4th team?

wary flower
#

Are there anymore resets before this ends

#

I thought i had another week of rewinds

shell storm
#

Is seal not optimal for rift?

dawn hatch
shell storm
#

they don't seem to do much at higher stages

dawn hatch
#

well what lvl is the seal?

shell storm
#

18

dawn hatch
#

strange who do you run him with usually?

shell storm
dawn hatch
#

must be killing too quick then

shell storm
#

If I don't my team gets wiped khasosrun

dawn hatch
#

50/50 aint that life

fallen badger
#

High stages do be like that

dawn hatch
#

what floor are you at?

fallen badger
#

350+ atm my seal team is the worst atm too

dawn hatch
fallen badger
#

Just can't stall anymore, maybe if I used ashem but that's a different team already and not struggling

dawn hatch
#

you just want a frame?

shell storm
#

okay, I see nowisathumbsup

fallen badger
#

Very petty non heroic reason

dawn hatch
#

game is game. these are the conditions for progress. i cant blame you

peak coral
#

Is auto battle worth using?

dawn hatch
#

yes but it could skip some floors that could actually help you

peak coral
#

Yeah thats why I was tentative. I'll just send it for now since it's still going relatively smooth

peak coral
#

Hmm I'm pretty hardstuck once I needed 4 teams, maybe this is as far as I can go

#

What rewards are most worth from the shop? I assume TE?

dawn hatch
#

TE, SG then baits in that order

peak coral
#

Thanks

green swift
#

How often do we get our resets back? Is it once a week?

proven arrow
#

yes. reset in a few hours

bronze saddle
#

Which should I pick?

dawn hatch
sudden dust
#

can i make it to 300 with these? on 280 atm

dawn hatch
#

unfortuenately not you should get past 220 tho

neon zenith
#

Who is the best choice here?

neon zenith
#

I am terrible at making rift teams can someone help me?

frigid thunder
#

uhm please help, ive come to 2 teams and idk who to run or anything 😅 who should i run for the 2nd team

fallen badger
neon zenith
#

And when you get a merc ask who is the best and use it in the second team

frigid thunder
cosmic flume
#

can some1 help me with a good team comp to murder this abomination ?

hasty shard
#

rem dimensional team works well for me against that thing, but ofc im at like floor 259 max

fossil monolith
neon zenith
fossil monolith
#

try simona tamrus ashem rowan jerome/a tank in 1 team

#

its my most consistent team so far

#

then a rem team and maybe an ivan team

#

2 frontliners and then enough dmg dealers and supports in the back is what i do

#

probably scarlet lib ivan in 1 team and 2 tanks

#

rem ezizh 2 tanks and a support lyca maybe?

#

think that should get you as far as i am at least

neon zenith
#

I will try that out

fossil monolith
#

is like how you to build rem team

#

supports and tanks to keep the damage dealer alive long enough to murder everyone

#

simona tamrus is insane

#

tamrus groups them

#

simona bell just kills them with aoe dps

neon zenith
#

It's the best from the three

#

Rem one is the worst

fossil monolith
#

switch couple tanks or supports around to see what works good with rem

#

or maybe try swapping ivan and ezizh

#

it may make that other team weaker though

neon zenith
#

Ok but when i face a one team fight is this the best team i can make?

fossil monolith
#

one team i use the ivan rem together

neon zenith
#

And simona?

fossil monolith
#

and similar team pretty much

#

simona can probably go and add a support maybe

neon zenith
#

Lib?

#

Yeah i didn't try him yet in mythic

fossil monolith
#

lib ezizh rowan jerome any should work ive never struggled vs 1 teams

#

right now 142 or 143 is kicking my ass

neon zenith
#

Ezizh isn't that good

neon zenith
fossil monolith
#

ill be trying again lol follow guides to the letter

neon zenith
#

Bro lib is insane 😧

neon zenith
fossil monolith
#

i have about 20 more

neon zenith
#

I didn't use mine so i hope i can get 140

neon zenith
fossil monolith
#

tough but i think abaden can have a team centered around him

#

the guides ive read highly recommend him

neon zenith
#

Put him instead of ezizh?

fossil monolith
summer ibex
#

idk if abaden can carry on minimal ivnestment

simple crown
#

rift 300 finally done ❤️

#

even with my goofy teams xD

lone mortar
#

...I don't think I'm able to rich floor 300. But good for you~~

simple crown
lone mortar
shell storm
hollow surge
#

or badges im sorry

lone mortar
shell storm
#

Elite/ purple color

simple crown
#

She's just filler

simple crown
#

Scarlet team work well against mauler teams as long as they dont have Thali

#

Wilder team vs as many gbs as possible so Talismane can fear them

#

if you have lvl 9 tali

#

Rem vs as little cc as possible and not in direct path of assassins

#

Emilia can beat most stuff though occasionally she struggle on 281-300 cause the floor debuff negates cc >:[

#

Awshem beats literally anyone besides bosses

simple crown
#

makes sense since she has cc and stuff

#

She seems insane once built too. I'm defo building her first.

viscid zealot
#

Hello, i'm stuck on floor 165-166.

#

If i'm sharing my toons can you help me figuring out the team i can try ?

#

got REM as well

full widget
#

Anyone got a bomb TR setup to get to 350 stage atleast?
got everyone except Gavus and Maetria built

viscid zealot
#

I'm aware of all i have to do to catch up my late on heroes, my question was about my current toons.

#

if i had every ressources and co to invest on what i'm missing, for sure it will be already done mate 😄

bronze saddle
#

Which of these should I take?

lone mortar
bronze saddle
#

Ty

plucky herald
#

Who's the best ? Lady Simona or bronn?

amber isle
ashen vigil
#

Sonja

rough pelican
#

Bronn if u have a 303 Simona

plucky herald
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Do you guys have a comp for the floor 300 boss ?
Here are my comps, but I can't hit him hard enough and I only have 1 reset left 😬😬😨

tough ingot
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try ivan r5 and raine in r1?

plucky herald
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He had to hit twice but his lavatune was only mythic so maybe I can manage to hit it better ?

tough ingot
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try and see

plucky herald
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Just for the record, it worked first try with lvl9 panda

plucky herald
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I was so close .... But the 4 teams are much stronger than during the 299 stage....

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Now I don't have enough for Eugene copy.. (went for SG cards for lavatune ....) should I buy TE/SG cards or baits ?

green swift
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how do i exit my current run and save my current position? im on 287 with 800 hp and i want to save this >_<

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i just really dont want to fuck it up more than anything tbh

plucky herald
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You'll be able either to start over at 280 with full hp

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Or back at 287 with the 800 you had and as I sait without the beacon heroes

naive root
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How i am supposed to beat that without any hero dying? I’m only at stage 220 WAAAHsos

shell storm
simple crown
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I beat 300 boss with this

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Couldn't quite 1 shot so I did 2 battle

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But I forgot what sigils I had. It was axe though

fossil monolith
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One star nyla or 1star athalia? not woke
Si20 not e30
Beckoning place mercs

frigid thunder
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i need 2 teams and idk who to use :/

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i reached floor 70 but i couldnt beat it

dawn hatch
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send a pic of the rem team

frigid thunder
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i was usin what u told me b4 rem ivan thoran brutus and gwyn, i think thats what i used to get to floor 60 or smthn idk and then i just used scarlet abel or w.e i could

dawn hatch
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okay can you send a pic of that team then

frigid thunder
dawn hatch
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go to formations and create the team you have been using so far

frigid thunder
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ohhh i gotchu i gotchu now

dawn hatch
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im not about to mess with whats worked so far

frigid thunder
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so this team usually worked 100% just swapped around some artis for gwyn when id want her to do her ult faster etc... for 2nd team it was trying to get scarlet to live and get as much ults as possible so like lucius rowan scarlet and the other 2 were there to die aswell just a bunch of random shit tbh

dawn hatch
frigid thunder
dawn hatch
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you have my permission

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if anyone shits on you for it just let em know i approved it

frigid thunder
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but im missing 1 fodder unless i feed gwyn or rigby

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im missin a shit ton of those 1 copies for food man its killing me to pieces

dawn hatch
frigid thunder
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ive wanted to make jerome mythic for so fucking long man its surreal...

dawn hatch
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also you know by now when you send the box it should be sorted by faction

frigid thunder
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im missin some more of those shits to get him to si20 around 150 so like

dawn hatch
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you can make naroko mythic too

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thats fine, youll work on him slowly

frigid thunder
frigid thunder
dawn hatch
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please, its late for me and im struggling to keep track of everything

frigid thunder
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thats 4f everyone else is yeah...

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naroko is also mythic btw, both her n jerome are mythic and also si10

dawn hatch
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cool cool cool

frigid thunder
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sorry for botherin ya if yer busy, but u could also gimme the teams tmrw if u want? ion wanna keep u if ur headin to bed n stuff

dawn hatch
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nah its fine just taking a break while i work on some stuff for my dad

frigid thunder
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ah i see, preciate you mate!!

dawn hatch
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naroko jerome atheus abel/scarlett (who really needs the si30 and 9f btw) and rowan i guess

frigid thunder
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okok and for the 13th hero that i can bring who do i bring ?

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oh nvm im stupid abe/scarlett ane 12 n 13

dawn hatch
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yup

frigid thunder
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and for the artifacts?

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cloud tempest, armor, sword

dawn hatch
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doesnt really matter tbh. you should try building colls for them at this stage