afk-lore

[gritty trail]

Vedan neither

They essentially became vampire GB

[quasi wedge]

i know silvana died for sure and had to be revived, but nothing about isabella, she just kinda...became GB by studying?

actually i guess silas doesn't "die" either

[silk widget]

@quasi wedge unsure since its not stated in the lore, but count vedan is the leader of bloody priesthood who use "blood magic ritual" to transform themself into gb. Not sure if they will fully become gb or just attain immortality after the ritual.

[quasi wedge]

training a teenager to be an assassin is bad enough, imagine trapping isabella in kid body if she's dead like all the other GB...

[languid panther]

Yeah it says the "necromancers granted him the solution to immortality" which I guess means he was killed and resurrected?

Theres so many kid GBs its sad

[silk widget]

@quasi wedge yeah silvinia died after being injured by estrildas father... from eng lore, she was resurrected by some random necromancer but it was her sister isabella who resurrected her

[mossy parcel]

Lilith hates kids 💕/j

[silk widget]

In cn lore

[languid panther]

Im not trying to be pedantic either lol sorry if Im being annoying Im writing a story about Baden and making sure I understand the lore as well as it can be for a gachapon mobile game lol.

[quasi wedge]

oh, i just heard isa resurrected silvana somewhere and took it as fact, i guess thankfully (?) i rarely bother reading lore myself fully i skip around too much

i'm sure people wouldn't mind small liberties taking for a better story, but i can understand wanting to be "accurate" too lol

[languid panther]

Oh yeah taking major liberties here but I dont want to make a mistake by simply not knowing something cause Im not that far into the game and I dont know like the oak inn dialogue or anything

Wow being a necromancer seems more dangerous than practical seeing that like sometimes the person you bring back utterly slaughters you ie Baden and Oden

I unironically love Oden hes just here to have a good time.

[bleak hull]

Silvina actually died but isabella and vedan arent entirely graveborn since they have to do a ritual to keep them in the state they're in so isa and vedan both still need nutrients.

That's the only reason vedan even adopted them

Isabella does the ritual, silvina retrieves the blood needed

[quasi wedge]

where is that stated? sounds real enough but i don't remember reading that lol

[bleak hull]

Well there lores are a little confusing, but, but i definitely heard the information about them but i cant remember where tho, but here are some things that back it up

1. Isabella and vedan is never mentioned dying and a graveborns death is usually mentioned in their lore
2. The ritual is mentioned in PoT

[quasi wedge]

oh i don't read PoT so makes sense i haven't seen it, thanks

[opaque matrix]

ah yes, typical loving guardian

[jaunty nacelle]

Adrax likes flowers

[bleak hull]

Does anyone know Belinda's official age?

[crystal tapir]

No. And Belinda's stopped giving out character ages, so we probably never will.

[languid panther]

RIP Belinda

[spice mulch]

A rotten flower

So ew

[civic geyser]

Ironic

Belinda won't give the age of Belinda

[simple vine]

that actually sounds reasonable enough

[dark heath]

"Hazard pay"

[dark heath]

I LOVE THESE DIALOGUES

[civic geyser]

Rowan simping for Gwyn is something worth living for

And Rowan being a businessman

[dark heath]

I think thats not gwyn

But "the musical rose"

Which means its just another human girl

Because they certainly dont act like gwyn, lorsan, izold or skriath

[gritty trail]

well Lorsan is addressed by his name

but the others no

[civic geyser]

I can see

[trail kite]

Rowan know Lorsan too

[civic geyser]

Still thinking about Izold's counterpart being a musical dude

[gritty trail]

Actually, it might be that both of them aren't familiar by the other's name, so the other 3 are addressed by their band names

[crystal tapir]

I bet Skriath also has reason to hide his identity.

I mean, he is the acting grand chieftain of the Maulers. He has to keep up a certain image.

No matter how good a leader you are, a warrior race is gonna have a little trouble taking you seriously if they figure out you're dressing up like Michael Jackson and playing freeform jazz.

[fallen trellis]

@distant tiger why do I feel like you were trying to tell us something a few months ago-

[spice mulch]

Angelo knows them by their nicknames only

[dark heath]

Ohh okay i get it

So rowan knows lorsan but both brothers have no idea who the rest are

And skriath, izold and gwyn are under their persona as musicians

persona flashbacks intensifies

[distant tiger]

Wasn't this a year ago when the pandemic just started?

[fallen trellis]

I think so

Idk why or how I even remembered this

[distant tiger]

Dreafs were overrunning Experia, back then and now.

[fallen trellis]

There and back again

[distant tiger]

hobbit music intensifies

[spice mulch]

Lmao

[fallen trellis]

[spice mulch]

That beam is dwarven technology tho

Smh my head

[trail kite]

Dreafpocalypse

[dark heath]

Embrace our true ruler

Lord Dreaf

[silk widget]

@spice mulch IP stealing in Esperia has been confirmed

[silk widget]

So "yggdrasil forest" is about 550 square km

How big is 550 km2 though?

[dark heath]

I love them

Peggy is a sheltered child neglected by her father and all she wants is to just have a playmate and be outside like normal kids

[dark heath]

Is it wrong that i lowkey ship these two because they look good together

Niru who? The doctor is in, his name is Silas

[slim ore]

shem has 2 hands smh

niru/shem/silas poly triad if ur not a coward

[trail kite]

O_O

I'm not into that

[south yew]

Silas kinda seems like a mega introvert

Shem looks like the opposite but idk

[gritty trail]

Withow, The Spiral of Calamity

(Hypogean OC I made)

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ZHDNELoycEV3lJxPj_nHTfJcakdOAOPgw5KAThTNZUY/edit?usp=sharing

[trail kite]

me go lowkey ship Lorsan with Angelo

[winged hazel]

i’m so genuinely happy over the rosaline nendoroid i’m just jdbsjdbskdbskdbdkdb

[civic geyser]

Daimon is disappointed

[slim ore]

Daimon has 3 parents now wym

Smh yall are w e a k

Shem/Niru/Silas would be such a power triad

Anyone who vaguely glanced at daimon wrong would be thanos snapped

Niru & Silas spend their time geeking out over science stuff while shem chimes in from time to time and also makes sure they, yknow. Take care of themselves and what not. Her boys are bad at self-care when they fixate on things

Shem teaches Silas embroidery and other neat sewing things and tries to keep him from turning his tentacles into a sewing machine because "that's not the point, Si!"

He does it anyways and it turns out to be rather helpful to have an assistant when she's handling bulk orders as a seamstress

(She definitely makes him use his hands when it's not work-related though)

Shem and niru bond a lot over that sort of thing, too. Niru was so often wrapped up in his work that he neglected himself so shem p much forced sewing as a hobby to make him take breaks

So all three of them will sit around and chat while working on projects

While Daimon sits on the floor, playing with stitchy and other toys

Silas occasionally teases him by using his tentacles [the needles are capped for safety, or maybe just removed, idk] to pick something up and be like "oh no they're malfunctioning and you're too short to get it what a shame :("

Daimon is throughly entertained mostly bc he thinks the doc ock thing is really cool

[trail kite]

I smell...
Something i didn't like

[slim ore]

ok?? you don't have to like polyam ships but that doesn't stop the rest of us

[trail kite]

I can't stop you. just enjoying it
I like polyam ship too

but I didn't ship Shemira with others besides Niru

maybe i will be misunderstood for that so I have to say more

I like polyam ship, I even have one

[civic geyser]

Im good with polyams

But just not at the momenttl

[trail kite]

No one can't be stopped for shipping

i have only one and I will make more content of them... (I say Ferronnpen)

[slim ore]

that's cool and valid but like
"I smell something i don't like" as a response is generally Not a good look

like even setting aside polyam it's kinda like. "...ok? what am i supposed to do with that?"

can u dislike a ship? sure. can u say that? sure. but like idk what u really expect saying it twice like at that point why would u not just leave the channel

that's what i do when i dont care a lot of whatever conversation or ship or whatever is going on

[trail kite]

okay, I'm sorry for saying that

[silk widget]

Actually only lucretia deserves shemira.

[civic geyser]

Both of them are definitely mom material

Assuming one doesn't reap your soul and the other stab you

[mossy parcel]

Ok but I genuinely love all of this??

[coral plume]

What is the lore behind Peggy's nonexistant nose

[mossy parcel]

Wh

There isn't, I think that's how how they tend to sometimes draw younger characters noses? Rowan also doesn't have a nose

[zenith pond]

Yessssssssssssssssssssssssss

[zenith pond]

also this is some galaxy brain, imagine if Shem was still mad at Niru after the whole death thing(which she's not, this is an AU idea) and now Daimon has two moms who would destroy the world for him (and probably will)

[slim ore]

bro luc/shem is a terrifying power couple

[trim shell]

Luc x Shem x Alna 👀

[south yew]

oh god

[zenith pond]

bruh

[sturdy nova]

I want it, NOW!

[slim ore]

[mossy parcel]

[trail kite]

"I still hear your song from the distant. Far away from the crowded town, Somewhere near the Forest, Vividly through the sunlight. I feel your voice throughout the harsh conditions, through the warfare"

Melody through the wind

a nonsense written of Lorsan x Angelo

"I want to send this song with my speech through the wind, let em send to your heart and your inspiration"

[coral plume]

Let us discuss the possibility of Ankhira being a broodmother and how hot that would be.

[distant idol]

Let us keep your fetishes outside of this mixed age server

[civic geyser]

And suddenly, I thank god that there are no insectoid wilders/maulers

[trail kite]

insectoid Wilder when

maybe a moth

[forest oar]

Mothman
Hunter of Light

[civic geyser]

Praying mantis dude. Lore would say he's afraid to get a mate because he knows she'll end up eating him in more ways than onr

Colonial insects would be the weirdest, like bees or ants

Either one in the system would be uniquely strange- males with the sole purpose to mate, female workers that slave away and are dangerously strong, and then the hive mommy

[forest oar]

If anything I think they would be in the Maulers Territory. I see them more being in the desert then in the Forest. The Ant(Maulers) I mean

[civic geyser]

Fair

[trail kite]

scorpion

[forest oar]

:0 Or some of these Half Human half snake creatures

[civic geyser]

Lamias, Id like

[bleak hull]

The snake like tribe are the sapera isnt it

[trim shell]

Yeah

Tho they are described as snake charmers, not necessarily snake people

My hc is that they are snake ppl tho because beeg snake telling little snake what to do is fun

[civic geyser]

I do wanna see more of that

Animalistic characters interacting with actual animal versions

Say, Ankhira just taking care of a pet tarantula

Brutus fighting an actual lion

Estrilda believing Golus is in lvoe with her when in reality he's into her steed

[forest oar]

Pfffffft Hahahahaha XD

[forest oar]

Warek wrestling an actual bear

[fallen trellis]

[bleak hull]

Does anyone know the name of Estrilda's horse, if the name is mentioned

[spice mulch]

nope

it's not mentioned

[civic geyser]

We don't even know the horse's gender

[slim ore]

i have a crack hc that harry [angelo's cat] and rowan's duck [who i have named larry] are actually eldertich beasts who have taken a liking to their charges

so, continuing this, i will dub the horse terry and he is also an Unknowable Elder God who likes this cute little human for whatever reason

[forest oar]

Who knows, maybe those three are Hypogeans in disguise?

[civic geyser]

Hm well, Harry seems to communicate with Angelo well, "Larry" poops out golden eggs, and Estrilda's horse can charge through the battle field and return to its original spot in about 3 seconds

These animals are hella odd

[forest oar]

They really are.

Send them to the vet

[crystal tapir]

Maybe there's a whole secret cabal of animal companions waiting to form their own faction.
Harry, Larry, Horse, Savagehorn, and Chica.

[spice mulch]

[crystal tapir]

I only just noticed that note is upside-down. Hah.

[spice mulch]

I think it's a kind of note tho

[lament meadow]

the note actually isnt upside down, it just represents a note on a higher ledger

[dark heath]

The iron-jaws spawning when Skreg is deployed are really just smaller copies of Skreg, with his original animation for the move probably still being there, just done off-screen.
In other words, a mini-Skreg dies every few seconds for that move to work. Rip.

[crystal tapir]

I'm still wondering what logical sense that ability could possibly make.

I was headcanoning that the mini-Skregs were younger Durri pups with hatchling ironjaws who looked up to the brothers as the greatest heroes of their tribe, but with this revelation, that would get remarkably disturbing.

[civic geyser]

Every 8 seconds to be exact. But when the baby ironjaw makes the finishing move you can see mini Skregs celebrating too

[dark heath]

I just headcanon that Skreg can make clones of himself and Savagehorn, because it's funnier that way.

[dark heath]

The mini-Skreg being there in the victory animation is actually what made me realise it.

[dark heath]

Just a screenshot of these cuties winning together

[trail kite]

three of them

[dark heath]

Yee

[lament meadow]

goblin squad

[dark heath]

Precious babs

[spice mulch]

Peggy too big

[civic geyser]

Children

[spice mulch]

Peggy's head is huge

She has hidrocephalia

[umbral dome]

@spice mulch what is hidrocephalia?

[spice mulch]

Big head full of water

[umbral dome]

Scary

[civic geyser]

If anything

Peggy seems like an airhead

But respect to her for having some level of knowledge

Imma be honest, because of the dimensionals, AFK is the only place I can find Overlord fans cross over with Assassin's Creed fans

[undone umbra]

@bleak hull she is in house of rayne says it on the first page

[bleak hull]

What?

Did you tag the wrong person idk what your on about?

[trim shell]

Estrilda

I think they read horse as house

[crystal tapir]

Well, it doesn't have a name, so I suppose the Horse Of Rayne is as good a name as any.

[lament meadow]

someone earlier named it terry

[civic geyser]

Horse of Rayne

[sturdy nova]

So is the new celestial stargazer mentioned in lore? The one dolly gossips about

[gritty trail]

Aside from just Dolly, no

but

there does seem to be a celestial-like character revealed in an official art that has a similar description to what Dolly says

[trail kite]

starry hair

and connected to star

[gritty trail]

And if this does come true, we might have a rival already

A hypo in the same art piece who has a body seemingly made of stars and with a crown as well

[spice mulch]

I still remember Alna being featured in Flora's introduction trailer

[gritty trail]

yep

Lilith always makes their content super early but never reveals it after like months later

[civic geyser]

It's called

✨Foreshadowing✨

[gritty trail]

...well

sometimes

there are other times where things are outright leaked

PoP dim for example

or like

Izold's old design which became Oden

[trail kite]

Lilith love to spoiled those new lore

[civic geyser]

I remember leaks of the Talene skin

[dark heath]

I like how when Peggy is defeated she doesn't "pass out" like other heroes do
She just runs away

Like ">:'c i dont wanna play anymore!"

[forest oar]

I think that's a pretty sweet detail they put in there

[civic geyser]

It's definitely cool, some heroes have special "death" effects where they don't really die

Gorvo's is definitely the stupidest, just retreats into his shell

[trail kite]

turtle do it

Some GB shut theirs eye when they died

except Ferael

he is dead inside and his eyes still open

[civic geyser]

Isabella pulls an Obito and sucks herself out of existence

Torne dissipates into a pile of bones so he's definitely dead

[trail kite]

Oden being vacuumed by the portrait

Izold broke his head

Mehira and Mortal turn into a pile of bats

[civic geyser]

Mezoth is my favorite

He just plumps and sits down on the ground like a dead babey

[trail kite]

Khazard shattered himself

[civic geyser]

There's Ainz too

He doesn't really die because even in AFK he's too OP

He just, retreats

The fucker

[sharp pulsar]

Lol

Geto

The goal of all laif is death

Jono maho

Fallen down!

[forest oar]

Silas also just shuts his eyes and all the liquid he carries around on his back spills on the ground

[trail kite]

Tasi...cried on the ground

Eironn and Respen...fade

[forest oar]

Krens Weapons explode in his face but he's still standing

[civic geyser]

Oh my god the Durri are the funny ones

Vurk does die but does the cartoony "hurrrrrrk Ive been stabbed"

Okay well Drez was a bit sad

[dark heath]

Izold dying: brain jar go smash
Eironn and respen: fading with the wind
Lyca and nemora: i sleep

[civic geyser]

Thoran gets Thanos snapped

[trail kite]

Eironn and Respen scream and fade

[manic totem]

ains just be like: yea im to god to fight imma just head out-

[forest oar]

Wu Kong: Yep good bye, Imma leave this body.
Estrilda: gets thrown off by her horse

[lament meadow]

nah dude dont worry about him, hes just Snoozin

[forest oar]

Another funny one is Athalia.
She just floats in the air like a dead goldfish

[civic geyser]

Daimon has the saddest one. When he dies, he reaches his arm out before he goes limp like whyyyy

[sand copper]

Hypogeans should win

[sand copper]

And stitchy just gets yeeted

[coral zodiac]

Grezhul just gets knocked out like: time to sneep

Seirus just melts

[sand copper]

Nemora just gets out like a crackhead

[civic geyser]

Wdym she lies down on the ground

It's a sad little bab

[vale grove]

Thane and Baden fall to the ground

[sand copper]

Ezizh just vanishes like my dad

[civic geyser]

Ezizh gets a migraine so hard he decides to not exist

[sand copper]

That jono maho actually translates to "super tier spell, fAllen d0wN"

Kren just busts

[crystal tapir]

Zolrath is probably the most dramatic. His animation legit looks like you just defeated a final boss.

[civic geyser]

If Zolrath wasn't a playable character he definitely would be a good final boss

His abilities scream boss battle- deja vu, portals, future selves, stealing stats from his own allies, gets stronger throughout the battle

[crystal tapir]

And in terms of canonical power sets, he's the most dangerous. And in terms of motivations, he has the least redeeming factors. He's just pure evil. Entertainingly evil, but pure evil. Sort of like Dio in that regard.

[forest oar]

He kind of looks like a broken bear trap at the end of the dying animation

[torn finch]

Which hero is gay, there has to be at least ONE

[spice mulch]

Brutus and Khasos for each other

[forest oar]

Antandra and Satrana maybe?

[lament meadow]

thane and baden

[bleak hull]

I only just now found out gwens weapon is a harp not a tuba or something

[vale grove]

Yesssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss

[vivid merlin]

Not just a harp, it’s more of a mashup of harp, trumpet, and some other instruments

[crystal tapir]

Brutus and Khasos are the most likely, especially since Lilith seems to keep nodding to it.

I also definitely ship Vurk with Saveas. at least when I'm not depravedly shipping Vurk with Skreg

[torn finch]

How....? Hes a rat and saveas is like a goat

Idk wat skreg is

[crystal tapir]

Vurk and Skreg are the same species. Because they're brothers. thus the "depravedly".
Saveas is a satyr.

[torn finch]

Oh

[crystal tapir]

But yeah, I get the impression that Vurk and Saveas are super-close from their Union story, especially after hearing about the original untranslated version.

If they're not gay for each other, they're at the very least best friends.

There used to be someone here who did a bunch of cute Vurk/Saveas/Numisu art, but they've unfortunately left the server a few months ago.

[torn finch]

I have a question for you, well actually 2 questions but the 2nd one is a bit rude so let's just pretend it doesn't exist

[crystal tapir]

I'm guessing the second one is along the lines of "what the actual fuck is wrong with you".

[torn finch]

No its "are u a furry?"

The 1st one is why is ur name so bigggggg

[crystal tapir]

2nd: Unapologetically.
1st: Saying what favorite characters we're obsessed with was kind of a running joke on this server for a while. It's not as common anymore, but you still see it with several people here. Guess I just never bothered to change it. Also, the ID is because I need companion points.

[torn finch]

I think u should drink water

[bleak hull]

Have you ever heard of how mules are bred

[torn finch]

No, why?

[inner sand]

Mules are the result of a donkey and a horse

[crystal tapir]

Also, the ya are demi-humans.

I'm sure they could interbreed if they wanted to.
(And even if they couldn't, we are talking about same-sex couples here, so that would be irrelevant. :p)

[trail kite]

one question... is Angelo an atheist or he doesn't have a faith?

[dark heath]

Omfg forreal dead goldfish

[dark heath]

Its unclear. Atheist means you don't believe god/gods exist, but having "no faith" could also mean he doesn't include himself in any esperian religion

He still could believe in Dura, even if he wasn't in any religion, because that also happens irl

Someone ask Belinda

[torn finch]

But maybe the could with ✨magic

[trail kite]

i think he isn't into any religion

[torn finch]

Idk wat magic could do within the canon lore

Its vague

[trail kite]

that's would be another story... and I have fankids oc with inter faction family too

[torn finch]

BUT its not denied so therefore its still possible

Were there any stories that defined the limitations of magic? @trail kite

In anyway

[trail kite]

I'm not good at story telling

i just... like making ocs

[torn finch]

So u dont read the lore

?

[trail kite]

i read the lore it's just

English isn't my native so sometimes I don't understand at something

[torn finch]

Oh

Sorry

You can change the language from inside the app

[spice mulch]

Angelo likes booze too

[dark heath]

Definitely

[sharp pulsar]

Ik lol

[sharp pulsar]

Everyone has gone to the tavern at some point so you could summon them.

[torn finch]

Even peggy...?

[dark heath]

[civic geyser]

Peggy's probably stopped there along the way

[crystal tapir]

Even Rowan's been confirmed to drink before (during the winter event). And Peggy is presumably his age.

[bleak hull]

Shes gone missing tho to the people of ranhorn, dolly mentiones it so i doubt she would go there

[dark heath]

To be fair, in the VoW Rowan had adult supervision

Albeit a drunk adult's supervision, but adult supervision nonetheless

[sharp pulsar]

Lol

[errant vale]

I came to play AFK arena because of the cool heroes and Joker but stayed because of the lore.
I would at least read one hero lore every night and I'd be like, "Hey, this hero and that hero knows each other" and it keeps surprising me.

Dang, my favorite lore to date is the graveborn family; Shemira, Daimon, and Niru <3

[sick quest]

i came from a ad so i think we are the same

[errant vale]

mhmm, still super sad that on the day that I joined was the day Alna's event ended. Her story is super cool too

[silk widget]

Have you guy watched the new anniversary video featuring angelo yet?

Nothing new lore wise, but the art and animation look so good

[trail kite]

yeah

and Angelo have a good spotlight too

[trail kite]

also... GB have fire too

except...that's a different type of flame

[vale grove]

I saw my boys and I screamed of happiness 😍

[trail kite]

That Green flame from the cannon... and the flame that almost burn Angelo cape in the.. short

Me too... me proud

when me see Ferael

[languid panther]

Awww I just watched it and it's cute.

[civic geyser]

Hm

I need to see it

[dark heath]

Are there any evil wilders?

[civic geyser]

Just checked it out

It was beautiful

And no all the wilders, at least the playable ones, are inherently good

The dreafs are like a chaotic neutral at worst

And there was a discussion about sirens a while back but they're doing their own thing

[bleak hull]

No wilders are considerably evil however anything harmful things they cause is to protect the whole forest

Some people forget how many peoples blood has been on lyca's arrows

Same for any wilders protecting the borders

[civic geyser]

There are definitely some killers there but they have justifications at least

There's Saurus who was defending the weak after being caged

And mostly the Dusk patrol. Kaz, Lyca, and Ira are the more aggressive ones

Everyone else is happy and dandy

[sturdy nova]

Same, i wanted her to be a character as well

[sturdy nova]

Wuttt?

[crystal tapir]

I mean, it's not like Wilders are completely immune to darkness.

Dark Nemora and Dark Arden didn't just come out of nowhere.

Even if it does take a lot to push a Wilder to that level of despair.

[sturdy nova]

Where was this from please?

[crystal tapir]

(To tl:dr; Nemora became more and more aggressive and heartless as more and more of the forest fell under attack. Arden's fears about dying of old age were preyed on by a Hypogean when he was vulnerable. Both of these dark sides were expelled from their bodies as separate beings after outside intervention; from Ulmus for the former, from Nemora for the latter.)

[sturdy nova]

So ulmus >nemora> arden

Idk why but serius seems pretty dark to me for some reason

[forest oar]

Dolly has had a line for every hero that has been newly tevealed right? Does anyone know where one could look up the other voice lines? I'm interested what she said about Alna, Drez and Silas.

[bleak hull]

I remember alna's kind of but i cant remember drez and silas's

[bleak hull]

Thats in a different reality tho

Speaking about wilders and there borders ive been wanting to make a short piece of self imaginative lore of the day the wilders borders were breached by hypogeans

[crystal tapir]

We're not stopping you. Write fanfic to your heart's content.

[forest oar]

Is there any chance where I can look that up?

[forest oar]

Go ahead. Imagination is endless ^^

[gritty trail]

Back then, When izold came out there was additional files attacjed named "Izold" which featured a less well structured version of Oden without his eyes, at first it was presumed to be his beta design, few months later it turned out to be Oden

[sturdy nova]

Do u happen to have a screenshot sir/ma'am?

[forest oar]

I'd like to see that too!

[forest oar]

If anybody knows how to review those lines. I'd be very grateful. ^^

[trim shell]

👀

[gritty trail]

@sturdy nova closest thing I have right now was a rip from the game back in 2019

[gritty trail]

Also this

It's from their official art gallery before anniversary events started to go live

They have the link somewhere in #social-media-feed

Not too far into the old msgs so don't worry scrolling 15 different miles of messages

[sturdy nova]

She didn't have lines for every new hero

She teased theo after solise

So you get the occasional gossips from dolly

She didn't have a line for daimon either

[sturdy nova]

Thank you kind sir

[forest oar]

I kind of remember that from Solise. Never read Theowyn tho.
I like those gossip lines she has about some the characters.
Again. Would be happy to see Alna and Silas, if she said something about them.

[sturdy nova]

Theo's lines were something along the lines of " the bards have been singing the stories of The deceased princess" so poeple assumed it to be a gb cuz 'deceased' or from Kane's lore some hypo

[sturdy nova]

Alna was something like 'i can hear the song of winter, winter mother is ushering into another season of winter"

Solise was like " i met a wilder with 9 tails, how absurd, is that a common sight" (not exact words though)

[forest oar]

:0 Thank you very very much
Thanks for writing some of the lines. Do you still remember Silas if he had one? Or what it was about him?
And does anyone have Screenshots?

[bleak hull]

I think dolly still says elenards line

Or elnard i can't remember his name

[gritty trail]

Eluard

[bleak hull]

Yes him

[sturdy nova]

I don't think he had one

She had lines for mortas and respen too, even kren

[forest oar]

Yup. I saw them. Thank you anyways for pointing that out. She also says something about Raku and Peggy

[forest oar]

:') Oh ok. Still thank you. I was curious what she said about him tho.

[forest oar]

Does anybody know what she said? Or if you can look them. Up somewhere in a afk Library or anything where anyboice line might be stored

[sturdy nova]

If it were there, it must've been like a dead mad scientist is at large, run away if you hear weird laughs

[forest oar]

Pffffft hahahaha
Yeah probably something along those lines. XD
Thank you again!

[sturdy nova]

Credits: @spice mulch

Please the thank is needless, you're way too kind

Kren's was like ' a wanted durri guy had blasted someone'

[forest oar]

I still have a question. So after those characters aren't new anymore those gossip lines will be lost forever?
Or even for events. I kinda like these little details about one character commenting over another.
I think it's a pity of the lse things get lost. Would be cool to see a collection of these little aspects. It kind of gives the story little funfacts.
I mean they put so much effort sometimes into events and how they visually appear and all the scenery. I think it's just a shame to see things like that get to waste

[forest oar]

XD Kren being at it again!

[forest oar]

:0 So there is a library for these lines?

[gritty trail]

Lost forever, they only ever use gossip lines for teasing purposes

[forest oar]

And no. Please accept my humble thanks dear adventurer.
Thank you again :izoldlove:

[gritty trail]

Sometimes though characters get their own events

[forest oar]

Dawww. Still I like the teasing aspect

[gritty trail]

Izold and Tidus had a stargazer-like event once when they both came out

[forest oar]

Thank you too for sharing this information!
I don't know about others, but I kind of think things like these should be lost forever

[bleak hull]

Her peggy line always makes me laugh bc she never looks that dissapointed if not relieved

[silk widget]

@crystal tapir about dark nemora and the unhinged arden, they probably only exist in twisted realm just like ice shemira is... twisted realm is a twisted dimension between the dream realm and the real world. Things that exist in twisted realm doesnt necessarily exist in esperia

[bleak hull]

Ye there different realities

[twin herald]

Ulmus had a relationship with oden they created brutus

It's in the stories

[sturdy nova]

Oh wow

[sturdy nova]

Nah, i just found these screenn. Shots from saveas' thicc thighs posts

New butterfly celestial?

Flora's fren

[forest oar]

Posts on the in game community?

[sturdy nova]

Sorry? Didn't get you

It's from the samme alna-ezizh(like hypo) art

[bleak hull]

I think its just flora

Alna and her have been occoiatted in the past in lore

I think i heard something about that

Also who is this one fighting with, theyre facing the same as the hypos side but looks like a celestial

[zenith gorge]

So seirus is who killed nara.

[distant idol]

yeah

[dark heath]

I missed it/didnt get to screenshot it, but when i looked at the inn today Tidus seems to show/do a different emote when visiting Albedo

If anyone catches him visiting her again, please screenshot so we can see the emote

[spice mulch]

Hmmmmm

Gonna try

Regular emotion

Albedo visited him

Nope, nothing new

Albedo seems to hate him

Could it be this pose?

He yawns

[spiral matrix]

I have a theory

That

Antandra

Knows something that

We dont

When u seenher fighting while u r in the Campaign section

Sometimes she says

"Y often wonder about the child in the desert"

I*

Maybe one of the mauler heroes became her enemy because of her abandoning them?????

Idk

[silk widget]

Are you talking about antandra saving satrana?

[spiral matrix]

Omg i didnt think about that

[gritty trail]

[split iris]

What happens if you rip off Athalia's mask

[coral plume]

Tell me about Athalia.

Why does she wear the mask?

[sturdy nova]

Certainly not flora

[sturdy nova]

She's the new stargazer celes ig

[sturdy nova]

^

[bleak hull]

It could be 🤷‍♀️

[uneven echo]

Sometimes I wonder what goes on ainz ool gowns mind when he first appeared in Esperia. Wondering if he thinks that the land is just another part of the game he was originally in.

[bleak hull]

Read his lore has alot about him switching dimensions

[uneven echo]

Yep, still looking for his friends...

Er guildmates

[civic geyser]

I mean if by any chance he comes across other dimensionals he definitely will find humans form earth. Sadly not his guild mates

Now I wonder how everyone else thinks of him. Lorewise he's probably still busted op so he's probably helped a lot dealing wtih with the hypos

[bleak hull]

I dont think the dimensionals are assosiated with the hypogean war lore wise

[gritty trail]

Nakoruru is confirmed to deal with hypogeans, everyone else though no

Nako's reveal trailer and lore states the hypogeans somehow plagued her universe so she willingly entered the dimensional rift to fight back the hypogeans

[trail kite]

I think... Fera can sew his mouth back

[spiral matrix]

Why does Shemira wear a hat that covers her eyes

[forest oar]

I always read that she is blind.
Dont know if it's true.
But maybe because of that she covers her eyes

[spiral matrix]

I guess

But If shes blind

how does she see through that thing

[forest oar]

If she's blind she doesn't need to see through there anymore.

[gritty trail]

It's a visor, her old sketches/designs indicated there was supposed to be a creepy looking eye in the middle, though lore-wise she wasn't meant to have a visor rather more wraps covering her face

And yes she's also blind

[forest oar]

:0 Oh, do you know where one cam see the old sketches?
And when was it clearly stated that she was blind? In the Unionstory?
Oh and does that mean she can actually see her surroundings because of that mask(?) she wears?

[gritty trail]

It's uncertain if she can see or not, but iirc her main story lore indicates she lost vision otherwise I might be thinking of her winter lore, and union says she has something other than a visor on her face

Also lemme pull up the old thingies

[forest oar]

I always though because she cried her eyes out because of her loss, for both Niru and Daimon, was the reason why she got blind

[gritty trail]

I think that was a theory too around here

Though I did just wake up so bear in mind I won't get everything accurate

[forest oar]

Oh that's fine. Take you're time. Nobody frets you ^^

[gritty trail]

@forest oar

[forest oar]

Woah thanks!!!
Where did you search for that?

[gritty trail]

There's a website that has the the official artbook scanned (mostly females though) of concept art

I would post it here but the ads there are slightly oof

So I can dm it to thee if ye would like

[forest oar]

Yeah Thad be great.
Thank you!! ^^

[forest oar]

Oh and there's an Artbook??

[gritty trail]

Yeah but it's only sold in Taiwan I think?

So it isn't possible to obtain it easily

I don't have it myself either

Wish I did though

[vale grove]

I wanted that book, but for that I can't get it

[forest oar]

I see. Like yeah I wish there was. Even with the other characters Designs!!

[forest oar]

Dawww. Maybe it'll be released on English some time in the future?

[vale grove]

iirc I read in a tweet that they're going to release another, but I'm not sure...

It wasn't the official english account, I think it was another they have

[gritty trail]

@forest oar

Start of other pages too

Which has more

Thanks to Hodden

There's more scrolling down too

[forest oar]

In what translation are those details then?
Because most languages just translate from the English one, where all those details are already left out.

Who is Savagehorn?

Oh thanks again!
Doesn't anybody want to tell Lilith, that those details are kinda important or at least mentionable?

[vale grove]

Yeah, one friend told me that the Thane's lore changed a bit, but thta bit made completly different

And with Baden's too

[forest oar]

Yes true! And I hope they do that for other languages as well.
Its the little details that can turn a story and make a person appreciate it more

Still, I'd wish that they would show the non-jaoanese/Chinese Fandom these little details.
Oh btw, since you mention these details have they been discussed her in this server or were they translated on a homepage?

[forest oar]

Me neither :')

[silk widget]

I dont speak cn but i used an auto translating tool to read most of the cn lores and have found quite a lot interesting details that were left out in the eng lore.

Like how Kane look like a good person turned hypogean due to the king's betrayal

Or gwyn is friend with peggy in gwyn lore

And apparently lorsan is the wilder mage that was mentioned in rosaline lore

Baden regained his consciousness and used the lich's spirit as his shadow clone weapon

[quasi wedge]

some version of an artbook is being sold in japan rn on preorder

[silk widget]

And a lot of other small and big details that were left out

[quasi wedge]

no idea if it's the same old one or an updated one

[spice mulch]

Seems to be an updated one

[torn finch]

I just read alna's story

that was beautiful

OH BTW I HAD A QUESTION
are graveborn evil? And if yes do they assist the hypogeans?

[spice mulch]

Nope

No one really assists the hypogeans

[trail kite]

GB aren't evil

They have their own conflict

[bleak hull]

Well the kingdom of bantus are considerably evil

Also graveborn are like spiders, they mind their own buisness but people are still scared of them none the less

[torn finch]

So if you leave a graveborn and a normal person in a room nothing would happen?

[bleak hull]

Well the normal person would be absolutely terrified

You would too if you saw a walking corpse talking to you

And what the graveborn would do would depend on who it is

[torn finch]

Ok fair but, wouldn't that person die?

Its ur everyday person

Nobody knows them

[bleak hull]

Different graveborns have different intentions

[torn finch]

They're the most boring person ever

[bleak hull]

Most would only kill if theyre disrupted

[torn finch]

Is there a graveborn person who'd kill on sight

[bleak hull]

Probably

[torn finch]

Do u know of anyone?

[bleak hull]

Hmm

Thoran or grezhul might?

[torn finch]

Wat about the bat guy

The uh lord vampire thing

[bleak hull]

Ah so silvina (his adoptive daughter) kills humans once a month to retrieve blood for a ritual to keep vedan a graveborn

Since vedan never died

Hes graveborn by the act of a ritual

[torn finch]

I might need to read more lore about thay

Btw uhm is there like uhm

An "active" lore

Like does it progress

[bleak hull]

Im not sure what you mean

[torn finch]

Like an ongoing story

[bleak hull]

Well no

You see different peices of lore all around the game

And none of them are really an ongoing story

All past tense

Or present

[torn finch]

So if i wanna know what happened to the dwarf guy in alna's story theres no way for me to tell

[bleak hull]

No one knows he most likely survived

He told the story in a past tense

So ye

[torn finch]

Thats config

Fug auto correct

Confusing*

[bleak hull]

Basically he was on the mountain writing what we read

[torn finch]

Yeah i got that part

He was writing to alna about going south to retrieve his land

But there was no tale about how that went

[bleak hull]

Well really no lore goes like that

It's all past tense lore

[torn finch]

Its still good

[silk widget]

@torn finch the dwarf guy in alna looks like a future playable hero.

[torn finch]

Hes a commander of an army, so he must be goog right?
We havent had dwarf heroes before right?

[silk widget]

Well we have that fodder hero who is a dwarf. His name is morvus

[spice mulch]

We also have campaign dwarf enemies

[torn finch]

So no actual L+ or A heroes

[spice mulch]

They are supposed to have a L skin too

[torn finch]

I wonder how alna became a celestial

They mention that she got demoted to a demigod but no details at all

Other than that she lost people close to her

[forest oar]

Maybe Silas as well, if he's short on Testsubjects?

[civic geyser]

Izold seems to have a short circuit after he became a frankenstein's monster

Considering his battle lust is basically reignited and based on inn dialogue, he gets irritated easily

[torn finch]

So graveborn are evil

[civic geyser]

Only some

They're like chaotic neutral at worst

Actually no there are some inherently evil gb

[torn finch]

Like?

[civic geyser]

Torne, Nara, Silas

[torn finch]

Wat bout oden

[civic geyser]

Him too

Oden is like a lawful evil

[torn finch]

Bruh that's like

They're frikn evil

Its not that some are bad

Some are good

[civic geyser]

A few are revived for good reason

Aside from the entire forsaken family

Kelthur just wants revenge on whoever wronged him

Grehzul became the embodiment of "I simp for my king so hard I became immortal"

Thoran was revived with good intentions but seems to be a happy king no more

Long story short: the gb are mostly neutral in comparison to other factions. Some fall into evil, some are good guys, but a lot of them mind their own busienss

[distant tiger]

From what I understand, while the graveborn are not inherently evil at the point of their deaths, they do come back with a rather altered sense of the world.
For one, they lose memories when they 'cross over' but retain some really strong feelings like sadness and anger.

[trail kite]

don't forget Baden

even he is free from the control

[distant tiger]

If I'm not wrong, Grezhul and Thoran went on a killing spree to turn the whole of Bantus GB

[trail kite]

after being betrayed by his brother

[distant tiger]

Must have been quite a time to live in Bantus

[trail kite]

Theowyn is... she witnessed

[distant tiger]

I think the lore talks about a special place where the 'free' GB go

like those who managed to escape Quaedams control

[trail kite]

I can't describe something as a paragraph like everyone.. so I can say some short word

[distant tiger]

Oh right, the GB who are free are called the Tainted

they hide on the island of the Banished

[trail kite]

yeah... sometimes.. there will be conflict

between GB

[distant tiger]

Yeah, so the Tainted actually wish to be set free from the curse of being Graveborn, but Thoran keeps trying to make peopleGB

[trail kite]

so about.. Baden
is he totally free or still beings control... even he is free

[distant tiger]

Depends on which lore you read
In the Eng lore he's half free
In the Cn lore I think he's fully free. Need to check that again

[trail kite]

also is LB society accept GB?

because... I kinda confuse about the last years Single day quotes

[distant tiger]

I don't remember reading any lore about that

What I do know is that some of the GB try to be terrifying
to scare people away as they research how to get rid of the curse

[trail kite]

I thought about some GB try to be blend with LB society...
And some are like...migrate like escape from Bantus and Island of banished

it's like LB society and Temple of Light kinda think GB are as evil as the hypogean

[distant tiger]

I don't think I've seen very much lore about what the LB think about the GB
except that they smell bad

[trail kite]

and look terrible

and kids may cry

[civic geyser]

It's just speculation to me but they might be chill

In official arts works they hang around the tavern and nobody really minds

Then again so do the hypos so I might be reaching

[trail kite]

Yeah...they kinda chill tho

[spiral matrix]

I think Satrana doesn't wear underpants

lol

because

her pants

look like

they r super light

and you can sort of see her butt :/

[sturdy nova]

Nara

[spiral matrix]

yea

Nara's weird tho

:/

[civic geyser]

In her defense she was raised in a kill or be killed world

So she exploited that and well, became a gothic mafia boss undead pirate waifu

The real oddity is how she fucking found JEANS

I refuse to let that go

[crystal tapir]

Probably ran into some unlucky Dimensional.

[crystal tapir]

I think we can infer that they aren't very welcome in LB society, considering necromancy is idiotically punishable by death. And we know they do clash; it's mentioned in Ice Shemira's background that Niru's fascination with GB came from observing the ones he was fighting against.

[distant tiger]

Mmm... Yeah
I think as with most humans there will always be people who are against it and people who are interested in it

[torn finch]

Lore wise, whos the current stronkest person

[distant tiger]

I mean there are those who practice necromancy, so part of LB society probably welcomes the GB

But I do think the GB the LB normally encounter are the ones who come from Bantus? Who are quite bent on making everyone GB.

Or the guys like Vedan who do the blood rituals and use human sacrifices

[bleak hull]

One of the celestials or hypogeans

[sturdy nova]

Dura op

[torn finch]

She ded

[sturdy nova]

U never mentioned alive

Also, is the english lore for peggy too confusing or is she actualy angelo's daughter?

[bleak hull]

Is angelo the king of ranhorn?

No

[bleak hull]

Shes not dead she just doesn't have enough power to reside in a physical form

[bleak hull]

Graveborns are entirely neutral, they are just like spiders, people are petrified of them when really your the one disturbing them

Some wanted to be graveborn for power but that was just theyre personality as a human

[torn finch]

Some would kill on sight

Thats pretty evil

[bleak hull]

Nearly every celestial would kill on sight aswell

[torn finch]

Wat why

[bleak hull]

1. Hypogeans exist

In the video desperation, zaphrael instantly murders a bunch of cultists

[torn finch]

I mean athalia is pretty narcissistic so she believes she is righteousness itself but not all right ...?

[bleak hull]

There are people in every faction that would kill on sight, half of the in game graveborns never even asked to be resurrected, being graveborn isnt a gift its a curse

[torn finch]

I guess so but those are evil too

[bleak hull]

She doesnt see mortals the same way dura did but dura ascended her to defend the mortal and divine realm

[torn finch]

U cant say "killing isnt bad cuz everyone does it" that doesnt change that its evil

[bleak hull]

Just bc some graveborns do it doesnt mean graveborns in general are evil everyone in afk arena kills bc they need to

[bleak hull]

Ok then Lightbearers are evil, maulers are evil, wilders are evil, celestials are evil

Theyve all killed but they are living in a war

[sturdy nova]

Ok ok ok,
This is angelo telling peggy and rowan's story to his daughter

[torn finch]

Not on sight

[sturdy nova]

The real question now is,, who is his daughter?

[torn finch]

Lucretia

Yes, shes 12

[bleak hull]

You really arent good with what is evil and what isnt

Read these characters lore before you say they are all evil

Even lucretia has her own reasons for killing

[torn finch]

Revenge mainly

On gods and zaphrael

[bleak hull]

She hates zaphrael the most and she'll kill anyone if theyre in her way of killing him

You cant say a whole faction is evil bc they kill

They are all in a war and they do what they need to do

[torn finch]

And she will, shes the most op hero rn

[bleak hull]

Shes not really the most powerful hero

[torn finch]

Luc doesnt need to get revenge, she chose her own war and therefore she chose her own victims

[bleak hull]

A miraculously dangerous hypoegean but not the powerfullest

[bleak hull]

Her whole reason of letting herself become a hypo was to kill zaphrael and she will do anything to make that happen

[torn finch]

Including killing bystanders

Which is evil

[bleak hull]

Yes obviously shes evil but graveborns are a whole different story

[torn finch]

Ur pfp reminds me of a meme

[bleak hull]

Ok

Off topic but ok

[torn finch]

😔

[bleak hull]

Btw on the topic of the most powerful hero in game would probably be othoros as his power over time itself

But most powerful out of all lore characters probably annih and dura

[civic geyser]

Yup

Orthros and Zolrath are just aaaaaaaa

Love their designs, they're OP, and their battle during the Angelo vid was 👏

[bleak hull]

Angelo's vid?

Is there an animation like desperation?

[gritty trail]

It's just a very small animation

Nothing grand grand

Like desperation

It's on their youtube and also in their #social-media-feed

[civic geyser]

I'd like a video like desperation

But something in another hero's lore

I wanna see the fall of Bantus and the bootleg red wedding where everyone literally dies

[crystal tapir]

Not counting Cele/Hypo/Dims, I'll always argue that the canonically strongest hero is Pippa, even if she doesn't entirely realize it.

I even drew something a while back to illustrate exactly what that sentence implies.

[civic geyser]

Oh FUCK

Oh wait the only downside is that she doesn't have Ainz's sig so she needs to do the 5 second chant

But she can still do The Goal of all life is Death which is just as powerful

Fuck it

Pippa of the Sharingan

[bleak hull]

If she mastered her ability to mimic almost any heroes ult she would be op af

[bleak hull]

Same i would love to see a video of what happens in lucius and Belinda's union lore

Also pippas special ability only applies to mages

Well mage like abilities

[crystal tapir]

With how powerful and versatile magic can be, she might even potentially be like Mehira in that the only thing stopping her from using her power to take over everything is just not being interested in it.

[bleak hull]

Although her talent to mimic others abilities is none the less powerful the user with the power variates alot on thier power too pippa's just one person only so much she can do

As she is wilder her magic comes from nature and energy with isnt infinite

[crystal tapir]

Yeah. But she's definitely one of the most powerful mages in Esperia, at any rate.
Especially since (judging from her furniture ability) she tinkers with the spells she mimics and improves them.

[cloud nova]

Cloud clones pippa sounds... terryfiying too
Fallen down + brutus immprtality (if that counts as a 'spell')

[crystal tapir]

Luckily for everyone, she would probably just use most of the spells for mundane things.
Like wanting to learn how to make cloud clones in order to give herself people to play board games with or something.

[bleak hull]

If she doesnt turn herself into a cloud in the process

[silk widget]

Dolly is older than lorsan, and i lol at rigby's suggestion

[civic geyser]

Every gold coins adds a year to Rowan's age

[trail kite]

One... Thing I would like too say

No one is good or evil

just Gray mortality and bad action

Example like Celestial... of course they look good but...

they're not good. nor evil

[sturdy nova]

That made me smile ear to ear, soooo pippa

[trail kite]

so Pippa can mimic other heroes ult

[dark heath]

Pippa's trait of learning spells by watching others cast it seems to be a typical trait for the talented mage trope. I first encountered this trope when looking at Nino from the GBA game Fire Emblem: The Blazing Blade, where she never learned how to read but could cast magic anyway from watching others practice.

Ironically, Nino's one of the worst units in the game for fast runs.

Following a response to the "powerful characters" discussion, if indirectly powerful characters count (characters who are not strong by themselves but have lots of allies, or charisma or good leadership skills to the point where powerful characters are willing to ally with them or even defect to them), Skriath is probably not anywhere near the bottom because he was able to diplomatically unify mauler tribes to end his own tribe's invading, even when he had nothing at the beginning.

After all, being able to nuke a mountain by bending your pinky finger is one thing, but being charismatic enough to convince guys who can do that to be loyal to you is something else.

I suppose that also makes other leader, leading-figure, or influential characters like Numisu, Lyca, Vedan and Arthur to have indirect strength.

[civic geyser]

Hm

Perhaps that would mean the strongest characters are those who have both battle power and high stats in charisma

[distant tiger]

Vedan is strong in his own way
He makes me cringe
That is a power in itself

[civic geyser]

The power to cringe is a strength beyond any other

I was thinking about it and

I completely forgot Pippa's ultimate was to copy one of three abilities

[trail kite]

Vedan strong for blood sacrifice

and being a greedy boo boo

[forest oar]

I just stared at that sentence and died internally.
This is so accurate XD

[forest oar]

Is there an actual list of Graveborn who are "Tainted" ? Or at least who is free?
Because I don't really understand who is seen as free in the Graveborn lore

[trim shell]

It's a little nebulous

We know Isa, vedan, ferael, Silas, izold, and some more should be

[distant tiger]

I don't think it's mentioned anywhere. But Ferael and Baden (to some extent) retained their free will and were turned graveborn against their wishes

[trail kite]

Isa, Silvina and Vedan are another GB

[distant tiger]

Vedan, Silas and Izold wanted to be GB, so I'm not sure if they fit the bill

[forest oar]

So would the one who willingly became Graveborn be Tainted?

[trail kite]

GB for me are not a race...it's another stage of dead

[distant tiger]

The tainted are those who were unwilling and are researching a way to get rid of the curse of not being able to die

[trail kite]

so those two are... free GB

some are... free from the cursed... some are stay

[forest oar]

So what about those ones?
I don't really remember what happened to Isabella and Vedan,
But Izold became a Graveborn because of Silas' experimenting on him.
Silas himself became a Graveborn to spite Death and continue his research, so he traded something to the Necromancer in Bantus.

[distant tiger]

Vedan is a leader of a cult that specialises in blood rituals
It's the ritual that turns people GB
I think the followers are categorised as the Spiritualist

Silas and Izold should belong to another group of GB called the metamorphs, who mix necromancy and alchemy to enhance the state of being gb

[trim shell]

I put vedan and Isa there because they are, in my interpretation of things, not actually dead yet

[trail kite]

they use ritual for immortal

[forest oar]

Is this written somewhere?
Where do the categories "spiritualist and metamorphs" coming from?
Are these thing written in Loreposts?

[distant tiger]

Official lore posts

[trim shell]

Izold Silas i just put because I'm not as familiar with the relations between the random necromancers he encountered and quaedam

[trim shell]

Facebook lore posts

[forest oar]

Ah ok. Can one read them anywhere else?

[distant tiger]

Yeah just Google official AFK graveborn lore
It's scattered in a few sections

[forest oar]

But did they die at any point in their life?

[forest oar]

Oh thank you!

Is it this one?
And can someone tell me if they're in the correct reading order?

https://www.afkarena.net/lore

[distant tiger]

They are short pieces that can stand alone

But it's good to start with the origins of the gb

[trim shell]

Silas did

[forest oar]

Thank you very much!!

[trim shell]

Izold technically never died

[forest oar]

[trim shell]

He was just sorta reconstructed

[distant tiger]

Um, we don't really know if Silas died or not
He just 'became' graveborn
But he was on the verge of dying when he managed to contact the necromancers

[trim shell]

Well they are necromancers

[distant tiger]

So he may or may not have died

[trim shell]

So it's safe to assume he died

[forest oar]

Really?
In his story it's mentioned that he was at the brink of death and then sought out the Necromancers

[forest oar]

Oop sorry for repeating.

[trim shell]

I mean, what's a necromancer gonna do to a living person

[distant tiger]

It's unclear if some GB actually died
Like Isabella, Silas, Izold and Ferael

[forest oar]

Maybe turn them into a Graveborn without dying?

[distant tiger]

There is a certain ritual mentioned in the lore that Vedan used that seems to require human sacrifices

It's probably that ritual Vedan used on isa

[agile tartan]

What's anniversary 24th?

[forest oar]

But that could also mean that he traded his knowledge to keep on living as a Graveborn.
So we still don't know if he actually died

[trim shell]

Ferael died

[trim shell]

Necromancy is death magic
I think it's safe to assume that the people who use death magic would have to kill him to use their magic

[distant tiger]

Oh right, yeah he did

[forest oar]

So it's safe that he died?

[trim shell]

Yeah I think so

A lot of it is up to personal interpretation

[forest oar]

Hmm

[distant tiger]

So yeah, here's the thing, I wonder if that is always the case
Because from what I read from the blood rituals maybe you can have a substitute

But I'm not sure

[trim shell]

I mean yeah, but I think that's more applicable to vedan/Isa
Since with Silas it's implied that he died and was resurrected

[forest oar]

Would Izold have died as well?
He never made a deal with a necromancer.
But we don't know how Silas experimented on Izold.

[trim shell]

Well at the end of the day it's very nebulous

And whatever you want to say goes

When thinking about izold I'm reminded of the ship of Theseus

And that whole thing

[torn finch]

I hate that sort of lore, like the one up to personal interpretation
It leaves too much as vague and unsolved

[trim shell]

But I do think that izold didn't die

[forest oar]

I kind like the mystery of some Graveborn. Not knowing if they actually died or not.
For me it think I like it more not knowing about Silas

[distant tiger]

Yeah, it's inconclusive
And Vedan and Silas are from groups with opposing necromancy philosophies

[trim shell]

Given that he doesn't like, work, because of magic

But because of "science"

And Silas' research and tech is what made izold, not magic--so I lean towards thinking izold never died

Especially since he still has a brain

[torn finch]

Wat about silas? Is he dead?

[forest oar]

You mean Silas?
I get the part of not liking magic, but what do you mean with work?

[forest oar]

Some say yes, some say no.
We all agree it'll stay a mystery

[trim shell]

When I say "work" I mean what makes izold function

[forest oar]

A brain in a jar XD

[forest oar]

Thank you for explaining ^^

[unique remnant]

╭∩╮(ಠ_ಠ)╭∩╮

[trail kite]

Fera is pretty conflict too...
he get coma then get better by the enchantress then she kill him, he returns as GB then kill her and dispose her body

[forest oar]

It's like he used an Uno reverse card on the enchantress

[civic geyser]

Instant karma

Of all the gb stories, that enchantress definitely had it coming

[trail kite]

cn said... dispose the evidence

[forest oar]

PFFFFT XD

[trail kite]

Well... His belt are make from that enchantress's bone...

and some of his deco are bone too

a Screenshot from an old post

[distant tiger]

This is me when I read his cn lore

Like that was a very dramatic breakup
over a scam romance

[civic geyser]

I'd be pissed too if I got catfished

[distant tiger]

I know...
but to decide to sew up your lips?
Like why are you taking it out on yourself?
All the drama

Go do something more productive, like stress eat or something

[trail kite]

also... I think he is very savage for some points

he is very disgust about it... and regret it

and that sewed mouth is my favorite part of his design

and I like him more

also he got catfished so he regret it

in the savage way

[distant tiger]

Hahahah, yeah, I like the sewed mouth design
Oh but dude, you could be eating roast duck
But you threw away a lifetime of eating roast duck over a scam romance

Like roast duck will never betray you

[civic geyser]

I don't like the taste of duck

Oh that's just me

[distant tiger]

Fereal and Kelthur always make a meat sign when they see Rowan in the inn so I'm just assuming they like duck

[civic geyser]

Oh d e a r

[forest oar]

Can that be read somewhere else too?
Or just when you translate the Chinese into English?

[bleak hull]

its unclear or even told that vedan did the ritual on Isabella, the whole point he adopted silvina and isa was so he could achive the ritual, although hes a talented graveborn hes not a necromancer, how ever Isabella is so he adopted isa to complete the ritual and trained silvina to fetch the blood needed

[wide hinge]

Lucretia lore got very interesting to me and I did this meme.

[bleak hull]

Imagine if the twin terrors took owains body as a vessel instead and then zaphrael had to fight a psychotic seven year old

[crystal tapir]

(To the person I accidentally pinged, I apologize.)

Basically Ferael: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WyTSGEJc3PI

[sturdy nova]

Lucid ily🌻😆, humour on point

[sturdy nova]

Would he be psychotic though,afaik luc is psychotic only because her sole motive is revenge from zaph, and twin terrors decided to aid her for their pass to esperia, but owain didn't have a motive/obsession ,and would he be possessed? I don't know why if they needed a 'vessel' for twin terrors to arrive, they chose a child over an adult or sth? Because if that was so, then they could have chosen a physically strong person for added strength points, they'd have come as two entities or maybe one single (since considering they merge into luc after ult)

Also, is one of the terrors one that was behind mortas? Could've been right? And and and Lucretia isn't bad, it's the twin terrors that force her to seek revenge

[bleak hull]

I just said "if" and i was joking

[sturdy nova]

But i am seriously questioning

[bleak hull]

Shes not forced but they enhanced her hatred enough for her to not hold back

[tropic glade]

I believe human Lucretia didn't want to fight Zapharael either, but run away and cry (again). The twin terrors gave her a motive by enhancing her ire. They probably would do the same with Owain if he had survived given that his own dad tried to kill him. So yes, Zaphrael would had to fight a psychotic seven years old

[bleak hull]

I was saying that as a joke also owain was being used a sacrifice to feed the twins not as a vessel they only used lucretia bc they were so weak from zaphraels huge blow

[tropic glade]

Yeah, but you said as a vessel, not sacrifice.

And yes, those are a lot of words for a joke 🙃

[bleak hull]

Yes bc i was saying what IF they used him as vessel

I didnt say they were

[trail kite]

he just hungry... and become a canibal for that...
i saw him with Eironn in Inn is like.... shape

like this

[trail kite]

or like this recent moments

[sturdy nova]

Are you sure it wasn't being a vessel? Sine the lore has words like 'flesh and blood being mixed with hypogean' sounds like a vessel though

[mossy parcel]

Isnt that what happened. . ? Owain was gonna be a vessel, which is why Zaph fried him, and then they ended up using Lucretia instead?

[civic geyser]

Ferron moments

[trail kite]

GB aren't evil than they thought... except for some

[bleak hull]

The towns people fed the twin terrors to keep them alive there not using him as a vessel but more of taking his energy, they would need a bigger vessel in order to make their accomplishments also the towne people have done it before so if all the sacrifices were vessels why would they need new ones

They took over lucretia bc

1. They were weak
2. She had a motive

If lucretia lasted as a hypogean for hundreds of years there should be no reason the towns people would have to give the twins another's vessel

[sturdy nova]

But well in zaph's lore it does sound/read like owain is possessed

The twin terrors made him speak 'daddy' and zaph detected the sly in him and so zap-ed him

[civic geyser]

Gordon Ramsay next celestial hero confirmed

[forest oar]

What is he going to do? Throw Frying pans at you like Rowan?
Scream at you to decrease your Defense like Brutus?
What would his ultimate be?

[civic geyser]

He probably literally Roasts the opponent so hard they get stunned and burnt

[vocal portal]

sandwiches two pieces of bread for trap effect

[civic geyser]

He probably cooks food to restore team every few seconds

[vocal portal]

ult: throws a plate of food that's 'disgusting' to the enemy, and the enemy gets one shotted

[trail kite]

heal the team... check

YELL at the enemies... double check

Call them an idiot sandwich... triple check

[civic geyser]

His SI: Michelin star

Whenever an opponent restores HP for the first time, he activates his ultimate regardless of energy requirement

Like how he critics others' food

[vocal portal]

how u think of my ult idea

[civic geyser]

Hn

Maybe not one shot but definitely high damagr

Like Ainz but single target

[vocal portal]

better make sure its not aoe

[civic geyser]

Furniture : attacks become AoE

[vocal portal]

oh

uhhhhh

that might be a bit broken

[civic geyser]

Okay wait

[vocal portal]

depending on radius

actually

[civic geyser]

3/9 furniture:
After using his ultimate ability for the first time, enemy team hp and energy recovery decreased by ?% until the end of battle

Idk

[vocal portal]

first time using his ult, he gets angry and haste and resistance boost

[civic geyser]

Ooh

[vocal portal]

that will be second onward

[civic geyser]

So like Lucretia

[vocal portal]

basically

gordon ramsay will be warrior class, continuous dam

[civic geyser]

With health related buffs and debufss because chef

[vocal portal]

i know

with his daughter opposing him, his haste and energy recovery reduces

maybe, maybe not

im just throwing ideas

[civic geyser]

Idk, I doubt his daughter would be playable

Maybe a Dolly situation

I love how we really just made a full skillset, SI and class for a joke

[forest oar]

I mean yeah, why not. Could be useful in the future XD
But I don't really see him as a celestial. If anything I'd say he's a Hypogean.
Celestials are seen as divine beings.
Hypogeans are creatures from Hell/the Underworld.
So referring to "Hells Kitchen"
I would see him as a hypo.
For the Ultimate I really like the ideas above!

[civic geyser]

Wait that's genius

A demon straight from Hell's Kitchen

I need to list the whole thing down

Ramsay
Devil of Hell's Kitchen

Faction: Hypogean
Class: Warrior
Strength-based Hero
Role: Continuous Damage

Ultimate Ability: RAW Power
The first time Ramsay activates this ability, he becomes enraged, raising his attack and defense rating by 30% as well as reducing the duration of all control abilities used on him by half.

When this ability is used again, Ramsay uses up his food stocks to create a putrid dish, launching it at the enemy with the lowest HP percentage for 360% damage
Lvl 2- The first time he uses this ability, he gains 20 crit amp points and 30 haste points.
Lvl 3- Putrid dish damage increased to 480%

Ability 1: Idiot Sandwich
Ramsay forces several frying pans onto the enemy closest to him, forcing them to be pushed directly in front of him and dealing 240% damage upon impact. Damage is increased by 5% depending on how many food stocks are present, capping out at 300%
Lvl 2- Damage is increased by 10% depending on food stocks, capping at 360%
Lvl 3- Ability now gathers the two closest heroes to be in front of him, however the farther hero will receive half the damage.
Lvl 4- If Ramsay has more than 12 food stocks present, this ability will also cause them to be knocked down for 2 seconds.

[agile tartan]

the swearing chef

yeah i do like that guy

WHERE'S THE LAM SAUCE?!!

i used to watch him

[south yew]

holy crap that is amazing

[agile tartan]

but ye gordan ramsay god hero

[civic geyser]

Added second ability

[south yew]

This is hilarious

[civic geyser]

Ability 2: Lamb Sauce Lacerations
Ramsay screams out painful roasts, dealing 200% damage to all enemies as well as giving nearby enemies burns that deal 30% damage per second over 5 seconds.
Lvl 2- damage increased to 230%. Burns last up to 8 seconds.
Lvl3- damage increased to 260%. If an enemy dies while the burn is active, nearby enemies will become terrified for 2 seconds and run away from Ramsay.

Passive: World-Class Cuisine
Every second, Hell's kitchen blesses Ramsay with 1 food stock. For every 2 food stocks present on the battlefield, all allies will slowly heal 1% of their max hp every second. For every 3 food stocks present on the battle field, enemies will lose 5 defense points and 2 haste points. Caps out at 12 food stocks.
Lvl 2- capacity increased to 18 food stocks. When Ramsay's ultimate ability is used for the first time, 2 food stock is added per second instead of 1.
Lvl 3- capacity increased to 24 food stocks. When stocks reach 12 and beyond, all allies normal attacks have a chance to poison the enemy.

Remember his ultimate uses up all food stocks hence why it has to be restocked.

Description- It is said that these cursed icons are the source of Ramsay's power. The more that exist in the world, the stronger he becomes.

When unlocked: Gains ability "Taste Tester"
When an opponent heals HP for the first time, Ramsay will activate his ultimate ability regardless of energy requirement and will not use up food stocks.

+10- The second time Ramsay uses his ultimate ability, only half of his energy and food stocks will be used.

+20- The first time he uses his ultimate ability, the ally with the highest attack rating besides himself will gain the effects of RAW power

+30- The second time he uses his ultimate ability, if the opponent targeted dies, they will cause a small explosion that gives enemies a burn and deals 180% damage.```