lineup-help

[little radish]

Tysm!!!

[harsh urchin]

imma need some help here (no thoran cheese pls)

[hushed sorrel]

@torpid summit idk what happened but I just passed it lol

[torpid summit]

damn bruh

[fast ferry]

any ideas on how to pass this? im rly stuck

[inner hare]

Need help creating a general lineup

[icy rain]

Can someone help me to build a 3 good teams?

[icy rain]

Thanks

[sleek delta]

You lack right investment on your heroes to make a proper 3 teams. SI and furn department

[icy rain]

what?

[pale kettle]

You need to garrison Albedo for your Ainz asap and stargaze for Lucretia

[hollow valley]

Should I garrison albedo then switch with brutus?

[slate heron]

can someone help me set up 2 teams?

[slate heron]

my fault, I only need 1

What if I reset all my levels, would u still go with that?

and thats what i use already (desira)

alright thanks

[lusty osprey]

How can I improve this team to beat this part of the stage?

[slate heron]

i just got shemira, should i change that for any of these: Golus, Brutus, Diamond, Silas, Desira

[slate heron]

LOL alr

[vernal nebula]

how does my lineup look? do i need to adjust it in any way?

[vernal nebula]

i have treznor in my lineup because he is elite+ should i swap someone in and take him out?

[vernal nebula]

even tho she would take away my faction bonuses?

okay thank you

[paper bobcat]

Hi!

I know absolutely nothing in terms of decision making in this game, but I'd love to learn!

Thus

Can someone tell me who to use here hehe

Having a lot of difficulty beating this stage, and I feel like my hero pool has gotten really bad with no way to make it better, how do I fix this situation?

[novel star]

Tried a few comps cant seem to get this

[cobalt moth]

You have definitely f'd yourself pretty hard. If you look at the beginner's guides pinned in #classic-questions, you'll see that you're not supposed to concentrate on anyone other than your 5 fodder heroes at the beginning. And you don't push any of your other heroes until all of those fodder heroes are L+. And you never push anyone to L or L+ unless you have all of the copies you need to take them to full on Ascended. There are a couple exceptions (like Daimon who works well at M+), but that's the general rule. You've pretty much done all of those things you shouldn't have. The issue is that you never know which heroes you're going to get enough copies of and resources are scarce. So, you want to only put resources (especially your hero fodder) into those heroes you can take all the way to Ascended. Where you go from here...I don't know. You can at least start following these guidelines from now on.

[paper bobcat]

Yeah, clicking the first button I see with an exclamation mark for most of my time on the game can't have been good :,)

I will look at the guidelines

[cobalt moth]

I specifically recommend Phoenix's, since it has the correct meta on it. It may be a bit confusing at first, but the primary take away at your level is to focus only on the 5 fodder heroes shown in the bottom left. Make sure your wishlist is set according to what is shown in the top left.

[paper bobcat]

Now, I'm genuinely wondering, would it be a good idea to reset my account at this point?

If I really can't just reset my characters ^

[pale kettle]

Your selection of heroes is rough to put it lightly. You have chosen a few oddities to ascend and not only that, you committed the biggest mistake by making Legendary heroes before having 8 copies of a single hero.

it would be benefitial to restart but look at the bright side, now you know what not to do so you will certainly progress much faster!

[paper bobcat]

My selection of heroes was based on 'oo shiny button click', you're absolutely right

I'm going to reset

And do it right this time, I appreciate it :)

I can just switch servers, no?

[pale kettle]

Yes you can

[cobalt moth]

Just to put things in perspective, I don't have anyone but my fodder 5 leveled and I use the Resonating Crystal to make some of my better heroes kinda useful. And I'm almost as far in the Campaign as you are.

And I've only been playing for 3 weeks

[paper bobcat]

That is

Oof.

[cobalt moth]

Also pretty much F2P. I've put a couple dollars towards some monthly stuff, but I do not spend much on this. So...

[paper bobcat]

To be clear... A fodder is what?

A character you intend to use to level up others?

[wheat wagon]

What do i do here? Got +22 on daimon

[paper bobcat]

So reading through this guide, I realize that I am quite lost. Particularly in the 'ascensions" section. Lots of terminology I'm unfamiliar with

So if I'm to understand, my first step is to get the 5 mentioned fodder heroes to 160

What exactly is "ascending", actually?

Simply taking them up a tier by consuming another character?

[zenith cliff]

Returning player here, a lot of the hero are very new to me and I am wondering who I should use and who to put into the Crystal so far only have 3 slots and also what lineup should I be using.

[dim cairn]

assistance?

[inner hare]

Could anyone help me decide which units to put in my crystal/remove?

[keen rain]

add oden fera and perhaps gorvo, pretty much it

[inner hare]

Ah ok and should i make daimon into a L?

[keen rain]

i dont see why not. also try pushing ch12 to get a hero choice chest and get another daimon there, then try to get daimon to M asap

[inner hare]

alrightyy any lineup suggestions? im struggling with what to use

[keen rain]

what ch u on

[inner hare]

ch10

[keen rain]

prolly atalene, rowan, daimon then 2 flex between lyca fera oden etc

[inner hare]

ah who as my front row?

[keen rain]

daimon atalene lyca brutus

[earnest edge]

Any advice on lineup? Stuck trying to carry with saurus

[dim cairn]

floor lineups?

[lean nexus]

i would do daimon carry

if you have him mythic he'll carry you far

[wheat wagon]

This isabella is very annoying

[swift lantern]

Don’t know what to do, I’ve tried a lot

[wheat wagon]

just spitballing but
nara

izold
daimon
grez
oden

[swift lantern]

Wow that worked @wheat wagon

[wheat wagon]

it did?

[swift lantern]

Yeah after a few tries. I was convinced I had to use Nara to pull the meriha but I guess not

[wheat wagon]

odens portals are always annoying, thats all i know

[lean vapor]

Is Grez/Alna not worth using until you get alna with a lvl 30 signature item and 9 mythic furniture?

[fiery wing]

grez and alna = useless until 9f

grez = 20 is optimal, 30 is luxury
alna = her 30 is kinda needed for her too

[lean vapor]

Rip

[normal haven]

help please

[amber crystal]

Whos the best support/team mates for Ainz and Oden

[normal haven]

#classic-questions

[lean nexus]

=sgpriority

[pale kettle]

Yes

[paper bobcat]

Oui I made the new account following Tree's amazing guide, things are going good so far

First order of business, 5 fodders to 160

[pale kettle]

[paper bobcat]

I appreciate you all more than you know, ty :)

[pale kettle]

Use Nara or Athalia instead of Zaphrael

[lean nexus]

change rowan for eiron and zaphrael for nara

[normal haven]

i passed it couple hours ago 😅

[sturdy slate]

stuck chapter 9

@digital skiff

[digital skiff]

Yessir

Show enemy comp

[sturdy slate]

thing is, even if i manage to beat this specific stage (using mercs), ill probably get stuck later in this chapter again

[digital skiff]

Oden
Thoran
Mirael
Rowan
Arden/ferael/nara

[slender remnant]

Can anyone suggest me a team comp witch these, im new :)

Or what im using is good for now?

[digital skiff]

Did you read the pins?

[sturdy slate]

thanks, that worked after a few retries and lowering rowan's def for silvina

[slender remnant]

What part the google doc or the paragraph that said help new player?

[grand perch]

Hello @slender remnant,

Please check out the pinned messages/guides in the #classic-questions and #lineup-help channels.

[cobalt moth]

For the Blood Claw Quest, I have 5 challenges against the enemy. I am still super early game, but was hoping for some advice concerning my best lineup options with what I've got:

[digital skiff]

In #classic-questions

[digital skiff]

Yea, lemme know if you are stuck again

[pale kettle]

What's the highest damage team I can do for the boss of the blood claw event

[grim copper]

Try raku lyca aTalene and twins

[oblique phoenix]

Now that I don't have awakened Brutus idk what to do 😔

[ember rune]

What's the best team I can make for the boss of the blood claw event? (I got a maxed out Lucretia by the short term thing btw)

[pale kettle]

[silent shore]

honestly with raku's dodge u can tank him and put like lyca in back

[slate heron]

someone help me create a good lineup (pretend all of them are lvl 0)

[fiery wing]

tbh it really depends on where cause theres no general line up

but ur comp will around daimon as ur carry, rowan as ur main support, thoran as secondsry tank, abrutus/lucius, horse guy as ur main tank either desira, shem, mirael as ur 5th slot

[jovial cloak]

i’m not sure who else to put in this formation

[little loom]

I got an open crystal slot, i got lyca and rowan in it currently, who should go in?

here

[keen rain]

fera/oden or fera and oden

[little loom]

just curious as to why those two? would have thought eirron to have got the pick, heard he has some good dmg

[keen rain]

they both provide a lot of cc for your carry, eironn might be a good pick but i personally prefer the other 2

[little loom]

gonna go oden, he groups? could be good for mirael's aoe ability

[keen rain]

putting mirael in the mid back already ensures that her aoe ult hits everyone, but yeah oden can group enemies with help from another hero cc-ing

[little loom]

What about Vyloris?

Is she any good?

[lunar glade]

Can anyone help me for my treasure scramble 3 team Lineup

Also ainz

[paper minnow]

Okay so i recommend reading the pinned begginer guides in #classic-questions. It'll tell u what to do and mistakes to avoid. Ur not supposed to ascend heroes to L especiqlly shemira. Shemira sucks.

[tepid roost]

Is there anything that I can change

Please lmk

[coral pier]

Make sure you read beginner guides pinned in #classic-questions . They specifically say to not ascend ascended heroes to legendary and you already did that 2 times.

[tepid roost]

Oh I'm kinda new to the discord but I've played the game for a little sorry

[pale kettle]

Can someone help me figure out this game

[coral pier]

Read pinned guides in #classic-questions

[noble mist]

damn how does everyone new have celepoggers in their account

[coral pier]

Good rng

[severe grail]

What would be an OK Arcane Labirynth lineup? Daimon Mishka Lyca Tesi Desira?

[hazy oasis]

Just read up the newbie guide. I understand that graveborn has much more powerful units. Is this lineup good for newbie that just started playing? I should put all my resources into daimon right?

[neat rover]

Any suggestions?

[normal haven]

miraels ultimate keeps destroying me

[blazing aspen]

Stuck

[harsh urchin]

What can I do

[harsh urchin]

U can use wukong at that lvl

[keen rain]

ainz r3, 5p luc merc r1/r2, the rest on the other round, should be pretty easy esp with aw brutus

and try cheesing r1 instead to not waste a merc

[blazing aspen]

What should i do

[harsh urchin]

How am i gonna luc rosa then

[keen rain]

strong luc merc should generally work, otherwise do 5p or luc cheese with aezizh on rosa

[harsh urchin]

Nvm that was easy

Problem with ainz is hes not ulting twice

Changed it a bit and got him to ult twice

[blazing aspen]

So like what lineup should i use

[harsh urchin]

Just need to find out a way to beat r2 because its not really working with gb

[keen rain]

try grez abrutus oden rowan(or fera if rowan is unavai) raku

[harsh urchin]

Got it after some artis changes and heavy rng thx

[keen rain]

damn youre catching up to me

i should up my game

[coral trout]

Is this a good start? And what’s a good team to field for the campaign?

[paper minnow]

A good start indeed. Now go to #classic-questions and read the pinned beginner guides there so u know what to do and to avoid mistakes.

[coral trout]

Cool. Thanks!

[keen rain]

it's a decent start yes. read guides pinned in #classic-questions
just level daimon as much as you can and push

[paper minnow]

Remove flora and use someone else. Preferably someone with cc.

[undone folio]

How did you guys manage

Thoran and Zolrath in the same comp is cringe

[paper minnow]

I just skipped that 💀
The thoran+zolrath makes it so hard so win within 20 seconds.

[undone folio]

Despair

[abstract agate]

Do you think dumping a few haste/crit nodes into Grez might help pass this stage? Had on auto for over an hour to no avail. Maybe Mortas SI30 might help??

Grez currently E60

[royal stag]

Merc an E80

Thats what i did last night

[abstract agate]

Damn okay, might have to try that. What RC level did you pass it at?

[royal stag]

Oh nvm its 56 i thought its 60, E60 should be enough

[abstract agate]

Think I found your profile in my suggested formations lol

[royal stag]

459 for 41-56

Yeah thats me

[abstract agate]

Did it take many retries? Wondering if it’s a RC level issue since you have a few levels on me

[royal stag]

It was high rng

[abstract agate]

Good to know, thank you

[royal stag]

At the end ur 4 lvls higher should be doable atleast tomorrow

[fiery wing]

lucretia cheese

[pale kettle]

Chad apple

[fiery wing]

its my goto mv team lucretia random bs gooo

[pale kettle]

I don't see anything wrong with that

[fiery wing]

wrong? nooo its great

[paper bobcat]

Did you get 5 fodder to level 160 first

[hazy oasis]

No. I don't know what to do with my units rn😅 cus I just unlock a feature that let's me borrow ainz(saw it on tier list that he's good.) So I don't know I should focus on daimon or the borrowed ainz. I'm currently at chapter 10 rn

[paper bobcat]

Go to the pinned messages in #classic-questions and read Tree3's beginner guide

I see you have a legendary Belinda

From my understanding, that's a bad thing because now, she's stuck at that tier until you get more which is RNG-dependant

[paper bobcat]

this explains everything

[storm spindle]

Just got her.

How can she be used? I have wu kong, Eirin, Lyca and Respen and Pippa

[stoic breach]

How can this dude in suggestions clear this?
While I can't with better levels and higher level?

Please help.

[oblique nebula]

thoran needs high deficit to work, so having higher levels not helping but hurt ur cheese instead

[pale kettle]

1. Thoran needs, like previously mentioned, higher power difference
2. Most likely needs 5* call/eye maybe in your case
3. No need for engraving
4. 9f wouldn't hurt

[pale kettle]

please

[pale kettle]

Where Ainz

Too broke to regarisson

Probably gonna get enough soon though

[stoic breach]

Thanks

[stoic breach]

Thank you too.

[coral trout]

Who should I invest in for campaign? I heard Daimon is good and I like Graveborns

[pale kettle]

You have Alna and Grezhul which are staples of Alna GB (Oden, Fera and Silas with them), Scarlet and Daimon

[coral trout]

Who should I look at to put along with Daimon/Scarlet?

[pale kettle]

Oden, Alna and Lyca most likely

[coral trout]

Gotcha. Thanks!

[lime willow]

are there any comps i can put raku into? preferably with PoP

[pale kettle]

Charm

[lime willow]

mehira charm?

[tight juniper]

Yea and you can try to experiment with a comp that revolves around him.

[stable scroll]

Anyone here??

Which hero should I get from the box ??

That would be compatible with the team or should I reroll??

[proper orchid]

Flora @stable scroll

[stable scroll]

@proper orchid In place off and anyone to focus on gaining

[proper orchid]

Any better forms with what I have?

Highest damage was 903M/1B

[shell holly]

Should I put Ainz and Albedo on someone higher or are they okay on 1 stars?

[proper orchid]

It’s just better to take the celepogian bro

Star value means very little

As long as u have 1 engrave is unlocked

[shell holly]

Okay ty

[proper orchid]

You definitely should have engraved ainz by now tho

And remember Albedo +30 before ainz

[mild karma]

What should I work for? I know legendary is bad and normally should wait for legendary+. But still idk what teamcomp I should work on

[vivid scaffold]

Have you read the beginner guide pinned in #classic-questions ?

[open pendant]

Should i change something at my comp?

[shell holly]

Yeah I'm working on ainz just recently got him and albedo even more recently

[cobalt moth]

Have you read the beginner guides pinned in #classic-questions ?

[open pendant]

Yes

I'm talking about the heroes spots

[cobalt moth]

Just curious cuz it looks like you're levelling two different Miraels and a common hero.

[open pendant]

The lvl 11 mirael was a little mistake at the start only

and the Brutus is going to be reseted

[cobalt moth]

Have you tried putting Daimon up front instead of Hogar, then using Mirael in the middle back? That might give you some extra damage.

[open pendant]

The guide said i should have 3 sups and only one carry

[cobalt moth]

I am aware. It's just that is more for developed teams, which yours is not. Is this a campaign fight?

[open pendant]

Yup

[cobalt moth]

Then there's no harm in trying it, right? That's what I do. I try various combinations with the heroes I have available to me.

[open pendant]

I just got Rowan btw, maybe it's a better sup than desira?

[open pendant]

Going to try it

[cobalt moth]

Dude...Rowan is awesome. He wants to be middle back, same as Mirael, so you might have to try them in a few places before you find the best option. Don't forget Arden. His tangle can RNGesus your way to victory.

[open pendant]

Thx man :)

[cobalt moth]

No problem. At these early stages it's hard to understand which pieces of the meta advice apply and which don't. I'm in the same boat as you (maybe a week or two further but still using the first 5 heroes). I find I just play around a lot for the campaign and I land on things that work better for now, even if they're not really textbook. I figure I'll start using the more textbook approach as I develop my Epic heroes.

[potent oasis]

Anyone else getting absolutely creamed on the second-to-last Misty Valley stage? Any lineup advice, especially for the 4-Graveborn challenge?

Something is hard-nuking my entire team about 10-15 seconds in. Might be Morrow.

My available Graveborn heroes:

[fiery wing]

alna grez

[potent oasis]

My Alna and Lucretia are not built.

I know, I know: I should work on that.

[gray ermine]

Help don’t really wanna use my mercs tbh

[fiery wing]

u cant do that cause 3rd quest says no one should die

[noble mist]

Guys i'm stuck for awhile now on this stage. I tried to copy formations but most of them having flat T1 on Daimon, meanwhile i can't get T1 rocks to drop on my chest so im collecting guild points to buy them one by one...

[keen rain]

brutus daimon(or switch pos 1 pos 2) fera rowan lyca
have fun with rng

[noble mist]

aight ill try it

[spark gull]

what lineup should i use

[neat rover]

Any suggestions?

[keen rain]

rowan brutus daimon aezizh ferael(remove weapon)

[neat rover]

rowan and brutus front?

[spark gull]

^

[plush ore]

what should my team be? ( can always reset heroes )

[fiery wing]

at the first 10 chapters its more on daimon carry and put supports to win

[arctic inlet]

daimon carry with rowan support prob

[paper minnow]

Read pinned beginner guides in #classic-questions so u know what to do and to avoid mistakes. A lineup suggestion is also mentioned in the guides.

[coral trout]

Can I make an Alna Grez team with what I have? Should I even since I’m only at Ch7

[keen rain]

alna wants 9f, grez wants 9f, oden wants 9f, fera wants 9f, silas wants 9f

[normal haven]

help please

[thick otter]

i dont have haelus

[royal stag]

U can try Mishka

[signal nexus]

Pls help me build a comp around ainz, he's my strongest mage
For chapter progress

[keen rain]

if u want to go ainz carry u need albedo, otherwise dont bother
albedo ainz arthur and 2 flex

[signal nexus]

oof, so using ainz without albedo is pointless?

i'm missing 15 fragments for arthur and this is the first month renting out ainz

so should i stick with scarlet carry and do engraving on her first instead of ainz?

[keen rain]

pretty much. scarlet also wants investment but im not sure what. why not stick to daimon?

[signal nexus]

i invested a bunch already into daimon but i thought scarlet is a better carry
i'm using both in the comp atm, idk how to build a good setup for either tbh

[keen rain]

well putting 2 carries in a team is not a good idea since they need supports, without supports theyre trash. u cant imagine 5 carries in a team still working(prolly can)
daimon just do brutus daimon rowan and 2 flex

[signal nexus]

even tho my brutus is only e+?

[keen rain]

yes, he still has 7 seconds immunity. im at ch34 and im still using him at e+

[signal nexus]

dang

with brutus, daimon and rowan i can't really go for the stats bonus of 3 and 2 factories, what 2 flexes would you recommend?

so far until chapter 27 i literally used only 2 gb and 3 lightbeareres lol

[keen rain]

ignore stat bonus, team combos are still better.

flexes as in lyca thoran fera oden nara and so on

[signal nexus]

Oh, that helped me a lot, thank you!

[pale kettle]

Hii how do I counter mehira? I have Nara at E+ but not working

[zealous hatch]

Please help everything gets shredded and thoran instantly dies after revival. Am trying to get thoran SI30 currently.

[shy onyx]

If you're focusing on Ainz, then you need at least Albedo on your team, if you are trying Thoran cheese, then try smth with 5 pull, but I don't think Thoran will be good at that deficit

[zealous hatch]

My ainz is at about 10 days left and I have 150 dim stones. Shld I garrison albedo and spend more resources on more dim stones for ainz?

[shy onyx]

I wouldnt, you want Albedo because of her SI30, ask #classic-questions I'm not very good with resources management

[zealous hatch]

Btw does thoran only work well at high deficit

[shy onyx]

Thoran cheese is basically, when ulting (Si20/30, he can't die) receive a ton of dmg and then backfiring the dmg received to the enemy

If higher the deficit, higher the damage he receives, meaning more dmg dealing

There is also the thing of removing some def gear, but the deficit is more important

[zealous hatch]

Oh

I have like 3 gb mythic gear on him lol

[pale kettle]

Team for arcane

[fresh raven]

Good comp for her?

[dense bobcat]

I'm stuck, need help

[coral trout]

Just got Rowan. I replace Lyca with Rowan no?

[pale kettle]

no why not have both
im not sure but alna doesnt work at E i think u need her 9f

oh okk sorryyy nvm what i said

[worldly osprey]

Someone help

[worldly osprey]

Here

Ok

Didn't work

Ok

Ya ik

This game is rng based

What relics should I put on them?

No

Ok

SO CLOSR

Ya I am the worst at formations too but I am good at grinding

[pale kettle]

what should be changed? And what kind of heroes to get

[restive pike]

Working on a proper Team for Tower and Campaign for the early stages. Maybe someone has a few tips for a better lineup or what character to focus on.

[past frigate]

@pale kettle alna is stud in that lineup for me

[spare crest]

Any tips for a campaign team?

[keen rain]

pinned message in #classic-questions
daimon abrutus then flex between fera lyca oden thoran etc
dont take heroes to L

[keen rain]

ill assume that you havent passed ch12 yet. get daimon to L, lineup should be abrutus daimon rowan then lyca/ aezizh/fera(put in crystal)/grez
push til ch13, get another daimon from the chest, then get daimon to M, then si20. it should be smooth sailing til ch19ish

[keen rain]

your formation is fucked up, just do the standard daimon carry with daimon rowan brutus and 2 cc flex
your box is also extremely fucked with e60 daimon and a bunch of ascensions
push til multis with that since im SURE that your 309e60 daimon would be able to. 2nd team multis either get raku to M then si30 and run him or just run ainzbedo with ainz at 203/209(203 works earlier, but obv 209 is better) and luc at 300/303

but you should be able to run thoran cheese in some stages

[restive pike]

So Abrutus Daimon front, rowan back top and then whichever of the other 4 i want?

[dusty storm]

Anyone know a good early game hl 100+ shemira team? I have this rn but idk if it’s best I can make.

[midnight bronze]

Do you insist on shemira when she will be useless later?

[dusty storm]

ik she gonna be useless in the future. tbh i just wanna strong team comp that could be good in at least campaign. I'm just experimenting with shemira rn cuz i wanna use someone kinda flashy if u know what i mean.

[keen rain]

not whichever you want, it's more like stage dependent and you would want one over the other in some circumstances

[keen rain]

shemira fell off, use daimon as your carry, stop taking heroes to L, read guides
shemira is still strong until a point in the game where she'd be extremely useless so i dont think investing a bunch of fodders to her is worth especially that daimon could perform better

[dusty storm]

hm... team comp for daimon?

[keen rain]

for now do daimon abrutus rowan and 2 flex between oden lucius silas eironn

and once again read the guides pinned in #classic-questions , it will help a lot

[dusty storm]

alright thanks. my current team will still work until i get brutus correct?

[dusty storm]

yea, realized taking people to L was bad a bit too late. Shouldve joined this disc earlier. Also made the mistake of buying wukong off lab store to get him to E+ 💀

[keen rain]

dw those are fixable, at least you didnt make too much mistakes like other players

[dusty storm]

oh alr thanks

[dusty storm]

oh yea last question, what should I do after I lose abrutus after his trial ends?

[keen rain]

then you want another tank, pre 140 anyone could do, could be thoran grezhul lucius etc. post 140 you want a normal brutus to be your tank

[dusty storm]

alright thanks

what about formation? like who in front who in back?

[keen rain]

id put daimon in front as often as possible(to generate energy fast). but if he dies front, then put him back
healers and cc supports should also be back

[dusty storm]

what does cc stand for?

ah nvm crowd control

@keen rain how does this look?

Basically just remove shemira and put daimon in then?

[oblique phoenix]

This stage is an absolute nightmare, please advise (Daimon is +16)

[silk lava]

What’s the best lineup for second part of dune destroyer?

[paper minnow]

Get ur rc to lvl 141 so brutus unlocks the 7 seconds immunity. Then try:
Ferael
Brutus
Rowan
Daimon
Oden/arden/lyca

[keen rain]

das fine, dont forget to place daimon in crystal

[dusty storm]

is daimon not worth lvling up normally? cuz i lvled up shemira normally and i can just reset her and put the resources into daimon.

[keen rain]

yeah but eventually u want to level fodders to 160 if daimon is ascension capped
also dont level more than 5 heroes, it's a waste.

yeah as in it's worth*

[dusty storm]

oh alright. that leveling rule doesnt apply to crystal correct?

[keen rain]

what do you mean?

[dusty storm]

i mean that you should only manually level up 5 heroes, therefore heroes who are leveled from getting put in crystal do not obey this rule. correct?

[keen rain]

yup

[restive pike]

Even got daimon to mythic amd he's still useless

[dusty storm]

ight thx

[keen rain]

get his si to 20

[hushed sorrel]

What should I’d do here?

[restive pike]

Thatll take a long time, i have basically no SI ressources. But ill try that

[keen rain]

yup, just push and have fun

[dusty storm]

wait i should reset shemira right

I lvled her to 84 manually

[restive pike]

Finally doing its Magic, thanks for the help.

[valid zinc]

Who am I using out of these / what should I focus on ?

[desert meadow]

Im still learning whose good to use, who should i invest in? Im stuck on chapter 18-16 boss

[quasi wigeon]

That's a lot of legends

[neat rover]

Any suggestions?

[paper minnow]

Try:
Oden
Brutus
Rowan
Grez/daimon
Daimon/aezizh

[neat rover]

Closest i’ve ever gotten with ur layout

just brutus and warek always last 2 destroying

[neat rover]

Nvm I did it tysm

[paper minnow]

[maiden notch]

I beat that chapter just recently with graveborn toons I’m still new as well, but I used daimon , grezhul , kalene, thoran and talene , mines wasn’t red so you should be able to , I’m now stuck at 19-7

[pale kettle]

Hm alr, ty

[ruby summit]

What's the best team for this boss?

[normal haven]

help please

[rich fjord]

help noob 👍 idk who is good i just using this monkey to carry me

[paper minnow]

Try:
Daimon
Brutus
Rowan
Thoran
Arden/zaph/lyca

[paper minnow]

Read the pinned beginner guides in #classic-questions.

[rich fjord]

Tyty

[round crescent]

Is there any guides for teams for the cursed realem please?

[proven river]

look leaderboards

[cobalt moth]

Any thoughts? Scarlet keeps kicking the crap out of me

[pale kettle]

Graz, rako, daimon, oden, luke, and the 🦎 one idk his name fr😂, rawan, there's more but idk there name

[humble hazel]

any help? got stuck at 8-24

these are my elites if it helps, i have one resonating crystal slot left

[vocal rivet]

Try out: afkhelper.nax.is (website)

There WILL be a working lineup for you 👌🏼

[humble hazel]

ok then, thanks 🙂

[cobalt moth]

Still looking for help on this one. I can post my entire hero box if it would help. Maybe changing someone else into my resonating crystal might work?

[pale kettle]

Hi I'm a new player I'm stuck so just reset everyone

Help

[cobalt moth]

Look at beginner's guides in #classic-questions. I specifically recommend Phoenix's, since it has the correct meta on it. It may be a bit confusing at first, but the primary take away at your level is to focus only on the 5 fodder heroes shown in the bottom left. Make sure your wishlist is set according to what is shown in the top left.

[maiden notch]

For lower lvls I can tell you now daimon 160 carried me all the way to chapter 18 he pretty easy to get as well

[cobalt moth]

Not necessarily. I still know folks that are trying to get enough copies of him to get even to L+

[maiden notch]

Even the purple is good if you have a good team behind him I used all graveborn with talene the whole way I only been playing a week

Haven’t spent anything

There’s also another team that can carry you in guide

[pale kettle]

Please

[pale kettle]

You need to remove shemira from your wishlist

[paper minnow]

Try:
Ferael/oden
Atalene
Mirael
Rowan
Daimon

[cobalt moth]

Thank you. I had never thought of tanking with Rowan. That worked pretty well. 🙂

[paper minnow]

Try:
Ainz
Brutus/grez
Rowan
Albedo
Daimon/oden/ferael

[jovial hound]

Cant beat this level help please

[frail sandal]

this is mine

[pale kettle]

You have 2 heroes that aren't leveled at all, why is that?

[frail sandal]

oop wrong ones i didnt mean to put that there u see i was trying to follow the beginners guide get all 5 starters to L+ and 160 so i was just grinding for experience

[jovial hound]

Can you help me too

Please

[frail sandal]

but i cant do it

[paper minnow]

Removw eirron,wukong and thane. I dont think they're gonna help u. Send ur hero box.

[jovial hound]

Oh wait sorry wrong one

[pale kettle]

Oof that's rough, Have you tried using Rosaline instead of Eironn and Nara or Athalia instead of Wu Kong?

[jovial hound]

Wait sorry thats the wrong one so sorry

[pale kettle]

Show me what stage you're on and what heroes you are using? You can try fighting in the King's tower or doing the candy crush event in the Wonderous Pouch

[paper minnow]

U can reset hogan or mirael for now and lvl daimon instead. And just reset daimon later.

[frail sandal]

specter what u plan on i do? because u told me to follow the beginners guide as in starting with 5 starters to L+ 160,

[jovial hound]

This one i need help with this one

[frail sandal]

but daimon is rare rn like i mean mine is rare

[pale kettle]

Yes that's right. Just level up your main five, if those are the ones you are using in that screenshot, Mirael, Hogan, Arden, Theowyn and Anasta. Replace Anasta with Niru and Theowyn with Wu Kong. Level them both up 40 levels below Mirael

[paper minnow]

Like i said remove eirron,thane and wukong. I doubt they'll help u. Put a healer,another tank and someone with cc.

[paper minnow]

He'll still carry u even if he's elite.

[frail sandal]

than reset after? because my main 5 is Ardren, mirael, hogan, daimon, golsul or golul i forgot but

[jovial hound]

Btw im back after along time so i kindda dont know what those are like tank n cc im so sorry dont wanna be a pain in the a$$

Btw can you elaborate please

[frail sandal]

because u guys said to try to get the 5 starters to L+ so im confused because i my 5 main in fact i dont have rn im just tryinga get all of the characters i am followin to elite, wait i have an idea

[paper minnow]

Healer: rowan,silas,desira,talene(normal)
Cc: nara,tasi,pop,ferael,oden
Tank: someone that can tank....

[frail sandal]

I borred my mentors hero welp one of his

[pale kettle]

Hold on this is a bit too much info at once. Can you post a picture of your main 5 I'm not following sorry

[frail sandal]

my 5 main is the ones u told me, because u told me to follow the beginners guide so its the ones in the beginners guide

[vernal hemlock]

I cant best 33-20, can someome help me set a team up

[fast ferry]

any ideas on how to pass this? im really stuck

[keen rain]

try brutus daimon fera rowan lyca

[gray ermine]

Tough stage

The 2 assassin basically shreds through thoran, fera, and rowan and when Brutus finally dies daimon couldn’t use a 2nd ult also dies soon after

[ornate umbra]

im trynna thoran cheese, furthest ive come is 1.2b dam,

[ornate umbra]

yeah nvm i just went with random teams

[young bolt]

Some1 save me. I've tried this like 1500 times to no avail. Ive switched gear, relics etc. Nothing

[young bolt]

I recommend avoiding thoran cheese at low deficits like that. Its not even really necessary at that point.

[proven river]

if you got hodkin build try that

[slate heron]

i’m at chapter 11, i’m not rlly progessing. can someone help (i have duras drape, call, eye and grace)

it’s also fine if i have to reset one of my characters

[wheat wagon]

get ur daimon and rowan up asap, legendary fodder (mirael/golus) not good to use generally, can i see ur wishlist?

any suggestions here?

[vocal rivet]

Nara opposite of isabella (fawkes could also work with a lot of rng)

[wheat wagon]

just got it, thanks tho

[north bone]

Hey, I'm currently at 9-35 and having a hard time clearing stages now, I can, but most of the time, I have to " cheese " it by replaying multiple times hoping for better interactions, I think the " full fodder " team (Mirael - Golus - Arden - Hogan - Silvanna) is reaching it's own limits
(I'm missing a couple fodders to attain L+ on the one that aren't yet, but I'm mostly missing the purple dust to go past +120)

So I was thinking, should I try throwing some heroes in the resonating thingy and maybe I would have an " easier " time ?
Keep in note that tomorrow I should have the last 5$ offer for Daimon shards (currently at 45 on 60), which would give me " enough copies " to L+ him
I have also 35 factions scroll that I plan on using on the GB factions ?

Thanks a lot !

[vocal rivet]

Just keep on following guides and you’ll be fine. Totally normal to retry stages couple of times to get the right rng. Has nothing to do with „cheesing“ the stage. In later chapters you’ll need to retry 1000+ times per stage to get the win, so you’ll be fine with just a few ones for now.

[north bone]

Ok i see thanks !

[torn pasture]

Anyway for me to beat this stage? Awakened Brutus carried me and now I'm stuck without him lol

[coral trout]

Who could I replace with Silas?

[pale kettle]

Is this a good team if not who should I switch out for who

[mystic sinew]

Can anyone advise how to get this lineup to clear? Is it failing because i dont have nemora 9f?

[fiery wing]

why not copy other ppl r1

[royal stag]

Lemme check

@mystic sinew u need 9f Nemora or another comp

[jolly stirrup]

is LoN Ezizh good for hypogean tower? or i have enough to get a single copy of him rn

[ornate umbra]

i tried 5 times

[fiery wing]

5.. times

[ornate umbra]

yeah otherwise their levels wont match mine and they overleveld

[autumn rover]

so, don't know how to make up a team from what i have. Can someone help?

[coral trout]

Any advice?

[mystic sinew]

Thanks for clarifying, I saw another clear on afkhelper using queen instead of nemora. I'm getting quite close with this comp, was wondering whether it would help to +20 ezio?

[royal stag]

I merc'd him for 41-44 but used mine at 41-56 and 60 at 000 so i guess ur fine

[mystic sinew]

Oh cool thats good to hear, i'll just do more retries first then, guess its about some mad rng dodges and crits. Thanks for the tips bro

[autumn rover]

how long does it take to get a response here? or there just no people who can help right now?

[dawn anvil]

Stuck AF

[rain mural]

Just don’t use athane in pve

[rain mural]

Upgrade and build your oden

[acoustic sparrow]

why not?

[pale kettle]

Anyone can help?

[fiery wing]

at his stage athane doesnt do much

[steady loom]

Good lineup?

[cobalt moth]

I'd recommend the beginner's guides in #classic-questions.

[pale kettle]

who should I get up to e60?

[tight juniper]

#classic-questions and nobody, stop engraving random heroes.

[pale kettle]

Oh ok

[rain mural]

those engraves tho 😭

[fiery wing]

no one

[pale kettle]

I was really dumb, I thought everyone should have e30

[noble mist]

yo guys i require some help. been switching things up but haven't found a good formation that looks promising. enemy team is so defensive and offensive.

[rain mural]

Don’t use eirron

[noble mist]

his succ is bad on this stage?

[rain mural]

No, just won’t do damage, and just bright the enemies closer

[fiery wing]

try removing his weapon (fereal)

[noble mist]

oh? what does removing his weapon do? i saw some formation actually getting rid gears on some units and I always wondered why

[fiery wing]

he fears faster

[noble mist]

i see.... what should I replace eironn with?

lucius shield really messed me up lol

[paper minnow]

Why does he fear faster?

[wheat wagon]

how do i go about winnin gthis

[keen rain]

it somehow changes his skill order
with weap he'd do cursed arrow>fear but without weap he would do fear first. not sure why but yeah

[noble mist]

i begin to think i might be just underleveled with RC 180 ngl

[slate heron]

someone help me, i can’t progress anymore. (able to reset characters, first 4 artifacts)

[keen rain]

not really, iirc i pushed to ch27/28 with that rc

[noble mist]

im trying to look for formations and everyone is on 200 RC.. been stuck pretty hard here

so far doing
rowan brutus frontline and daimon, ferael, oden backline has the best kinda attempt

[keen rain]

use macro
push 20 stages a day
B)
anw might be because i spend hours playing afk before to grind that hard, when i was at ch30 i only had 2-3 A and rc 240/220/200(daimon at 240, other A at 220)

[noble mist]

i'm using macro rn. approximately on bosses stage it took me 1400 tries

i'm so tempted to take my M rowan and M raku to M+ so i can break these crystal. but i dont have enough copies to make them ascended

[keen rain]

yeah that might be a problem. but if you have a lot of excess food and no one important in the same fac is nearjng 8, there shouldnt be a problem.
my dumbass took numisu to M+ for rc200 before and he's my 3rd ascended in maulers, didnt hinder me much if i say so myself

[noble mist]

Here is my current box. in LB, the closest to 8 copy would be Rosaline. in Mauler it's Tidus, and in Wilder its Raku/Lyca. GB got plenty of 8 copies (working on Grez rn) but severely lacking in fodders... Do you reckon i should just break the RC to 200 by taking Rowan and Raku to M+ or should I just really wait? (maybe for rosaline or grez)

[keen rain]

imo taking raku to M+ is safe since mish is nowhere near 8 copies.
as for lb, taking rowan to M+ might not be a great idea. scarlet and rosa is lined up and you might lack fodders. if it's just rosa or just scarlet, it may be ok, but both are important. if you want to take this risk on lb you could do it
for maulers i wont do tidus, might not have great impact on tower but if u want to do it go ahead since the heroes are severely lacking copies, you might have a ton more fodders by the time you get those copies

[noble mist]

this is great. thanks man for the insight!

[coral trout]

This is a good lineup for campaign right?

[steady loom]

Is this stage beatable with my current heroes and levels I've been trying to mix em up but failed each time

[steady loom]

I beat it after getting everyone to 60 and finally E+ mirael

[keen rain]

@noble mist oh yea sorry for the ping. i forgot to ask earlier, what app did you use to combine images without losing the resolution?

[pale kettle]

Best team I can do for the circus tour?

[noble mist]

i use apps called InCollage in android

[keen rain]

thanks!

[noble mist]

[steady loom]

I think this is a good team comp based on what I see in the guide and I right or wrong?

[paper minnow]

Early on team comps doesnt matter. Just run a team of 1 carry,1 healer,1 cc and maybe 2 tanks.

[coral pier]

The guide says to use Wukong to solocarry until lvl 100

[steady loom]

I'll give it a try but Ive has better runs with mirael than wukong last time I played a while ago

[sterile elm]

Can someone pls help me build my team

[wheat coral]

Hey I’m on chapter 33. Would anyone be willing to help me devise 3 teams?

[keen rain]

post box

[keen rain]

ok i dont know why u have e60 lucius and everything
but sth like this ig. unlock arthur garrison ainz
ainz albedo arthur tasi rowan
daimon silas ferael lucius brutus
and thoran cheese, pretty much works without si30 at ch33.
your box is kinda messed up i wont be able to point out the mistakes.
focus on ascending raku, and getting his si to 30 as he is a team by himself
same with thoran and bedo(if u garrisoned her).
no need to starchase.
get grez to 9f THEN get ainz to 9f

so uh, stop ascending random heroes
stop engraving random heroes
and stop upping furns and si's of random heroes. you can refer to the commands in #classic-questions to set your priorities straight.

[wheat coral]

Well it’s messed up I guess in your eyes cause I’m super casual, haven’t really looked too into the game’s meta. As for Lucius, he’s my favorite so that’s why he’s got as many resources dumped into him as he does.

Thanks for the tips tho

[keen rain]

so you plan to e80 lucius?

[wheat coral]

Possibly. Though if I’m not mistaken, he’s considered trash so I might not

[keen rain]

anyways thoran cheese and/or ainzbedo might not be usable so you could also run morrow carry, not sure how he performs

[wheat coral]

I think he performs well. Another favorite of mine but since I don’t really research this game and I just play it, I’m not sure if he’s good. Didn’t know he was a carry either

[digital skiff]

[arctic chasm]

Line up suggestions? @digital skiff

[digital skiff]

Can i see your full hero box

@arctic chasm

[arctic chasm]

@digital skiff

[digital skiff]

Put mirael in your rc

[arctic chasm]

My defender 1 - 3 hit ded

[digital skiff]

Do

AwkTalene
Thoran
Mirael
Awkzizh
Daimon

And choose AWKtalene skill

[arctic chasm]

So that old lineup what unit should i reset?

[digital skiff]

None, just put mirael in resonating crystal

[arctic chasm]

Mirael max level at 160 right?

[digital skiff]

Yes but she's gonna be capped at lvl 120

Without yellow border ascension

[balmy mountain]

Lineup suggestions or who to focus on?

[keen rain]

focus on taking daimon to M. dont take anyone else above E+. read guides in #classic-questions . reset saveas and take daimon to 140, saveas to 120. daimon should always have the highest lv.
lineup is daimon, brutus(if resonating crystal level is above 141) or alna as your tank, then flex supports and cc between oden nara silas and lyca depending on the stage.

also fix your wishlist if you havent

[autumn rover]

so, because of daimon not droping for me, that's my team. Can i get some lineup suggestions?

[keen rain]

ofc he's not 'working' for you because you only have E daimon and an A shem, the difference would be obvious...

[autumn rover]

im talking about him not droping from scrolls, guess who drops))

so there's just no way for me to make him higher rank

so... no ideas?

[kind nest]

Try swapping rowan and Daimon

[kind nest]

Or somehow use Ferael instead of grezhu lto trigger Raku +30

Should be able to dodge frontline

[worldly osprey]

Could someone help?

[azure sphinx]

thanks this worked

[kind nest]

Remember to upload to AFK helper, so it Can help others

[azure sphinx]

I already clicked continue :l

[twin pasture]

Guys I am currently stuck at 10-32, any tips on who to use please?

[royal stag]

Read pinned guides in #classic-questions

[restive pike]

Howdy, im still working on a proper team for the campaign and tower. My abrutus is starting to fall off since im not getting any more copies.
Got ainz today in the garrison and im working on getting him to a point where he is actually doing something. Any recommendations for a setup to focus on?

Current team, sometimes im swapping a hero or two to try stuff

[fresh wave]

Mauler tower 439, feels like whatever comp I try my guys just unsubscribe from life immediately

[half atlas]

any tips?

[gentle kayak]

Try this

[twin ermine]

Someone pls help me out a bit it’s floor 30-60

Anyone with some time ? Would really appreciate if

It*

[dusk veldt]

Tips on who to focus on and start? 🙂

[slate heron]

someone help me, i can’t progress anymore. (able to reset characters, first 4 artifacts)

[dusk veldt]

where is it

nice thanks 🙂

[twin ermine]

I will try, Thank u 🙏🏼

[slate heron]

okay

[twin ermine]

It ain’t working

[rapid sage]

What should the 2 teams be for lb tower?

[acoustic latch]

Help

[paper minnow]

Oden/Aezizh/rowan
Daimon
Rowan/aezizh
Brutus/thoran
Thoran/brutus

[acoustic latch]

what?

sooo oden aezizh rowan back line and what?

[tight juniper]

They meant to put Daimon and Brutus or Thoran Frontline. The backline choices consist on it being Oden, ezizh or Rowan fighting for backline.

[acoustic latch]

oke ty

still get shreded

[acoustic latch]

athalia and belinda is dealing the most damage

and also thane

I tried this and it was close until athalia ult

[ember rune]

I get absolutely melted, but I get everyone to half health when talene ults (I have a Eironn and a Gwyneth at the bottom)

I tried to use Skreg to push the enemies into Krnes bombs

But Skreg just died right away lol

[acoustic latch]

talene/bear/rowan/silas/krnes

just press in that order, see if it work

[ember rune]

Everyone died lol

[acoustic latch]

kek

[ember rune]

Not even a ult from my team💀

Walker op 😎

[acoustic latch]

wat .-.

[ember rune]

I’ve also been stuck for 2 days now 🥲

[lunar jacinth]

hi new to the game and was wondering what lineup i should run here is my box

I am liking wu kong and shemira atm

[paper minnow]

Read the pinned beginner guides in #classic-questions so u know what to do and to avoid mistakes. There's a lineup suggestion there and wishlist. Also ignore shemira she's 💩

[lunar jacinth]

aw i thought she looked cool

[hushed dagger]

Shemira isn’t 💩. When the game came out she was the number one carry for early game. That said, Daimon is better now so you won’t want to spend fodder on shemira. Also those beginner guides he mentioned are very good and you should read them. Shemira is also used for one tr boss when you get much much further in the game. So cheer up. You’ll get to use her again 😉

[cobalt moth]

As a noob myself (been playing for just under a month), one of the things the beginner's guides didn't cover, but I found incredibly useful, is how to Ascend my heroes in a way that doesn't block me but still conserves hero slots.

1. Always ascend your R to R+
2. Always ascend your E to E+

Between doing that and just using your fodder towards ascending your main 5 heroes further, you shouldn't run into the problem I did of running out of hero slots. 🙂

[sharp lodge]

Day 3 of the game for me. Semi stuck. Didn't know about Bok's guide so I releveled my toons with 1 Daimon and 4 Fodder. Assuming I need to just put in the A tier heros in the RC and mess around with comps?

[fiery wing]

uhm why not ascending daimon

[sharp lodge]

Was trying to watch a video on ascending. Didnt want to mess up anything. But apparently i get a 4th copy in chapter 12 so I should ascend him right?

[fiery wing]

ascending to E+ isnt bad, but ascending past E+ is bad unless you have 4 copies of that hero and fodders thats the general rule, you could check the pins on #classic-questions and dont watch guides on youtube they are kinda outdated

[sharp lodge]

Is auto ascend safe to use?

[fiery wing]

yes

[dawn anvil]

Help pls

[icy plover]

Can u guys help me on this?

[cobalt moth]

What does auto-ascend do? I've been terrified it's going to screw me over.

[fiery wing]

its just ascend ur double copies

[cobalt moth]

So E to E+. That's it? It doesn't do anything else?

[fiery wing]

yes

and fodders too R to R+

[cobalt moth]

Nice. Thanks!

[fiery wing]

[cobalt moth]

Turning that on should be in the beginner's guide. Much easier than explaining to folks that they need to ascend to R+ and E+ to conserve hero slots

[fiery wing]

yeaa auto ascend is should always been doing, but smart ascend says otherwise

[dawn anvil]

Some help would be great

[slate heron]

someone help me with a lineup

[wheat wagon]

stuck here, using thoran so they can get off daimon

nvm, rnged it somehow

[cobalt moth]

I think you may have completely screwed yourself on ascending Daimon that second time. You only need E+ copies of heroes for ascensions. I'm afraid you having that second daimon at L is just wasting everything. I'd recommend looking at the beginner's guides so you can know what type of thing to avoid, like ascending heroes that you don't have copies for. I think you may want to get someone else's advice on how to fix it, cuz to my untrained eye, it looks too broken. Good luck.

[slate heron]

Thank you. I almost had Diamon ascended again tbh

[near citrus]

U can still save it

U can revert the hero

[near citrus]

I ud try putting thoran and daimon in the front line and lyca Rowan Oden serially at the back...and if u see the taši is problematic, then u can try pulling it with Nara

[worldly osprey]

Help?

[slate heron]

which hero?

[near citrus]

Ur daimon

[near citrus]

.

[slate heron]

i have no other heroes to progress, my daimon is the only damaging one

[near citrus]

Yes but u have two of him to legendary....u should not do that...the one at legendary plus stays but revert the other one...u should get two elite plus copies which is enough to get ur legendary plus daimon to ascended...just need fodder for mythic and mythic plus

[slate heron]

ohhh, alright

ill dm you

[near citrus]

U can try ainzing it .. like save ur ainz till he gets his ult

[worldly osprey]

?

wdym saving ainz

[near citrus]

Like place daimon Infront of him and Brutus besides him

So they have to kill them to get to ainz

It gives him the time to get enough energy for his ult

[worldly osprey]

ok

[pale kettle]

Can anyone reccomend me a good team comp? I’m at 10-40 Rn

[worldly osprey]

nah not working

[stable ember]

Team will be variable based on what you go against. Core will likely be Daimon stuck behind rowan or brutus, ferael for cc etc.

You should read the beginner guides pinned in #classic-questions though, some bad ascensions and wasted fodder on L heroes you can't make L+

[spark gull]

assistance

[main geode]

#classic-questions

[quartz bison]

A good or average support is needed

[pale kettle]

help

[paper minnow]

Remove pippa in crystal and put desira/silas in. Try:
Scarlet
Mishka
Silas/desira
Hogan
Ferael

[pale kettle]

Oke thanks!

[jovial hound]

Help me please stuck on 21-60

[lean nexus]

That shemira though

You need to get daimon built asap

[jovial hound]

bruh idk why i dont get daimon through summons that much

[wheat wagon]

This stage is not rngable in any way, antything i can do at all?

[orchid nexus]

Feels like i’m pretty close but also too far to luck it out..maybe just a small tweek could help me get that 2M

I don’t have harlus or a-talene built

[lusty osprey]

How is this the hardest part about this stage?

[orchid nexus]

Don’t use thoran.. thoran is absurdly bad, he’s one of the worst hero in the game if you’re not ready to wait hours until he works

Unless you go past 130 deficit thoran will basically never be better than pretty much any other hero

[lusty osprey]

What would you suggest I'd be doing instead?

[orchid nexus]

Maybe put daimon in front and try to put a support behind him

[lusty osprey]

Wow, that actually worked

[orchid nexus]

I've played this game for more than 3 years now, and the only time I ever won a single fight using thoran was after 2 hours of retries

he's the worst easily top three worst hero in the game for casual players..
I said to a whale friend, "jeez I was at 130 deficit" and he told me, "Thoran gets better once you hit some actual deficit", I honestly don't feel like playing like that, i'd rather win a multistage in 20 minutes after a few tweeks than retry for hours teams that aren't mine..

Hodgkin/daimon, grez then oden, silas (mid) and ferael..
Oden and ferael , just like front row can be swapped, silas stays position 4

usually you want to get alna ascended pretty quickly to get her F9 (right away) and she's the best team mate for grezhul cuz she gives him invulnerability for a few seconds..

[pale kettle]

please help I don't want to be stuck on a stage for a week again

[orchid nexus]

essaie grez daimon oden rowan, rosaline et met rosa sur daimon

[spark gull]

assistance

[fiery wing]

fereal/lyca

thoran
eirron
brutus
daimon

[merry echo]

Screenshot (Jul 17, 2022 7:07:08 PM)

still new, dont understand things well enough to formulate proper team @_@

Shemira is not the day 7 one, so I'll be able to promote her then

[fiery wing]

have u read the pinned guides on #classic-questions ? btw shemira is meh

[pale kettle]

Might carry at low level

[neat sleet]

Should I switch up anything?

[pale kettle]

Need advice for beating 14-14

[paper minnow]

Try:
Daimon
Rowan
Nara
Brutus
Ferael

[pale kettle]

These are my heroes

[pale kettle]

Got it Tysm

[valid zinc]

Feel like o don’t really have a tank to absorb the dmg I take kinda strugglin só any suggestions

[paper minnow]

More like u dont have a healer. Put astar in crystal her dmg reduction might help u survive initial burst.

[valid zinc]

👍

[valid zinc]

@paper minnow anything else you would suggest me doing ?

[paper minnow]

U can put athalia in crystal too. She's like a nara she can cc annoying enemies like isabella,arden,etc.

[uncut zenith]

hey can someone suggest me a team that will help get from ch4 to ch15 pretty easly?

these r my charac, you can put anyone in the suggestion, ill try and get them in any way possible

[fiery wing]

have you read the guides on #classic-questions ?

[valid zinc]

Thanks

[paper minnow]

Read the pinned beginner guides in #classic-questions. There's a team suggestion there.

[uncut zenith]

I did, but can it actually get me to chpt15 in less than like a month?

[paper minnow]

Yes probably in around 2-3 weeks u can reach ch15 if u follow the guide and u get lucky with daimon copies.

[keen rain]

my alt got to ch15 in 1 week by playing 'optimally'

[vital mist]

Can kill everyone here except Mehira somehow, one thoran ult with some rng kills 4 of them but when it comes to Mehira She just doesn't care and slaps him and that's enough to lose

[wheat wagon]

What do i do here? Ive tried a bunch of stuff and it just isnt working

[fiery wing]

i reached chapter 15 within 2 weeksp

im still less than a year playing this game and i’m on chapter 40 now

just read the guides and play optimally and ask help through discord and you’ll clear campaign stages in no time

[proven river]

Arthur, ABrutus, Farael, Rowan, oden maybe

[safe tide]

@proven river thank you, worked 👏

[proven river]

np

[fiery wing]

silas

daimon
desira
thoran
oden

but ur still too early but try that

[broken panther]

Thoran or oden to ascended?

[fiery wing]

oden

[dusk veldt]

So I JUST got my first daimon, woohoo. Any tips on lineup? I’ve checked guides but some confuse me as I’m fairly new here

[quartz fern]

I would say daimon to elite plus if possible, Brutus for the immunity to let daimon carry, try to get sylas to elite plus, his cloud is really good, then go with two or whatever you need. I usually go a tank with oden to disrupt things, or two tanks, maybe a support if you need

Only ascend to legendary plus if you can, don’t get to legendary and waste fodder because you need that early game.

[dusk veldt]

Awesome dude. Currently I can't ascend any, so just wait, buy x10 summons, etc etc?

I'm only 8 days in, I think, if that, just spend my first $1 to get Daimon lol

[quartz fern]

Wait, yoy need to wait for a while to progress. I wouldn’t get to spending anything until you are further in because it might get too boring for you and you’ll ditch. That’s a good buy I would say

Make sure to focus only on one faction for the faction scrolls.

[dusk veldt]

Graveborn isn't it? Have the best units

[quartz fern]

I like them, I think maulers are kinda bad, wilders have good carries, and graveborn seem strong all around. I think it’s not recommended to go light since they have four blue fodder champs, making it harder to get fodder to eat for ascending

[keen rain]

u dont need 2 tanks if ur gonna frontline daimon

[restive pike]

This was my team so far, but it feels like ive hit a wall for a few days now, my ainz and daimon dont survive long enough to properly deal damage. Any recommendations?

[proven river]

Prob cause lvl 1

[paper minnow]

Why is everything lvl 1?

[restive pike]

I reset my Heroes, been trying some things

[paper minnow]

I see. A team u can try is Daimon,rowan,normal brutus,2 flex.
This team should take u to ch20 easily.

[restive pike]

Only have one elite brutus copy rn. Elite+ for rowan :/

[paper minnow]

It doesnt matter what ascension brutus/rowan needs. Brutus only needs lvl 141 so he has longer immunity. Rowan is there for his potions.

[restive pike]

Dang, cant get brutus to 141 because i dont have a 5th legendary+ 😫

[paper minnow]

I see. Work on getting a 5th L+ then.

[restive pike]

Alright, done. Got me 2 stages done. Now ill stick to farming more essence to get the levels up further

[keen rain]

can your ainz kill the enemies after tgoal+ult?

[grim copper]

yeah he sweeps the first half, i got issues with the second one

@keen rain

[keen rain]

you tried cheesing r1 yet?

[grim copper]

i've no idea what that means

[keen rain]

have u tried thoran cheese on round 1 yet

[grim copper]

not yet, i also got the bunny boy this time

[keen rain]

try this r1, if no ezizh use lyca
then for r2 do
bedo

arthur
ainz
fodder/cc or some random shit(to proc bedo 3f)
nara call

everyone should die except bedo and ainz, ainz triggers tgoal after bedo protects him, ults, wipes almost everyone then ults again
not sure if this scenario will happen though

[grim copper]

i'll try it, thank you

[keen rain]

not sure if thoran cheese will work with low deficit so could also try
raku

brutus
silas/fera
grez
oden
r1

also is my run available in your formation tab? hell that i wasnt able to save my ch32 runs

[grim copper]

@keen rain thoran just sleeps and dies

[keen rain]

hmm i see, try raku gb on r1 instead

[grim copper]

pretty much doesn't work too

[keen rain]

ah forgot that grez doesnt have 9f. try using daimon instead and swap oden and raku

[paper minnow]

Try:
Ferael
Grez
Rowan
Brutus
Raku

[royal stag]

Only Hodgkin needs barricade

[grim copper]

@keen rain is thoran supposed to die while the second ult?

[keen rain]

yep, but no if he has si30

[grim copper]

bruh

so i have to replay more, that's unfortunate

[pale kettle]

Stuck on 15-36 and lineup ideas?

[wheat wagon]

Show me the stage

[blazing moth]

Any good line up ?

[lean nexus]

make daimon monster

[wheat wagon]

?

[lean nexus]

lockout both fawkes and tasi somehow

have rowan so daimon can ult quicker

and brutus to keep 1 or more enemy stalled

idk

base team
daimon
brutus>
eiron
thoran>
ferael

thoran could be switched with lyca, aezizh, atalene, rowan
ferael could be switched with oden, lyca, aezizh, nara, etc
eiron could be switched with rowan, oden, nara etc
@wheat wagon idk if this helps lmao
honestly just experiment

[wheat wagon]

Im givin up, gonna have to stay here and wait for merc

[lean nexus]

you gonna wait for a week?

wanna add me i need some active friends also you can see what formation i used

142931340 is my id

[wheat wagon]

Added

[restive pike]

Got back onto my old account and im looking to get it back up and running to continue on it.
My primary team is working really well (top line of my heroes) but im missing a proper second and third team for the campaign. Does anyone have some recommendations what to work on next?

[low thorn]

recvomendations?

[cloud plinth]

Trying to build a team around shemira as the carry (shemira, fawkes, lucius, rosaline and rowan) but its hard getting the other 4 heros. So while I'm trying to get them, what's the best lineup I can have with what I've currently got

[royal stag]

Read pinned guides in #classic-questions

Shemira is dudu

[cloud plinth]

I was told its a really good carry, or was she nerfed

[royal stag]

She was in 2019 but now her son (Daimon) is the best early game carry

[cloud plinth]

Oh ok

[quaint pawn]

Hi guys, I’m finally at the 3 team level and need help making them. Also would love suggestions of what heroes to focus now! Thank you for all suggestions!
(Only linked heroes are tasi and Arthur)

[oblique nebula]

Anyone have an easier clear for this?

[safe hazel]

That's the best one I saw, spent almost a week macroing that

[royal stag]

That shyt looks like 41-56...60

[oblique nebula]

bruh a week!, and other rounds aren’t free too
campaign is so shit now

[safe hazel]

Yeah, I just want my gazers from reaching ch 40, then I will stick to max 1 multi a week

[royal stag]

Welcome to my World

[valid zinc]

Help

[pale kettle]

Stage 11-8 tower 139 who should I pick?

@valid zinc try to get better synergy in your team with same faction

[valid zinc]

Doesn’t help clear it tho

[pale kettle]

Level up daimon more til he's max he will carry mostly early on

As long as he's alive long enough to ult a couple time should be easy

[valid zinc]

Yeah but

I don’t have the resources :/

[fiery wing]

nara

[versed light]

Only if they don't have a nara. If so then take the scrolls

[stark iron]

help pls, i tried everything

[proven river]

Arthur, Brutus, Daimon, Rowan/Nemora, Oden/Farael/Lyca

[lean nexus]

lmao

[gentle kayak]

This one was RNG good luck

[ivory karma]

Any better idea?

[fast ferry]

any ideas on how to clear this stage? I'm stuck

[obtuse sun]

Other than charm comp, who are the best heroes to pair with Raku?

[keen rain]

raku cc
ldv mishka etc
or oden fera etc

[royal stag]

Or Queen 5pull

[wraith sail]

Can o get some help in wich one should I focus to team up?

[eager scroll]

Help

[kind nest]

Try afk helper

[rain zinc]

Which hero out there should i stargaze next?

[oblique nebula]

Mortas then khazard

[sharp spoke]

Help pls

[quaint pawn]

Can anyone recommend me a team for expedition boss for the final 300 milestone

[hushed sorrel]

What should I do here, I accidentally used my merc earlier so now I can’t merc through it

[wheat sluice]

Just need a team build to do campaign and focus on upgrading

[paper minnow]

Try to use rowan instead of silas. Remove thoran/alna for someone with cc. If u have aezizh freeze arden.

[paper minnow]

Read the pinned beginner guides in #classic-questions .

[hushed sorrel]

Don’t have ezizh

[paper minnow]

Try nara or ferael. The arden root is gonna fuck u up.

[hushed sorrel]

Who r cc heroes??

[paper minnow]

The ones ive mentioned. U can also try athalia if u have her.

[hushed sorrel]

No athalia

[paper minnow]

I see u can try eirron and see if it works. Pull the arden. Try nara too.

[hushed sorrel]

Thank u

[lusty osprey]

It's always the weakest team that gives me the hardest time

[wheat sluice]

Some of them is not in the guide tho so idk what is their role

[paper minnow]

Try asking in #classic-questions whether a hero is good or what does the hero do. From what i can see in ur box:
Healer: numisu
Cc:ferael,oden,tidus
Tank:grez,thoran
Carry: wukong,mirael

[obtuse sun]

What’s the best Ainz comp for PVE (chapter37+)? @ me

[acoustic latch]

Team die too fast, help

[little loom]

Hey guys any tips on which to level until I get to the resonate crystal to put characters in? Gonna reset them and do the common heros maxed out with my main ones in the crystal, just need a 5 to choose till then

Also, what position should I place them in until then? What are some good characters to pair with talene? I need some that boost energy fast for her ult, as it's wiping stages very quickly lol

[paper minnow]

Id do atalene,niru,arden,mirael and a mauler hero (L tier). I assume u have read the pinned beginner guides in #classic-questions .

[little loom]

Yep, thank you! And use talene for the carry?

[paper minnow]

U can just put talene frontline so she generates more energy.

Yes talene is fine to use as carry for now instead of wukong.

[little loom]

Okay, then I'll put my daimon in the crystal first, I know I get 2 slots at first....who else should I put in? Rowam?

[paper minnow]

Yes daimon and rowan.

[little loom]

@paper minnow Pushing as fast as I can to reso crystal but tryin f to do as much of the kings tower as possible as well to get the hero essence, don't wanna use my bagged stuff until I get stuck.

[paper minnow]

Keep it up

[fiery wing]

ainz

arthur
merlin
bedo
mortas

[obtuse sun]

What does my mortas need to be(Si, furn)

[keen rain]

si20

[fiery wing]

E works fine but sig20 helps team by a lot

[little loom]

@paper minnow Holy hell! I just rolled a Khazard too! He's going in the crystal next!

[fiery wing]

khazard wont help u

[fast ferry]

really struggling here, any ideas?

[obtuse orchid]

I want start stargazing for another hypogean for my infernal fortress team. Any suggestions? (not legendary ezizh)

[wheat sluice]

What do i use for these

[lean nexus]

what is this?

[lean nexus]

base team
daimon
brutus>
eiron
thoran>
ferael

thoran could be switched with lyca, aezizh, atalene, rowan
ferael could be switched with oden, lyca, aezizh, nara, etc
eiron could be switched with rowan, oden, nara etc
@wheat wagon idk if this helps lmao
honestly just experiment

[lean nexus]

wukong can hard carry if you only level him up until 80 he can carry up to chapter 7 with really good rng

after you hit 80 with wukong then you level up 4 other heroes

[lean nexus]

base team
daimon
brutus>
eiron
thoran>
ferael

thoran could be switched with lyca, aezizh, atalene, rowan
ferael could be switched with oden, lyca, aezizh, nara, etc
eiron could be switched with rowan, oden, nara etc
idk if this helps lmao
honestly just experiment

[meager wave]

Getting back into the game after barely playing for a 1year and a half, what teams can I make and I have 1 switch scroll to use

[lusty osprey]

It's always the weakest team that gives me the hardest time

[sacred eagle]

PvP formation?

[kind nest]

You’re using 4 carries and 1 support

Illegal

Try out AFK helper, Also soon time to +30 Thoran and get Call-fragments from events + red chest until Call 5-star

Also, your deficit isn’t High, so you should be able to do better

[kind nest]

Belinda into Scarlet.
Also check #faq-resources

[late fiber]

hi

i need someone to help me build my team cuz idk who to put

can someaone please help me

[dreamy warren]

I'm a bit lost for the 4th and 5th team... I've barely managed to go by with a 4th but now I need a 5th

Lucretia is still a long way from being remotely useful, the fourth team works more as a product of RNG and the only two "strong" teams are Ainzbedo+Arthur and Grezalna+Daimon. Scarlet is able to carry mostly alone but isn't what I'd call strong since she isn't reliable as the other two

[royal stag]

Post this in #classic-questions

[dreamy warren]

Alrighty (can´t use emojis apparently)

[severe mason]

Any solution to this ?

[agile patio]

I would say try testing around, switch positions and stuff, also lucretia is not really useful in this kind of team, she depends on people dying so here just take her out and put something else instead

[severe mason]

I dont actually use her

I use brutas

[agile patio]

Also if you really relay on Rowan a lot you should put in another mage instead of lucretia so that they won’t jump him

[severe mason]

Good point

If i failed i just wait for dust to lvl up ?

[agile patio]

Yea can do that, maybe fight in tower or anything you have available

[severe mason]

Nothing is available for me

I am stuck on everything atm

[agile patio]

Hmmm, have you used your short term hero’s?

[severe mason]

Nope

[agile patio]

Maybe use one in tower

Should save it for the last day of the week for campaign

[severe mason]

Thats my tower

[agile patio]

Oh and they have Brutus to so can’t really lucretia that either

You can also pick up the new dimensional hero if you really wanna push right now, but if you wanna save it for another time then I get that

[kind nest]

Try afk helper

https://afkhelper.nax.is/

[severe mason]

What is this

[kind nest]

It's a website with clears of stages

[severe mason]

Oh thx

[lusty wadi]

Ideas?

[supple jasper]

Just got enough copies to a my thoran and Silas who do I put in their place?

Should I get a star for my Silas?

Also if I'm low on fodder should I prioritize ascending my Oden or Silas first? Rowan is my main support rn

[paper minnow]

Dont star hunt. Put grez for silas. U can run the ascension101 command in #classic-questions for who to put in place of thoran. Oden first to ascend.

[supple jasper]

Grez is already a one star

Ok, sorry I didn't know about that command!

Thank you for the response!

[paper minnow]

[gaunt dragon]

Any ideas on this stage? Hendrik always saves flora right b4 she dies and she just ends up flying up and wiping everyone

[wheat sluice]

Can someone help me the circus tour

[frigid aspen]

🥹

[keen rain]

try daimon rowan ferael lyca brutus
or sth like brutus rowan ferael daimon thoran

[wanton knoll]

This is my second thane is he worth focusing on ? In furniture and summons

[keen rain]

you need 12 thanes to get him to ascended,do you think you should focus on him?

[wanton knoll]

Yeah idk i mean i might aswell focus on one of those heroes right instead of getting them all?

But ik it will take forever

[keen rain]

smart choice

[thin escarp]

i just got to ch 6 and got 2 daimon. Any recommendations on what team i should use for now?

[frigid aspen]

that worked, thank you

[frigid aspen]

daimon, rowan, arden, hogan, golus maybe

[thin escarp]

im to put them in the resonating crystal thing right?

to make them usable since theyre lvl 1 atm

[frigid aspen]

put daimon in crystal, reset wukong for levels in golus and the other 4

[open fulcrum]

Hi. I need help

[keen rain]

scrolls

[quaint inlet]

Is any of My heroes worth Mythic early on?

So far at the stage of leveling up fodder and gotten Rowan Legendary+ (F2P there)

In the 2 days Jeanne will disappear for sometime from My team

Will Grezhul fit well in her place?

Or is It not worth making Mythic early on

[paper minnow]

Heroes that are worth taking to mythic: daimon and rowan.
Yes u can use grez but daimon is prolly enough as frontline (if he survives)

[quaint inlet]

@paper minnow
Excuse Me

Should I upgrade Rowan to Mythic first or use Mirae+ as dps when Jeanne disappears

[pale kettle]

Any idea on what my team should be like and what to invest on?

[weary thistle]

Brutus and Daimon are pretty good, wait to get more heros like Rowan, Raku, Kren,

[paper minnow]

Dont ascend rowan to mythic using mirael. Use someone else like hogan or angelo cuz u need mirael as carry.

[pale kettle]

Just got kren and Estrida

[austere marlin]

Any daimon lineup for 29-20?

[pale kettle]

Show stage

[pale kettle]

Daimon, Rosa, Tasi, Brutus, Arden

[pale kettle]

And box maybe?

[rich fjord]

I'm using graveborn cuz Silvana highest lv

[split oasis]

Line up for TS?

[austere marlin]

Some are ascended but this is the gist of it

[gentle kayak]

Daimon
Brutus
Rowan
Fereal
Lyca

[high birch]

Thoughts?

[austere marlin]

Ty ❤️

[pale kettle]

Why can't I ever get Thoran cheese to work

Can someone reccomend a team for campaign without the free trial characters?