#temporal-rift
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If you dont have a 9f Alna yourself her else Baden
Hi guys, I was wondering what teams would you suggest me to start with for TR ? Also do you have ideas for the 4 teams in late TR ?
No abel?
WELL WELL WELL
No
Smack that’s a hard decision. Do u have working rem team? If yes the go liberta for another good team
I chose lib bcs if i got Lucille later
Yeah think it’s more ideal
I have rem team 
Yeah lib sounds solid
Got 300 last season with him
Sadly no, only 2 copies atm... Currently starting to build her..
Ur gonna wanna reset rift until u get abel in beckoning place then
And which heroes should I put in the team to start in case I get her in beckoning place ?
Alna Palmer Rowan Ivan with abel prob
But make sure to restart until u get her. It’ll be hard to make it to 300 without her with ur pool
is there any link to the newer guides of temporal rift? i cant find them
Bob's guide still has relevant info, but there's no new team comp guides
Farararara's sheet is somewhat more recent
i always look at Crowdsource Discord
ok thx buddys
you forgot a few ra's
where i can find it?
pins
which
I'd take Haelus because I already have 9f grez
i do too
then why wouldn't you take haelus
anyone who built aShemira got a good rift team built around her yet?
I got one from beckon and just slot her on dims
i rather suspect shemira will just kinda go in whatever your weakest comp is otherwise, she seems flexible
she might be specifically good at ensuring key ults from heroes who might normally be difficult to get an ult out of
Kraken friendly 
well, I wasted all 7 rewinds cuz I only rolled beckon 3x, and each time was garbage heroes
guess I'm pushing next week 😅
who needs beckons anyway
Facts 
I wasted all 7 rewind to fish for good floor 1 beckon then pushed 100 floors without getting a single beckoning place
at least it's much easier to reset now that autobattle stops at beckoning place
does it stop at flora's dew/blessing also?
no
flora dew it just accepts, blessing room picks the first option I think
well, it's somewhat smart - if you're missing some amount of stability (like 100-200) min it picks flora dew, otherwise it will pick a combat
Lib wasn't my weakest team last trift but I'll prob just put my AwShem beckon there because it makes the most sense
are beckoning places completely random?
yes
almost. u get 4 special floors every 20 floors. u can refresh until u get them early
ty

is that always true 
Yo i just unlocked this but im completely overwhelmed im trying to follow the guide but i dont understand nothin can someone give me some quick tips of what i should do at the beginning to make this go smooth?
ur gonna want to place an abel team (which u hopefully have) and start the the run
and exit the run if u dont trigger good beckoning place heroes. cause ur gonna need it given ur account seems pretty new. and then restart run
Can anyone take a look at my hero box and recommend some team comps?
probably won't get much help if you just post a box. try to look through old ss in this channel, pinned guide etc, and make an effort to build your own comps from there. then you can post those and you'll have a better chance of getting feedback. no one has the energy to help build comps from scratch, it's much easier to tinker with something that already exists
^^^^exactly what potato said 
Need a strong lineup for temporal rift
literally read the message right above yours lmao
but honestly you should start over on the newest server
Need a strong lineup for temporal rift

I attempted to look at older ss but I haven't played in over a year and I'm missing a lot of heroes that seem to used by the majority of people, not including the pay to win comps. Understandable though, only asked in case someone was bored enough to give it a shot.
Why?
because you took a break
couldn't have been too long ago, but yeah 1078 is definitely older than a month seeing as we're on 1098 now
pretty sure 1098 is like 2 days old at most
So it will take i wile when 1099 will be the new one?
maybe 2~3 days, I think
4-5 days, i started there and i already have the day 5 rewards unlocked
Level up trait enhancer
is there actually a way to upgrade the temporal armilliary or just have to wait?
Any suggestions?
W8 1 month
wait. or 💳 i think
I don't think you can even whale it, whaling gives you currency to lvl traits not xp itself
someone have guide for TR ?
Wrong channel for that buddy, this is trift
TR = Temporal Rift?
TR is and always has been twisted realm
Wyca saf or shem ? 
does anyone know how to beat him , he just heals non stop
rip I've waited like 3 days and still didn't have enough dmg
haven't got any of those 3 built , oh well maybe one day I'll beat him
okay thanks , I'll give it a go

Whem for PvP, Asaf for CR I guess
Hmm whem over asaf in pvp 
I should ask JHawk
But he’s gonna say wAiT lIkE a MoNtH dUmbAsS
Rem, mulan, aThane (build), eorin (build), deamia (build) + seal
Literally easiest mini boss..
It's not easy for new players who have none of those built lol
And that is a very strange comp regardless
Guys did i understand it right that gear have impact on temporal rift?
No
Is there any way to restart your run if you beat f100?
I forgot to make a save on f1
it won't let u exit until the next 20 floors open in a few days
Ooh yeah. Also 40 floors coming
Potato big nub 
bitch i was right. the next 20 floors are opening in a few days. it just so happens that the next 20 floors after that are also opening in a few days
When do the other beacons become available
for u never. u have to clear rift with te10 good luck


What’s the strategy in the rift? Are new players (I’m at campaign 32-6) just stuck on floor 150 ish?
I just kept upgrading the stats
well you can't go past 100 right now. I think anyone with decent heros can, over 3 months, get to at least 200
Wrong 
bok alert
Keep upgrading the trait enhancer one until at least lvl 50
and just get better heroes/beasts over time from playing the game normally
do you just auto-battle every time ?
no, i always pick the floors which give badge resets
I autobattle until it's hard and I have to arrange teams to counter enemies
Some idea? 
Reset until good beckons 
But I have good ones :/
How is ukyo and athalia good 

Oh, you mean new mercenaries 🥲
I will reset then again from lv 1 
Tysm 
Who to grab here?
Prob tarnos
Any idea for 3/4 teams?
not abaden?
Hm, idk if he can be more useful then Jerome
Since I need some heal on my teams on TR
either way you're gonna want to restart the whole run later in the season
to get 309 beckons
Yeah..
you know the rules for beckons right?
5/5 top cmbr for si30, 3/5 for 9f, avg of top 5 engraves (ignoring cmbr) for engrave
Guys what options do I have for 3 teams?
(Daimon is linked to rem), trish is not linked cause she helped me a lot in rift
which are the best seals?
I follow this one but idk if it's 100% correct or not, they did help me tho
the special seals for ring badge are also pretty good
bro i just got killed at floor 100 ffs
just wait for more levels
Does it matter? My experience is that my character are always way stronger...
baden
It matters, since sometime you don't have a good hero so you can get it from that
you'll end up resetting from level 1 later in the season when your mercs are stronger anyway
Ty 🙏, yeah. Tysm all of ya for help 🙂
Which one should I take? Here’s what I have rn.
I found this in the rift team comps, though this may be a little outdated.

also there might be better options. My Raku is pretty bad (si30f3E6) so maybe it's better to get him. I can do stuff besides Geralt.
No
So then Raku for something like this?
Well I have to pick one, might as well pick one that I have a team for, I'll go with Raku.
im should update that 
How about these? Which one is the best?
Kren used to be good when energy carried over between fights. I’m not sure how good he is now
ezio is kinda meh because his execute becomes like a tiny sliver of their hp
zolrath maybe?
ezio or zol id guess yeah. ezio is meh most of the time in rift
zol still have some use
unless he ends the fight when your whole team is 1 hp 
yeah thats the problem. i learned to use dae and ezio post 300. before 300 i dont have enough resource to reduce stam loss
true, I didn't start using him until I had the upgrade to reduce stability loss due to missing health
^^^
ah that makes sense
I switched ezio for silas
for the instant-ish heal from gas clouds when dae ult ends

@native mesa help w teams plz
Homie it's 3t
Idk wat to use tho
especially now that you can trait 15
Does it cap at 15 
rigged means for now:
Yeah I know it didn't cap at 15 forever 
I don't really remember last season I thought it went up to 20 right away
it goes to 25 in 5 more lvls
I don’t think f2p can keep it capped after that
speaking of, is 1 lightning duel early on worth it if you have to be one lvl lower on TE to pick it?
Seems unlikely
how hard it is to reach floor 300?
established f2p like jhawk can reach 300 and keep pushing
newer f2p will struggle
if you are a spender it will be tremendously easier but that obviously varies wildly on spending level
I made it to 374 as a 3 month old player and 413 as a 6 month player, for some examples of a significant spender can do 
You need pretty meta heros for f2p, though good luck on beckoning places helps alleviate that
nice
f2p falls behind at 35
I was a relatively new player (270 days as of today) and made it to 276 this past season. The season before that (first season of rift 2.0) I made it to 226 I think.
So it's pretty doable as long as you do good investments and understand beckon setup
What’s the chapter requirement for it?
a Ch 14 account would be like <4 months old by the end of its first full rift if the timing was good
that would be tough lol
and yes i did make this alt for the sole purpose of gambling with the 50 free TE every time a woke comes out
I think that it should still be doable to get to 161.
With trait enhancer lv50 and even semi competent setups those floors will be a breeze, 161 is start of 4team
Yeah just being TE 50+ would go a very long way as long as you have some skeletons of teams
Like beckon Lyca and Athalia and TE50 probably means you one shot those floors with both of those heroes lmao
Then you only need to make one team
Which will be ABel, f2p should have her by the end of the season
well the beckons would be like A203 or something 
but yeah should still be fairly simple
Hey guys
Probably a very dumb question but are temporal rift rewinds reset every week? or
yes rewinds reset 👍
Thank you!
Rift reset now same as weekly reset huh
I'm not sure that I've ever seen you say a correct thing rigged
he's built different
Wait is this wrong? I actually wasn't trolling
Rift reset is in 8 hours is it not
Because season is 90 days and it says 83d left
weekly reset is tomorrow
This why I have like 40 accounts ch 20+
Damn how did you keep feeling the desire to play the early game over and over that much
he wanted the perfect start so wasted a month of his time
Lack of qol stuff like 4x speed and auto bounty board is just so bad after you get used to it lol
based gambling addict
i completely forgot about no auto bb dispatch until i logged into an alt for them shem site thing. i was like 'let me just do dailies, see if i can get some points to spike a shem statue' and the lack of auto dispatch was so awful i immediately gave up
500 baits incoming 
same here
same
which wokes are best for rift?
Shitmira
where does she work best?
alright cool
bel
Mae good once you get stab beacons and aren't hemorrhaging from her killing allies

maybe someone has a guide
maybe
i don't have a guide
:/
guide: get woke and celepo from beckons and put them in with the good 4f
Trash
salaki is good actually
i love salami
Can anybody help me with 3 teams out of this?
Ok autobattle is def skipping beckoning places in favour of flora dew and blessed realm... So it's useless still
no it doesnt?
I literally just watched it skip the beckoning place
really? damn thats bad then, i guess thats the reason i aint seeing any beckoning places
yeah means you have to still manual or watch it closely ... on 6x I'm too slow to catch it in time lol
If it happens to pick the beckoning place, it will stop. But it prioritizes flora dew and blessed realm over beckoning place. So it technically is working as intended.
is there a number of beckoning places you can get per run?
well, it completely ruins the point of the function
it should always stop whenever you have a choice of a beckoning place
It should stop whenever it sees a beckoning place and another POI, dew/blessed
i don't mind it's behaviour otherwise. It'd be nice to let it pick harder stages so you can get seal refreshes
but the big thing is beckoning places cause farming 200+ stages without it is fucking awful
I think you can only get 4 special stages in every 20 stage segment, so yes
i saw like 1 beckoning every twenty floors
well there's 4 types of special stages so that makes sense then
so i should always run from the lowest floor possible to get many of thse?
yeah
it takes so long lol
thane
Can't you manipulate your beckons to have 9f?
i dont really know
Need 3 9f in your top 5 combat rating heroes. Works even if you equip mythic furnitures that isn't theirs.
too bad i only got two heroes with 9f 😄
Read my comment properly. You can equip mythics that isn't theirs to create a 9f hero
Yes that'll count for a 9f hero

did yumi help you, Riku? Got past the stage?
Also, image for future use here:

Crofty lend me theirs earlier. They did offer it to me though.
did it work? 
In the end it didn't help though, either too low rc level or to weak of a rem 
sad 
The formation I'm copying needed an e60
Well i got to 140 again this week but i had to go all the way back to f1 cause i forgot to make a save
But now you have a save, so all is well 
i hope i actually saved it and didn't just rewind to f1

I also forgot to save, but should be fine since hopefully I won't need to restart.


My beckons aren't e60 yet so i know i will restart
I don't think I'll have enough e60 this season, so that's out of consideration for me 
Hopefully next rift season
I guess merlin?
Yep
9f, cheers
yea thanks for the help didnt know
are there any awakened safiya teams for rift?
probably just with rem
then split rem off that team
then the other team doesnt win 
the struggles lol i know that feeling
then thats your rem team
Who
Aathalia makes her own team, luci makes bert team strong.
Though mostly not needed, bert team always strong.
watha without e60 is mid af. luci without e60 is also not great bc the e60 is what protects bert
True, watha still strong though just not 1v5 strong. Will need another carry alongside her.
nope, they stay as is
no
Whats the prio upgrades in temporal beacon btw
Roughly smth like
- Everything on Trait until lvl30
- 1 on LD & Noble
- Trait to lvl 50
- Noble to 7, LD to 2
- Everything else on trait

Tyty
I thought it was 3 on ld
3 works too, personally don't find battles to last that long so usually 2 is enough
I see, I'll definitely need it this season though cause of daemia and ashem beckons 
Could probably grab stuff like LD 2 & Noble 2 slightly earlier too
But it doesn't really matter when you've got plenty of time to stack up ess before season end
Guys, what 3 teams can I make for TR?
Oh, forget the 2nd pic, I forgot only E+ and more can do it
Probably pray for beckons, or just wait when rift is closing to end like 2-3 weeks before it ends. That way you'll have more trait enhancers, and possibly more units built.
That ashem will be built by then.
Which are the best temporal traits to get? Got about 16k space time essence
Any of these worth upgrading?
I think bob also covered spenders beacons on his pinned guide here.
Oh ok i will check
Nothing really changed from the previous season apart from qol changes so it should still be fine.
And from here what is prio? T4 chests or baits? Im low on both
TG > sg > baits for me, you'll probably want more baits though. Also those sgs at the most bottom is probably not worth.
So no t4? Got maybe only weapons upgraded to t4 on abelinda and liberta, nothing else
T4 definitely not worth, better to get those on guild store as guild coins are abundant. Also you get lots of t4s from just climbing rift.
Oh ok
is there a guide on team comps? also would like to know in what floors u get the hero choices
and if im auto is there any way to stop at them?
cuz it always keeps going and i miss them XD
imagine not reading patch notes 
I don’t have to imagine 
yeah no., too much sht i dont understand half of it, srry but isnt discord server supposed to be "helpfull" like... dude come on, hard to answer a question?
Haven't tried auto yet, but joux said it doesn't pick beckoning place when there's a flora stage for it to pick.
yeah, support says they will optimize it in a future patch so hopefully it gets fixed
I hate when it gives flora and beckoning as a choice
Same
any time you're auto battling you'll want the beckons at least
as for "read the pins" this is 5 months old
Imagine skipping on flora for beckons only to get shitters 
still works?
yes
Nothing really changed on rift except qol changes
the teams work, but there's more newer teams using newer heros
I guess new boss also
rift doesnt, heroes does, and in 5 months there's been like 10 new heroes XD
Yeah for teams comps it's different.
Unless they changed things in a non-obvious way, it’s objectively easier this time because of new hero releases and just our accounts are a little older than last time
Naroko luci on stage 250+ 
nah, you just have to take those teams and adapt them to new heros, or make your own
Ok but you can use your brain to substitute whatever new heroes you have into the old teams if you think that’s better because of power creep
those teams could take you to 300 before, so certainly can now with better heros subbed in
Like if you have a fully built Naroko, obviously use her somewhere
Also Jerome on abel team is lit.
my brain doesnt work for team comps, never has idfkw XD
Use the team comps from the sticky and just sub in OP heroes you have that aren’t on it
i would need to see a pre made team comp and use it 300 times before i understand why it works
I can imagine what abel will do once she gets the axe with jerome in the team.
you will really struggle with rift then cause on the top floors you have to understand each teams weaknesses and match fights appropriately
this is a good example, i see jerome in high regard and i dont understand the dude XD
this is why i just leave rift when i no longer win


hence why i ask for help ¯_(ツ)_/¯
we can't play the game for you
ofc not, but u do have pre made great comps i can use
from: kymondidnothingwrong in: temporal-rift has:image
that will only get you so far ^
search this and find kaia comps
Ok which of the newer heroes do you have built? 
"u cant beat x team without maxed out x hero" i dont have said hero but i know for sure there is a way around it, this is why i ask for help
well that depends from where u consider "newer"

Newer than this
this fcking bot come on
i thought they removed the cap
and what were your teams last time? Just vaguely like Abel or alna Rem or dimensionals
Palmer can go just about anywhere but he’s mostly good in Abel or alna Rem or overheal
Ivan is the same where he’s good anywhere
i do have every dim build up, my awk max are asolise atalane, abel is almost done just need 2 more copies so i can e60 her
okey jerome is a busted buffer got it XD
1st floor, is that normal? XD
i have twins and yen maxed out my self, so between the wilder and princess, who do i pick?
probably Oku? I don't see Peggy used much anywhere
You can put Naroko on a team with Asolise and Nevanthi and any other summoners or tanky bois you have like Mishka or Canisa/Ruke
Abel goes with Rowan and palmer and Jerome and usually another support, could be Ivan or raine or ezizh or haelus etc
Atalene I’m not sure what teams she’s good on in rift nowadays but you could probably use her on a Gb or dimensional team.
If you have alna and Rem, that’s a really strong frontline and there’s lots of backline combinations that work with them.
I’m not sure about Crassio since you don’t have Abrutus, but maybe he could work in the Asolise Naroko team? Not sure. Tamrus is kind of hit/miss since his grouping and buffing are good but he is hard to keep alive.
Edwin would be good as a frontline for Asolise or on a Gb team or maybe even on a dimensional team. His shields are good
i do have abrutus but just L
my raku is e30, the rest are better than my own
Probably Trishae but I’ve never gotten her in rift
when does the axe shows up???
Last season it was when 4 teams, so 160.
Top 5 by combat rating. Go to your box and sort it by combat rating to see your top 5
I’m sorry
guys, anything shorter than this or newer? https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/18es-wVI6NS30O8RIyP_Ujep_s5OJkG80watnE6v8sYM/edit?pli=1#gid=1424667986
Post box sorted by combat rating
What should I choose here
regardless of who you choose here you are going to want to restart from floor 1 later in the season for better beckons
did you save a floor 1 memory? check pins for instructions if not
Yes have a save already
Probably emilia, her investment there is her min so she'll do you good. wathane sp is pretty good but he'll probably just be dead weight with those low investments.
Could also consider twins if you're struggling against boss I guess.
Thanks!
whats a liberta team?

ummm anything without the lucilla and shem...
i dont have everything built
he's a little vulnerable without lucilla so try to protect him with other heroes that gives defensive buffs
he fits well into heal teams like nev asol bert backline
you're a 2022 player so its hard for me to guess what you have
i can send box if it helps?
tbh i dont think im in the mood to go that far 💀
stick him with healers behind tanky frontliners
kk ty for the teams c:
Im wormin
I'm waiting for a copy

Unless you awaken at least 1 hero from your team you probably not gonna pass him without trait lvls
Remove all the gears of mishka, grez and rem. If it works you should see the trial ashemira turn to si30 9f once you exit and enter your box. If it does, then you'll have 309f beckons.
Which is the best to recruit? I assume it’s one of the wilders.
trish prob
trish 100%
Ok, which character should she replace? I think replacing her with Oden might be good or Emilia cause her freeze doesn’t work on higher floors I heard. Or should she be used in a 4th team?
Well seeing how oden is pretty small, Trish should be a good replacement for him for now
Ty
Gear doesn't matter for rift.
Yes keep the gears off until you finish playing the whole rift run. If you put it back on again, it'll return back to your previous beckons.

much better loot, always go harder
u can just use mercs to wipe through it like it's nothing
He’s talking about trift not lab
occasionally
u wanna avoid specific enemies, like Satrana, Isabella, Morrow etc
they're in bobs pinned guide I think
so u just go for the least bad enemies
magnifying glass
imagine not just putting on auto battle for trift and not worrying
fr. who ever manually goes thru trift are bad at the game 
Me to
Mae or athalia
mae is more important in high rift when you get to floors where clearing in one shot is not longer possible and you are playing attrition style trading stab for damage
aath is probably better on any floors below that?
so depends how far you are pushing, for 300 floors I'd say aath?
man, I wish I would get a Mae option from Beckons
Man, I wish I would get beckons
post-300 gets dicey without Mae team
Went 80 floors without a beckon on my alt, gonna be a long season
So mae is better for high floors... and aath is for lower floors... and i don't have any trouble for pacing through 220 floors 
So mae is my choice
What's mae teams for rift 
Can someone help me with a formation to this one? Those are the heroes I have and the stages I'm in
7 resets a week go run ur luck
should i auto battle
that is a question you must ask yourself
yes
guysssss please help me. I am noob, that‘s why I don‘t have more Aw Heroes than showed. How can I improve my comps?
You can make a Belinda team without alna, then make an alna + rem team with daemia and at least one healer backline.
Then you can make a dimensional team with Emilia and use the same asol and Abrutus teams, maybe sub cruke into Asol or Abrutus teams
will try it oout
what are the lineups for the rift floors 340+?
Mae team, that's all I know
better suggestions in #treasure-scramble likely
yeah i guess the right channel would help 😂
Does auto stop at beckoning now?
yes
So I don't have to stare at the screen for 100 floors only to cancel auto right as it selects rigby?
2 more days 
Unless the beckoning place comes beside flora dew or blessed realm, thenit will skip the beckoning place and keep going
Ok ty

Is collecting from the fountain of time the only way to upgrade the armillary?

I'm stuck at 9, so I wasn't sure if there were other ways. Does progressing into the rift earn additional xp per day?
nope
yeah who can leak their guilds competitive comps
lol last season I was posting my comps up through floor 400
Kaia pls do my trift up to t500 ty
I wanna say 38. Should be on the leaderboard from the last season.

I feel like I should have gotten a participation award frame for clearing to 302

this is lilith so maybe they will add one but it will cost $800
Where does 4-teams start?
161 I think...?
Who should I take ?
Jerome
jerome best, but if you have your own jerome then frampton is a solid pick too
I had asked last night if leveling up the armillary was something you could speed up and the answer I got was no - so does that mean that (assuming you don't miss any of the xp for it), everyone's level is the same?
Yes
Is that done to restrict how much progress people can make in the short term?
But if you pay money the total amount of essence will change largely
Nope, if you collect it every day you can rush it from 1 to 300
So even though it says it'll accumulate for 7 days, (currently), you still need to collect daily? I just now hit level 10 and it was frustrating because my Trait enhancer was maxed at 15
I do daily cz I always forget to collect
Fair. Yeah, I think how long it accumulates if you're afk depends on your level, so it is likely less than 7 days earlier on.
Collected today and lv10 armilla, and hitted LV 19 on trait enchanted
Well, it sounds like I'm at least not behind 😄 Yeah, I just tipped over to level 10 about 30 minutes ago and I'd already collected once a couple of hours prior.
If I'm not really interested in competition and just want to get the prizes, does it matter too much if I just do Auto Battling? That's what I've always done because I just don't want to have to babysit it so much 😄
depends on the state of your account. if you're a whale you can autobattle all the way to 300 without a sweat. Otherwise, the top floors can be quite hard and need some good team comps + matching certain comps against certain enemies to cover weaknesses
I'm not a whale but not FTP, either. I've been using the spreadsheet and can build 3 teams pretty easily at least based on Dims, ASolice, ABelinda and I also have ABrutus I can pull from... but I don't have most of the newer Awakened priority heroes.
well you need 5 teams at the end
Sure, but auto battling can get you most of the way there, I assume? Then change the strategy towards the end?
again depends entirely on the state of your account and the teams you build, the pets you have, your tree, etc
better that is = further you can coast on auto
just do ur best
The biggest downside with auto battling is it always messes up the heros you recruit
Apparently no longer. It stops auto battling when you get those floors now.
Unless it comes with a flora dew or blessed realm, then it skips the beckoning place altogether.. otherwise will stop tho
Well it's halfway good then
mortas
Kk ty
You can probably adjust your box to atleast have 9f beckons.
I've noticed that auto battle will pick Vexing over Floras Dew when the Twins let you chose the next room. Unless im missing something thats really bad?
Does Shemira’s blue hp count as the final hp for calculating stability loss?
I'm pretty sure it does, though I can't properly tell cause I still take a lot of stab loss cause the fights take a while with my ashem team.
this feels like such a dud pick. who do i go for? (not ainz; if i needed ainz i would just use mine)
Ezio prob actually. Runs pretty nice with dims

i dont think m+ aathal works im rift

Howso?
Beckoning hero investment is based off of your 5 highest cmbr heroes, much like trial heroes
Adjust your heroes to make sure all 5 highest cmbr heroes have 9f, use artifact to manipulate cmbr if needed
For 9f, you just need 3 heroes in your 5 highest cmbr and it'll also work even if it's not their own mythic furniture. So put random mythic furniture to make 9f on to the 3 of your 5 highest cmbr rating heroes, then you'll have 9f beckons.

Oku is kinda OP in rift
ty :)
what’s the method for better beckoning heroes in rift?
My teams for f180
My teams for f180
Yeah her damage when she ults is huge and the defense is great obviously
She also just keeps everybody alive form random 1shots
She is so tanky tho. So stability lost is like non existance
I haven't lost any stability with this team
yeah get luckier
put all your furniture on your top 5 heroes to get 9/9 idk what else
F2P Btw

Who would be the best option from here?
haelus most prob. y not e60 thou JT?
Nope
hmp. kinda hard decision now. cause i think haelus needs that e60. nev on the other had 30930 seems good
twice as many as me gg
My ashem trial was at 50 engrave so I guess I'm getting close to having them be e60?
oh wow very close
Don't really get how it's that close though 
i have no clue how it decides between e30-e60
but u gotta pick now so not much to do. prob nev then ig
do u need 5 e60?
I'm actually not sure how they work everything out, cos I got 9f rift mercs/trials and in my top 5 cmbr I have 3 9f, 1 6f, 1 3f
There you go
@low heath pasting a comment of mine from elsewhere for your thoughts 
How much do we think enemy defense plays a role in high rift? I know Abel continues to do overwhelming dps even at 400+ (compared to everyone else).
Is that because half her dps ignores enemy defense?
I'm wondering if we should be thinking about massively emphasizing life loss/other mechanics that ignore defense in our team building later on.I know people mentioned this stuff before. Maybe we should come up with a list of all such damage sources and try to make teams based around every team's dps being exclusively defense ignoring?
Bob does have a list of health-loss in his mega doc, I've got one myself too (mostly copied from his but I wanted to be able to sort it)
Mind sharing your comp please
Perfect, thanks.
A lot of the sources you won't readily think of are from heroes not worth using anyway 
I'm wondering if they are actually. Satrana's 1.5% max hp per second appears to be uncapped? That's way more dps than any other single hero except Abel is doing in high rift.
Would just be a matter of keeping her alive 
Admittedly, I don't know anything about high trift but I'd imagine the dmg dealt isn't that different to something like KT at a deficit.
On some of the harder floors above 400 I would have to fight the same enemy comp 20 times getting fully wiped each time just to kill one enemy (and then usually can win fairly quickly after that).
So 1.5% max hp per second is spectacular, lol.
Can someone explain why I'm stuck in a eternal battle with this obese alcoholic
Skill issue
cos he heals himself duh, u just need to outdamage him or use anti heal
Ah so I'm not passing this
Wait for more trait enhancer and build better heroes
Can you actually keep her alive long enough? I'd imagine some krakens have a built Satrana but not many 
That's the question. I have ideas, we'll see if they work and/or whether Satrana's skill has a hidden cap.
Don't we all fight with alcoholism at some point in our life?
Lmao I know I did 😅
So i just managed to get to floor 80 on temporal, what teams u recommend and can i use them as elite/elite+?
Ashem doesn’t have health loss damage per se, but if enemies have very high defense, her ghosts only inherit 30% of that and I believe the transferred damage is probably true damage
And the -70% def from SI too
kaia sitting in the dark hunched over their phone spamming resets from f160 hunting for a satrana beckon
I can see that
Do you have a hidden camera on me 
What do y'all do with excess potions?
what are potions
Or essence
Ok
Probably Simona
^^^
That's what I was thinking too
AShem to go with her
I had got aLyca in one of those, now I need to figure out teams with what I have

keep in mind, after her first ult, all of her dps ignores def
I can't test an actual value for def since I wouldn't be able to isolate if the enemy is reducing dmg from cdr/mr/def or any combination of the three. hp/atk are possible, but not def
health loss is mostly balanced around the fact that its multipliers tend to be on the lower side relative to skills. you'll notice in campaign that on the rare cases we use normal atha, she barely tickles their hp bar
also I don't think there are that many units that ignore all def, excluding health loss skills for the reasons above
it's capped, is in the guide. only deals 30% atk/s (at e30, raises to 45% atk/s). as I said, health loss very often is balanced around much lower multipliers (except for like, Ezio Daimon Ainz)
ah bummer. where do you find that kind of information?
Bob OP 
its very funny to me how enduring this line has been in ways that were never intended by the writers/actor

I'm trying to figure out 4 good teams for most of TRift since I was struggling last season. I think I have the 3 team portion figured out but not sure who the leftovers should be
Alna ABel Palmer + Rosa/Rowan/Raine/Jerome
Albedo JoA Rem Emilia + anyone really
Mishka ASwol Nevi Scarlett + Tamurus or Astar.
Im guessing 4 should be Graveborn but Grez dies really quick against everyone it seems
the "leftovers" should be strong beckonings
no way around that
Gotcha, thanks 🙏. Might need to restart from floor 1 then since I exited and hadn't got any good mercs
ye thats the easiest way, takes time tho
Only good thing about it being like 3 months long 😅
You can free up alna from abel team and instead use ivan with her. Also rem from dims and use bert as carry in dims. Then your 4th team can be alna rem + supporting units
I'll try that for sure.
trift very difficult to make teams for
especially optimal boss comp to being weaker players over 400
best solution is to join top guild as they already have foundational teams and build from there when new heroes released
Best solution is chill at 300
Does beckon heroes get upgraded when you get more SI/furns/engravings ?
Like while sitting in your heroes bag
sadly no 

🫂
How to kill rigby on floor 30
Best going with veithael right ?
yeah
hmm vei without si30 kinda sus
4* 209e60 beckons kinda wild
yeah haha thats true
I guess it could be +29
yeah manipulating your beckons is important
+30 is the most annoying to get, all top 5 need it but only 3 for furn, and cmbr irrelevant for engraving
can solve the problem forever by getting si40 on someone but that's for whales
More like kraken's 
If u had 1050 Reds lying around you could solve the problem by just getting normal si30s
not getting 9f?
no I thought I'd just leave her at 8f forever
i'm just not red carding that lol, it'll come when it comes
she's gone on and off the wl a few times as the lowest prio on there
You'll pull double Emi furn, watch 
it's fine she has good dupe
Which should I pick?
mortas
Does the first emoti stands for dumb ? 
It stands for I can auto tower until 300 and so I can play with whatever beckon hero I want
What do you think?
Thanks

From what stage do I have to reset from lv1 for mercenaries 309?
Oh, after floor 100
beckons are based on your hero box
if your hero box is the same then the beckon invests will be the same, whether you're on f1 or f413
yeah
Do I buy a. Brutus or all the time/star gazing tickets from the shop? Opinions
TE SG
^^
Can someone give me a tldr on what to do on this gamemode? I am so overwhelmed
pins cover it mostly

Anyone have tips? Brutus comp a strugling any tips to boost him?
Give him merlin 
Hey guys, how to you get more than 7 battle attempts and the rewind chances in temporal? Is it 7 per day resetting?
It resets every week

Ty!
do you guys have any teams that seem to be working well with athane? got to recruit him but have never actually used him before lol
yes. works well with tam/hae/silas/mulan backline and vei/anasta front line
not as good team as other aw but
ohh okay sweet, ty!

Mulan should be pos4, but also it's just a weaker comp in general so you need to pick the matchups properly
Brutus should have emilia as it's Brutus dims, not Mulan maulers 
Same thing with scarlet and emi in their teams 
I'm surprised palmer is in the right spot
Hello , i beat 300 with these teams last time. Any suggestions where i could put in my new aShemira?
What was ur weakest team? Do u remember which had the most issue. Ashem is very flexible so just put her in that team
I'd say it was aBaden team.
Will give it a go.

Ashem and Abaden in a team is really good. She makes Abaden practically immortal as her delay death gives enough time for him to ult. Their sp is pretty flexible too and they don't rely on it to be usable.
Noted.
should i follow teams in pins or just push with whatever i have leveled?
cuz some of the dudes in pins are just elite+
Depends on the character
basically the stats from ascending the hero don’t matter in this mode but the skill upgrades might
so e heroes can work really well if their base skills are good
but some heroes rely heavily on a certain upgrade and wouldn’t work so well at e
can u suggest 3 teams that might work or should i show box?
Do you have Rem/Emilia
yes
and which wokes do you have built
ok yeah can you show box
any suggestions?
I was afk for a bit but I’m looking at it now
not much u can do, just wait til u get stronger later in the rift season. even at the end of the season you'll be relying on good beckons to progress in 3+ teams. currently your beckons will still be too small to be extremely impactful. just wait, you'll get a lot stronger between now and the end of the season if you keep playing consistently
Something like this
But also what potato said, you’ll have more options later on
what's the 2nd hero of formation 9?
Maybe swap Palmer and Desira
thoran
oh sorry that’s thoran with Halloween skin
aight, ye i understand waiting til later in the rift but i wanted some loot that maybe helped me a bit atm
since i lose nothing by trying now
but what did u mean my beckons are too small?
The upgrades that the mercenary heroes you get from the beckoning place have are based on your box, like the trial heroes
but they’re locked in when you get them from the beckoning place.
So the mercenaries you get a month from now on those floors will have better SI/furniture etc than rue ones you get now, because your box will be stronger
also, since i fused daimon with rem and emi with oden, doesn't that mean i can't use them in other formations aswell?
oh yeah that’s a good point. What’s the requirement to unlock the first dimensional key?
what's a dimensional key 👀
it doesn’t show the requirement anymore after you’ve unlocked it
ok i found it
Library -> Field of Stars -> Obsiornis -> the first star in the constellation on the right
oh yeah that’s a while off lol
uhh yeah it’s gonna be tough
You could make a team with either Emilia or oden as the damage dealer and a team with Rem as the damage dealer
and a team with shemira/Ivan
and fill in the rest with as many healers and other supports as you can
@tawny vessel
Pretty janky but maybe this
aight, thank mate, i'll try the janky comps
whats best option here?
astar or raine depending on what u have
⭐
ok
anyone know what this masters musings shit is
ignore
Something from old rift
So i just unlocked the temepral rift, any teams i can build with these for it?
wait no im dumb, wront area lmao
first beckon
nice!
Hi guys ! I'd need help with composing a 4th team with those heroes (missclicked raku...), could someone advise me ?
Would Lucretia/Grez/Oden/Nevanthi/Silas work ?
lucy isnt great for rift unfortunately
You shouldn't really have a problem with creating a 4th team at your point in the game. You might be overdoing your 1-3 team with too much good heroes 
Also merlin and mulan having no 9f really hurts their usability 
this work any good?
got lib?
303e60
hard
I am 
awathalia prob for carrying u
it is**
aight


Would someone kindly help me get some teams for rift 
I can't really make any of the teams in the pins as I don't have them ascended/have them in general
Thoran is linked to LDV, kren is linked to joan and bedo is linked to skriath
Also have these
youre prob better off just collecting the materials everyday and coming back to it later prob like in another month? i think ud have better roster and higher trait lvl by then. u should also try to refresh for getting better beckons. for now if u rly want to push a bit. could try running an abel team and see hor far u get
Ainz meta??
Desira
Wich one?
Uh geralt maybe . 
Tyy 
Here? :/
Athane
Tyy

WRONG
Which one do you recommend to choose?
do u have mulan cruke or mae?
No, none of them
Cruke probably
yeah cruke prob
Thanks!

I have 2 red cards to use on Mulan or Merlin to get any of them to 9, who should I choose?
Mulan
Thane with no si30 or e60 or 9f 
better than nothing
(didnt notice the si and furn lol)


Wonder if I'm gonna have to max trift sgs for lavatory
given ur getting tg and u also getting all sg would imply ur 
I might skip the tgs
I have 320
I'm set up for the next woke already
not if its woke raine next patch 

hopefully not
It's not
I feel like I'm taking crazy pills bc that Dolly text didn't scream Raine to me like at all
idk anything about raine so
i feel likes its just ref 4f ngl. we got new system next and hypo go released...itll be way too much
It sounds like Wilder to me tbh
He’s going alr lol
😆 🤣
i'll send lewds

This team is the one doing the worst (losing the most stability) is there a better team comp I can make with what I have? The gear they have is the meteor one.
replace torres and oden with olga and mottas maybe
torres is not that good in rift cause he jumped out first and die easily
I think I’m still having issues or it might be slightly better.
Next, who should I recruit here?
probably simona
agree
simona 
I tried this, it worked pretty well.


And then next floor it didn’t. I’m just going to give my whole inventory and see if people think I should make some replacements.
Which?
all useless
yeah...
any of these useful in rift?
hm. super high lvls use thoran. but not great early on, good against boss. edwin could work with ashem?
second one, but not that good enough
early thoran isnt useless
Always a good hero for the boss
oh right. forgot about boss. shouldve specified
where do you use thoran outside that boss btw

nowhere. thats y first thought was useless 

what counts as early?
i call pre300 early. the only use for thoran pretty much is for boss for the entirity of rift
hmm, i never have problems with the boss so i guess i'll just grab edwin

I need help with a 4th team, I got aBaden and aLyca from beckoning palace
Ulmus, lorsan, kaz, or canisa and ruke (no idea what they do) for beckoning ?
cruke is probably the best
Thanks
who can replace anasta in her team? pretty sure that team stinks cause of her lol, name anyone vut awakened shemira thane safiya everyone else fair game
Try swapping vei and anasta see if it does the trick
Ill try thanks

That's the only way
All are bad
I think wukong is the play there
Wrong
gorvowoooooooooooo
🫣🫣
Geralt
What's the pick here?
abrut/joa


