and... bet Respen is 20 ish
#afk-lore
trail kite
dark heath
The forest heroes seem like they might all know each other, tbh
Even if its not canon
They are after all in pursuit of protecting the forest
Why wouldnt they all be friends
distant idol
well lorsan knows kaz
dark heath
Or allies
jaunty nacelle
well lorsan knows kaz
^^^
distant idol
kaz knows lyca who knows arden
jaunty nacelle
And Lyca knows the person sitting on her 24/7
distant idol
arden knows nemora and eironn ans basically everyone
dark heath
trail kite
Wilder are forest folk and their help each other
distant idol
they're basically all connected through arden except for seirus and gorvo iirc
dark heath
yes my favorite character is lyca, the person riding her is ok too ig
jaunty nacelle
<:homegalul:646471490560196609> yes my favorite character is lyca, the person ri...
spice mulch
Maybe Respen is an elemental like some people are theorizing
dark heath
Thats also possible
distant idol
elemental twink
spice mulch
Maybe he is the new wind elemental
dark heath
Though, i do think that respen and eironn might know each other
Since eironn's lore states he was chosen by the wind or sum
distant idol
eironns bf
spice mulch
Respen has no horns
distant idol
eironn and respen dont look at all similar
dark heath
Lorsan gonna be kicked outta the team, Respen is eironn's new mage bff
jaunty nacelle
trail kite
Ferael and his two wind bf
trail kite
wind twink
dark heath
I am so pumped
jaunty nacelle
Y’all too horny
dark heath
Release wind boy now
civic geyser
Lets see
Nemora, Ogi, and Arden are in union
Most of the Wilders know Arden, he's basically the wise sensei
spice mulch
Now wilders will have another twink
dark heath
Like its confirmed
Give us union already
dark heath
Eironn respen do be cute tho 😳
civic geyser
Maybe they'll give another lab made graveborne abd get a triple hero union
dark heath
Yeah and just keep ignoring LB till 2022
civic geyser
Also we need a Durri union with Drez, Skreg, abd Kren
dark heath
Fair, those three arent in a union yet
civic geyser
Kinda thought Vurk and Skreg should have been in union. They're literally brothers
jaunty nacelle
Vurk is already in another union
spice mulch
Vurk has cool friends
civic geyser
Mmm
trail kite
duo heroes union
shy lantern
lol thx guys for help
im planning to also give him tatoos on hands and arms
anyway thank You for Your opinnion
You guys helped me a lot
have a nice day/goodnight
civic geyser
Gn
dark heath
wut
dark heath
Respen is confirmed to have been a friend of khazard before he became a hypo (its unclear if respen thinks khazard of a friend still but we can guess they aint so good in the friendship dept.)
But this means that Respen is also an elemental or keeper/guardian of the elements like Khazard was a guardian of the ocean
And as per usual fanatasy mumbo jumbo elementals live longer than humans and never age/age slowly and then die
In Khazard's lore it is said he replaced an old guardian, so in this universe at least, elementals/guardians arent immortal
They 'pass on'
And get a new guardian
dire imp
That would explain how he has no animal features
dark heath
Yeah
spice mulch
He has mini wings on his arms
spice mulch
I already looked up most of his lore
spice mulch
Khazard tried to kill him
dire imp
He has mini wings on his arms
Im pretty sure those are just arm accessories
dire imp
What can khazard (the water element) teach someone to be a wind element
trail kite
control his mood
dire imp
Well that questions if respen ever had a bad mood
spice mulch
He taught him how to control his powers
dire imp
They were both elemental keepers when they were friends i dont think Khazard would spend time teaching a different element when he had his own duties aswell
dire imp
He taught him how to control his powers
Oh?
spice mulch
It said his mood caused storms to happen
dire imp
Oooh
How could khazard teach him how to use his powers though 
Khazard never was nor ever will be the wind element keeper/guardian or whatever he is
So how could he teach what he doesnt know
trail kite
he control the wind... through his mood
khazard used to br his teacher until turned into an actual ice demon
dire imp
If you can confirm that now why did you ask before?
trail kite
also....
Hello Ferronnpen
silk widget
Do you guy want me to post the respen's lore?
dire imp
Yus
silk widget
trail kite
yes
dire imp
Thank you
dark heath
Thank youuuuu
silk widget
Gotta read it now. Seem like a very good lore
trail kite
that's 💖
dark heath
man i feel really bad i cant get his moving icon, its too cool
trail kite
That's a heroes has been betrayed by someone
trail kite
But worse than that... That person was the one who raised him, who taught him
dark heath
trail kite
also that cute
dire imp
Wait is talene the fire elemental guardian 
dark heath
I dont think so
She is just said to be an obsidian finch
dire imp
Oh
dark heath
Before being a phoenix
trail kite
Ferael and Respen: Being betrayed by someone club, also Lucretia
dire imp
Also Theowyn
Wait wouldnt seirius have been born during Respens lore bc seirius is the water element after khazard
deft ledge
Hi, i wanted to know the lore behind the game, but i also dont know where to start reading so that i wont mix everything up. Any recommendations?
dark heath
I dont think you'd get too confused. I started reading from heroe's personal lores, it was easy to piece who knows who or related
deft ledge
Aight, I see. Thank you 
silk widget
Damn... recent lores are so good
@deft ledge just choose a faction and start reading all the hero lores from that faction. Then move on to another faction. And there are also the lores for the origins of graveborn and maulers posted on afk arena official fb page
Did respens counter attack kill Khazard as a result?
I hope there will be some union lores for respen and khazard
dark heath
Well
Considering khazard is still alive
Im guessing no
Unless theyre doing another thing like with luc and zaph again
Where theyre actually dead or sum 
trim shell
Finally more elemental lore
And it's not inherently contradictory with anything else we have
silk widget
Good read 😻
dark heath
I dont know how to feel about zaph and luc lore ever since their union story
Like
When did it happen then
silk widget
@dark heath 1600 years ago
dark heath
So they are dead
trim shell
Not necessarily
silk widget
@dark heath probably still sealed in the barred gate
silk widget
@trim shell can we assume it was not fully broken? Maybe the weaker hypo can get out but the strong ones still stuck in that dimension
trim shell
I think there's no reason to believe that it wasn't fully opened
Next hero all but confirmed to be LB
Unless we are getting teased incredibly hard here.
dark heath
'disciples of the light' sounds like another temple related LB like belinda or ceci
Hopefully a second LB mage
silk widget
Another member of the temple of thr light huh
trim shell
The protection thing makes me think they'll be a tank
silk widget
Hopefully a new mage for lb. The other 3 factions all have more than 2 mages but lb only has one
I just want to bring up this subject. Since Respen is an elemental guardian, he is not an original wilder.
dark heath
Hmm fair
Like seirus he probably also got accepted into wilders
Maybe we'll learn who let him in from a union with eironn cough cough
silk widget
@dark heath yeah seirus lore did say that
civic geyser
Jesus christ that was a long read
How do you have the time to discuss these
I love it but damn
Glad to get more insight on Khazard too
dark heath
Yeah thats probably the longest hero story ive read
I was like
'wait these pages are all for the same hero?'
civic geyser
I was thinking less on the lore itself
And more on this actual conversation
Because wow
dark heath
Lol
I like characters even if im not invested on what series/show/game theyre from
Thats just me though, i love character design and stories
dire imp
I just want to bring up this subject. Since Respen is an elemental guardian, he ...
The wilders probably celebrate his special day the most since there more connected with nature then other factions
Also since his close friend and mentor went evil and didnt see him ever since he probably finds comfort with the wilders
silk widget
Since both respen and seirus are wilder. I wonder if Khazard was also a wilder before turning into hypogean
dark heath
If he was good, probably
Because seirus is a water god or whatever and he was accepted
dire imp
Seirus might of been accepted bc He was first born near wilder territory, doesnt mean khazard was accepted aswell back then he was probably more devoted to his duties and such
silk widget
From reading the lore, it also look like respen is older than seirus.
dire imp
Speaking of which what is a rough idea of the time this event happend if elemental guardians aged like mortals i could get an idea but they age slower so its hard to tell
By event i mean respen being betrayed
silk widget
@dire imp it seems there really isn't any mentioning when that happened.
@dire imp could you share your idea ?
civic geyser
So about time I show my oc
Idk if I actually did show it before but he's a lightbearer traveller
And he creates portals as his main gimmick
dire imp
<@801934104634458167> could you share your idea ?
At first i assumed he was the near the same age as other heros about his age then i used there lore to think of a mark in time when the event happened but then someone said guardians age much slower then mortals so that threw me off, he looks 20 when he could be 40 judging on his slower ageing also how its a festival when they celebrate his herosim and they describe it as its not a recently founded festival so that confuses me even more
And theres no mention that i know off when khazard became a hypogean
So the only thing i can work off if someone knows his actual age or when khazard became a hypo
silk widget
Elemental guardians are basically god, right? If so, do they physically age at all?
trim shell
they don't age physically.
lament meadow
bro we just gotta make sure we dont get satrana'd again
...god that sounds creepy now that i think about it
disregard
civic geyser
Satrana'd
Ever get enslaved, saved by a big tiddy desert cat, and gain fire powers and still be a minor
lament meadow
dont forget be placed on a toddy mousepad
trail kite
that's... Respen is in his physical form
also.... don't mention that mousepad again... screw underage
wintry fossil
Wait literally or metaphorically?
lament meadow
honestly im like
torn between dropping it entirely and holding lilith accountable for that awful product in every fashion
wait, what was?
wintry fossil
also.... don't mention that mousepad again... screw underage
?
trail kite
so... Respen physical age is.... kinda 20 or over 20...his actual age is... eternal because he is a god... elemental deity
trail kite
so he is legal
silk widget
But still a twink
Just learned a new word today. 😆 😆
silk widget
@spice mulch yep 😆
Did a quick search and the word twink popped up a lot since respen's release lol
trail kite
Angelo is bearded twink
spice mulch
Still a massive twink
civic geyser
Oscar is a twink definitely
People have a tendency to ship him with Ferael
I don't consider Ferael as much as a twink but if he looked more alive then maybe
trail kite
I ship Oscar with Angelo... double twink
well.... they ship Ferael with Kelthur... because of....
dire imp
Why are people assuming heros are twinks
trail kite
not all of them are twink
dire imp
I was doing dreamscape and this caught my eye so rown provided pippa wity her hat and glasses
civic geyser
I thought he was offering her an extra pair
Her sprite showed she was wearing one before their interaction
But idk if the sprites are reliable
dire imp
I think they just didnt want to make another sprite
crystal tapir
She did do a quick action adjusting her glasses earlier in that mission.
dire imp
Creators mistake?
crystal tapir
...That said, I wonder exactly how bad Pippa's eyesight is without them.
Before this mission I tended to imagine her as being almost totally blind without them, but Rowan apparently having her perscription on him suggests they might be just for show.
dire imp
I dont think theres anything wrong with her eyesight personal it could be that they show off spiritual energy whne your wearing them
Im sure they have some use
spice mulch
I think Rowan offered her a new hat and new glasses
simple vine
glasses with spiral on them are a common sign of bad eyesight
dire imp
On her sprite and Portrait the glasses arent see through so i think they have some kind of magical use
dire imp
So afk arena is trying to tell us Pippa is geeky 
lament meadow
yes.
dire imp
So i was reading Talenes lore and i have alot of questions and ideas about it first are obsidian finches actual birds or are they part human part bird
Also how did they go extinct is there any reason, hunting? Hypogeans/Demons?
Also didnt they technically go extinct anyway bc If talene became a celestial Phoenix that means she is no longer an obsidian finch and if her mother and her were the last then
trim shell
So i was reading Talenes lore and i have alot of questions and ideas about it fi...
Actual birds, I assume.
tawny gust
she basically got the power of every obsidian finch ever distilled into her so she was like the super finch which is birb and powerful birb = phoenix
alternatively it was just an issue with the translation since she isn’t an obsidian finch in cn lore, she’s a phoenix from the start there
dire imp
I think the idea of her being an obsidian finch first is better since the primary idea of a Phoenix is that they die and are reborn from the ashes so then talene wouldnt of had to do all that for her mother since she would just be reborn if she was a phoenix
silk widget
@dire imp in cn lore, obsidian finch is an actual bird. I read it long time ago, so i might not remember it in details, but in the part where she merged with her ancestors'spirit, it did describe how she gradually changed from looking like a bird to taking a human like form as the merging proceeded.
dire imp
spice mulch
Oh
civic geyser
Hmm
Concept: Hypogean skins of their mortal selves before being converted
Mezoth as a sailor, Khazard as the former elemental, Human Lucretia with a sword
Would look weird but just a thought
Mortas as a court jester, Ezizh when he was still fresh into the world as a seed
lament meadow
mezoth but in lucius' sailor suit
coral zodiac
~~mezoth but in lucius' sailor suit~~
Where do I have to sign? 
dire imp
Isnt Solise animal base a kitsune so many people say shes a cat when i think its clear shes a kitsune
civic geyser
She resembles a kitsune definitely
Since foxes are often mistaken for felines
But it's clear since Solice has the whole nine-tails trope going on
Ever watch Naruto
dark heath
For the design on my hypogean character I’m thinking of doing a sort of bound up design, since I plan for her to have been a prisoner that lost her sight before the Hypogeans attacked the prison that kept her.
Kind of similar to that of the unbound form of Hoopa from Pokémon
trim shell
I agree
dire imp
A Kitsune is a multi tailed fox
A kumiho is the korean interpretation of a kitsune with is japanese mythology
dire imp
Orginal?
What ever interpretation of them none can say which was the original when china, japan and korea all have different cultures
jaunty nacelle
Isnt Solise animal base a kitsune so many people say shes a cat when i think its...
Who said that shes a cat lol
dire imp
All my friends and people in game chat keep saying that and i thought it was obvious shes not a cat 
dire imp
dire imp
The day pippa came out
dire imp
Ive been told about the pearl event coming soon or something
jaunty nacelle
Ive been told about the pearl event coming soon or something
prepare yourself
dire imp
its the 🐱 🐟 chat nvm
Now i understand 
jaunty nacelle
I caught some simps last time
I don't think I'll catch some this time
afraid of getting chat muted 😭
silk widget
Hate this event but love the frames
dusky gyro
^mood
dark heath
His icon makes him look girly
dire imp
Hm i dont see it that way depends on what you see as girly
dusky gyro
This new hint doesn’t feel like a new hero
lament meadow
yeah this is just dolly being a bitch lol
warped glade
Any ideas what the Twin Terrors were supposed to look like before invading Lucretia's body ?
distant idol
i imagine them to look like twosted versions of the twins
silk widget
@warped glade the 2 skulls surrounding lucretia is the twins of terrors
And if you read luc's 4th skill. One is called skull of treachery and the other one is skull of destruction
distant idol
yeah but thats after they possessed her
gritty trail
Credit to Wenm
Wen made a pretty good design of what they could have looked like before their demise
god damn you discord and jpgs
civic geyser
interesting actually
I do think that certain hypogeans were created as direct counters to our celestials
civic geyser
the twin terrors and the celestial twins, Orthros and Zolrath
distant idol
the ceremony for the twin terroes is at like an altar with Elijah and lailag
civic geyser
ooh didnt see that
but yeah it just reminded me of the giants and the gods in greek mythology
somebody should make a version of ingame Lucretia but without the Twin terrors
civic geyser
ye exactly
but I mean as a fighter
like what I said earlier about the hypo skins where they can fight as their former selves
spice mulch
This new hint doesn’t feel like a new hero
It is tho, russian hackers found a new hero in the game files "clergy"
spice mulch
Yeah
civic geyser
bet it's going to be a male mage version of Belinda
dusky gyro
It is tho, russian hackers found a new hero in the game files "clergy"
New LB then
gritty trail
inb4 its Merek but ascended
dusky gyro
Tbh I wouldn’t have guessed. I thought it was Dolly going off cuz I never figured out what she was talking about with the “beautiful chalet in the woods”
spice mulch
civic geyser
fuck the Temple of light
I wanna see the chef or Rosalines brother
spice mulch
Tbh I wouldn’t have guessed. I thought it was Dolly going off cuz I never figure...
That was for the markiplier collab
civic geyser
lol
Markiplier, a beautiful chalet in the woods
well, he is beautiful I can confirm that
dusky gyro
I’m sorry, I don’t see the connection but I believe you
Ik the “anyone have some pliers” thing was related but not that
civic geyser
Imma be honest, the hints would have been easier and more comedic if they mentioned Chica
but oh well, he's already out so no need to dwell on that
also, supports are now my favorite class. They seem to have the best abilities and best lores for me
also best waifus
but the maulers and gb are the ones that need more support heroes. the Wilders already got Tasi and Nemora and the LBs have Rosaline and Rowan
civic geyser
oh FU-
Im so sorry, she's so out of wack I forgot she existed
she was good early game for tough opponents
but now that you point it out the LBs have the most support heroes
gritty trail
everyone is good early game
mid game drops off everyone
oblique solstice
Respen could be Lorsan's brother?
trail kite
Respen is an ancient element take form of an elf
seriously, he is a wind twink but i call him as old man
oblique solstice
Interesting
trail kite
and Idk how to explain it properly
dark heath
but the maulers and gb are the ones that need more support heroes. the Wilders a...
The graveborn getting Silas was a step in the right direction. Maulers just got another damage durri, unfortunately.
civic geyser
This new LB better raise the bar and not be another Belinda. Although admittedly a second LB mage is something we need
dark heath
Considering the only sorcery branch lightbearer in the game is Belinda, I'm pretty sure it's going to be one of them.
Speaking of mages, I'd want a cute snek boy sustenance branch mauler. Perhaps one that can charm enemies to give all their gained energy to his team instead, and while enemies are charmed, any time they would interrupt or control someone, they get interrupted or controlled instead. His ultimate would perhaps grant his team a mystic barrier to convert enemy damage into healing for a brief period of time. That, or everyone gets a retaliatory barrier to partially absorb damage taken and reflect it back after a bit of time, or if the ally behind the barrier dies.
I specified a boy specifically because it's easy to make it a seductive lady who flashes to charm and I am not a fan of that kind of thing. Come to think of it, though, a non-seductive snek girl would be fine for me too- I just have a bias for males being in support classes.
warped glade
Who's the opposite of Dura ?
civic geyser
Annih
dire imp
misty zephyr
silk widget
Anyone knows what poe stand for? Thr currency that is used to craft furnitures
trim shell
it doesn't.
dense cedar
Hope I hear back tomorrow
dusky gyro
Do we know how old Brutus and Khasos are? Not asking for a friend, asking for me lmao
spice mulch
Anyone knows what poe stand for? Thr currency that is used to craft furnitures
Paying
Overpriced
Elements
spice mulch
Do we know how old Brutus and Khasos are? Not asking for a friend, asking for me...
Not yet 
dusky gyro
Dang
trail kite
if they say Respen is under 18....
I'm gonna cry
he is like the Oldie in a twink body
simple vine
If satrana is 15 then who knows lol
spice mulch
I just hope Khasos is at least 20 something and Brutus around 30 something so the age gap isnt that much
But Lilith could say he's 15...
gritty trail
I can see Khasos being around 18-25 at his current state
Brutus probably way older like late 30s
simple vine
big age gap aint a problem tho khasos can be 20 brutus can be 50 i don't complain
just don't make khasos lower than 18
spice mulch
Honestly, yeah
simple vine
or else there will be arson
vapid musk
If they said that Respen -18 y.o that will kill all timeline
dusky gyro
I'm guessing Khasos is like ~23 and Brutus is like ~37
based on nothing except a vibe
trail kite
Respen real age definitely an ancient for now
appearance.... over 20
spice mulch
Ancient twink
spice mulch
Elemental twink
civic geyser
This again
People show Flora as a sort of adultish lady
She just looks like a loli
dire imp
The elemental guardians age much slower then mortals so his real age lore wise could be 40 when he looks 20
trail kite
Respen the
I call him as "Old man"
civic geyser
Hm
Hypogean concept: a demonic knight that prevents opponents from attacking and/or uses their own abilities against them.
His ult would prevent the enemy from using their ult and he would use it against them himself
The other abilities would have him steal from both enemies and allies alike
Headcanon: Belinda and Lucius have crushes on each other, but can't show it because:
- Both are introverted af
- Temple of light professionalism
- Would be the types to "keep it professional"
But they might be into each other because:
- They have a union together and have a Jesse and James dynamic
- Both of them have a beach skin set together
- 30 year old virgins
dire imp
His ult would prevent the enemy from using their ult and he would use it against...
Vedans worst nightmare
dark heath
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civic geyser
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/589565722326466560/807976419430760508/Aed...
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vale grove
Thank you 
crystal tapir
His ult would prevent the enemy from using their ult and he would use it against...
That would require a lot of extra animations. And how would opponents like Arthur work?
There's a reason that, in Super Smash Bros. fan projects, Kirby's hats are usually one of the final things implemented.
When I gave my own OC a similar-in-spirit ability, I had to set the upgrades in order to make provisions for opponents who had different-functioning ultimates like Arthur and Saurus.
I'm not trying to say "my OC is better than yours" or something, but these are the kinds of things you'll have to think about with ability design.
A suggestion for how your idea might work: maybe when this character uses the enemy's Ultimate, they summon a shadowy fascimile of that opponent.
crystal tapir
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/589565722326466560/807976419430760508/Aed...
👍
(EDIT: The post directly below was responding to a user who was banned and had their posts nuked.)
spice mulch
civic geyser
I'm not trying to say "my OC is better than yours" or something, but these are t...
That was my intended context though perhaps a better way to say it is to "take the effects of the opponent's ultimate" instead so he wouldn't have to have a different animation for everyone but still have the intended power
Also yes my thought was that when the oc uses their ability, they create a copy of the hero, say Skreg, doing their ult animation, along with the hypo using a single pose so that way he would take the effects of the upped attack rating and control immunity
Same for Arthur, where he could create a shadow animation of him doing the first ult and becoming the one gaining the effects instead
It's more difficult to explain when I cant draw him or make a sort of character sheet the way you do
tribal crystal
trim shell
yeah.
dense cedar
Belinda tryna ghost me on this one. I followed up today. Hopefully I hear back soon.
trim shell
Yeah I haven't heard back about any ages recently
hallow creek
I'm interested in the lore behind zolrath
I read his story but I want to know if theres anything at all more
gritty trail
I'm interested in the lore behind zolrath
If you're new then read Orthros' lore and their union in the library
gritty trail
They've got some pretty good lore
hallow creek
Love to hear it
spice mulch
Yeah I haven't heard back about any ages recently
I hope they decide to give you an image with all characters ages, everyone wins
hallow creek
They've got some pretty good lore
Yo, that was some sick lore
It didn't mention where, how or even when zolrath got that hourglass
gritty trail
Oh yeah that still remains a mystery
hallow creek
Oh yeah that still remains a mystery
That's weirdly exciting
gritty trail
I remember there being a theory a while back that Zolrath might of been some incarnation of Orthros in a corrupted timeline in a sense, and from there he basically duplicate himself to what he is now
hallow creek
Is this what y'all do all the time? Is this the what it feels like to know more about something
gritty trail
Yes, the more we know, the more we want to know XDD
hallow creek
I remember there being a theory a while back that Zolrath might of been some inc...
Yeah isn't that his ultimate
hallow creek
Yes, the more we know, the more we want to know XDD
Dammmmm, what should I try next?
gritty trail
Mezoth's lore is definitely one to read, moreso a logged story than a story story
hallow creek
Ite
hallow creek
Mezoth's lore is definitely one to read, moreso a logged story than a story stor...
Oh, that guy
He always reminded me of the sin gluttony
Idk why, maybe that giant mouth in his stomach has something to do with it
hallow creek
You'll know why once you read his lore
So wait the Smuggler turned into mezoth?!?!?
I'm surprised he could right after
But how tho
civic geyser
Im guessing its sort of a slow yet sudden transformation that had something to do with the Hypogean the sailor chef was worshipping
I believe it was implied that the smuggler ate everyone out of desperation, especially the chef, which probably caused him to become an embodient of gluttony.
Of all the hypo tales, his is very mysterious and the most interesting
It's just so weird though, how he would have grown extra arms and a mouth on his belly
silk widget
What would a 'domesticated' hypogean act like? I remember reading the introduction about the hypogean race on some cn website about how hypogean can be tamed/domesticated by human race at some hefty cost
dire imp
Probably harder depending on the power of that hypo or its loyalty to its own self or annih
That would be hard to imagine a domesticated hypogean
civic geyser
Its so weird to think about
trim shell
@trim gust
trim gust
Ty
trim shell
Np
hallow creek
Im guessing its sort of a slow yet sudden transformation that had something to d...
But not to mention that they said pacifically "he slashed my stomach"
rugged bone
What would a 'domesticated' hypogean act like? I remember reading the introducti...
Mortas' story kind of toes the line there, the hypogean he duped was probably closer to "domesticated" to better influence people and not stand out.
That said since on-brand hypogeans are already a mess of character types, you could realistically have a Devil contract-style domesticated one that will fight the other hypogeans for a price, or one who didn't really care in the first place and lives among humans just for the thrill of a coliseum. Or hell a story of an unimprinted one that fell into human hands and just Grew Up Different™️
While Mehira's story sounds like she doesn't enter the human's domain to do her work, Twin Terrors had to be Revived and convince someone (Lucretia) to take them in, is she undomesticated? Have the terrors evolved traits to better communicate with humans? It's a big gray area
civic geyser
The hypos are all just wildcards
Ezizh was apparently a sort of seed that was fed
Khazard was corrupted and transformed
Zolrath still remains unknown
dire imp
Isnt zolrath one of the hypos that were made directly from annih's blood, i heard something about apparently zolrath and othoros battle eachother at the end of time
gritty trail
From what we know, Zolrath did eventually lose to Orthros, this leading us to the first VoW where he essentially guides us to resurrect him
cobalt hamlet
so Daimon is actually Shemira's son?
cobalt hamlet
so the story on Daimon union is about the time when both were alive and "normal"?
gritty trail
In the union lore no, there is a somewhat backstory to Rowan's gramps and father as well as what the forsaken family does
Guide souls in denial to a better place
All 3 of them have their seperate lores, from being alive to turning graveborn
cobalt hamlet
quite interesting, the first thing I read was the union lore so I was surprised to know the Doctor meant to be Niru and the Tailor Shemira
gritty trail
Yep
indigo star
im gonna risk it all being called a capitol G gamer word, but i'm curios to know if in the lore there is any canonically lgbt+ character
lament meadow
canonically? not that i know of
thadens the most plausible one i think tho...been hinted at in a bit of promo material but other than that theres not much
rugged bone
yeah thane and baden are especially close but I haven't seen said promo material
there aren't a lot of even documented relationships among the cast, Shemira and Nirru with their son Daimon, The Final Choice,
(Kren and his weapons)
lament meadow
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sterile marsh
dark heath
gritty trail
thoran hates small places confirmed
dark heath
He's got that stereotypical royalty attitude
But lore says he used to be nice
Im guessing being backstabbed made him bitter
lament meadow
hey woke up from the dead and chose violence
gritty trail
I wonder if he pulled a "no u" card on himself and made him this way
spice mulch
I'm beginning to ship Kren and Skreg
spice mulch
Skreg's face!
distant idol
hes so cute
umbral frost
aaw cutie
huge ears lel
trail kite
He smol
dusky gyro
Skreg's face!
@dark heath
dark heath
I'm seeing all of this Skreg praise and sprites and I want more it
dark heath
I'm beginning to ship Kren and Skreg
YES PLEASE
The crazed gunman and Iron Jaw taner would excellent for each other! 🥺
broken citrus
Skreg's face!
AAAAAAAAAA SO CUTE
civic geyser
Skreg and Kren union, pog?
crystal tapir
Skreg's face!
Drawing reference!
Such a cutie.
crystal tapir
He has a legendary appearance too
That explains the discrepancy with his signature item's description. I always thought Long Fang looked very plain for a spear supposed to have been made from a demon lord.
indigo star
I'm beginning to ship Kren and Skreg
😔 🙏 ❤️
wait what are those his EARS?
what's he a mouse?
distant idol
durri are mostly rodents
kren is somewhat debatable but all the others are rodents iirc
indigo star
Why everytime i get into something its because it has short bastard rats
distant idol
mood
indigo star
Ratchet and Clank, then Yordles from league of legends, Chua from Wildstar
What the hell is wrong with me
i need to get a pet rat or something
dark heath
TIL: Satrana used to be more furry
gritty trail
*Antandra
civic geyser
Hm, I can see why they chose her to be more humanlike
Either anthropomorphic or lady with ears and tail. A design in between seems uncanny and incomplete
distant idol
idk i like the in between design
i like the hair and clothes of the final design
but the anthro traits of the in between are good
spice mulch
The first picture is good
civic geyser
I don't mind any of her designs tho, new or old
Just the fact that the consistent thing there is her damn
Boob
frank meteor
TIL: Satrana used to be more furry
It's actually Antandra
Not Satrana
And I won't answer
Because of that
distant idol
I don't mind any of her designs tho, new or old
tiddy continuity
spice mulch
Skreg looks cool with his full skull
broken citrus
That’s the presumed skull of the demon/Hypogean right
Smol headed Hypogean probably slightly taller than a Durri
lament meadow
ok but consider:
warped glade
In the story of Mezoth
Was it a part of the ritual for the cook to cut the abdomen of the man ?
Like
To summon Mezoth or something ?
Through him
rugged bone
I think it was a lucky strike
warped glade
I think it was a lucky strike
But Mezoth has a mouth exactly where the cook cut it
gritty trail
It was moreso the presence of cannibalism that is what summoned Mezoth, the cut was probably a coincidental thing by luck since the cook wanted Mezoth to be resurrected by the corpses of all the people on the ship in hopes that he would live by Mezoth with mercy, though he didn't and in desperation attacked our main guy through the belly to let himself live.
Obviously story purposes it was intentional for that cut to turn into the gaping mouth of Mezoth, but in the scene it was coincidental
I wonder if Mezoth follows that sort of malicious things as a Wendigo would
civic geyser
Interesting
dark heath
Is Tasi the smallest hero in the game?
dire imp
No
trim shell
Arden is (at least in terms of height)
dire imp
I thought skreg was smaller then arden?
trim shell
Skreg is 130, Arden 120
dire imp
Oh wow
spice mulch
Old people shrink
silk widget
Plot twist: arden gets taller as he gets older
slim ore
Bro if arden is like 3 feet tall as an old man how fucking small was he as a baby
dire imp
Some old people go smaller as they get older and considering arden looking over 100 and with hunch back it makes sense, he was probably taller and better posture back in his prime
slim ore
Consider: arden is pretty young for his species and will grow to be a fucking giant
silk widget
@dark heath very nice art. Did you resemble him to some god?
gritty trail
That looks fucking amazing holy- 
💕 💕
crystal tapir
I'm interested in seeing what the finished version will look like.
gritty trail
Honestly same, I'm really digging this design right now
warped glade
It was moreso the presence of cannibalism that is what summoned Mezoth, the cut ...
What is "moreso"?
civic geyser
Epiic
indigo star
How old is Skreg?
can't tell if he is a child, or just small because he is a mouse
his ingame sprite seems too cartoonily unproportioned
but in his art he seems like a small adult
dire imp
Hes the eldest out of his siblings
dire imp
can't tell if he is a child, or just small because he is a mouse
I heard something about hes so short bc he worked so hard for feeding the durri he didnt eat as much which stunted his growth
indigo star
😔 a good man he is
dire imp
Certainly 😔
dark heath
Hes the eldest out of his siblings
Is he the OLDEST or is he the ELDEST
Because eldest means he is the first child
And first child doesnt mean he is an adult
Wait no nvm
Im stupid that means the same
But still point im making
Eldest doesnt mean adult
Just means he is first child
dire imp
Ik
I cant confirm is hes an adult i assume he is but i was saying hes the oldest of his siblings
candid parrot
indigo star
I mean, from his art he is clearly a short adult, but you never know he isn't human after all
dark heath
I heard something about hes so short bc he worked so hard for feeding the durri ...
Where'd did you see that? I can't find that in his lore
I say he's a short adult, I didn't know he was the eldest of his siblings either?
dire imp
Its definitely mentioned his the oldest of his siblings i think and i saw the thing about his stunt growth from something else i can't rlly remember i should keep record on where i find these things
dark heath
Lol it's fine, still judging by his overall mannerisms and how he talks, I think it's safe to assume Skreg is an adult
silk widget
@dark heath it was mentioned in the abysmal delves historic venture in peaks of time. He called vurk "younger brother"
What do you guy think about afk 2? Seen several topics about lilith prepares to make afk 2
On one hand, i'm happy that we will have a lot more lores abt afk universe. On the other hand, I'm worry that they'll shift their attention away from afk arena
spice mulch
Just read the whole article
Dont jump into the whole afk2 thing
Developer explains most of the thing that are happening in the game
dark heath
<@456226577798135808> it was mentioned in the abysmal delves historic venture in...
Ah thanks! I haven't unlocked that yet, so I wouldn't have known
broken citrus
Its definitely mentioned his the oldest of his siblings i think and i saw the t...
Oh, that was my HC about why Skreg is so short
dire imp
Oooooh thats where i must of heard it thank you for telling me!
sudden vortex
мне интересно,есть русские?
dire imp
Русские герои?
thorny basin
мне интересно,есть русские?
Угу
sudden vortex
тогда всем привет
crystal tapir
I'm sure Skreg's an adult because his younger brother drinks.
hearty parcel
idk I wrote something
Imagine Talene falls in love with Khazard 😳
spice mulch
According to lore that'd never happen
lament meadow
According to lore that'd never happen
listening to canon lore and not just making up your own shit
spice mulch
imagine not wanting lore
warped glade
Who's the octopus that we're talking about in the Kazhard's story ?
trim shell
gouldos (first AE boss)
indigo star
For ship purposes
doing god's work, i'll input tomorrow with my drawings
SkregxKren WILL be a thing, i will make sure of it
warped glade
New ?
spice mulch
Belinda is VIP chat support
civic geyser
Belinda big virgin
trail kite
me:....I make fanon shit
dark heath
Belinda bad
spice mulch
SkregxKren WILL be a thing, i will make sure of it
trail kite
she is just a bg character
dire imp
I seriously doubt its sign of a new hero
civic geyser
Oh boy
silk widget
Are we at it again lol 😆
trail kite
HE IS ANCIENT BEING
he is about 20s
as an appearance
do i need to tap mic and shout about that?
do he look like 13 or 14 years old
his voice look like a freaking young adult to me
oblique solstice
Me too
And yet...
He is the windchild
And his real age is like...huge
But he apparently has a young spirit, so I would give 13-14 for look and personality
trail kite
Wind child is just the title because he is born with the wind... Not because he is a child
He is like an old man too me for the true age
He is...totally an adult too me
for the appearance
dire imp
I would give him like... 13-14 years
Hes a elemental guardian so he could look 20 when hes in his 50s just an example
dire imp
trail kite
And yes...Tasi Fairy form is...just her physical, her actual is the mist
dire imp
She probably has different forms for ever realm shes in so her form can adapt
Tasi could be hundreds of years old for all we know
trail kite
sometime..the appearance You see was just a physical form.. the true form is can be anything
Tasi is....the energy of dream realm
undead is difference thing.... they stay as the age they're dead
one thing...is elf an immortal being?
dire imp
The basic idea from history of an elf is that they are not immortal how ever live longer
dire imp
undead is difference thing.... they stay as the age they're dead
Physically, of course everything ages its just that graveborn dont age physically
trail kite
he is 25....
but aged very...slow
also...elf like Eironn, their horns grow through age
like deer
civic geyser
Hhhhaahahaah
If Respen was called Windchild because he was a child
He should be called "Windman"
"Windoldman"
"Winddad"
"Windson" sounds cooler though
dire imp
They don't age...they stay forever
Ik thats why i said they dont age physically but they still get older
vague ember
Okay wait so are all the main factions (and celestials) in a battle against the hypogeans? I thought that the graveborns were fighting against the other factions as well? Or is it just like everyone against hypogeans?
trail kite
Graveborn have their own business and conflict
spice mulch
Basically everyone had their own war against each other
They kind of joined together against hypogeans that want to destroy them
That doesn't mean they are allies tho
trail kite
they're like...neutral
vague ember
Ahhhhh okay okay
dire imp
Lightbearers, mauler and wilders are all together in agaisnt the hypos but still have certain conflict between eachother and graveborns are pretty much not involved as long as no one bothers them they wont bother the others
I think the only factions that are actually at war is the lightbearers and maulers
trim shell
Is that bad?
civic geyser
Just joking
dark heath
I still don’t get how Nara is wearing jeans and a tank top. Is she a time traveler or something?
dire imp
Well shes not wearing jeans
wanton owl
civic geyser
Hehehe
Time-traveling Teenage Mafia Boss Goth Zombie Waifu
Look, Nara was ahead of her time
Seirus was just jealous of her drip
dire imp
What animal base is antandra at first i thought jaguar bc of the tail but then she doesnt have the markings so im not 100% sure what animal she is
silk widget
@dire imp she is a leopard
dire imp
Did the celestials ever go looking for the artifacts dura made since they are items with the power a god would weld how come its not the celestials who would want these artifacts more then the people of espiria
Or were the artifacts specifically made for mortals to weld knowing that one day they would need them
gritty trail
I say it was made specifically for mortals as her "final gift" to them since she was essentially dying and could not hold back the hypogeans way later on
dire imp
Also another question about the artifacts
So its obvious that each of the artifacts are of different things that can be worn or used, but i dont get what the eye is suppose to be, is it like a crown or a diadem
slim ore
What animal base is antandra at first i thought jaguar bc of the tail but then s...
She's a "designers didnt think about it and did what looked cool"
civic geyser
And what is Dura's grace?
silk widget
@civic geyser it's a necklace
steep marsh
at first i thought it was a sword stuck on the ground
silk widget
@steep marsh lol. I can't unseen it now that you mention it
uneven echo
Random question for anyone to answer. If you were in the land of Esperia, with no , no abilities, no isekai bs. Just you and your prior knowledge of the world you used to live in. Which faction would you think is the safest place for you to reside in? Which faction would you want to reside in if pain or death isn't a concern?
trim shell
wilders as far as safest, maulers if there were no concerns bc maulers hot
wind coral
Random question for anyone to answer. If you were in the land of Esperia, with n...
graveborn because after death, you would be immune to pain and sickness
dire imp
Random question for anyone to answer. If you were in the land of Esperia, with n...
Wilders bc its a stayed out of war and violence with decently protected borders, its safe and magical
gritty trail
Even though protected by borders, Wilders seem to be the most manipulated faction in terms of elemental things, such as Ezizh's birth corrupting Ulmus, alternative timeline of Arden becoming evil, as well as Dark Nemora
dire imp
True but compared to other factions its the safest and most peaceful
warped glade
Who was the first Celestial/Hypogean created according to the lore ?
Orthros and Zolrath ?
Or do they spawn from nowhere ?
dire imp
When you say that do you mean out of the in game ones?
I think all the celestials in game were somehow created during duras existence weither they were created or ascended by dura or some other form of creation
dire imp
I guess the first hypo created is unknown might not even be in game
dire imp
Or do they spawn from nowhere ?
All the celestials in game were created in some form or way, and as for the hypos, the first hypos were said to be made directly from annih's blood however judging by backstories some hypos were created a different way
warped glade
What's the relation between Dura and Annih ?
uneven echo
And kind of petty.
dark heath
Transferring my oc art to digital. Stepping my shading game up as well
tawny gust
out of the characters we have, orthros or twins
don’t think it can be orthros since he was made by the celestial guy ansiel right?
trim shell
this is just talking about in game characters
tawny gust
ohh
trim shell
so no dura, ansiel, etc
tawny gust
icey
trim shell
orthros was made before twins for sure
but we don't know if he was given a name before they were created
since for a while he was just a clock
tawny gust
dad orthros dad orthros dad orthro
distant idol
why would orthros have been made before the twins?
trim shell
The concept of time existed before people did
The question is, when do you think orthros was created
When dura gave him his name, or when he was first made but not sentient
gritty trail
I assume he was made long before the hypogean war took place as a means of protecting time
distant idol
i mean it doesnt say anywhere that yhe twins only came into existence after people
and im counting orthros' creation as when he first became sentient
trim shell
See the first paragraph
fast cliff
Is there any ongoing lore or is it mainly background information still
trail kite
vale grove
Thank you!!!
civic geyser
Finished my hypo oc Áedán!
Sexy badass man. Forget Mehira, this is the next simp creator
vale grove
agile arch
Who do you guys think chopped off Thanes arm and killed Baden?
trim shell
Brutus
agile arch
Oh cool! Thx
crystal tapir
Yeah, the translation issues really get on my noives.
In the part of the survey where we make a suggestion, I suggested a re-translation.
civic geyser
Tbh, I thought the lore was purposely written that way to make it vague, so that way we could put the pieces together
broken citrus
There is ambiguity and then there is bad translation
dark heath
And then there's the fact that chinese/japanese/english lore have small differences
Like how apparently in chinese/jap lore, safiya reclaimed her throne but in eng lore it was just said she got ankhira's help, she didnt reclaim her throne yet
lament meadow
YEAH LIKE
silk widget
And the long running debate of whether baden was estrilda's father or uncle. If eng lore was translated correctly, that debate wouldn't even have existed
lament meadow
for fucks sake just make the lore cohesive across all translations
none of this "default to english" bullshit
silk widget
Bad translating is one thing, but I just couldn't understand the translator's decision to alter the details of so many early lores. Warek's lore for example, there absolutely no reason to not translate the part that said warek's brother was the chieftain of the bear clan. Instead, he was only described as warek's brother only in eng lore.
I'm glad that recent lores are very consistent between eng and cn. I didn't have to spend extra effort to use an auto translator just to spot the inconsistency in eng lore lol
spice mulch
What else did they butcher?
silk widget
@spice mulch baden regained his consciousness and captures the lich's spirit and use him as his shadow clones
trail kite
The CN lore have some hidden stuff that EN ver didn't have
silk widget
Speaking of bad translation, i would vote for twisted realm lore as the worst one out of the bunch.
silk widget
If anyone is confused abt twisted realm background lore, you should read the cn version that i posted above.
Kanes lore in cn also seems different than its eng version. It looks like Kane was a good person, and the king was the bad one.
spice mulch
Interesting
rich lily
We need lore in story mode
civic geyser
Slightly disappointed there was nothing big happening in chapter 20
Since that's basically the place where all the hypos are coming from, I expected like 5 hypogean boss battles but NOPE
dark heath
Bruh
Hypo bosses at ch20 would suck
Cause at that point you have barely 3 heroes built, let alone 5
Unless you have godly rng
civic geyser
Wow
dark heath
I am fully committed to working on this
God I hate the fact that my iPad displaces the color brightness
indigo star
wait
This man
??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
dark heath
LOREEEEE
gritty trail
I FUCKING LOVE IT 💕 💕 💕 💕 💕
dark heath
When I finish her art should I do a pic of her in a mirror image format with Orthros?
light otter
big chungus exists
dire imp
sullen saddle
What kind of accent does Saurus have?
dark heath
french
sullen saddle
Thank you!
civic geyser
I was out listening to their voices
Safiya's voice sounds hella french too
Okay so, isn't it convenient that the character who is a queen, overthrown by her own people, has a French accent?
Also Silas has that mad scientist voice and I love it
I also find it even better that almost every character has a sexy voice
lament meadow
like mezoths, right?
tawny gust
like khazards, right?
unreal fog
The later chapters seem to have an awful lot of gigantic tentacles in the artwork - is there anything referring to what the creatures are in lore?
mossy parcel
Could be a reference to the old ae boss that I manage to always forget the name of
He's also very likely the creature in Khazards lore
trim shell
Gouldos, yeah.
slim ore
Does safiya have a french accent?
She has one but id never pin it as french
I dont wanna ~stereotype~ but I got a more middle eastern, maybe northern African vibe?? I mean shes a sphinx so it would make more sense for smthn in that region than france
Ok asked a French friend and he said its at best a bastardized French that comes out really as Russian lmao
Its afk's "foreign" accent p much
gritty trail
Why need accents when you have mezoth 
mossy parcel
On one hand that is true, but on the other hand they just decided to give a mauler that looks like they're based of off a sphynx a very bad attempt at a French accent
gritty trail
civic geyser
Well
Maybe?
All I gather is that the celestials do not care for insignificant mortals
She has a nice voice but tis muddled with all the hypogean filter going on
I was listening to Belinda and Lucius and I figured they have a Jessie and James vibe going on, if they were good guys
Ah now I want to do the Lightbringers voicing over Team Rocket with someone like Rowan as Meowth
dire imp
I was listening to Belinda and Lucius and I figured they have a Jessie and James...
They are good guys?
Oooooh
Wait you mean Jessie and james if they were good nvm i misunderstood
spice mulch
Vurk and Skreg failed at their job
umbral frost
they tried
kind olive
feral saddle
Anyone have an Anoki Mercenary?
trim shell
Anyone have an Anoki Mercenary?
feral saddle
Lol thanks
civic geyser
Belinda: Nobody asked you to bring that giant shield!
Lucius' And nobody asked you to bring that attitude but I'm stuck here with both!
dark heath
Vurk and Skreg failed at their job
They had one job
dark heath
Real??
civic geyser
Ooh
heady viper
new lb looks like they may have a relation to cecilia