afk-lore

[hot plinth]

Dk yet

[sand canopy]

[proper jasper]

[hot plinth]

I guess maetria would be more like gean grey dark Phoenix huh lol

[hot plinth]

@proper jasper im playing the even ill get up tonwhere they fall into the alter and give you SS we know everything before from the comics

[proper jasper]

Oh thanks a lot! No need to screencap everything ajdhjs, but if you find something interesting I'd love to see it

[hot plinth]

Too late lol

Lol ill stop its alot

But i was right

She wants to sacrafic talene to bring everyone back....but there is more to it she dont want to stop the elemental imbalance

So the world will be destroyed

[proper jasper]

Oh wow ajdhjs

Thanks for sending!

[hot plinth]

I believe there is more

But the in game wvent details alot

You have to fight her 3 times so far

Finishing up

4...

5...

6 omfg

Wonder if this will be like it in the comic lol

NO NO NO NO NO NO

NOOOOOOO

[proper jasper]

Huh??

Nfhsjfhks sniped

[hot plinth]

Oh fuck you bot

Slower baki lol

Im crying bro...

This part...

This fucking part...

[proper jasper]

?????

What???

[hot plinth]

...

Please dont tell me thats how it ends

[proper jasper]

Ough maybe delete this and resend it w spoiler warning?

[hot plinth]

Sure

No i refuse to believe that...

I REFUSE

We need comic answerrs now!!!!

[proper jasper]

Well I suppose it makes sense? Given how they set it up. But I half expected ||them to pull some deus ex machina and have her be saved anyways||

[hot plinth]

I mean ya...||i just didnt think shed sacrafice her spark.....thought maybe we would cure the hypo from maetria and shed sacrafice herself as she kinda fucked up the wheel...but my talene....||

NO NO NO!!!!

[proper jasper]

Well it did say ||as long as an obsidian finch is alive, the elemental imbalance will keep happening so..||

[hot plinth]

But doesnt the furnace just rebirth them

After the imbalance os fixed

Now im a sad baki at work...

[proper jasper]

If that was the case, why would Maetria need to sacrifice the world to rebirth her people, and why would she resent the ritual if she was going to just do the exact same thing in the end? But who knows, ||maybe there will be a rebirth of the finches in the furnace?||

[hot plinth]

It would rebirth new finches from my understanding

Basically elemental imbalance happens they all die to furnace after rebalance new finches are born

[proper jasper]

Could be yeah, so then ||all the finches of the old generation would still have to die for it to happen||

[hot plinth]

To save the world from the next imbalance maetria just didnt want to die and she wanted her people that died in anciwnt times brought back not new ones....from what i understood

And thats why she wanted enternal life to figure out how to do that

Making the deal with the hypo

[proper jasper]

Yes, but that's the thing

For whatever comes next to happen, there ||cannot be any obsidian finch left alive. She said so herself, that when she realized that Talene was still here, a new imbalance would come||

[hot plinth]

Framton being the dick he is muredered all the finches from the newer generation ie talanes generation

So talene was all that was left to stop this elemental imbalance

[proper jasper]

Yep basically

But Maetria didn't give a damn about the world

Her plan would doom everybody else basically

??

What

[hot plinth]

I was agreeing

Lol

I said yup

And it got deleted

[proper jasper]

Why is that getting censored????

[hot plinth]

Why is what?

[proper jasper]

Why is yup getting deleted

[hot plinth]

Somones deleting our chat i think

[proper jasper]

That makes no sense

Only that got deleted

[hot plinth]

Lol idk

[proper jasper]

Weird

[hot plinth]

Idk how her plan would of worked though...if talene woulda died and brough back maetria generation....another imbalance would occur and theyd all die again anyway cept maeteia but this time without talene...

So as you stated ||both maetria and talene needed to die ||

[proper jasper]

Her plan was only to bring back the finches. It'd have basically caused the elemental imbalance to go out of control from what I gather

Yeah pretty much

[hot plinth]

But now im sad

[proper jasper]

Pat pat

[hot plinth]

Asni said i had to ffight her 6 times so curious if thats how its gonna happen in comics

Like maybe she can make clones of herself or something

[proper jasper]

Lmao

Probably just for effect

It's not over in a flash after all

[hot plinth]

Maybe hodld on ill show ya

So thats thr in game.map

And thos circles is where she spawned and had to rekill her 6 times

Wait 7 sorry

Cause she started in the middle

Maybe she has 7 rebirths in her before she dead?

[proper jasper]

So it's like 7 boss fight stages but without the escalation and variation?

[hot plinth]

Lol pretty much

[proper jasper]

[hot plinth]

Idk kinda has me excited about the the comica

And poor ezizh...still no involvement in final battle

[proper jasper]

Lmao he just got sidelined completely

[hot plinth]

Pretty much lol

[proper jasper]

Yeah I'm looking forward to see where the comic goes

There's still many chapters left

[hot plinth]

Hes about as important as his only in game use lol

[proper jasper]

I wish I could use the Ezizhsob sticker here

[hot plinth]

That one?

[proper jasper]

Lmao yeah that one

[hot plinth]

But bro that sucks.....but as you said it makes so much sense

[hot plinth]

@proper jasper overall i love the entire story....it was a damn good story with so many trials and tribulations....so many twists and turns and gorcha monents....lilith went all in on this and made a banger of a story.....what you think of it?

I mean its not fully over...but god damn it was so good specially with the maetria twist...i still loved the fact i throrised there was something more to it and a bigger bad...like i love ezizh but i didnt feel he was smart enough to put something like this in motion

[proper jasper]

I'm going to bed soon so I can answer tomorrow, but psst, remember spoiler text

[hot plinth]

Last thing

Haha

[proper jasper]

I love bottom image of her

That's me when I draw art for Gabe

[hot plinth]

Lol

I love thesse lil fun corner comics

And the full comics too

Thry dont dissapoint thats for sure

[rich sparrow]

Can someone give the link to the comic?

About maetria

[hot plinth]

Sure

Well

If you want the cn version you need to dl a apk

If you are on phone

https://b22.top/j0Au0W4

For english

https://comics.inkr.com/title/2264-afk-arena-the-last-obsidian-finch

[viral pond]

It was really interesting
I just wished Maetria wasn't the antagonist

[hot plinth]

Why?

I mean beaidea she being the cute nerdy girl

[viral pond]

Uuuuuh
Because she seems like a very good person
Even if it she was just using everyone to sacrifice the whole world to bring back her kind

A good comrade

[viral pond]

That's the other reason

They went through lots of adventures together
They're practically have to be friends already

Until in the end of course

[hot plinth]

I mean....so killing everyone in the world thrn eventually dying yourself cause the elemental instability isnt stopped is a good thing?

Like i get she loves her people that is a very noble thing....but to sacrafice the world just to temporarily have some happiness....is def not the way...her people died a long time ago...she made a deal with a demon...like i get it sucks and you dont like your creators plans...but its the cycle to keep all life preserved and sometimes sacrafices are needed to be made.

[crystal tapir]

I still can't believe the entire direction of the game's plot

Was decided by

The old tier list.

I guarantee you: if Talene wasn't broken at the time she came out, she wouldn't have won that accursed popularity contest, and this entire story arc would have never happened.

[hot plinth]

Naw im sure thry had several plots for different heross

[viral pond]

I see

[viral pond]

I agree

Although
Part of me dont want some of my favorite heroes to be awakened for some reason in the future I dont know why
I guess i jsut like for who they are without being awakened
Like my favorites Wu Kong, Flora, Gwyneth and Mehira and some few others
Although I woudl like to see Awakened Mirael, Hogan and Niru

But its the develoeprs choice

Nothing we can hope, wish or do about it

That reminds me
Do you all think the next plot will involve awakened ezizh?

[hot plinth]

awakened isnt exclusive to old heroes just fyi

ie maetria

but its possible since ezizh got hard shafted\

ezizh can still be plot armor

all the current heroes can for that matter as well

[bold bone]

She was happy to sacrifice herself in the story, but seeing her folks dying is too much for her, and i understand, and she start the ceremony, so it was for her like she sent them to death, and no one tell them that

[hot plinth]

no she didnt start anything the Furnace started up after the Imbalance of her time and called them all there

and no she wasnt happy she was pissed cause of the creators fuck up....and she refused to die hence why she made a deal with a demon for immortality to figure out a way to bring her people back

and she found a way and that was to sarcrafice the last obsidian finches spark ie talene to the furnace and it would bring em all back and i believe the energy she had was going to break or she was going to break the furnace afterwards

[bold bone]

Im refering to that, but ya look like all finches released the flare within them by themself

And from the lore, she feel pride and glory even she know she is dying

It only changed when she saw other finches died

Ya so she must believe that only the chief release their flare?

[hot plinth]

No you misunderstand

She thought she was doing a great deed ot was thier mission

She was kike holy shit this is so cool we are going to get tubluar glory and praise by saving espira as the firnace gathered all of them to the elemental alter

But maybe your right missed that part she released her flare to start the firnace

And then she started dying

Andcthe furnace started sicking out everyone else flare and they all died immediatley and she basically cursed the gods

Didnt wanna die

And made a deal for immortality

[bold bone]

Ya and it writes there: she didnt lament her dying, she feels glory and pride, she.know she gonna die and is fine with it

[hot plinth]

Yes at first

Then she saw everyone else dying around her

And shes like wtf

What glory is this shit

She thought she was going to only die

[proper jasper]

Maetria's inn quote

[hot plinth]

So...

Im so confused right now

But uhm

Do you think its a misunderstanding on my part?

[proper jasper]

Was there anything after that part? Maybe it'll be revealed in the following comic?

[hot plinth]

Nope she hasnt said a word...

[proper jasper]

No I mean was there anything after that part in the vow

[hot plinth]

No after linda said what she said that was it

[proper jasper]

Weird. Could be we'll get more info in the comic

[hot plinth]

Ill dbl chk rq

Incase i can talk to anyone

I moving talene around but no dialogue from anyone

[proper jasper]

Lol??

[hot plinth]

What happens at the end you ride the carriage into the alter then control talene

So idk

[proper jasper]

Well looks like belinda is indeed right

[hot plinth]

Well im trying to get her to tell me its been like 12 hrs

[proper jasper]

I suppose she can't say anything more, or have said all there is to say. Let's just wait for the comic

[hot plinth]

I mean it doesnt confirm either if you retesd the linda dialogue as well

But as you said about finch and elemental imbalance

[quasi wedge]

"doesn't gone"

[runic wren]

Hello guys.. How old is Flora? Is it safe to simp for her?

[dawn helm]

you're asking the real questions here

no but iirc i real in an old post that she's a teen

[runic wren]

🥹

[dawn helm]

i read in an old post*

[runic wren]

teen you mean like 200 years old elf right 🥹

[dawn helm]

teen-thousands of years lmao

[weak gazelle]

@sturdy forge tell them

[dawn helm]

yess pls im to lazy to go search

[hot plinth]

People simp for astar so

[hot plinth]

Ya why im confused lol

[runic wren]

i see. "looks" huh?

[dawn helm]

oh no

[dawn helm]

you're on thin ice

[runic wren]

[hot plinth]

Depends when she was created lol

Esperia is 10s of 1000s years old

Sounds like shes been around since the beginning

Her and alna fought for natur control

Like not actually fight but alna froze everything flora brought the spring lol

[quasi wedge]

i've never heard of flora being mentioned as looking young

she's short but not particularly child-like

[hot plinth]

I mean she looks young like 13 14 15

[quasi wedge]

how?

she just looks short

short people exist irl

[hot plinth]

Flatter then a pancake her chold like spirit and ahes the embodiment of rebirth

[quasi wedge]

do you go around calling short women irl children?

or flat-chested women?

[hot plinth]

Well lets be real

When lulith makes women

They give them gagonazoids

[quasi wedge]

lilith has made several children-themed events or banners, and none ever featured flora

[hot plinth]

Show me one flat chested woman in game

Ill wait

[quasi wedge]

flora

[hot plinth]

Floras a child

[quasi wedge]

and anyway

[hot plinth]

Well teen

[quasi wedge]

it's fucking weird determining whether someone's adult by their body type

[hot plinth]

Hey blame lilith

[quasi wedge]

no

you're the one being weird

[hot plinth]

No im not lol its not lik we have a data book of ages you are j7st fucking assuming

[dawn helm]

we're not really calling her a child, but more like a teenager or young adult

[hot plinth]

The best way to determine age in afk arena id by body shape and size

[quasi wedge]

says the person who judges adulthood by chest size

satrana was freaking 15 before they retconned it

[hot plinth]

We dont have a daya book saying hey dumb bitch a is x old

[eternal sierra]

[dawn helm]

and it's not serious, in her bio it says that she looks, so it's not confirmed
maybe she really is an adult, but her looks make her younger

no need to get mad over this

[quasi wedge]

this is the same as the people who look at anime characters and think they all look like children cause they can't accept different art styles

[dawn helm]

people do have different shapes and bodytipes

and baby faces

lol

[hot plinth]

Im good hes the one clowning he cant accept the things that determine thing in esperia and uses real life to determine fiction 🤡

[quasi wedge]

"women must be big chested or they're children, but other people are clowns"

ok bruh

you're the weirdo that insists flora looks like a child cause she doesn't have your ideal bodytype

despite nothing about her particularly pointing towards child-like

[hot plinth]

He wants to argue art style when i litteral just said liliths art style determines that lol

Fucking clown 🤡

[dawn helm]

okay wait!!

how about kaz

[hot plinth]

Kaz like khazard?

[quasi wedge]

goddamn pedos sees children everywhere i guess

[dawn helm]

the wilder black cat im sorry ehat was her name

[hot plinth]

Oh kaz kitty my bad forget about her

[eternal sierra]

Kaz is right

[hot plinth]

No age

[dawn helm]

these are serious accusations hey

[hot plinth]

Now hes calling me a pedo ok thats line drawn

[quasi wedge]

i mean, why else are they being so fucking weird insisting flora looks like a child for no reason

[dawn helm]

fish i get your point of view, but still

[fallen trellis]

Me knowing that Solise is 5 years older than me and that I'm 19:

[quasi wedge]

cause it fits their narrative

[dawn helm]

ok i just saw shibaki as being pretty convinced in their idea since the info was written in the bio

[hot plinth]

Cause wiki saud she is and you fucking moron i never said i liked her now fuck off you clown

[dawn helm]

so they were just being confident because it was there

[quasi wedge]

it's not even an official site

wikis are written by fans

[runic wren]

well... i didn't know there is no direct answer about her age in the lore. Can we move on

[quasi wedge]

probably written by another weirdo

or maybe himself

[dawn helm]

yes but yk the dolly info they share in the community? where we get the sneak peaks of new upcomings heroes and then a page dedicated to comic and bio of a certain character? i read the same info there

[dawn helm]

that's why i said this

[quasi wedge]

she's in the game long enough and she's never been mentioned in the underage group alongside satrana rosaline etc but ok whatever

[dawn helm]

so basically shinbaki confirmed my memories

[quasi wedge]

and anyway i said she looks like an adult, i didn't even say she has to be

shinbaki is the one insisting she has to look like a child because no boobs

[hot plinth]

A just went off wiki b calling me a pedo for 0 reason astars a chold twins are a chold peggys a child am i pedo for saying that you fucking clown

[dawn helm]

mmm i see, maybe bc she's a celestial, so like,, a god?? idk guys it's time i should come clean: i don't know that much about the base of the lore

[hot plinth]

Celestials arent gods

[dawn helm]

ok thanks

[hot plinth]

They are angels or dieties if anything

Only gods are dura anninh and a few others

[dawn helm]

ohh that's what i meant i think then

ye ik about dura and annih

[dawn helm]

yes yes ty

[quasi wedge]

maybe don't call flat-chested people children then

[dawn helm]

i didnt?? :((

[quasi wedge]

not u

[hot plinth]

Didn't what

[quasi wedge]

whatever, i'm done talking to people that can only accept one body type for women

[eternal sierra]

i'm js saying gwenyth and rosaline are both children and by your argument flora looks awfully similar to them body type/facial structure wise

[quasi wedge]

rosaline is a child

gwyn is not

[hot plinth]

Peggy was in a forced arranged marriage dont see your ass up in arms boycotting lilith so ahut up clown

[eternal sierra]

she is 16 canonically, thats a child

[quasi wedge]

ok i guess she is then

[dawn helm]

yes and literally sending them on a battlefield like i get it's a game but damn😭

[quasi wedge]

even by shinbaki's standard she "looks" even less like a child anyway

making that art-style judgement even less reliable

[dawn helm]

mm they never meant it as a goo goo gaga baby, more like as a "hey, she looks like a minor so be careful" bc someone was asking before simping

[last goblet]

Probably best to avoid calling people pedophiles or resorting to personal attacks. that's a rather serious accusation that clearly nobody is going to respond well to when they're just trying to discuss a question that was asked

If you can't do that, then best to end the conversation

[quasi wedge]

well, i blocked already so conversation with that particularly person ended

[hot plinth]

The clown dont comprehend that as i said ive seen people somping over astar cause they think shes a cherub

[eternal sierra]

agreed

[dawn quest]

Y'all wildin in here.

[eternal sierra]

[dawn helm]

moment

[dawn quest]

🫦

You know it.

[dawn helm]

me when

[hot plinth]

Lol was about to ask wtf is raveborn

[quasi wedge]

it's just annoying when people take usually asian art-styles, anime/japanese or non-anime, and infantize every female character because not every character is drawn with full curvy body types

[hot plinth]

But -g

[dawn quest]

[dawn helm]

rave time

[dawn quest]

Unce unce unce

[dawn helm]

ahh i get it

[hot plinth]

Never said that but ok all i said was lilithw art style but he gets all up in a tantrum before i could way shes 1000s of years pld and prilly ok even if ahe looks child like but hey once a 🤡 always a 🤡

But hey lets be ok with child marriage arrangements rofl

[dawn helm]

I've been thinking this for a while but how about a clown/jester hero? no?? anyone? ok it's just me then, I'll do it myself

[dawn quest]

[dawn quest]

Mortas.

[hot plinth]

Thats mortas

Lol @dawn quest

[dawn helm]

hmm

[dawn quest]

[hot plinth]

Also

So

Fish can take the biggest fucking dick and choke on it and die at this point when thats from liliths fucking mouth

Id expevt an apology but we both know that aint happening

[dawn quest]

Wah.

[hot plinth]

Wanna call me a pedo you can go off yourself

Not you rave

[dawn quest]

You're really pressed about the opinion of a moron, though.

[hot plinth]

An opinion is him calling me weird

Caliing somone a pedo is like calling somone a n word

[dawn quest]

I... Think there's a mild difference there... But I see what you're getting at.

[hot plinth]

There is what i mean is its just as serious lol

[lament meadow]

oh jesus christ what is happening in here

[hot plinth]

Specially if you are falsely accused

[dawn helm]

yay that's the image!! I'm not crazyyy

[hot plinth]

No sir you arent i was trying to find it too lol

Or mam sorry lol

But hey im the pedo memeber

[dawn quest]

[hot plinth]

Funny enough they sourced it on wiki where the weirdos are at

[lament meadow]

im just gonna say this: "not all flat-chested women are meant to be underage" and "the design of grown women should not be so ambiguous as to confuse people" are thoughts that can and should coexist

[hot plinth]

I didnt say that holy shit thats the problem lol

I said in liliths are flat chests generally mean child

And shes not even flat chested either lol

[dawn helm]

of course, and i know shinbaki believes that too, but that wasn't the case here

[hot plinth]

Her haloween skin proves that

[dawn helm]

makes sense since should be the real deal

[dawn helm]

truee i forgor about that

[lament meadow]

listen man im not trying to piss anyone off im on your side

[hot plinth]

I know

Like i get flat chested women i didnt say all flat chested short women are children

Said in liliths art in generally means that and i get called a pedo

[dawn helm]

yh words have weight

i want to believe that fish really didn't mean to use it that way, but man that was uncalled for

[hot plinth]

Oh forgot to show the source lol

They have a 1 next to her age the scrolls down to liliths words not wikis

[lament meadow]

honestly people like satrana qualify as children/minors in this world. its genuinely hard to tell whos a minor just by looking at them sometimes but i dont blame people for being confused

[hot plinth]

Thats very true and satrana has a big chest. I wasnt trying to come off weird i was trying to justify liliths art and how they portray thier characters. Cayse they dint have a data page for all heroes most of the time its a guess.

[coral trench]

damn a lot happened here

[dawn quest]

Mmmmhm.

[sturdy forge]

Fuck off

[sturdy forge]

Stfu

[weak gazelle]

Rude

[ruby gazelle]

stfu

[sturdy forge]

Rude

[runic wren]

stfu

[ruby gazelle]

ty

i tried

[weak gazelle]

Flora sücks

[viral pond]

Ouch what's ur deal
I mean we all have our different opinions
But ouch
By the way, That "what's ur deal" question was rhetorical
Dotn answer it

And why is everyone talking about Flora
The current plot isnt even about her

I love talking about Flora and how good she is in my opinion
But right now should we be talking about the Maetria and the elemental strife?

Like what the heck happened?
Who died?
I heard someone died
Please dont tell me one of the gaurdians or Talene died

[austere tusk]

🤐

[viral pond]

Right
No spoilers
Got it

But aw man
I was afraid this might occur

I hope no one dies
Tho with how thigns are going
My worst ngihtmares will come true

[dawn quest]

Spoilers: ||Edwin dies.||

[dark heath]

Hey does any1 know if the new Gift needs a required Level?

[viral pond]

Isnt he already dead and came back as a graveborn character
The Usurper?

[dawn quest]

T'was the joke.

[thorn ridge]

She's annoying

[viral pond]

Oh
Sorry

[viral pond]

Huh?
How so?

What's annoying about Flora

On second thought
Forget I asked
I dont wanna add fuel to the fire
We all have our own opinions

[dawn quest]

Her invincibility until the last man is dead.

+-+

[viral pond]

I dont wanna make things worse

[dawn quest]

Naw, just from a gameplay perspective she's kinda annoying to fight against.

That's a universally agreed upon thing for anyone who's in like chapter 40+, lol.

[viral pond]

Really?
I never had that problem before when i fought her

[viral pond]

I see

[dawn quest]

What'syourcomp?

Lol

[viral pond]

Wow
Shoot dang

[thorn ridge]

She's a pain in campaign

[viral pond]

I see

I dont mind
But if that's how you feel
I can udnerstand

I had some difficulties as well

[hot plinth]

My anaser was off wiki which cited lilith and i got callrd a pedo for stafing a fact

Says it litterally right there lol

Thats what happened

There was no opinion all fact

So stop saying everyone has an opinion

[viral pond]

Roger that
Sorry

[hot plinth]

Its fine my guy

[viral pond]

Oh Ok cool

[sturdy forge]

Cope

[hot plinth]

Agree cope

[proper jasper]

Talene's bard tales quote

[hot plinth]

Interesting

I love how they lk shaded maetria insulting not only talene but the reader

Im trying to find the screen shot but basically.said still cant believe you hadn't realised

Ill have to replay the ending of the in game event i think i didnt grab the SS

But i also believe its in thr comic

[bold bone]

Just watched the bastons beckon video, there talene win vs maetria and solve the elemental imbalance

This video

[sturdy ridge]

So I finished reading Zolrath's book
Is Esperia pretty much doomed in the end, even now?
Zolrath isn't bound by the constraints of time, it has stated in his book that he has already snuffed out the existences of many great people before they were born and that he can already see that the future is sad and overrun with demons just like he wants it to be.
I'm not sure if there is a time-traveling Celestial that was specifically created to stop him, but if not, doesn't that mean that Esperia is doomed even as we play through it now?

I haven't looked at all the Celestials so there could be a celestial to balance Zolrath out and I just don't know who they are

[proper jasper]

While he wasn't created to stop Zolrath, Orthros is that Celestial lol. These days they're pretty much locked in a constant skirmish of time

[languid panther]

The fucks kadezh doing in lore

@weak gazelle were you sniffing around here for me

Orthos predates zolrath by a looong time

Omfg typo

[sturdy ridge]

Whew, glad to know Zolrath isn't beyond being stopped

[languid panther]

After failing to save dura, orthos went into a dormant state and now came out of it basically to do the one thing he does now which is beat zols ass

[proper jasper]

There's more on their cat-mouse chase in their union story, also some details in temporal rift stating that it was created due to them constantly breaking and mending time

[sturdy ridge]

I wonder if we'll ever get to meet Ansiel, the creator of Orthros

We did eventually get Edwin after all

Ansiel isn't too out of the realm of possibility

[languid panther]

Pretty sure ansiel died right

[proper jasper]

I hope we get a visual of him at least, but I'm also scared I'd be disappointed akdhsjd

No Ansiel is cool

[languid panther]

Or not

I vaguely remember that era of the timeline

[proper jasper]

It's- uuuuh suddenly I don't remember his name- ANCELOT

He died

[languid panther]

Yep

[proper jasper]

Their names are so similar akdjsj

[languid panther]

Lilith strikes again

[sturdy ridge]

I don't think it states what Ansiel's fate was

He could just be chillin somewhere in time and space just watching everything burn around him lol

[proper jasper]

He should've become a celestial like all the others when the gate breached, but apart from that it's

I love Ansiel he's so chill

[sturdy ridge]

Ansiel is the definition of no fucks given
He just built a clock that the goddess Dura herself was so impressed by that she named it and then he just straight up disappeared from the rest of history

[proper jasper]

I guess it depends on when the temporal rift is created, because he is mentioned there

Despite popping up all over the place we know very little about him

[sturdy ridge]

He's just there

[proper jasper]

Lol he is

Just chilling

[sturdy ridge]

Just watches everything unfold in a little lawn chair with a pair of sunglasses

[proper jasper]

Every now and then plucks a mortal up and gives them a cool mecha body

[sturdy ridge]

I find it ironic that Athalia hated mortals when she herself was once one as well
Hypocrite

[proper jasper]

That's only true for the english translation. In the original cn lore she was a divine weapon that was given life by Dura

[sturdy ridge]

Ah

Maetria is certainly interesting

[proper jasper]

She is! I like her a lot

[sturdy ridge]

Makes me wonder if Talene could have ended up as a hypogean like Maetria did, seeing as how characters like Maetria and Lucretia became hypogeans because they were overcome by despair in their weakest moments

Maetria is Talene on Dark Mode

[proper jasper]

Nfbsjdhajd

Perhaps? It'd be interesting to see "hypo aus" for non-hypo characters lol

[sturdy ridge]

Haelus becomes a hypogean when the celestials ignore his father's pleas and the hypogeans answer instead
They promise to cure his illness if his family gives him up to the darkness as a new instrument of chaos and torment

Like how the hypogeans promised to help Lucretia's son

[proper jasper]

Ooooooooh

[coral zodiac]

👀

[hot plinth]

Sorta i can spoil the ending for you if you want

Prolly better to dm that though

[hot plinth]

See i thought that could make a good awakened story

Sorta like alternate reality time line situations

[bold bone]

Very kind from you mate, but i gonna wait the vow, its more interesting to reveal that step by step

[hot plinth]

Ok no worries

Vow dont explain alot but it gives and idea

[cunning lintel]

Wait, so the elemental strife is just done? The beat Maetria and that's it? I would assume we'll get more awakened but what's the lore explanation? There is an odd number of awakened heroes according to the factions.

[hot plinth]

Its not thay simple lol

Yes we beat maetria but if i explained the ending it would spoil it

Awakened will continue but maetria finished this saga

So next awakened will be a new story

@proper jasper CAN I JUST SAY IT BRO LOL

Wait i can link the spoiler wall one sec

@cunning lintel if i do dont talk about it ok?

#afk-lore message

Just read down from there

[cunning lintel]

Huh, interesting but for a "finale" this doesn't feel like it's got as much pomp and circumstance as other awakened, it may be just me, seeing as Maetria is a new character ||not counting the scholar as she's relatively unknown for people who don't follow the lore||

[hot plinth]

Well thats where the comic comes in

At least we are hoping

Maetria isnt a new character though and you dont habe to spoil wall it lol

Everyone knows wilder historian nerd lady was a disguise for maetria

Though

I forget her old name...she may of acctually been real at one point and maeteia may of killed her off to disguise as her.... @proper jasper can tell you her old name before.maetria

[viral pond]

Um ive been reading all this and is it true to what happened to Talene?

[viral pond]

I hope its not true
i dont want talene to die

Astar would be sad

[hot plinth]

Hmmn

Hate this cryptic bs

Linda is killing me right now

@viral pond isk now my guy bit dont acctually discuss yet please and look at those

@proper jasper

[viral pond]

@hot plinth THANK YOU SO MUCH!!
You just light a new spark of hope in my heart
Now I can sleep easily
Thanx goodness
There really is still hope

Spring is just starting
And it will soon go to full bloom
And that means so does hope as well

[viral pond]

Got it thanx

I have truly been blessed by the goddess of spring

[hot plinth]

Well sunny is saving the day right now

[viral pond]

Oh yeah totally

Although it's dark outside where I am

Funny thing about that
I was doing stuff in AFK Arena while listening to some much upbeat music's
And I was working with a certain celestial who practically represents spring
And maybe some sort of musical montage with her in the game

She's one of my favorites

[hot plinth]

No i mean sunny in discord

[viral pond]

Oh I see

[hot plinth]

Lol

[viral pond]

Nevermind

Forget I said anything

Plz ignore all that

[hot plinth]

Bro you vibin no stress

[viral pond]

But yeah it is sunny in here

Oh

I see

There was literally a person named Sunny in here

[hot plinth]

@grand geyser the GOAT

[viral pond]

I feel so stupid right now

If my friends were here
They'd be laughing at me right now

[hot plinth]

Bro you good they dont talk a whole lot but sunny pops in here sometimes and if you dm h er and give her time she will hel0 just dont be like pinging em 50 times

[viral pond]

I see

[viral pond]

I see
Cool
Thanz

But man I feel very dumb

Twice

[hot plinth]

Dont man you are legit fine

[viral pond]

Oh ok
Cool
Thanx

[hot plinth]

Hey it feels sunny up here knowing you know lol its a good day!

When i originally said sunny it coulda meant anything lol

[viral pond]

Yeah it is
I'm not even sure what you're even trying to say
But yeah

[viral pond]

Yeah

[hot plinth]

Sunny days are good days to me

[viral pond]

I was thinking about my goddess of spring who somehow blessed me with hope

[hot plinth]

Sunny days are happy

[viral pond]

Yeah
Sunny days are great

[hot plinth]

And knowing what i thought about talene is just a translation error its a good hapy sunny day lol

[viral pond]

Yep
It truly is a good happy sunny day

And I owe it all to you and my goddess
Both of you

You both have my sincerest gratitude

So yeah
Super happy

Thanx @hot plinth

[hot plinth]

Np buddy

[viral pond]

Cool
Now Im gonna sleep
4 hours past my bedtime
I can rest easy now
Cya Shinbaki#0666
Talk to you tomorrow

[hot plinth]

Lol night

[proper jasper]

English name used to be Talia. Chinese name was the same all along, so she only has two different names in english

[hot plinth]

Talia thats it!

[proper jasper]

So the correct translation will be up for the global vow then? I hope it's the case

[hot plinth]

yes

that what Sunny said it was being fixed

[tribal elbow]

Woah, Maetria's theme is incredible

kinda sad i'd have never heard it if i didnt unmute the game

[proper jasper]

Yeah it is!

[hot plinth]

Yup thr music is amazing idc what anyone says

[grand geyser]

Yeaa i mean that

Good night everyone. Have a sunny day

[hot plinth]

Nini sunny

[hot plinth]

Def make sure to not fully mute everyrhing i know some of thr music can get repetitive but def alot people miss out on when they fully mute the game

[tribal elbow]

yeaaah, i wish there was a way we could listen to the tracks on their own

[hot plinth]

Right...let me suggest that for you

Mayne they can put all.thier tracks or individual ones on Youtube

[bold bone]

So now the elemental imbalance is solved and that act close right? Do we have a clue what the next awak serie is about?

[rich sparrow]

Wait where is it

Is it the one that plays when we open the thing where all the videos and stuff about her in the game?

[bold bone]

Yes

[proper jasper]

Nothing as of yet

At least as far as I'm aware

[bold bone]

Thank you!

[proper jasper]

Np

[hot plinth]

We have an idea no actual evidence. maetria dies and something happens

[rich sparrow]

Alr

[hot plinth]

The in game music and thier music videos thry put on yourube

[bold bone]

She dies😭 no thats sad

[hot plinth]

As embla said no idea on next sp just its a new story

[hot plinth]

We kill her 7 times in the vow

So

[bold bone]

Can she die as a hypo? I mean forever?

[hot plinth]

Possibly, probably not though, the hypo will prolly escape and the host dies

[bold bone]

Ah

Dam thats sad i like her, her story, her design, all amazing

But yeah in the end, the right must win, so its

[hot plinth]

Well shes the ultimate bad

[bold bone]

Would be nice if she can revive her clan, and sacrifice herself

[hot plinth]

The problem is obsidian finches have rto die for the imbalance to end

The furnace needs to break and everything part of it needs to cease

[bold bone]

Yes but they found a solution with talene too right? Talene is living

[hot plinth]

As long as there are obsidian finches in the world the elemental inbalance will continue plaguing the world

Lol we will see no spoilers :😜

The vow is a huge cliff hanger

And the comics will fill in the blank

Maybe talene will die maybe she wont

[bold bone]

[hot plinth]

I got the answwers but i want everyone to experiwnce the cliff hanger

[bold bone]

Yes its only 3h longer than its the vow

[hot plinth]

Allmi will say is they said this in the vow and comic
"As long as there are obsidian finches in the world the elemental inbalance will continue plaguing the world"

[bold bone]

Ya so maetria is right, they was born to fix that issue with the elements

From the beginning there is a death sentence for all of them

[hot plinth]

Yes they are born live and die to stop the imbalance

[bold bone]

No matter what happen

[hot plinth]

Basically the leader activates the furnace and the rest of the finches solaran spark is ripped from thier bodies and they turn into ash and die

Once the balance is restored new obsidian finches are born

[bold bone]

Oh so new finches coming?

[hot plinth]

Cant say

Enjoy the vow

[bold bone]

That ll be a good new, for maetria atleast

Maybe that was her intention from the beginning to lost to talene and die so new finches canbe born

[hot plinth]

You are missing what i said earlier

#afk-lore message

[bold bone]

Ya i understand, just me dont want to realize she has died, after all that what she gone through, and cant change anything

Its just me fantasize a bit😭 😂

[hot plinth]

Lol now you know how i felt haha

Just make sure to do vow and read the comics

[bold bone]

🫂 👍

[hot plinth]

Ask @proper jasper about my emotional rollar coaster after experiencing vow my buddy was there for me

[bold bone]

Have they finish the comic? Or its ongoing?

[hot plinth]

Nope 1 a week going into next month 6 more i think

Maybe 5

[bold bone]

Gotcha, thank you

[hot plinth]

They are all pretty lengthy so im sure this upcomming week will summarise the fight week after that the ending of the fight and the week after that the conclusion and the ones after are peolly everyone returning home cleaning up the mess and helping all those inflicted and see if they keep the runes or not

[bold bone]

👍

Hm now thats interesting... If they dont keep the emblems, the runes can have new owner/protector

Thats a whole new awak cycle

But thats a bit cheap that way 😂

[hot plinth]

We.will see

Idk everything just have a good idea

[bold bone]

Nah you are cool, i like to read through the conversations here, you guys talking a lot lore stuffs, and i like it

[hot plinth]

well i do get excited and spoil some things and embla helping me lol being like shud up bro let em play it to and read XD

[languid panther]

Update schedule

[viral pond]

Thats handy

[bold bone]

Thanks

[bold bone]

Just finish the vow, and there is nothing about finches existence vs elemental imbalance? Its from the comic?

[hot plinth]

As i said 5

[hot plinth]

Pretty sure the did you read everything

Moght been in the comic

[bold bone]

Ya i read everything from vow, will get to the comic when i have time, proabably next week, thank you

[hot plinth]

So since you did vow

You get a suprise

This was the original lindalogue on test server.

I was told it changed now

Im playing to the end to confirm

There it is the lo shade from maetria lol

[bold bone]

Yes it changed, in a open end

We dont know what happend to talene

[hot plinth]

So yes

Original vs new text

I didnt have the luxury of nee text even though its still just as bad

You see the words sacrafice tf you think its gonna mean lol

And the added fact there is no more diologue after linda says that

Luckily i had fb belinda and sunny to help explain the most ill say is as you see its a mistranslation. And we will have to see what happens in the comics so enjoy your cliffhanger

[bold bone]

👍

I think they both are alive, its weird if we have heroes ingame who has died in the lore imo, or do we have any hero ingame who is no more alive lore wise?

[austere tusk]

graveborns 🙂

[bold bone]

😂

Their gb form exiist

Ya i think alive is the wrong word here

Existence maybe

[hot plinth]

no no shes ded

[viral pond]

I agree
Playing a character in game who is supposedly dead would be weird

For my prayer to my goddess of spring
Let us hope
That Talene is well

[austere tusk]

I think it's cool if a character dies in the lore

it just kinda sucks cause then there would never be story for that character again unless you wanna show off their past or something

[viral pond]

I see

I makes me wonder about that dream Talene if the next story will involve that dream that had Tasi calling for her and Ezizh witnessing

Dammit autocorrection

Hang on

[viral pond]

@austere tusk sorry about that
I was gonna say
What you said was ingenius

I typed too fast and got auto corrected

[austere tusk]

lol all good

[viral pond]

My phone for some reason thought I was calling g you idiot when I was tetkgn to say I ingenius

Dammit

[austere tusk]

[viral pond]

I was trying to say ingenius

[viral pond]

Also what does that mean?

[austere tusk]

its a laughing emote

[viral pond]

Ah

One of these days I'm gonna smash my phoen and get a new one

[viral pond]

Ok I see it
It does look like she's laughing

[viral pond]

Thanx for the scre3nshot
Saves us all a lot of trouble

[bold bone]

Only from the vow i dont see that, cant say for the comis though because i havent read it

[hot plinth]

Maetria is ded

Is wat i meant

Talene is a surprise

[viral pond]

I see

[viral pond]

And now I'm surprised

[viral pond]

Shoot dang

[hot plinth]

That video gives the biggest clue to maetria and added to the fact you fight her 7 times in vow

[viral pond]

Is it possible that I really truly have just received a blessing from the goddess of spring?

[viral pond]

I see
Thanx for the info

[hot plinth]

Let me show you all the reason why maetrias dead well 3

Black feather floated down like ciders....not divine feathers from talene...just black feathers

The hypos evil had been purified...

Also notice that maetrias eyes are closed and she looks like shes on the ground ded with talene towering over her

[dark heath]

My dumbass finally realizing who Maetria is and why her name seemed so familiar to me

[hot plinth]

Her name was talia

[dark heath]

Was it?

[hot plinth]

Ya its still talia in cn but her hypo form is maetria

[dark heath]

Ah I see

[hot plinth]

I think they did it in en vers to be like hey this bitch isnt who she saud she was this whole time

Cause talene and the others never refrence maetria by name

But maetria always said talenes name

And in vow and in comic talene asks who she really is

[viral pond]

Dang

Didn't see that coming

[slow nest]

Hey hey

I just played maestrias story..

Wow. Last time someone told me she was a let down

Oh how right the person was

All the build up

We knew it was her disguised

To then, just.. after telling talene what happened

Talene kinda listens

Then proceeds to just do the same that she was warned

And, maestria just gets one shot

Make her more uh, story moments. Not good on just having her just defeated.

Would make an interesting story.

Talene was left in a plot twist if she died

I'm guessing Zoma will come up and deuz ex machina, saving talene

[hot plinth]

idk why everyone puts so much emphasis on vows lol just read the comic

[viral pond]

I think it mgiht because some people might be anxious and imaptient
Myself included

[bold bone]

I like the to read, but i think many players want a gaming exprience? But yeah lilith cant be right to everyone, when the vow is to big, and you have lot of stuffs to do, ppl complain, when its small its a let down

[west osprey]

i mean i do appreciate putting the budget in for a comic

it is mainly an idle game

but i guess it’s to satisfy the people who want deeper story content and are willing to dig deeper to get it without putting in game rewards behind it to make it a nuisance for those who want to grind

[hot plinth]

But all voes have been minimalistic lore...and people seem to think whelp thats it.

[hot plinth]

They het lore lol a litteral minimilistic version of it...you cantcsee a whole battle of what happened that would take a full over haul....same thing with more endung though they could add more dialogue to vow at least

But I think they wanted to hype comic more

[nova widget]

Honestly, a comic like that probably isn't that expensive to make if you're doing it through an independent contractor. A lot of even big comic artists for webtoon/etc barely make like, minimum wage for their country so making the comic was probably pretty cheap for them comparatively.

[hot plinth]

Nope its thier art team doing yhe comics

Its all lilith

[nova widget]

Ah, I see - good for the artists then.

[rustic copper]

https://vk.com/video-204150834_456239346?list=42757e6632764bb5eb i like it

[hot plinth]

Oh ya that music is fire

Thats what @tribal elbow was talking bout

I believe its on youtube but more of thier music needs to be put up on youtube

[sand canopy]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ga-94o3YqO4

[hot plinth]

Oh now that skull makes.sense...

[bold bone]

🥰

[gentle badger]

I have trouble getting her but I got talene

[rich sparrow]

I am ngl

The gods of esperia suck

It feels very easy to become a hypogean hybrid for some reason

[rustic copper]

By the way, here's what I thought. Maetria wants to use Talena to revive the genus of Obsidian finches...
but what if it's quite the opposite, and their genus itself exists for Talena? that is, they all have to die in order for the phoenix to be born-the strongest of the finches, which talena became

[hot plinth]

They for sure are most gods in vidja games are very imperfect they think thier actions are righteous but in the end backfire

[hot plinth]

Well its no easy per say

You ever watch the show supernatural?

[hot plinth]

Yes thats already been told she wants to sacrafice her op spark to the furnace to revive her clan killing talene un the process and not ending the elemental imbalance

[hot plinth]

Maetria doesnt care about power she once upon a time was willing to sacrafice her self for the elemental imbalance all she wants is her friends and family back destroy the furnace and let the elemental imbalance continue to rampage regardless of the consequences

[rustic copper]

What are you talking about?

[hot plinth]

What are you not understanding

She made a deal with a hypo for immortality not power

[rich sparrow]

No

Btw

A few months ago I asked something about a Celestial becoming a hypo

[hot plinth]

She wants to revive her clutch by sacrafuce talenes spark to the furnace reviving everyone who died to the furnace

[rich sparrow]

Fast forward we got Maetria

[hot plinth]

[rich sparrow]

Here

[hot plinth]

Obsidian finches arent celestials lol

[rich sparrow]

They arent???

[rustic copper]

uh, absolutely everything. the answer does not in any way relate to the topic of the question. it's like you just made a mistake with the ping.

[hot plinth]

The only obsidian finch to be celestial is talene becaus of her evolution to ascend to the heavens

Obsidian finches aee just birds

Fire birds but just regular old birds

They can easily die

Just like any other mortal being

Hence talenes mom getting the ace treatment by a fire man

Talene was a regular bird too

Till

At that point she gained immortality and ascended to a celestial

Maetria was a regular bird

Til

She made a deal with a demon or hypo

And became a hypo

And evovled

[hot plinth]

Oh misunderstood but no maetria wants to off talene not make her stronger

She dont give a fuck about talene or esperia

And talene cant get any stronger as she pretty much has all the sparks of every obsidian finch

@rich sparrow

#afk-lore message

[rich sparrow]

Ah alright

[hot plinth]

As for the show supernatural demons typically have to make deals or get permission from hosts to enter them similar to what wevsee in game

Leofric made a deal maetria as well

Lucretia said fuck it have my body

[rustic copper]

you don't get in at all. who are you talking to anyway?

[hot plinth]

You so explain yourself then you aint making sense ive tried to interrupt what you said 4 times now lol

Cause wtf is a genus

Let me break it down specially that laat setence....no...they dont die to make anyone the strongest

Every finch at the solaran funace dies for 1 purpose to stop the rampaging elements destroying esperia the end no othe reason.

[rustic copper]

what did you try, you didn't read my comment at all. Maetria wants to revive the finches with Talena's help.
but what if the finches themselves, in all generations, originally existed only for the sake of Talena being born as a deity? and the existence of talena is the end point of the path for this kind.

[hot plinth]

No

Lol no

Talene maetria and all finches exist to die

To fix a gods cruel joke

Thats it

If talenes mom and rest of the obsidian finches didnt get destroyed by framton theyd all die too

Once the current elemental instability happened

[rustic copper]

and how does this contradict the fact that they exist for talena?

[hot plinth]

They dont

Talene only evolved by chance

Its litterally a chance if she hadnt flew to a solaran furnace carrying her mom and fell into a gorge shed just be a regular bird

She absorbed the solaran sparks as ahe was falling whoch is depicted by spirits

Fuck you bot lol

Talene futhur evolved by being killed by framton astar giving up her solarn fire to talene and all the sparks empowering her even furthur

Well its argued if ahe died i feel like she did but having immortality she was dead for a bit till rebirth

Loke in game

[gray sparrow]

I just read Mortas's lore. Who is the Hypogean who granted power to Mortas ?

[proper jasper]

Afaik they don't appear anywhere else, so no idea

[hot plinth]

Im gonna go on a limb and say thay demons name is 财神爷

[hot plinth]

English would be Mammon

But translation of the cn would be god of wealth

[hot plinth]

Ill ask linda though

And i still want the fire elemental as a hero

[slow nest]

O:0

Okay so

Aaaaaaah did talene died now in the story?

Left us in a cliff hanger. So the Phoenix's only exist to die..

To soma God of creation

I mean, I understand maestria. She has every right to be. But yeah leaving esperia to burn is bad too

So is good or bad she did what she did?

[hot plinth]

gotta wait XD

Embla and I know

but yall gotta wait or look where i posted it

[slow nest]

:0

[grand roost]

No one lives forever, she's trying to alter the cycles of nature, so I'd say bad

[agile tartan]

😨

[hot plinth]

haha i love the suspense

[bold bone]

Cycles of nature not include death of the whole clan

[grand roost]

apparently in that world it does, idk

it's pretty sad tho 😦

[hot plinth]

ROFL

Shes a scared baby

@proper jasper

LES GO RAGELENE

[bold bone]

[hot plinth]

Just various snippits

[viral pond]

I knew Solise could trapped them in giant water bubbles
Tho I was sort also expecting her to create a small flood that could them all and drown them all
Or make a bigger water bubble to drown them all at tyhe same time

[proper jasper]

Lol yeah I've seen it

[proper jasper]

Since the story of last year's anniversary event was part of the elemental strife timeline, I wonder if this year's anniversary events will be relevant too?

[viral pond]

So that's how far she can be able to drown her enemies
Was expecting some more water

[viral pond]

May the Goddess of Spring give us hope and blessing that at the end of this comic: We get a good ending
We can only hope for the best

Seriously tho
Part of me is for some reason scared of what ending we will get

I must be not right in the head

[proper jasper]

It's not a particularly complex story, so I think a general good ending is expected

[viral pond]

Ah ok
Got it
Thanx

[hot plinth]

We know it

[shut zodiac]

Hi, I need some help )

I missed Lost Grace event from last anniversary but I know it was Thane who took the appareal.

But was it somehow explained in game? I saw reddit post saying "Part of the reason Thane took it was because prince Lester agreed to give it to Estrilda if Thane could do it" - is it true?

[somber forum]

Does AE crab boss have any lore or cinematic in game ?

[proper jasper]

Yeah that's true, he originally didn't want to do it, but also agreed on it as a favor for his friend. I do have a transcript for the event if you'd like to read it for yourself

[proper jasper]

He has boss lore yeah, you can find his lore by clicking on the hanging scroll beside him

[somber forum]

i cant

i dont play arena now

[proper jasper]

I'll send it one sec

[somber forum]

so it basically a normal crab that eat too much dead bodies and then some necromance stuff happened and now it crave for more?

[sand canopy]

Brothers

[proper jasper]

I think it's more like the grudges, resentment and pain of the souls of the dead took hold of his body and slowly transformed him

[proper jasper]

[shut zodiac]

It's wonderful, thank you, I would be really grateful for these scripts ♥

[proper jasper]

Anytime!
https://docs.google.com/document/d/13ZJVbEOY_X_GcJK8VJHSG0_4ke_S-imin8F9_XQsIjo/edit

[shut zodiac]

[somber forum]

@proper jasper does AE have a new cinematic?

[proper jasper]

Not from what I've seen

[proper jasper]

Mae corner!

I really wish they'd stop translating it as Oakenfell

[proper jasper]

Nev skin let's goooooo

New hero

[bold bone]

Ppl saying thats saveas bro?

I dont recall anywhere in the lore telling saveas has a brother?

[proper jasper]

It's the first line in his story

[vale grove]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/441477431501783062/1088046521154551808/IMG_8174.png

[bold bone]

Gotcha thank you🙏

[hot plinth]

Ya thats lk annoying there was 0 infor of what type of hero from dolly lol

Mommy milkers will cost

Skregg will be free

[dawn helm]

of course qwq

but im also happy for new dolly stuff

she deserves it
even though lately she's been refusing to give me good summons

I'll always love her

[rustic copper]

where was the name of the western continent first mentioned?

[crystal tapir]

Skreggy

I was considering stopping playing after the... anticlimactic story arc... but I might stay on a bit longer since my fluffy rat boys are getting attention.

(Seriously, though, I'm still kind of pissed about how the elemental strife thing turned out. I do not like Maetria.)

[dawn helm]

why is she ourple

heh

[rustic copper]

Mmm, did Rigby ever think of marrying off his daughter?

[languid panther]

Ayo why she urple

[last goblet]

[slow nest]

Aaaa

[slow nest]

Yes

My thoughts are, did the Phoenix died canon wise?

Unless of course, there's some divine intervention that didn't allow talene to die

[languid panther]

Why did I get pinged

[proper jasper]

Ghost ping

[proper jasper]

So cute

[proper jasper]

I mean he did try to set her up with Rowan once

[languid panther]

Since it seems that the finches have to sacrifice themselves to return order to the world they might actually have killed her

Unless they killed maetria then that might count

Just gotta wait for new comics

[slow nest]

Waaa

Maetria didn't die when she was dying lmao

Hypo gave her a deal

It seems when you get corrupted by the hypo, you become something you wanted to the extreme

Maetria wanted to save her kind? She now will save her kind by letting esperia burn

[languid panther]

No, I mean in the most recent vow it's revealed that the way the elemental crises have been dealt with in the past is that the altar has to have finches sacrifice themselves to stop the calamity

Maetria wants to reverse this

If talene doesn't die but the elements are restored, then that means maetria would have to have been sacrificed

Also kinda puts them in a shitty spot for whenever the next elemental crisis happens but I guess don't think too hard about that

[proper jasper]

Not sure if it works by sacrificing Mae, as she doesn't have the solaris flare anymore

Just hypo fire

Then again the design notes were kinda weird about it, saying it had the power to bring her kin back

I haven't checked the cn version yet

I'm wondering about this, wish I could read chinese

If it's intent really is "her flame can be used to revive them" or if it's just a reference to her quote

[languid panther]

They're playing calvinball with how this shit works rn

[proper jasper]

Fr

[hot plinth]

Yaaa child marriage lol

@proper jasper you didnt tell dead rofl

[proper jasper]

What is there even to tell

Aside from the original mistranslation

We still don't know how it really ends, that's why we're waiting for the comics

[hot plinth]

We do know.loke the general.idea

We dont know thr nitty gritty

[rustic copper]

I don't think Talena is dead. All generations of finches have joined forces with Talena, reviving her as an immortal deity to save the world. but I don't think that saving the world means restoring the balance of the elements, no. this is something even more threatening, because otherwise they would have either merged a long time ago, or not merged with talena in principle. not to mention that they would have cursed fate for injustice, but after their death, realizing the futility of their sacrifice, like Maetria.
if the power of all the reels of the current generation is needed to restore the balance of the elements, then what is the power of the reels of ALL generations needed for?
It is also worth noting that astar plays an important role in the existence of talena. and no, not because she's her student, or just as a daughter. but because she is its keeper. In response to Talena's rebirth as an immortal phoenix, Astar was born. and although they were really far away, and Talena did not even know about her existence, this did not prevent Astar from finding her. she has to protect her from something, or prepare her for something, and the awakening of Talena, which was realized through the fusion of her fire and the fire of Astar, is only the first step. and the imbalance of the elements is not the goal, and not even the end of the path, but only an obstacle.