temporal-rift

[distant sequoia]

Ok wtf happened to trift

[hoary stream]

Bad things

[soft axle]

they killed our baby

[stable bough]

I didn’t know this was a communist server

[soft axle]

you sure don't pay attention to anything

[stable bough]

Well I don’t like communist

This is a theocracy now

We worship abelinda here

[soft axle]

you can have both

communist with theocratic central government

why not

[stable bough]

[soft axle]

you know marxism is not the only form of communism right?

[muted sequoia]

https://tenor.com/view/worship-gif-11349941

[soft axle]

there's even a theory of christian communism

[stable bough]

Tf

Ok I guess we’re both now

[soft axle]

whatever lightbearer church is called

[muted sequoia]

technically christianity is communism. share with thy brother aka communism

[soft axle]

that's our communism now

[merry hatch]

People shit on communism but they'll be calling for it in 20-30 years when robots have our jobs XD

[atomic imp]

didn’t the early church members literally live in communes for a while

anyway no rift yet

[livid fog]

Yeah, when they were outcast by the state. Later they were incorporated by the state and became some of the biggest property owners

[tribal oasis]

What the fucks happening in here

Hey anyone want to come live on my gay communist compound

I have cornbread

And the lightbearers are theocratic feudalism

[soft axle]

i like gay communism and cornbread, I'm in

[tribal oasis]

[stable bough]

You get powdery cornbread

[tribal oasis]

Slander and lies I make good homemade Texas cornbread

[soft axle]

nah if there's one thing gay communists know, it's how to make a banger cornbread

in a cast iron pan I hope

ive never been to texas

[tribal oasis]

I miss the food so much

🥹

[stable bough]

I will put you in a cast iron pan

[timid shuttle]

Get a good seer

[ocean wind]

Sear*

[timid shuttle]

Oopsie daisies

[stable bough]

https://tenor.com/view/steak-gif-24533835

[unique hollow]

good morning everyone and i just wanted to say

i hate the rift changes

[green gate]

+1

[ocean wind]

+2

[inner fulcrum]

+1

[merry depot]

+4

[woeful fjord]

+ratio

[strange whale]

*5

[brittle wraith]

/2

[hoary stream]

^6

[woeful fjord]

(x)!

[woeful fjord]

++

[woeful fjord]

Wtf are you doing here Mr woffles 😂

[unique hollow]

well played, (x)!

[livid fog]

• i * i

• e ^ (i * pi)

[woeful fjord]

[nocturne mulch]

👀

[tribal oasis]

Is this math

[scenic agate]

Less rewards and rat race for rankings? What's not to like

[cosmic totem]

Remove all the rewards, but give a shiny badge instead. People will pay to play.

[stable depot]

frame

i will pay for frame

[merry depot]

Hn(p(i),lambda(i))
Destroys x!

[strange whale]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-doggo-cute-math-formulas-gif-17580986

[full rampart]

new temporal rift is bad ?

[atomic imp]

We haven’t even tried it yet. But it looks like they tried to make it less time consuming and also give a lot less rewards

disappointing for people who were looking forward to getting as many rewards as last time, but it seems like the player base as a whole kind of hated the way it was, so they changed it

[full rampart]

👍

[stable depot]

Hey, is it just a vocal minority that are hating on this? I really hope not...

[atomic imp]

hating on the change or hated it before? My guess is that their internal data showed that a lot of players were just ignoring the mode altogether.

I actually really liked how it was last time, so I’m one of the disappointed ones.

[unique hollow]

if they wanted to change im all for it

but having 300 floors and have that minuscule amount of rewards

with a leaderboard based on who gets max floor first

if this wasn't real, would think it was a joke

[stable depot]

Yeah I think you're right. I checked my friends list and a lot of people barely got to 300 (barring my guildmates).

Data unfortunately shows no engagement, but it really screws the people that participate....

[unique hollow]

it needed improvements, many people wanted to do away with class beacons, sure do it

but not like this

[stable depot]

I'm sure internal data will show even more non-participation

[unique hollow]

yea, now you will have a piss game mode without any incentive.

[stable depot]

People don't realize what they missed out on

And those non-participants will STILL be non-participants

[unique hollow]

reddit was mad cause they couldn't get floor 600 without playing the game

[stable depot]

reddit is such a dumb metric

[unique hollow]

instead of trying to get rewards, they wanted nobody else to have them

[stable depot]

omg

thats the shittiest justification....

[unique hollow]

where did lilith even get feedback to make this change

nothing adds up

[stable depot]

I feel like my optimism waned when I saw the temporal feedback feature came online without changes...

The BEST rewards were in the lower floors imo...

People REALLY slept on emblems and stones huh

The most relevant rewards for new/progressing players....

[unique hollow]

i understand part of the struggle, i have guild mates that just login once a day, rift was the least of their problems

but some atleast they auto'd by the end and try to get something out of it

minimal built account can get floor 300

there was no lack of guides either

for those that did, sharing teams and whatnot was common

thats why for those that participated, they could get higher and higher floors

obviously there was also nerfs and beacon changes

which is good

[unique hollow]

and so many of them

its beta, likely to have some changes, atleast the next iteration

im sad

[stable depot]

[blissful dagger]

Sounds good, make it less time consuming while keeping the rewards same or even increasing the rewards

[livid pollen]

They probably never intended on so many of us progressing so far so they eliminated the rewards. Low spenders cant have shit

[balmy pecan]

This is my theory as well. They thought it was gonna be too hard and tedious for non-whales to reach 800

[balmy pecan]

The new rewards are shit for everyone. Even people who could only do 200-300 floors of the old trift made out better than they will in the new system.

[stable depot]

That's what I said

[balmy pecan]

Yeah I am agreeing

[stable depot]

Ah

[balmy pecan]

I have seen so many ppl saying "well I couldn't get past floor 400 before so I like the change since I won't miss rewards"

Which is just a bad take

People really did not think about trift long term... incredible rewards that are part of a static difficulty mode is always gonna be good.

Unlike CR/TS that require constant attention to keep up with rising difficulty, trift is something you can improve every season and eventually max rewards. It is the same shit we saw with MV on release when it was "too hard"

But I agree the gameplay was annoying af. The new stamina and badge system actually seems decent I just wish they applied it to the old version.

[stable depot]

Floor 300 was the sweet spot

Most f2p could get to it on mage/supp/fort ezpz even if it was a last day type of thing

Even new players got to 150 (with guidance)

[soft axle]

Shit my new acc got to 300 starting halfway through a season

[stable depot]

Just a sad change overall

Bet most people won't realize the significance of the loss

[balmy pecan]

Problem is ppl who couldn't finish only saw the rewards they were missing so did not like it.

And ppl who did get to 800 almost certainly struggled to get there so probably also hated it. I got to 700 and hated every second of the 600+ push.

[stable depot]

Rewards made it worth it

Honestly if they bring back emblems and stones, I would be pacified

[balmy pecan]

I wouldn't. Trift was a significant portion of my cores income

E60 is gonna be a nightmare again now

[stable depot]

Oh I forgot about cores....

[soft axle]

I'm dying without cores

Literally

[balmy pecan]

And no more choice chests... can no longer choose what we want

[soft axle]

My body is going into shock

[balmy pecan]

And the bait was not even replaced so we just get 0 bait from it now

[soft axle]

Lilith is so out of touch with reality

[balmy pecan]

Still waiting to see if they r gonna fix this mess

I guess I at least get the aezizh copy that I refuse to timegaze for but after this season that also becomes useless for me

[stable depot]

Are you not pleased with aBrutus sir

Said no one

[balmy pecan]

I have him

[stable depot]

Same

[stable bough]

Any clown who says it doesn’t matter since they couldn’t get 400+ isn’t taking into account that it’s a lot harder in the lower floors now

[stable depot]

10 rewinds is a lot though

Said no one

[livid pollen]

Went from literally enough resources to full build a hero in 3 months to barely enough resources to get a hero to 30 0 e30

[cosmic totem]

How much does Lilith base changes on overall aggregate usage stats, vs weighted feedback (weighted by spend level, or community visibility level - e.g. discord mods or content creators)?

[atomic imp]

They did give us a pretty significant new source of bait with NC, but the drop in core income is pretty huge yeah

[cosmic totem]

I would hope they give reasonably high importance to feedback from the higher spender + more vocal/active user base.

[cosmic totem]

Drop in emblems and gear chests is crippling. Edit: at least for me. Emblems are a huge difference for people who are still mid-game, and T3 reso is a looong journey with TRift being one of the best sources for progress.

[woeful fjord]

I was wondering. If they added infinite retries on the old TR wouldn't it solve the biggest issues? You can auto-play all the time without worrying, which would make it much much less grindy and annoying

[compact shuttle]

Frankly the old rift season even with 200 retries was fine, the only thing Id like of them if they added a 3/5 hero ban selection

But now with what rift gives and how its played out Im not even excited

Since I know for the full duration of 3 months Ill be able to get like 1 e30 and a bit more than 1k cores

But cryddit wanted a change so Im happy they did this, even tho its horrid for me (I cleared 800)

[soft axle]

Yeah a good fix would just be reduce the fucking hellish enemies

Like delete the whole mauler faction for a start

[brittle wraith]

[ruby pilot]

LMAO

[warped moon]

Honestly it would have been fine if they just took the old rift and halved the floor numbers

Keeping difficulty the same (ie f400 would be the same as old f800)

Just cutting down on grind

And F it give 2 badges per floor too then everything’s basically the same

[warped moon]

so this may just be massive stupidity/ignorance about how the system works on my part

but i was always super annoyed by the fact that i would have to fuck my badges up in order to level them

was i just doing something wrong in old rift

like i can choose between going to lv14 of a badge where the effect doesn’t work on that hero or keeping lv13 with worse stats but a useful effect

never ceased to annoy me

so i felt like i would just get to push like 20 floors get a few badge levels then die and reset to get my badges unfucked

[cyan cape]

You can skip choosing a badge after a battle (if that’s what you are talking about)

[warped moon]

yeah but then you don’t get the badge level ups

[merry depot]

Just don’t play rift

Boycott it so that they bring old rift back

It will work I swear

[livid fog]

Yeah, let's go on a temporal strike demanding our divine rights for no reward nerfs

[tribal oasis]

Lmao

They made it less whaley but at the cost of well

Everything

[ocean wind]

Is tamporal ruft easier now?

[candid yacht]

shittier

yes

[noble stump]

https://tenor.com/view/tonystark-gif-20634708

[mental otter]

Temporal rip is clown now 🤡

[ocean wind]

Trumporal roft when?

[stable depot]

[merry depot]

I think it’s time

[ocean wind]

Where?

[worthy walrus]

This mode is dead

Can remove this channel

[unique hollow]

i think they need to fire whoever had the idea of changing trift

[unique hollow]

and also whoever approved this

[merry depot]

Just start saying trumporal roft here from time to time and magic will happen

If said enough it will change the neuronal connections in peoples brain basically brain washing them

[worthy walrus]

lol

[ocean wind]

Trumporal roft

[stable depot]

[proven arrow]

This is all Gabe’s fault

[ocean wind]

He's gonna be happy to hear that

[split latch]

Good news, rift rewards pumped

[ocean wind]

Really?

Where can we see new rewards?

[stable depot]

bro they put stones back

[ocean wind]

Tf

[stable depot]

hello t3 resonance

[ocean wind]

I don't need elite hero stones

Ah

[stable depot]

#717446365587832904 message

so many emblems

[ocean wind]

Is it just me or seems still meh

Too lazy to calc what I can get in 1 season

[stable depot]

its meh

but im low maintenance

i see stones and emblems im hapi

[ocean wind]

Yea, I am glad they put back emblems

[stable depot]

idr if its less than original

[ocean wind]

Save my gold stackk

[stable depot]

but its back at least god bless

[split latch]

Still low but...

[stable depot]

now we need to see how the rewind/stability crap works

[ocean wind]

If they decrease off season time to 1-2 week then I am good

[stable depot]

100%

agree i mean

not 100% they will do it lol

[split latch]

Stuck on floor 1

[stable depot]

[ocean wind]

[stable depot]

just be unstuck

[balmy pecan]

Pre planned change to stifle the outrage. Even these "buffed" rewards are crap.

Cores still suck

[cyan cape]

A better complete look courtesy of Volkin

[atomic imp]

They also upped the leaderboard rewards I think?

[cosmic totem]

Looks like I missed some big changes 😮 where are people seeing these changes? Is this on test server?

I can be satisfied with this.

(Also, that’s what she said.)

[wheat pasture]

What's inside the 4 chests for the post hotfix?

[wheat pasture]

Thank you

[desert scroll]

Rewards are still shite

[wheat pasture]

The amount of core dropped quite abit

[desert scroll]

Climbing stages gonna be more boring unlike back than i really wanna go for 700+

Ppl need to complain more bring bacc the old one much better

[lavish bane]

well this is lame

[wheat pasture]

For the shop currency. Is obtaining 6k easy?

They reset your currency after each season 😂

[lavish bane]

i bet it is easier to reach 240 than 800, i give you that

volkin's test account already reached 81, and it hasn't been a week since the release in the test server

[vapid quest]

[wheat pasture]

I see.. Not sure how I'll fare. I only managed to reached 360 if I'm not wrong last season. But that's on a fresh account. Was hoping to go much higher this season but they changed it 😂

[violet walrus]

Real

700

You climb 700?

Never seen anyone complain about having to do less mundane task

Till i play this game

[inner fulcrum]

rewards are shit I am still sad

if the core amount would be higher it would be ok

also they nerfed gazers and tot cards so stupid

[ocean wind]

F2p can't have anything nice

🥹

[violet walrus]

cus yall keep complaining

find a middle point

less floor to climb or more afking , can never satify anyone anymore

[ocean wind]

It's impossible

No matter what, there will always be someone complaining

[violet walrus]

world we live in

it is what it is

[ocean wind]

Just please the bigger part of the crowd

[violet walrus]

lucky we now have the option to quit if we are unsatisfy

the only thing keeping us around is the copium of a better tomorrow

[ocean wind]

I am only staying for scrumple

[merry depot]

Scrimplek

[unique hollow]

where are my time and sg cards ?

[ocean wind]

In the store

[violet walrus]

At least I left my solise on this discord

[unique hollow]

still less, can you even get all the cards ?

[inner fulcrum]

it is like half gazers and tot income

I would be more satisfied just pushing 400-500 stages in old rift for way better rewards than 300 really hard stages in new mode

[ocean wind]

Thank you for your contribution sir

[ocean wind]

Yea, but can't get awk + all tots I think

[unique hollow]

thats okay

awa is a bait

would be nice if free

but rather have cards

[ocean wind]

1 awk = 40 tots

That's a good price

[unique hollow]

we can also get the SG ?

[ocean wind]

Yes, but SG are not great value imo

Baits/juice

You get quite a bit of SG from CR/TS

[unique hollow]

you maybe

im in a complicated region

i guess cores

3500 for all time cards

get free 6k, but there is some more

2500 + something

[ocean wind]

You get around 10k in total with 3-4% ranking afaik

[unique hollow]

or did they update this ?

[unique hollow]

that much ?

i thought it was around 8k

[ocean wind]

They upped the coin reward too

[unique hollow]

thats good then

it looks better now

[inner fulcrum]

oh I see swolise

I dont complain anymore

one swolise copy every 2 months sounds alright

[ocean wind]

Every 3 months*

[inner fulcrum]

did they change it again?

[ocean wind]

Season lasts 3 months including break inbetween

[inner fulcrum]

oh..

Thats shit rewards then

[ocean wind]

Trimboral ruft

[inner fulcrum]

burialed rift

more likely

[merry depot]

We need a second hot fix

[ocean wind]

Just give me my Swolise

[gray kayak]

When does it start?^^

[strange whale]

i want old rift back

[green gate]

Tomorrow

[livid pollen]

Im right there with you😂

[fading shoal]

I've restored account and verified everything just to tell you: this trift rework is the WORST thing that happened with the overall game so far! Even with the latest hotfix it is still a bullshit!

Especially after such a great anniversary events and gifts, just a pure, concentrated disappointment.

REVERT THE RIFT!

[lament jolt]

You get so many rewards from leaderboard with this buff now, so none for me I guess
oh wait its probably not compounding anymore it seems nvm

yikes

[merry depot]

Why no Waden Lilith

[unique hollow]

because i have him already obviously

still too expensive

6k

more than 50% of most peoples coins

[merry depot]

It’s a rip off

[merry depot]

Then gib

Transfer Waden to my account

[unique hollow]

[errant ginkgo]

the one thing that really bummed me out actually was when i saw they removed all the t3 armor. you used to get like 12 pieces or something like that, and now theres none at all. i have so many heroes at t2 that i was waiting to upgrade during this event -_-

[eternal mesa]

rift is real?

[soft axle]

Still a huge red core deficit

How tf we supposed to e60 ppl now

[ocean wind]

💳

[soft axle]

This makes me want to spend less

Because rift make me mad I don't want to spend for continuum

[strange whale]

we also lose a lot of t4

[eternal mesa]

lose dn

[strange whale]

in ||ym||

[eternal mesa]

[strange whale]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/441477431501783062/1045453008558903337/unknown-176.png

[ocean wind]

Rekt

[livid pollen]

Any word on if the chinese community is still upset?

Apparently lilith only listens when they complain

[ocean wind]

Either way I don't see them hot fixing again

So this season is pretty much set in stone imo

[unique hollow]

its better than what they were giving

its something

[soft axle]

it's still worse than what it used to be

therefore the riot does not stop

[ocean wind]

[atomic imp]

[white needle]

So whem does rift go live

[split latch]

At reset

[stable depot]

Cores still still bad

[unique hollow]

ready to push for leaderboard

[soft axle]

it'll never be alive again, they killed it

[stable depot]

[unique hollow]

very bad, cores were core

[stable depot]

no i have work on reset

[unique hollow]

but i guess thats why they are giving giga juice and poe

[stable depot]

im screwed on leaderboard

[unique hollow]

as default rewards

[balmy pecan]

This is exactly what they want people to say

[unique hollow]

yea

but what can you do ?

[balmy pecan]

They 100% pre-planned the buff knowing people would rage

[unique hollow]

do you want to boycott ?

people that didn't play rift still wont play it this time

[stable depot]

t4 way down too but i have my t3 and emblems

[soft axle]

make all new heros need e60 then take away the biggest source of red core. big brain

[balmy pecan]

This is what I am most upset about

[unique hollow]

yea, now you are feeling more compelled to 💳 than before

[soft axle]

quite the opposite actually

less compelled to buy for continuum points

[unique hollow]

dont know, i dont spend so

[balmy pecan]

Nope not in the slightest. No way in hell I am gonna buy red cores with the shit they are pulling

[unique hollow]

i guess people were engraving too much for lilith's taste

[balmy pecan]

They probably were

[unique hollow]

really feeling that chumba casino now

thanks for ad

[stable depot]

more shards

wait

[balmy pecan]

I thought lilith was intentionally making engraves more accessible because pets are the powercreep now and we are probably coming up on another one

[stable depot]

the juice look good

[unique hollow]

4500 and 14k poe

[balmy pecan]

But the cores @stable depot

[unique hollow]

600 bait

they are trying to make a trade off here

[lament jolt]

I don't like this trade off

[balmy pecan]

Yeah I get they are trying to make a tradeoff I am just not buying in on it

[lament jolt]

The diamond value isn't even close

[soft axle]

1 elite pet or nearly an e60, good tradeoff /s

[stable depot]

I'm trying to be ignorant

[split latch]

Noble cores

[unique hollow]

cores are irreplaceable

[soft axle]

honestly scrap all reward but give me 3600 red core, only that and I'm happy

[balmy pecan]

[lament jolt]

wait no don't do that either

[split latch]

I need more shards

[stable depot]

Isnt this just defense rewards?

Wouldn't the store augment rewards to offset old rift or am I thinking wrong

[balmy pecan]

They added more shards at least

[stable depot]

Ping me I'm curious and suck at math

[unique hollow]

yea, worst minister of 2023

[soft axle]

raku needs e80

shits' not cheap

[split latch]

What

[balmy pecan]

The store is included in this value calculation @stable depot

[stable depot]

oh

[balmy pecan]

It counts the value of an awakened copy in the 170k

[split latch]

Store is based on leaderboard

[stable depot]

thats kinda

[soft axle]

you get 6k store currency for finishing it

[unique hollow]

it shouldn't be counted here

[soft axle]

up to 2k more from leaderboard

[balmy pecan]

The cores in the store also have piss ass value so idk who will buy them

[stable depot]

here, as in this screenshot yes?

[balmy pecan]

And the time cards are still not up to what we had before

[unique hollow]

can go up to 12.8k the medal total

for leaderboard 0.5

[unique hollow]

yes, thats what i meant

[balmy pecan]

Yeah but most ppl won't even come close to that

[unique hollow]

exactly

[stable depot]

ty

[balmy pecan]

The norm for lilith is pulling shennanigans with their leaderboards so the top 0.5% is really the top 0.000005%

[unique hollow]

and the reason why shop and individual rewards should be taken into account on a different metric

[balmy pecan]

Ur not competing against 100% of players ur only really competing against the top 10%

[unique hollow]

they might as well make rewards based on the number of people that push X floor

it would be more encouraging for everyone else

not sure how leaderboard will be, wait and see

[balmy pecan]

I guess we will see

[unique hollow]

and its every 30 days, no longer every 15

so 2x total

[balmy pecan]

Bruh

[soft axle]

Is the leaderboard global

[lament jolt]

If top 10% isn't easy (which it won't be) then...

[unique hollow]

yea, race the leaderboard look like it will suck

[balmy pecan]

Idk the global leaderboards we have now don't even feel global

They always find away to weed like 90% of players out of the %-based slots

[stable depot]

maybe its region like NC

[balmy pecan]

cough CR

[stable depot]

or is it confirmed global

[balmy pecan]

I think it is gonna be like GH was

[unique hollow]

GH was pretty good

[lament jolt]

I only got like 40 or 30% in grand hunt iirc

[balmy pecan]

For me 4% was where I often fell on GH. It was rly hard to keep in 2%

Im sure I could do it now with framton but GH is dead so

[soft axle]

i had like 20% or something, abel is op

[atomic imp]

Wouldn’t the “you are ahead of X% of players” pop up that came up when you tapped your floor number be a better estimate than Grand Hunt

[zenith knoll]

I can't open my temporal rift 😭

How!? 🙏

[soft axle]

did you read the screen?

cause the answer is right there

[zenith knoll]

But how other players did play that?
Based on the previous messages here, they kind of like able to play temporal rift

[soft axle]

no it's not out yet on live. there's a test server that has it

i think it's on live in the reset 6.5 hours from now

[zenith knoll]

Owww okay!
Thanks 🙏

[merry hatch]

^

I like the changes, everything's settled.

Except the cores. Damn. Bring them back.

They won't though.

Time to whale e60s 😄

[soft axle]

don't do it, that just rewards them for making this shitty change

[merry depot]

GH doesn’t exist anymore?

They killed that aswell wtf

[soft axle]

belinda broke it

[unique hollow]

belinda broke a lot of things ingame

[balmy pecan]

No it does not

[merry depot]

I enjoyed gh it’s a shame…

[vapid quest]

I am not surprised

[merry depot]

[cosmic totem]

Wanted to test drive my built Baelinda in GH… It’s a shame.

[stable depot]

you can test drive on me

[cosmic totem]

[unique hollow]

47minutes for trift

[soft axle]

47 minutes until HELL

[brittle wraith]

RIFT

[cunning carbon]

sooo.. random bullshit and go for the team?

[soft axle]

there's no more class badges right? so we can just build strong teams like in every other mode

kinda hate that, i liked building more unique teams in rift

[unique hollow]

it had a certain pleasure once you figured something strong

[brittle wraith]

solise dim go brr

[atomic imp]

No more beacons?

[unique hollow]

just 1 beacon for everyone

[atomic imp]

oh

lol

[unique hollow]

there is those with dim, and wilder lb ?

mauler lb ?

[soft axle]

they really took all the good parts of rift and got rid of them

[unique hollow]

whatever it was

[atomic imp]

and is it two teams up to the current cap?

Or three?

[unique hollow]

dont know that, but shouldn't be 3 this early

[atomic imp]

Oh and teams don’t carry over energy anymore right?

[unique hollow]

yes

0 energy

[atomic imp]

That’s a big rip for Kren I feel like

[unique hollow]

unless they "fixed" it

solsie might not be very viable unless ascended

[atomic imp]

yeah that kinda fucks two of my teams from last round

but I have Belinda now so I only need to come up with one more I guess

[unique hollow]

will try to run the same belinda i ran last trift

first team will be whane + 4

sonja rowan palmer raine i guess

[atomic imp]

Rowan not with Belinda?

[unique hollow]

seems like there is benefit on keeping your team as healthy as possible so you lose less stability per round

i was considering belinda earlier

but not sure

[stable depot]

good luck friends

its open

[wheat laurel]

WHAT TEAMS DO YOU GUYS RUN ?

[soft axle]

[woeful fjord]

ima just try abrutus dims

[stable depot]

ping me with teams thanks

[soft axle]

dreaf

[unique hollow]

oscar

[woeful fjord]

lol first floor

[soft axle]

you forgot to ping

[unique hollow]

@stable depot

[soft axle]

good job!

[stable depot]

god damnit lmao

[unique hollow]

lost whane and raine on floor 20 boss

[stable depot]

thats a girthy tree sir

[unique hollow]

i juiced it a lot

also got 650 essence for beacons

after clearing floor 20

deaths are alright, just lose stability, win is win

got beacon to lvl5

[inner fulcrum]

what is that new bullshit mode

is there any guide for this

so when you stop you start from floor 1 again?

[gleaming geyser]

for the new sub relics the ranking color wise is green blue purple gold right? and can you leave mid a run to level up the beacon?

[unique hollow]

yes you can leave mid run

[lament jolt]

Imagine doing rift when you could be doing lab instead

[inner fulcrum]

getting a 309e60 olgath is pretty dope

[gleaming geyser]

oh we doing even get the points to upgrade the beacon from the runs anymore

[unique hollow]

did that happen to you ?

[inner fulcrum]

I beat floor 20 and thats my limit

[gleaming geyser]

we just have to get it from time now?

[inner fulcrum]

I exited

if u dont exit you can resume later

[unique hollow]

yes iknow

[inner fulcrum]

so yeah

[gleaming geyser]

how does dying work in the new rift?

[inner fulcrum]

if u exit u start from floor 1 again

[gleaming geyser]

does a dead hero just use more stamina and they stay alive?

[inner fulcrum]

yes

way more stamina

[gleaming geyser]

or does it still die but now you also use stamina

[unique hollow]

you can move on to the next floor if you win, you just lose stability

[gleaming geyser]

yes but what happens to that specific hero

[unique hollow]

it will resurrect

[gleaming geyser]

ic

[inner fulcrum]

I miss old rift already

:c

[gleaming geyser]

and any ideas on the stamina regen rate? stuck on floor 12 so for now ill have to wait for enough to level up beacon a level atleast

[unique hollow]

flora's dew will give you stability back

get a ton of them

[gleaming geyser]

my issue is power not stamina

[fresh haven]

is blessed realm good or skip?

[gleaming geyser]

my team has to fight two grevious realm teams outside its current power level

its not stuck stamina wise

[inner fulcrum]

yeah seems like this rift is gonna be really hard

at least day1

[gleaming geyser]

the only potential upside i see is its forcing you to progress less

so maybe less time spent for the average player in rift

[unique hollow]

floor 41 is 2 teams

[inner fulcrum]

progress less?

if u exited in old rift you would just keep your stage

[gleaming geyser]

between stamina and it taking longer to get strong enough teams to move forward

[unique hollow]

you can press the lower left arrow

[inner fulcrum]

so if u exit at floor 200 and go to floor 200 again it is already 400 floors

[unique hollow]

ah

[dawn yacht]

what team is you peoples running

[unique hollow]

the restart

[gleaming geyser]

i didnt follow what you meant on exiting

[inner fulcrum]

I run scarlet flex

[atomic imp]

lol you can’t swap formations

[gleaming geyser]

if you exit you start at floor 1 again?

[atomic imp]

wtf

[inner fulcrum]

mishka, wutus, astar, scarlet, desira

but I only beat floor 20 lmao

[shadow hollow]

Best first team?

[dawn yacht]

hmm i'll try mishka wutus asolise scarlet (idk)

[atomic imp]

There’s no button to swap your teams this is so dumbbb

you have to manually remove and re-add every hero if you want to change the order of your teams

[unique hollow]

it really is dumb

[atomic imp]

and you also have to swap pets and relics…

they completely 100% overlooked this
At 5 teams it will be an absolute nightmare without a hotfix

[woeful fjord]

abrutus dims smfeels kinda bad after floor 20

[inner fulcrum]

scarlet flex feels really good

[woeful fjord]

at 0lvl enchancer at least

[gleaming geyser]

im glad they atleast made it not class based

because i got to floor 300 at like halfway into last season and got stuck because i couldnt make a fourth team with 3 classes

[woeful fjord]

i’ll prob just put scarlet in for ezio

[gleaming geyser]

but yeah it seems brutal otherwise until you get some temporal levels

[woeful fjord]

o restarting the run resets our stability too

[soft axle]

boy twins room is super shit now

[lament jolt]

idk gonna be nice for pushing, 2 free floors

[soft axle]

yeah that's true

[violet walrus]

twins room was always sht

[unique hollow]

boss room on 50, is only eziz

[violet walrus]

enjoyable

[finite latch]

is it normal to be stuck on floor 13? first time doing rift

[lament jolt]

oh these things are badge upgrades not new badges woops

[atomic imp]

[soft axle]

it'll be like X ->> Y, if X is empty then it's a new one

[unique hollow]

oh we can go floor 100 day 1

[unique hollow]

very lucky !!!

[soft axle]

i got rem too, she's op here

[atomic imp]

[inner fulcrum]

ah nvm

you can skip to any 20th floor after exiting

I stopped at floor 61 now

[unique hollow]

nothing broken here

[soft axle]

hmm they added more awk to store I see

fuck you lilith

[slow hill]

Thoughts on who’s good here?

[soft axle]

[unique hollow]

[lament jolt]

[slow hill]

it is then ty :)

[violet walrus]

among other great choices

[soft axle]

fat lyca

[dawn yacht]

lol, 209e60 abaden from beckoning for me

[soft axle]

Wtf

[unique hollow]

3 teams at 81 @atomic imp

[slow hill]

Walker here for sure right??

[woeful fjord]

i got atalene then crassio

[unique hollow]

[dawn yacht]

gets dramatically harder at 41

[woeful fjord]

well they definitely bumped up the number of beconing floors

[dawn yacht]

for me anyway

[unique hollow]

did you level oyur beacon ?

[dawn yacht]

capped at 10

not harder like i'm losing but team actually taking damage now etc

[mossy python]

Hi new here

[dawn yacht]

how are you guys prioritizing badge upgrades with the slot skill things?

my badges lv21 atm

[scenic finch]

How can I get off this floor, is this broken?

[violet walrus]

such great selection

[unique hollow]

that maetria looks amazing

[cosmic totem]

Any benefit to pushing early? I'm planning to wait till towards the end of the week to have more info.

[desert scroll]

Whats ur third team guys my 3rd team cant win at all

[nimble halo]

Anyone at 100 got teams they can send me?

[gleaming geyser]

its so rough not being able to get to floor 20 to get a level or two on the beacons

if you cant get to 20 it seems like your stuck waiting for natural exp to level it up

[candid yacht]

random bs gooo!

[lament jolt]

I was cruising at first but from 41 its starting to make me sweat

[candid yacht]

simillar teams.. should have used that

[wheat laurel]

same is happening to me

[candid yacht]

I literally ran out of retries

and just hoping my stam wont go poof

[lament jolt]

wow I could actually copy one of those, don't think it'd be worth with my investments though haha

[quiet otter]

Can L belinda sir

[candid yacht]

try and see

[proven arrow]

1.5% on leader board

[quiet otter]

when i reset i start at level 1 or floor 80

[candid yacht]

are these teams run smoothly? or theres some struggles too?

same 1.5% gang

[lament jolt]

damn leaderboard ranking gonna be rough then

[candid yacht]

literally a race

[proven arrow]

Wutus and Abel did fine until floor 100. Payden struggled

[candid yacht]

you need to push fash

same but i use alna athane

kinda struggle too

[cosmic totem]

I'm guessing it's all heavy hitters pushing right now (it's also reasonable morning time in China/Korea etc.). Ranks should thin out over weeks.

[proven arrow]

But I slotted Ezizh for Abel cycle and Alna for payden. Alna had to go back to Abel and Ezizh moved with payden

[candid yacht]

the problem is the ranking is how fast you push

not how far

[woeful fjord]

am now stuck at 81 cuz apperently i’m just bad at making comps lol

[lament jolt]

Unless too many people reach max floors

[cosmic totem]

Wait is it ranks based on who reaches first every week, or just at the very end?

I was planning to wait a few days for others to test the mode out and give comp recommendations before starting 😛

[candid yacht]

who reaches first

[dawn yacht]

why do you lose stability for winning 🤔

[candid yacht]

it does get refreshed by floras dew

so its fine

[cosmic totem]

But do you expect to reach max floors? I was just assuming I won't, so for me it probably won't matter 😛 Also, even for the people who do reach max floors, the first week shouldn't matter - it's only the "last" week when they have access to the max floor?

[quiet otter]

Cal L bel work sir ?

[lament jolt]

idk I hope I can

[dawn yacht]

and sometimes i have a hero die, but my stability doesn't change. lolwat

[candid yacht]

well tbf if you cant reach max floors then its how far you can push

but for the people who think they can its on how fast they push

its like dark nemora tr

its on who can reach the dmg first

but atleast free baits

[cosmic totem]

And any benefit to pushing early, e.g. faster xp accumulation? I haven't paid attention to the details yet, but I vaguely recall hearing that the exp accumulation now was just fixed, and independent of how much / how fast you push?

[candid yacht]

rankings

if i pushed floor 100 earlier i could have reach 1% or even top 200

but since i started and finished late I ranked 1.5%

[cosmic totem]

Ohhh got it.

[candid yacht]

but the good thing is you wont go down anymore

yea i hate it tbh

[atomic imp]

I’m stuck on floor 100

[candid yacht]

yea floor 100 suk

[atomic imp]

I need Palmer for both the boss and for the first fight

[woeful fjord]

what 3 teams y’all doing

[candid yacht]

I just hail mary the teams to not lose stam

abel
wutus
athane

[woeful fjord]

cringe

[scenic finch]

i tried to exit and got back to this level and the same thing happens

[wheat laurel]

i just rewinded the floor and put on my 2nd team and it worked

[cosmic totem]

Got beckoning place at floor 1 - any benefit to fighting battles in this TRift?

[unique hollow]

i think im done for tonight, reached floor 81, cant win anymore

[dawn yacht]

same, gonna wait for beacon to unlock

[soft axle]

yeah you get upgrades to your badge from fighting battle. but a good beckon probably better

[woeful fjord]

double same don’t wanna risk getting reset back to 81 if i push close but don’t quite make it

[cosmic totem]

Got it. Went beckon. Edwin, Morael, normal Talene - all seem attractive choices. Probably going normal Talene. Edit: went Edwin - he seems fun.

[unique hollow]

yea, my 3º teams seem to struggle

[quiet otter]

i stuck at 81 :((

[atomic imp]

Yeah I’m stuck at 100. I used like 12 retries on this team 1 already.

Time to wait a week

[cosmic totem]

What did you use for your 3 teams? I was planning:
T1: Abel
T2: Dims
T3: Wolise cycle

[quiet otter]

my Mulan 30930

she can't work

[wheat laurel]

at floor 82 if you reset you go back to floor 1 ?

[atomic imp]

I did Belinda alna / Brutus dims / and thane with some supports

[proven arrow]

Athane lb seems to be the better 3rd team

[dense forge]

You go back to 80

[wheat laurel]

its saying this xS

[woeful fjord]

yeah that’s just saying your previous best floor was 15

[inner fulcrum]

can you think of a waden sub in t2?

[proven arrow]

Running with athane + lb probably better

[inner fulcrum]

I dont have athane either lmao

just abel and wutus

[proven arrow]

[atomic imp]

Does it always send you back to the most recent multiple of 20th floor?

[inner fulcrum]

u can choose

[atomic imp]

and if you don’t get sent back do you keep the seals you had or start with none?

[inner fulcrum]

you start with none

[atomic imp]

also does anyone know what the max badge lvl is

[inner fulcrum]

and with a "base" badge level

max badge level depends on the beacon upgrade too

[atomic imp]

Oh so it’s just capped by the base level plus how many floors you climb

[inner fulcrum]

yeah

[atomic imp]

Or is there an actual cap you can hit?

[inner fulcrum]

my first cap was lvl 10

and now I am over 30 so idk

[atomic imp]

oh I never reached a point where I couldn’t level it

[inner fulcrum]

if u choose the vertex stage

it maxed my badge

[atomic imp]

maybe the cap is 50 at 100

Mine are 48/45/48

[dawn yacht]

am i blind or is there no button that lets you swap teams?

[woeful fjord]

nope

[glad peak]

swap broken

[woeful fjord]

they forgot it ig

[inner fulcrum]

I dont think it is broken

[glad peak]

game broken

[full rampart]

boss lvl 70-

[inner fulcrum]

they wanted it more leisure so they forbid u to swap

[full rampart]

broke

how wtf i kil boss lvl 70

[inner fulcrum]

it is set teams and auto till u run out of stamina

[atomic imp]

They just made it super annoying to swap. You can still do it

[dawn yacht]

how?

or you mean manually

[atomic imp]

Yeah it sucks

[dawn yacht]

hopefully they bring out autobattle and team swapping in updates

[atomic imp]

now if you want to actually think about matchups, you have to go through the very tedious process of manually swapping every character

[soft axle]

how tf they manage to make a bad mode even worse

lilith is really a special company

[atomic imp]

I like what they did with badges at least

and the seals are kind of cool

[cosmic totem]

I like the seals too! But annoying that I can't swap teams...

[dawn yacht]

yeah overall it's an improvement...if you don't consider rewards, or lack of athane in store for no particular reason (the only awk i wanted from there ;_;)

[full rampart]

guys i need comp for lvl 70 boss

its not normal

[dawn yacht]

is he killing your heroes at the very start? adding merlin helped me survive that, then he was pretty easy

[cosmic totem]

Getting awk seems super slow though 😐 I'd rather just get ToTs + all the other rewards, and wait for the next OP awk.

[soft axle]

i like the things under the badge (is that the seal?) but then you lose it every boss and feel super shitty

[native basin]

from 1-100 is it only 1 team?

[woeful fjord]

this would’ve been a really positive change if they didn’t mess with rewards and make part of it leaderboard dependent

[full rampart]

is not kil my heroes.. is not die

is go from zero hp to 30

[cosmic totem]

I don't mind losing it - gives me a fresh sense of progression after each boss.

[full rampart]

all time

[dawn yacht]

yeh but my athane has 3 copies already, plus summon chest and plus store would be 5 copies, so i'd go ahead and build him... but as it is, abrutus/asolise already have, atalene not worth trying to build that slowly, aezizh is lol

why not add athane wtf -_-

[cosmic totem]

Got it.

[dawn yacht]

not like you can abuse some store that you only get enough every 3 months to buy a copy in, shoulda just added the entire first wave of awks imo

[woeful fjord]

can you do abrutus dims with scarlet instead of ezio? or someone with good burst damage instead of abrutus

[dawn yacht]

yeh just need more damage in that case

i used a typical ainz dim comp

[snow juniper]

i tried that

didnt work after like floor 18 lmao

[atomic imp]

2-teams starts at 41 or 61 and 3-teams starts at 61 or 81. Can’t remember exactly.

[dawn yacht]

i started with 10/10 beacon tho from sub chests

[candid yacht]

75 3 teams

[snow juniper]

o

[dawn yacht]

make sure you level yours, makes a huge diff

[snow juniper]

not spending for temp lol

[candid yacht]

I just upgrade random bs badges too

[fast skiff]

so umm the beckoning place whats that?

[atomic imp]

hire a merc

[fast skiff]

ah thnx

[dawn yacht]

getting abaden from beckoning prolly helped me not stall too :q

[atomic imp]

I got Rem and Framton lol

[dawn yacht]

1-60 was straight instant kill 0 damage taken with 10/10 beacon though, so anyone stuck will plow through it in a couple days when they get more levelups

[dawn yacht]

when did you get 2nd beckoning? i only got that one 1-80

[atomic imp]

Rem consistently did way more damage than Abrutus

And Abrutus damage kind of sucked toward the end

[dawn yacht]

yeah rem op

abrutus cc is amazing tho

and grouping

[atomic imp]

last round his damage was OP too

idk what happened to the scaling

[soft axle]

rem is super op here yeah

[clever solar]

I got to 99 and couldn't do 100, and when I retry I start from all the way back at 80

Makes sense

[atomic imp]

240 is max rewards and we have 8 more weekly resets, so we only need to push like 20 floors a week from now on

[languid oriole]

anyone has any comp for level 70? not enough dmg for my end. Tried abel, abaden, asolise and abrutus team but cant kill it

[atomic imp]

I used alna Abel haelus Palmer raine for bosses

[languid oriole]

managed to clear 70 with that?

[atomic imp]

cleared everything up through 100 with it

the boss at least

I can’t clear team 1 xd

[languid oriole]

alright ima try that

thanks!

[proven arrow]

Abel for r1 on floor 100

[atomic imp]

what did you use for the boss?

Brutus?

[full rampart]

i need team 3

[proven arrow]

Yes, took 2 fights

[silent steppe]

Wich should pick here?

Dont know wich is more dangerous

[lament jolt]

if the one on the right is the same as before never pick it

[silent garden]

This is what I like. No more class beacons.

[soft axle]

Someone should check it lol, see if it's the same

[lament jolt]

oh it actually has to be different cause you always start at full health and 0 energy hmm

[soft axle]

I liked class beacons. Meant I ran comps and heros that didn't work anywhere else. Made the mode unique

[silent steppe]

Yea i did one of those mehira stages and it cursed me for several floors or something

[silent garden]

But hey, you no longer have restrictions.

[soft axle]

Yeah so I'm back to the same comps I run everywhere else

[lament jolt]

yeah class beacons are kinda cool and unique but so restricting if you don't have a built account

[merry hatch]

Welp, I'm stuck at f84 for the week

[silent garden]

Lilith finally listened.

[merry hatch]

Top 10% from what leaderboard says...for now

[lament jolt]

21% right now but still pushing

[soft axle]

Approximately 30% of these changes are Lilith listening, and the rest are them making annoying changes

[atomic imp]

@proven arrow ty

[merry hatch]

Honestly, add like 4k cores to the rewards and I'd say call it

[merry hatch]

Cause it's not a bad update

Just....where's the damn cores

[soft axle]

Yeah the rewards are the biggest loss

[native basin]

anyone trying to slide the team they used for rift. o.o possibly asolise team

[soft axle]

V sad

[fast skiff]

have to buy them sadly

[lament jolt]

who's gonna buy cores over time cards and wokes lol

[merry hatch]

Do we have a diamond value for each one?

Cause idk what to buy from store

[soft axle]

I'll never spend again because of this change. Lilith you just lost like $15/mo

[merry hatch]

I wanna say TEs are #1

[brittle wraith]

[atomic imp]

Managed to 1 shot it with Merlin wutus Joan Rem (beckoning) albedo

[brittle wraith]

i would put baits 2nd but thats just me

[silent garden]

Does completing floors no longer give armillary exp?

[atomic imp]

Nope it’s all from bosses

You get like 650 from the bosses

[glass garnet]

What teams r u guys running

[cosmic totem]

This boss keeps killing 2-3 of my heroes. Any comp changes I should make, or do I just wait and try to push later in the week with upgraded beacon?

[lament jolt]

currently running abaden gbs and dims

[cosmic totem]

Used up a bunch of retries on this, thinking better to pause and come back.

[brittle wraith]

if you cant kill the boss in 1st try, kill it in 2nd try lol

[lament jolt]

no real problems yet on floor 61 now, scared for 3 teams haha

[glass garnet]

So still same heroes as before

[brittle wraith]

just loss some stability but its better than wasting retries

[cosmic totem]

What do you mean second try? Hero dead != permanent?

[glass garnet]

Yes

U lose stability

[atomic imp]

I had a team time out but kill 2 enemies. When I tried to start a new fight without restarting it gave me an error about the teams mismatching or something

[unique hollow]

what teams did you run ?

[cosmic totem]

Huh okay. UI doesn't seem too clear on that. Will give it a try. For now, complain strat seemed to have worked, cleared it without dying on next attempt.

[cosmic totem]

Do the retries refresh every week like before?

[brittle wraith]

yes

[glass garnet]

[dense kindle]

I have efficient stability at floor 34, what do i do?

[cosmic totem]

GG

I got Mulan and Haelus from beckoning. Now I never want to restart this run. How do I avoid that?

[glass garnet]

Useful recruits as ever

[silent garden]

Oh there's Aw.Solise

But that means saving up the 6000 tokens.

[atomic imp]

Team 1: alna ABelinda haelus Rowan raine

Team 2: ABrutus Merlin albedo Joan Ainz (replaced ainz with Rem when I got her in beckoning)

Team 3: Athane Veithael Palmer Silas and Framton (from beckoning) started with Sonja.

The thane team is probably in need of some work but it did fine most of the time

[timid shuttle]

You can do it kitteh we believe in you

[silent garden]

Did the team swap menu button vanish?

[glass garnet]

[fast skiff]

sadly yes

[trail sorrel]

Does anyone know what the tiers for the artifact things are? (Like the color)

[atomic imp]

Yes and it’s terrible

[silent garden]

Hopefully just a bug and that it'll get fixed.

[atomic imp]

[silent garden]

Apparently, seals reset after each boss floor every 20 floors.

[full rampart]

wow its so bad mod

now

why its so hard after lvl 80

[native basin]

this good for now?

[cosmic totem]

Does stability reset after every week as well?

[lament jolt]

you're almost at the halfway point day 1 it'll be fine

[brittle wraith]

reset when you start a new run

[unique hollow]

my team keeps getting timed out

[full rampart]

me to lol

[cosmic totem]

Oh - so we want to avoid stability fully running out... And Flora's Dew is the only way to recover it?

[full rampart]

only ainz team work for me good now

[lament jolt]

just put abaden in your gbs, easy

[brittle wraith]

afaik yeah

[unique hollow]

baeden is a dead hero

[lament jolt]

well yes but

[silent garden]

I'd honestly be all for changing temporal rift to every 1 month, and change max armillary level to 10.

[scenic snow]

[unique hollow]

yea i really dont have enough to win any fight in 81

[native basin]

just delete rift and give the rewards anyways ez solution

o_O

[scenic snow]

[lament jolt]

ok wait I cant kill this rigby on floor 70

[unique hollow]

yea, dead game mode

[full rampart]

for kil this guy

you need abrutos

[lament jolt]

feels bad

[full rampart]

i kil this guy ez after this

[scenic snow]

max traits bacon ?

[unique hollow]

yes

[native basin]

o.O

[unique hollow]

those look good, but not something i can replicate

[scenic snow]

which wokes you got ?

[unique hollow]

just athane

[silent garden]

Personally I feel that the new temporal rift is much easier and streamlined.

[scenic snow]

oof thats hard. i tried alna wothane. got whooped

[native basin]

seems ez ||only at floor 40 ill regret saying this obv||

[full rampart]

broke mode

[scenic snow]

1-80 is okay. 81> shit hits the fan

[brittle wraith]

[scenic snow]

checkpoints are 21 41 61 etc. so if you get to 99 and 0 stability. return to 81 and try again and again and again

[native basin]

hopefully i can stay on LB rewards at least...

currently at 25%

o.o

[scenic snow]

it just started ?

[native basin]

wot?

[scenic snow]

trift for live

[native basin]

says 59d 21h for me so ig yes?

o.O