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Its more full when their is a spicy arguement
or anyone from other places in questions wnd afk help
it is a massive server
none from the meme depsrtment or off topic
What kinda spice?
mean ad they dont overlap usually
Lore debates, intense ones
Is there any debate even left anymore? We kinda know everything.
There are still debates
@dark heath not surprising as a lot of players dont pay attention to the lores. Heck some dont event read dialog in voyage of wonders to solve the puzzle
People who dont know it all ask a question, two people with different answers, start talking about whos is right, chaos
That's sad, man.
Out of all the other channels lore is where im at the most
Any different answers that you know of?
I just started and I only know this chat.
There is only few of us in here but quality is better than quantity
True, true.
Does anyone have any idea what talene looked like before becoming a celestial?
She was an obsidian flinch right? She was described as having a transformation scene in her story.
@dark heath in cn lore, she was described as a bird before merging and become human like
Oh, so she was basically a fire bird?
birb
very smol and fragile
probably not anthro also or hot
That's even more sad considering how hard it must be to carry her dead mother on basically a sucide mission.
Then, the hovering sparrow spirits screamed together, they flew towards Tarin, surrounded her in the middle, and then plunged into her body one after another, blending into her blood. Tarin's body began to change drastically, her claws and beaks began to fade, and her wings began to expand. In the end, she took on a completely new form: a humanoid with fiery red wings.
In English it's kinda ambiguous to what she looked like before but she basically become a celestial by getting the power of the sun or something.
it said phoenix
pretty sure
it also described her becoming Hot 
that lore checks out for me
Do you guys ever find it interesting how Graveborns are basically immortal. Stuck between life and death, they can’t live and at the same time they can’t die since they’re already “dead”
That's their main goal.
they probably suffer immensely but either too absorbed by a goal or too insane to care
the few that do are childeren
like daimon
Like Isabella, Silvia and daimon?
idk if the other two suffer
didnt Read lore for them
but i did for daimon and his voicelines also suggest it
They are probably in a lot of pain
silas is too insane to care
Silvia is a killer but she is about as old as Isabella.
Theowyn is just sad though.
Well he was sick his entire life so can't tell if he is talking about before his death or after.
shem grifed so bad she died
and returns in the same state forever
maybe its tied to the reason they died and "kept them going"
baden,thoran and grez seem fine with rhe life of the undead
they're men tho ad in dewrh is expected
but the others are mothers,chidleren and sisters
Baden and fareal were changed into GB by someone or something.
gb is just the hub for greedy men with strong ambitions and misrable souls that couldn't let go
Really sad
oden was re animated by magic
I wonder what her face looks like
maybe its that
Niryu choose his own fate and changed shem.
phone is dying
Thoran and grez were betrayed and killed.
Cya
Hold up
Btw, is Hogan like older than Hendrick? In the new voyage Hendrick sounded like he learned warfare from Hogan.
If Hogan is really old, then oh boy did he age fine like a delicious wine.
This could be the case
He looks like hes in his 30s or 40s
Hendrik probably 60s?
Either hogan was a commander quite young or hendrik learned late
Little late but there is one. It was the first one I saw in #memes
Iirc one of those were steroids and dead childrens lol
It seems like hogan, morves and Angelo sprites are of them when they were younger. In present time Hogan is retired, Angelo is a father and morves, I have idea, probably dead.
They all look like that in present
Same for all the heroes
Everything in the game is present tense
So Hogan is still probably older than Hendrick, h is probably in his 40 or 50 since Gwen is still a teen and as old as Peggy. Hogan on the other hand might be in his 60 or even 70.
Gwen and peggy arent the same age, and hogan isnt older then hendrik i would assume
Gwen is Peggy's childhood friend that is always busy.
Yes but they are not the same age
@dark heath hogan didn't retire. It was his commander that did
Gwen is 16 and peggy idk but peggy is defo not 16
Maybe around the same age, not exactly the same age.
Yeah but Hogan did too, it was in a previous voyage but he was remembering his past glory with morves.
Doesnt mean he retired
All the heroes are as they are presently
Hogan is still as he is
Its not his past self
Its just him
She act like a 12 year old but should could be a bratty Petit teen. I mean Rowan is the same age as her and I don't think a 12 year old became a master tradesman.
Lore wise, Hogan was the one who taught us to fight (play the game in the tutorial)
So I assume he is not retired
Yeah, exactly but he might just be an instructor now.
Not a commander who fights in the front lines.
He soon won't be.
Him being young and successful is his key feature as a character, also peggy is definitely no past 14
Then Gwen is a really tall 14 year old.
Lilith dont kill off playable characters
No gwens confirmed age is 16
Like estrilda who is like 15.
What
What
Estrilda is confirmed 23
Where are these confirmations coming from?
He is legendary hero. I too replied by a joke.
Really?
A person called belinda who used to confirmed ages
But my alt does
Well 14 and 16 is close enough to be childhood friends.
Woh man, chicken better be a phoenix then.
@civic geyser what about all the rat 😆
Regardless of Peggy's age, I def won't put Hogan at 60
Was she a part of lilith lore team or something?
2 years what the fuck
Vurk ain't dying from spider queens any time soon. Old age is gonna get him first
Im not sure but she definitely is some sort of staff i think
I believe Hendrik and Hogan just fought together and shared a beer with some warfare knowledge
I mean he does have to be older than Hogan to teach him, but I guess it could be that Hendrick was a soldier before Hogan but didn't find his style until he met Hogan.
Like Hogan did with Morvus
Ankhira is gonna be pissed of af
No he doesnt hogan could of had older soilders
Life span of a goat is 18 years
Rip nemora
Rip
Not even old enough to vote in wilder elections.
Imagine Nemora finally turning 18 and doing all the adult stuff hurray
Then literally dying the next day
Im convinced wilders are a democracy who have a small council that run the the place
I assume arden is one of the key figures in wilder society
Of course it is.
I mean its not confirmed but it most likely is
@bleak hull in the background story for dimensional faction that i posted yesterday, it seems like a few w elders make all the big decision for the wilders
Curious who the other old people running the place are
Ahh thank you for that
Could nemora and lorsan be one?
Or atleast involved
I think they're more of juniors at least
They probably will replace arden in the future. Both are his outstanding students
They are in the council, but are not granted the rank of master
Lorsan is his succesor but nemora will probably be an elder aswell
I would think respen is like a permanent leader for them.
Ulmus would probably be in there too but he's not exactly mobile
Nah he was accepted as a wilder
Hes not true wilder blood
But the wilders took him in
Isn't he a force of nature?
Yeah, he is an elemental guardian, so he has his own duty
Yes hes the elemental of wind but not a wilder leader
He has his own duties to attend to
As consolation though the nearby town absolutely reveres him
Makes sense.
Yeah, but they did reject him didn't they that one time?
He seems like the mysterious type who enjoys his own space
Which reminds me. We have two elemental guardians at the moment, you think we'll be able to see the remaining few eventually?
He is like Fawkes and drez.
Definitely.
Fawkes isnt really mysterious he just doesn't talk much
I think ik where the fire elemental lives
Fawkes definitely isn't into purple succubi that's for sure
Does anyone knows what his snake arm is?
At the bastion of elements theres a volcano that would suit a fire elemental
A necro parasite
He appears to not be into anyone for that matter.
So he is half lb half GB?
Makes sense.
He learned how to restrain it and stop it taking over himself which is probably how he can with stand mehira
A quick question: What i really want to know is how strong are the hypogeans to become a threat to a LITERAL celestial. Someone who resides and controls ALL the giant plasma balls in great beyond of the universe???!
And im talking about the new hero ofc
Yes hypos are basically evil gods
Doesn't Mahira basically invokes carnal desires that people already possess and amplify them? Like she isn't literally controlling anyone.
Some are godlike and some are less dangerous then others
She manipulates them through charm, desires and lies
I mean, Zolrath is one of those threats
They are literally gods too, just evil.
He and Orthros are in battle for all eternity
Exactly, and Fawkes just don't have these desires anymore it seems.
In some peoples eyes shes the goddess of love when really shes the unholy succubus of manipulation
Definitely not the playable ones we have. While they are strong they have smaller form and seem to be taken out easier.
Probably the big dudes off screen, like the twin terrors in true form instead of possessing Lucretia, or Ouldous
Whatever the dudes name is
The in game ones are the more powerful hypos
Well I mean in a way I guess that would make sense, but so far the scopes of their godlihood and other celestials seem to be earthly 😅 rather than galactic.... which makes me wonder... how the hell did dura NOT know about her before she discovered Morael in the first place
Okay that makes more sense
That could kill a god
Morael existed in the first place*
They use less powerful hypos to conquest mortals
Who is oudus?
The guy who corrupted Khazard
And when did we see the twin terror's true form?
Ah, I see.
I see em..
Shes changes form depending on which twins power shes using which is very cool feature in my opinion
Wait, how do we already know about morael story already? Is is released?
Shes confirmed
Wait what.
Look carefully at her game play she changes form
In her ult i think
Her hair turns more pink and she turns more spikey
Oh yeah, purple and pink.
Really cool
I always thought certain Hypogeans exist to directly counter celestial counterparts
Like titans to greek gods
Also the time guys can control time, that does sounds op.
They are
They each have a counterpart.
Probably some of the strongest lore wise and also meta ingame
Mehira doesnt aim for celestials mostly
Mortals are easier to manipulate
She does, it's alna.
Since when
Not lore wise, but rather thematically.
Her aim is mortals and more specifically fawkes
Her counter would probably be Kane
Isnt kane a hypo tho
Yeah he is
Also hes in a different realm
I mean Alna's counter
Oooh
Too bad Kane ain't released yet.
But he does exist as an actual enemy in a Peak of Time
How about mehira and flora?
Mehira doesnt accosiate with celestials that much
They seems like they could oppose each other, one purity,the other obsession.
I think the hypos counter with mortals
Like Ezizh with Tasi
Ezizh is with athalia.
Khazard-respen
Mezoth is an odd ball.
Mortas might have a counter soon since he interacted with a ton of people
They hardly accosiate with eachother
Mezoth and.... idk a salad?
Isn't he with talene?
I dont think they counter
They are in the store together so I thought they might be opposing each other like the time guys.
Lilith adding the time guys strengthen my believes even more.
Who could mortas interact with? His story happened in the past like thounsands of years ago, so the one he can have a story with will be narrowed down a lot.
He could interact with talene. They both are similar.
I find it interesting how zolrath is able to alter the outcome of certain timelines yet orthros has to deal with the hypothetical existence of "fate or destiny"
Yeah hypogeans have bs powers
@uneven echo same thought, that is what i just said like an hour ago
That's the difference between law and chaos, orthros can do that too.
Alright maybe,
Athalia Vs ezizh both carriers of their ideology
The time guys
Twins Vs mehira, young and peace Vs mature and chaos
Mortas Vs talene for immortality being a main thing(vampire Vs phoenix)
Lucretia and her husband for obvious reasons
Alna and Kane
Khazard Vs Wu Kong no idea I just like the though
And lastly flora Vs mezoth for patience Vs indulgence.
Even if there isn't any lore here they do seem similar in thematics.
So it still seems like they come in a pair atleast.
Oh let's try to find some diametric opposites with these heroes philosophy. (Lucretia and zaphrael ; emotion vs reason)
Yeah, some celestials and hypogeans seem to be counterpart of each other, but your list look a little forced. There are still new celepogean heroes to be added
Mortas and talene for immortality forced and immortality gained.
Well we can always change the list.
I think you mean, born with immortality for talene.
And lucretia is just a host, the hypogean that possess her is the twins of terror, and they look like a counterpart of Elijah and lilah
But right now this seems pretty plausible to me atleast.
Yeah, that makes more sense.
Also ezizh and tasi will make more sense
I was trying to make a thematic comparison. Athalia would do anything for celestials and ezizh would do the same for hypogeons.
Wu Kong (considering his story in the journey to west book) seems to give a theme of discipline
Not sure what his opposite would be
You know mehira seems to be a mixed bag of both lust and gluttony. And I mean gluttony in the fact that she is always craving for a challenge.
True, that's why I am finding it hard to compare her with either the twins or flora. Then the others would become a pair.
Mehira is designed after a succubus, right?
Yeah, but her story is quite different. She seems to like challenges more than her actual powers.
Oh, more like twins prefer peace and mehira prefers discord.
Honestly, I can see why its a little hard to find a parallel for the twins. They don't seem to be hated by many even in front of hypogeans.
Yeah, true.
Who knows maybe the next hypogean could be someone that prefers conflict over peace
Maybe, but unlikely.
Well, mezoth seems more like an opposite to flora now.
Oh yeah, Flora seems to be thematic to altruistic behavior. While mezoth is more concerned with the self.
Exactly.
New hero looks like a gb. I guess it is either captain hodgkin or a siren
Didn't we just make it clear that it is mezoth?
But who knows, it could be a new hero.
Who is Hodgkin again?
@dark heath why mezoth? These lines from dolly is like teaser for upcoming hero in next patch
@dark heath he is a gb commander of the dead tide fleet. A pirate before turning gb.
Any stories of him in lore?
If you read his backstory it describes a situation mezoth went through much like what dolly says in which sailors make sacrifices to prevent disasters. Especially the mist part.. Although who knows, what you said could be true.
@dark heath there is a section about the dead tide in the original of the gb lore
This.
Where is it?
@uneven echo but as i said, these lines from dolly are mostly for new heroes
@dark heath it was released on the official fb page. You can google search original of gb. I think some of the fan page website also has it
Aight, will look into that.
But that stories have too much similarities with the mezoth story.
Maybe mezoth created the GB?
@dark heath if you want, i can give you the link to my doc file for the gb lore
Im also a bit curious about the futures of all these heroes, based on the union story of lucretia and zaphrael im only assuming that the majority of the celepogeans are dead can anyone confirm or deconfirm this?
Also if you read about the lore of the siren here, you can see how they match what dolly says
I think they are more like dorment for now.
Maybe mezoth IS a siren!
Thats a riot XD
Lol why mezoth 😆
I mean it would even create more similarities with flora.
Yeah but like... I mean I guess he is pretty thicc 😂
I mean, what kinda man not want THAT.
Honestly I would question their morality.
Still going withh this debacle?
Atleast I find it fun.
Actually wait seeing the new hero tease by Dolly, I hope there's connection to Mezoth or Torne
Trying to find contrast between the celestials and hypogeans, turns out to be a bit more complicated than expected.
It still makes sense.
I don't think all of them are meant to contrast each other, especially since there are many yet to be released and many in the background lore
Kinda.
There are still some thematics similarities and the fact that they are still same numbers of both factions.
@civic geyser i see very low chance of them having connection to the upcoming hero 😆
Why do the sailor characters always have to be so distant maaaan
Nara technically has relation to Seirus and possibly Saurus but other than that she's more distant than other gb
Makes sense since she's pretty much a mafia leader
Wait, how is she related to seirus?
@dark heath she ventured to azure cove or jade reef bay, as more correctly translated, in order to kidnap some wilders for her slave trading network, but was spotted by seirus and killed
Oh, so he was the one who killed her!
Hmm... I wonder if drez has any affiliation with the quicksand claws from the union story of atandra and satrana? Maybe the title as quicksand reculse given to him was just a coincidence.
And jade reef bay is right there above the bastion of elements
Man, I should read these chapters too.
Naw, they aren't related at all.
Yeah I should've figured, just trying to make things more complicated than needed
It's not a big deal, but it was nice to point out. Maybe drez tried to copy them but still retained his morality?
That's comparison makes me think that maybe drez made his own title,.or maybe other people see him as just as vicious as them..
Moving back to the new hero. I wonder if morael is an unintentional by- product of either annih or dura from the dying nebula. (If she was made by them at all) It would sort of explain how dura didn't expect to find her drifting in the cosmos. Or perhaps dura just isn't good at keeping track of all her "children" 😂
Didn't the post in the Community Forum say something like "she was born in / from a dying nebula"? Reminds me a bit of Flora's story. Like a flower dared to bloom in frigid winter, more plants followed, and then BOOM Flora was born
So it's like an energy thing? Idk
@uneven echo we probably have to wait for her sister's lore, if audrae ever to be released, to make more guess about her.
The first time i read morael lore, i was like what tf was her lore about. Gotta read it the second time to make sense of it
I haven't heard of this audrae person, where is she mentioned?
The Void Realm was very intriguing though. Hope there will be more details about it
@uneven echo she is morael's sister. It was mentioned in morael lore
I would think that a flower and nebula have quite a scalar difference, but I see you point. The thematic is there.
Hm, Talene was a frekaking bird
Othros was a clock
And Zaph was a normal dude
Can't wait for my local rock to turn into a waifu for good behavior
I mean four out of nine original is good enough, right?
I think athalia, twins, alna and Wu Kong were just made.
Nevermind Wu Kong was a normal monke.
So only three original gods.
How do you guy think of Kane? He was originally a human, and from other heroes lores, it seems the only way for a human to turn into hypogean is to be a host for an actual hypogean. Is my theory plausible?
I think so, every other thing that wasn't a hypogeons before needs to have an actual hypogeon attached to them to become an hypogeon.
I read mortas story again and tbh, it's kinda funny how he tricked even a hypogeons so easily.
Any idea who the original hypogeon of mortas was?
We don't know how the original hypogesn looks like and probably never will be.
Who knows maybe an animated series for afk arena might show em.
Im happy with any animated clip that contains canon lore 😻
Just hope lilith will make some animated clips for the union stories. Most union lores would make a fantastic video.
Except for silas and izold union story 😆
Definitely.
Hey, I would watch that.
I wanna see Izold's human form
I guess he would probably resembles hogan or hendrik
Not really, he could be just pretty skinny. The point of the experiment was to buff him up wasn't it? Besides the immortal thing.
Never mind. I am an idiot.
Speaking of izold, how long would he last on the battlefield? Without being refueled constantly by silas, he looks like an easy enemy to deal with on the battlefield
And unless the glass on his body is made of special material, his enemy can aim for his head to kill him
Just read theowyn's backstory and feel so bad for her :((
That would be the first one I would watch if they release a bunch of clips. XD
Show me that dark stuff and experiments
True. Ingame they make him seem like one hell of a beast, and he kinda is.
But in reality, stitched parts, chemicals, and glass seems like a recipe for disaster.
It is kind of sad
True. The moment one would slash him with a sword he's done for
late to this, but maulers are definitely not on the same side as the hypos
in ankhira's lore it talks about even the hypos avoid the arachin's nests
Kinda, but their goals coincides sometimes.
Maulers are more of a chaotic neutral
How about others?
Celestial are lawful good
Hypogeons are lawful evil
Lb are lawful neutral
Wilders are true neutrals
Maulers are chaotic neutral
GB are lawful evil.
Well most, there are a lot of exceptions
i would say that its generally tough to apply alignment to entire factions
Individuals are very diverse
Like the forsaken family ie. Daimon, Shemira, and Niru are also lawful neut
They just guide souls and be a happy family
GB are either TN or LN, or some form of neutral/lawful evil
With a few chaotic evils maybe
true
Torne and Izold
a lot of LBs are LN, but ceci is LE, and a lot are LN
my first thought would be nara
Maybe
The elementals are probably true neutral
Seirus and Respen just do their jobs and protect indiscriminately
yeah
celestials are all some form of lawful
hypos are all some form of chaotic, mostly evil
or neutral for some (mehira)
I was thinking more like what would one think of them at a single glance.
But yeah, you guys know your table well.
I play DnD a lot
where is this from?
siren hypo?
Mehira is more chaotic evil for me,
she basicially mind washes people to her will, i dont see that as neutral, "mind cager" also doesnt seem very neutral to me
I dont see anything neutral about her either
Her cultists thinks shes a good person but theyre obviously wrong
Unless, bunny is her cultist 
Theres evil then theres misunderstood, misunderstood is fighting for a reason doing bad for a reason, she just does it
Out of pure evil
Its fawkes
She's also seen as a deity to some
Ok
That's why I put her as neutral
To the people who she manipulated
Yeah to the people who have been brainwashed
She's very divorced from human concepts of morality
And just does her own thing
Very chaotic but not evil per se
No matter what u are brainwashing people is still pretty evil lmao
Bc her little brainwashed slaves think shes good doesn't mean she is
Even beyond that
There are people who haven't been brainwashed who see her as a goddess
People who have been misled
If im told a serial killer is a good person does that really mean thats the truth
Gods can be evil too
Annih is a god and hes evil
Jist bc shes powerful and a god doesnt mean shes automaticially less evil
I think she left
Plus to the temple of light, cultists are considered enemies just as bad as hypos
The temple is jjst the equivalent of the spanish inquisation
Specifically the temple of ascension is the worst of them all they show no mercy
Cecilia's lore shows that
Rosaline also shows temple of light os pretty bad
https://www.afkarena.net/valentines-event
What I'm specifically referring to with mehira
While she's obviously not good I don't think it's as simple as "she brainwashes people bc she's evil"
(Scroll down to the lore part)
If im honest i can imagine belinda and cecilia not really getting along
She more rumoured about so expected people have different views
Some of her followers are more manipulated then others
Fawkes could cancel mehira 
What do they mean by embracing love?
Embrace and love life?
Where?
That’s interesting
In the line that says "love's warm embrace"?
Yeah
I feel like mehira was once a god of love and joy and then became a hypo, if she was was a hypo when she mentioned hypogeans in her quote she probably wouldve said "us" instead of hypos
It's not exactly clear who wrote the thing
Like it says mehira at the end
But the perspective seems off
I thinl only the last paragraph os mehira
I think the 3rd person writing is not merhira
And only the last paragraph is mehira
The mehira described here seems too good to be the mehira in game
It doesnt make much sense
Maybe mehira was once the love and joy giving god described here but than turned into a hypogean?
@trim shell u there?
my guess is lilith lore is inconsistent
which it is
Fair
and so they presented two different sides to mehira
I just think that mehira is mehira and shes a rumour so different people have different views on her but at the end of the day mehira truely an evil hypo
What if her being evil hypo is a rumor 
Well we know her character all together is evil
Of course she does some stuff not considerably evil but still she enslaves humanity
I still think she turned into a hypo somehow
Well a goddess being turned into a hypo would be a pretty big part of her character i would assume that would of been included in her lore if so
True but that seems like a pretty big thing to just not add
The game doesn't really have any lore surprises ahead
Like all the lore we have isnt a series its not waiting for the next chapter or anything
But people are free to create their own next chapter
That's what makes it great
I know but thats such a big thing to just plainly not add
Or do u mean devs
No as in players are free to imagine what they want
I mean in campaign
Wdym
They r still here in the present
Ok lemme explain
They r invading esparia did they ever get defeated
So thousands of years before the present Espiria, this was when annih first started conquest over mortals and he was doing well until the idea of seeling the hypos away through the portal gate
Banishing them from espiria
No i mean the hypos are invading Right NOw
They r invading right now in the present rn
When dura lost her form she knew the bared gate wouldnt hold for ever
Did the story of afk arena ever conclude with the present hypogeans being defeated
So the bared gate opened up again
Like now, theyre invading again
Its happening right now
I answered did i not?
Its my fault for making the question confusing
The game isnt a story that ends the way you play the game is the hypos invading
And not reading ur name now o realize u cant answer the questiob
Ok
You thought campaign was like a plot?
No
Like each chapter is a story part?
No
Oh
I was asking if the hypogeans got defeated in the present by us the players
In like the last chapter
OR is the story ongoing
Doesnt end in the last chapter
Ok thanks
We dont get a storyline through campaign
Ik
So, Khasos killed Tidus father?
based on this thing in full HD
I know thats the "father" kanji/hanzi
Are dimensional heroes cannon
yes
Guess afk arena is just yggdrasyill mmo then
And we are sentient used-to-be npcs
I just realised a flaw in that
Doesnt numisu know Antandra and Satrana?
No, I think its a mistake due to the fact the kanji/hanzi refers to "both sides faving troublesome fathers" - which is more in line with Satrana.
Satrana and Tidus' fathers are both deserters and dead and caused problems for the two heroes.
Also the hanji used for death is the same with Nara's relationship with Gorvo. So it can be assumed it means Dead or Killed.
Khasos' lore makes no mention of a father
Does afk arena look anything like yggdrasil mmo, like is dura in yggdrasil mmo
Simce if not ainz cant be cannon
No, this is just a guest collab where Ainz ventured to Esperia with Albedo stalking him. There is no canon between the original series.
Oh
So none lf it is cannon, thanks
Of*
Khasos’ lore makes no reference to any father figure, Tidus on the other hand...
Combined with this
Makes this correct
@lament meadow sorry for the late reply. That piece of lore is from the origins of gb lores
ohhhhh ok
@spice mulch i have mentioned this theory before in here based on how tidus' father was killed by an officer in charge of managing deserters by a pair of axes, and khasos does serve that role and his weapon is also a pair of axes
imo I think it's just a fact
@spice mulch pretty sure he did. You must have missed our discussion on this a few weeks ago
Yo reposting prediction for the next hero
Look like the next one is the siren mentioned in origins of gb lore?
I was kinda confused when someone said those lines were linking to mezoth
Although Tidas' father escaped from the battlefield, he ultimately failed to escape the harsh sanctions. The executioner who oversaw the escape used a precise throwing axe to rectify him.
Killed by a throwing axe, and there is only one hero with a throwing axe
Khasos is known as an executioner in Chinese lore, right?
@spice mulch it's in the origins of maulers lore
Are the voyage of wonders stories taking place in the present or does it vary between them
define present
most are adventures or related to old lore so i doubt
zol are deff lore related and time doesnt apply to his stories
@lilac ether present means the time in which most of the lb heroes live
Present means right now, while the hypogeans r invading, while we players r playing thru campaign
well none deal with any invasion so probably not
Fair but just bc hypos invade doesnt mean everything needs to be about it
I think pot varies bc in one of them vedan is going thru his story
Idk abot vow, the art of conquest has a war but idk if its against hypos
So is this one for a new GB hero still to be announced?
.
It's different
Do you think the war between an lb country and a mauler country is still ongoing
sounds like race stuff from depths of time 3
they're veiwed as inferior beast people
They still have conflict yes
@forest oar teaser line for the patch after the upcoming patch.
Ok so art of conquest is reffering to the lb v maulers war and is in the present?
@sudden thicket maulers tribe has always been at war with the lb eversince their creation. The only time that they united was to fight and seal off the hypogean in the barred gate thousands of years ago.
Ah where did u know maulers fought lbs for forever
Also do you mean certain lb countries and mauler countries are fighting or like everybody whos lb and mauler r fighting
@sudden thicket from some of the cn lores for the background stories of the lb maulers and wilders. I have posted them in here a while ago
Chinese lore. A lot hero lores are very different in english vs chinese language. And also some lores only published on chinese community forums
To me cn version is canon. Eng lore is just a product of translation, so it cant be canon. But i heard there was an admin in here that said eng was canon.
Well theres not much of a way to see which is cannon
Other than devs and mods picking and choosing
@sudden thicket the thing is consistency. If you only eng lore, you will tackle a shit tons of plot hole that cant be explained. Baden lore for example, in eng version, he is still controlled by the lichs spirit, but in the oak inn his dialog implies he is free of any control. And in cn, baden actually gained back control of his body
Ah ok
I can tell you a lot more stuff that prove cn lore is canon.
Like athalia lore in cn mentions about cecillia existence, but not in eng lore. And remeber athalia was released way before the release of ceci
I kinda doubt translation erased parts of lore
Mistranlation and changes in story.
Ok
Guess they forgot to change bios when they changed stories, hope they fix them
The bad translation only happens in early contents though. Recently released lores are very consistent like word by word
Ok cool
Do you mean those lore posts or what cn lore?
Are you referring to the origin of the GB and the Origin of the Maulers or another different story?
Yeap, and also Thane's changed, changing it a lot (at least for me)
@forest oar by cn lores, i mean in game hero's lore if you switch language to chinese, and also lores that were published on the chinese social media groups
Oh I don't know about the lore on the Chinese social media group.
Could you maybe send a link in?
@forest oar it's kinda hard to send you the direct link because i had to browse it using an auto translator tool. I dont know cn unfortunately 😆
There is a lot of afk discusion groups like on taptap, weibo portal, 9game.cn
Would you recommend something? I'd really like to look them up
I never heard of these sites before. XD
@forest oar well just go to those sites and blindly go through every posts. Gonna take you some times though. If you want, i can share you my doc file that contains all the stuff on those sites that i have found
so I, with the help of @broken citrus , have come up with a Hyena (called Yaedi) society mauler HC. It's still only a concept and I may change it in near future so suggestions are really helpful 👀
In the Scorched Expanse, near the Howling Wastes, lies the oases occupied by the Yaedi tribes.
It's a society that follows matriarchy and their society are strictly hierachical, one has to make extra effort and prove themselves in battle to climb up the rank . But even at the same rank, the female ones will always be more regarded than the male. It doesn't mean a low-ranking male Yaedi is easy to pick on though. Because they are known for valiant warriors even when facing mortal danger.
The Yaedi are highly territorial, those who tresspass their land rarely survive to tell the tale. But outsiders could obtain their permission to trade with them.
There's no king in the tribes. The only leader is the Queen, the most regarded and respected person in the entire clan. Only the wisest and strongest female Yaedi can be chosen as the leader. So the Queen is considered to be the strongest and deadliest warrior amongst the tribe. The Queen status is not inheritable, even if she has children, they have to join the Ceremony, which occurs every 7 years, if they want to become the Queen. Even the Queen has to hone her fighting skill if she wants keep her throne. If the Queen passes away before the ceremony happens, the throne will be given to the most respected female Yaedi.
The Yaedi values both strength and wisdom. They're splitted into two houses. The House of Valiance and the Sanctuary. One for warriors, and the other for those who seek the ancient knowledge of voodoo and arcane power.
The Yaedi do not praise the celestials and hypogene but they do praise both Annih and Dura. Even though the Lightbearers were the ones who created the original Ya people. But it was Annih who tricked the Lightbearers to give them life, appearance and strength. After the Ya was expelled from the land of Lightbearers, Annih, once again, appeared and guided them to the burning wasteland. He then told them that if they want to become stronger, they must endure the harsh environment and face death with honor, hence the Mauler's totem: Bloody Will. Dura after witnessing the sins the Lbs have commited to the Ya, she could not turn a blind and. She felt a great deal of responsibility to the Ya, so she gave them the water of life (oases), saving countless lives of their ancestors.
Those who dare defile the tribe and tradition are exiled and left a mark on their back. A mark of shame and dishonor. They are free to go anywhere but they are not allowed to return to any Yaedi tribes, else they will face an execution.
My Yaedi oc, drawn by @broken citrus 
https://photos.app.goo.gl/TZMjPhc3tvEMDbU79
cool looking

seems alot more like an overview of the tribe than of the character itself
if that's whay u were going for
yea, I just changed it to Yaedi society HC to avoid misunderstanding
@pulsar thicket đẹp quá vậy

I'm still developing my own Yaedi's lore tho, might post it later
u speak voodo too 
thanks 😄. It was Regalus who made it this beautiful.
jk
fellow Vietnamese
that's Vietnamese, nothing special
also... Cool
@trail kite its voodoo language. I have numisu's mask and can speak to the ancient souls

@trail kite that oc art is the best i've seen bro. Going to read its lore now
The heck. You viet too?
đúng
This is an international server so maybe tone down your own language then?
@pulsar thicket nice hc. Í hyena social structure actually like that in your lore.
@simple vine 👍
This is based on irl hyena social structure. Irl they don't allow a member to "rank up" in their society. But in my lore they do but with extreme difficulty.
Okay
so what they do,just birth better warriors and wish for better rates?
no, they can be a free roamer, a warrior or "witch doctor" (very rare) but their social status define them when they're in a Yaedi tribe.
oh, the adult male are the lowest of the low, then the babies (both sexes), then the female hyenas and the strongest female acts as a leader
irl this apply only to spotted hyena
striped hyenas don't live in group, they hunt alone. Meanwhile spotted hyenas live in a large group.
I finished the first part of my fan fiction 
!TW: Contains description of gore death!
!Before you read this second reminder it may trigger some readers as it has description of death!
@bleak hull i shouldve heeded your warning. Now I feel bad for ira
Another day, another theory
Safiya wanted to control the whole maulers tribe, and the grand chieftain mentioned in anoki lore was assassinated. Im guessing safiya might have a part in this plot
hungry for power
That would be great! Thank you!!
It seems like it's starting to make sense, although a bit loose
Also the falcon Anoki befriended was Skriath right?
I mean there's only one flavor character so far
Falcon*
I mainly put the warning there for people who get triggered or upset at description or mentions of death/murder
Where did ya find it?
Victor (an apprentice) and Kenstein (a dean, high authority it seems)
Could one of them be from the mortas story?
Aight.
No
Aight. Just though that Dean might be the jailor.
What does iffy mean?
Uncomfortable.
The jailer was named Seifer
Oh, I forgot that the guy had a name.
Will he become a hero though?
No
I guess.
like mediocre or sub bar
In my definition, it just means there's a few issues that can be touched upon but aren't that big of a deal
And no I do not think it's sub bar
You have good story telling but my issue just lies with a bit of punctuation in the dialogues
And I guess the font made it feel like reading some code
Sorry for the constructive criticism
Would be curious for part 2 anyway
English isnt my first language so im sometimes bad with punctuation etc
Thank you for the feedback tho
@forest oar https://docs.google.com/document/d/11vTQORNBjbTwL1ki0pP74P-eufVkYZ8-VZSZXpwEP2k/edit?usp=drivesdk
Pippa 1 Oden 4 Zaphreal 6 Twisted realm lore 10 ARDEN THE UNHINGED 11 BURNING BRUTE 14 Resonating crystal 16 Belinda 17 Soren 18 Torne 19 Kane 22 Ice Shemira 24 Oscar 25 Angelo 28 Grotesque Mage 30 Union - Numisu Vurk Saveas 31 Dimensional heroes’ background story 35 Sword and Expedition new h...
Above is the doc for miscellaneous lores
@forest oar https://docs.google.com/document/d/1fH4Finw1iIPXD84DUdhKUYCVBouEXMLTR25LtXZ7NA8/edit?usp=drivesdk
▊ The birth of the demihuman Human body alchemy is a stain that is difficult to erase in the history of mortals, and it is also a proof that mortals are overpowered. The lies used by the god of death Ann to fool the blasphemer, and finally let the greedy and arrogant humans eat their own evil res...
And that one is cn lores explaining the origins of the lb and wilders
@lilac ether they are cn lores that i have collected so far
so the Lb are really the degenerates that made cat and fox women
reprehensible
i thought they were born normally
@lilac ether they did. It was even mentioned in the english origins of maulers lore that human created the maulers.
Hey thank you!!!
Thank you very much!
Aah, I'll be sure to read them!
So are those the heroes that have a difference from the English lore?
Oh and..
Did you translate them all yourself?
So is the second document just the lore from the Maulers origin story?
@forest oar not all but a lot. And i only used auto tranlastor tool for the translation
The second doc is the origins of lb and wilder which are missing in the eng version as we only have the eng version of origins of maulers and gb
I recomend read through the second one if you are not familiar with the timeline as how each faction comes to existence
@dark heath one thing to note about mortas lore is that it took place like more than a thousand years ago, so only a few characters are related to the current setting.
So the "greens" are supposed to be the Wilders in the origin story.
Btw thank you very much for searching those docs.
Do you know if Lilith will still be releasing the Origin of the Lb and Wilders in English?
I mean they started with some Loreposts every Friday on Facebook.
Would you know of they still keep them going?
@forest oar green = wilder, brutal blood tribe = mauler, yaogang or glory empire = lb, aya = dura
If enough people ask lilith, they may make it, but as of now we can only rely on the cn version.
Though its hard to read due to the auto translating, but it fills with a lot of important details
I sure hope lilith will do them.
It would be unfair if the English readers don't get all the details the Cn community gets.
It may be hard to read yes, but it's understandable.
Btw what Translation software do you use if any specific one?
Do you Screenshot the Cn lore and make the software translate the text or do you have a specific website where you can call up any hero's story individually?
@forest oar i use the google auto translator tool for stuff found on the web, and for most heroes lore, i just switch in game language to cn and make a screenshot then use my built in translator tool in my phone
Ah. I don't have a build on translator.
Had to install one. But still make Screenshots and translate them from there.
There are also some websites that have the heroes lore for you to read, but there is a lot of missing heroes.
That one for example
Most of the difference in heroes lore between eng and cn have been discovered in here by us though.
Oh I didn't know that one.
I mostly don't even know how to search for websites in Chinese since wether my phone nor my computer show me any results in Chinese no matter how hard I try to dig.
Thats why I'm mostly so amazed how people find those websites!
But again. Thank you very much for giving me so much information and sites where to look those lore up. Thank Ou very much!!
And yes, I see there are a lot of heroes missing.
Mostly the new ones
@forest oar if you are going to read heroes cn lore, you should read lores of numisu, satrana, antandra, baden and fer first as their lores in cn are very different than their eng versions, not just a few missing details here and there
Fer?
Do you mean Ferael?
Yes, my bad
And thank you for the recommendations!
Happens to the best of us ^^
Yeah, but that jailer guy was turned into a graveborn as well as the son of the king too I believe. That's the main thing, the hypogeon inside mortas can't have his soul since the jailer can't die. The king's son isn't mentioned anywhere else so don't know about that guy.
@dark heath sorry, i was actually responding to your previous comment about the gb in silas izold union story and mortas lore.
Oh, I see. I guess that makes more sense. Sorry about that.
hey, this fan fic is great, can you notify me when you finished writing more parts
Of course!
Thanks!
is there any wiki with most the english lore?
would rather read rhem off a browser than ingame
my battery would die
Also ram
@lilac ether afkarena.net has most of the heroes' lore.
Have you guys read morael lore yet? There is this void realm that was mention in her lore which i think is the same thing that was mentioned in Oden lore
@lilac ether no. Original hypogeans are the flesh and blood of the god of death annih. He created them to destroy esperia

There are other demons who were created from other means like ezizh for example
Back to the "void realm" stuff from morael lore. Oden and safiya lores also mentioned that the magic that they have learned are from this "void realm"
Looks like dolly dialogue referenced gouldos
mist 
So it's starting to make sense to me about this void realm stuff. When you guys start reading morael lore, there will be mentioning of void realm and dark force. I can confirm that it's the same stuff mentioned in oden and safiya lores
The man is friking Cthulhu
Like i said a while back... gotta admit though that Lilith has good taste in books.
maybe they should continue the origin of Mauler then move to Wilder or LB
just like how they do with GB
@trail kite i think origin of maulers is pretty much concluded.
maybe... but... why they make the whole origin of other factions in hiatus
we got GB now
That's also my question. Don't know why they stopped publishing lores on their offficial fb page all of a sudden
I wait for Wilder now all i got was GB
Ive heard about the new dimensional
Before it was just confirmed
Prince of Persia
It’s a secret 
But if you pay me 99.99$ I might tell you one of his abilities 
I know where are they
But forgot where sadly

Don't skam ppl dude not kewl 
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Holy cow
Abilities are not leaked
His skils were the same from the previous Lilith game
I swear, when he's released, if we have to wait for him to use up his rewind time powers five times... 
Zolrath but scarier...
Wait he can rewind time too?
Zolrath 2.0
Yes, in the game he's a parkour warrior... which means there's a lot of platforming... which means there's a lot of times you're going to fail. The hourglass that he carries allows him to return back to the moment right before he dies. And it can be used, varying between games, around 5 times.
Geez that ability will be annoying for PvP
he definitely very hard to be used
and need a lot of practice to be perfect or know it
Are we all on the same page? The leak on afk.guide does show all of dastan's skill and also his SI description
I didnt notice the post you made, apologies, I just saw the official post in afk and just had to say something about it. So he seems to be a burst damage ranger from what I'm reading.
Okay now I'm scared...

Bargain 
When has the Union story of those two been revealed?
Awkward silhouette 😂
https://twitter.com/afk_arena/status/1386243590112915456?s=21
I debunked those
yet another ranger
wonder what we would've done without him
i atleast hope he's a warrior fkr a change
From which game/Series does he come from?
If he's from one of Lilith own games, would that mean he would also be available I the store?
Not all the dimensionals are from other games
Example is Arthur who is historical figure
Hi
And it might be markiplier from a heist with markipler although he already had an apperence in the game so probably not
It's the Prince of Persia.
Dastan
That much has been known in this server.
Although a playable Markiplier would be cool
Either prince of persia is a historic figure or a character from another game im un aware of
is game
from another game jesus christ 
Oh what game is he from?
...prince of persia
oh my

you can quite literally just search that up on google and it's the first result
Sorry i thought Prince Of Persia was his title sorry for the trouble
The first prince of persia game is one of my favorite childhood game athough i've never beat it. The game was damn hard.
For what console was it? If it wasn't a mobile game
@forest oar it was ported to multiple systems, but I played it on the NES
Oh cool. Thank you
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i love these bts clips, showing how attentively afk developers are
wait...
afk portrait art
strained glass art
read the text in the video and my mind explose again
Here's my favourite song from the game in orchestrated form, I'm so happy
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the haste beat
like the footstep of the prey escape the arrow of the hunter
without the voice... we could feel the meaning by the beat
and the instrument
except Angelo song...
it's have voice
and need a lyrics
@broken citrus I think we didn't talk about this from an old VoW
Oh I saw. But in previous ones Vurk was like, "Why do you come along with me"
And in the other one Skreg dragged Vurk by the tail because he thought Vurk was being dumb again
I remember that from a Peak of Time
It was fun, although it's sad that they don't have mouse/rat tails in the game
Yeah
Drez's tail doesn't quite look like a rodent tail
Yo. Provide context please. Im lost 😆
Oh
It's that Vurk and Skreg share little to no similarities despite being brothers
Unless one of their parents was naughty
Yeah, skreg looks more introvert
Yeah but Skreg and Vurk are brothers, therefore they should share at least a bit of similarities
Out of the many rodent species out there
Which also makes me wonder why they have no rodent teeth

I dunno, blame the furry LBs that made the Ya in the first place
Or whiskers
Kren is just... a mystery
Lightbearers can't do things right, that's why they are no longer meta
@spice mulch i would disagree on that. Being sibling doesn't mean they should share similar personality.
Not personality, I mean physically
Durri Ya were just made to be 3' tall pets
They don't look like brothers at all
@spice mulch oh, my bad... perhaps they are not blood related?
including chinchilla
Chinchilla like Durri mage...
that stuff pop out my mind and you can steal it
Drez could be a chinchilla, with his puffy tail and all
Who knows, Skreg could have just adopted Vurk after their folks got eaten by Ankhira's people
Or some other kind
packrat or Chinchilla or Squirrel like Durri
but if Squirrel... that give me of Pippa vibe
True
Unless durris just stopped caring about rodent types and they just go and start a family with whoever they want
And somehow Kren came into existence
Out of all durri, kren is my least favorite of the bunch 😆
I'm more HCing that Kren just happened to be born with atavistic genes of the Ya. So that's why he looks so weird and his sclera are black. As a result he's off his rocker and his sanity is fairly on the low side.
If only he was just as strong :I
@broken citrus saw some of your oc art the other day, and it looks stunning
At least his shield ||and milk|| are good
That and his ult
Some heroes need a tiny bit of rework, and some others need to be completely redone
Oh well
Hopefully Lilith will fix them
(Especially Warek's furniture come on)
Perhaps
Make Warek useful please
That way he can be no. 1 waifu both in battle and in ass
Nobody's got bigger cake than he
Except Raku
Thank you, it was fun drawing it
What cake?
@analog belfry cuz he is really a scumbag 😆
click on his story and see his portrait
u will know when u see it
how tho
i wanna know
Read his story. It tells everything
oh ok
he has been like that after become a celestial
This is why being too good is bad
uwu
Wu Kong, Zapheral, and Serius look like scumbags I hate them all
Well they sometimes act that way
Wu Kong with his pride and dialogue
Seirus's job is basically to send tidal waves at bad people
Can anyone please explain the last part to me, i didnt get it
They refer to Tasi since she can hop from dream to dream as well just like Ezizh.
Only that she "represents" the good dreams and Ezizh the Nightmares.
Thats why he tries to hunt her down somehow
Didnt someone have a theory that the last abyssal expedition boss could of been ezizh's dream world form
Is ansiel ever coming to the game?
Thats a bit too much dont you think? I imagine he could to a certain point control his form but i dont think that hed have like totally new abilities
Also it mentions in his lore that hes trying to hide from the people in the dream realm and that appearences is nothing if not eye catching
It wasnt my theory i just heard it, i think it was bc of their similar features, plus tasi has different abilities in the mortal realm and a different form in the mortal realm too so why not Ezizh?
I see your point tho
Wait can ezizh even enter the physical realm?
For normal people you just sleep and dream to get to the dream realm but for him he was born there and theres no mention of him leaving the dream world
Well
How do you know?
Bc hes in the physical realm currently 
It was never really stated Ezizh does exactly return back normally into the land of esperia


