I'm sleepy
#afk-lore
trail kite
he did that and the quote is...let's go Thane
proper jasper
Also, that's a rose right?
proper jasper
Hhh
languid panther
Yknow I wanted to have blue roses in a one shot I was doing but thought blue roses were too silly cause that doesn't exist
Why am I like this
Yeah there's undead guys but no blue roses
proper jasper
Yknow I wanted to have blue roses in a one shot I was doing but thought blue ros...
Too silly in a world of magic?
languid panther
I'm stupid
proper jasper
Ndhajdhajd
proper jasper
No way
languid panther
Crying
mortal cypress
omg silas episode is out for noctis
i know i said i wouldn’t watch until a daimon episode but silas is my babygirl i need to watch it…
normal sleet
What happened to English Dolly's corner? Why they throw out recipe and change normal size bio to "few facts about hero"? Chinese and Japanese versions didn't change.
proper jasper
They put the full english version in the community tab
Idk why they're not posting the full ones on socmed anymore tho 
normal sleet
They put the full english version in the community tab
thank you. i missed recipes too much.
coral zodiac
This appeared like 0.5 seconds and I just went "Is that Theowyn? 
"
Like
It has that hair bumps she has on the side and a little crown like the one she wears now, but not made out of vines-
silk widget
This appeared like 0.5 seconds and I just went "Is that Theowyn? <:rakuhmm:84904...
Your observation is on another level 👏
coral zodiac
Jehe, Ty 
I didn't realised it the first time I watched it, but I saw it when I was watching it on the tv with my sister
silk widget
Grez looks like a giant in that pic
coral zodiac
Snnfks yeah lol
languid panther
it must be her since shes next to edwin
coral zodiac
That person on her side I think it's her husband? (I don't remember if they were married)
proper jasper
thank you. i missed recipes too much.
Np! 
languid panther
yeah he was
coral zodiac
And after dropping the cup he ran towards Thoran
languid panther
thats why now im like wait
god do i have to just close discord to be able to focus
proper jasper
Oh yeah that looks like her husband
hot plinth
Pretty sure all 3 died that night right
silk widget
Pretty sure all 3 died that night right
Everyone died 😔
hot plinth
Well ya
hot plinth
but not all gbs died that night either
@proper jasper @languid panther
Oh sorry gabe
mortal cypress
shemira has to go comfort the sorrowful thats so sad 😭😭
hot plinth
Man i hate the thoran video now...not cause it wasnt good...cause every time i see him die and crown drops in game its so much more inpactful
Fuck lilith giving life to these awesome characters
languid panther
ive always liked thoran as a character im glad we got to see him in the animation
i got mad when i saw ping but its fine cause its lore
hot plinth
ive always liked thoran as a character im glad we got to see him in the animatio...
Indeed ya i dont ping unless its lore i apologize however not seeing you message in name regardless have fun writing my friend
trail kite
Shemira will be the emotional support GB
severe saffron
she is the emotional support for older players as the former top unit
trail kite
So... For me... kelthur is like melee assassination...
While Ferael is.. Range assassination
Or like sniper type for me
languid panther
he is a hitman now
LMAO HODDEN NO
proper jasper
Hm? No I didn't see it. Oh well no harm in posting twice
autumn pike
The reason why oden is in shackles, According to the chinese lore is the LB church that sentenced him to death.
Cecila was the main reason her husband (oden) was beheaded. She's now desperately trying to save herself / make up for her sins by killing for the Light bearer's church.
Sad, given that oden was a sweet heart and had nothing to do with any of that.
If you get to think about it.
The greater evil in esperia isn't really the graveborns, or the hypogeans; it's the light bearers themselves.
Take a look at lucious lore for exaple, the due killed his own daughter in pursuit of the light.
proper jasper
proper jasper
I feel bad for the ones with no knowledge about the lore coming here and seeing this
autumn pike
100% i wrote about the yas but had to delete it because i was literally falling asleep
I havent slept for like
Almost 2 days now
autumn pike
I feel bad for the ones with no knowledge about the lore coming here and seeing ...
Wdym ? These are lore tldr's for new comers
proper jasper
Eli don't troll the poor kids
autumn pike
🙁
languid panther
The reason why oden is in shackles, According to the chinese lore is the LB chur...
Eli I'm getting the gun
I already did a tldr about oden in taverns the other night
nova widget
The reason why oden is in shackles, According to the chinese lore is the LB chur...
Eluard Lore just pushes it even more on point.
Most devout and kindest member of the church but forsaken despite fervour - the divine light only shined on him when he went full inquisitor and went against his nature to blow up a town of heretics. The light isn't really kind or warm, it's stoic and judging.
languid panther
elis trolling but hes actually pretty close to the lore for once with it
i told him not to troll in lore chat only in main
@autumn pike come clean up your mess
proper jasper
Gabe don't ping him back he'll only make it worse 
languid panther
revenge for him in my dms while i was trying to fucking sleep
hot plinth
Eluard Lore just pushes it even more on point.
the only eluard lore is like Walker....they both suck belindas toes
vapid musk
I thought Walker is gay
proper jasper
Yeah he's dating Arthur
vapid musk
Arthur can wear furry suit for him
proper jasper
Ndhandhjahd
vapid musk
wink wink
proper jasper
languid panther
i dont like it in here
proper jasper
Too bad you're trapped in here w us
hot plinth
Too bad you're trapped in here w us
proper jasper
languid panther
no cause i can just go to my server and harass you there
hot plinth
Cant harass me!
proper jasper
hot plinth
its only a fight if youre on my radar at all
well you my friend ♥
trail kite
That's just a joke...
Cecilia husband is unknown
vapid musk
can't believe Eli somehow hooked someone with this trolling
random mantle
<:WAAAHsos:646205552493592586> can't believe Eli somehow hooked someone with thi...
IT MADE SENSE AT THE MOMENT IM SORRY FOR MY GULLIBILITY
vapid musk
SKGKGKGAKG IT'S OKAY
proper jasper
Dw we only blame Eli
coral zodiac
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dark heath
Lmao
hot plinth
Thanks as always! <:badenheart:756538933416034405>
Np
trail kite
Daimon is too wholesome
He wants to help his dad while both Niru and Shemira are busy
coral zodiac
they are so cute omg
proper jasper
Yes!
mortal cypress
daimon spotted
trail kite
He wants to share the cake with Stitchy
fossil sphinx
Maybe a vague question, but of all factions, from least evil to most, how are they ranked? Taking in account how they are or what the current playable heroes did or do
I heard that Wilders have no heroes that did anything bad, which i dont rly believe since usually with these things all sides have bad apples. So, wanted confirmation on that end too
vapid musk
I'm not sure if vengeance from Oku and Eorin are counted as bad thing or no
Like yeah they kill to protect forest
But they kill only those who participated in slave trade
vapid musk
But yeah Wilders is the most peaceful faction
vapid musk
Hmm kinda hard to choose
Wilders
Celestial/LB
Maulers
Graveborns
Demons
Smth like that
fossil sphinx
Uh, a friend of mine placed Celestials after Maulers
So maulers rly are that bad eh?
Well, i am using one who murdered her own kind queen xd
vapid musk
I'm highly unsure about middle part tbh
Like they all close for me in terms of baddiness lol
languid panther
The morality of the factions changes wildly depending on what other factions lens you look at them through
And consider that most of the factions are viewed through the lens of the Lightbearers
Also, most of the factions are full of like. people who are just vibing. just chilling. the game really only focuses on a handful of people from each one.
Most of the conflict that the maulers and LB even have is because of Quaedam antagonizing them through subterfuge in order to reap the rewards of both kingdoms killing each other so I wouldnt even put mauler as "evil" at all
Every single "tier list" Ive seen of the factions is laughably reductive
fossil sphinx
welll
Safyia seems one of the few then that is straight up evil
she kills for power. Literally only for that, from what i got by reading her bio
or am i reading things wrong?
crystal tapir
Yeah, no faction is wholly good or wholly evil.
Even the Hypogeans have Leofric who just wants to keep to himself.
And the Wilders have Eorin, who is pretty cruel and selfish.
The Celestials have Athalia who's as much of a knight templar as Cecilia if not more, and Wu Kong who's... well, he's the Monkey King. Chaotic Neutral incarnate.
And while the Dimensionals are mostly good, they have Mussolina (who eats people), Albedo (who's crazy and genocidal), and Ainz (who... I'm not entirely sure what his deal is).
fossil sphinx
tbh, kinda wish i didnt read Safyia's bio, she is one of my favorites design wise, but dunno if i wanna use such a evil one. I mean, kinda shitty move to do what she did xd
crystal tapir
Safiya's still pretty badass, though. Especially in the CN lore.
That "Falling Sun"? It's a black hole.
fossil sphinx
Cant use it if ur ded thou xd. The amount of times mine got killed mid charge is quite alot xd
crystal tapir
Most of the conflict that the maulers and LB even have is because of Quaedam ant...
Also, I thought it was Annih provoking them because he wanted to make a point to Dura that the LBs were getting out of control.
languid panther
who at me
languid panther
Also, I thought it was Annih provoking them because he wanted to make a point to...
you
hold on let me reread something
vapid musk
And the Wilders have Eorin, who *is* pretty cruel and selfish.
Well I kinda can understand why he's like this
He is not a type of "evil just because evil"
We have the whole ass traumatized child
languid panther
Also, I thought it was Annih provoking them because he wanted to make a point to...
Annih is long gone by the time the maulers and LB are at war
i just went through the lore book to make sure
crystal tapir
Oh right, I was thinking of why the Ya were created in the first place.
languid panther
Eorin wants to start a whole fucking war to try to end trafficking of the wilders, which doesnt even make sense
I understand his motives hes just not justified
languid panther
Oh right, I was thinking of why the Ya were created in the first place.
nah you good lol i wasnt sure myself
i only know bantus lore 100%
if it happened before the Lenu im like i dont fucking know let me go look it up
vapid musk
he just needs therapy and some common sense
The main problem is that the Thorn Vengeance should have refused to let him join their ranks. He was literally a child at this time.
But they not only let him join, but also give him too much freedom
Aaaand I think it was a mistake
fossil sphinx
As i said, i read Safyia's bio, but nothing else. is there one or more stories involving her?
vapid musk
Aaaand I think it was a mistake
This is, of course, just my opinion, but the adults in that organization should have paid more attention to him and perhaps give more moral support.
fossil sphinx
oh have you seen her chinese lore
no. Any place to see a translated version? xd
languid panther
no. Any place to see a translated version? xd
control + f or use the outline
the chinese lore is canon theres a lot w the older characters thats left out or just completely changed in english
i love safiya i really want them to do something w her
vapid musk
Okay now it looks like I justify Eorin damn it 
languid panther
no i get what youre saying its just the thorned vengeance doesnt really. give a fuck about whether they turn kids into killing machines or not
vapid musk
And that's kinda sad lol
languid panther
it was about time they made some questionable wilders
crystal tapir
As i said, i read Safyia's bio, but nothing else. is there one or more stories i...
Well, there is her Union story, but there's not much else there.
She teamed up with the Arachin tribe, I think she started sacrificing her own subjects to feed them, and agreed to help Ankhira kill Vurk.
But I could be mistaken on some things, been a while since I read the Union stories.
Especially the CN versions, and all characters involved there are from the era where they didn't really give a fuck about translation.
hot plinth
I need the nerds cause my guild has in their mind that Talene is the fire hero.....that is incorrect right? She never absorbed a rune as far as i remember.
proper jasper
I need the nerds cause my guild has in their mind that Talene is the fire hero.....
She's not the fire guardian no, nor a carrier of the fire emblem
She's an obsidian finch, and her fire is the solarian flare
hot plinth
thats what i tell them lol
and they like no you dumb she fire so she fire hero
and im like -.-
proper jasper
Ahdhjs yeah that's not right
Btw, that exact fire is the one Astar uses, she's a sprite of a type of flower that started blooming when Talene was reborn, the phoenix flower
hot plinth
solarian flame =/= fire
proper jasper
Solarian fire is basically like, special fire or smth lol
hot plinth
Btw, that exact fire is the one Astar uses, she's a sprite of a type of flower t...
yup she helped talene evolve right
proper jasper
Yep!
It's because they have the same kind of fire Astar was able to awaken her in the first place
fluid temple
There there probably won't be a fire hero since Talene represents fire.
She's not the fire guardian and she doesn't possess the fire emblem but we probably won't get another fire wielding hero since we already have one.
When they said last one I just thought they meant Baden.
languid panther
Yeah I mean she's part of the elemental party but she doesn't hold the emblem. I don't know if there will be a fire emblem holding hero
Like I have some theories
fluid temple
Wasn't the fire emblem corrupted or was that a different thing?
hot plinth
Talene had elemental war dream Ezizh got super horny cause of it and chased after her
languid panther
But they're more ephemeral than my theories on Baden
hot plinth
thats litterally all they are in accordance to the story
there are 5 elemental power rangers
earth fire wind water....hear.....i mean wood!
proper jasper
Wasn't the fire emblem corrupted or was that a different thing?
It's one theory based on an old Historic Venture, where the fire element was corrupted.
hot plinth
my head cannon still exists 😛
proper jasper
I think the fire guardian will make an appearance in the story, and that they will be important. I'm not sure they will awaken anybody though
fluid temple
It's one theory based on an old Historic Venture, where the fire element was cor...
I see.
hot plinth
Well even if the guardian is corrupted cough Khazard cough look at solice story the rune was just chilling
proper jasper
Yeah, it'd be anticlimactic if they just... fetched the emblem like they're out running errands ajdhsjsh
If the fire guardian is corrupted then that's a conflict they introduce to the story.
If they can just fetch the emblem without actually dealing with the corrupted guardian that's kinda 
to me
I hope I make sense lol my brain is all mush
hot plinth
oh you do
proper jasper
Yay!
hot plinth
he may be evil as well
instead of corrupted
well they may be evil
shouldnt assume its a male
would be cool if the fire guardian was a female too we have 3 and 1
males are Respen Granite (i think is male lol) and Khazard females are Mommy Milkers
was serius never officially made the water guardian or is he just a stand it of sorts....i kinda assume he wasnt since the water rune was just chilling in the forest
proper jasper
He is officially the water guardian, they confirmed that in Khazard's CN lore
hot plinth
then why wasnt he apart of solice story then
the guardians give the runes...or are suppose to
proper jasper
Probably couldn't fit him in the plot in a way that'd be thematically consistent?
hot plinth
i suppose unless they retconned it
proper jasper
I don't really see them doing that, though I could be wrong of course
hot plinth
like they retconned Thoran walking out of the underworld and grezhul waiting for him at the castle
proper jasper
I wouldn't say they retconned that, more like a visual interpretation or just them going ¯_(ツ)_/¯
I doubt that Baden broke free immediately too, or that the shadow thingy gave him his outfit and all
hot plinth
the og story is grezhul carryed him to a cemetary and ressurected him.....he def wouldnt be waiting at the castle if he did the ressurection
proper jasper
I'd say it's just artistic liberty, rather than an actual correction to the lore
coral zodiac
yeah
coral zodiac
like they retconned Thoran walking out of the underworld and grezhul waiting for...
tbh, I thought about this too and I took the possibility too that it's just not right after. Like, there is a little time skip that we don't see or something
proper jasper
Could be it yeah
It took three years for them to return iirc, I doubt the resurrection and walk back is all they did in that time
coral zodiac
Yeah
languid panther
I think it's also about what looks better in an animation
coral zodiac
Still, in the video the body of Edwin and some more that appear looks kinda fresh 
proper jasper
I think it's also about what looks better in an animation
Oh absolutely
coral zodiac
But others doesn't look like that edtgs<df
coral zodiac
I think it's also about what looks better in an animation
but yeah
languid panther
I wanted a trez cameo but here we are
coral zodiac
It still goes with the lore so 
proper jasper
Pat pat
coral zodiac
I saw Theo because I was making gifs gaesdf
proper jasper
Lol
languid panther
Should I make shittily drawn quick videos explaining afk lore but like. Funny
People like when I explain bantus but shitty
coral zodiac
You didn't saw me explaining stuff to Jin irl
proper jasper
Like Liu Li? 👀
languid panther
I had an out of body experience yesterday explaining why my parrot is named treznor at the Italian market
coral zodiac
It's very shitty, but somehow it's accuerate lmao
coral zodiac
I had an out of body experience yesterday explaining why my parrot is named trez...
sdfgerdf
I mean
languid panther
I wanted to kms
coral zodiac
I would def do the same
languid panther
I did not want to say the words afk arena a mobile gacha game
proper jasper
I'd honestly love seeing somebody sub Liu Li's videos, and make it accessible for the english fandom with permission
They are great videos
languid panther
They're funny
proper jasper
I had an out of body experience yesterday explaining why my parrot is named trez...
Rip
proper jasper
Oh like those storytime animations on yt?
proper jasper
Ndhsndbsndbsbbd
vale grove
well me too but yeah
coral zodiac
Yeah I look like that
languid panther
That was me and my sister yeah
vale grove
that's me with the Raynes
coral zodiac
That's me with Bantus
languid panther
Bantus yeah
proper jasper
That's me with the elemental storylines
I kinda want to do a poll on reddit, "pick a lore topic and I'll do a summary" like the post I did on the elemental storyline
languid panther
PLEASE
proper jasper
hot plinth
tbh, I thought about this too and I took the possibility too that it's just not ...
I suppose but you dont think....grezhul would wait by his king while he was ressurecting him to revive?
and didnt video have the kings corpse in teh castle as well
let me rewatch
coral zodiac
eeehhh I think I don't get what you are saying-
hot plinth
guess not sorry
Ok in the in game lore
grezhul got revived by th eyeball dude and finished off the assassins. After that he picked up thorans corpse and took it to a cemetary. And preformed the ressurection.
Thoran was ressurected in the underworld and walked out of it. And as you watch the video you see Grezhul waiting at the gates of the castle.
If the In game lore is correct....do you not think Grezhul would of waited by Thoran the whole time in the Cemetary? Why would he be waiting at the gates of the castle.
SPECIALLY if Grezhul did the ressurection
This is why i believe the in game lore was retconned if they want to make the video lore accurate
im not saying im right or your wrong either....im just trying to make sense of both
coral zodiac
Yeah, I think I get what you are saying?
My english doesn't want to work now srgerdsf
coral zodiac
hahaha 🤣
proper jasper
grezhul got revived by th eyeball dude and finished off the assassins. After tha...
I think there is a time skip going on. Thoran and Grez didn't immediately return to Bantus after his resurrection. My guess is that Grez went ahead with the GB forces to reclaim Bantus for Thoran, and when that's done Thoran comes back.
If they wanted to retcon it they'd to it in the lore book instead of a cinematic. Which they didn't, the lore book follows the previously established lore
hot plinth
But the lore says grrezhul killed off all remaing people before ressurecting thoran so wats there to claim
proper jasper
He killed off all the people in the room. He didn't go and murder every citizen in the entire kingdom
Besides, I think a new ruler was-
dawn quest
Aye.
proper jasper
@languid panther HEY BANTUS EXPERT
dawn quest
What's the question.
languid panther
WHO AT ME
proper jasper
dawn quest
His brother was going to take over, then Grez killed him iirc.
languid panther
No they all killed each other
proper jasper
So no ruler in the three year period
languid panther
5 year period
proper jasper
Sorry 5 years
languid panther
All the smaller vassal states just started cannibalizing each other in a power grab
Other kingdoms raided the empire
That's what trez and whurral were doing, defending what was left of bantus from outsiders looking to take advantage of the infighting
proper jasper
languid panther
From 998 to 1003
proper jasper
My memory is bad so I'd have to reference the lore book. But it's on the other side of the room and Gabe is a ping away so
Heh
languid panther
proper jasper
coral zodiac
Yeah it's a Hodden emote iirc
hot plinth
Baki needs lore book
crystal tapir
There isn't a Fire Emblem. Except for the one that all the anime swordfighters are in.
The Solaris Flare acts as the pure essence of fire in Esperia instead.
Imagine if they did decide to go with a fire emblem anyway, though... and gave it to the only faction that doesn't have an awakened hero yet: the Dimensionals.
#MarthForAFK
mortal cypress
There isn't a Fire Emblem. ~~Except for the one that all the anime swordfighters...
LMAOO
languid panther
Embla youre supposed to fucking be asleep
proper jasper
There isn't a Fire Emblem. ~~Except for the one that all the anime swordfighters...
There is a fire guardian, and since there is a fire guardian there is a fire emblem- I CANT SLEEP
crystal tapir
I do unironically think an FE dimensional would be cool though don't shoot me
proper jasper
Ahshsj I don't know it but I hope we get one for you
languid panther
i cant read when you do strikeout
hot plinth
My head cannon is what its gonna be im already calling it. Ezizh and his horniness for talenes dream will finnall catch up to her....they will fight and talene will lose and fall into a field of dreafs. She will in reality be the secret fire guaradian and will beatow dreaf with the fire rune and we will have....FIRE LORD DREAF!!!
hot plinth
And hopefully i will get some answers soon
@coral zodiac
I mean silas's video as far as i could tell was pretty accurate
hot plinth
@proper jasper where is it that edwin slit thorans throat
Nvm found ot
God even belinda dumb af
Lol
hot plinth
This moment i wanted to punch belinda
coral zodiac
Haha why?
vapid musk
Lmao
hot plinth
Yes i wanted to punch belinda lol
Ill get to that next part in a bit just want ywbb to say what he wants
Comon ywbb sput it out lol
Now the next part it will be a lil weird cause she cut me off
They red wedding thoran and his council
Not bursted in according to in game lore
coral zodiac
Kinda maybe in their defense, their story was one of the firsts
Like Lucius, they said one thing in his story and then another in his Dolly's corner
coral zodiac
I litterally know their own stoey better than them
Lol
hot plinth
Thats why i ultimally asked if they retconned the og story but linda wanted to try to argue their lore lol
coral zodiac
I forget a lot of things too, even if I don't want to 😂
autumn pike
Edwin was pushed by mortas to kill thoran.
Bad blood had existed between the two brothers when edwin was named king and thoran usurped the throne (refer to the chinese lore for more details).
Bantus was a mess, and internal conflict was inevitable. Given edwin was loved, respected and highly regarded by his peers.
Theowym had to marry someone she never liked ( a prince named gabe with strong connections to both edwin and thoran) in an attempt to prevent the internal strife that ended up happening regardless.
She was killed by grezhul while performing his spin to win attack seen in the latest graveborn animated story.
coral zodiac
Lmao
Tbh, I got it as they said in the second message of that pics when I saw the video
The one of "days after, and not immediately after"
hot plinth
I dont see it as days after...cause immediatelt after the attack grezhul took thorans body to the graveyard
Even if it was days after....the ressurection...why would thoran be in the underworld and as i said why would grezhul leave thorans side indont see grezhul doing that
Also union story
So lets go with the green eyeball didnt ressurect the green eyeball
He was ressurected by grezhul...and already had the spite and hatred as stated above
How did he go to the underworld....as a normal undead king.....be influenced by the green eyeball and regain the hate and spite.
Now if you say maybe the underworld scene happened visually as a representation of his death before he was ressurected
Ok....well then the union story is wrong....cause it says he reaurrscted him and knelt
Not resurrected him and went to bantus
There is too many differences....so one is right and the other is wrong they both cant be true at the same time.
vapid musk
damn I'm sad that they remove gb story from fb page
Because I think lost part was in this part of lore
coral zodiac
<:cutiemora:651251878587531294> damn I'm sad that they remove gb story from fb p...
Didn't they put it back on the book?
coral zodiac
Oh then I have a solution
I think I saw the other day the pdf where I had saved the gb stories of facebook
I don't have Mauler's because I was waiting for them to be finished
coral zodiac
<:cutiemora:651251878587531294> damn I'm sad that they remove gb story from fb p...
I got told that it was an accidental removal
Because Facebook erased that feature and everything got lost
and they were searching for another way to post it
HAHA I HAVE IT
vapid musk
Oh got it
I just remember there were something about this situation but my memory is kinda like cheese 
Oh well so I was kinda wrong and kinda right
The only question is why there were Edwins dead body
Because it seems like there truly was some kind of timeskip
coral zodiac
yeah!
coral zodiac
yeah
That would explain why was Grezhul waiting at the doors of Bantus, and the army of undead warriors that goes with Thoran, and the ones that rise as he passes by
I think
hot plinth
Not really...cause he still reserruected rode out of the underworld and rode towards bantus and dead soldier were raised....grezhul woukd of still been there
coral zodiac
Oh well so I was kinda wrong and kinda right
The only question is why there were...
Yeah, but then Thoran went through cemeteries resurrecting people?
hot plinth
On his way to bantus.....right after he was ressurected
coral zodiac
coral zodiac
Oh I forgot!
I have it too compressed below 8mbs if anyone wants it to save it on another discord server or something
just lmk
hot plinth
About
proper jasper
Belinda is not being dumb, you're just overthinking this way too much.
hot plinth
Well she was
About edwin not slashing throans throat
But i got official answer
You ready @proper jasper
@coral zodiac @vapid musk
coral zodiac
hot plinth
proper jasper
Yeah that's what we tried to tell you
coral zodiac
That's what I thought geadsfd
hot plinth
No you all lept saying green eye didnt rez thoran
coral zodiac
wait what
proper jasper
I didn't comment on that part, I thought it was obvious that Grez set up the ritual to connect to Quaedam
hot plinth
Yall kept arguing it was grez
vapid musk
Lmao
Literally what I thought
He went earlier to city
hot plinth
I didn't comment on that part, I thought it was obvious that Grez set up the rit...
Thats what ibsaid
vapid musk
Where
proper jasper
vapid musk
I literally only said that there were a timeskip
hot plinth
Originnally rhen people kept saying no no it was grez
tawdry holly
Grez dn
vapid musk
hot plinth
Ya grez made the connectiin the ritual but he doesnt have the lower to ressurect.
As i orignnallu said
I said quaedem did it
coral zodiac
I need to highlight something brb
proper jasper
proper jasper
I give up
hot plinth
What i say wrong
vapid musk
bruh I told ya there were some kind of timeskip do Grezhul near gate make sense
hot plinth
<:areyouseirus:663985754438893610> bruh I told ya there were some kind of timesk...
Im not on that part yet lol
But yes tou were right
And same @coral zodiac
Grezhul seeks the ressurection
Grezhil preform the ritual as stated quaedem ressurects
proper jasper
Yes. That's. What. We. Said
vale grove
Honeslty I don't get what you're trying to point out
hot plinth
Not.everyone.said.that.and.i.was.made.to.feel.stupid.saying.otherwise.by.those.that.argued
coral zodiac
what? 
hot plinth
Honeslty I don't get what you're trying to point out
I was orginnally right and others argued and told.me im wrong
Making me feel like inwas an idiot
vale grove
I was orginnally right and others argued and told.me im wrong
right with what
coral zodiac
I didn't argued? 
hot plinth
Didnt say you
coral zodiac
I was just pointing out possible explanations?
If it sounded as if I was arguing that wasn't my intention 
hot plinth
Not at all buddy
Embla wasnt either...id have to scroll up to say whom i cant memeber name
proper jasper
Give me a second I've gone through it
hot plinth
- An extra editin of the traitors outside and thoran being stabbed instead of being dragged and his throat slit
And 3. I just couldnt see grez leaving thorans side....but if he did he did
Specially after this
vapid musk
He didn't leave him? He just preparing "party" for his return 😉
proper jasper
What was said against you, was that Grezhul had the power to resurrect. And that he performed the ritual. What you said, was that he didn't. Now both of these are half-truths. Grezhul did have the power to set up a ritual to call for Quaedam, not do the resurrection itself. What you then said, was that this retconned the story, which is false. That's what you kept arguing. That Quaedam resurrected Thoran with no initiative from Grez, and that Grez did not wait for him at the graveyard. That's what we came in and made a point for.
coral zodiac
He didn't leave him? He just preparing "party" for his return 😉
serger
hot plinth
I was corrected and apologised
proper jasper
That you did yes
hot plinth
I forgot about the union story so i read it as grezhul didnt have the power to ressurect and was searching for a way
So completely my fault
So the video is about 99% correct
They prolly just took the liberty of having somones throat slit for a shadow of him being stabbed
Let me ask im curious why that was changed acctually
proper jasper
Then I sent the document with the CN versions
hot plinth
I know im sorry 😞
proper jasper
Hey it's alright. I think we all got a little riled up
simple wedge
lore chat drama
hot plinth
For sure...i just want to be accurate is all
coral zodiac
I know im sorry 😞
Dw! It's ok! 
hot plinth
And you all help me 🙂
coral zodiac
For sure...i just want to be accurate is all
I completely understand it lol
I usually try too search reasons to interconnect everything haha
proper jasper
Ngl this inspires me to finally send that question to Belinda abt the Mauler war I've been sitting on
hot plinth
Same!! It just didnt make sense to me specially seeing grez at bantus a timeskip would make alot of sense cause i just throught it was a whole like sorta day if that of events.
coral zodiac
They prolly just took the liberty of having somones throat slit for a shadow of ...
I mean it's like
On english version, Grezhul died because he was overwhelmed and cuz of several wounds
On chinese, he was stabbed in the back
And on the video I think it's a spear through his chest?
proper jasper
So many ways to kill Grez ajdhajhdjs
hot plinth
Grez is a loyal af soldier that never leaves his side
hot plinth
I mean it's like
On english version, Grezhul died because he was overwhelmed and...
Lol true grez is a beast
coral zodiac
I love him haha
hot plinth
The bro took an arrow for thoran that grazed him but was poisoned
coral zodiac
yeah lol
languid panther
Ngl this inspires me to finally send that question to Belinda abt the Mauler war...
Do it
languid panther
I'm tired
coral zodiac
do it! you don't have anything to lose with trying
hot plinth
Which is ok prolly just an artistic decision or maybe a lil too grusome for youtube
Though having a sword though the chest isnt much better lol
hot plinth
Gotcha
autumn pike
Grez was killed that night, he came back to life because he had unresolved feelings for thoran.
Thats why it's often recommended you speak your mind and not bottle shit up.
Otherwise you'd find yourself walking the earth again as a graveborn.
Luckily for us, this doesn't happen in the real world. There is something known as the Internet ( namely reddit and discord) ; Most of the bottled up shit we have goes there.
tawdry holly
coral zodiac
UNRESOLVED FEELINGS FOR THORAN HELP
proper jasper
hot plinth
Grez was killed that night, he came back to life because he had unresolved feeli...
For sure grez has an undying loyalaty and king booty fixation.
coral zodiac
That 2nd half of that sentence got me
hot plinth
Let me rephrase that lol
coral zodiac
You got Gaius'd?
hot plinth
Just like talene thay has 2 hypos that have the hots for her. One thats wants to bang her dreams and the other that wants to eat her.
coral zodiac
LMAO
hot plinth
Tell me im wrong
proper jasper
Lol not wrong-
vale grove
Lol not wrong-
fdaghdfk where is that from? I need to know 
proper jasper
It's an extra from the Talene comic lol. It's a shame they didn't translate them
vale grove
noooooooo 
hot plinth
Omg lol
proper jasper
Also here's the full version
proper jasper
Think it's "100 ways to defeat Talene"
coral zodiac
Also here's the full version
lmaooo
vale grove
omggggg
vale grove
Also here's the full version
hot plinth
proper jasper
I'll just dump the links so you guys can look at the high-res images
https://manga.bilibili.com/detail/mc31021
hot plinth
Awesome ty
proper jasper
ruby gazelle
lore
proper jasper
Lore jumpscare
languid panther
You came into our house
ruby gazelle
idk shit about lore
tawdry holly
idk shit about lore <:feelstreeman:668592916041695274>
Ulmus is a tree
ruby gazelle
at least i know that gbs are ded
tawdry holly
And you're wrong, they are living deds
proper jasper
tawdry holly
ruby gazelle
close enough
languid panther
why yall in my house
proper jasper
Get the broom
languid panther
no im getting the gun
ruby gazelle
ruby gazelle
languid panther
GET
hot plinth
at least i know that gbs are ded
Are they though define dead
languid panther
ruby gazelle
dead like dead yk?
hot plinth
Dead would mean they cease to exist
ruby gazelle
proper jasper
We do have a legal definition of death so
hot plinth
We do
proper jasper
hot plinth
dead
/ded/
adjective
1.
no longer alive.
"a dead body"
All gb are alive so def not dead
dawn quest
Arguably.
proper jasper
A Graveborn can't realistically exist so trying to apply rl definitions is kinda
dawn quest
But what really defines life?
proper jasper
Deep
coral zodiac
...undead?
proper jasper
Yup
languid panther
I hate this chat
mortal cypress
I hate this chat
me too
fluid temple
You exist therefor you are alive
So everything that exists is alive?
Like gel pens?
Or books?
dawn quest
Can life truly be defined.
hot plinth
So everything that exists is alive?
no
dawn quest
Plants "live" yet differ from us completely.
Simultaneously though they do not possess conscious thought the way that we as humans do.
hot plinth
things die to create those that you listed therefor gel pens and books are dead
dawn quest
But in order to be "dead" you must have lived.
hot plinth
correct
dawn quest
Graveborn trapeze the line between life and death.
As do all things undead.
Not quite dead.
hot plinth
where do you think ink plastic gel paper all come from
dawn quest
where do you think ink plastic gel paper all come from
That is getting into semantics. Is a rock dead? It is not made of living material. Never was.
hot plinth
ex·ist·ence
/iɡˈzistəns/
Learn to pronounce
noun
the fact or state of living or having objective reality.
it has to be alive to exist
dawn quest
One could easily argue that a pen, being made of plastic, being made of oil, being made from billion year old corpses, could theoretically count as dead.
"Dead", anyway.
hot plinth
welll if you create something from dead material then yes its still dead
dawn quest
Isn't it?
If I were to take the ribs of a cow and use it to reinforce a piece of leather armor, is the armor dead?
Sure it was created from something dead.
hot plinth
yes
the armor doesnt have cells the armor isnt animated there for it has no existance it just is
well i take that back
its half dead
the iron or steel to create the armor is still alive
hot plinth
ok then its dead
hot plinth
ignore that lol
dawn quest
They do not.
hot plinth
correct sorry that have mineral grains but arent cells
dawn quest
In summary: Life isn't real. Death is obscure. Party hard and live your life to its best.
🥂
hot plinth
^this
dawn quest
fluid temple
thorn ridge
Nice afk lore
languid panther
Yeah this channels a mess
hot plinth
I kinda hope talene and the 5 power rangers will have a like a union story
Or at least the 5 power rangers and maybe talene and ezizh could have a union story
vapid musk
proper jasper
Thank you!
autumn pike
autumn pike
no
languid panther
JDHKSFHJSD ASTAR
autumn pike
accurate data
languid panther
Crying
autumn pike
ye
languid panther
Eli I hate this
vapid musk
Poor Oden tho
languid panther
Except trez
dawn quest
languid panther
Idk dude is being cringe tryna say you're cringe I think
dawn quest
Shem is a canonical alcoholic.
dawn quest
I concur.
languid panther
Baden is also a canonical alcoholic
autumn pike
there has been an episode in which her and niru were drinking blood
just esperia thing
languid panther
Since we're just saying whatever I guess
Just esperia things is canon now
Do whatever
autumn pike
that nara emote is cute
vapid musk
Mathematic scares shit out of gb is canon then
autumn pike
he doesnt like chicken.
dawn quest
He would.
vapid musk
And mosaic one
dawn quest
Oh. That reminds me.
vapid musk
dawn quest
In game you feed your characters in the Hunting Grounds and whatnot with meat.
Thus meaning they can all eat.
Even... Oden...
autumn pike
In game you feed your characters in the Hunting Grounds and whatnot with meat.
no. that's beef
dawn quest
Hm.
vapid musk
How Oden eats then
autumn pike
i gotta make a tier list for beef soon !
dawn quest
That is the question isn't it.
languid panther
God baden makes me act abnormal
We could have had trez in the noctis animation style.
Every day I think about thay
languid panther
I think I would have had to be hospitalized
vapid musk
We need tier list of favourite drinks
dawn quest
Any characters.
vapid musk
Fell ya
autumn pike
Heroes in AE / HF would eat beef to
dawn quest
I'm not complaining about Thoran, the family, and Desira. But.
autumn pike
perform actions
languid panther
They did the bantus crew and FORGOT TREZ
dawn quest
Mhm.
languid panther
Desira isn't even from bantus
languid panther
Why wasn't it theowyn
dawn quest
Xactly.
proper jasper
I'm so confused abt Gabe and Eli w your pfps
languid panther
I know I keep getting scared and thinking I'm talking and not remembering its me
vapid musk
Eironn likes cakes with blackberry
Especially made in kitchen of Rayne house
autumn pike
i have the prettier treznor
vapid musk
proper jasper
Yes!
languid panther
I can't argue with that because then I'd be dissing embla
dawn quest
My Treznor pfp is the better of the three.
autumn pike
exactly 😉
proper jasper
NO I MEANT cake
languid panther
Come get a trez pfp
dawn quest
I'm rocking one as we speak.
vapid musk
So you're okay of dissing me
dawn quest
Thicc slime Trez.
languid panther
WHAT
vapid musk
proper jasper
Bdbdkdbdksjd
languid panther
MLINA WHAT ARE TKU TELAKING ABOUT
languid panther
I wouldn't argue w Eli about having the prettier trez bc then I'd be dissing emblas art
dawn quest
Keep it up.
proper jasper
No I'm nice
languid panther
No I'm confused
dawn quest
Gonna make Mlina into a Graveborn.
proper jasper
Deep
languid panther
Eli shut the fuck up
vapid musk
Igzkgskbzkhsh
autumn pike
on the inside at least D: .
dawn quest
But what really is "dead"...
proper jasper
languid panther
I'm leaving
vapid musk
We talked with embla about cakes
proper jasper
autumn pike
But what really is "dead"...
dead is like. the state of this chat after gabe decides to leave 😦 ❤️ @languid panther 😘
proper jasper
Ndjskfjsk
vapid musk
Sjajcajfaj
Yes
dawn quest
autumn pike
okay ill go back to french
autumn pike
🥐
dawn quest
Simultaneously the worst.
proper jasper
Oui baguette
autumn pike
🥖
dawn quest
Yes bread.
vapid musk
I think I'm already dead
It's so cold here
proper jasper
It's so cold here too
autumn pike
i have my tea ;P
proper jasper
Lore topics
autumn pike
they drink herbal tea
dawn quest
Fire.
vapid musk
Good for th- NO
proper jasper
Two kinds of people
dawn quest
I'm right.
autumn pike
i mean, so many plants there? i can't be wrong
dawn quest
"Build a man a fire he'll be warm for the night, set a man on fire and he'll be warm for the rest of his life."
proper jasper
Well you're not wrong-
autumn pike
I just noticed that if you remove the E, and last 2 Ns you'll be left with IRO
dawn quest
dawn quest
that's awsome lmo
Iro*
autumn pike
ye that's iro
dawn quest
👄
vapid musk
Scary shit
proper jasper
dawn quest
Yes.
vapid musk
proper jasper
dawn quest
simple wedge
"Build a man a fire he'll be warm for the night, set a man on fire and he'll be ...
people in 2050:this famous quote by the one and only random internet person explains the struggle the man has to go through in order to achieve was he desired, and it is neither warmth nor death, but rather love. the love he finally experienced was too overwhelming it took over the man's body
hot plinth
Just stab everyone and take over a castle and be ressurected and kill all those that killed you and resurrect them to kill you again....a cycle of death for eternity.
simple wedge
Tell me, Raku Enthusiast, have you ever been in love?
define love
proper jasper
Baby don't hurt me
dawn quest
Don't hurt me.
proper jasper
Lmfao
dawn quest
No more.
simple wedge
what
hot plinth
Night at the roxbury (correction )bro with will farrel
simple wedge
i dont believe so then, no.
languid panther
Yeah leaving again
vapid musk
hot plinth
Yeah leaving again
Why 
coral zodiac
This was such an experience to read
ruby gazelle
dawn quest
Helping.
autumn pike
If canissa and ruke were out in public.
And they farted; which one would take the blame ?
Same question applies to torne.
mortal cypress
If canissa and ruke were out in public.
And they farted; which one would take th...
since they share a body, they must share a digestive system, meaning its all their fault they farted
languid panther
Eli I hate you so fuckinf much you shouldn't have a pfp that looks so close to mine
I don't want people confusing us
@autumn pike why are you even awake it's like 3 am for you
autumn pike
<@364138030128431105> why are you even awake it's like 3 am for you
I cant get my self to sleep
digital crow
truly
languid panther
Aaaa they're so cute
hot plinth
Yes they are
Im truly honestly happy to see a non heterosexual couple even if lilith have to slightly alter it....its adorable as hell and thane and baden are both awesome heroes
fluid temple
I didnt grab the other one 😦
Is this it?
I just grabbed this today.
hot plinth
Yessum
fluid temple
I love them.
hot plinth
I accidently sent it off before SS lol
fluid temple
LOL.
hot plinth
I was like fuck i cant see the lil lore bit anymore
hot plinth
Lol ya it is
fluid temple
hot plinth
I d9nt think its all the tine but they have lil fun joke oncw in awhile
For better or worse lilith maybe be a whale company but they have a strong and amazing story built and they are adding animations to it....they do alot more than most mobile rpgs thats for sure
fluid temple
Yeah.
I've been going through the lore to set up an AU with an internet friend and it's just so interesting and there's so much to go through.
hot plinth
At this point id advise getting the art book
languid panther
I've been going through the lore to set up an AU with an internet friend and it'...
Oh an au huh 👀
Tell me
hot plinth
Cause he's a "doctor" lmao
Lol right
Lilith does some cute silly things always brings a smile
fluid temple
Cause he's a "doctor" lmao
HA!
fluid temple
Tell me
It's just an AFK Arena AU with our characters in the world of Esperia.
That we'll probably RP at some point in time.
languid panther
STOPPINGING ME
hot plinth
Au = alternate univers?
fluid temple
Yes.
languid panther
Sorry I'm trying to set up for aw baden drop
Dm me if you want to talk AUs
I'm so anxious
fluid temple
Ok.
fluid temple
I've been going through the lore to set up an AU with an internet friend and it'...
I'm making sure to use the character lore from the translated Chinese lore doc.
More accurate.
Aside from the main story,faction lore and individual character lore,is there anything I need to include?
hot plinth
Cause inkeeps comming back to me as who could be the fire hero and 1 specific hero cones to mind
And @proper jasper showing those comics while cute and funny... could be onto something possibly...
What hero is the essense of fire...anger hatred rage desire who seeks power... and what comes to mind is framton....and yes i get hes super new like not even a year old....but it woukd bring the story back full circle as well....
languid panther
dont ping embla were both setting up to pull awbaden rn
hot plinth
Framton while seeking out power could kill thr fire guardian....and take the fire rune for himself....thus in turn....become the fire elemental hero....and fight with eveyone...
fluid temple
Would he eat the fire emblem?
hot plinth
Yes
hot plinth
dont ping embla were both setting up to pull awbaden rn
Whats there to build lol
coral zodiac
Has anyone saw this?
They are putting cool stuff in the profile linked to the new mail tab, such as heroes months bdays each month
And apparently they say too the name of the month in Esperia with constellations?
Messimon (September) - Constellation: Longhorn
Luxmon (October) - Constellation: Lover Duck
Auramon (November) - Constellation: Ancora
vapid musk
Can we assume that it's their sign?
Imagine being lover duck
hot plinth
Can we assume that it's their sign?
Imagine being lover duck
So youd be rowan
hot plinth
simple wedge
baden goes hard for thane's wood
proper jasper
Wh
hot plinth
Wh?
hot plinth
Oh goose bumps
FUCKING AMAZING
Sorry for 0 sound
Wait let me rerecord
Here we go horizontal
Etf
hot plinth
Can't wait to get the full one <a:turbongosolise:666087090387156993>
btw did you read my theory
i acctually di put alot of thought into it
proper jasper
Oh gimme a sec
hot plinth
i accutally talked some what lengthy about with Belinda
i doubt she knows who the fire hero will be but i spoke to them about my theory
proper jasper
Hmmm, it's an interesting theory. The obvious aside (that Framton is way too new to be awakened) it could serve as a subplot should they raise the stakes in the elemental storyline. Aka Framton is not awakened, but he does intrude on the elemental gang's plan by essentially killing the fire guardian. Or, he is empowered, but not as a playable character, instead he's a boss.
However, the main villain is Ezizh, and that will have to fit into the plot as well.
hot plinth
See thats a good twist too i thought of that as well. cause I was originnally thinking of maybe the fire hero would get the rune but then turn out to be evil. But then i thought of how the Wood Rune healed Baden....making him less dead.....so thought if like say Framton ate the rune cause its the essence of fire and he devours fire.....maybe some how from the inside it would change him to good.
Cause the real question is could a hypo become good.
proper jasper
The Wood Emblem didn't change anybody's personalities, so I don't think it would make him good. It only changes the physical body
hot plinth
They way I also think about it and GB are essentially evil especially those controlled by Quaedem as he influnces them. And Baden broke free of that.
I know hypos are essentially demons or essences of demons who control a host ie Khazard and Lucretia. So its on a total different level...and Framton as far as i am aware is 100% demon.
proper jasper
He broke free from that long before he got the Wood Emblem. In his story you read about him travelling around and visiting the Island after he escaped.
proper jasper
Framton, and many other hypos, are essentially an embodiment of certain flaws/obsession. Framton is the embodiment of mortal being's desire for fire, and Idk if him or any of those hypos would ever be able to go against the very nature of what they are. I'd like to see them try their hands at such a plot though.
proper jasper
but he was still corrupted
Are you talking abt the shadow?
hot plinth
Are you talking abt the shadow?
eyeball in chest
proper jasper
He wasn't corrupted at all
That's just a part of his design, it's not mentioned at all in his lore ever.
hot plinth
I see Framton as the embodiment one of the 4 horsemen, Famine. He is always hungry and nothing ever satisifies his hunger.
proper jasper
proper jasper
Yeah he does
hot plinth
and he always hungers for it
he ate all of the pheonix flowers and all of the Solarians right?
iirc
cept for Talene and Astar
proper jasper
Yep. Because he's craves fire due to the nature of his being
Since he's the embodiment of that desire, he cannot ever be satisfied. As that would go against his nature
vale grove
yep