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lapis stag
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map from some website for chinese players

proper jasper
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New Wilder, looks a bit similar to Respen? elethathink

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Also next awakened is apparently Wilder and a girl! And will likely share a connection with this person if previous trends will continue

lapis stag
covert jasper
proper jasper
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?

proper jasper
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Someone pointed out he looks like Ira! Relative maybe?

rustic copper
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how are Zafrael and Kalena related?

rustic copper
rustic copper
pseudo karma
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i hope for awaken solise

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tasi is tasee. She's already what she is, can go into dream realm etc. It's enough.
While Solise is more classy, would more benefit of a 2nd version ans is more connected to the love of forest

rustic copper
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Lilith continues to feed us horny content.

timber tide
minor osprey
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AYO RESPENS BROTHER

vapid musk
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Why, he looks more like Iras brother

orchid plaza
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Concept hero:
Ulima- the illusive void
Faction: hypogean
Class : mage
Primary role : debuffer

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Skills:

  1. soul sever
    Ulima choose the enemy who did the most damage until now ,  she suck out the soul of enemy and freeze the enemy in void . The victim cannot move and the soul  can use basic attacks . The soul only can be attacked by ulima and takes extra magic damage from ulima , if the soul die during this skill, the enemy dies too .
    Ulima will not use her other Skills during this time and only attack the soul severed enemy .ulima can't use this skill for several seconds after casting it even if she has full energy.
    2)void shift field
    Ulima creates a medium circle at the place which have the most enemies, if the enemies step in the circle an illusion of the enemy will summon behind him , attacking it . The illusion can only attack their own original enemy, and will die after certain attacks of enemy .
    If the enemies move further than some point the illusion fade away and enemy will freezes in time for 2 seconds .
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3)illusion orbs
Ulima basic attacks now trun into magical orbs with deals extra damage. Ulima can use this skill when attacking the soul severed enemy,  and deals extra damage to them with this kind of attacks .
This attack can be used even when ulima is silenced.
4)ultimasphere
At the start of each battle ulima creates a small sphere around her for 20 seconds.  that can protect allies that are in circle too .
While in sphere she cannot be attack by enemies and only take damage from Skills.
Enemies who step in the sphere will be slowed . If she is on her soul severed skill enemies cannot target her and she is immune to disables during soul sever skill while she is in sphere.
The allies can only be protected from basic attacks of enemies.

Signature item :
Ulima haste increased while she is in ultimasphere.

Oak Inn;
3/9 : ulima takes reduced damage from enemies Skills while in ultimasphere
9/9 :if ulima kills the soul severed enemy, the ultimasphere duration increases .

orchid plaza
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Why op ?

rustic copper
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by the way, if the new hero is Ira's brother, then perhaps the arc of the twilight watchers will go now and Lika will be awakened.

zinc cradle
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I’d love to see an Awakened Solise, but I don’t think she’ll be the one

silk widget
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@orchid plaza love the art. One suggestion is to add some tentacles to make it fit with the void theme warekheart

crystal tapir
crystal tapir
orchid plaza
# crystal tapir I like the design. I'm trying to think of what allies she'd work well with... Th...

Thanks this was really a fantastic feedback!
Actually soul sever skill make the enemy more vulnerable for ulima , the lore which I'm writing explains that ulima in not from matter universe , she is made of Ultima which is a mixture of light, Void and other electromagnetism waves
That's why she is the only one that can attack soul severed enemy, when she soul sever an enemy she enter the enemy into Ultima universe whereas the enemy is weaker and is made of Ultima , so that's why yhe enemy cannot use material things and other allies cannant attack it .
Her weapon is actually what makes her in touch with matter universe , she forms like a human,having clothes because of the weapon, she is like an energy in Ultima universe , she cannot talk , she can only make some waves with different frequency, she canny either hear! But she can see the ultima of enemies which is the primary material that made them , the Ultima state of the enemy is various , for example when the enemy is soul severed she state of Ultima comes really high that's why she only attacks the soul severed target because its .

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the most safe target for her

For Skills :
Ultima can be a huge damage dealer if you put her in a huge cc and support team , she locks on a enemy , with sig item even fighting the enemies faster with illusion orbs, dealing damage to them .
The other role she can have is cc also . She literally soul severs the most damage dealer of enemy team, the enemy can only use basic attacks , which is a huge cc
Also her other skill which is called "void shift", make self illusion of enemies to fight them , she can control enemies to fight their illusion instead of your team, the only counter for this skill is enemies that can move like antandra , athahlia, ...... , which make the illusion fade away but also mini stun them .
Ultimasphere honestly is her best skill, it's a powerful one which even make the special better,Ulima is nothing without Ultimasphere,the duration of Ultima can be increased by killing enemies which makes her remain your carry until the end of the match,immune to disables make her really a beast
So what I can say she is a magic Canon if she build as a carry comp .
But earlier because she is hypogean is little bit hard to acsended, you can use her as a cc first .

She looks op on in paper but I have reasons to say not !
One of reason is that she is not immune to enemy skill which are aoe, she is untargetable enemies like nara cannot hook her ,but for example ainz, scarlet can easily kill her with aoe skills .
She also is immune to disables not other debuff !
Disables include stun, silence and freeze or anything similar .
So she can still getting knockback which can be a counter for her because she may be knock back outside of sphere .
But i think with right teams she can be really strong , she is also fun to use , her skill animation can be good

rustic copper
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what do you think will happen in the Dura revival event?

shadow plinth
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Thane had a draft of his character, whom had both arms still

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With daimon's skin, there was a draft of stitchy being a snowman

lapis stag
shadow plinth
# lapis stag

Gonna drop the whole lore? Gotta make em work for it😈

lapis stag
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i dont have more

shadow plinth
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Is that not from the book?

silk widget
lament meadow
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i have shitty pictures of the whole timeline but i think posting too much content from an exclusive artbook would get me banned lol

silk widget
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I'm planning to scan the whole book to share it with everyone when mine came.

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@lament meadow pls post whatever you want. warekheart

crystal tapir
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WAHOO!

fluid temple
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Nice!

lament meadow
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SIKE all i have is mezoth /j

silk widget
rustic copper
silk widget
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Just read the first page and it's clear that the majority if not all of the hypogean heroes are not created by Annih.

rustic copper
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you don't have to thank me.

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I am not the author of this file. but I won't read it until I buy an artbook in person.

silk widget
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Still appreciate for sharing. I'm reading right now, i'm not patient enough to wait for my own art book to arrive lol. I ordered mine on the 19th and they still have not shipped them out yet

silk widget
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Scarllet seems to be one of thr sin bearer. She has a patch of red hair and bears a curse as bloodline.

sand canopy
silk widget
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Eng translation never fail..... tiduslaugh

sand canopy
vapid musk
silk widget
vapid musk
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Oh elethathink

silk widget
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Just finished reading the pdf shared earlier. The first half is excellent, but the second half is mostly just repeated content of the first half or just stuff that we already know.

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I want to know more about lutos, uemis and gouldos. Whether uemiss and gouldos are just the same cosmic entity

normal sleet
rustic copper
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No needed

silk widget
# rustic copper Who they are?

Lutos = dark star realm's sleeping king, honas's archenemy... uemiss = lutos's right hand man, the one who has corrupted Khazard.

rustic copper
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it turns everything around. it turns out...floradeadeyes

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it turns out there is something that stands above annih, which means their union with dura is a matter of time. or things are not like that at all, and Annih is also corrupted by him.

covert jasper
covert jasper
rustic copper
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Volume 2-concept art. in fact, only 1 is important for lore.

covert jasper
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yeah thats right

solid iron
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Do human-Ya hybrids exist within Esperia?

sturdy forge
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Strictly lore wise,

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Is it true that baden has gained his memories now

glad ruin
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Yes. Strictly speaking, because of translation stuff, he probably never really lost them in the first place after awakening from the necromancer’s control

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Also new Dolly Corner on Lucius is out

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They still aren’t including age

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I’m seething like you wouldn’t believe

coral zodiac
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I'm kinda sad that they didn't included the age

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I hc him having 26

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Also, his height was changed
In the heights sheet, he was 191cms and now 185cms

rustic copper
vapid musk
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Also Kid is hot

coral zodiac
silk widget
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Dolly's corner talked about Lucius, and that new piece of lore looks identical to Lucius's cn lore, lol. You might recall I reported that Lucius had 2 different versions of his lore in cn, one was identical to the eng lore, and the other is the above.

proper jasper
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Wait he had two different stories in cn? I thought he only had the above elethathink

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Also this reminds me, I checked Thane's cn story a little while ago in-game, and it seems they added a line about his investigation, which I don't remember seeing in the doc

silk widget
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We dicussed this issue before. Lilith probably updated Lucius's lore with a newer version to reflect his character better, but never bother to do so with the eng lore, hence we see 2 different versions of his lores

proper jasper
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That would make a lot of sense actually. I wonder how many other stories were given the same treatment. Maybe Numisu's too? elethathink

sturdy forge
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Someone said something like, since baden has finally regained consciousness,

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It's unclear if he is the gb awakened

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Like, thane didn't want him to awaken or smth

proper jasper
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Yeah he always had his consciousness (after breaking free), according to lore at least (the mini-comic implies otherwise but Idk how lore accurate it is).
Why wouldn't Thane want him to awaken though?

solid iron
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Are there any known human-Ya hybrids in Esperia?

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Whether it be the offspring of a human and a Ya.

silk widget
trail kite
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Eorin lore?

covert jasper
proper jasper
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Anybody have Eorin's story?

covert jasper
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well npbody usually cares when it gets out the hero

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its for them the skip skip next part

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hold on just a bit longer

vapid musk
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Ooops

vapid musk
proper jasper
vapid musk
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His story hurt my feelings, poor boy rosalinesad

proper jasper
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Yes thanecry

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On another note, I really love how Oku keeps adopting misfit Wilders

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Best dad

vapid musk
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Yeah!

covert jasper
vapid musk
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tasssi 💞

rustic copper
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Is he related to saurus?

trail kite
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Oku is the best dad

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also I want to pat Eorin

silk widget
vapid musk
rustic copper
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then who is it about in his story? Eorin moved Eyron in this regard by the fact that he has the same weapon as Saurus.

vapid musk
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Now I a little bit curious and confused with timeline

proper jasper
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Me too, the timeline for the present time seems a little here and there

proper jasper
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Any theories on how this can tie into the awakened Wilder story?

rustic copper
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Oku,mishka and eorin related to e.o?

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I think it's an omen to twilight watchers arc

silk widget
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My art book has arrived lol

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It's fuking huge.

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I'm gonna skim reading everything tonight to see if there is anything new

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And I'll try to scan both of the books to share with everyone in here. But I never done a full book scan before, and I dont have a scanner

lament meadow
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that coke can scares me what if theres still soda in there

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i think you can scan with your phone but its tricky

silk widget
covert jasper
covert jasper
normal sleet
trail kite
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Yes he is

trail kite
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coming soon

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HANDSOME

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Translate by google translate
"Sword and Expedition" 🌟 Laurel Tavern EP.7 🌟 Official Certification - Super handsome and handsome man

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the description

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===官方認證-超帥氣美男子===
『官•方•認•證』
帥到發狂的三大美男子!
除了這三位!冒險者覺得誰最帥呢?
translate by google translate
===Official certification - super handsome and handsome man ===
"Official certification"
Three maddening handsome men!
Except for these three! Who do adventurers think is the most handsome?

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Three of them are the most handsome

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GB handsome...but Ferael is most handsome

silk widget
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Gotta be Torne tidussnout

quiet tinsel
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Obviously it's Morrow 😎

trail kite
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the video was on...also help me

rustic copper
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explain where Gwyneth got such power from? what if she's a member of another species?

sturdy nova
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what are such powers?

rustic copper
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brute physical force.

proper jasper
rustic copper
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but for Hendrik, this is due to his physiology, height and physique, as well as training. and Gwyneth has been like this since early childhood. and she was strong even before training, but she couldn't control her strength.

proper jasper
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The phrasing seems to imply that Hendrik does have a similar thing: "Gwyneth has the same incredible natural powers as Hendrik".

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It could be really cool if she wasn't completely human, though if I had to guess it's likely another "muscles are meaningless" trope

proper jasper
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I really hope they'll pick up this plotline eventually, maybe in a future awakening

sturdy nova
proper jasper
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If there's a future plotline with her and Skriath for example

sturdy nova
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or the dark star realm/void realm as @silk widget always loves to point out

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(thanks yudait, you're da bestt daimonhug )

proper jasper
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Yeah! That too elethathink

dark heath
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do GB’s have a elemental guardian

timber tide
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I don't see how they would tbh

wicked knoll
timber tide
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I mean, he was already as fast as the wind XD

wicked knoll
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😂😂

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touché

proper jasper
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So this means Eorin and Solise are related somehow? elethathink

vapid musk
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It's kinda strange, I expected him with oku or mishka

proper jasper
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Yeah, it'd make more sense. Unless people's Solise theories really do hold up

lament meadow
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wait is that confirmed??

proper jasper
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Ah no it's not, just one theory for now

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Afaik

rustic copper
proper jasper
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Could mean nothing at all, could mean something. Time will tell

uneven echo
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Fisherman kren is eternal

rustic copper
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poacher.

glad ruin
whole parrot
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can we talk about how they made the fish a captain of a ship

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and then that fish decided to teach other humans how to fish

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hey Princess! want to learn how to murder my family?? cool, glad to see you're getting into the spirit of things

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what the fuck Lilith

covert jasper
lapis stag
covert jasper
tepid pebble
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actually, I just found the answer in Alaro's lore

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it is B

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Canter

covert jasper
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Thanks

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And thanks for posting the correct answer Hero of Esperia smh

lapis stag
dark heath
spiral willow
lapis stag
covert jasper
# dark heath https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/904799802355748925/1004845410541654146/...
AFK Arena Wiki

Durri (CN: 鼠人 Shǔ rén, "Ratmen"; JP: ワーラット Wāratto, "Wererats"), are a sub-race of Ya, primarily living amongst the Maulers. There are currently four Durri playable in-game: Vurk, Skreg, Drez, and Kren. Though initially referred to as merely being a "tribe", they're confirmed to be their own species, at least in the English translation, by being...

rustic copper
timber tide
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thing is, why does only drez have a tail?

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if they're a species?

whole parrot
covert jasper
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To other maulers theyre considered cowards... well

whole parrot
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i think that makes them less cowardly than everyone else but hey, i'm not a mauler

covert jasper
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yeah you go by exclusion of parts

whole parrot
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i'm almost done compiling a document of all the answers to the questions for this event

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i have two issues

covert jasper
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shoot

whole parrot
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1 - one of the questions i'm like 100% positive is wrong - i reached out to lilith about that one

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2 - there's a question about the ancient creed of the mauler shamans and while i'm like 95% sure about the answer, i am also positive that it isnt in any of the lore i read and i have no idea what they are referecing

covert jasper
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regarding the voodoo?

whole parrot
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yes

covert jasper
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I have that very same doubt

whole parrot
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i'm pretty positive the answer is the healing one - its the only thing that makes sense given what we know about the nature of voodoo magic. BUT i swear to god its not in the fucking lore anywhere

covert jasper
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you can only quote as Numisu as Witch Doctor

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from what I could find

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but but but....

whole parrot
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nah there's definitely more lore about shamans than just numisu. like a lot of the temple of the seer lore is about shamans and theyre mentioned in several places in game - including on the world map i think

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but i dont see an ancient saying or creed anywhere so i'm worried its like something super obscure - they already cited fucking battle of blood lore in these questions so it could be in an event

covert jasper
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hmmm

whole parrot
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if its somewhere i think its gonna be in obscure temple lore or duras gift lore

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AFK Arena Wiki

The Maulers are divided into numerous tribes, not all of them known. However, several of them have been identified repeatedly in lore. Under construction. Main article: Arachin A tribe of spiders that do not usually associate with the other tribes. Most other Maulers fear them, as their venom is extremely powerful and causes their victim an excr...

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im digging

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Some may accuse voodoo practitioners of worshiping demons, but this is a deliberate misinterpretation. In fact, voodoo magic is among the only forms known to mortals which utilizes the laws of nature. Especially for devotees of Dura, Goddess of Life and Nature, this is by no means some sort of evil magic, but rather the variety which stems most directly from the Divine. Voodoo spells enable witch doctors and priests to harness the power of Dura, using totems and other focuses to channel power to heal the wounded or to direct flames.

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AFK Arena Wiki

This rich oasis is a rare and fertile land in the Scorched Expanse. Created by Dura to save the Maulers’ ancestors, it is the primary reason the Maulers have survived to this day. Of course, as one of the only sources of fresh water and many other natural resources, Dura’s Gift is also frequently the subject of violent territorial disputes. Alth...

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Especially for devotees of Dura, Goddess of Life and Nature, this is by no means some sort of evil magic

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"Voodoo spells enable witch doctors and priests to harness the power of Dura, using totems and other focuses to channel power to heal the wounded or to direct flames."

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They had rituals and prayers ofc. And the study focus on was based on Uplifiting and healing...

whole parrot
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i'm fairly positive its number 3. it could be 1, but it doesnt make as much sense

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but i also dont know of ANY lore that references an ancient creed

covert jasper
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"Used for" thats my direction line

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so yeah 95% on number 3

whole parrot
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its either in the chinese text only, from an event i dont remember, or it isnt actually in the lore anywhere

covert jasper
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The Chinse Sauce points this: 鲁米苏故事

whole parrot
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okay then i need someone to translate the chinese text of numisu's story

covert jasper
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鲁米苏 - thats the search key

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鲁米苏

whole parrot
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that's just numisus name no?

covert jasper
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yes I think

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hold on

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Chinese traditional Vs Simplified.... let me double check

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ok thats better

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yeah if scanned it gave the proper result

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巫医

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thats CN simplified which you will need to add sword and expedition

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巫医 剑与远征

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Chinese Traditional:

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鲁米苏

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yes without wquestion:

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鲁米苏故事

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The Source is in the Numisu´s Story and the 100% answer

whole parrot
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yeah i'm reading his story in chinese now and its WILDLY different from the english holy shit

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also i think its answer 1 actually, but i'm getting someone to double check

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this is just so fucking different from the english lore

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this is kinda bonkers

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it is just 100% a different story

covert jasper
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I totally believe that

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they should have other literature references so that should be quite normal I guess

whole parrot
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okay so numisu's english lore is about how while training to be a shaman he didnt hear the spirits as others did so he was gonna quit. he got sick with the plague, heard the spirits, got better, and became the only mauler who could cast out the plague and then embarked on a lifetime journey of following the instructions of the spirits

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numisu's chinese lore is about the ancient practices of shamans - before numisu the old admonition was that voodoo can only be used for sacrifice and blessing, not for killing and war. but numisu broke that and used his powers to in the war to help protect his people

covert jasper
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awwwww

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no way so sacrifice and blessing

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that means rituals and prayers?

whole parrot
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yeah thats the best translation

covert jasper
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How this became so twisted? Im seriously confused with the mistranslation

whole parrot
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its not a mistranslation, they just wrote him a whole fucking separate lore

covert jasper
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basically its totally different

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well I guess this was serious Voodoo then... LUL

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I would follow the CN mentionings

whole parrot
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alright, gimme a little bit to get this guide into a nice readable and organised image and i'll put it on reddit

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gotta see if i'm got an image maker awake

covert jasper
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Super Duper Thanks a lot 👍

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yeah the theme is all Mauler Lore Related.....

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which became to be super interesting

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well thats my idea in All Mauler idea. Super interesting indeed

whole parrot
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okay Antandra and Satrana also have very different lore stories in Chinese

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in the Chinese lore, Satrana collapses at the temple and is taken in. Antandra takes care of her in while she's comatose and nurses her back to health and the young satrana imprints on Antandra and follows her everywhere

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until one day a guard comes representing the person who satrana had been enslaved by

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and he demands to take her back

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Antandra knows it's against the rules to fight for any purpose other than defence of the temple, but she decided to fight the guard

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she narrowly defeats him in a bitter battle and is exiled as she knew she would be

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satrana insists on following Antandra and Antandra knows it's not a good idea

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so she begs the temple to take satrana in and one of the elders agreed

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then the rest is the same, satrana is also trained by the temple until one day she goes off in search of Antandra

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but she's not searching for someone who saved her life but she never talked to or knew

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she's searching for someone she spent months with, who nursed her back to health and bonded with her before saving her life

covert jasper
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Ok we have two separate dimensions

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The global dimension and the CN dimension. I’m starting to doubt about other stuff, not the obvious…. But…it’s 3 obscure mauler stories

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Unless somebody has already heard about these discrepancies

whole parrot
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also i finally read the Chinese text for the Silvina and Isabella lore and their lore doesn't have mistakes in the Chinese version, it's much more coherent

whole parrot
# covert jasper Unless somebody has already heard about these discrepancies

I mean we know about some of the other differences in the stories for more popular hero and lore. like Baden isn't controlled at the end of his story in the Chinese lore even though he is in the English. and it was very consistent too because they made further English content that discussed how Baden didn't have access to his memories and wasn't in control of his body

but then for the elemental lore they have Baden show up suddenly remembering who he is and in control of himself. because it was never a conflict in the Chinese lore so they just decided not to resolve it in the English lore

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but mauler lore is just much less popular, especially older mauler lore. Numisu? not exactly someone we regularly talk about here

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most of the discrepancies are caught by either superfans who have read both versions or by players noticing mistakes in the English lore that can be explained if you know the Chinese lore

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so it makes sense that no one has really talked about this until now

covert jasper
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Well, having more content, more detailed information would be ..
Yeah, ok, ofc, we Chinese, ok, we are the ones writing the main script, therefore this will suffer after translations and dubbings.

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Which makes a lot of sense as the translations are not skilled at all, and it would require a reader that was really interested as well.

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As for the Mauler Lore, I’m quite impressed and even more thrilled, because the usual portrait of them has become not “gloomy” within time, rather instead … well unknown is the best word due to the lack of popularity… No, popularity ,no, but connotations with other possible things.

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Therefore, it could have been overlook many characters and certainly Numisu was one of them.

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Besides this explains a lot why the lack of Maulers supports, or Seers, or Voodoo practitioners in the Maulers. And I can’t just say by his size, that Numisu is a Darri.

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Rather what kind of twist would be me feasible to introduce new Mauler supports in the future. And btw, this is the first I went this deep to get knowledge of Lore, mainly because of Anasta and Brutus story that happened.

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@whole parrot
Here’s a list of well know Chinese player, I’ll share pics and the link just soon after:

锻造活动小题库
刷新一波收集到的题目
1、不屈刽子手-克艾索斯曾经是一名?
答案:家奴

2、诡诈猎手-沃尔克的哥哥是?
答案:斯克雷格

3、身为神庙武士,毕生只能为守卫神庙而战,如果因其他原因擅动干戈,将会遭到?
答案:放逐

4、掠翼氏族上一任女王是在什么中被杀死?
答案:哗变

5、德雷斯是哪个狩猎小队的成员?
答案:熊人威尔森的狩猎小队

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6、刻入鼠人骨髓的天性是?
答案:胆小

7、以下哪位英雄没有参与秘银商队大劫案?
答案:德雷斯

8、蛮血大酋长-斯克瑞斯是哪个族的?
答案:游隼氏族

9、悍血卫统领权的象征是?
答案:悍血号角

10、怒蹄先锋-高鲁斯,是哪支兵团的团长?
答案:怒蹄骑兵团

11、在蛮血部族中,什么是睿智的代名词?
答案:巫医

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12、沃克的兄长死在了谁的手上?
答案:人马

13、曾经凭借力量稳居蛮血部族金字塔尖端的是什么族?
答案:熊人

14、蛮血部族的铁则是?
答案:弱肉强食、适者生存

15、谁曾是蛮血部族火器攻坚部队“钢铁之牙”二等兵?
答案:克勒恩

16、固定在克勒恩右腕上的小口径榴弹发射器的名字是?
答案:淑女

17、克勒恩携带的那支53式多功能单兵火炮的名字是?
答案:辣妹

18、流放之地位于哪里?
答案:蛮血部族与耀光帝国的交界地带

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19、传闻危险组织“流沙之爪”的据点是?
答案:魔鬼沙堡

20、不排斥异族,被湖泽点亮的沙漠之城叫什么?
答案:坎特城

21、饲蛇者-泽斯库养过几条蛇?
答案:4

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22、现任蛮血战神是?
答案:布鲁特斯

23、荒漠石傀在加入蛮血部族前,曾与哪个阵营长时间生活在一起?
答案:绿裔联盟

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covert jasper
bright oriole
vivid surge
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This year’s summer event isnt as iconic as last year’s

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We want big buff dudes in summer outfits like arthur

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😴

glad ruin
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isn't hodgkin dropping soon

vivid surge
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They nerfed him

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Yknow what i mean by that

whole parrot
proper jasper
whole parrot
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😊

civic geyser
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Idc what all of you say

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This is peak character design

proper jasper
crystal tapir
# whole parrot i think that makes them *less* cowardly than everyone else but hey, i'm not a ma...

We don't see the majority of durri. We only see the exceptions because the average Durri wouldn't make a very effective party member.

• Vurk's adventurous personality is an anomaly.
• Skreg stayed behind until his brother coming back alive after stealing from someone that even Hypogeans are scared of inspired him, and even then he was hesitant.
• Drez didn't have a choice. It was either ignore his instincts or die right there.
• Kren is literally insane.

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With my own OC, I tried to play her species's cowardice straighter.

whole parrot
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the lore specifically describes how durri normally hunt and fight

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and it's because they favour an ambush style instead of head to head confrontation that the other maulers consider them cowardly

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but fighting even though you're scared of everything and figuring out how to adapt that to your strengths (cleverness) isn't cowardly imo, it's brave

crystal tapir
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Yeah, to other Maulers, if you aren't taking the risk of death, it's like stabbing someone in their sleep.

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Warrior cultures in the real world had similar attitudes.

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It's a view of the blurry line between combat and cold-blooded murder.

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You can even see it in modern games when people whine about snipers in FPSes.

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I can definitely see your point of view, basically.

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(My OC was cowardly even among Durri because her own fears lead to gross negligence and, with it, casualties that could have been avoided.)

whole parrot
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you can be brave and not honourable, especially per warrior cultures

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you can be brave and be a lot of terrible things

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bravery is about facing your fears

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the way Lilith described them, durri are just pathologically afraid all the time and have to face that fear just to hunt

crystal tapir
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Yup. It can't be easy having the nerves of a prey animal while being a carnivore.

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and they're just so CUTE

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Maulers just have a different view of what bravery means than we do, I guess.

covert jasper
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The question should have been from a Maulers´ Warrior High Honor Point of view in a conservative manner

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Being cunning, does not matter if its efficient, and its not coward at all, just smart

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The old question between Courage and Stupidity... but well, this question has some issues

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Being fearful means aware of dangers, not that they will not face them or run away, they do not have that option. They need the hunt as anyone else. Because they will some means of hunting ofc. they do with that they have been given. Smart thats what I honestly think.

proper jasper
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I think this all tends to circle back on what defines cowardice and what Lilith really means when using that term, but I think this also relies a little on the nuance of the original phrasing in chinese, something that's very difficult to translate. Say, if they mean cowardice like "hardwired to shy away from dangerous situations aka. inability to face those fears", then that honestly makes a lof of sense, especially considering what's beneficial to the survival of their species.
And if a sense of fear is conditional based on the situation, and if their regular hunting methods doesn't trigger that, then cowardice can be used I guess, though I'd phrase it differently.
Although, are there anybody here familiar enough with chinese to shed light on that? I'm pretty curious myself.

normal sleet
crystal tapir
# normal sleet Whats the story about Skreg and hes brother? When it happened?

Vurk snuck into the Arachin caves and stole venom from Ankhira. According to Skreg's story, the other durri assumed that Vurk had gotten himself killed doing something so, frankly, stupid. But then he came back unscathed. It was only then that Skreg started to venture out, figuring that if his little brother could be that brave then so could he, which is when he found his Ironjaw and all that.

normal sleet
crystal tapir
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Ankhira considers Vurk's success to be a personal insult and is trying to team up with Safiya to have him killed, which is where that Union comes from.

rustic copper
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by the way, didn't it seem strange to you that there are no hedgehogs in the maulers and wilders?

proper jasper
rustic copper
autumn pike
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IF BADEN DID NOT GET THE SAME TREATMENT I SHALL RIOT

whole parrot
proper jasper
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You're right about that yeah, and as far as I can tell, the durri stories are pretty accurate in translation.

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which admittedly, is not something I can really say since I don't know chinese. But oh well

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Skreg is probably the best character for examining what they mean, since he most represent the "typical" durri. I'm reading the machine translation, so take with a pinch of salt. It seems what he wanted to do, but couldn't due to his nature, was to face a situation head on with bravery/courage. Which is something he was only able to do when the steeljaw was threatened. That's also when the phrase "he didn't know where this courage came from" is used, which is interesting to me

lament meadow
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<@&545792117956673538> sorry think we got some people to block and report in here

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trail kite
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What's just happened

proper jasper
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Anybody else getting excited for the awakened Wilder? I can't wait to see her design warekheart

autumn pike
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ITS GOING TO BE TASI ! 😭 🤏

proper jasper
languid panther
languid panther
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STOP WITN THE FOOT EMOJIS

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They should make her look like a luna moth

proper jasper
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YES

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So cute!!!

glad ruin
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I want to see her go dragon mode

crystal tapir
chilly scarab
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is it confirmed awakened Tasi???

proper jasper
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Not yet

proper jasper
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Guys it's Solise omg

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Her story will have something to do with Eorin after all

autumn pike
proper jasper
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This means my Tasi theory could still happen!!

trail kite
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Idk...maybe Eorin is like... helping

fallen trellis
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Yay Swolise

strange skiff
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Well Tarnos is definitely helping

vapid musk
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Now I really wondering about their story

proper jasper
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Same!!! I'm so excited!!!

coral zodiac
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Tarnos lore

proper jasper
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Ooh thank you!! warekheart

vapid musk
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I... don't like him. Idk, I just feel uncomfortable with him

rustic copper
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Is tarnos related to athalia?

silk widget
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So solise gonna be blessed by water element from Seirus? Why though? Maybe her ability can help push back the encroachment of those black demons on the plants and livings in the Dark Forest

silk widget
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With solise taking the water element emblem and a gb is likely to be blessed by wood element, there are only fire and nature elements left.

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Wait.. wood and nature are the same, arent they

vapid musk
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I still feel like there will be some sort of problem with fire element

silk widget
vapid musk
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The element of water was missing there too, which is ironic if we looking at Khazard story

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The Order of the Sun, which was mentioned in one of the peaks, is back in play with the temple of time. So perhaps this plot has indeed been a long time in the making elethathink

proper jasper
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Oh that's very interesting 👀

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I think there's something beautiful about Solise having the water element. Water brings life, Solise is intimately tied to the flora of the forest. She becomes a "life-bringer" in a sense. I find it fitting

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Also the water-lily/lotus imagery is nice!

glad ruin
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Half disappointed it turned out to be solise, but even more so from the small bit of art shown that it doesn't look like that significant a design change. talene-tier "this could be a skin" stuff.

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thane got a goatee. where's solise's goatee

vapid musk
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I think we should wait for her full art

proper jasper
glad ruin
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Sure. Maybe all her tails are made of water now or something like that

brisk sequoia
shell jay
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Yay ASolise. Got her on that SGquiz

languid panther
mint minnow
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Anyone now what is name of Skriath loyal elite military force?

mint minnow
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tnx, Yes, its related with Anoki

rustic copper
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I wonder if Solisa and Talena will argue, which of them is more sex?

silk widget
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That's weird tiduslaugh

orchid plaza
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My mauler hero concept , Qalius
It's his design , I will work on his skills , lore and other things

What do you think about design ? The boot are kinda lame for me I don't know what to do

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That black things in his back basket is something like coal which can be flamed by his flame hand , throwing the flaming rocks at enemies

vapid musk
rustic copper
lapis stag
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waaaaaaait

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that was a spoiler

rustic copper
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You don't know?

sturdy nova
shell jay
vapid musk
proper jasper
rustic copper
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by the way. I've been thinking. based on Dolly's phrase, we can assume that Solisa will be a support.
but what's even more-one of her skills will be the skill of resurrecting others.

rustic copper
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Wait. details of the history of tarnos. I've seen them somewhere before... something similar, something related to this.

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this is... this... this is the story of Haelus and the city of Bonapei.

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and the old man who was branded is Haelus' best friend, Gaius. the one who retreated from the gods and went to the western continent.

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stop. what if the appearance of tarnos is an omen of a new cycle of awakenings?

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Tarnos is a sinner god. and we have exactly 1 character who punishes sinners and has a status suitable for punishing someone so powerful.

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and this is Athalia. However, she is only a demigod, which means that upon awakening, she will receive the full status of a god. and perhaps it will be a cycle of sins and atonement.
but who will get into it?
my guess is that this is athalia->khazard/megira->cecilia->safia->saurus->keltur.

proper jasper
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Some things doesn't add up though. Gaius and Haelus are unrelated to Bonapei. That happened before the era of the man gods.
This takes place at the barred gate, and the sin mark is likely referencing the sin-bearers marked after the first hypogean war, which is much later than Gaius' time.
That aside, it could be an interesting awakening theme for the next cycle

rustic copper
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Gaius started this era.
in addition, there is an interesting phrase in the dialogue between tarnos and the old man (we will not specify who it is specifically):"You humans appease demons because of petty ambitions. You crave power that is not given to you!"
It was Gaius who was the first to rebel against the domination of the gods. the arcana era ended on it, and a new era began on it. the old man's phrase is "haha... Petty ambitions? Tell me, why do the gods enjoy eternal life, soaring above everyone else, and we humans have to put up with our mortal fate? Why are we born weak and powerless? What's wrong with the fact that we want strength to match our mind?" correlate very well with the fact that Gaius wanted to get divine immortality, or destroy the gods.
in addition, an important detail is the connection with hypogeance AFTER an unsuccessful connection with the gods. and this connection should be a flying ship (or perhaps even a whole fleet). the demons are at the bottom, and if Gaius could not get to the top (but rather could), then he could go down.
and what is needed for this? that's right-drill. which is on the eastern continent. there is an assumption that it was Gaius who opened the gate, then received the brand of Tarnos, and with it eternal suffering.
maybe he wanted to get their power to take revenge against the gods. we need specific data on how long it took from the moment of Gaius' death to the opening of the gate, if Gaius was dying at all.

proper jasper
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We already have specific data on that in the lore book. It's more than a thousand years. Humanity did not achieve immortality, unless Lilith change their minds on that and decides Gaius somehow got that. Using a drill to reach the Hypogeans or open the barred gate makes no sense. Bonapei was caused by Uemiss, before the era of man gods, thus Gaius is not related to that. That's also in the lore book.

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And Gaius was not native to Altor, but to Hathor.

rustic copper
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damn artbookers. overnight, I completely stopped understanding what was going on, who all these people were, and why they were
WAAAHsos WAAAHsos WAAAHsos

proper jasper
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I think we have the scans for the lore book here somewhere? It's great reference material 🙌 clears up a lot of stuff!

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proper jasper
rustic copper
proper jasper
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Yeah that's fair

silk widget
rustic copper
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first I need to buy it. and this is difficult, considering that I have been trying to do this since the information about her appeared at all. But never mind, I will definitely take it.

silk widget
rustic copper
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Hmm. Lutos, the sleeping king of the dark stars. uemis, his messenger.
hmm, that reminds me of something. I've heard something similar before... this is azatoth and nyarlathotep.

silk widget
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The art books are very good in quality but it just bothers me so much with all of those little text errors zaphtears

proper jasper
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I just wish they had rewritten the character and union stories to be more accurate gwynhands

rustic copper
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well, in the game they have already rewritten the history of some characters (for example, I didn't know about the arcana era in the history of haelus at all).

rustic copper
silk widget
rustic copper
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if translators were beaten with a stick every time they distort the meaning laid down by the scriptwriters of the afc arena, then... I didn't come up with a joke until the end.

brisk sequoia
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how did tasi go missing lorewise?

civic geyser
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Hunted to extinction idk

brisk sequoia
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ow i see

proper jasper
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Isn't Tasi fine though? Aside from being mia

jaunty vessel
timber tide
languid panther
zealous mural
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Hello, I'm new and I just wanted to say that I love the art

autumn pike
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and we love you too !

sturdy nova
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Wholesome @autumn pike daimonhug

rustic copper
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As the years go by, the game gets heavier. it feels like the developers are stuffing all the 18+ content they can find into the game files.

vapid musk
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Bro what the

trail kite
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Someone please...get the gun then
The baseball bat isn't enough for this situation

languid panther
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What is happening lol

languid panther
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The game has had genocide, kids dying/being murdered, torture ect since the beginning so I'm not getting what the "18+" part is

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There's nothing even like. Sexual in the game besides some busty women and barely dressed men

sturdy nova
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i think they meant it referring to the size of the game files

proper jasper
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😅 anyways, do we have any new info on AwSolise? Like her full design? solisestrawberry

lapis stag
proper jasper
trail kite
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Can't wait to see it

languid jungle
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What is the connection between zaph and Luc?

languid panther
# languid jungle What is the connection between zaph and Luc?

Dura called upon Zaphrael to ascend as a Celestial. Zaphrael answered the call but with it, leaving behind his wife Lucretia and their unborn child.

Little did he know that his quest for justice would usher a greater evil upon Esperia.

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languid jungle
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Thx

brisk sequoia
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zaph best dad

royal flame
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a

proper jasper
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Well-

silk widget
proper jasper
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She's so pretty warekheart

silk widget
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Where are her 9 tails anokiharold

trail kite
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I guess...they turn her tails into water

proper jasper
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Looks like it yeah

zinc cradle
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So the tails just… you know… evaporated?

umbral widget
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So it's Solise who gets the Awakening. I thought it would be someone like Nemora or Kaz.

exotic heron
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Hello everyone! I’m new here, and mostly interested in any feedback on the translations as I’m the guy who does many of the hero stories (and the Chronicles/faction etc sections of the art book). I can’t speak to lore conflicts, but as I hope to continue working on this game I’m dipping my toe into the community and see if it helps.

silk widget
exotic heron
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I qualified it with ‘many’ - that one wasn’t mine

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I think someone mentioned one where they objected to a turn of phrase I used, something like ‘running around’ as in being really busy - that’s more useful for the future

silk widget
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@exotic heron speaking of the art books. Why there are so many errors in the books. It's like no one bothers to proof read the book before finalizing it for printing . I love the books but the errors bothered me a lot 😥

exotic heron
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Mate I’m trying to get a copy for myself so don’t even know. I had a quick look at the bits I did - which are the only bits I could have any control over - and didn’t spot anything too glaring. I’m sorry there are so many errors though as yes, there should have been a thorough proofing stage.

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It irks me when an apostrophe is used incorrectly, so I get how jarring it can be fo’sure. Anyway people are welcome to msg me or pop stuff here if there’s anything that can constructively help with making it better in the future for everyone🙏

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exotic heron
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Don’t be looking at how the sausage is made 😝 there’s a group of us who seem to keep encountering each other on various projects with various companies. It depends on the pool of active, available translators.

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I’m not in-house, just to clarify. But I’ve been assigned to most of the lore side of things. Someone else will handle the UI/gameplay content etc

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Of course this could all change if I get assigned to another project, though I hope I don’t. I’m really enjoying this.

umbral widget
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Hey, uh, what's the lore behind Solise's Awakening.

coral zodiac
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Still not known

proper jasper
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Hey @exotic heron, thanks for the great work! There's definitely been an improvement in quality on the recent lore translation!

exotic heron
exotic heron
umbral widget
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Darn. Well, can we at least get her full art?

exotic heron
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You need the art department for that 😖 I’m all text, all the time.

exotic heron
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Not gonna lie, the game itself is secondary for me, I just like bringing what are often really emotional and strong stories to life in english too. I was amazed to discover the Reddit sub, and thence here. It’s very motivating for me on a personal level.

sand canopy
proper jasper
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So they aren't the same? I always assumed they were elethathink

glad ruin
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Interesting

languid panther
exotic heron
crystal tapir
sturdy nova
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Hey, I'm from test server, just read a bounty text for solise awakening, it said smth along the lines of 'reach out to wind whisperer (lorsan) so that he can connect to other wind whisperers'

Did we have any other piece of lore confirm that there were more than one Whisperers? Because I have always thought there was only one of each kind (lorsan, solise for now)

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Also is mishka a beast whisperer?

sturdy nova
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Thank you @proper jasper frenm daimonhug

umbral widget
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Well. Who knew Theowyn's crying can give a cat depression.

normal sleet
glad ruin
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Is there a lore acknowledgement/explanation for Gwyn having fire/lightning powers? I feel like it'd probably be something about the bow if anything, but the description of it just says it goes brr

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at least in english

silk widget
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@glad ruin provided that she uses the same bow, then those lightning and fire effect come from the bow itself

glad ruin
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makes sense.

glad ruin
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usually they'd add at least a little bit of extra written lore, in this case probably about his connection with flora which goes entirely unmentioned in his game lore

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wow this is embarrassing

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i also follow the japanese account and they did get the full thing (and it does talk about flora)

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they've been pretty careless with english translation before but "not even bothering to try" is a new one

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they didn't do any of the food stuff either...

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anyway here's the tarnos story deepl'd.

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(Tani is Tarnos's name in japanese, and "Catastrophe" are hypogeans)

sand canopy
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uemiss

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it talks about how the sealed gate fell and directly mentions Uemiss

glad ruin
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it's cool to see the arbook lore creeping up more explicitly with the heroes. all the stuff about uemiss plotting to draw the gods away from the gate so they could break free is in there but now here's a guy who was personally involved in all that

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yeah the japanese lore mentions him too i think, but apparently his name is Igtes

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there

proper jasper
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Ooooh I love this

sand canopy
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Chinese names:

黑域耳语者 Devourer (nickname)
古尔多斯 Gulodos (name)

伊格提斯 Uemiss (artbook)

proper jasper
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English ver

glad ruin
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i rescind my judgement, but im still tilted about them getting rid of ages

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I still wonder who this guy is. With the connection to flora I thought maybe an early design for tarnos, but it still definitely looks more like zaphrael. it's definitely not zaphrael's current design though....

sturdy nova
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Wasn't this early zaph design?

glad ruin
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it doesn't match those shown in the artbook, at least. though one of them did have a (kind of physical looking) twisty spear

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the weird part is that the flora dolly's corner came out directly before the zaph/lucretia dolly's corner, and in the comics for those he's just drawn normal. pretty sure the artist is the same too.

exotic heron
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I only just learned that some of the other languages (Russian for sure, not sure about Japanese) base their translations on the english (eg mine) rather than on the Chinese source. So if there’s an issue in one, it’ll be replicated across the languages.

exotic heron
proper jasper
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Not necessarily speaking of people here, but I do think many in the community assume translations are an in-house job, and that the translators work closer with the devs than you actually do.

exotic heron
proper jasper
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In the same vein as producers and marketing, writers, artists, code etc. gets lumped into the same "dev" group and when people rant about the "devs" they actually mean the producers rather than say, the writers. But sometimes people tend to treat them as one entity and not separate parts in a group. Idk if that makes sense, but that tendency has been irking me a bit

exotic heron
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I’m all about division of labour and am totally open for fair criticism (which is why I’m here) of things for which I have control/am responsible.

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But armchair experts with a Google translate really boil my badger

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I should go lurk in the translation errors section rather than here, perhaps.

proper jasper
glad ruin
exotic heron
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Odd, just checked and apparently someone replied on twitter saying they’ve stopped pushing the longer pieces on that account. Which makes f*ck all sense to me.

exotic heron
proper jasper
exotic heron
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🤦‍♂️

proper jasper
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And just... never bothered to correct it

glad ruin
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For what it's worth, when I talked about carelessness in translation, I was talking about more what we used to see a couple years back. The stuff we've been getting more recently has been a lot more solid and fun to read (including the longer story now that we can see it). Definitely don't mean to disparage anyone's translation work, I know it's a tough gig

exotic heron
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Edging towards comments I probably shouldn’t say here, so will grit my teeth and look apologetically at you all despite if not being my fault

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And disparage away if there are faults! Again that’s what I’m here for, to learn if how I’ve chosen to express certain characters is correct or wildly off the mark

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I think I’ll probably avoid jumping into discussions, so if there ever is something that requires my attention either @ me or send me a DM

proper jasper
glad ruin
silk widget
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Look at this for example, how is it even allowed anokiharold

proper jasper
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And then they copy-pasted the incorrect union lore to the lore book sadira

proper jasper
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They made her tails into water!

silk widget
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Her design looks underwhelmed compared to the other awakened heroes. And those watermelons looks weird

glad ruin
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The water tails look pretty cool on the sprite, communicates the idea better than the portrait oddly

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Otherwise I stick to my initial reaction from like 2 weeks back, kind of an underwhelming design.

glad ruin
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They should have made her hair water too. Or her limbs. Just go loco. Anything but her outfit is different now and also she has a staff. Just imo

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shulda been tasi

proper jasper
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I'm kinda glad it wasn't Tasi. I adore her and I want her awakened but just not by the water element belovedzikis

sturdy nova
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I hoped for ulmus but as a proud 309 solise owner I like it too

proper jasper
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Nice! I want her built one day too, she was one of my first 5 stars

pseudo karma
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I think a "simple" design suits her better

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she looks older

chilly scarab
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yeah she looks more mature and sort of reflects the wilders nature

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Also new lb incoming

tepid pebble
vapid musk
trail kite
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Go on
Although I see them as friends but go on

vapid musk
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I liked the fact that in spite of his mild obsession, Eorin is still a good man and was willing to sacrifice himself to save Solisa
Boy, he really need some therapy

trail kite
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Yeah... twisted or questioning personality...but I still like him

vapid musk
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It's hard to blame him here, he literally lost his family as a child and saw the whole disgusting part of life outside the forest with the slave trade and stuff.

trail kite
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Yeah...he has a reason to be like that

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glad ruin
# silk widget

I was thinking/wondering if the 2 elemental guardians we haven’t seen would be added as heroes this year, but i guess if emblems can just be laying around that’s not necessarily necessary…

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Seirus being kinda careless with the thing ngl

proper jasper
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Lmao I know

vapid musk
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Pure Seirus

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But I think we will see Wood guardian

sturdy nova
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Thane fused with the emblem
Brutus fused it with the weapon
Solise transformed it into a weapon/staff

Now gb be carrying it around in it's smol lil handbag ig

vapid musk
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And they promised to meet up at the bastion in the end thanecry and fight together thanecry

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I'm so curious about the wood guardian

tepid pebble
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so, guys, what is your take on the new Dolly dialogue?

proper jasper
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Hard to tell tbh, do we know of any other bounty hunters in lore?

proper jasper
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Yeah, though aside from in-game heroes

vapid musk
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Oh, fair

rustic copper
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Awakened Thane has 50% pf Eirohn power. What about awakened Eirohn?

coral zodiac
proper jasper
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Wrong chat my friend

proper jasper
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Solise cinematic!!

rustic copper
autumn pike
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Lightbearers do need a agility dps unit like cecilia !

whole parrot
tepid pebble
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mysterious newcomers sounds like dimensional no?

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though they'd probably already be promoting a crossover

tepid pebble
whole parrot
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really? I thought they did

tepid pebble
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Only the non collab did, I think

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I could be wrong tho, it is been a while

whole parrot
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ugh I hope it's not dual lightbearer

tepid pebble
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We are due for a hypo as well, but it doesn't sound like it to me

proper jasper
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Lbs sounds most likely yeah

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So in the elemental story they talk about natural disasters related to all elements, but in-game there's a heavy focus on fire and ice/water. Makes me suspicious elethathink

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Also why wasn't Seirus present at all?

coral zodiac
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He doesn't? Wtf

proper jasper
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He wasn't lmao, he left the emblem in the spring with no supervision areyouseirus

coral zodiac
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Brb, going to slap Seirus on the face for irresponsible/j

proper jasper
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Ahsdhfs

sturdy nova
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i was Talia in game soonest, will build her

autumn pike
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😬

languid panther
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I'm hoping he's in the vow otherwise ???

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I do still have to wonder why it was Solise that was picked to awaken. Did she even have a story before this?

proper jasper
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Not really. I assume it is because she's not widely used, as well as being popular in the fandom

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I guess some characters might not seem popular to us, but they're more likely to look at the characters beloved in the chinese fandom. And I have seen quite a bit of Solise fanart there

proper jasper
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Solise is one of like 3 characters to get a skin within months of release so someone at least on lilith’s side is a fan I’d say

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(the other 2 being daimon and scarlet, she’s in peculiar company)

low geyser
proper jasper
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thx

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Heartbroken they didn't translate the "no need to preheat your obsidian finch" line

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There may be a version with all the text if it gets posted in the Community?

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# whole parrot or entirely rewriting the story. like Antandra and Satrana having radically diff...

Yeah. Those were also discussed in here thoroughly a long time ago. A theory that I came up with is that lores were rewritten and updated in the chinese version. The one thing the old translators seemed to want to get rid of the most is Dark Star Realm aka Void Realm. It is clear that the old translator intentionally get rid of any lore that mentioned Dark Star Realm as I have shared in here over the last 2 years WAAAHsos

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we're talking about the thing morael and dura discussed yes?

proper jasper
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Yup

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Speaking of the dark star realm and Lutos, since Framton was created by him, is he a reclaimer then? elethathink

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He doesn't really fit the description though and he seems generally unconcerned with the Astral Key

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@whole parrot @low geyser good old time when everything was all about guesssing with little lores anokiharold

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Makes me wonder though, why isn't Framton more powerful if Lutos himself created him?

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I don't have a source to compare Lutos's name in cn though, so I can't confirm if rokhan and lutos are the same being

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@exotic heron, do you know what the chinese name for Lutos is?

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@proper jasper btw, you have great memory lol. I always tend to forget all of the names of supporting characters WAAAHsos

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Can't wait to have it clarified khasosheart

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What I’ve got is 洛坎 luo kan

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@proper jasper lutos created Framton is confirmed now

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@exotic heron do you have the artbook pdf in chinese?

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Nope

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It’ll have been taken from here though, I’d think. Unless there were adjustments later but the blue entry is the official confirmed Term Base

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This is the art book, basically. Minus the art:

proper jasper
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Thanks @exotic heron!!

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@exotic heron can you share that one

exotic heron
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No

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sorrry I’m NDA’d up to my eyeballs and I think that would certainly be a big nono, like sharing the source code for windows or whatever

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I can discuss anything that is already released

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@exotic heron my bad . I forgot you are an employee for lilith. anokiharold

whole parrot
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where does relationship between solise and ira come from? I just remember it exists not why or what material it was in

glad ruin
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I am not sure it actually exists

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The only place where the Solise and Ira relationship is mentioned is in this part of a diagram that has all the character relationships on it. Other than that I don’t know where it is mentioned

proper jasper
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I can't remember anything about it myself either, does anybody else know?

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She wasn't mentioned in her Dolly

glad ruin
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solise's hut is such an odd addition. don't think it's even been acknowledged in any promotional material or anything? it just exists. and does nothing

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i wonder if future heroes will have their domiciles viewable too.

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lilith pleeeaaase

whole parrot
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does anyone have the lore for ezizh the abyssal terror

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or for gouldos

proper jasper
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Gouldos is on the wiki I think, I've been looking for the abyssal terror myself but haven't found anything. I'd love to see it if anybody has it

proper jasper
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Just noticed that Solise has a cute little picture of herself and Tasi in her hut

fluid temple
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Awe.

chilly scarab
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all this time i thought tasi was small like fairy-sized smol

civic geyser
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Solise's aw deisgn is pretty interesting

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It's much simpler than the others who are very ✨flamboyant ✨

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But the message comes across well and changes both about how absolutely broken she is ingame

rustic copper
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You see solise ult animation?

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proper jasper
coral zodiac
low geyser
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🤣

wise brook
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Do we know what the fifth element is? And is it known if ATalene harbors fire or celestial light?

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So far we have wind, earth, water, and either fire/light - whichever Talene is

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The five elements are fire, wind, earth, water and wood

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Talene isn't related to the fire guardian or fire emblem, though she might be a stand-in for the fire element in this case

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I’m not doubting you, I’m just having the discussion of Talene’s “element” with someone elsewhere and want to be sure about what I say

proper jasper
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# proper jasper

The emblem on the left is definitely Earth? Could the one on the right not be Earth, even though it doesn’t aesthetically match Granit/ABrutus?

proper jasper
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Interesting. So that would mean we’re due for the wood elemental? I thought we were due for fire, which would seem more relatable to Graveborn than wood

proper jasper
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We're due for wood most likely yes. In Thane's awakening story, we learn that Baden is going to find the wood guardian on the Island of the Banished

wise brook
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I also noticed the emblem on the left looked almost identical to the symbol on Shemira’s blindfold, so I was thinking maybe Brutus is the emblem on the right. Must just be a coincidence though. So does that mean it’s confirmed Baden will be the awakened GB? I thought that was still just a theory

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Nothing is confirmed, as it's still just a theory. But it's the most likely theory atm

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languid panther
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It's also worth noting the elements don't correspond to any particular faction so it being green or looking like another faction symbol doesn't mean anything with the elements

wise brook
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Just the elemental strife book, or is there more?

proper jasper
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It's in awakened Thane's story, towards the end

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His full awakening story was his VoW, which is not available anymore unfortunately

wise brook
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Yep wood. Still kinda ???? On what's happening with the fire emblem

proper jasper
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One interesting theory is that the fire element is corrupted somehow. I wonder what they got planned on that part

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I assume its going to be a deus ex machina they're saving for the end battle with ezizh

wise brook
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I don’t see any mention of the wood element in Thane’s story. I’m thinking the connections I’m looking for just don’t exist yet. So I guess the answer to my confusion is that Talene has no relation to the elements/guardians?

proper jasper
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Give me a sec I'll find it

languid panther
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The wood element is mentioned in thanes VOW where baden says the wood guardian is imprisoned on the island of the banished and he went to get respen to go back to the island to help

proper jasper
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You went to his awakened story right? Not his regular one?

languid panther
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Yes there we go

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Lol hurrying away

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Baden did his stupid Naruto run off into the desert

proper jasper
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LMAO

wise brook
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I think I’m gonna need an ELI5 on this

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I went to the library > echoes of time > winds of change story

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I can’t find the one you just sent

proper jasper
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You go to heroes, click on awakened thane, then click on story in the upper corner

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Or lower

wise brook
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Ah I see. Thanks! But back to my other question - though Talene’s kit/lore uses fire, she has no relation to the fire emblem/guardian?

languid panther
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Yep

proper jasper
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The elemental guardian is a separate "race" of sorts, as they're born for that role. Talene is an obsidian finch, so not a guardian

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Oh and this also from the other day about the wood guardian and baden

proper jasper
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Stoppppp that bard tales alert had me so distraught I got on the wrong bus I wasn't even paying attention my boy baden loves thane so much

wise brook
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Interesting.. so not really any mention of the fire emblem/guardian so far? It seems like they’re hinting a lot at the next awakened being wood element, but could they still throw a firey curveball at us?

proper jasper
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No mention of fire yet no. And they'd surprise me for sure if they did that 😅

languid panther
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They've stuck to the pattern so far so I really don't think so

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I personally think they're saving it for something at the very end

wise brook
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Fair, the only “curveball” we’ve gotten is that Tasi wasn’t the awakened wilder, and that was never more than a theory anyway

proper jasper
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True, besides, I believe they're saving Tasi for something more important in the end

wise brook
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I could see it. It does seem like the Ezizh/Tasi thing didn’t hit a climax

proper jasper
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Exactly! Since Ezizh is written in as a main villain in this story, Tasi is pretty much guaranteed to play an important role in defeating him

wise brook
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There’s also a lot of talk about Khazard in the lore. Any idea where his story is headed, if anywhere?

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In relation to the elements anyway

proper jasper
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Khazard attacked the Elemental Altar in Respen's story, and he's behind the opening of the Barred Gate iirc. Thus far he hasn't really been involved in this story at all

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*elemental strife story

wise brook
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Gotcha. Well thanks @proper jasper and @languid panther for your time and patience! I just started getting into the lore of this game, seems I’ve got a lot more research to do 😅

proper jasper
languid panther
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The lore is spread out all over the place too they've only recently been putting it in easier to find places like the lore book and the echoes of time

proper jasper
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We've been spoiled by those lmao. Still remember the good old times of having to dig through a mountain of stuff just to connect two dots thanedying

unique surge
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Maybe they can retcon Astar into being the fire guardian? She has fire powers and awakened Talene.

wise brook
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Nothing’s impossible, but I’m not sure they’d choose such a new character. So far Solise is the newest hero to get awakened, and she’s been out since February* 2020

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Oh wait you’re talking about the guardian, not the one who gets the element. Nvm 😅

proper jasper
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low geyser
rustic copper
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I wonder if Lutos is Dura and Annih's uncle or an older brother? after all, one devil Honas is the first god, but did lutos appear autonomously, or is his creation?

proper jasper
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Angwy uncle Lutos cutiemora

civic geyser
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So

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Any theories on the fire elemental hero

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Its fine if it's just Talene and they realized they didn't need the fifth cus she's a good substitute

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Cus we're about to cycle through all the factions and whoever will be the gb aw hero is definitely going to be wood

proper jasper
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I have a theory about the fire element being compromised or corrupted somehow, especially with the heavy focus on water/ice and fire in the recent VoWs

civic geyser
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There's been a lot of stuff like that yeah with the fire element out of hand

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Maybe Khazard or Framton have something to do with it

proper jasper
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I could see Khazard playing a part. He is after all the one who attacked the altar

civic geyser
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Actually it makes sense since Respen is a key character

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If one of the final battles was a standoff with him and Khazard, that would be very climactic

proper jasper
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It would!

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So it seems new hero is a colab with the witcher. I feel indifferent since I have never played that game lucretiawendy

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Is there any leak on if it is 2 separate heroes or they gonna pair them up as one hero?

coral zodiac
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Also since JoA is available for redemption from today and we'll possibly have the new hero on Wednesday patch/Thursday update, I hope it's not the case

sturdy nova
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Okay, just saw the leaks and now I'm hella excited

azure pecan
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@sturdy nova which video?

queen granite
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He made the video private

proper jasper
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We're getting Tasi's corner!

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Seems like there's no new info on her present status, just repeating what we already know

rustic copper
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Wait. how strong are dragons, if only the dream of one of them gave birth to a tazi? we have completely forgotten about the third force.

proper jasper
proper jasper
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Wait I didn't think about this before but Tasi's best friend and worst enemy are both trees- sorta

shell jay
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So Tasi is a "light-blue mist" now? She no longer has a body in reality? Maybe that's why she didn't get awakend

glad ruin
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I think this story is recounting their union story? Which seems to end with Tasi seemingly going back to the phyisical realm after some time

whole parrot
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PIPPA CALLS ARDEN GRANDPA

whole parrot
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but anyway

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do we think Pippa calls Arden grandpa because they're like, actual blood relatives?

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or just because he's elderly and watches over her and gets the title based on the relationship??

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also btw on the test server they changed the formatting of Union stories and it's bad. it's now a flip page instead of scroll but the flip page are much shorter so you need double the screens and it's endless clicking

but also the end of every story is cut off

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so I don't actually know how Raku and Pippa's lore story ends

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seriously 24 button pushes to read a story is fucking ridiculous

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# whole parrot which ones?

Her lore and her profile in dolly's corner issue. Iirc, none of them stated that they are related. My memory could be wrong though, double check yourself badensweat

whole parrot
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Arden is included but in a group with others

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so they could have either not mentioned it or not decided it until recently

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Or she call Arden as grandpa as a way of respect

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Elderly Respect

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# whole parrot so they could have either not mentioned it or not decided it until recently

Yeah. I just said that they are not related based on previous lores. Afk writer could add in new relation out of the blue like lorsan and lyca out of the blue. What I'm doubting about them being related is that they are not the same species. Pippa is a squirrel if i'm not wrong while arden is a goat. Lyca and lorsan relationship makes sense because they are both 🐰

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proper jasper
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Pippa seems to generally call old men gramps/grandpa regardless of familial connection. There's a VoW way back where she calls an old man "gramps" as well. Also, familial names are frequently used to address non-related people in China, so it's likely just that.

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Yeah

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She is respect

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@exotic heron could you tell me how awakened written in Chinese? Why is awakened heroes mentioned as SP heroes when I use auto translator to read patch note or new content in chinese language. And it's also written as SP in English alphabet. What does that mean?

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If you could copy and paste a chunk of the source here it might be easier, I’m stories and stuff so dunno where I might come across the term awakened and am not going to spend my holiday digging through everything

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proper jasper
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Could it maybe be some general gacha term? elethathink

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Iirc some gachas have systems that goes like, R (rare), SR (super rare), SSR, and then SP for awakened. Idk if I remember it right though

sturdy nova
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SP- special power?

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Because they get the awakened skill?

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'Superior'

low geyser
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I was half expecting some literal translation like 醒来 🤣

proper jasper
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Love the description for dreary ball. "Yeah this thing might be a Hypogean but it's cute so we're gonna keep it"

trail kite
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Pocket hypogean

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Celestials: "this creature is likely a hypogean."
Esperia: "smol bean."
Celestials: "it causes misfortune to whoever hears its cries."
Esperia: "s m o l b e a n."
Celestials: "IT COULD CAUSE HAVOC IF IT IS ALLOWED TO DEVELOP!"
Esperia: "S M O L B E A N."

rustic copper
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Hmm. Here's what I think. in one of the cycles of the awakened heroes, the celestial should become the reincarnation/avatar of dura, and the hypogean-annih.

languid panther
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Angy little eyes

trail kite
languid panther
rustic copper
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perhaps the latter will be able to negotiate with Annih in order to resist the god of destruction together.

snow python
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In which case, said negotiation is pointless as he's there specifically to erase things.

dark heath
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Was it ever explained why the water Emblem wasn't in Seirus' possession. Eery other Elemental guardian was present when a hero was awakened so they could give it to them? If it was a gift to help the dark forest since the Wilders accepted him as their own (Yuexi Well), wouldn't he at least take it back when he fought Gouldos and travel an entire ocean. And he did that with Gorvo, his best mate. And lilith never touched up on that, but it was relevant to the lore since it officially (as far as i know) connected Khazard and Gouldos. Thinking about it now, Gorvo would have been a way better Awakened than Solise. He's actively connected to the Water Guardian, is more OG than Solise, heck he's been in the game longer than Rowan, hasn't really had a Meta era but he found himself useful in teams every now and then. And if Lilith chose to give the nature faction the water Emblem, a turtule with Wolverines claws and personality fused with Thors helmet and hammer would be my best pick. Sorry if this was long lol

proper jasper
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I wish they'd done something with Seirus to at least involve him in the awakening story, as it feels a little to me like Lilith went ¯_ (ツ)_/¯

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I can see why lilith want to deviate from the obvious choice of awakened heroes. It's not like lilith gonna stop releasing awakened heroes after the awakened gb gonna be released. So why not keep the interesting awakened heroes for the next iteration and releasing mediocre ones in between.

low geyser
vapid musk
proper jasper
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Poor Seirus ajdhajs

proper jasper
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I wonder how they'll conclude the story after the GB is released. What's up with the fire guardian? What part will Ezizh and Tasi play? Is Khazard gonna make an appearance? Will we get a big boss battle event 'chasmic altar/dune destroyer' style?

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So many questions

severe saffron
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Is Seirus the most forgotten Wilder

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Have anyone in here played the witcher 3? Could you give me like a tl;dr list of interesting thing about gerald and that other female hero. cutiemora

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I also have the witcher 3 in my steam backlog. Maybe I should try to play it soon.

autumn pike
rustic copper
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Did you know about this?

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languid panther
# silk widget Have anyone in here played the witcher 3? Could you give me like a tl;dr list of...

So geralt is a Witcher, a kind of monster hunting warrior that's hated and revered bc magic and science is used to change their DNA when they're kids so they're not human. There's different schools of Witchers and he's the school of the wolf. Witchers mostly do bounty hunting and merc jobs. Yenn is his on and off love interest who's part of a group of sorceresses who are so powerful they basically run several governments behind the scenes. In the Witcher 3 geralts adoptive daughter ciri is kidnapped and you have to go find her before the Wild Hunt does, which is a supernatural force looking to use ciri's magic blood for evil basically. Yenn works for one of the two factions of the civil war that's happening in the land you play in and you can romance her or a couple other sorceresses. It's a very good game I've played it like 4 times

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The dlcs are massive too

languid panther
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Witchers do screw a lot that's not incorrect

chilly scarab
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isn't Seirus like travelling around with Gorvo kicking some of these new monster's butts

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languid panther
languid panther
fluid temple
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Nice.

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honest snow
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Ciri was trained as a Witcher, so setting aside her unique bloodline, her kit would have to be similar to Geralt’s, which is probably why she wasn’t chosen

severe saffron
languid panther
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People looooove yenn though

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(I'm people)

languid panther
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Unless the emblem has always just lived in the water elemental altar thingy from solises VOW and he guards it or something

autumn pike
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Ive only played the witcher 1 ! And i was very young at the time 😂. I am sorry but i hardly know anything about the lore !
The game was fantastic though.
Like i remember lying to my parents about my homeworks so i can finish quickly and play more time.

proper jasper
rustic copper
proper jasper
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Oh so like genshin? If it has lore then I'll need to play it too then. Oh man my poor phone storage...

sand canopy
proper jasper
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Huh, cute! I wonder to what extent they'll involve characters from afk arena. Modelling and animating every single one is probably too much work, so if they are including them they'll probably pick a handful of the more popular ones

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I hope Thane will be there izoldlove

rustic copper
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the main thing is that the game will have its own unique style.

low geyser
languid panther
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But still it's weird

low geyser
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agreed

severe saffron
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Athalia for example of Khazard, haven't seen them in any story content

vapid musk
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Did someone have new Dolly corner in English?

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I need to check one thing anokiharold

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Oh so there is no English yet areyouseirus

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Can someone pls ping me when we will get dolly's corner on English 🙏
Because I need to know what the hell did russian translators and how Fawkes become witcher anokiharold

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autumn pike
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Will probably be a hypogean. ( one of the corruptors )
Baden is going to fight against it => leads to his awakening

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vapid musk
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@vapid musk dolly's corner is up

vapid musk
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Well... That's fun

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Russian Dolly's corner is different than English one

silk widget
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I think the eng version is missing fawkes' bio

vapid musk
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Yeppp
And that was the part I wanted to check

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Because they named him witcher anokiharold

silk widget
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You could use the cn version with an auto translator

vapid musk
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Oh, I just don't know where I can check it 👉👈

vapid musk
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!!!!!
Thank you 💞💖💞

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What are you looking for btw

vapid musk
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I was just "ehhh what? Witcher? He always was demon hunter what the hell?"

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Not the first time when they shiting with translation
I still remember Thane's corner where they literally write that he want all Raines dead anokiharold

glad ruin
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oh nvm just found it luciussweat

lament meadow
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this feels like theyre trying to imply that geralt trained him somehow

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like its one thing to call him "witcher" for the hell of it, its another thing to call him "witcher" when youre starting a collab with a franchise literally called "the witcher"

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either way though its definitely a weird choice bc from what i can glean in google a witcher is literally just...a male witch

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like before i read witcher as "one who hunts witches/cursed things" and i feel like thats what they were going for, but what theyre really saying is that fawkes is a witch now??