Oof I actually used Arthur and Joan mb xD
#temporal-rift
rugged raven
low heath
I still use Arthur just cuz I'm too lazy to switch. there are clear matchups I know Arthur can handle (ie I stick him in front of Thali and laugh) but I'd have to go thru the learning curve to figure out Joan's good/bad matches and that takes rewinds I'm not willing to use atm
eternal mesa
we need luster
rugged raven
So what’s your lineup? You use Mortas?
Try Arthur and albedo front then. Ainz Joan merlin back. That’s what I used
eternal mesa
Try Arthur and albedo front then. Ainz Joan merlin back. That’s what I used
i use 1.bedo 2.merlin 3.ainz 4.mortas 5.joa
it got better after i realised that bedo is better in front than joa 
atomic imp
I’m at 212 and waiting for a couple days because I blew a ton of retries on a stage with 2 Isabella teams and a Satrana + Thali team
brittle wraith
exit and find another team
unique hollow
anyone ran anoki in recent times ?
thinking of trying him in ainz instead of mortas
not an indicator of anything, but maybe interesting since he has 2 or 3 buffs and a cc on his skillset
uncut prism
I was thinking of trying him in an invade team at 300 or 450, but i dont know what investment he needs.
unique hollow
not sure how tank he is, suspect not a lot, needs testing
unique hollow
I was thinking of trying him in an invade team at 300 or 450, but i dont know wh...
prob not made for frontline
there as a buffer anyway hoping he is more survival than mortas
same fight different order
floor 210~214^
spiral creek
@unique hollow i think even arthur is better there. why anoki?
unique hollow
Does his knockback work?
think so. its a bit all over the place the fights, but getting entire backline knocked suggests so
unique hollow
<@377143498756980736> i think even arthur is better there. why anoki?
long story short, i used arthur in a run, and i found myself lacking dmg, it was 5 6x power, it wasn't a single fight, but i was having a hard time, went with mortas instead, very sucessful but mortas dies sometimes so needed to be careful with position, which is fine, thats trift, and i thought, anoki's buffs and considering he is ascended he might be more survival than mortas, + knockback, and that leads to current form.
spiral creek
ainz always lack damage without mortas yeah
low heath
anoki's offensive buff is not even close to comparable to mortas'
unique hollow
i haven't tried ldv with joa ainz
maybe next weekly reset
close to no rewinds
could be good ldv here
he was a bit dog compared to mortas once you reach a bit high on the floors.
before joa
🪠 🥛
spiral creek
you just havent tried
unique hollow
unique hollow
spiral creek
i run cele/might/sus
unique hollow
i run cele/might/sus
using anasta somewhere ?
spiral creek
anasta with brutus yeah, and merlin, joa, framton
thane+alna + some supports
solise cycle full sus line up
unique hollow
so close to max 👀
spiral creek
trying to rush for a bit of advantage. pushed 200 early with brutus-anasta-merlin and athane-alna-silas
those 2 are just ridiculously overpower
unique hollow
aiming for 800 ? max rewards
spiral creek
sure. last season 600 pretty comfortably.
trying to spend less this season and see
but pets should help a bit
unique hollow
should be safe, considering you went so far early on
5 rewinds changing position around, hard fight
spiral creek
ainz front 👁️
spiral creek
@ everyone
uncut prism
Desira so good on rift lol
unique hollow
did you see vid above ?
uncut prism
Every team I put her on gets better
unique hollow
indeed desira is 👌
spiral creek
problem with running might right now is i dont know what to put for 4 teams or 5 teams
unique hollow
cross the bridge when you reach it
both celerity and mage have quite a bit to go with
might, is complicated
spiral creek
missing grez kinda if i want to kill boss easily
low heath
for more cc and damage buff
control doesn't work in rift, generally speaking
enemy TY is too high
uncut prism
did you see vid above ?
His knockback works 
low heath
Mortas is typically better by a significant margin
uncut prism
All that resisted text though wtf?
spiral creek
yeah know mortas is better by a mile, but raina has problem with him dying
im just saying ldv is at least better than anoki
low heath
All that resisted text though wtf?
as I just said, enemy TY is too high and 99% of control abilties fail
some knockups work, like Mish/Grez. portals from Oden also work
uncut prism
Did you watch the vid?
low heath
yeah, it's Anoki
uncut prism
They're being knocked back with resisted text spam 
low heath
It's in my big guide
Anoki's ult is considered continuous control
you can resist none of the IS/TY checks, some of them, or all of them
uncut prism
Im guessing thats why ezizh pull works too? You fail most checks but since its continous it eventually works.
cosmic stirrup
How well does the scarlet/daimon cycle work if both twins and ezizh are E+
atomic imp
Skriath ult moves enemies around but they’re free to use skills and it floods the screen with resisted text
untold matrix
would be hard for them to survive tbh...
atomic imp
They have the same atk/def/hp stats as all your other units even if they’re e+. They are missing some haste from engraves and survivability is a bit lower because twins don’t have their furniture shield and ezizh doesn’t get his damage reduction while channeling his taunt, but the team still works pretty well.
cosmic stirrup
fast jay
is there an up to date cheatsheet for teams?
cosmic stirrup
is there an up to date cheatsheet for teams?
Or you can scroll up and see what teams other people are running
slow barn
do rewinds reset in 21 hrs or 1d 21h?
cosmic stirrup
1d 21hr
slow barn
cool cool
halcyon wind
Floor 150 at lvl 9 a
You do get lvl 14 starting relics @low heath
green gate
Rewinds reset at next reset?
Monday
rugged raven
The reset after this reset xD
heavy skiff
How toimprove my gb team? Its very inconsistent stuck at 150+
green gate
How toimprove my gb team? Its very inconsistent stuck at 150+
Is ur Desira build?
heavy skiff
Is ur Desira build?
303 e30
green gate
Drop Daimon for her
heavy skiff
I have haelus 309 joan 203 e30 if they could fit into anything
green gate
And Mishka for Hodgkin
heavy skiff
Ok
green gate
Jeanne d'Arc for Arthur
heavy skiff
Desira move to gb?
green gate
Yes
heavy skiff
What do i replace her on my scarlet team
green gate
Talene or Haelus maybe
heavy skiff
Both my talenes are not built
green gate
Then try Haelus
heavy skiff
Ok tnx
obtuse charm
How toimprove my gb team? Its very inconsistent stuck at 150+
I'm using Mishka instead of Daimon
low heath
How toimprove my gb team? Its very inconsistent stuck at 150+
Oden shud be position 4 if you're running Hodg.
Unless enemy positions discourage that
I also oddly don't like Daimon in gb's
covert obsidian
ppl here reached 300? hard
dire shard
do the retries reset every week to 200 again?
green gate
do the retries reset every week to 200 again?
Yes every monday
green gate
ppl here reached 300? hard
Almost 288 rn
stark matrix
dire shard
Yes every monday
ty
low heath
ppl here reached 300? hard
some ppl have, yeah. idk how many f2p have but I'm close
eternal mesa
bruh im 180
timid shuttle
I'm 270ish with 30 or so retries left
silent garden
Finally got past the level 9 wall. Time to push.
merry depot
What teams are you guys using? I’m doing AwSolise cycle dims and scarlet burst, is that good? And t4 will probably be GBs
eternal mesa
What teams are you guys using? I’m doing AwSolise cycle dims and scarlet burst, ...
gbs are better if you dont have good investment on scarlet team imo
merry depot
gbs are better if you dont have good investment on scarlet team imo
Scarlet is 309e66 
but no 9f on mishka
eternal mesa
Scarlet is 309e66 <:LOLfric:987530471183384616> but no 9f on mishka
yeah but your gbs are prob better overall
merry depot
yeah but your gbs are prob better overall
That’s my investment on both teams
GBs I guess
eternal mesa
That’s my investment on both teams
scar burst isnt good in trift ngl
if you run mage check pins
low heath
Floor 150 at lvl 9 a
You do get lvl 14 starting relics <@617875785319055399>
was that on all 15 heroes or only 10 of them?
timid shuttle
Estrilda and lyca aren't one of the main 3
eternal mesa
fera also
low heath
That’s my investment on both teams
this looks like you're running all 5 classes, which isn't optimal. you'd rather pump most resources into 3 classes to get maximum beacon benefits
also if you were gonna run Might, I'm puzzled why you wouldn't just run AGB, especially given you literally named that comp AGB but Alna isn't there
halcyon wind
was that on all 15 heroes or only 10 of them?
10 lvl 14
5 lvl 13
low heath
10 lvl 14
5 lvl 13
thanks!
halcyon wind
thanks!
No problem feel free to pm any requests for specific benchmarks or info you need and I’ll do my best. I have 3 accounts. I push heavy with one, semi with the other, and the last just kind of cruises but could rack up info for those who maybe are newer and can’t push farther
low heath
No problem feel free to pm any requests for specific benchmarks or info you need...
if you're not in a run, can u go to the account that's starting on 151, then scroll down and look at the starting badge lvls for floors 131/136/141/146?
halcyon wind
if you're not in a run, can u go to the account that's starting on 151, then scr...
136, 141, 146
131
low heath
huh. now that is very interesting. ty!
silent garden
Managed to finish 150 in time.
Entering 3-team floors so it will be a daunting task.
Oh crap I forgot to take the rewards, how do I access the reward page when I have no entries left?
halcyon wind
and just to confirm, u did kill the floor 150 boss?
Yes I did on that account
low heath
👍
low heath
Yes I did on that account
so just to confirm, floor 136 is the first time u unlock lvl 13 badges and floor 151 is the first time u unlock lvl 14?
halcyon wind
so just to confirm, floor 136 is the first time u unlock lvl 13 badges and floor...
Yes correct. 136-46 remained the exact same
low heath
oof. I have to fix the extrapolation then. thanks!
merry depot
also if you were gonna run Might, I'm puzzled why you wouldn't just run AGB, esp...
I maxed sorc fort and supp, is it better to put Thoran instead of Fareal to benefit more from beacons? And I just swapped Alna for Daimon for the ss of my teams
eternal mesa
I maxed sorc fort and supp, is it better to put Thoran instead of Fareal to bene...
you can put mishka grez front and oden silas daimon back for gbs
or if you have hodge, him for mishka
merry depot
you can put mishka grez front and oden silas daimon back for gbs
Seems good I’ll do that
eternal mesa
Seems good I’ll do that
got me to 300 last time and hope it will get me to 450 this season
merry depot
got me to 300 last time and hope it will get me to 450 this season <:homegalul:6...
Bruh I can’t be bothered to push after 300, too many teams to defeat
I got to 300 and stopped
Last season
eternal mesa
yeah but since i have Asolise i will try
merry depot
Yh it’s true now we have an extra team
quasi turtle
The reset after this reset xD
All right thanks
timid shuttle
I maxed sorc fort and supp, is it better to put Thoran instead of Fareal to bene...
The idea of leveling up the 3 beacons is to use heroes of only those three beacons
Thus no alna or ferael
merry depot
why not both
low heath
Bedo has this bad habit of exploding. It's rather tilting
unique hollow
i ended up dropping arthur, seemed like the best way to go
obtuse charm
and im not gonna drop merlin
I ran Merlin Albedo Ainz Mortas JoA
and I'm almost 250 with f2p beacon
whole bloom
Wonder which team i can try yennefer in, maybe with that numisu scarlet team we have to use in 5 teams lol
signal sphinx
so is the core loop reset-sweep-autobattle a few floors til heroes die then manual a few floors, get bored rewinding and micromanaging formations, quit until afk boosts lets u autobattle again?
obtuse charm
show beacons <:gunsolise:667747777534492682>
They are the normal beacon
It is 32/27/32
mage is 27
eternal mesa
nothing else?
obtuse charm
Lvl 1 Undying Afterglow/Fusion Shield/Heaven's Grace/Deity's Deliverance/Faith Amp
Lvl 5 Deity's Shelter
eternal mesa
tysm
eternal mesa
Lvl 1 Undying Afterglow/Fusion Shield/Heaven's Grace/Deity's Deliverance/Faith A...
btw is arty guide up to date with beacons?
obtuse charm
btw is arty guide up to date with beacons?
I don't follow Arty's guide and never really did
Use Luster's guide
eternal mesa
there are beacons in there too?
eternal mesa
bruh
timid shuttle
It's literally the first thing in the guide
obtuse charm
he told me that you don't level steady prep until 5 teams
eternal mesa
It's literally the first thing in the guide
shush
eternal mesa
<@381509323487969282>
i would like that hodge pls
merry depot
same 
eternal mesa
He is fine at just 200
hes not fine at e+ btw
obtuse charm
hes not fine at e+ btw <:belovedzikis:884583816910483506>
Don't tell me you ascended Desira first
eternal mesa
Don't tell me you ascended Desira first <:unimpressedalna:813552756878606368>
ofc not
i mean shes M
and shes gonna stay like that
obtuse charm
i mean shes M
eternal mesa
for ts reasons
obtuse charm
eternal mesa
<:ogifrown:574301713192976385>
i have some fodders tho
hes gonna be enough at M?
20si
obtuse charm
hes gonna be enough at M?
I mean that's his minimum for rift
some furn/engravings help as well
engravings aren't too important since enemy TY is so high that it's rare he even cc's the enemies
eternal mesa
okay ty
eternal mesa
I mean that's his minimum for rift
will he be better than 209 mishka tho
obtuse charm
will he be better than 209 mishka tho
Use both
eternal mesa
wdym use both
obtuse charm
wdym use both <:belovedzikis:884583816910483506>
What do you think I mean 😭
rose sandal
I wonder if Hodgkin 209 e3x is better than Desira 309
eternal mesa
What do you think I mean 😭
i have grez front bruh
rose sandal
I use both in GB, but without Mishka
obtuse charm
i have grez front bruh
I do too 
obtuse charm
I wonder if Hodgkin 209 e3x is better than Desira 309
I'm not sure tbh, I found Hodgkin/Mishka doing well for me since Desira wasn't invested well for me
I saw AwSolise GBs + Scarlet Desira cycle as well, but idk how well that does
woeful fjord
i forgor about this
pure cave
Help me out here: did I totally imagine that the resurrection buff from the blessed realm also stacked in your undying afterglow lives? I could have sworn they did last season but I just went through 2 and I got nothing from them.
chilly hull
That's from a beacon
pure cave
I have the beacon that saves the revives from the phoenix room. I was just pretty sure the revives from the twins room also got saved. Unless that's a different one and I never noticed
chilly hull
Don't think that one ever got saved
pure cave
So I probably just hallucinated or counted wrong sometime last season. Ah well
marsh cliff
4 fights floors with 15 heroes, anyone has ideas for comps?
kindred nacelle
I'm pretty sure bless realm's resurrection was also not saved in last season
lapis vine
<@381509323487969282>
what floor are u on?
merry hatch
Can someone link that trift guide that recommends teams per floor range?
scenic snow
its in the pins
atomic imp
At what point is flower whisperer worth maxing?
heady bay
Can someone show The grand hunt beacons ?
low heath
At what point is flower whisperer worth maxing?
I'd say 4 teams
timid shuttle
Grand hunt has even opened yet
low heath
it has
vagrant phoenix
So what do I do when all the gamers are playing Awbrutus in grand hunt
Still got a while on it so I’m gonna hold till my beacon is stronk but
atomic imp
I'd say 4 teams
Same with steady preparations?
woeful fjord
scenic snow
<:lycalurk:646429527379017768>
gib BnB 300b strats 
woeful fjord
gib BnB 300b strats <:gunsolise:667747777534492682>
Swiping for max temporal feedback
woeful fjord
smoky wren
Any guides on what to do in grand hunt?
white sphinx
Attack attack attack
eternal mesa
obtuse charm
what floor are u on?
250
neon gorge
don’t forget to use ur nonexistent AwBrutus
grandhunt gonna be 5 awakeneds carrying 5 rounds this time
eternal mesa
dont forget to max pets too
brittle wraith
dont forget to max pets too
I found a very good old team in Trift
brittle wraith
This
acoustic iron
brittle wraith
eager dock
I need two teams for the boss? Any help plz
green gate
AwTalene, Daimon, Astar, Rowan, Scarlet
Grezhul, Mishka, Oden, Silas, Raine
green gate
I need two teams for the boss? Any help plz
☝️
eager dock
AwTalene, Daimon, Astar, Rowan, Scarlet
Grezhul, Mishka, Oden, Silas, Raine
you sure on using scarlet in T1 not team 2?
green gate
you sure on using scarlet in T1 not team 2?
Grezhul should get the job done
eager dock
ok thnx
obtuse charm
Lvl 1 Undying Afterglow/Fusion Shield/Heaven's Grace/Deity's Deliverance/Faith A...
@eager dock
eager dock
<@780808806594117652>
Cant even beat 1 of the teams💩
strong fable
I'm trying to push past 300 with 15 heroes
luc team is eating a lot of retries though
gonna have to make it a 5 man team and figure out who I can remove from team 1
hollow pumice
anyone here doing warrior tank support?
strong fable
I'm doing warrior cele support, no tank
hollow pumice
i've been testing this so far but idk it isn't great
grez hodg daimon haelus silas
Twins talene eziz rowan merlin
Mishka joan brutus anasta saurus
hollow pumice
I'm doing warrior cele support, no tank
hmm i dont have athane and athalia :(
obtuse charm
Cant even beat 1 of the teams💩
Replace Daimon for someone else
shell sierra
Best team !!
unique hollow
why is it so hard to reach 250, stupid formations always kill 1 hero
im really starting to hate grez, he dies in 2 seconds, every single time
strong fable
I replace grez with trez
eternal mesa
gbs are so shit in rift ngl
low heath
unique hollow
I replace grez with trez
is your trez very 🐳 ?
strong fable
cele is way easier than mage but you need AThane and Athalia
if you have them it's just a speedrun until 5 teams
atomic imp
Does athalia work at M +30?
lapis vine
^ i have a M +20 athalia but built Athane
strong fable
She can probably work at M+30
ezio does a lot of the work on that team
Team 1 is kinda rough at 5 teams
but the other 4 teams are solid
and team 2 has a lot of options
just random GBs go basically
if you don't have haelus, put skreg there and someone else in team 4
lapis vine
damn i’m missing a lot of investments… astar is 209 e0 trez is 203e0, atalene is 309e0
don’t have ezio yet, just finished queen,
hodge is 200, ezizh is M20, desira is 203e0….
probs not gonna work for me….
strong fable
most of those will work at that investment
trez probably has to be replaced with grez
but not having ezio is tough
lapis vine
i can get ezio to 200e30 rn if i spend some of my coins tho
strong fable
that comp works around athalia SI chipping down the enemies and then ezio executing them
better to save your coins for yen/geralt
lapis vine
my athalia is only M+20, worthwhile?
lapis vine
better to save your coins for yen/geralt
that’s what i was thinking
strong fable
my athalia is only M+20, worthwhile?
Her SI30 is important
probably better off just going mages
lapis vine
yeah i figured :/
i’m gazing Ezizh to get SI, might take him to A for furn, but then probs what athalia to A*?
timid shuttle
U shud reach 450 by the end of season easy
brittle wraith
there's no way u can reach f400
eternal mesa
U shud reach 450 by the end of season easy
well yeah
but i want to push 300 now
or in this week
lapis vine
i just got 300 w mages
obtuse charm
i just got 300 w mages
Show teams
lapis vine
sec
astral marlin
U shud reach 450 by the end of season easy
I only got to 350 last season 😭
eternal mesa
burnt sable
is there a general team for grand hunt bosses
timid shuttle
Ch33 box might be hard but possibly doable
My first rift I was around ur level and hit a little above 300
But that was during the first temple of time she stuff wasn't so figured out
cosmic stirrup
eternal mesa
depends on my gbs
idk how my scarlet team works too
since its ass investments
etc
low heath
invests almost don't matter in Rift. only if they unlock certain key skills
timid shuttle
Eventually your beacons will make up for the fact that they can't survive
rugged raven
Team 1: A Brutus / Skreg/ Oden/ Silas/ Joan Team 2 with Scarlet/Grez/Swolise/Twins/Baden did most of the damage
low heath
as/haste/pr/mr matter for rift. Beacons/badges cover almost everything else (badges give acc/dodge).
~~obv this assumes you're at least wearing full t2... if you're not, your mr/pr/acc/dodge are gonna be dogshit. ~~
since hp/atk/def don't matter, ascensions only matter for the skills they unlock
eternal mesa
as/haste/pr/mr matter for rift. Beacons/badges cover almost everything else (bad...
someone said that only t3 and t4 hero bonus counts
in trift
not counts but matters
low heath
ah right. thx
atomic imp
My Rowan has t3 gear and his icon shows up. It’s unclear whether he gets t4 or t3 character bonus on his boots and weapon
but the other gear definitely doesn’t get either of them
but they all have max dodge/acc (from gear at least)
strong fable
as/haste/pr/mr matter for rift. Beacons/badges cover almost everything else (bad...
Most of the other secondary stats do matter
you get them from beacons, but having them reduces your need for high beacons
atomic imp
You seem to mostly get crit amp and crit resist from beacons
strong fable
and a lot of tenacity/insight
atomic imp
yeah but past a certain point you just stop being able to cc I’m pretty sure
strong fable
if you hard push yes
at the lazy level of pushing a lot of people do, they're still relevant
low heath
my Ainz has 107.2 Crit when standing behind Arthur. In Rift he doesn't even crit 30% of the time, and his cda (or lack thereof relative to their cdr) makes me wanna vomit. enemy secondary stats are just too much
devout field
Team 1: A Brutus / Skreg/ Oden/ Silas/ Joan Team 2 with Scarlet/Grez/Swolise/Twi...
What Badges have used for heroes?
fast jay
is it easier to push with mages, i have athane but seem to get rekt with the other teams
eternal mesa
for cele you need high investment on heroes
lapis vine
Show teams <:belovedzikis:884583816910483506>
sorry for delay, we going to lunch then got pulled into meeting
obtuse charm
sorry for delay, we going to lunch then got pulled into meeting
Np 👍
This seems to be almost the exact same as mine but I don't have Haelus
atomic imp
Heal as a secondary stat is probably pretty good in rift
I don’t see very much of it in badges or beacons
unique hollow
i dont know how you can make 
work like that, only death
eternal mesa
gbs insta die
rugged raven
Have you tried killing the other team?
eternal mesa
unique hollow
gbs insta die <:kHAHAsos:646205552908566528>
yes, absolute 🗑️
rugged raven
What Badges have used for heroes?
Sorry I didn’t screen shot and I can’t go back since I’ve done all my fights
low heath
I don’t see very much of it in badges or beacons
you know what's funny about that? Supp beacon says it "greatly increases HEAL". what a joke.
fair point, tho
devout field
Sorry I didn’t screen shot and I can’t go back since I’ve done all my fights <:b...
Something similar to those?
strong fable
oden isa enemies are often annoying in rift
eternal mesa
i think you need joa on oden on this one
prob will wait untill reset for other teams
unique hollow
i just want larry 13 for badges
unique hollow
floor ?
eternal mesa
224
unique hollow
annoying floor
devout field
250 there
eternal mesa
how to win this shit <:belovedzikis:884583816910483506>
yeah
low heath
how to win this shit <:belovedzikis:884583816910483506>
Merlin is better off opposite Isa in my experience. Ainz has a problem with backline Isa cuz there's no way to distract/snipe her. I tend to run GB's against Isa cuz Grez's skellies can explode and drain energy b4 she ults, plus she'll waste some auto attacks on them, plus Grez can knock her in the air (ignores TY since it's not control but does briefly stop her from atking)
low heath
yeah ik
devout field
259 floor
eternal mesa
if gbs dont waste my 100 rewinds i will get to 300
devout field
With that easy too 300
eternal mesa
Merlin is better off opposite Isa in my experience. Ainz has a problem with back...
my gbs so ass tho
i dont even have hodge
and i have to use mishka
unique hollow
even wiht hodge
devout field
Hodge need 9/9
neon gorge
if gbs dont waste my 100 rewinds i will get to 300 <:belovedzikis:88458381691048...
Good luck, I used 50 rewinds just for 280-300
unique hollow
yea 209e36 sucks
low heath
mine is 209e33
eternal mesa
Good luck, I used 50 rewinds just for 280-300 <:kHAHAsos:646205552908566528>
i used like 70 on gbs alone from 180-220
low heath
I'm at floor 270 at 26/26/26
I'd be 300 if I had swolise but i don't. my awakened luck is dogshit
atomic imp
I actually read hodge’s skills the other day and he does so much lol
rugged raven
Something similar to those?
For twins and Mortas I think you need the support badge i think it looks like a leaf if I remember correctly
unique hollow
biggest revelation is without a doubt joa,
neon gorge
i used like 70 on gbs alone from 180-220 <:kHAHAsos:646205552908566528>
what’s ur 3rd team? gbs doing better for me than scarlet cycle
devout field
For twins and Mortas I think you need the support badge i think it looks like a ...
Hmh need to try then. I used this right now
low heath
I'm still not using JoA but mbe I shud. I just don't know her matchups yet
atomic imp
She spams heals and shields it’s awesome
low heath
but ik I can stick Arthur in front of Thali/Peggy/Bel and take a drink
atomic imp
like team wide big chunky heal when she ults
unique hollow
low heath
does her stun ever succeed or just like everyone else and TY too much?
neon gorge
idk about her stuns, but her healing is pretty good + DR
eternal mesa
what’s ur 3rd team? gbs doing better for me than scarlet cycle
ainz gbs and solise cycle
solise cycle really op
unique hollow
the 1 with sonja ?
eternal mesa
3 E+ heroes and L solise only used 10 rewinds at most
eternal mesa
the 1 with sonja ?
yes
lapis vine
solise cycle really op
i agree my L solise and L+ ezizh have no issues
well that’s not true, some issues but only after like floor 260
eternal mesa
only real problem is my weak twins
lapis vine
ah i have 209e30 twins
eternal mesa
i want so much celehypos ngl
lapis vine
don’t we all :/
eternal mesa
yeah 
green gate
Who doesnt
green gate
ah i have 209e30 twins
Make them E33 haste
lapis vine
wait they were my b
eternal mesa
Make them E33 haste
kadezh what floor are you
green gate
288
unique hollow
kindred nacelle
Already clear f300 and still at level 13 armillary. It looks like f2p will not be able to reach armillary lv 17 this week.
lethal willow
Should I change anything?
lapis vine
even at L, i got to 300
whole bloom
What is the Solise team? Thinking of getting 1 copy of her lol
brittle wraith
What is the Solise team? Thinking of getting 1 copy of her lol
read pins, wolise cycle
whole bloom
All right ty
unique hollow
what do you use solsie cycle vs ?
i cant see how twins without furn can frontline anything really
brittle wraith
what do you use solsie cycle vs ?
pale sparrow
Where do I find the pins?
brittle wraith
Where do I find the pins?
if u r using phone swipe left
unique hollow
gonna go back to scarlet desira talene rowan twins.
weird thing, works for others wont work for me
cosmic stirrup
They're tanking for me just fine
brittle wraith
unique hollow
insta kill
cosmic stirrup
But my beacons are also lvl 55
low heath
Anyone else feel like dims are noticeably weaker this season? It might be copium but the change to Merlin could be a significant factor
chilly hull
Can't really tell, I've always been held back by my other teams way too fast
signal sphinx
tl;dr trift has always had me struggle since the rules are so different and my box is so babeh
timid shuttle
Since ur a spender. You'll definitely accrue a decent box by the end of the season meaning getting close to 450 if not there should be more than achievable
signal sphinx
there is more time left in this season than ive already spent so far. ill just build up afk (and more than likely feedback) rewards then?
timid shuttle
How far have u made it so far and what level are ur 3 main beacons?
signal sphinx
150 and uhh 45? w.e lvl 10 arm cap is, near it. mage tank sup, got the good guide talents. mostly just itchy for the visible sg and stone rewards lol
timid shuttle
What teams are you currently using?
I remember my first trift when I was around ur level. Had to do pretty budget teams since my roster wasn't that built out yet at the time either
signal sphinx
150 starts 3 teams so i havent even formally built. box?
timid shuttle
Show box by tank supp mage
signal sphinx
k gimme a few, ill dm
gaunt sage
green gate
Finally
lavish magnet
Just hit 300
Show teams
fleet pike
slow barn
timid shuttle
fleet pike
How was Joan in Ainz?
timid shuttle
Performed quite well. Ainz was actually my most stable team
tidal yacht
Hard to believe , I mean, maybe, due to low desira, but scarlet definitely the most stable
I should try my elite aw flora too 
kind mural
is anyone getting juice from these?
chilly hull
Juice is pretty good value
whole bloom
I need so many e30s so im getting the yellow engraving things
green gate
is anyone getting juice from these?
Im always going for juice
unborn shoal
hardstuck at floor 96 T_T
unborn shoal
i did, it isnt helping 
eternal mesa
show teams
unborn shoal
i guess my heroes are just too shit
i have the "mage" team in the guide except the pirate dude
but just get destroyed
obtuse charm
Only use Tank/Sus/Mage
Aezizh/Ferael is just a no
and I'd take out Twins/Rowan if you don't have normal Ezizh
obtuse charm
Try using Atalene instead of Thoran perhaps
are you only leveling 3 beacons as well?
timid shuttle
If ur going to follow the guide then follow it exactly
green gate
Only lvl 3 classes
timid shuttle
Beacons should look like this
unborn shoal
why do i get the message that u cant have more than a 3 level gap
ok i dumb
i dont see how this will help me though unless having spare resources makes me more powerful
lime badger
Beacons get more expensive as you go. Best to start saving early
Only spend on what you need, if you're following the mage comps the other beacons are doing nothing for you
unborn shoal
im on a "trivial" battle and still losing 
eternal mesa
he can reset them for free tho
green gate
Just listen to what jane and classy are saying
eternal mesa
so idk how would it help if everything maxed
obtuse charm
im on a "trivial" battle and still losing <:morrowcry:880561370213539870>
Exit your current battle
and only level 3 beacons
Tank/Sus/Mage
unborn shoal
yup did that
obtuse charm
Lvl 1 Undying Afterglow/Fusion Shield/Heaven's Grace/Deity's Deliverance/Faith A...
And also this
@unborn shoal
only this
don't level them further
unborn shoal
only have afterflow and fusion shield
obtuse charm
Leveling the ones I listed is fine if your beacon leveling doesn't cost you the secondary currency
Once you've fixed beacons Grez Atalene Daimon Silas Oden should do good
I'd put in heroes like Sonja/Mishka as well
unborn shoal
maybe i just need to wait til my armillary is level 5
just 0 chance with any configuration atm
timid shuttle
Can I see this screen from you
green gate
Thats normal
unborn shoal
im already out of attempts
i think my armillary is just too low
guess i need to be patient
timid shuttle
You used 7/7 runs already?
unborn shoal
ye was trying out different heroes
quasi sapphire
U can use Sonja instead of Talene
I have a 309 talene
green gate
Even better
quasi sapphire
shoud that replace my scar team?
low heath
I lack hard data, but my interpolation suggests beating floor 191 unlocks lvl 17 badges.
low heath
Armillary lvl 13 gives lvl 17 badges
You kinda missed the point
If u start on floor 1 with armillary 13, u don't get lvl 17 badge
Badge is determined by both armillary AND floor
green gate
U cant get lvl 17 badges before getting armillary lvl 13 so wheres the point
I get it now
Yesterday is was at 288 without lvl 17 badges btw before i got to armillary 13
Just wait
cobalt harness
Any guides for badges on grand hunt yet? 🙂
foggy thicket
whats temportal rift im stuck in f20
unique hollow
@scenic snow do we have new grand hunt formation yet ?
eternal mesa
floor 20
winged plinth
sage dagger
tame kettle
low heath
whats temportal rift im stuck in f20
If you need help, post your roster
uncut prism
The desira team is struggling, im hardstuck now.
uncut prism
scenic snow
<@817740750745108491> do we have new grand hunt formation yet ?
i cant get the scar comp to work
unique hollow
i cant get the scar comp to work <:lorsob:663287062249734173>
badge issues ?
scenic snow
i cap out at 29b 
heavy skiff
Any 30b boss comp without woke brutus?
neon gorge
sour shoal
Thx
merry skiff
I thought the herbs don't stack?
timid shuttle
I think it's best to wait in that case. Took me until lvl17 badges to get to 300 this week
sour shoal
What’s ur beacon lvl btw
timid shuttle
Oh, well I prob have higher beacons than u but yet
neon gorge
What’s ur beacon lvl btw
56/63/0/9/56
timid shuttle
Just aim to get 300 asap obv
sour shoal
Oh much higher than mine
neon gorge
I thought the herbs don't stack?
wait u r right, I didn’t read last part. gonna try smth different
neon gorge
Oh much higher than mine
I have to reset warrior tho, that was for saurus comp. I think fearsome alliance would be good too
sour shoal
Yeah I have one point in fearsome alliance
Also if the herb doesn’t stack that means the crystal shouldn’t stack?
timid shuttle
Specifically for grand hunt testing
3 beacons is still the way to go for floor pushing
neon gorge
nope, mishka did better than saurus
neon gorge
Also if the herb doesn’t stack that means the crystal shouldn’t stack?
yea,
if u have lorsan 9f, I think it’ll be better to give him crystal and smth different for mishka
timid shuttle
A solise does her job at L
Well idk about grand hunt
But in normal floors
She's insane
kind eagle
Do stage between 250-300 get significantly harder compared to 200-250? I climbed to 250 quite easy with badge lvl 14 but now it’s quite tough for me even with badge lvl 17
soft palm
Do stage between 250-300 get significantly harder compared to 200-250? I climbed...
Some of the comp are horrible if you don't have engraved hero
green gate
Do stage between 250-300 get significantly harder compared to 200-250? I climbed...
At 270ish it gets harder imo
kind eagle
At 270ish it gets harder imo
Yeah, I'm at nearly 290 and seem can't pass it with no energy at the start
quasi turtle
What are your comps?
austere dagger
Someone knows which badges to take for the grand hunt?
halcyon wind
Any recommendations for my alt? A bit over 200, casually push on it but any improvements are always good
acoustic rampart
Hey, any hero I can use instead of Asolise in the grand hunt second team ?
eternal mesa
Any recommendations for my alt? A bit over 200, casually push on it but any impr...
bro has 10 times better alt than my main
neon gorge
Any tips and good lineups for this?
pins
halcyon wind
bro has 10 times better alt than my main <:badensweat:733092948433961031>
Lmao I’ve had it for a long time and it can be better than my main at times 😂 I’ve just played very differently on it so I don’t have everything meta or finished. Like those E+ Twins are killing me
icy parcel
what do i do
neon gorge
what do i do
ur main 3 beacons
icy parcel
ur main 3 beacons
sup mage tank? im thinking for boss its different
eternal mesa
sup mage tank? im thinking for boss its different
what ever classes you run
eternal mesa
silas maybe
icy parcel
thanks
neon gorge
sup mage tank? im thinking for boss its different
yea, rangars aren’t use this gh ( so far, meta might change near the end)
unique hollow
gorvo is such a hateful hero on trift
can we have a petition to delete him from game
lime badger
maybe you should build Gorvo to fight himself
unique hollow
from what floor do you have 17 badges ?
unique hollow
you need 13 but if you aren't at a high enough floor you cant equip them
woeful fjord
ah
unique hollow
at the start of the run
so 251 you do have 17 badges
anyone got a suggestion against t2
nothing works, isabella always kills ainz, no matter of its joa or merlin, desira always shields her enough from dmg
atomic imp
Maybe the cycle comp can deal with it? It’s really hard to survive Isa’s ult even with Merlin sometimes
lime badger
gbs won't kill it?
Isa can be painful but sometimes gb vs gb works, I have a different team tho
atomic imp
Oden can stop her from ulting (sometimes) but he doesn’t have him slotted
glossy warren
do we know about optimal badges for the grand hunt?
unique hollow
cycle cant deal with it
not enough dmg, cant outheal once isa starts ulti
gb wont kill it, not enough dmg to burst her, it becomes a battle of attrition, cause my desira and silas ult and get to live, and enemy desira ults and everyone gets to live, especially isa
lime badger
Makes sense, I have Oden in my gb team and my dim team has arthur and joa, no anoki and either of those have a chance against isa
low heath
gb's generally work if u get some luck with grez and oden juggling + energy drain, but u don't run oden
their juggling ignores TY so it's actually viable "control"
dapper plinth
anyone got a suggestion against t2
Tbh id reorganize some teams however I don’t know what hero’s you have built. For mage, support fort builds like I see you using teams usually revolve around scarlet, ainz and a gb team for 3 waves. Scarlet team in position order scarlet, rowan, twins, desira, ezizh. Ainz team, albedo, Joan. Ainz, Merlin, mortas. Gb team grez, hodge, oden, Silas, haelus.
dapper plinth
Depends on investment for all of those of course. Oden for tasi maybe
dapper plinth
My oden survived when I ran mage. I still run mage on my friends account cause it isn’t as developed as mine
I’m running warrior, support cele which is very different
unique hollow
ill wait for beacons i guess
its just annoying
same teams everytime in this floor
dapper plinth
I’m running 4 waves with just the 15 heros atm. Abrutus, haelus, Merlin trio. Athane, Alna and talene trio, asolise, Joan and frampton trio. Kren, twins, Anasta and desira. Silas moves around to teams as my sub
unique hollow
incredible
dapper plinth
But there are 2 fight options, both sides arnt the same. Even if the other side is the harder power wise the hero combination might be easier for you if your encountering problems with that one specifically
unique hollow
yea, i know, just trash
nothing works right
you need 6 7 heroes for this
there is no 5
uncut prism
anyone got a suggestion against t2
Avoid desira isa
I usually use scarlet cycle, gb is like 50/50 on win or wipe.
unique hollow
cant really avoid since the other option is equally annoying and its so often
violet walrus
echo depot
was asked to come here for help, i just finished floor 100 and starting to face 2 teams, wanna ask for help for teambuilding
echo depot
grez still dont have his 9f tho, still working on it, thats ok?
oki got it
i will try pushing tonight, lemme finish pushing gb tower a bit
echo depot
yep is working, just need to be patient, tysm 
acoustic rampart
When we lose we restart on the same floor ?
green gate
When we lose we restart on the same floor ?
Yes
acoustic rampart
Ok cool thank you !
small finch
My scarlet team feels to inconsistent idk what I’m doing wrong should I switch it to team rift 2 with aw solice ?
green gate
My scarlet team feels to inconsistent idk what I’m doing wrong should I switch i...
Yes AwSolise is better
small finch
With that team Iv got there ?
green gate
With that team Iv got there ?
Yes
waxen hinge
Afaik sonja is better
small finch
Best in slot @green gate
green gate
Thats what im using and it works pretty good so far
small finch
I think you gave me that team
And well it works for me more consistently then scarlet was
green gate
Normal Talene
obtuse charm
and oden is paper
Oden is great if you can keep him alive
I'm using Oden with f2p beacons at 250+ and he's doing fine for me
if you get him to survive he can do very good dmg
unique hollow
big IF
obtuse charm
Not that big of an if tbh, for me Grezhul is usually the one that dies even with good positioning
atomic imp
for me it’s usually Silas getting blown up by Peggy or something after he jumps frontline with his ult
unique hollow
ye grez is also trash
just that if you depend on oden
and anything that targets backline, he will just die
low heath
eternal mesa
daimon nice too
unique hollow
OK
red turret
just that if you depend on oden
My oden was sometimes doing better frontline then daimon
unique hollow
depends, at least its not paper
eternal mesa
he tanks atha for me
unique hollow
i tried frontline
he dies 10 seconds later
that was the highest peak of his life
red turret
i tried frontline
I’m not saying always use him frontline just at times he does better than daimon sometimes
unique hollow
he does more dmg when he lives yea
daimon , can be lacking dmg especially if they have heal or mitigation
red turret
I love my 30960 oden he bodies stuff for me all the time 😬
unique hollow
thats why he dies so much
red turret
thats why he dies so much
Maybe just try more dodging 
green gate
This asta guy should change his to Alnaless 
obtuse charm
for someone that uses oden, not sure who is trolling here
I'm not sure what Lilith did to your Oden but he works fine everyone else 
eternal mesa
yeah i figured it out mf
eternal mesa
This asta guy should change his to Alnaless <:khasosrun:753008852093501440>
even i have her 309
green gate
Dreaf > Asta
low heath
for someone that uses oden, not sure who is trolling here
I'm floor 297 with Oden at 31/31/31. just because it doesn't work for you doesn't mean we're trolling
red turret
Dreaf > Asta <:khasosrun:753008852093501440>
Dreaf beats AThane in 1v1s
green gate
Dreaf beats AThane in 1v1s
Its Dreaf
red turret
True dreaf solos afk arena
green gate
But for real Oden is really good imo
green gate
Just whale him its Oden 
eternal mesa
i need 9f mishka first
unique hollow
I'm floor 297 with Oden at 31/31/31. just because it doesn't work for you doesn'...
i know its just banter, simply cant find a place for him to live with ~
low heath
13 badges? shouldn't you have 14 or 17?
I am struggling quite a bit tbh. 270 to 297 has been quite a slog
I'd definitely be at 300 if I had Swolise
but for now I'm just waiting till week's end
atomic imp
I’m at 265 and my cycle team eats up the most of my retries, but my twins and ezizh are both e+
it’s mostly spending lots of retries on the same stage though. Having steady prep would help a lot
eternal mesa
I’m at 265 and my cycle team eats up the most of my retries, but my twins and ez...
cycle with?
scar or solise
atomic imp
Solise and Sonja
I might try talene when 20 badges unlock
The only issue is surviving the first 5 seconds usually
eternal mesa
Solise and Sonja
if twins die front solise and sonja can tank
unique hollow
L solsie is a bit iffy
on front
but usually playing with rowan 35 for pot makes it all possible
pos 3 5
yea gt si 35
value
only 254
no more retries
yea burned too much early on
we will get it eventually
next week 300
unique hollow
eternal mesa
i will get it too
i will push on sunday before reset to 250 at least and i can work with that
atomic imp
Are there any enemies that Desira 9f makes a big difference against?
lunar dragon
What about the badges? Simply all in supports, mages and tanks?
waxen hinge
Imagine not at 301 already <:khasosrun:753008852093501440>
My pleb ass at 287
quasi sapphire
What about the badges? Simply all in supports, mages and tanks?
should be one in fearsome alliance
neon gorge
What about the badges? Simply all in supports, mages and tanks?
that run was with only mage/supp/tank
timid shuttle
Badge addiction not used anymore?
neon gorge
Badge addiction not used anymore?
it isn’t unlocked yet I think
timid shuttle
Oh
vagrant phoenix
What works as a Haelus replacement for grand hunt?
grave lark
Haelus
vagrant phoenix
Lit
timid shuttle
30960
vagrant phoenix
Okay then what teams can u do without haelus 💀
timid shuttle
Wait for the last few days
No reason in attacking now unless u wanna waste diamonds testing
vagrant phoenix
I’m not planning on going now, just want to know what I might have to work with
timid shuttle
Nobody knows yet on what the alternate comps are
Unless they do now
Idk
I'm waiting
vagrant phoenix
Aight
timid shuttle
U can tell since I didn't even know badge addiction was locked behind progression 
neon gorge
There’s an alt comp in top200 with hodgkin/Joan instead of lorsan/healus
or do warrior/tank/sup using Anasta instead of scarlet for boss, but needs fat Anasta for it I think
lunar dragon
Thanks. I put one point into fearsome alliance, because why not 👀
24B with L ASolise
However, I'm only at F200 for something like a month lol
9 days left
Anyways, thanks again
eternal mesa
should be easier with larry lvl13 correct?
green gate
Should be
eternal mesa
crisp radish
I’m not planning on going now, just want to know what I might have to work with
skreg
eternal mesa
so any f2p grand hunt teams yet
vagrant phoenix
There’s an alt comp in top200 with hodgkin/Joan instead of lorsan/healus
this is all that seems to have been found
green gate
<@465574788841078804> gib badges pls
U really wanna see my whale badges ?
eternal mesa
U really wanna see my whale badges ?
yes 
green gate
yes <:babasmugga:987530405735444500>
eternal mesa
for grand hunt
green gate
for grand hunt <:floradeadeyes:726932146727682109>
I used evo's badges
eternal mesa
@neon gorge gib badges for grand hunt
green gate
@eternal mesa
green gate
or do warrior/tank/sup using Anasta instead of scarlet for boss, but needs fat A...
@eternal mesa
green gate
There’s an alt comp in top200 with hodgkin/Joan instead of lorsan/healus
@eternal mesa are u blind
green gate
cyan cape
What are the beacons I should be upgrading again?
timid shuttle
What are the beacons I should be upgrading again?
Check the write up on the pins
cyan cape
👍
green gate
what is ezio min investment for the agi team and like TS?
Iirc its 209
But not 100% sure
lapis vine
damn 😦
eternal mesa
what badge for joa btw
chilly hull
Urgh my Scarlet team is so bad
chilly hull
what badge for joa btw
I use Call but Divine or Cursebreaker prob also good
tacit furnace
Comp guide?
neon gorge
.
this isn’t a guide, but best thing I’ve got so far. u should wait till last day for others’ testing
tacit furnace
Okok
woeful fjord
Comp guide?
Comp ym
neon gorge
Replacement for Haelus and Solise?
Probably rowan for solise and hodgkin/joan for healus/lorsan
rugged summit
anyone have the whale comps for grand hunt?
neon gorge
anyone have the whale comps for grand hunt?
Leaderboard 
rugged summit
Leaderboard <:elishrug:752275499316674611>
badges
silent garden
I should use my free runs and rewinds this week, and also hopefully hit level 13 armillary for raised badge level cap to 17.
I can make the push to floor 200+.
silent garden
Yes Lilith fixed the rewind button!
silent garden
It'll take some time waiting till level 17 armillary for max badge level of 20, and being able to have 4 full teams.
What substitutes for Eironn 5-pull? Or keep using the team?
kindred nacelle
Finished floor 200 though.
Mage, celerity, support and tank?
silent garden
Running mages, rangers, and supports.
I don't feel confident about using Mishka as she's not yet 9F and e60.
eternal mesa
but you are using tanks???
slow barn
wont they die in like 5 seconds
silent garden
Yes unfortunately, and the 5 class beacons being badly designed, we need a resonance system.
white sphinx
Just don't use tanks?
Seems like a simple fix yet you continue to sabotage yourself
Big troll
vague sinew
Wow 3 e80
woeful fjord
Finished floor 200 though.
Good old Ranger, Tank, mage Support run
silent garden
Pretty sure Albedo is needed for Ainz, no?
It's in her signature item that boosts ATK.
Team #1 is Belinda & Isabella, team #2 is the good 'ol Albedo & Ainz team (with Merlin), team #3 is Eironn 5-pull.
woeful fjord
U're special