afk-lore

[gritty trail]

But never saying it

[distant idol]

lol doesn't zaph have a scar over his eye ingame

id assume its zaph both cuz how could anyone else have known all about what went down in that battle

and also silver jair

[shy wharf]

https://i.redd.it/cwuenuli2z261.jpg

I dont see a scar there

[distant idol]

thats not ingame??

[coral zodiac]

asdgvdfsvd

[shy wharf]

idk how you would tell a scar using the little in game picture tbh

[coral zodiac]

Can I download that image?

[distant idol]

idk how you wouldnt be able to see a scar on his sprite

[shy wharf]

because sprites are tiny and lack the detail? the only eye damage I can tell on any particular character are the ones with eyepatches

I dont see a scar on his sprite either, do you?

[coral zodiac]

Lemme check if Zaph has scar...

[distant idol]

if i remember correctly he does have one

cant check rn tho

[distant idol]

also, tidus lol

he has eye scar too on his sprite and i played very close attention to hin specifically

[shy wharf]

I think the story would have mentioned if they were in fact speaking to a giant wolf man

[distant idol]

what

huh

girl wh

whatever

[shy wharf]

I was speaking more towards humans with that remark, seeing as how the story didn't hint at the stranger in the tavern being a different species.

[shy wharf]

no scar

[coral zodiac]

Hmmmm...Nope? He isn't have scar?

[distant idol]

ah ig i thought the light thingies were acarse

scars*

[gritty trail]

this could be before the battle

[shy wharf]

he'd have to be really vain to tell a story about himself like that

[distant idol]

but the game takes place after dura dies

[shy wharf]

pretty self-serving wording used lol

[distant idol]

and the story of his battle where his eye got hurt takes place in the first hypo invasion

[distant idol]

i wasnt implying that tidus was the person in the story lol

just that he has am eye scar thats visible in his sprite

[shy wharf]

I can't tell where the story is in the timeline, it says 40 years after the hypogean war

but aren't we in the hypogean war at current in game?

[distant idol]

the second hypogean war

but in the story, its mentioned that dura herself is locking the hypos in with that portal

as well as ancelot being there

so thats a long time ago

and dura was alive

so zaph and luc were there foe the first hypo war as well

[shy wharf]

so then it must be someone we don't know about yet

[distant idol]

id assume its zaph still

or

maybe ancelot himself

[shy wharf]

I think it would be either Ancelot or one of the 2 bodyguards referenced

[distant idol]

zaph and ancelot are the only two that couldve known that whole story

what bodyguards huhh

[shy wharf]

same story; its like "the only people there other than zaph were ancelot and his 2 bodyguards!"

[distant idol]

can you get a quote please

i cant check the lore myself rn cuz

phone dead

[shy wharf]

"How do you know so much about a situation that only Ancelot and his two last bodyguards could've seen?"

[distant idol]

wha

thats just out of context

[shy wharf]

lol wat

[distant idol]

idk whos saying what in that

or about what

like

[shy wharf]

he's literally asking the stranger in the tavern how he could have known about the last moments of the fight where Ancelot was inside the Rift with Zaph as well as Ancelots 2 bodyguards.

[distant idol]

can you please just like

get a screenshot or smth lol

[shy wharf]

nah man check it when your phone has power, this is gettin kind of silly

[distant idol]

okie i will then

but i dont remember anything about bodyguards and also that just seems random

for one of the bodyguards to have a story like that and then have them go into so much description for just a bodyguard

esp when it says the army was turning against zaph except ancelot

[shy wharf]

hence the reason I'm thinking this scar-faced person is one of the bodyguards.

there must be a reason they felt the need to include that detail

[distant idol]

ancelot

[silk widget]

@distant idol there is mention about the 2 bodyguards

[distant idol]

screenshot please

or just like wait til i have a chance to charge my phone lol

[gritty trail]

No yeah there is 2 bodygaurds that were there last after a huge portion of the army bait was killed off

[distant idol]

thank you

[silk widget]

I thought the storyteller was Ancelot, is it?

[distant idol]

i think ancelot too

[shy wharf]

we don't have any details about ancelot at all so it would be hard to say

[gritty trail]

But it kind of is a lil' oof since this union story takes place 40 years after the war

[distant idol]

since the army was turning against zaph with the rumors, i dont see why a bodyguard would be so enthusiastic about describing zaphrael in such a good way

but ancelot is stated to still have faith in zaph

ancelot makes the most sense imo

[silk widget]

Ancelot has silverhair too, so it matches the description

[distant idol]

where does it say ancelot has silver hair?

[gritty trail]

What confuses me though is that he was "taken down" by lucretia in the story though

[shy wharf]

The line about; "Ancelot had intended to sacrifice himself for the sake of humanity, but perhaps in Zaphrael's eyes, Ancelot represented new hope for the human Empire."

That sounds a bit too self-serving if it came from Ancelot

[distant idol]

yeah but like

he can be selfish lol

[silk widget]

@distant idol in the union lore. He was describes as having silverhair and a scar on his eye iirc

[distant idol]

and also

[shy wharf]

I think we'll be seeing a new lightbringer hero soon, which will probably be the stranger.

[distant idol]

how would a bodyguard know that ancelot wanted ti sacrifice himsels

[distant idol]

wha t

thats the stranger described with silver hair and a scar

we don't have a description of ancelot

[shy wharf]

yeah, thats the one I think we'll see. It probably won't be ancelot.

[distant idol]

i think ancelot is the stranger

a bodyguard just doesnt make sense

[shy wharf]

the new hope of a human empire probably isn't someone that crawls around in random bars in the countryside

[silk widget]

Ill have to reread the union lore 😫

[distant idol]

ancelot had already established the lb empire by the time of this story

[shy wharf]

exactly, he has more important things to do than barcrawling

[distant idol]

the battle takes place in lb year 21 and the stranger telling the story takes place in lb year 61

[shy wharf]

you don't just shit out an empire and set-it-and-forget-it

[distant idol]

since the lb calendar most likely starts at the same time as the lb empire

[shy wharf]

either he has a kingdom to run, or a son to advise

[distant idol]

he had already had the empire for 61 years

by then an heir couldve taken his place

and his son died so not his son

[shy wharf]

could have had another child

[distant idol]

couldve

[shy wharf]

kings tend to do that

[distant idol]

but if hes an ex emperor theres no reason he wouldn't have been hanging out in a bar

esp if he wanted to make sure zaphs story gets passed on

[shy wharf]

the bar also had lightbearer zealots hanging around in it. I bet they would know if their hero-king founder was chilling in a stall.

telling stories tantamount to heresy

[distant idol]

i get the feeling that it wasnt just a coincidental occurence that one of the three people who could've known about zaphs story happens to show up at the same place as the one person looking for zaphs stiry

[shy wharf]

exactly. One of those 2 bodyguards would have had more freedom to move around, and could have been charged with finding the right person to pass the story to.

[fossil rose]

Honestly he may of even just fine to the bar because he heard the narrator was there, a man who was known to be looking for this very story

[shy wharf]

^precisely.

[distant idol]

but the bodyguarda wouldnt have painted zaph in such a perfect light

[shy wharf]

Why wouldn't he have?

[distant idol]

and they wouldnt have known of ancelots intent to sacrificd himself

[shy wharf]

Of course they would have.

[distant idol]

how

[shy wharf]

You think the last 2 survivors of the Emperors last ditch effort to save humanity weren't considered by-default some of his closest friends after the war? If anyone is going to be like a brother/sister to a hero-king, it would be those that managed to survive alongside them.

[fossil rose]

Also the man was cloaked, his identity was hidden, the narrator only caught the scar and hair for a moment

[distant idol]

that's just an assumption lol

[shy wharf]

double-exactly darkfire, even the two bodyguards would have been as celebrities

gotta keep yourself incognito

[distant idol]

and because there was rumors that zaph had betrayed the celestials by letting luc go which caused parts of the army to turn on zaph except ancelot

wait whats darkfire saying whaa

[shy wharf]

Nobody who was present at that last stand would have seen Zaph in a bad light.

[fossil rose]

Cloaks are also a popular tool for nobles to conseal their identities in public in fantasy settings

[shy wharf]

nobles aren't just royalty though, they are basically anyone bestowed power by a monarch. You give lands, titles, and power to them - and fame follows suit. Those 2 bodyguards were probably handsomely taken care of.

[distant idol]

wha t

when did nobles come up

huhh

[shy wharf]

And thats ultimately the thing I think its hinging on. There was no reason to mention "the 2 bodyguards" unless it was a hook for the story.

[fossil rose]

Yes but royalty is the highest level of nobility

[shy wharf]

Like tid said, its random to mention it - so there must have been a reason.

[distant idol]

what i am so confused

when did nobles come up

[shy wharf]

You said earlier, that it was completely random for them to mention 2 bodyguards being present at the final confrontation

[distant idol]

yeah ik that

but the nobles not being royalty

[shy wharf]

And I agree with that. Therefore there must be an important reason they were mentioned that we won't find out until later.

[distant idol]

thats just out of nowhere

true

[fossil rose]

@distant idol I just used the word nobility instead of royalty in my statement of literary cliche, because it's a little more broad

[dark heath]

I love coming into a new game and seeing deep ass lore to catch up on ;-;

[distant idol]

lmao mood

[dark heath]

KH was hard enough and I was up to date on every game for that

How tf do i catch up

[distant idol]

read it all

thats what i did

but tbf i joined just like three months after afk came out so it was alot easier for me

[silk widget]

Btw, isn't Ancelot described as having lost his left eye in the lore?

[distant idol]

where?

[silk widget]

Union lore of course... i may have to reread the whole story again.

[distant idol]

i dont remember seeing that anywhere in the union lore

[silk widget]

Let me skim through ut again

There

[distant idol]

oh yeah

then the stranger is def probably ancelot

[trim shell]

Mhm.

Late to the convo unfortunately for...reasons but the guy is heavily implied to be Ancelot.

[silk widget]

Are twisted realm and the nightland world where ezizh came from the same plane?

[distant idol]

they could be but tbh theres not that much evidence supporting that theory as far as i know

[trim shell]

^

Twisted realm is like, a parallel dimension(s).

And like, the nightland place could be one of these planes.

Or Ezizh could be tapping into these dimensions to help do his nightmare stuff somehow.

[silk widget]

I just hate how lilith is so vague when making these lores/stories 😩

[distant idol]

i mean i dont see any evidence against them being the same

but theres also not enough to prove it

cant be proven or disproven so p much do whatever lmao

[trim shell]

Yeah I have a bunch of questions to ask Belinda but she hasn't answered me yet

[silk widget]

Can you guys explain to me in simple words how ezizh projected himself to the "real world"

[gritty trail]

he basically became so much of a nightmare in dreams he became real

[trim shell]

Is Ezizh able to exist in the real world?

As far as I can tell he's sorta like tasi before she got a physical body.

[coral zodiac]

Ezith works with nightmare fuel

[gritty trail]

honestly yeah he's kinda like tasi
I'd assume some hypogeans created the "twisted armor" so ezizh can exist with a body

[distant idol]

uhh i figured he came out of that tree right

[trim shell]

That was in the dream realm.

[distant idol]

so someone summoned him into a physical body

oh was it??

[trim shell]

There were these sorcerers in the human plane.

Who wanted to get into the dream realm.

So they made this enchanted seed tree thingy.

[distant idol]

smh why are dream creatures so into trees

[trim shell]

^

[dark heath]

Imagine having character ideas with little clue about lore

Suffering

[dark heath]

lore

[lament meadow]

yes, that is indeed what this channel is for

[tight oasis]

Hi everyone 👋

[silk widget]

Hello there

[turbid quail]

What all do we know about Dura I see things mention her all the time?

[silk widget]

A lot. She is the backbone of afk arena's lores.

[trim shell]

Dura is.... very important, but also not present in most of the stories.

It's like, she's super important and significant but also isn't really talked about as much as you might expect, beyond passing mentions.

[silk widget]

Although dura doesnt have her own lore, but she has more details than most of the heroes in the game 😆

[frank meteor]

Dura is dead

That's all I know

[jovial lion]

1. Dura is dead
2. She was the goddess of life
3. Annih is her brother
4. Annih killed her due to jealousy
5. Her body was broken apart to form the artifacts in the game
6. She is responsible for the Celestials
7. She is responsible for the Lightbearers

[trim shell]

More minor stuff: she created the (large) oasis that sustains the maulers and the forest where most of the wilders live.

[frank meteor]

She created Antandra's house?

Dura, luv u

[vapid musk]

And also she created elementals

[trim shell]

According to one part of the lore, yeah.

Unfortunately lilith has been inconsistent on the origins of the elementals.

[vapid musk]

It mentioned on one of the PoT and in new artifacts, am I right?

[trim shell]

Yeah.

Iirc the Divine realm pot.

But then in khazard's lore it contradicts what was said in the Divine realm thing.

Since the pot says that udea was the first water elemental but khazard's says that there were many before udea.

[woven fulcrum]

Hhmm if you see the opening cinematic, dura encased herself in some form of vine before scattering her remaining power as artifact

Also i'm not really sure but i thought Dura's death never explicitly mentioned.. iirc she just "lost" to Annih in Orthros lore

Just a wild guess but perhaps Lilith will bring Dura as ingame feature, perhaps it's Dura's blessing or somethin... Let's see what surprise Lilith has for us

[trim shell]

I mean the word "fell" in orthros' story does imply that she died.

Reposted here because it's pretty significant.

Now we know that the first hypo war was around 1600 years ago.

[coral zodiac]

Where this come from? I'm curious..

[trim shell]

Someone asked VIP support.

[coral zodiac]

Ooooo

[vale grove]

Wait that means that Mezoth (appeared in the video of the hypo war) has also more than 1600 years

👀

[coral zodiac]

It would be realy cool that they tell the ages of every character...

[vale grove]

Yesss...

[trim shell]

^

And height.

[vapid musk]

YES

[trim shell]

I asked about lucretia's, should get an answer in a few days.

[coral zodiac]

(Or propose them to publish all of them too...)

[vale grove]

Yes, and ages

[coral zodiac]

(That would be easier for everybody)

[vapid musk]

Now I want to now how old Thane, Estrilda, Hendrik, Baden.... Ooof

[coral zodiac]

^^^^

This

[vale grove]

And for artist and lore fans

[coral zodiac]

^^^^^^

[vale grove]

Same

[distant idol]

OH MY GOD AAAA THANK YOU SO FUCKIN MUCH

I CAN MAKE THE LB CALENDAR ALOT MORE RELEVANT TO THE LORE TIMELINE

[gritty trail]

one 6-o-9 years ago

[trim shell]

Shush.

[distant idol]

so then present day is lb year 1621 or so

[trim shell]

Hmm.

I'd have to sit down and do the math.

[distant idol]

and with other years mentioned in lore

[trim shell]

We know zaph is a few years older than Lucretia.

[distant idol]

i think the bantus year was mentioned in one of the gb lores

[trim shell]

So ancelot is like 10-15 years older than her.

Probably less maybe?

Since a 45 y/o on the battlefield seems weird.

[distant idol]

not really lol

[vale grove]

I didn't know you had a lb calendar 👀

[silk widget]

So most heroes are from different era?

[distant idol]

just hypos and gb prob

and celestials

[vale grove]

^^^^^^

[distant idol]

the ingame lb calendar thats mentioned in luc and zaph union lore

its mentioned that the battlw takes place in lb year 21

[vale grove]

(Also Hello Claux)

[distant idol]

(lol hi)

[trim shell]

I'd put the current year in the lb calendar as like 1610-1615.

[vale grove]

I couldn't read it Busy week

[trim shell]

That's my rough guess.

[distant idol]

id agree with that guess, but maybe widen the range a lil bit because the end of the hypo war was around 0021

presumably

[trim shell]

Yeah that's fair.

[distant idol]

so id say 1610-1625 or so

[trim shell]

Mhm.

[coral zodiac]

(Petition to ask for all of the heroes' ages 🙌)

[trim shell]

But that's like, much better than having literally nothing to go off of.

[coral zodiac]

For the simpness lore

[distant idol]

pleaSE RAI

[trim shell]

And I can probably ask if they have official data for heights/ages

[distant idol]

we need heights and ages aaaa

[vale grove]

(raises hand)

[distant idol]

so much timeline stuff could be hahahhahavabfvsbanjsgavbsndis

so useful

[vale grove]

Yessssss

[trim shell]

I'll ask after I hear back about lucretia height and drez age.

[vale grove]

[coral zodiac]

Bless you Mia

[distant idol]

tbh i wanna know the celehypo and gb ages more than anything

could you ask for thoran too 🥺

[vale grove]

I want to ask about...well literally, everyone

[distant idol]

cuz then we have the fall of bantus+two other heroes and where they fit on the timeline

[silk widget]

Shemira's family is old as fuk too

[distant idol]

if we get thoran

well tbh i think shem and niru and daimon came from bantus

because niru got necromancy and was also stated to be a war medic

and the only wars i can really think of outside of the two big hypo wars are the bantus wars and the lb vs mauler wars

he couldve been a medic in the mauler wars tho so idk

[trim shell]

I could see him being a LB medic.

Since necromancy is a big no-no in lb society.

[slim ore]

Hot take rowan cannot be 14

[trim shell]

Yeah ikr

[slim ore]

I'm only here to say this

No 14 year old is running a merchant empire

[trim shell]

Rowan being 14 seems weird.

[silk widget]

Btw, bantus or Lenu people are elf-like human, right?

[trim shell]

I had him at 17 youngest.

[slim ore]

I will give you 16 or 17 at the YOUNGEST but in my soul he's like 18 19

[fleet notch]

Yeah, I can’t think of him being 14 either.

[slim ore]

Like if rosa is 15 rowan is def at least like 16 or 17

[distant idol]

idk i think hes like 15-16

[coral zodiac]

And Angelo?
He would be like 20? But the difference would be big...

[slim ore]

That too, angelo seems early 20s

[trim shell]

Aren't they just like, normal people?

Idk.

[coral zodiac]

22 or something suits better for Angelo

[vale grove]

Yeah

[slim ore]

And rowan remembers him, so he can't be that much older

[gritty trail]

rowan is smol tho

[slim ore]

And?

[distant idol]

as far as i know theyre just an empire of normal people that all died and became gb

[slim ore]

I'm small with a baby face

[gritty trail]

he does look like a kid

[slim ore]

I look like im 10 but im 17

[coral zodiac]

I am 1,47 m and I'm 19 lmao

[vale grove]

I'm 19 and I'm 147 cm tall

ESXRCTFBHUJNI

[coral zodiac]

sdfghjksdaf

[distant idol]

lmao

[slim ore]

People get shocked when I say im a senior

Still

[distant idol]

i miss being short

i used to be used as an armrest

now im just a pillow

[slim ore]

Ik a kid who literally looks like a 6th grader or younger whos a junior or sophomore

[coral zodiac]

We shock them with: "Omg, they are twins"

[silk widget]

That face looks 20?

[distant idol]

yeah about 20

[slim ore]

Yes...?

[distant idol]

seema right

[slim ore]

Early 20s

[silk widget]

30 at the least to me lol

[slim ore]

Have you loke

Seen a 24 year old with facial hair

Lmao

[distant idol]

lmao my brothers 21 and looks like angelo with short hair

[gritty trail]

he's young looking imo but old enough to be 20
handsome locks and facial hair
his ingame sprite heckles that up though

[fleet notch]

If you look at his splash art he seems younger than 30.

[slim ore]

Idk where this idea that only 30 year olds can have scruff came from but

Its factually incorrect

[distant idol]

my brother is literally angelo with a buzzcut

[fleet notch]

He looks pretty young here.

[slim ore]

All that said, iirc rowan remembers seeing Angelo give up the family name

So id put him at no more than 5 or so years younger

Which in turn means he's no younger than 15 or so

Maybe older depending on when Angelo dipped

also more rambles about aging in general, cuz like

a whole lot of people seem to think that u look like a baby until ur 23 and then u are suddenly 57

aging as a process is not necessarily linear or consistent, and has a whole lot to do with stress, genetics, etc.

someone can look at their prime for decades, or they can lose it within a few years

[vapid musk]

Don't forget that early there was forsed marriage in 14-15 y.o.
So, for me it is ok for Rowan to be something like this y.o.

[slim ore]

a 30 year old could easily look like angelo, sure, but chances are that by then, they'll probably have the start of laugh lines around their eyes, maybe a few more aches and pains

it's really the existence of wrinkles and such you can look for, because that's a result of elastic proteins starting to break down, or maybe greying hair, tho genetics can fuck that up too (a friend of mine is starting to go white at 17 thanks to genetics)

like shit is... way more gradual than u might end up thinking. it's easy to spot a 20 y/o vs a 60 y/o but u can and will sometimes get it wrong even with like, a decade gap of 20 v 30

u could fuck up 40 v 50 too, honestly

tl;dr expand ur idea of what qualifies as x age visually because you'd be shocked how wide it actually is

//aging rambles

[coral zodiac]

(Yeah, I watch a tv show about ages... I think it was called "Guess my age" or something similar... And wow, there are a lot of surprises...)

[slim ore]

fjdk yeah

esp like... there's this "black don't crack" thing where it seems (emphasis on seems cuz idk if it's scientifically true) that darker-skinned folks tend not to visibly age as fast

like will smith is in his 50s

and there was a photo floating around of this one black mom and her daughters, and everyone lost it cuz they thought they were all sisters

visual aging can be wack as hell dude

like internally somebody will feel 60, look 20 externally, but actually be 30

[distant idol]

oh yeah black and poc skin ages differentky and way slower

instead of wrinkling it just sags more and their skin can literally look so beautiful for so long

[dense cedar]

I wonder if they’d actually give me everyone’s ages if I asked. They’ve given me every other age so far 🤔

[trim shell]

I asked about drez.

Once they get back to me I'm gonna see if they have it for everyone, or if it's something they come up with when asked.

[lament meadow]

yeah, like ngl i doubt they keep track of this stuff

as weve seen with khazards lore

[trim shell]

Or soren's lore.

God, soren's lore.

Makes me question how credible the FB is at all.

[distant idol]

ugh sorens lore

sickening

tbh i think thorans age could be one of the most important in the game

[trim shell]

Mhm.

[charred flint]

How come Mortas's lore is so long and in chapters when every other hero's lore is shorter

[trim shell]

The length of heroes' lore has always been a little varied, and it's likely that Lilith had a lot they wanted to say about Mortas' backstory.

If it's a continued trend that'd be great but it could just be an outlier.

[gritty trail]

tbh some lores literally just describe what the characters are and that's kinda it.

example

solise lore

she's basically just a gardener

[shy wharf]

Also sometimes their story starts off really good and then ends really shitty, like Nara being a child sex trafficker.

[trim shell]

Uhhh.

That seems like an unnecessary statement.

[alpine barn]

Some heroes are stand alone while others have backstories that tie into a larger subplot.
Mortas happens to be part of one of those complex backstories

[gritty trail]

yep

WIP For Celestial OC

[charred flint]

Noice

[crystal tapir]

What. Nara’s a what.

(checks)

...oh good, she was killed before she could actually succeed at that. Good riddance.

[trim shell]

Yeah Nara participated in the slave trade.

IDK where u got the other part from.

[crystal tapir]

Selrus destroyed her ship and everyone on it on her first expedition, didn’t he?

[shy wharf]

I think I conflated the slave trade with her gangs of children part of her history. Though saying that children are sold to the highest bidder in a society like that basically goes without saying - as there is nothing sacred in slave trading.

[trim shell]

Yes,

[crystal tapir]

From what I’m understanding, she was the child.
Like if Stewie Griffin had an unholy grappling hook and the only way to defeat Niru.

[trim shell]

She did participate in the slave trade but I doubt that Lilith would have something like what u named earlier exist.

[trim shell]

U mean the one from Saurus' story?

[crystal tapir]

No, I just read Nara’s.

[shy wharf]

oh yeah thats right, wasnt it also rustport where they were trafficking children along with beast slaves like Saurus from his story?

[trim shell]

Yeah Nara's gang operated in Rustport.

And they had all sorts of slaves, men, women, children, wilders, etc.

[shy wharf]

Ok, so my original point still stands.

[trim shell]

The child trafficker part is correct.

[shy wharf]

The whole part is correct.

[crystal tapir]

What’s also correct is that I’m using Nara as fodder next chance I get.

[trim shell]

Even if it is possible I highly doubt that Lilith would include that in the lore, and it seems unnecessary to mention it.

Also I wouldn't bring that sort of thing up in this channel, trafficking is already a touchy subject.

[shy wharf]

My original comment was referring to how terrible of a person the character was as depicted in their own stories. In terms of "levels of terribleness" goes, it is important to state that one who sells children into the slave trade isn't only a 'slave trader' as their worst act of evil, but something that goes even a few steps beyond that in villainy.

@trim shell You mean because this is a chinese game?

[trim shell]

No, because that's an unnecessary/superfluous detail that they have no reason to include.

[crystal tapir]

Implications and fridge logic can be a writer’s worst enemy.

Regardless, I’ve listed her under “Moral Event Horizon” on the TVTropes YMMV subpage for AFKA for the slaver thing alone, not even accounting for the child involvement. That’s really all I have to say on it for now.

One thing I’ve been wondering about, do the fake heroes that are fought in campaign have an in-universe explanation?

[trim shell]

Not really.

Certain stages, like the final fight of chapter 1, are like, "you're fighting against the commander of the hypogean army"...

But beyond that there isn't one.

There are references to parallel dimensions (twisted realm lore) that could be used to justify it tho.

[gritty trail]

It was theorized that they are hypogeans, taking the form of heroes in the campaign

[crystal tapir]

I’ve personally been calling them “manikins” (borrowing the term from Dissidia Final Fantasy) and going the “they’re imperfect shadow clones” route, but I was just wondering if there was something I was missing.

[gritty trail]

First chapters sorta show the typical hypogean elite/mage/fiend comps, afterwards they start advancing more and more to the point where they rarely make appearances anymore late-game wise

[dark heath]

So maybe the Hypogeans were defeated early on but other factions grew to become a bigger threat than the Hypogeans? The mage/fiend/fodder comps towards the beginning could symbolize maybe a warning or something towards other factions fighting

Or maybe the fodder towards the start were corrupted by an outside force

[gritty trail]

I see it more as the hypogeans adapted to what they fight to the point they became what they're fighting as you progress further

[dark heath]

Ooooh

So shape shifters

[gritty trail]

yeah

it was theorized a while back that's what they did

hence why we fight a lot of duplicates and such

[dark heath]

Actually yeah I think that’s true

[jovial lion]

Hypogeans have been known to possess mortals, iirc that's still in the union story for Belinda and Lucius. They turn people into demons.

[dark heath]

Because if you read what faction the Demonic entity boss is... it’s hypogean

Plus I read a bit of the Demonic Entity’s lore

And it seems that Nemora once had a moment like Lucretia where she was drawn into the darkness, but escaped

So my guess is that once you defeated the Hypogeans early game, they left behind dark energy as you progress through the story and that energy took the forms of common heroes you fight. Hence why there are many duplicates

[gritty trail]

yup

[crystal tapir]

I imagine it’s probably a bit awkward when heroes have to fight the doppelgängers of someone close to them.
Being in Chapter 16, the Skreg carrying my party has been fighting a whole lot of Vurks. Can’t help but wonder how he’d feel about that.

[trim shell]

I mean, there is a big disconnect between gameplay and lore.

[crystal tapir]

Yeah, I just still have fun imagining.

[trim shell]

Mhm.

[silk widget]

Any guess on which hero will be released next based on the lores?

[trim shell]

So basically according to leaks the new hero is gonna be a female celestial.
My guess is Aina-The Frozen Mother, who's like the goddess of winter.

She's gonna be might tree and wield a sword (in case that matters to u).

Alright some more info from Belinda: Lucretia is 198 CM with the horns. Zaph is 205 CM.

Drez is 17 years old.

And they have a chart of heights in Chinese.

[mossy parcel]

!!!

[trim shell]

Official character heights, in CM.

[coral zodiac]

BLESS

(Looking at Hendrik's respecfully)

Hmmmm...yes, I'm a simp

Also

@distant idol

(Sorry for ping)

But heights

Oh wait!

@wooden bluff @plain jolt Sorry for the ping but you would be interested in these ^^

[trim shell]

So the shortest and tallest characters are in the same faction (not counting Ezizh).

[trail kite]

Thane and Baden are same height

[trim shell]

Mhm.

This is important.

[coral zodiac]

@slate island Thane height

[trim shell]

Wait wtf I'm the same height as thane

fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck.

[coral zodiac]

I am 1 cm shorter than Isabella

[trail kite]

I'm as same as Belinda

[vale grove]

My mind made boom, I always thought that Thane was smaller than Baden

[trail kite]

And I saw...large height gap

[mossy parcel]

!!!

215!!!

Tall boy!!

[trim shell]

Yes.

[mossy parcel]

[coral zodiac]

Yep

[mossy parcel]

NAUDHW WE'VE FINALLY GOT HEIGHT CHARTS IM SO HAPPY

[trim shell]

I asked for age just now.

IDK if they have a similar thing tho.

[vale grove]

Baden wears heels

[trim shell]

And if they do I'll have to spend some time translating.

"translating".

[vale grove]

My mad planned drawing is confirmed

[coral zodiac]

I'm looking respectully at Hendrik, Grezhul and Lucius

Fun fact: I want to cosplay almost all times tall characters... and I'm Durri sized lmao

[lament meadow]

moving over here to reiterate that this is fucking BULLSHIT

[coral zodiac]

Seirus is 203 cm

[lament meadow]

YALL SAW HIM IN THE ANIMATION

HES TALLER THAN 7 FEET

[trim shell]

Hawk I'm sorry you think Mezoth should be taller.

[coral zodiac]

SEIRUS IS 203 CM

WT- IS WRONG WITH ME?!?!? AAAAAAAAA

[frank meteor]

What is going on

I was summoned

[coral zodiac]

Scroll up you simp

[trim shell]

Scroll up.

[lament meadow]

and im sorry you think you can wholeheartedly trust devs who cant even keep their fucking lore straight

[frank meteor]

Damn Antandra is cute & smol

Wasn't expecting that

;-;

171

Reaaaaally small

[trail kite]

Eironn is tall...
Is that also count his horns

[trim shell]

Yes, almost definitely.

[trail kite]

Damn he look tall af

[echo finch]

nah fam it’s all about kaz

and shemira 🧟‍♂️

[broken citrus]

My Mauler banner was mostly correct but this is all sorts of pain

[frank meteor]

Yeah

Warek is really tall

[mossy parcel]

She isn't small you're just a giant

[trim shell]

Probably.

[vapid musk]

Holy.... Eironn height just... ow

[trim shell]

The horns inflate it a little.

Same with lucretia, she's really closer to 178 totally not saying that bc that's my height

[silk widget]

@trim shell is that height chart official?

[trim shell]

Yeah, I just had to translate stuff and put it together.

Lemme see if I can grab the original thing.

[silk widget]

Very interesting. Where did you get it from?

[trim shell]

Here is the original thing, courtesy of VIP support.

[open scarab]

lyca on horse is quite tall

[silk widget]

Is your chart including every thing from the original one?

[trim shell]

Yeah.

[vapid musk]

Well
This is really interesting information. Now it will be cool to know the age of all the characters Yeah, I'm clearly asking too much

[trim shell]

Yeah, unfortunately there isn't an official age chart.

[silk widget]

Eironn at 210 cm is huge

Not sure if his height was measured from his horns

[trim shell]

We know a few though, Rosa is 15, Rowan 14, Isabella 12, drez 17, eironn 25, solise 24, saurus 33, lucretia/zaph in their 1630s.

Eironn's height does most likely include horns.

[silk widget]

Were these info from belinda support?

[trim shell]

Yes.

[vapid musk]

I LOVE that my headcanon about the height difference between Eironn and Estrilda is now actually canon... or not... Egh, horns

[silk widget]

Brutus is only 200 cm tall? Reading his lore, i thought he was like a giant

[trim shell]

"only".

[vapid musk]

well if 200 cm is only for you.....

[broken citrus]

The fact Tidus is 2nd tallest Mauler and 1 cm shy from Golus

Pains me

Because like Anoki is 195.

But I do chuckle at Oden being that tall because of his loghouse cake for a head

[trail kite]

Shortie Fera and Eironn....
My hc is canon

Also how old are the GB heroes

[trim shell]

We don't know.

Isa is 12 so vedan is like, in the ballpark of being a dad.

Daimon is physically 12.

[trail kite]

Shortie pie Ferael go brr

At least he taller than Kelthur

[frank meteor]

Daimon looks like 6

[lament meadow]

wtf what kinda 12yo still carries around a stuffed animal

[crystal tapir]

Vurk isn’t actually twice Skreg’s height? Darn. I liked that mental image.

And apparently I’m exactly one inch taller than him on the ironjaw.

At least he’s still adorably tiny and grumpy. And I wasn’t expecting Drez to be the tallest of the three.

[distant idol]

aaa thank you for the ping rai!! ❤️

def wouldnt have seen it otherwise

[coral zodiac]

Np!

[distant idol]

omg tidus is really tall

taller than warek

[wooden bluff]

WAIT BADEN AND THANE HAVE THE SAME HEIGHT-
Rip manlet Thane HCs 😔

[coral zodiac]

😔

[distant idol]

sad

;-;

i wonder if these heights actually carry over to the ingame sprites

[coral zodiac]

Probably the splash art ones, not sprites

[distant idol]

i feel like they would cuz theres some of the heights of different forms of the heroes tho

cuz like

daimon with and without stitchy

[vale grove]

My brain did PEUM when I read it

[distant idol]

lmao

peum

what does that sound like

[vale grove]

So in conclusion, Baden wears heels

[wooden bluff]

Baden wit the high boots

[vale grove]

Brain explosion

[distant idol]

baden in 14 inch platformers

[vale grove]

omg

[coral zodiac]

^^^^^^

[vapid musk]

Lowkey I like it ^

[vale grove]

searchs is google 14 inch platformers

[distant idol]

oop

ngl baden in platformers isnt something i knew i needed

[trim shell]

There are many things like that.

Such as Silas in a maid dress.

[vale grove]

watchs the 14 inch heels

OMG

[distant idol]

i mean i knew i needed silas in a maid dress

cuz i need everyone in a maid dress

[vale grove]

Internal screaming

[woven fulcrum]

Huh I thought afk arena character would have a bigger range of height, like One Piece's character

[trim shell]

Fair.

[coral zodiac]

I did Hendrik in maid outfit by Jay's AFKtober prompt

[distant idol]

well it goes from smol to like a giant dream creature

[woven fulcrum]

I mean look at the first Zaph-Luc trailer, mezoth clearly looks like he's 5 meters

[coral zodiac]

(Bless you Jay)

[distant idol]

oo i remember maid hendrik

that was great

[trim shell]

Yeah I would've expected some people below 1m.

[vale grove]

I did Thane, idk when Baden

[coral zodiac]

I loved how I did the expression

[distant idol]

i did too

[wooden bluff]

I loved all of them 😔

[distant idol]

basically if its in a maid dress i love it

[woven fulcrum]

Look at this

Mezoth is big af

[wooden bluff]

Either zaph smol or mezoth b e e g

[trim shell]

Maybe everyone else is really short?

[coral zodiac]

(Maybe the new height is because he possesed a person, not the real one)

[wooden bluff]

Hmmm could be

He's still a growing boi

[woven fulcrum]

I guess it's because the current mezoth is something akin to incarnation

[vale grove]

or he changes height eating

[woven fulcrum]

But i expect orthros to be like at least 3 m

[distant idol]

idk hes small clock boi with big mech arms

[wooden bluff]

Orthos without clock: I am but smol

[coral zodiac]

(Pocket sized clock)

: D

[distant idol]

omg i love pocketwatches

[wooden bluff]

(Pocket watch aquired)

[distant idol]

ive always wanted one

[trim shell]

Ezizh is a certifiable Big Boi but only when he's not in the real world .

[distant idol]

i used to have like three but they gone now

[woven fulcrum]

Lemme put this here, so i don't need to scroll up

[wooden bluff]

We take the orthos
We let him chill in the jacket pocket

[woven fulcrum]

Belinda is unexpectedly smol

Even smaller than Gwyneth

[coral zodiac]

He is Ezizth.zip

[woven fulcrum]

[distant idol]

golus is way smaller than expected

hes basically a guy riding a horse

[trim shell]

Mhm.

[coral zodiac]

I'm happy with Hendrik's, Lucius's and Grezhul's

[distant idol]

but hes way shorter than estrilda

[coral zodiac]

[wooden bluff]

Thoran smoler than expected

[trim shell]

He's similar to lyca.

[distant idol]

do you think they counted estrildas flag in her height??

[trim shell]

And thoran isn't smol shemira is just tall.

[vale grove]

I used a link that a friend shared with me for compare heights and I did Baden and myself, he's tall

[wooden bluff]

I expected Thoran to be closer to Grezhul's height tbf

[coral zodiac]

Same with my boiz

[woven fulcrum]

The devs lack imagination, these people should've had wider variety of height

[vale grove]

Also I'm a Durri ™️ confirmed

I'm 147 cm tall ✊ 😔

[woven fulcrum]

Anoki and Brutus could've been like 230 cm

[wooden bluff]

I'm Belinda sized
Furthers my plans to cosplay her

[distant idol]

why is a giant boi like ogi so smol

like hes picking up trees n stuff in his lore

like i know hes tall by human standards but

not tree picking up tall

[wooden bluff]

Mood buddy
Looking at dnd for example goliaths are already up to 250
Giants can't be found under400 afaik

[vapid musk]

I'm really confused that Anoki is shorter than Tidus lol

[woven fulcrum]

There probably will be a revised height version

Maybe because ogi is hunched?

[distant idol]

tidus is tall boi

sad

i hced that he was smol

[wooden bluff]

Could be that that's his leaned over height

[distant idol]

for headpstting purposes

[wooden bluff]

Tidus is tall n lanky

Can sit down for pats tho

[trim shell]

Yes.

[coral zodiac]

I'm 147 cm, and I'm working on Hendrik's cosplay...
And I have on the maybe list Grezhul and Lucius...

[distant idol]

no tidus is thick af

tall n thick

[trim shell]

Jay is a visionary. You can sit

[wooden bluff]

.........just say you are the pocket version too
I fully support it

[coral zodiac]

lmao

True true

[distant idol]

lmao

pocket hendrik

[coral zodiac]

✊ 😔

[distant idol]

wait omg yall remember that like

small urlic art

ulric*

[coral zodiac]

I will always be the pocket sized version of the character

OH YES

[vale grove]

Pocket Baden also

[distant idol]

where he was tiny bean baby boi

we n e e d smol babey bean hendrik

[coral zodiac]

MORONIC MARS DID THEM IIRC

[distant idol]

ye i couldn't remember who

ty

[coral zodiac]

omg

[trim shell]

Lucretia is the same height as me without the horns and your can't convince me otherwise.

[coral zodiac]

This

[wooden bluff]

I just know I'll definitely need a corset under that Belinda dress
That waist? Snatched

[distant idol]

ok i just googled my height in cm

im 167cm so

lets see

[vale grove]

Tidus can be like my dog, when she's up she's big, but when she's slepping she compress a lot and looks a lot smaller

[trim shell]

I'm 178.

[distant idol]

hehe im satrana sized

[wooden bluff]

Satrana, Ankhira, Solise and Rayne are closest

All 168

[distant idol]

ye

ankhira is shorter than expected

[wooden bluff]

Mia out here Thane and Baden sized

[trim shell]

I'm ok with that if it also makes me lucretia sized.

[coral zodiac]

I'm Numisu sized

And near Durris

[distant idol]

gtg to class byeeee

[coral zodiac]

Bye!!

[wooden bluff]

Byeee

[vale grove]

Bye!

[wooden bluff]

Me, looking at a npc I designed for my campaign: they are hypo shaped
Me:
Me:
Me, sweating: don't convert yet another character-
Should I

[coral zodiac]

npc? What does it mean? (I'm not familiarized with the meaning, sorry... )

[vapid musk]

Same height with Raine
I like it

[distant idol]

npc is non player character

like a shopkeeper or smth

[coral zodiac]

Ooooooo

Thanks!

[distant idol]

mhm!

[plain jolt]

“With ears” Hehehehe that’s some interesting info @coral zodiac thank you for sharing 😄

[coral zodiac]

Np!

[slate island]

Thane height is pretty accurucate

[trim shell]

Goody.

I am the same height as Thane.

[coral zodiac]

[trim shell]

How does that make you feel.

[slate island]

well Thane is hot

and not relateed at all to you

correlation doesn't equal causation

[trim shell]

fair.

Lucretia and Thane are also approximately the same height.

(Ignoring her horns).

[slate island]

5'10

is still chad height

[vale grove]

Hi Goody!

[lament meadow]

FUCKING R I G H T ? !

fuckin tell me hes only seven feet tall

fuck outta hereeeeeeee

[mossy parcel]

Sbxhs Casa has the same image I do

Of Mezoth

[lament meadow]

yeah its

very prolific

[gritty trail]

I mean, this height could be mentioning his height for now rather than before
His reincarnation may not have been accurate as before

[lament meadow]

mmmmmmmmmmmm

i still think he can change his height at will

that or he literally needs to eat bc hes a growing boy

[gritty trail]

[wooden bluff]

He needs some milk to grow strong bones

[plucky kiln]

........ In a world........

[steep grove]

what about mezoth

[trim shell]

@lost lava the one thing stopping zolrath from literally winning the entire war by himself is Orthros.

[steep grove]

he has the highest power rating in the game doesnt he?

just barely

[trim shell]

no?

and in game power/=lore power.

[steep grove]

ik

but idk if it would match with lore

but mortas has higher

[trim shell]

Also @lost lava to address what u said regarding dura's death, that was just an asspull to justify her death.

[mossy parcel]

👁👁

[trim shell]

Since the idea that orthros couldn't do anything to save her implies there are some artificial restrictions on his power, like he can't change that much because he doesn't want to mess things up badly.

Zolrath, ofc, would not care about this.

[lost lava]

more like fate

it was decided by fate that dura had to die

so no matter what she would

[trim shell]

I mean that's they excuse they gave.

But fate as far as we know isn't like a concrete concept in the game that's decided by anything.

[steep grove]

ya zolrath wouldnt be limited to do good

cause as much chaos as he wants

[trim shell]

They just needed a way to get around Orthros being able to turn back time/save dura.

[lost lava]

zolrath is just trolling orthos

[charred flint]

Orthros is clearly very wise and knows how to use his power correctly he knows if saving dura could make drastic change

[lost lava]

that's all he cares about

screwing up orthos

[trim shell]

No.

He cares about messing up human society.

[lost lava]

that too because he is a hypogean

[trim shell]

killing important artists, leaders, etc.

[lost lava]

but he enjoys screwing with orthos too

[trim shell]

Orthros follows Zolrath around.

[lost lava]

yeah trying to fix his mess

[trim shell]

Zolrath tries to fuck with humans and avoid orthros.

[steep grove]

how powerful is khazard lore wise

since his host is a very powerful creature already

[trim shell]

Khazard is also super powerful lore wise.

Before his corruption he was one of the 5 major elementals.

Who were like, originally created by Dura and very high up on the totem pole.

[steep grove]

ya

guardian of the ocean at that

which i feel would be even more powerful due to it covering most of the world

[trim shell]

I don't really think there is a power difference between the major elementals, but he certainly plays a larger role.

[steep grove]

do we have the other elemental guardians yet?

i assume they would be wilders

[trim shell]

We do.

[lost lava]

isn't serius the guardian of water ?

[charred flint]

Mia who was The "Aina" thing you were talking about

[trim shell]

This is a bit of a weird subject. I personally don't think so, there is conflicting information about it.

But my take is that Seirus is a more minor elemental.

Since he spends all his time in the Azure Cove.

[steep grove]

probably fresh water

havent read his lore

ive only read the hypos and celestials, some randoms of others that are connected

like tasi

[trim shell]

We have Aladir (earth), Udea (who came before khazard, water), Zateus (fire), Elo (nature), Winas (wind).

They aren't necessarily part of specific factions.

[trim shell]

Aina is who I believe the new celestial is going to be.

[charred flint]

ooooooooh

[trim shell]

That was rumored by sushi.

[steep grove]

elementals would make sense under either wilder or celestial

unless corrupted

[charred flint]

Is there any leaks on what they look like

[trim shell]

She's the goddess of Winter and was referred to in one of Dolly's dialogues.

[charred flint]

[trim shell]

and was talked about extensively in the midwinter festivities event.

[trim shell]

from the "Flora Joins AFK Arena" video.

[charred flint]

[trim shell]

on the official YT channel.

I'm like, 90% sure that's her.

[charred flint]

She looks amazing!!!

[steep grove]

would make sense

[trim shell]

Keep in mind this is speculation that she's gonna be the next hero, I could be wrong.

Since the next one is allegedly gonna be a female celestial.

And there are so many clues hinting that its her.

[gritty trail]

If it is her, we now have an opposite of Kane

just a thought

would Kane and Khazard hate each other?

[trim shell]

Kane is like, the commander of the Hypogean army, and Khazard is controlled by a hypogean, so no

?

[distant idol]

i dont think he spends all his time there lol

thats just like basically his house

khaz prob had a house too

[trim shell]

Eh he kinda does tho.

"He naturally protects the area to which he is bound".

[exotic yoke]

[distant idol]

his voice lines say "the ocean is my dominion" implying hes in charge

[trim shell]

That's true.

Elemental lore is inconsistent and it makes me sad.

[distant idol]

and since theres an implied elemental succession, imo hes the water element and the azure cove is just his house

[trim shell]

I mean khaz never died.

And seirus spends like, all his time in the Azure Cove.

[distant idol]

yeah but tbh i dont think the rule is that the elemental has to die, that just doesn't make sense

khaz stopped doing his job so the cycle continues

and it never exclusively said seirus spends all his time in the azure cove

[trim shell]

I mean, from what I can tell from Seirus' dialogue, he mostly just sorta sticks to the cove, doesn't like deal with the rest of the ocean.

A lot of the elemental lore is nebulous/inconsistent so idk.

Also there's this line where it says he "denied the eternal cycle", implying that he didn't get replaced.

[jovial lion]

of course the goddess of winter has nordic vibes

if shes holding a spear deadass she is Skadi

[trim shell]

I wish.

She wields a sword tho.

[lament meadow]

char heights w/ imperial conversions

[trim shell]

Ty Hawk!

[shy wharf]

hey look its Loki!

[coral zodiac]

dfxgchvhbjk

[slim ore]

oi

one of those is wrong

ogi's in is right, 114 in

but that converts to 9'6 not 10'6

he's a full foot shorter than ulmus

//fades away

[lament meadow]

its ok atom we still love u

[slim ore]

also i think i wrote mirael as 5'6 but she's 5'5 like belinda and cece

[slim ore]

bless

[jovial lion]

tfw actual loki is now overshadowed by mildly greasy looking marvel loki now

[slim ore]

dont bully tom hiddleston like this he's doing his best

[lament meadow]

wait why is this in afk-lore

[slim ore]

idk but there will be no hiddleslander in my house

[jovial lion]

someone called the winter goddess loki thats why

hiddleston looks greasy! thats not my loki

[silk widget]

Where is Azure Cove's exact location?

[trim shell]

NGL there isn't a specific location that stands out unfortunately.

[slim ore]

if it's a cove it'll probabloy be on the little river part near the rocks

esp if it's azure

however comma if this is the one where nara died then that's like

bottom left of the map i think?

there's some town down there that i think she's fom or smthn

[trim shell]

So we know the Azure Cove is a beach, and there aren't really any sandy looking areas afaik.

The location in relation to Rustport is weird.

Since it's a pretty far distance.

[charred flint]

Imma read Seirus's lore and see if theres any clues of where azure cove is

[trim shell]

We know it's in between the bastion of elements and the dark forest (Yggdrasil).

[charred flint]

Here are some of the places I think it is dont mind my friends pfp their but behind my friends mark their is a whirlpool and in seirus's lore it says it contains whirlpools

[trim shell]

I think the one on the middle would be the best choice, if not for the fact that it's elevated a lot.

[silk widget]

Isn't the dark forest right below ranhorn city?

[trim shell]

If it is then that's some more annoying inconsistencies.

[silk widget]

It should be imo

[trim shell]

I'll have to check in a second.

Can't go on the app rn.

[silk widget]

The landscape of the forest is identical to that location

[trim shell]

Bc afaik the wilders don't actually live in the dark forest.

But rather in the forest surrounding yggdrasil.

[silk widget]

Yggdrasil is like a sacred place, so i think the word "dark" is not approriate to describe it

[trim shell]

Mhm.

[silk widget]

So i just took a quick look at nara's lore. It does imply that azure cove is between yggdrasil and bastion of the elements

Getting confused lol

[trim shell]

That is where the Azure cove is located AFAIK.

Since it's connected to where the wilders live.

The detail in Seirus' story is either wrong or the Dark Forest is the forest surrounding Yggdrasil.

[silk widget]

Yeah, thats where i got confused

[silk widget]

Everything related to Seirus seems so inconsistent. 😆

[lament meadow]

as inconsistent as his own sprite

[distant idol]

i always figured the azure cove was near abyssal expedition cuz in his union lore he fights the hentai beast with a name i dont remember

[trim shell]

The AE is like, on another continent.

By ch35 or so IIRC.

[narrow fern]

i've got what might be a dumb question. canonically, how old is nara? haven't read her story in probably a year so i don't remember what/if it was lol

[trim shell]

We don't know.

She's been dead for a while, but her physical age is probably late teens/early 20s.

[narrow fern]

r.i.p. thanks for the clarification, anyhow 🙌

[silk widget]

Oh so the "bonapei" place that was mentioned in seirus union lore was on the other continent? I didn't know that

[vapid musk]

Holy Cat, so next hero will be really Winter Mother? Her look on twitter is really badass

[vale grove]

Yeah! I saw her right now! Also she appeared a bit in the trailer of Flora when she joined

Looks like the new celestial will look really cool

[vapid musk]

well I think I have a new wifu

[vale grove]

Same

~~Also the winter skin that I was making for Thane will fit perfectly with the new celestial ~~

idk when I'm going to finish it

[vapid musk]

sounds interesting

[rose veldt]

Are there any canon AFK Arena short stories out there?

other than the ones from hero story?

[dense cedar]

On the Facebook page they have done several

[trim shell]

I'd call them lore dumps instead of short stories, but yeah.

There's also union lore.

[exotic siren]

Ye

Ngl, my Lucretia is almost lvl 100. This feels nice

[sullen saddle]

Speaking of heros ages, I wanna know graveborns ages at death too

[trim shell]

Unfortunately, they don't really have this info--however, we do know that daimon and Isabella are both physically 12.

[crimson stump]

Random question, last expedition I only made it to 2nd to last tier, is it worth buying honorable again?

[trim shell]

#classic-chat

[plush vortex]

Shouldn't it be in #classic-questions

Because last time I checked that's a question and questions belong in the question chat so shouldn't it be in questions

[crimson stump]

Oops wrong channel your right

Sorry

[jovial lion]

i know people tend to argue that physical and mental ages are different but the more you physically age the more your brain ends up wrinkling to further process the world

so like, for all purposes i would rather not relive the time where someone tried excusing lewd silvina with "well she would be 35 now despite literally being physically 12"

and yes, those ages just barely differ but theyre totally different as well.

as for not knowing or wanting to know GB ages before death well... as Mia said theres not much to really figure for them.

[trim shell]

And an important thing to remember is that if someone is physically or mentally underage, then it is not ok to express attraction towards them.

[jovial lion]

We know that: Shem and Niru were at least over 18 by 12 years, given that their child is 12 at death, but he died at some point... and we dont know how long he was dead before revival.

oh definitely, its very ehfigjfk of a topic

knowing that Shem was grieving for a while before Niru came back, and also he died BEFORE she did, again, what are their ages? if i wanted to guess id have to dig up the lore again for some spitballing

Ferael was likely early to mid twenties given how he was very young to be a professional archer, and how attractive he supposedly was.

[trim shell]

I could ask at some point.

But they don't really have official ages.

[jovial lion]

some characters do have approximate ages mentioned in early life, so its easier to approximate.

well yes i also know theres no official ages (even if yeah there are in some very specific cases), but it just shows how difficult it can be to even guess or approximate an age.

[trim shell]

No, we do have some official ages, but like... it's hard to ask since last time I asked for all the hypos I got told that they don't really have that info.

I might be more successful asking for specific heroes.

[jovial lion]

hypos is makes sense imo

some of them evidently were not turned (Ezizh lol), thus a biological or mental age just doesnt exist, they merely are.

[trim shell]

I mean they had Lucretia's age.

[jovial lion]

i dont know about new information regarding new hypogeans

even if i redownloaded the game for shits and giggles on bluestacks i didnt even go to read stuff oof

and since well, i have brought this up before but turning into a hypogean can be iffy. since who are you asking? the demonic spirit or the poor vessel / host with regards to a Union Lore (Lightbringers)

.... i kind of want to read zaph lore becauss he is a Large Beefy Man

[vapid musk]

My friend asked about Thane's age
He is 33
Now I have a big question how old is Estrilda....

[trim shell]

Ooh so you have Thane's age.

[jovial lion]

her lore states a vague age in her backstory

[trim shell]

interesting.

The latest age we hear for estrilda is 16 or so.

But I'm sure she's older.

[jovial lion]

yes, hence "backstory", its in the past but given she needed years of training and what not you can guestimate her age

[vale grove]

Now I know it!

[vapid musk]

Me too, cause in one of VoW mentioned, that she is a General now
And ugh.. General in her 16? It's kinda strange

[coral zodiac]

I need all ages...

[vapid musk]

Me too, my friend, me too

[trim shell]

I have a list going.

it's not very extensive though.

[vale grove]

All of us wants them~✊

[trim shell]

But if anyone gets more ages confirmed, please DM me it (if u ping i might be asleep and miss it).

[coral zodiac]

Yay!!!!

[vapid musk]

Oh, ok!

[trim shell]

Only like 11 people on it tho.

[mossy parcel]

Someone needs to tell Goody about Thanes age