afk-lore

[proper jasper]

Oh right! 👀

[dark heath]

does tarnos not visit any other celehypo or just a specific one?

[vale grove]

He doesn't visit anyone

He doesn't move

When I put him in the hotel he just teleported to the room

[dark heath]

oh lol

do you think if tarnos was a pokémon trainer he’d use diglett

[proper jasper]

Nsfnhjsdsf

[dark heath]

[proper jasper]

I don't remember exactly, does other heroes visit him?

[vale grove]

Honestly I think I didn't watched it

so I'm not sure

[proper jasper]

[hot plinth]

@proper jasper am i crazy or did that staue change

[fluid temple]

That's definitely changed.

[hot plinth]

Why though

Ita more blue and purple and thebstar is shining more

[hot plinth]

Its just an art upgrade....lol according to linda

[dark heath]

why would a UI update correlate with a dolly hint

[proper jasper]

Lol I did a double take when I clicked on my crystal after the update, but I don't trust my memory so I wasn't sure if it really changed

Also nice Thane

[shut zodiac]

I am a bit new to the whole Arena lore, can you tell, who exactly did kill Baden? Where can I read all this info?

[proper jasper]

It's not clear who exactly dealt the finishing blow, but Baden died holding off Brutus and other Mauler soldiers while Thane and the others escaped. There's a bunch of different media depicting this scene so basically take your pick lol. Unless I'm missing some, you can see it in Baden and Thane's stories (chinese version is the accurate one), lore website/book year 1687, The Silent Blade (comic), Soul of the Knight (short) and Thane's awakening cinematic.

Then again his death was orchestrated by the Court of Terror, who wanted the Lightbearers and Maulers at war to weaken both factions, using Baden's death as a catalyst. So in a sense they're the true cause of his death.

[hot plinth]

Lol ty

[hot plinth]

I go in the crystal daily and if a subtle thing changes my mind will normally notice if

[hot plinth]

I thought it was 2 wilder soldiers that done did him in?

[hot plinth]

Very true but it was an extra win when that necromancer fo7nd badens corpse and got all excited cause he sensed rayne blood

[proper jasper]

Think that was a mistake and meant Mauler soldiers : p

Reason why I put it as unclear is because we also have Thane's awakening vid where it shows Brutus chopping him down, so there's mixed signals on this. In the end, Idk if it matters much though

[hot plinth]

Thats wat i thought cause i dont remember wilders in that skrimish

[hot plinth]

I think its just easier to blame the big fluffy kitty man

[proper jasper]

Aww poor Uwutus

[hot plinth]

haha

[ruby gazelle]

[rustic copper]

Who is the best loli in game and why it's peggy?

[silk widget]

[languid panther]

Whats the best why to die and why is it self immolation

[hot plinth]

Im telling you there is a reason fornthat change or that statue....they dont just remake the whole damn statue for art update...

[coral zodiac]

Didn't they redo the stone icons and similars because yes too?

[vale grove]

Ye

[hot plinth]

Ya but thats different this is a statue of dura...i feel like linda aint telling me something...but we will see

[proper jasper]

New birthday drop soon

I hope I'm awake to see it

[ruby gazelle]

woke embla??!

[proper jasper]

The Dolly hint was me all along

[ruby gazelle]

[frank meteor]

if only lbs weren't so racist

[proper jasper]

Don't set the bar so high. They might trip over it

[hot plinth]

Dk how they are any more hateful and savage then maulers or wilders.

Gb are just a plague upon the world which isnt fully thier fault but still any hatred toward gaveborn def is just. Maulers are very terriitorial and will attack anyone or anything that steps foot in thier territory. Wilders pretty much thr same thing but stick to nature and forests.

@proper jasper yall think they'll wait after ae to announce whatever dolly was talking bout or be a mid to late ae thing?

[proper jasper]

Right before or at next patch if I have to guess

[hot plinth]

Still think its talene?

Or a new hero

[proper jasper]

Can't really see it being anything else, it's about time they wrap it up anyways.

[ruby gazelle]

they will drop new woke mid ae

thats broken

and whels gonna cry

[proper jasper]

Can't wait

[austere tusk]

its ok next woke will be a tank not a carry

[proper jasper]

Hoping for Talene tier next. I'm so tired

[austere tusk]

I hope if they look cool they're abelinda tier, and if they look bad they can be atalene tier

[proper jasper]

If they're a character I like they can be abel tier

[austere tusk]

I just want an excuse to not build abelinda really

[hot plinth]

Theyll give us all moon stones to evolve tiddylene into bimbolene now with duck lips and over sized porportions

[austere tusk]

please no

[hot plinth]

[proper jasper]

[sturdy nova]

Clawlossus lore, the new ae boss

[silk widget]

Appreciate that. Havent been able to log in to my acc on test server recently

[sturdy nova]

Anytime, we're all lore nerds!!

[proper jasper]

Thanks a lot!

[vernal mauve]

Uhhhh

[proper jasper]

New comic out on bilibili everyone!

Here: last two chapters
https://manga.bilibili.com/m/detail/mc31021

[proper jasper]

Ok so according to this comic, it looks like the next hero is actually another obsidian finch 👀

But, a hypo

[dawn helm]

solise resting on belimda's dress is adorable

[proper jasper]

I know!! They're so cute

[ruby gazelle]

WHERE IS AZIZH

[proper jasper]

He's crying about not being invited

[ruby gazelle]

[lament meadow]

HE MAKES YOU A CAKE

AND YA EXCLUDE HIM

[sand canopy]

Hehe

[proper jasper]

She's so cute

[fallen trellis]

[fallen trellis]

Waiting for translated version to come out

[proper jasper]

https://tenor.com/view/rain-tea-thinking-sad-gif-10851337

I wonder if this bit from way back was a foreshadowing to a showdown between Talene and the hypo finch

[fallen trellis]

Plot twist: it's her mom

[proper jasper]

[ruby gazelle]

is this a new hero?

new dim

[proper jasper]

Yup. Don himself told me

[ruby gazelle]

[proper jasper]

It seems like it, from the new chapter

[sturdy nova]

@proper jasper what comic is it!? Can u send link to read even if in Chinese

[proper jasper]

@sturdy nova link here! It's the last three chapters

[sturdy nova]

Thankyousomuchhh

[proper jasper]

[sturdy nova]

i just read all the last 3 chapters and i think it's majorly confirmed that ||the upcoming finch is talene's mother||

i mean all the ||mother son plot point longwith the "grief" talia talked about with all sorts of choices and stuff i think we can ascertain dark talene is coming||

[fallen trellis]

Wtf

If it's actually her mom then it's the 2nd time I accidentally predicted a hero by joking about it

The first being swolise

[proper jasper]

Edwin inn quote

[hot plinth]

HATRED!

they need to fight LOOL

[hot plinth]

the villian?

the real villan as i said?

[hot plinth]

LOL BEEFY ASTAR

OK SO I WAS RIGHT

https://manga.bilibili.com/mc31021/852083?from=manga_detail

They did all meet up

and even left together

So why wasnt there annimosity between thane and brutus...

Also idk if its her mother.....her mother persihed and was no more....i think its an ancient obsidian finch if anything else

if you look at this comic\

https://manga.bilibili.com/mc31021/1096280?from=manga_detail

This Obsidian finch had like a clutch of 5 or 6

Talenes mom only had talene

and again cesased the exist to evolve her into a humanoid obsidian finch

when she and her dying or dead mom fell into that volcano

[fallen trellis]

[viral pond]

I don't think she's lazy
I personally think it's her being more tired and less stamina than the others due to her spending most of her time in the forest and cut off from the world outside of the forest

Plus lazy is the last thing i would call a person who could practically flood the whole battlefield with water and drown her enemies in it

[hot plinth]

its a joke XD

its not real translation

[viral pond]

Oh

Nevermind then

Ignore my message

[hot plinth]

you good buddy ❤️

[viral pond]

Oh ok

[hot plinth]

I was just trying to kmake a silly translation

Solise kinda reminds me of that lazy powerful hero

[viral pond]

Ah i see

[viral pond]

Ah i see

Well then
You got me good

[viral pond]

I totally fell for that

[hot plinth]

and tbh it sounds like something that belinda would totally say lol

[viral pond]

I see

Well once it i has officially been released in English translation
We'll know what she really said

[viral pond]

But seriously tho
Wow
She'd really say that?
Dang

[hot plinth]

she didnt lol what i mean i feel like she would she seems like an uppity type princess to me anyway

thats the translation

[viral pond]

Ah
I See
That's what i was thinking as well

I think of Belinda as thsat kind of person as well

I also think of her as a really genereous and kind person

I guess im a very gullible person

Not surprised
Wasnt the first time i fell for soemthing like that

Anyway
@hot plinth
Thanx for the confirmation and real translation
Have a good night (or a day, whatever time of day it is at your location)
Cya

[flint sedge]

Was talking to a friend about the latest comic, and we speculating if it's like a Hypogean Obsidian Finch since this rough translation makes it seem like it

[hot plinth]

it def is

everyone thinking its talenes mommy

[flint sedge]

I honestly don’t think it’s Talene’s mom since she died at the end. And you bring a good point by saying that it has a clutch of 5-6, but I wonder if it’s a male instead of female since in one of my translations it says “his” 🤔

[hot plinth]

goog possibility we will have to wait for the official translation to confirm but that obsidian whom ever they are were def converted to a hypo on the verge of death

[quasi wedge]

simplified chinese doesn't use the female version of "you"

[languid panther]

We were having this same convo last night lol pretty sure it's the new hero, a male hypo finch

A mirror talene

It's not talenes mom bc it's visually distinct from her and I think they did that on purpose, what with the armor ect

[proper jasper]

New hints from weibo

Sorry for potato quality

Since we know elemental imbalances like this have happened before, maybe they tried to stop a similar disaster?

[rustic copper]

by the way, who has already analyzed the information on the recent site? is there something new and interesting there?

[proper jasper]

I haven't seen anything that's not in the game or lore book, aside from some odd hero relationships

They don't really specify what the relationship is, which I wish they did

[proper jasper]

English version is out guys
https://comics.inkr.com/title/2264-afk-arena-the-last-obsidian-finch

Lol they changed her name

[lament meadow]

BRUH THATS COMIC SANS

[dawn helm]

lol

[languid panther]

Tf did they change her name for

Maybe IP reasons or something

So weird

[hot plinth]

Did she have a name?

Woot i was right

Who ever this hypo finch is, is ancient

[proper jasper]

Yeah Talia

[sturdy nova]

Saddddd

[rustic copper]

strange. we have seen the children of Dura, we have seen the children of Annih, but we have never seen the children of Dura and Annih together.🤔

[hot plinth]

Dura is dead and annih was her brother

[hot plinth]

Oh did you see #afk-lore message

[rustic copper]

firstly, they are gods, secondly, this is a family matter, and as Dominic Toretto (or Zeus, I don't remember anymore) said - "there is nothing more important than family"

[proper jasper]

[proper jasper]

Akdhsj so mean

[hot plinth]

[hot plinth]

Isnt it something belinda would say though

I could totally hear her say it

[proper jasper]

Nah Belinda is a sweetheart

[hot plinth]

First scary eyes brutus bro lol

[hot plinth]

Second that top panel you think its that finch

Or just a regilar birb

Cause you know talene is sensing that finch

[proper jasper]

That's just a regular bird

March birthdays!!

[hot plinth]

My queen!!!!

[proper jasper]

Lucy month!!!

[hot plinth]

Shes so beautiful

Lol...that line from astar just makes me keep thinking

Buff astar

[proper jasper]

Awstar

[hot plinth]

Lol

That would be halarious if that was awakened astar

[proper jasper]

New chapter! We got a visual of the Elemental Altar!

Things are definitely getting interesting. I'm just spoilering this to be safe

[hot plinth]

Are those finch spirits intresting.....like i said that hypo finch had to be behind the corrupters....ezizh is kinda too dumb to orchestrate so.ething like the corrupters...

[proper jasper]

Yeah, there's phantoms of a previous battle (you see ghost corruptors too)

[hot plinth]

Link link please

[proper jasper]

https://manga.bilibili.com/m/detail/mc31021

The altar has the same pattern as the book cover

[hot plinth]

So annoying wont let me read it on my phone

[proper jasper]

Oh yeah you need to redirect to the app

[vernal mauve]

Can someone summarise the nakoruru lore, the girl with an eagle

[proper jasper]

In-game lore or samurai shodown lore? I only know one lol

[hot plinth]

Intresting did she absorb the finch spirit

[proper jasper]

Seems like it?

[sand canopy]

My theory:
there was a cataclysm, the birds decided to save everyone and create an altar of the elements, but in the process of creation they burned out in agony from their own flame
talena as a descendant absorbed the remnants of emotions / ghosts of deceased ancestors, as it was in the cradle for the first time

in the charpet 0 they burn

[hot plinth]

Translated with Google Lens. Try it yourself!
https://g.co/lenstranslate

Didnt mean link all the extra stuff

[hot plinth]

Dem baden abs amirite?

[hot plinth]

That picture is of the hypo killing them all

[proper jasper]

[hot plinth]

For a dead guy hes ripped

[proper jasper]

He's so pretty

I'm saving all the panels with him and/or Thane in them

[proper jasper]

Interesting theory

[hot plinth]

He knows how to hadle that spear

Translation: oh thane look how long and big my spear is

[sand canopy]

The killer was not shown. They only showed that he came to make a deal. I don't think anyone would make a deal with their child's killer.

[hot plinth]

The deal was death or live under servitude to the hypo....

If the finch wanted to continue to live pretty sure theyd of took that deal

And not everyone has good morals

Look at lucy

[sand canopy]

so he killed the others and offered him a deal?

[hot plinth]

She became the living embodiment of wrath

[hot plinth]

Thats what im taking from the comic yes the hypo killed the clutch and offered the finch life or death

[sand canopy]

the demon talks about the deceitfulness of the mission, but not about the choice of "die or submit"

[hot plinth]

Not in the words no but he offered him a choice much like the hypo spirit offered lucy power to fight zaph

[sand canopy]

it was not the demon who killed her son, so she agreed

[hot plinth]

Ya it was lol

Zaph didnt technically kill the boy

[sand canopy]

If Zaphrael, after the murder, told her "become a celestial" she would have torn him on the spot

I understand if one demon killed them and the second offered a deal

[hot plinth]

Hypos have a tendacy of killing the hosts spirit once they take over the host....the boy was already dead ornin the process of dying...the moment the boy called out to zaph was oretty much his final breath and zaph knew his son was gone

Only steong wills can fight hypos from fully controlling them lucy is an example

[sand canopy]

let's deal with the birds
The demon killed everyone around, offered one a deal

Did I understand correctly?

[hot plinth]

Yes from what I gather the hypo needs the host of a finch to control to release the corrupters

[sand canopy]

but these are events thousands of years ago

[hot plinth]

Yes hence the war between the finches and corrupters

On thr alter

[sand canopy]

no corrupters yet

corrupters appeared as a result of an imbalance of the elements

[hot plinth]

Wrong

If you read the latests comic you can see the hologram fight with the corrupters and finches

Well not hologram spirits of a ancient war

[sand canopy]

ghost finches with real corrupters

the ghosts of the finches do not fight the ghosts of the corraptors
if ghosts fought ghosts then this could be considered a vision of the past

[hot plinth]

Lol didnt know a real corrupter could take brutus' blade to the face and dissapear and reform like a ghost

They are all spirits a vision of the ancient war between obsidian finches and the corrupters

And if im a betting man most of the finches sacrificed themselves to seal away the corrupters under the alter.

And the seal was broken as you said when the elemental became unbalanced

And you need all 5 elemental runes/heros to gather to reseal them

[sand canopy]

then why do you say the demon killed the finches

[hot plinth]

Cause how do you think they were released originally

[sand canopy]

who?

[hot plinth]

The corrupters

[sand canopy]

the game said that they appeared as a result of an imbalance of the elements

[hot plinth]

Finchs are the only ones that can seal and release the corrupters from what im gathering

Or some cosmic event

Like elemtnal imbalance

[proper jasper]

No. How to stop it is to activate the altar with all emblems

The legend says that the finches responded to the disaster and fought, but they ultimately failed their mission

How and why isn't clear yet

[hot plinth]

Idk man...therr has to be a reason why a hypo would want the vessel of a finch for a "mission"

Finchs are def connected to the corrupters

[proper jasper]

The "mission" the hypo is talking about isn't their deal. It's the "mission" these finches set out to do in response to the disaster. The mission they failed

[hot plinth]

I know what im saying is that finchs are thr key to release and seal the corrupters

Talene had the nightmare.

[proper jasper]

Not saying they're not. You are wrong on some reasonings though. Just pointing that out

[hot plinth]

The corrupters were set on the world not saying she had anythig. To do with releasing but she is connected to them

She needs the 5 runes/heroes to help her reseal the corrupters but she has the power to do so

The ancinet war was the finch fighting the corrupters and seal them eons ago

[proper jasper]

If they successfully "sealed" the corruptors, why was their mission regarded as a failure?

[hot plinth]

Who said it failed?

[proper jasper]

Scroll up

[hot plinth]

Maybe it was incomplete cause they were sealed to some degree

Maybe thats how the elemental shift released em so easily

If they werent sealed the corrupters would be rampaging the land long before the elemental shift

[proper jasper]

The corruptors are directly linked to the elemental imbalance

[hot plinth]

Yes the elemental imbalance created them not disagreeing with that but once born they ravage the lands

They.dont need the imbalance to exist once born

Its not like you restore the balance they just die

[proper jasper]

It's not said that it won't happen. Since those who are afflicted with the disease will all be cured when order is restored, it could also be that they just flop over once that happens

Bit anticlimactic, like a "mothership" kind of concept

[hot plinth]

Thats true too..

Lol right

[proper jasper]

We don't know for sure yet though

[hot plinth]

Thats why i believe the finchs missions was to seal the corrupters away

[proper jasper]

I skimmed the previous vows and nowhere does it say explicitly what will happen to the corruptors

I wonder if the reason why they're making the big bad a finch, is because they need Talene to be relevant to the final resolution of the conflict

[hot plinth]

Shes the last finch after all so she has to be the key some how in some way shape or form to do something maybe the runes are channeled into her to put everything back into balance

And the hypo finch is there to stop her

[proper jasper]

Maybe. The whole thing about emblem resonance will surely have something to do with how they solve all this

[hot plinth]

More comics now!!!!!! Lol

[proper jasper]

We'll get a new chapter tomorrow and the day after, then one every week!

[hot plinth]

but i need em all right now! Lol

[proper jasper]

I feel ya

[hot plinth]

At least we are getting 4 chapters this week do i can be thankful for that

Lk bet thane is jealous of baden cause he has 2 arms again

[proper jasper]

Nah

He's just happy they can hold hands now

[hot plinth]

Lol that too

[hot plinth]

Why brutus got to have scary eyes

[ruby gazelle]

cuz hes high

[proper jasper]

[hot plinth]

Lol

Brutus is so serial and scary lol

But hes a pretty kitty

[ruby gazelle]

hes a huge ass dude wdym kitty

[hot plinth]

[hot plinth]

I feel like this is another contriversial team idk why

[proper jasper]

Well, Edwin is in perfect backstabbing position

[hot plinth]

[vernal mauve]

Cataclysm was fire demon dude with punches doing

[snow python]

One of these guys is not like the other🎵
One of them ||friggin' killed the whole group||

[hot plinth]

lol right XD

[crystal tapir]

Meanwhile, I'm just glad the English version finally acknowledged that the ironjaw has a name after bizarrely omitting it for years.

[queen fossil]

lol

[proper jasper]

New hint from weibo

Looks like Maetria's house, and with the pointer towards the hypo finch.... well-

Things are getting interesting

[dark heath]

so historian lady about to have a magical girl transformation but angry

[proper jasper]

[hot plinth]

What if...

No...

No...

[hot plinth]

....

No.....i liked maetria..

But...

Lets be real....she was very knowledgeable about something that no one else was....she showed up when talene had her dream....shes been therr every step of the way...

[coral zodiac]

Also the cloak on the top floor

[hot plinth]

Missed that

[proper jasper]

Yeeeep

Maetria sus

[hot plinth]

Ya that passage you showed me

She looked pissed and sus alll at the same time...

And if you kinda hear it...she sounds like that deep dark mono toned

[proper jasper]

Lol yeah she does not seem very happy

We have the chapter in english now too. At the end Talene is confronting her, saying that there's more to the tale and that Maetria knows

[hot plinth]

I knew it man! I knew there was somone smarter then ezizh behind the curtain!

Ezizh is cool but this isnt his MO

[proper jasper]

Lmao poor Ezizh

[bold bone]

But if she is the fallen finch? Why is she helping them going that far? I think she need those emblems too

To open the gate completely

The gate to the hypos

[hot plinth]

Thats what we are talking about...

Shes the hypo finch

Thats the question though why

She has to know if all 5 runes are gathered then they are atronger

But maybe im onto something

@proper jasper

What if the corrupters werent sealed under there....but what if its the main corrupter or something that has to do with dura and annih

And the 5 keys or runes are there to open the seal

The corrupters went specifically after the runes....cause they knew that was the way to open the seal

[bold bone]

Yes that can be it, and they cant touch/control those emblems, so they need couriers

Anyway she mustbe darn strong ingame really if she is the one behind all that

[hot plinth]

Im gonna assume the finches were the guardian of this rune

Er seal

[bold bone]

Good i saved cards

[hot plinth]

Im curious if shell be awakened or just a regular hypo

Thrnway they are hyping her seems thr earlier

[bold bone]

She should be a celes, and after then awak to a hypo

But there is already celes talene so idk

[hot plinth]

No thats not how that works

Lol

Just cause you are a finch dont mean you are a celestial

Finch are just birds

[bold bone]

ya true i forgot talene story

[hot plinth]

Talene is a celeatial because she became a humanoid

She transcended

[bold bone]

👍

[proper jasper]

Let's gooooooo

Hypo Maetria!!!

[austere tusk]

👀

[fallen trellis]

But

We just had the crusty man can

[proper jasper]

She's probably gonna be woke lol

[fallen trellis]

Oh goodie

Moar cards

[proper jasper]

[onyx moat]

"By your powers combined, I am Captain Planet!"

[proper jasper]

Lmao

[kind willow]

Sorry im kinda confused, so we are pretty sure it's gonna be maetria as a hypo ?

[hot plinth]

Yes

[proper jasper]

99% sure yeah

[hot plinth]

Whyd i loae my color

[kind willow]

Okay thanks !

[hot plinth]

She looks like a dark talene

Wouldn't think finchs in humanoid form would look the same...unless

[austere tusk]

idk if I like her enough to wanna build her yet
Better than belinda though for sure

[hot plinth]

UNLESS

They are related

[kind willow]

I love the colour palet anyway, I think she's gorgeous

[proper jasper]

She's so pretty

[austere tusk]

I wanna see how the skills look

[hot plinth]

Her and talene have to be related...

[bold bone]

Ya i like her look more than talene

[hot plinth]

Like shes prolly like her great great great geeat great grandma

[austere tusk]

Definitely better than talene

[proper jasper]

I feel like I have to get her now

To commit to the joke

[austere tusk]

You do, it's the law

[proper jasper]

[austere tusk]

Depending on how her skills look I'll decide if I wanna build her or not

[hot plinth]

Wats the joke

[bold bone]

She must be op, is the big boss of the 1st awak serie, ya they better make her op

[hot plinth]

Whos to say shes the boss

Shes the one behind the madness

Id wager what ever is under the seal is the final boss

Unless the prevent the seal from being released

[hot plinth]

If they are related im thinking my theory is acctually connecting more of why that hypo attacked maetria specifically....maybe its talenes lineage that can release or seal that seal.

[bold bone]

Yup yup, i mean she is the one planning all this, not as npc "boss"

[hot plinth]

And thats why all of maetrias clutch was killed along with her.well not her specifically

She was badly wounded

Man im pumped!!!!

[proper jasper]

[hot plinth]

YES YES YES

I mean ni but YES

LETS GO!!!!

[agile tartan]

She looks evil

Embla spooky

[proper jasper]

I'm a hypo now

[fallen trellis]

We have been deceived

Everyone SCATTER

[proper jasper]

No no it's ok

Come closer

[fallen trellis]

Get back demon!

[hot plinth]

I want to hug the embla

[proper jasper]

[agile tartan]

Embla blow afk with hypo powers

https://tenor.com/view/cat-funny-gentlecat-gif-23082714

[fallen trellis]

I go prepare for a widescale war

[proper jasper]

Finally I'll be meta

[hot plinth]

Embla is evil!

Lol

[agile tartan]

Not once u blow it all

No more meta

[dark heath]

Lore

[fallen trellis]

Sending my wilders off to war rn

Swolise promoted to general

[west osprey]

OMG MAETRIA BIRD WOMAN????

[hot plinth]

@proper jasper if you want to change your pfp

[proper jasper]

Lmao thanks, thoigh I might edit the one I have later lol

[hot plinth]

Oh ok maybe theyll make a fun corner comic

[ruby gazelle]

guys new woke is lorsan

no need to thank me

[hot plinth]

Lol

[proper jasper]

[hot plinth]

Looks great

[ruby gazelle]

[hot plinth]

Bro...

That chapter gave me fucking chills

W.e is.down there is gonna be yuge

Stop giving us cliffhangers damn it

Baden be like bro im gonna look all ninja like activating my seal

@proper jasper

[proper jasper]

I love him

[hot plinth]

These comics are lit fuck i love ya man for showing me these

Thr art never dissapoints just wish i could read chinese properly

Lol

[proper jasper]

Lmao I'm glad to hear that

[hot plinth]

I want more cause im wondering if I'm on the right trail

What you thinknis down there

Not much of an explination except a wall that seems to require an awakened finch to open

Or activate

Hmmm

This is too exciting

@proper jasper

[dawn helm]

YESS I JUST WOKE UP FROM A NAP AND I DON'T UNDERSTAND A THING BUT IM HAPPY

[dawn helm]

tthank you

[hot plinth]

No worries

[bold bone]

+1

[proper jasper]

She looks cracked

[dawn helm]

so is this the moment when she backstabs everyone? or front-stabs since she already revealed herself-

[sturdy nova]

I believe hypo made a deal to solve the elemental imbalance, and that's why she guided all heroes to the altar

[sturdy nova]

" Metric "
Algebra is her superpower

[bold bone]

Poor ezizh

[hot plinth]

She already did

[hot plinth]

Rofl right

[dawn helm]

ouch

[delicate vine]

Is Maetria Talene's mother by any chance? She got red and black feather in talene's story and also says they were the only 2 of her kind

[hot plinth]

No

Maetria is Ancient

Like 1000s of years old

If anything shes talenes ancient grandma

Possibly why they look alike

[delicate vine]

lol ok thanx 😆

[rustic copper]

absolutely. just when we thought that the tendency of developers is to awaken old heroes, as they introduce a new already awakened one, confusing all the cards.

[hot plinth]

Lilith never said awakened was exclusive to pre existing heroes

But if you want to get technical maetria has been a hero since talene

So shes been in game for at lesst a year just not as a playable hero

[vapid musk]

And she also had her own sprite 🙂

[hot plinth]

Exactly

Shes honestly the only non hero that had a sprite in game thats had a sprite thry are usually all shadow sprites or w.e

[bold bone]

[hot plinth]

@proper jasper tbf im acctually really sad cause i loved her to pieces. She was the cute little shy smart nerdy girl.

So her being the real villan is kinda saddening

She def played us all thats for sure

Fooking hypos

Cant trust hypos like her and vy lol

[vapid musk]

I think you will kinda love her lore

Well I feel sorry for her

[hot plinth]

Bro i love it already through thr comics i def want to understand what happened though thats for sure

We are only getting glimpses of her past

[vapid musk]

ehehe idk why but I get Lucretia type of motivation

[hot plinth]

Like who is she isnshe related to talene what exactly was this deal

I feel like the deal may of been something like....let one of her children live and the hypo could have her vessel

[vapid musk]

Well uhm

🤭 i can share her cn lore if you wanna

[hot plinth]

Cn lore?

[vapid musk]

当灾变笼罩大地，神鸟将化身火焰拯救世间的生灵”这是自远古时代就流传于曜雀一族中的传说。在那个史书中未曾记录的太古年代，曜雀族群曾翱翔于伊索米亚的天际。
梅特丽娅就是在那个时代诞生的，当她还是曜雀雏鸟的时候，族中先辈就告诉她，曜雀一族身负守护伊索米亚的职责。她在这样的教诲中长大，并将守护世界作为自己终身的使命。
世界性的灾变终于到来之时，梅特丽娅已经成为了曜雀一族的族长。她从未遗忘先祖的教诲，守护世界是曜雀一族的使命，而她将此视为身为曜雀的荣耀。梅特丽娅一直认为，这份使命是创世者赋予曜雀一族的荣光。
名为元素灾变的劫难席卷伊索米亚，世界被元素失衡引起的天灾笼罩，梅特丽娅到了践行使命的时刻。
她遵循着祖训，进入阳炎之炉，毫无保留地释放着体内的阳炎。当熊熊燃烧的阳炎冲破地表，将天灾逐渐驱散之时，尽管体内的阳炎不断被抽离，梅特丽娅还是感受到了前所未有的荣耀。但这种荣耀并未持续多久，取而代之的则是震惊与愤怒。
无数的曜雀从天空中坠落，他们体内的阳炎亦被剥离，他们的羽毛褪去了鲜艳的红色，化为灰白，然后在火焰中化为灰烬。一只雏鸟想要寻求族长的庇护，但来到梅特丽娅羽翼之下时，只剩下了一抹灰烬。
梅特丽娅早已做好了为守护世界奉献生命的觉悟，但从未有人告诉过她，拯救世界的代价是牺牲所有曜雀的生命。
梅特丽娅承受着巨大的反噬，强行中断了仪式，但一切已经于事无补，曾经繁荣的曜雀一族，只剩下零星的孤鸟倒在灰烬中哀嚎。而梅特丽娅的生命也即将走到尽头，她终于明白，所谓的使命只是被藻饰的谎言。但她不甘就此死去，她绝不能就此死去，她誓要向这个世界夺回曜雀一族。
强烈的不甘与复族的欲望引来了恶魔的窥伺，梅特丽娅毫不犹豫地接受了恶魔的力量，只要能够活下去，就有希望找到挽回曜雀一族的方法，为了让族群复苏，她将不惜一切代价。于是，燃烧着黑色火焰的恶魔从灰烬中走出。
梅特丽娅就此蛰伏起来，寻找让曜雀一族复苏的任何一种可能。千年寻访之后，她终于查明了关于神鸟救世的真相。
创世神赫蒙创造伊索米亚时，在虚空中创造了熔炉，从太阳中攫取阳炎为火种，以元素为原料，锻造了伊索米亚这颗星球。由于锻造时受到了黑暗力量的干扰，伊索米亚并不完善，元素之间并未达到完美的平衡，这为日后的元素灾变埋下了祸根。为了修正这个漏洞，赫蒙将熔炉化为了星球的一部分，沉寂于星球的角落，成为“阳炎之炉”。
在锻造世界过程中，阳炎之炉中孕育出了一种核石，经年累月之下，核石蕴含了炎阳的力量，演变为一种灵鸟。由此，曜雀一族从阳炎之炉中诞生。
当伊索米亚元素严重失衡，元素灾变即会发生。此时，阳炎将在血脉最浓厚的曜雀体内凝聚，凭借阳炎之炉重新锻造整个世界，彻底修正赫蒙锻造星球留下的漏洞。而阳炎之炉则会耗尽力量，彻底熄灭，与之相生的曜雀一族也将因阳炎的熄灭而化为凡鸟而死。曜雀一族，要用火焰守护这个世界，这不是什么光荣的使命，而是曜雀一族无法摆脱的宿命——曜雀，是修正漏洞的工具，亦是世界的柴薪。
真相无比残酷，但梅特丽娅却从中找到了复苏族群的机会。只要在元素灾变再次来临之时，将最后的曜雀引入阳炎之炉，让世间所有的阳炎重归炉中，曜雀一族就拥有重新孕育的机会。
于是她开始等待，直至元素灾变再次在伊索米亚现身。曜雀族群的后裔塔琳成为了伊索米亚最后的曜雀，所有的阳炎之火都汇聚在塔琳的身体之中。一切已经就绪，而梅特丽娅早已做好了谋划，她伪装成绿裔历史学者，在恰当的时机出现在塔琳面前。
“尊敬的曜雀，让我跟你讲述神鸟救世的传说。”

[vapid musk]

Maetria's lore

[hot plinth]

When cataclysm covers the earth, the divine bird will turn into flames to save the world's creatures." This is a legend that has been passed down among the sparrows since ancient times. In the ancient times that were not recorded in the history books, the sparrows once soared in Isomia skyrim.

Metelia was born in that era. When she was still a chick of the squirrel, the ancestors of the clan told her that the slender clan was responsible for protecting Isomia. She grew up with such teachings and made it her lifelong mission to protect the world.

When the worldwide catastrophe finally came, Maiteria had already become the patriarch of the Lunar Sparrow clan. She has never forgotten the teachings of her ancestors, and protecting the world is the mission of the Swan Sparrow clan, and she regards this as the glory of being a Swan Sparrow. Meteria has always believed that this mission is the glory bestowed on the Sparrow family by the creator.

A catastrophe called elemental catastrophe swept across Isomia, and the world was shrouded in natural disasters caused by elemental imbalance. It was time for Maiteria to fulfill her mission. Following the precepts of her ancestors, she entered the Furnace of Yang Flame and unreservedly released the Yang Flame in her body. When the blazing sun flames broke through the surface of the earth and gradually dispelled the natural disasters, even though the sun flames in her body were constantly being pulled away, Maiteria still felt unprecedented glory. But this glory did not last long, replaced by shock and anger.

Countless sparrows fell from the sky, and the sun flames in their bodies were also stripped. Their feathers faded from bright red, turned into gray, and then turned into ashes in the flames. A fledgling seeks shelter from its patriarch, but when it comes under Meteria's wings, there's nothing left but ashes. Metelia has already made up her mind to dedicate her life to protect the world, but no one has ever told her that the price of saving the world is to sacrifice the lives of all the sparrows.

[vapid musk]

Wait I forgot first part lmao

Ah no it's okay nevermind

I'm just kinda tired

[hot plinth]

Meteria endured a huge backlash and forcibly interrupted the ceremony, but nothing helped. Only a few sporadic solitary birds were left crying in the ashes of the once prosperous sparrow family. And Metelia's life is coming to an end, she finally understands that the so-called mission is just a lie covered up. But she is not willing to die just like this, she must not die like this, she vows to take back the Yaoque clan to this world.

The strong unwillingness and desire to revive the clan attracted the prying eyes of the devil, and Maiteria accepted the power of the devil without hesitation. As long as she could survive, she hoped to find a way to restore the Yaozai clan. In order to revive the clan, She will stop at nothing. Then, out of the ashes came a demon burning with black flames.

At this point, Metelia hibernates, looking for any possibility to revive the Luminary Sparrow Clan. After thousands of years of searching, she finally found out the truth about the salvation of the divine bird.

When the creation god Hemon created Isomia, he created a furnace in the void, grabbed the sun from the sun as fire, and used elements as raw materials to forge the planet Isomia. Due to the interference of dark forces during forging, Isomia was not perfect, and the elements did not reach a perfect balance, which laid the foundation for future elemental catastrophes. In order to correct this loophole, Hemon turned the melting furnace into a part of the planet, and quietly placed it in the corner of the planet, becoming the "Sunfire Furnace".

When the creation god Hemon created Isomia, he created a furnace in the void, grabbed the sun from the sun as fire, and used elements as raw materials to forge the planet Isomia. Due to the interference of dark forces during forging, Isomia was not perfect, and the elements did not reach a perfect balance, which laid the foundation for future elemental catastrophes. In order to correct this loophole, Hemon turned the melting furnace into a part of the planet, and quietly placed it in the corner of the planet, becoming the "Sunfire Furnace".

In the process of forging the world, a kind of core stone was bred in the sun furnace. After many years, the core stone contained the power of the sun and evolved into a kind of spirit bird. As a result, the Yao sparrow family was born from the furnace of the sun.

When the elements of Isomia are seriously out of balance, elemental catastrophe will happen. At this time, Yang Yan will condense in the body of Yao Sparrow with the strongest blood, and rely on the furnace of Yang Yan to reforge the whole world, completely correcting the loopholes left by Hemon forging the planet. But the Furnace of Sun Flame will run out of power and be completely extinguished, and the Sparrow family that lives with it will also turn into ordinary birds and die due to the extinguishment of Yang Flame. It is not an honorable mission for the Sparrows to guard the world with flames, but a fate that the Sparrows cannot get rid of. The Sparrows are a tool for correcting loopholes and firewood for the world.

The truth is extremely cruel, but Maiteria found an opportunity to revive the group. As long as the last scorpion is introduced into the furnace of sun flames when the elemental catastrophe comes again, all the scorpions in the world will return to the furnace, and the scorpion family will have the opportunity to re-breed.

So she waited until the Elemental Cataclysm reappeared in Isomia. Talin, a descendant of the sparrow group, became the last sparrow of Isomia, and all the flames of the sun gathered in Talin's body. Everything has been prepared, and Metelia has already made a plan. She disguised herself as a green-born historian and appeared in front of Talin at the right time. "Dear Yao sparrow, let me tell you the legend of the divine bird saving the world.'

Fuck...

Just fuck

[ruby gazelle]

is that also from lore

[hot plinth]

Ya its translated from what he said

[vapid musk]

I'm really feel sorry for her

[hot plinth]

Indeed

[vapid musk]

Now I wonder
If emblems do nothing with this disaster....
How the hell we can cure all people who was affected by corruption....

[hot plinth]

Thr corrupters have to be put to an end they need to be resealed or killed

[proper jasper]

Maetria lore 👀

[dark heath]

damn do they call the sparrows like 10 different things intentionally or is that just google translate funnies

[proper jasper]

The joys of machine translation

[dark heath]

wonder which one is the real one then

[proper jasper]

Scorpion has a nice ring to it

[dark heath]

definitely that one

it’s just hinting at new mauler ezpz

[proper jasper]

It all makes sense

[hot plinth]

@proper jasper what was the website with thebfun corner comics like this

That one came from the chinease comics but you had a site for unused ones iirc

[proper jasper]

Unused?

[hot plinth]

Ya thats what you said iirc

[proper jasper]

I'm a little confused

The translated ones are easiest to find in community, by clicking on Dolly's profile and scrolling down

The rest of them are found at the same chinese comic website

[hot plinth]

Ya those

[sturdy nova]

Exception of Lucretia's human form can be made i guess

[sturdy nova]

Sameeeeeee, i kinda wanted to build her maxed or something as a wilder

[brisk sequoia]

Astar takes gym suplements. Lol also need comics like that

[dark heath]

dang i’m just in ch 1 and the framing of the hypo finch then switching to owl lady is kinda foreshadowing 101

[glad ruin]

im just here praying that maetria's sprite sucks so i dont feel bad about having just ascended brutus

digging everything about this, original awakened, and such a fun color scheme for a hypo too

[austere tusk]

I hope its good along with her ability visuals so I don't feel bad about building her 😅

[west osprey]

she better look good or i’ll immediately redesign her

hell i’ll probably do that anyways i love me my bird women

[bold bone]

Ya i love her already, what a lore, so sad and so good

[hot plinth]

i love her smirk there you know something is up at that point

@proper jasper

[proper jasper]

Ooh nice! Thanks!

Is there a bard tales quote too?

[proper jasper]

Ooooh nice

[hot plinth]

Bard tales?

Ogmh shit let me look

@proper jasper

Also forgot this

[proper jasper]

Thank you!

Lmao "Brutus and his friends"

[hot plinth]

Ikr! Lol if only she knew

[hot plinth]

No worries buddy

[bold bone]

I mean brutus vs thane baden was in war, that is side vs side fight not private rivality, that is totally different

[proper jasper]

Yeah I know

Hm on second thoughts the other panel is better

[hot plinth]

Rofl why im waiting for that annimosity to boil over after the final battle

There is no way thane and baden let it go

[proper jasper]

Nah I think they're good

They were soldiers, not much more to it

Besides, what good will it do now?

[austere tusk]

lmao I love that

[proper jasper]

After this whole thing is over I want Anasta to keep misunderstanding Brutus and Thane's whole deal as some sort of deep warrior friendship.

It'd be so funny

[fallen trellis]

[rustic copper]

strange. Talena is a phoenix, but she wears a swimsuit... or is it a firesuit?

[proper jasper]

Given that she just suddenly gets it when she awakens I'd say it's most similar to a magical girl outfit lol

Magical clothes that appear when you get a power up

[dark heath]

really tiny dense layer of feathers

she’s actually been naked this whole time

[hot plinth]

Revenge

[rustic copper]

Oh. So that's clear why she's so horny

[void moth]

No ur horny sick fuck

[rustic copper]

No,u

[proper jasper]

[fallen trellis]

[dark heath]

no, me 😔

[fallen trellis]

Off to horny jail, all of you.

[proper jasper]

So pretty

[ruby gazelle]

tyvm

[proper jasper]

Yw

[viral pond]

Apparently its what i thoguht
The the heroes that that became Awakened with elemental emblems do become gods of their respective elements
Atleast that what the comic said in chapter 4

Also Maetria does cool
This ought be interesting
Still wish she didn't have to potentially be the enemy

[dawn helm]

I'm excited to see where this is going but i was in love with her owl design, so cute twt

[glad ruin]

I hope that make a talia skin down the line, would be funny

[sand canopy]

maybe we'll get an owl skin in the future

[proper jasper]

Oooh that'd be cool

[hot plinth]

They arent gods no one is a god in the game. They are more like the guardians of the runes now instead of the elemental guardians.

@proper jasper thought we were

Suppose to get a new comic today

[proper jasper]

No, different timezones

[sturdy nova]

Yeah i thought it was out with the new cover along with maetria

[proper jasper]

Next chapter is in a week

Ngl though I did keep refreshing the page today "just in case"

[viral pond]

Oh ok
Thanx for telling me that
Really glad for the confirmation that they're not gods
But then why did the comic say say this:
"A hero charged with a sacred mission
A race of gods hurtling towards their fated end
The fear not sacrifice, for they have been entrusted with the hope of the hope world
The violent calamity will soon come to an end"
@hot plinth
This was after Talene and Maetria entered the Altar nad before Maetria got separated from Talene
?

Im literally baffled by that

[proper jasper]

Pretty sure it's a reference to the tale of the obsidian finches

Or that this verse is directly about that

[viral pond]

Ah i see

That might make more sense

Honestly these monologuing poetic narrative story speeches can be really confusing
Or whatever that whole thing that i typed down was called

[proper jasper]

Lol yeah

[hot plinth]

Ya thats the finches people consider celestials as gods but they are more like angels. But at the same time they are pheonixs almost like godly beings. Idk its hard to exactly say what lilith means 100% of the time. There are like 5 6 gods dura and ennih or w.e her brothers name was are the 2 primary. Celestials are basically angels and hypogeans are demons.

[viral pond]

Ah i see
That makes total sense now
Thanx

[hot plinth]

Elemental guardians ie khazard granit serius nevanthi respen and the unnamed fire elemental were born to protect the elements and runes and keep balance

They are mortal beings that can die or be cirrupted ie khazard

The now rune bearers are im gonna go on a limb basically the new guardians of the runes

But empowered by the elements themselves

[proper jasper]

Keep in mind that Lilith is a chinese company. While they do draw inspiration from christian theology, they'll naturally draw upon myths and religious beliefs of China

[hot plinth]

Thats very true and they do consider a pheonix a godly bird

[proper jasper]

Ajdhsj I'd stay for the convo but it's late

And I have half a brain rn

[hot plinth]

Its ok go rest

[viral pond]

I see thanx
@proper jasper @hot plinth

[hot plinth]

Np

[proper jasper]

Edwin corner!

[glad ruin]

sad theowyn is still getting chop livered

[proper jasper]

[proper jasper]

She looks different from what I remember

[coral zodiac]

OH LMAO

[hot plinth]

Ya she got some abs and more of a humanoid form

Thats a puzzler

Oof lol fine

I was excited lol

@proper jasper

[proper jasper]

Wha

[hot plinth]

READ TASI

[proper jasper]

Ooooh Tasi update!

And Ezizh!

[hot plinth]

Yus

[proper jasper]

Nice

Thanks for sharing!

[hot plinth]

Np all i did was get excited and soammed your name like 20x as i normally do

[proper jasper]

I was jumpscared

[hot plinth]

Server like newp

[hot plinth]

Haha bit it was super duper important! Like that needed 20 pings

@proper jasper question please...why are obsidian finches called obsidian finches....finch makes sense but obsidian is a puplish black clearly not thier color do you know why?

I just assume it was to avoid the word phoenix

[proper jasper]

I'm honestly not sure myself. That's a choice the translator made, and I'm not good enough at chinese to analyze what they're originally called

[hot plinth]

All good buddy somone in my discord slightly intrested in lore asked i told em i wasnt fully sure either and i would ask linda and our espira historian in main discore ie you.

[vale grove]

Hodgkin one fhjdkas

[fallen trellis]

Thong man adventures

[hot plinth]

rofl i just looked at that i got so excited over ezizh and tasi XD

[hot plinth]

@proper jasper help please..

[sturdy forge]

How come ghrezul is mortal enemies with enwyne

[hot plinth]

Who?

@proper jasper

1 i dont trust kren around a fire cracker lil lone explosions

2 the tavern....ya you fat stiken drunk of course your pateol would be doubled there

[coral zodiac]

I'm not sure if they are referring to Edwin

[hot plinth]

Ya im confused too lol

If thry meant edwin its cause well he slit his brothers throat a pretty good reason to make him your mortal enemy id say specially being the personal guard of said brother

[hot plinth]

Inc lore

@proper jasper in b4 you ask

Ok 2 lore items inc

[glad ruin]

im not sure i get how her lore fits with talenes

[hot plinth]

It doesnt?

Maetria is ancient lol ive said this 100 times

[glad ruin]

no i know

but her whole deal is that all the finches died except for her, so how was there another community living by talenes time

and at the end of the story it's like "there's still one finch left" and its like no there were a bunch of them why didn't you do anything to help them maetria

[hot plinth]

Ah there it is, you think all of her clutch died

[sturdy nova]

I had similar questions, it's not coherent that we have two last obsidian finches

[hot plinth]

A few didnt

[sturdy nova]

That two from different times

[sturdy nova]

Source?

[hot plinth]

No source just obvious

If all but her died talene wouldnt exiat nor talenes mom

The majority of the finches died off

But there were too few to reproduce on top of that they were hunted

Talene is legitimately the final obsidian finch her mom as you saw gave up her existsnce in the volcano to turn her into a humanoid finch

You can say maetria but maetria is dead

That is a hypo controled finch vessle

[sturdy nova]

While i agree with the above statements but the last ones

Maetria for sure isn't dead, she has a conscience and reason

[hot plinth]

How so?

[sturdy nova]

And she is making an active choice to scheme the whole of the current plot for talene so as to restore obsidian finches

That makes her more like Lucretia, a motivated, alive, and conscious vessel to the hypogean

[hot plinth]

So you are telling me maetria had thr power to disguise her self...and trick not only talene but thane brutus solise baden and belinda into gathering some of the most powerful artifacts in all of espira cause shes conscience and has reason?

Lucy has a strong will. Maetria was besten near death before she was taken over

Also dollylogue

Quite vague af lol

Could be anyone

[glad ruin]

its the sort of dialogue dims get

they did say they had some comic collab slated for this year

[glad ruin]

also i mean yeah why else would she do that

[hot plinth]

Cause thats not maetria and just a hypo spirit using her emotions mind and body as most hypo spirits do. And its proven that thr host spirit dies specially if they arent strong enough willed to fight off the hypo control

[glad ruin]

but theres nothing in her story that tells us she was weak willed, you're just assuming that was the case

it doesnt even say in the story that a "spirit" possessed her, just "energies," which feels like it implies something different

https://i.gyazo.com/c124fa0056d6ddecae99f0183f0a5757.png of course then again

[hot plinth]

It doesnt say no but lets look at a few examples lucys son he was dead or dying the moment thr hypo took over and you could see it in the cinematic and in his voice

The whole reason zaph murked him instead of trying to save him

[glad ruin]

but thats a literal child who was betrayed by his community and kidnapped by cultists to be sacrificed, it only makes sense that he would not have the strength to resist such a possession, there wouldn't be any emotion he would be feeling at the time except for fear

[hot plinth]

The spirit swapped to lucy and she allowed it in but her will rage anger and wrath made her stronger she taps into the power of the hypo, mind you she could be dead as well at this point

Hypo spirits are demons

[glad ruin]

maetria has a real motivation and the emotions associated with them (hatred and anger for the entities responsible for her fate; and hope for resurrecting her race) so she's closer to lucretia in the scenario

[hot plinth]

If we take real lore of demons thry kill the host and over take it

[glad ruin]

but even in the lore that's not always true

[hot plinth]

Maetria was on the verge of death lol you can see it in the comic

[glad ruin]

take mortas, he straight up swindled a hypo out of his hyponess, but he's still him

[hot plinth]

There is no way she has the will to resist a damn thing specially after seeing her family burn and die

[glad ruin]

mental will is not the same as physical strength

lucretia was just a regular person, she didn't resist the twin terrors with her gains

[sturdy nova]

I'm just saying that she isn't dead, she was on the brink of death when the hypogean saved her and used her as a vessel
And hence the powers of deceit and deception came into her from the hypogean, along with the humanoid form

[hot plinth]

Well lets see shes on the verse of death so shes weak af physical str depleted.....her whole family friend and kingdom is burning around her and she has nothing left, mentally broken down check. So what will does she have left?

[glad ruin]

but she's not broken down, she's angry, determined and resisting until the last second.

[hot plinth]

Her body isnt dead no her spirit is

But the world didnt take her kinsfolk away lol

[sturdy nova]

When you put it that her spirit is dead, how do you explain her motives and will to destroy inorder to regain the obsidian finch family of hers?

[hot plinth]

Cause a hypo can manipulate emotions and thoughts of the vessel making thier own but maybe she is alive maybe she has thr strength but again her current motivations are showing evil

[sturdy nova]

I think we're both on the same page but just slightly different interpretation of her possession

While i believe that her spirit isn't really dead, but the good side of hers is dead, more or less overshadowed by the evil side enflamed by the hypo, her feelings of betrayal and loss are enormous, and hence the hypo channels through those feelings and brings about the destruction

[hot plinth]

That might be thr answer

[hot plinth]

I get ya sometimes ita really hard to tell whom is dead or alive when its a possesed vessle rather then a natural demon

[sturdy nova]

lore nerds hehe

[hot plinth]

And you got to remeber shes ancient

So over time she could of ceased to exist and the hypo fully take over as well

[hot plinth]

The one obaidian finch that was left could of gone on to continue talenes bloodline

From.the sounds of it as i said they all didnt die off

And another elemental disorder needed to happen to access the furnace

And shes planning on sacraficing talene to revive everyone i guess.

[glad ruin]

i thought that was talking about talene herself

but maybe

[hot plinth]

How so talenes mom was a thing lol

Talene isnt ancient

We just dont know how obsidian finches reproduce

[glad ruin]

because that part of the story comes a thousand years after she was turned into a hypo

it says it took that long before she found all of this out

[hot plinth]

The time line is quite vague regardless even if it was 1000 year ago or so...there was maetria and one un named obaidian finch carrying the solarian flame still and that finch passed ot through generations.

Talenes mom is still a thing so she had to come from somewhere and talene had to be born somehow

As the comic shows shes a baby

[glad ruin]

i was looking at some of the other stories with the finches and i had forgotten how some of the details never quite lined up. like framtons says he massacred a lot of finches but talenes says it was just her and her mom left.

probably some translation thing i imagine

[hot plinth]

As i said

Thry were hunted lol

They may be Parthenogenesis basically can lay eggs without mating.

[glad ruin]

yeah but they were hunted within the same time period

(presumably)

talene never knew any finches other than her mom, and her story decribes her mom trying to hold off demons after they found them

[hot plinth]

Yup

[glad ruin]

while framtons says he found where all the finches lived and killed them all then, including her mom

it only makes sense if talenes mom got away and birthed her later and managed to get away from framton for years, but thats not stated anywhere

[hot plinth]

And she got severaly beaten by framton and babylene carried her body all the way to a volcano and the heat of the volcano tore the vine net talene used to carry her mom and they both fell into the volcano. Activing some solarian finch runes or w.e and her mom gave up her existance to evolve talene i to her humanoid form

Sec it seems you havent read the comic or seen it

https://comics.inkr.com/title/1034-the-resurging-flame-afk-arena/chapter/60540-chapter-2

If you want to read it

Read chapter 1 as well

Babylene so stronk 💪

[proper jasper]

Thanks!

[hot plinth]

Np

[hot plinth]

What you think do you believe martria is dead or do you think shes been stronged will enough to remain her all these centuries ?

[proper jasper]

She's been herself all this time yeah

To me, it looks closer to a Mortas deal than other mortal->hypo instance we see.

[glad ruin]

i dont think that explains what im quibbling about?

[hot plinth]

Gotcha

Oh maybe i misunderstood time lines are fickle but i dont believe it was years she got away from.framton

Framton has to be summoned into the world

Ill show ya

[glad ruin]

right, what's weird to me is that in framton's story talene's mom is just another one of the finches he killed once he found their settlement, while in talene's story and seemingly that comic talene and her mom had seemingly been living alone in peace as the last of the finches

[glad ruin]

i guess its possible talenes mom just lied to her and raised her off alone, and was just back in finch town when framton attacked or something? which still doesn't make a lot of sense

[proper jasper]

Lmao finch town

[glad ruin]

afk lore is confusing

they need to give us more dates

and stuff

[hot plinth]

Indeed time lines are very fickle

Ny question is how does framton get desummoned

Does he exist for a certain amount of tine?

Cause he was summoned when her mom died

And then resummoned when talene evolved

[hot plinth]

No no baki does the thing! Lol 😆 ty

[proper jasper]

Oh thanks!!

[proper jasper]

So pretty

[hot plinth]

Her ult ani

[proper jasper]

I like this frame

[hot plinth]

Right she looks like pure rage

Lol thats what i captured im sure if i edited the clip in vid editor i could get any specific frame

[austere tusk]

Omg the ult looks so fucking cool

[proper jasper]

I assume this is a mistake, but otherwise that's a weird implication

I mean they're only carrying the emblem, not becoming the guardians themselves? Do they mean guardians of the emblems?

@hot plinth could you message Bel about this?

[slow nest]

Will we have awakened Hypogeans?

More to say, is it lore possible? Or does it only work on celestials/ other factions?

Just an interesting question I've been having regarding that. We had an awakened Graveborn which I didn't expect it. Does awakening has to do with the desire of the user?

Reminds me of the Requiem Arrow From jojo part 5 kinda. Arrow grants to the user's by their will/ And Desiree for something and they get an ability/ or modification of said wish?

[coral zodiac]

Well, we are going to get Maetria in the next patch, and we got too previously awakened Ezizh

[slow nest]

Maetria? I just saw it now. Is that a hypogean? Or an awakened hypogean?

[coral zodiac]

She's an awakened hypogean yeah

[slow nest]

Oo

[coral zodiac]

She didn't had a normal version, to call it someway, like all the previous awakened heroes we got

[slow nest]

Sorry been very not into the lore of the game. I noticed AFK Arena had a very deep lore

[coral zodiac]

It's fine!

[slow nest]

Should be called Legends of Esperia in a future for comics, series, show

So far my knowledge goes that there was this goddess dura and her brother (forgot his name) and they didn't get along well
They fought and he birthed the hypogeans and dura kinda just phased away before leaving parts of her spreaded on the world?

So from her, she created the celestials before dying? Giving them roles and such.

Celestial spread her words into the land of esperia. That's where the temple of light came in.

( I'm a casual player but yeah just recently been interested.

[dawn quest]

Annih (spelling may be off), God of death, brother of Dura.

Kinda baller.

[coral zodiac]

Celestials are like gods

[dawn quest]

Celestials are the closest to Gods we will likely get.

[slow nest]

Celestials remind me of Greek mythology gods

They aren't pers say gods. Just abusers most of them.

[dawn quest]

The existence of Dura and Annih proves that, while Zaphrael is kinda cool, he ain't a God.

[slow nest]

At least the Zafrael and lucretia story depicts this.

Just strong people blessed by her remains. But for me they might spread they are God's but aren't.

They only celestial I actually felt sad was Flora

At least she had felt she had no purpose and existential crisis?

Like her story felt as a child who had nothing given and wanted to find a purpose in her existence.

[dawn quest]

The celestials, by one means or another, technically ascended to such a status.

[slow nest]

Ascended?

So you are not born a celestial?

[dawn quest]

I can't think of any that were.

Titus being an exception, as he was created by the celestials.

[slow nest]

Flora was a result from mother ice?

[crystal tapir]

I don't think the game specifies most of their origins.

[dawn quest]

Okay, several of them were created, but nonetheless a good chunk ascended to their status.

[slow nest]

I at least sympathize with flora. The others depends. The twins seem like they should be fine cause they represent when 2 persons resolve a conflict.

Interesting.. so you can be born a celestial or ascend into one.

[dawn quest]

Flora got it rough, but she's doing well these days I hear.

[slow nest]

What's her story so far?

[dawn quest]

Born is a strong word, but it is a word.

[slow nest]

Never seen more stories of the celestial. I mean. Flora wanted to be like Athalia

[dawn quest]

Don't we all?

[crystal tapir]

Flora's story is "I'm useless, but flowers are pretty".
Not one of the more interesting characters.

[slow nest]

Created? Molded? As a reaction form the winter mother?

[slow nest]

Well it's more of "Make life bloom."

[crystal tapir]

(But still more interesting than freaking Solise.)

[proper jasper]

Celestials are all demi gods, that had their godhood stripped away when the Barred Gate breached and they failed their promise to Dura. I suppose what define a Celestial is if they're affected by this promise. Other than that it's a pretty big melting pot of different types

[dawn quest]

Came to be by circumstance I suppose.

[slow nest]

Hmm..

[dawn quest]

Oh my God it's Embla.

[proper jasper]

[slow nest]

Barred gate?

[dawn quest]

Hello Embla.

[proper jasper]

Hii!!

[slow nest]

Hi embla

[proper jasper]

[slow nest]

So I had just a general question with the lore in how it goes

[dawn quest]

[slow nest]

So dura dies. Leaves her pieces

[crystal tapir]

To confuse things with Celestials even further, Wu Kong is a Dimensional who's only considered a Celestial because he's a god in his own universe.

[slow nest]

Celestial dimensional

[dawn quest]

I mean... Wukong isn't necessarily a dimensional I'd argue.

[proper jasper]

Lmao yeah Wu Kong is weird, but the reason he is a Celestial is because he was invited to be one by the gods

[slow nest]

Technically Mulan should be XD if you count she comes from Technically a mythology poem

[dawn quest]

He's just enough of an asshole to exist in Esperia naturally.

[slow nest]

Wu kon casually goes with budha

[proper jasper]

So weird they didn't make him a dim

[crystal tapir]

I mean he came from another universe in-story. He has the same origin as the other Dimensionals.

[slow nest]

But embla. What is the reason they broke the promise?

Like after dura died. The hypos came to destroy her temple?

[proper jasper]

Before Dura died, they made a promise to guard the Barred Gate. However, they grew lax in their duties, and Uemiss launched an offensive on Altor to draw the gods away from the gate. Then Khazard did his part and the hypogeans breached their seal

[slow nest]

Uemis?

[proper jasper]

There's a big timeline, lemme send you the link

https://word-afk.lilith.com/?fbclid=IwAR08JzAaInVdq9t6RHAPYcmh_D2T7PcJjJT3SLPYctDNd0L-v6M-Mnf_dsE

If you click on chronicles you can read the entire timeline, it makes more sense in context I suppose

[dawn quest]

Too late now I suppose, but you right.

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[slow nest]

Nice

Thanks that is perfect

Honas?

[proper jasper]

Big dude

[slow nest]

Homas created the universe?

Who's homas?

[proper jasper]

Yeah

He's the primordial god of creation and order

Lutos is his counterpart

[slow nest]

:0

Woah

I don't even know them

So it wasn't dura who created the world

Dura comes from homas?

[proper jasper]

I suppose in a way, he's not said to be made by him directly, but she is born out of his creation so...?

I like how we get more lore on Honas and the creation of Esperia through Maetria's story

[slow nest]

In another note. One story I quite wanna see is Ferael's story Animated. Dudes been around since the beginning of AfK and we haven't seen his story animated.

[proper jasper]

Oh btw the site also have lore on Celestials, which sums up pretty neatly what they are and what defines them

[proper jasper]

Please that would be so cool!!!!

[slow nest]

I saw! Thankss

[proper jasper]

I love Ferael

[slow nest]

Has ferael been the first graveborn in the game?

I've been playing around 2 years now

Like, should make sense he has a spot.

I know king Thorian has the grave born lore. I saw the animation where he was singing ( loved afk went to anime like styles. It's so great.)

His sister is pretty much la Llorona.

[proper jasper]

Not the first Iirc, there's a timeline posted on reddit, I can see if I find it

[slow nest]

Except no children. And betrayal

Please do if you can!

Cause Ferael apparently was the best archer in esperia?

Then died suddenly cause he got cocky.

Met a lady (apparently very important) no named given in the English version

Lady, killed him? Or killed him again?

He killed her instead. Now his bow suddenly is now harvesters of spirits. The question comes in: Who or what are those spirits

[proper jasper]

Not the first, but pretty early

[slow nest]

Damn he's very early

So afk didn't had all the characters we have before?

I joined around 2020

When ezio was in

[proper jasper]

Afaik they're just spirits who apparently like to hang around him lol

[slow nest]

XD omg

Imagine. Lore Canon wise

Spirits: Yeah he's super chill bro.

But his story has plot holes

Or not very detalized

Apparently the lady resurrected him when he died from a mauler

[proper jasper]

The cn lore is more clear about it, he was in coma after getting grievously injured, and Gila nursed him back to consciousness so she could use him as a summoning sacrifice

Ferael sort of merged with this ancient spirit she summoned, and then killed her and made ornaments out of her bones and shit

[slow nest]

This lady which I will call "Necromancer" seduced him into her service

[slow nest]

Jesus

Was he a good person?