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Haste reduces GCD, it's something not stated in-game
I didn't know that
the more you know
also haste accelerates heroes' animations so he'd pull off the immunity fasterm which is key in most situations
i beat it pog
he does, and he also able to delay tasi's banish at the start
Congratz 😄
next wall is waiting for you :)
which 1?
idk you'll see
Ch. 28 and 29 are the generall walls early on
im stuck on 6-8
been stuck here for a while now. Nothing is working
trye legend
what
chapter 6 specially in the beginning is annoying
so
@azure sphinx try using Grez, you've got him at 9f and Grez is the most OP char in the game (apart from Lucretia), use Eye on him for the bonus def, also use Fera instead of Raku
what do i do
depends on what you have
eh?
heroes?
i got 43k power against 73k
power doesn't mean nothing in this game 😄
do i send a pic of my heroes
grez is the only one who survives longer than 10 seconds
you got PoP?
yea
Top5 is what I use
what do i use here against 6-8
@plain ridge first of all, level only 5 heroes at once, overlevel your Daimon and use him, he'll carry you along the way
looking a lot better already. call on rowan too?
i was doing the only level 5 heroes, but i eventually got other heroes who are better than the ones i level
Yep, call on Rowan, Eye on Oden, Fera and Grez @azure sphinx
ty :)
now I just need everything to go perfectly
You are welcome :), which celehypo are you working towards?
got twins and mortas and L luc
Good, when you get Luc A go for Alna, she is a beast in the GB comp
apearently i dont have enough gold and the purple powder
I know, but it'll take me a while
Yeah, just do your towerd daily to get the SG cards
tips? 
@plain ridge reset Rowan to level 60 and overlevel your Daimon to 80
how do i reset
Town -> Rickety Cart
I beat it already. PoP chain stunning everyone is so busted and hilarious
Yeah :), you could use that for some time, it's somewhat busted the synergy Oden and PoP have
because oden groups them or what
Yeah and PoP CC-locks them , also Grez doesn't need to redistribute Skeletons
yes
daimon die din 10 sec lol
put him in the back row
swap wukong and kalene?
idk the formation strat
and oden instead of thane
try that
🤷♂️
keep trying...
sometimes it takes a few attempts. If it still doesn't work just afk and wait for gold/exp/dust
Any suggestions for this stage? (Also side question - how far should I reasonably be able to push with my box?)
really depends on level + tree investment, I'd say you could push a bit, Use Grez instead of Brutus (Grez with Eye), and make sure to Ascend Silas as well 🙂
I just managed to RNG this stage with the same team 🙂
Not sure if I'm doing something wrong with Grez, but he dies off pretty quick on the frontline - what's a typical non-Alna GB comp placement? Is it just standard:
Oden/Fera
Grez/Daimon
Rowan/Silas
Daimon/Grez
Fera/Oden
For next GB, I started ascending Thoran assuming I'd want to start working on the cheese comp - when does Thoran start getting used?
My tree is just lvl 31 right now (Sus/Tank = 15, Cele = 21), following the recommended tree build in the pins.
Yeah, for GB you'd probably need a Silas to keep Grez alive, because Grez on himself doesn't have that high of a survivability apart from his shield, also a replacement for Alna is Mishka but she needs 9f to proc her ult immediately after one of her wolves die
As for Thoran, you won't find any use for him in the near future because he relies on high deficits, but it's good to have him early on and him not being a burden later 🙂
possibly ch33 if you go hardcore
Yeah I'd say so as well
Got it, thanks for the advice! Does Silas need any furniture? (Still a ways from him, assuming I finish Thoran before getting to Silas, but wondering if I should put him on my wishlist.... (And this is probably straying from this channel's topic, so I'll move to # questions if I have any follow-ups.)
He does need at least 3f, 9f is needed for later on as well but 3f is a good start 🙂
Gotcha, thanks! I have a lot of other stuff to push on (tower, Rift, figuring out boss comps,, gear shuffling etc.), so I'll probably be lazy on campaign for a bit. Hopefully will get easier once I get my Arthur (coming in 3 days) + my Raku to A (coming very soon).
And thanks @pale kettle - I'll put Silas on my furn next then.
You are welcome 🙂
None worked :/
Help
i did but and realized i need to make a new acc cuz this one iz full of mistakes
and i cant understand most of it
So lvl up
What's the best arena comp I can do rn (van resonating crystal if needed cuz I have some open slots)
Can someone help with my best team currently please? Not too sure at all tbb
Need help asap, thanks 
I'd try brutus daimon oden rowan ferael
can replace oden with PoP perhaps
I've tried something similar but the tasi stuns are annoying on daimon
or swap daimon and rowan
you need to cc the tasi, I'd try putting ferael across tasi if it's still an issue
I'll try that ty
@safe hazel it worked thanks a lot 

Hey, I just restarted a new account, what would you advise team wise ? Thx !
Thanks !
What is the best team I can make of it?
2 legend vedans though
Sorry I am stupid wdym
if you had use a elite+ vedan you would get him legendary+

does anyone have an idea how I can beat this stage? My daimon is 303, but I also have a 200 morrow if that helps, eironn is at +0
How do you guys deal with this stage?
What's the best lineup for a scarlet based account only on chapter 11 so box is somewhat limited. Won't let me post pics of box
how to beat this stage?
I just don't have a good enough 2nd team for multi battles
idk what I’m doing my friend played on my account.
Can someone help
Stuck
Read the beginner guides pinned in #classic-questions. (And the pinned stuff here) That early you'll be better off using wu-kong to carry still.
The last team what should i put
Can someone help pls
Do I reset daimon to level 60 and level up wukong?
I would put Rowan instead of Odin and Daimon instead of rowan and Odin instead of diamon
Wu Kong is only a good carry till chapter 9
What🗿
Look Rowan buttom right . Oden buttom center . Diamon right front
So I will reset daimon to level 60 then overlevel wukong
I would, yeah. Wu-kong will stay carrying for you for a little while. The diamond cost is negligible to reset once or twice.
Some form of Wu-Kong Rowan frontline, oden/daimon/Kalene backline. Probably oden behind wu-kong.
Can you put them in numbers?
In that level something like
Daimon
Wu-Kong
Oden
Rowan
Kalene
Play around as needed from there. Thane is probably not going to help much.
damn
Thane is trash
I'd just reset daimon because thane is E+ for the moment. Once fodder replaces E+/L/L+, obviously, yeah.
So I'll reset thane
I've resetted daimon
And then I'll reset thane to overlevel wukong
Well I would reset thane keep Daimon then upgrade fodders to l+ then put all of my team that ain't l+ in the crystal
Can someone help
Uh
HOW what did u use
This
Send me a screenshot
Put diamon in the front line instead of rowan
And put Rowan in the middle back and Oden in the left buttom
Frontline rowan is absolutely fine, he can't bring more potions out until level 121+
Worse results
Until then, he's just a sacrifice for his cart to stay there
Well ik but we need his ULT
It may come clutch
Eh, either way. Daimon doesn't get much use at that low of a level either.
Oden's CC will probably be the majority of setting up Wu-Kong
And like any CC, it's gonna be rng. Keep throwing tries at it is the default option, lol
Fine put Rowan in the Frontline diamon in the middle back and Oden in the left back
Should I ascend rowan
Ah yes classic rng
If u don't have 4 copies of him DONT
🗿
NEVER EVER ASCEND A HERO IF U DONT HAVE 4 COPIES OF HIM
@stable ember can u help me with this?
I want to go to ch 29 already
I'm still stuck at the level lol
Hero box? Depending on who Fawkes goes for you can also use AwEzizh on him, though I'm guessing Tasi is more of an issue.
HOW WRE U STILL STUCK
Idk. I'm still getting defeats
Later on you'll potentially be doing hundreds/thousands of attempts at levels. Get a bit used to RNG and retrying early, lol.
Box
you said it's trash???
CUZ IT IS BUT HE IS ANOYYIG AF IN CAMPAIN SPECIALLY CUZ THEY ARE 3 TIMES UR STRENGTH
Cuz are u three times as strong as ur enemy?
No so he is useless
Wait ik I will use my secret weapon using every hero I got till it works
@stable ember
Swap brutus with talene
Nope didn't work
This is my box btw
Daimon
Brutus
Rowan
Azizh
Fera
Nope
Or lucretia cheese
what are the best teams for soren and wrizz?
What do i do here
I just don't have a good enough 2nd team for multi battles
Neither, avoid making many heroes at legendary + #classic-questions
Daimon,rowan,tank,2 supports/flex
Also read pinned beginner guides in #classic-questions.
This good?(if not tell me how this is wrong)
Use brutus to tank for daimon
Hey guys, would really appreciate some help with my lineup, im hardstuck at campaign chapter 12 and have a really hard time progressing
Wait for 1 copy of daimon
Use brutus as tank
Ferael
Brutus, thoran, eiron, ferael, daimon
Daimon behind thoran , eiron back mid
a what
A deez nutz in your mouth
useful help
Isnt it bad to ignore all faction boni tho?
should i swap out PoP for ainz( garrison)?
maybe someone else but not ainz, id imagine ainz dealing potato damage without investments
me: ay finally an ainz!
*ainz proceeds to deal barely any damage
Is there any way I can beat tower 300 with my current units?
use merc
@lean nexus if u beat 24-51 pls tell me how u did it
stuck at 25 - 50
Stuck at 25-24
@wise salmon u can M fereal and get his SI to +20
He will be really useful in some stages
Good or not good ?
I would level up wukong and use wukong, mirael, rowan, grez, brutus
Alr any spesific formation?
Alr Ty
i beat the stage, but they are extremely hard and i need to change my team
Question is vague, but what I can see in the screenshot is not good - you should not be ascending heroes to Legendary unless you have multiple copies for them (4 for Daimon/Rowan or 8 for most others), and generally good d to ascend someone only when you have enough to take them straight to Mythic or Ascended tier. Also, your 3 heroes in the back are not really early priorities.
There are very good beginner guides in the pinned messages in #classic-questions channel, i suggest reading those in detail first.
Daimon
Atalene
Rowan
Brutus
Fera/oden
Send help you geniuses
neither of these pics are enough info to help solve that
faction bonus is an afterthought, really. not important enough to build a team around
Oops. I didn't realize that I sent the wrong images. This is what I meant to send
I just don't have a good enough 2nd team for multi battles
Might have better luck trying to Luc 5 pull that team since the front line is immune to CC and probably invade backrow so Ainz can't do his thing
Do I have all the investment needed for that?
there isn't really a reason to have AEzizh control Khasos. he's the least threatening enemy here, and placing AEzizh there means Rowan pots can't reach the top side allies. instinct says try swapping 4 and 5. Warek is still a problem but u might be able to power thru
Probably want 9f but still worth trying if not then change to GB
first team shud be some variation of 5p. second team would be brutus thoran daimon rowan fera or something similar
9f on who?
I'm using Lucreita 5-pull for the first one. Then, for the second one, I'm not at all sure what to do
I've had many poor experiences with trying to 5p Mehira. Eironn isn't fast enough to interrupt the bats
Lucreita 5-pull doesn't require 9f on anyone to work
This is the issue I'm having. None of the 3 teams I know I have can get her
did u try what I suggested?
AEzizh with boots shud be fast enough to freeze her
I did yeah. Frontline just pops
yeah that was the other problem I was worried about. Arthur without +30 flops hard against Wareks. try swapping Bedo Arthur
or just drop Arthur altogether and place Brutus position 1.
Lucretia. Agree with Bob wouldn't normally try Luck against Mehira but was thinking that didn't need to lock out the enemies at only 100 deficit might be able to just burst them down before they became a problem
My Lucy is 9f. The whole team dies instantly other than brutus
Sorry was looking at wrong screenshot. With Lucretia usually want rest of team to die early
Can see if Lyca for the haste helps or go with GB
I've tried both. Got nothin
Albedo
Tasi
Fera
Arthur
Ainz
Tips on this stage please? Also, is this stage not cheesable? My Thoran does only 13-14m.
Is Ainz supposed to be horrible this early on? His ult hardly does any damage
Is that stage supposed to be cheeseable ? Kelthur is used if you have 5☆ call and Thoran will prolly want 30 to cheese someone like Brutus.
Yes he is horrible without SI and Albedo
I see, I'm not really used to cheesing and I just recently tried starting doing it, so what could be a good lineup on it? Using GBs make them die instantly even.
Should I just return to Daimon as my carry then?
Usually what the leaderboard uses it. I have no fucking clue what I even used for 31-20
I don't rlly help with lineups but I rlly replied just to comment about the thoran cheese
Yeah daimon will be your carry until roughly chap 30
Thx
Oki maybe I will try to 30 thoran soon. Thanks!
You can just merc someone to help you there instead, you prolly won't need thoran 30 til ch 35+ perhaps
you need a specific mount of accended heros
Did you also stay in top 8 for the entire season?
You need to have top 10 average rank in 2 weeks to qualify. It is not enough to just reach top 10 once.
Arena tickets? Are you talking about normal arena or LCT now?
Normal arena has nothing to do with legends championship
You need to be top 10 players in the server in LCT to get to LC
You unlock LCT from campaign progress
Legends’ challenger tournament
LC is legends’ championship
👍
Any good team comps with this lady?
She is part of some CR teams
Other than that she is not used
What's 'CR team'? 
Cursed realm
Aaa ok. Thanks for the tip. 
Who should I chuck in here?
Nvm, passed it
you got awakened eziz ?
Nope haven’t gotten a copy yet
Dw, I did it somehow, with a combination of daimon ghrezul Nara Bruce and someone else XD
Lyca^
@proven river any idea to what to do here?
can you send a pic of all your heros
Here I go
Lyca Brutus astar Nara Daimon
Try that and tell me after how it went
you can also try to switch brutus for rowan
It seems Belinda is the real problem here along with raine, none of the enemies are dying either
@proven river
@proven river idk what happened here XD
it worked nice
It’s gets super close thoran finishes me off though…
lyca brutus astar rowan Daimon
Nvm, done that stage XD
xD the moment i send it
Complain strat
?
you done that stage ?
Not the one I showed

That’s a lie, just did it in 1 go
you ch25 already ?
Nope last stage, I’m trying to use a merc
show me first
Tried both 10 times, nope
Yes. Stars don’t usually make a big difference above 1 star.
Ez
U chose a v difficult stage for it, where ant and sat have immunity frames and brutus has last gasp. It's prolly possible but I'd avoid this
Yeah, I managed to get past that stage when I used my trial kalene to my GB comp. It somehow worked but thanks for the input. Now, I'm stuck here and for sure cheese is not good against ezizh.
Essentially impossible
You have a knack for choosing really tough stages huh
I think I'm always stuck on 2 team fights haha
had a few attempts where only estrilda and twins were left standing, but raku has trouble killing them off
and I cleared it
does nara hook athalia before she does her jump?
place your brutus across athalia
try frontlining daimon in pos 1 and see if he can survive (do a few attempts)
Alr
Do I replace Brutus w nala?
yes. and try swapping daimon and PoP
does daimon get his ult off?
Yea
do daimon and PoP have call?
why not Aezizh on fera?
idk lmao im braindead
Stuck on chapter 8-6
show stage
I can't go on anymore at stage 16-9 (i don't have an exact team to work on as i don't know what heroes build or which to focus on so i ask in the meanwhile a type of team i could aim for) so help pls >.>
Just lucretia cheese
What lineup would y’all suggest
I know this one (it's my actual one but it doesn't work on this stage)
But i'm searching an other team 'cause it's not my lucretia so i won't have it forever
Any tips?
Look up good wishlists for your tavern. You shouldn’t be ascending antandra and satrana that early
Focus on Daimon and get Rowan signature item to +30
What's the best comp I can do for arena? (Can resonating crystal if needed)
Anything I can do here other than wait for more exp? Got some chests should I spend it on exp instead of essence?
Daimon seems so fragile in these recent chapters even though he has mythic gear
I am trying to make 5 teams for campaign, heroes marked in red are already in use
I was thinking of one scarlet carry and one thoran cheese, but I dont have the right si for thoran cheese yet
Stuck here who should I be using
Stuck here
Wdym? You have thoran at si30 3f thats already enough.
My pippo not +20 yet
Some help would be great!
Get ainz
Too much investment im still only 14 days in
@lean nexus help?
can i see your heroes?
Did u get the 30 scrolls?
Yes
All the gift codes?
Ye
Damn lucks bad🥲
I entered around 5 working codes iirc
how long does daimon and grezhul last?
Daimon paper and grezhul last depends on luck
Wait a sec
is use thoran instead of daimon since he gets 2 lives
Ill try it
Yeah Better to reroll in other server
Ye
he hasnt made mistakes though
That account still 1-2 days old prob?
Shit luck = reroll
thats my reroll acc
Try a diff
My main acc lucky but have alot of mistakes
Lets see
Lucky if daimon is not gud
this acc if you stick around for a while luck may change idk
4 daimon early on = lucky
Im bored ash tryna do another fresh serv wit someone
This my main acc
not necessarily
Got showered with rowan
i can see quite a few mistakes
Ye a mistake i dont even know
Well not necessarily but better to 😂. + rowan too will be good
Or just pop push
its up to you if you want to reroll but rerolling is slow since you want to reroll into a new server if you want competition
Ye ill keep the acc
Ima be stuck in chap 28 for a bit smh
Ill be stuck at 9 cuz no dust
I'm chilling at ch 29.. Farming equipment every few days 😂
you can always build an ainz if you dont have carries
I need hella dust
How?
garrison
if i have to get arthur how can i get it?
lab store
Isn't ainz hard to use without rowan/albedo?
Buy it
Is albedo good idk
lab?
labyrint store
Thane
Yes
Pro
Need mythic vers gonna be op
Idk still don't have her.but From what I see from her skill, she protect ainz from getting killed early
I only got 77 stones @lean nexus
My mishka protects my ainz lmao
What u tryna get?
Ainz prolly
Ainz is so slow on 2x lol
His ult looks cool so
Ye
He need SI to skip the chant 😂
Vinegar Doppio
Ight ima make a new acc and add u
Can someone please explain to me why this is isn’t working for me but works for others. My Luc is basically max investment
rng
I’ve done this a million times
shouldnt lyca be in the middle backrow?
if ur referring to the image above then no
eironn should be in the mid back so he can pull everyone, lyca's only there for energy and haste, she's shit so no one cares if she isnt backlined for safety
u sure u copied the exact lineup with artis? u can try shroud instead of longbow
I finally got it. But no my 5p Luc is a bit different than standard lineups because I use that flex spot all over
nice, u should just always copy from formations or afkhelper
As far as i could get, i think i just need to lvl up my 5 resonance to proceed but im out of exp rn. Anything i can do or should do while i wait for exp?
something u can do is stop levelling heroes equally and just pour as much in daimon as possible
equality doesnt exist in this game, at least not pre240
oh shit im totally joking you should not level in favor of your carry
Now im even more lost are you joking within a serious insist
Bro im new i cant be wondering if you were right or wrong cause i have 0 clue
use brutus\
Nvm
What should my team be for story and pvp
what chapter
7
Any good team comps for Astra?
also reset all your heroes only level up 5 with the highest ascension tier
max out awakened talene
Ok
do atalene, daimon, rowan, thoran, brutus if you have him
if you reset the other heroes atalene could be at level 140
Don’t have Brutus
Got all those but my awakened Talene is ascended tier and Thoran 2 star and is lacking 6 points of maxing his SI
I would have normal Talene maxed and red stared
But I'll be working on with those units...
what chapter are you on?
40-21
sheesh
pretty sure he's talking to the other guy
how good is awakened talene in campaign and other events
Still good comp I'd like to try
i think you can have better comps than what is said like thoran cheese and 5 pull
the comp i recommended just helps daimon live long enough to get his ult off
Is this what u mean
yes]
but put thoran instead of daimon in front
ye
Like this?
atalene should carry most of early chapters
then switch to daimon later on
then you use talene as a tank
Alr same thing for pvp as well?
yea
for later chapters id go with thoran/atalene, ferael, brutus, eiron, daimon (main carry), you can switch them with lyca, nara, athalia, aezizh, rowan
Hm alright thanks
also with your box dont ascend raine or lorsan
wait for 8 copies till you ascend
Ok
i would ascend blue tier heroes to legendaryy +
Got stuck
please help
Try:
Oden
Brutus/mezoth
Rowan
Mezoth/brutus/daimon
Daimon/silas
Try:
Ferael
Brutus
Rowan
Daimon/grez/albedo
Oden/daimon
Please help. Mistakes were made 3 years ago.
help please
use brutus thoran atalene or rowan at front
use eiron to pull them so daimon can kill them quicker
ferael, kyca, tasi for support
you can also use other like aezizh nara or fawkes if needed
Hello, I have just completed the Arcane Labyrinth but I have not received the rewards in question and I ask you if you can fix it
Got stuck again
what do i do guys
You are super early game (like me). You need to look at the beginner's guides pinned in #classic-questions. I specifically recommend Phoenix's, since it has the correct meta on it. It may be a bit confusing at first, but the primary take away at your level is to focus only on the 5 fodder heroes shown in the bottom left. Make sure your wishlist is set according to what is shown in the top left. You can reset all progress on all of your heroes so far so you can get pretty much all of those resources back. That's what I would recommend doing. When your 5 fodder heroes are ascended to Legendary+ and levelled all the way up, you can start focusing resources on other heroes. In the meantime, you can use some of those heroes by using the Resonating Crystal: just place your 5 fodder in the crystal (since they should be your highest level heroes) and any heroes you specify at the bottom will automatically get the level of the lowest level hero in your crystal.
Any help with this fking stage??
Working on the mauler faction tower. Anything lineup that might help me with this one. I'm getting demolished currently.
hmm?
Mhhh
That's a pretty small deficit so any mix should theoretically work. But having a built kren and skriath would help big time for tower progression
can someone help me? lvl isn’t problem but i don’t have a lot characters even legendary rarity
It looks to me like you could benefit from the beginner's guides pinned to #classic-questions. I specifically recommend Phoenix's, since it has the correct meta on it. It may be a bit confusing at first, but the primary take away at your level is to focus only on the 5 fodder heroes shown in the bottom left. Make sure your wishlist is set according to what is shown in the top left. You can reset all progress on all of your heroes so far so you can get pretty much all of those resources back. That's what I would recommend doing. When your 5 fodder heroes are ascended to Legendary+ and levelled all the way up, you can start focusing resources on other heroes. In the meantime, you can use some of those heroes by using the Resonating Crystal: just place your 5 fodder in the crystal (since they should be your highest level heroes) and any heroes you specify at the bottom will automatically get the level of the lowest level hero in your crystal.
okay, thank you:) can you recommend: what team should i use?
I'm relatively new too, so I can't give you a lot of help on team comps. Just that you should focus your development on those 5 fodder heroes. At the beginning, you'll find that just levelling them up helps you past most blocks you run into. Your team comps are going to come mostly from your resonating crystal and those 5 fodder heroes. If you are running into trouble, post the team you're going against and whatever heroe's you have available (like you did above) to get help with whom you should put in your resonating crystal for help.
i know how does it works, i've played the same game before:D i just want to know who should i use because im not sure about if my current team good or no, so, yep
Cool. I've seen a lot of questions (and asked them myself) concerning the resonating crystal. I was just covering my bases.
Well i only discovered guides this morning so i want to start my acc over, but i'd really like to finish off the chapter TT
Any advice?
Maybe try pulling Arden instead Tasi and use Brutus instead Grez 🙂 Also Rowan back mid if possible
Ill give it a shot!
Also, Ferael is good against healing heroes like Ulmus
I tried using him, but he keeps getting melted in the first few seconds

thank you for your qdvice, will try!!

Would raising ferael and nara help? Considering im leaving this acc, i could feed all my copies of grez to them
Or i could push him to a with the nara
still, can anyone help? 😦
i need help with lineup
Stuck at 8-32 any idea what my best lineup would be with these units?
I did it! YOURE THE BEST!!! 
Can you send me enemy formation in dms?
Sent maybe I just hit my max level though 😂
Can someone help 8-16 can’t defeat the next opponent
Some help would be great!
Stuck at 8-20 I reset all my hero’s
don't reset too much @abstract epoch It's good if u have 5 fodder at the highest level u can and put every other hero u use in the crystal
can u show the enemies in the stage
Any tips on how to deal with Tasi? Keeps CCing Daimon all the time
I need help
how does this work? does Daimon have AoE?
Anyone have recommendation on who to replace Athalia with? Most comps in AFKHelper uses Zaph, but I do not have him.
can anyone help me here? 😐 the arrows oneshot daimon every try
Sure
@icy plover
What's the best team I can do for story rn?
How long have you been playing for
I just hit lvl 100 I'm just bad at comps
No like how long have you been playing the game for
Uhhh a couple months now I'd say but this account is like 3 months old or so
Alr I was just curious
I would use Daimon, Brutus, Aden, Rowan and Oden for that stage
I don’t have daimon
mb, mirael instead
Alr thanks
Aden is the old guy in wilders right?
yes
Alr I’ll try it out I also just got the awakend Brutus for trial so maybe that’ll help
Oden front or back
Alr Ty
How do I beat this stage?
Getting wiped very quickly on 31-40. Any suggestions?
Try this
Not working
Hello everyone, i'm actually struggling at level 9-12 (Niru legendary+, Isabella mythic+, 2 dreaf and 1 Steixius) in the campaign (yup, i'm not that far^^), the problem i get is that i can't kill the first line before Isabella kill everyone. There are my characters that i have, i have the gems to unload the ones in the crystal thing that boost them -like here- to lv100. I'm open to any ideas of team, and generally i don't have a real team to fight with through the campaign, that's why i ask for some help x)
I'm stuck, need help
Im starting to get suck at end of chapter 11, wanted to ask if there's anyone i should start using from characters i own and maybe did not realised i could to improve my team a bit for pushing.
Im using Daimon/Rowan/Rosaline/Silas + Hogan or Thoran in most stages.
Okay so first read the pinned beginner guides in #classic-questions. To counter usabella u need someone like nara,oden,fawkes,ferael or athalia. Basically someone that can cc her.
Use someone that can cc isabella. Also dont put daimon infront of that wilder dude or else he will throw ur daimon
I dont think pippa is gonna be useful to you. Id remove her in crystal for athalia. Athalia can be useful to counter annoying backline enemies.
I should get another slot today anyway so thats probably not an issue if there's no one else that COULD be usefull for me.
Have u tried swapping abrutus and grez positions? That horse is gonna kick grez then mirael will kill him.
Could remove pippa for oden. Sometimes oden's portal can be used to counter estrilda dash.
What would be the best progression team for me?
Unfortunately u dont have daimon. For now u can run a team with scarlet/mirael carry with grez,thoran,silas, and flex for the last spot.
It depends if u have copies. Though u can use daimon together with scarlet/mirael cuz he can still tank while deal dmg.
Yes and it was kinda worse
If i get scarlet to mythic who should i replace her with?
Ok, Thanks again
Id do grez. Grez is most likely gonna be useless to you.
Oh why? @paper minnow
He's probably squishy af to u. And if u want him to kinda tank u prolly need +20. Also he needs 9f to be god.
ill sac mirael for scarlet right?
God Gave me too much scarlet yet i dont have many good tanks
could think about it, thanks for the headsup!
Scarlet is not really the "rush to mythic" kind of hero like rowan and daimon. So maybe dont ascend her yet and see whose copies u get. Try asking advice in #classic-questions .
Im not rushing it.Its just shes the most reoccuring hero in my summons
Just continue building fodder for now imo. Mirael is enough as carry as long as u over lvl her.
Ok ill lvl 140 her and then try again
And prolly try to get a replacement for abrutus
any tips on how to make this work?
Any suggestion to whom should i ascend? Im very confused on what should i be doing
I want to aciende one of them which one should I do?
lb scarlett gb grez
Some help needed everything gets melted
(Have also tried brutus frontline but he cant stall long enough)
who's SI should i prioritize my M rowan or A grezhul. also, what SI level?
grez only needs si20, it works for a long time
i can win both battles with lucretia but other one is bad any advice
You could upgrade your thoran si to 30 and then try and cheese it. The deficit is really high and your heroes are insane
Looking on afk helper should help
Anyone have advice on Misty Arena mission 7, using all maulers? They’re by far my weakest faction, so anything’s helpful.
Lucretia and 4 maulers
Any idea how to deal with that frontline?
any help with passing this stage? I'm pretty stuck :')
Any good teams I can try?
I saw this on the Bok's begginner guide to early game, abut what heroes i should have level up first :
"1. Daimon carry OR Wu Kong carry + 1 tank frontline, 3 supports backline "
Should i reset my heroes to play a team like this with daimon to try to take a right path ^^, or just keep it like this ?
I have no idea what team I should be building towards I see a lot of people using Wu Kong but idk where to put him
Sitting at 40-4 right now at RC 393
Fights 1-4 work well but i cant get the last fight to work. Tried variations with khazard, daemon and scarlet but mehira barely gets her ult out.. is she missing gear or is it sth else?
Stuck here is there an optimal team I should run?
Stuck here is there an optimal team I should run?
Does anyone know a good sub for estrilda
pls help i can’t pass this
Try this
From up to dowm
Front: Brutus, Lucius
Back: Scarlet, Rosaline(on Scarlet), Ferael
in what kind of lineup?
can you show me the lineup?
try swaping Daimon with Lyca, also do you have Dura's Call on Rosaline and Rowan? & Windebinder on Mehira?
It looks to me like you could benefit from the beginner's guides pinned to #classic-questions. I specifically recommend Phoenix's, since it has the correct meta on it. It may be a bit confusing at first, but the primary take away at your level is to focus only on the 5 fodder heroes shown in the bottom left. Make sure your wishlist is set according to what is shown in the top left. You can reset all progress on all of your heroes so far so you can get pretty much all of those resources back. That's what I would recommend doing. When your 5 fodder heroes are ascended to Legendary+ and levelled all the way up, you can start focusing resources on other heroes. In the meantime, you can use some of those heroes by using the Resonating Crystal: just place your 5 fodder in the crystal (since they should be your highest level heroes) and any heroes you specify at the bottom will automatically get the level of the lowest level hero in your crystal.
i got destroyed
damn😹
try replacing Scarlet with Ainz(Rosa on him ofc) & Lucius with either awakened Talene or Thane
You should be looking at Phoenix's guide for the hero meta. The ideal is to build the 5 fodder heroes mentioned in it. You definitely want to avoid using resources on your other heroes until you have all the copies of them you need to fully ascend them (even if you don't have all the fodder you need for it). It seems like your early enough in the game that resetting and starting fresh with the guide to help will probably benefit you greatly. FWIW, I did the same thing as you and I'm very glad I reset.
Front: Rowan, Mishka
Back: Scarlet, Ezizh, Daimon/Grezhul
That's wonky. Rowan in the front and Grez in the back? That is definitely different.
Reset all the game or Just the heroes ?
Yeah I thought abt putting him front but rowan needs to somehow give scarlet the mana potion and rowan is not that bad at the front + need ezizh to stop ferael for a bit so he can't fear so can't put rowan mid back
I would just do the heroes. That's what I did
I like it. Very creative. 🙂
What lineup should o rock
It's that guide right ?
Wrong one x)
Yes. That's the one everyone keeps pointing to as having the correct meta on it. At the very least the wishlist and the recommended first 5 fodder heroes are correct. That's where I'm at right now. I've got all but one of those 5 fodder heroes at L+ and am working on leveling them all up. After that, I think it's more of a game of chance where you wait until you have the 8 copies of the Elite heroes (or 4 copies of the resulting E+ heroes if you want). Once you have the requisite copies, then you push them. If you have multiple heroes with enough copies, then I think it would be time to start asking folks on here more questions about priorities of who you push how far before working on others.
My heroes are just melting with the same lineup. How is that possible?
This team healing and cc is really annoying
Daimon is in position 3, not 4. And it could be terribly high rng. Tasi banish and Arden roots are pretty annoying.
I tried both positions but Oden gets 1 shotted like 90% of the times a couple of seconds into the fight. Tasi and Arden are annoying and the healing from Ulmus and Nemora makes it impossible to kill anything
Terribly high rng, took like 50 attempts and using the new Brutus was a plus 😎
Ok
Is new brutus good even at high deficits?
Remains to be tested. On paper his kit isn’t tailored for campaign, but his numbers and CC do have potential.
Any suggestions for lineup? Currently at 13-36
Any ideas? Or do I just need to level them up and ascend more
Try:
Aezizh
Daimon
Rowan/healer/Aezizh
Brutus(not awakened)
Scarlet/lyca
Stuck
Help?
What's my best lineup right now this is what I'm using
put in silas for heal instead of isabella
rest is situational
I'm blowing through levels and I replaced shemira with Silas
And for the guild fights who should I use
Help mirael and estrilda are one shotting everything
Stuck
Probably want to mercenary a strong Scarlet or Saurus and build a team around them
Is there a bot command to show u it's xd I'm horrible with names
Scarlet is the LB mage and Saurus is the wilder lizard
?
what are the best lineups for guild hunt
rosa
scarlet
twins
saurus
raine
thx
Already beaten
@fiery wing can u help me?
how to beat. Now the deficit increased
Oooops already beaten it
Joker op
Hi, anyone got some tipps to what comp I should use for campaign? ATM I'm kind of stuck in 26-24
This is what I currently use
Yo can somebody help me ? I chained my ainz with my Eironn but I can you my ainz he is gray and when I unchain him I still can’t you him pls help me pls help me
Wdym ?
daimon brutus rowan Aezizh ferael
Your garrison expired. Need to renew it from Friends Tab.
why are you freezing Estrilda? also Hogan/Raine have minimal damage so if anything I'd put Brutus 2, or even spicier you could try to front Daimon.
Try Rowan Brutus Daimon AEzizh Fera
@summer cedar
do u have proper gear? what's ur artis look like
no i dont and whats artis
rowan needs gear to front. I kinda assumed offhand that u had decent gear. artis are artifacts
Gear and artifacts?
bad gear and rowan has call ferael has eye aezizh has eye daimon has call and brutus has eye
t2 weapon and boots that are factioned on daimon and the helm and chest arent factioned
the others has whatever
lack of gear severely lowers rowan and fera's utility. they're heavily reliant on dodge spamming.
if Raine is giving trouble, try a backline of AEzizh Rowan Fera
alright
@lean nexus can u help me?
i dont see any heroes that u can use
how long does grezhul last if not long use thoran
can u retake he screenshot its enemy team is missing heroes
use wukong in front of estrilda i think hell last long and will slow the enemy down, brutus on the dog, pop, mehira mid and silas healing brutus
also pick a fodder like mirael in each faction to ascend to legendary+ you dont want many gold heroes
me vs your team
So I know my hero’s are messed up and I have way too many legendaries. I started using the guides late. But any help with my lineup would be appreciated. I have a few T1 wilder gear and have improved saurus’ signature a bunch, but I’m open to w/e works.
Oh, and PoP is linked to saurus
Rowan for Numisu
And Daimon for Saurus
Saurus and Numisu are useless for campaign
👍 will give it a shot, thanks!
Does any one finish stage 41-48 without kazard
Still losing, but maybe just because I haven't invested as much in those heroes (unfortunately)
Any ideas
hmmmm
any ideas
may have to restart and luc it, saw someone who got it with farael instead of ldv
=t3
why not swap merlin and LDV?
then you can try swap LDV for PoP if that helps
Yeah I tried all the variations of that comp, just gonna try and restart so I can have farael in there
If your allies aren't tanking several hits, you can also replace merlin for PoP for more cc
but ig Merlin is needed for flora actually 
Any tips on what I should run?
You'll want to consult the beginner's guides pinned to #classic-questions. I specifically recommend Phoenix's, since it has the correct meta on it. It may be a bit confusing at first, but the primary take away at your level is to focus only on the 5 fodder heroes shown in the bottom left. Make sure your wishlist is set according to what is shown in the top left. You can reset all progress on all of your heroes so far so you can get pretty much all of those resources back. That's what I would recommend doing. When your 5 fodder heroes are ascended to Legendary+ and levelled all the way up, you can start focusing resources on other heroes. In the meantime, you can use some of those heroes by using the Resonating Crystal: just place your 5 fodder in the crystal (since they should be your highest level heroes) and any heroes you specify at the bottom will automatically get the level of the lowest level hero in your crystal.
Hi guys, just started yesterday currently stuck on 7-6 any tips to build a team? Thanks! Also any pack that its worth buying for a low spender?
=misty
Unless stated otherwise, the selections in the attached picture is the best option
Slot 2: Guild coins for early game players, juice for later game players
Slot 3: Both blue and purple stones are fine, though purple is usually better
Slot 9: Use it as you would hero choice
Slots 7, 11, and 13: Pick engraving shards over reds if you wish
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someone please help
@lean nexus help?
swap grezh with wukong or thoran
tnx
Help pls. My Daimon stopped carrying at this stage. Feels like my frontline dies like melted butter except when abrutus get some dodge. (which then also died like butter)
Is this just a level problem?
put him behind brutus
also use the normal brutus
id use ferael and eiron if you can
are there things that normal brutus does better than abrutus?
my eiron is plain E+, i can try with ferael...replacing oden?
ferael and eiron dont need to be ascended to put in work
they just do the cc, debuffing and grouping
keep thoran so he dies almost instantly because when eiron groups them up thoran then will fear them
survives longer also immune to cc
lmao you legend. done it with ferael, daimon, rowan backline and brutus thoran frontline
ty man
you can switch rowan with eiron if eiron gets interupted put lyca instead of ferael or you can switch lyca with thoran
ok ill try eiron when this lineup stops working. for now they seem to be able to push the stages pretty well...
anyway im also looking to ascend someone and thinking ferael next since i have 8 copies of him. is that an ok move or a waste of fodders?
yes best course of action
since thoran and grezh only work with investments
@noble mist i pushed deficits with daimon you can probably use my formations
my id is 142931340
same team all the way?
yeah
gotta add as friend first to copy formation?
we had pretty much the same lineups only different was the ascension
you can follow it does the same thing
oh you're also on 984... followd. how do i copy stuff
also i would summon for aezizh he is so helpful in campaign
add me or follow me
ill add you
chapter 27 is cringe lmao
so how do i copy stuff
when your changeing your setup theres a formation button bottom right
ahh okok gotchu gotchu
i gotta chuck eiron to my resonating
you can probably push to chapter 24 with that team
@noble mist dont invest too much into daimon like si 30
yeah daimon's si is 20. im collecting emblems to get rowan to 30...
your lineup is solid but im missing artifact for eiron. what did you use on him?
he doesnt need much since when he pulls the enemy he just dies
ahh ok
normally go with eye or the shield when ulting one cause it has dodge
i think i pulled for aezizh when i was in chapter 25 since theres so many lockdown heroes locking daimon
damn this lineup is wicked. ty man
ill chuck this on him. eiron is so good
synergy is good
for real. i guess gotta read these heroes kits and get experienced. i can push tower with this. dope dope dope
yeah
Anyone help been stuck for a few days Estrilda keeps destroying my lineup
Man this is a pain Isabella is annoying and so is that mauler homeless guy
In that position does Brutus get to cast his ult before dying?
Also try to swap the hypogean girl and daimon
Got stuck help
When the enemy team doesn't want to give you a turn and you just want to give up.Need help pls
use daimon ur making me cry
brutus thoran daimon ferael eiron if you have them
Got them very weak tho
erion in the middle
eiron really needs no investment yeah? sometimes he just got capped by stuff like silvana and the likes
yes
I tried and nothing different happened. Mehira doesnt get to ult either
if an assassin is targetting eiron put no gear in to thoran hell get targetted instead
does assassin target the highest... rating?
lowest rating
Got him to 220 but he still dies pretty quick
oh yeah thats what i meant...
probably the sniper guy
this happens alot in deficits
Same with me ppl say daimon carries hard but he dies first for me
if he gets banished i would get aezizh
its about the formation you need to watch who does the most damage and find a way to disablr them
@lean nexusi really need to get my ferael to A like yours.. he dies too easily
mine dies too
Best attempt so far with Daimon but Scarlet did a lot better
scarlett will always get destroyed if she has no tanks
Normally ran with her brutus rowan peggy athoran luicus depending on the enemy team
also does ferael fear before dying?
Help
Not always
thats good
golden boy
My ferael gets his fear like 1 time every 10 attempts and the enemy ferael gets his fear every time
?
Called grind I am f2p
how come u have 2 ascended oden
No the other one is from relief force
what is relief force?
An event
huh never had it
I think it's cuz I didn't play for a month and came back they gave me an event called heros return
It's rly good event
Help this is the best I could do
What should my main formation be?
do I just merc this?
do you have mehira
no
Please help
Place daimon at the back and mishka front
If doesn't work try replacing lyca with mireal
Mireal is a very good early carry
Tried that, Mishka never ulted, if i place her there, there are some chance she survives until she ulted in the backline. Mirael just get one shotted by the Silvina.
I tried replacing Lyca with Zaph, he cant teleport since Silvina is faster, but he managed to at least summon the random thundercloud
heros return thing
returning player?
Yea they give u mercenaries for 60 days
returned after 1 ½ years 💀
Any idea how i could tackle this one?
Please help this is actual cancer
use brutus thoran daimon eiron (kalene/arden/lycan/tasi)
ty
how to beat this stage
why ascend isabella
shes good
doo doo
jk
hes a returning player lmao
that explains alot, actually.
😅
i get sometimes we simp but she is kinda bad
I use her bec her ult is strong
i still get nighmares of isabella decimating my entire team at plus 70 levels
😯
I'm stuck, need help. Also can send list of my heroes
Any idea what my best overall lineup would be? For campaign in general?
Any idea what my best overall lineup would be? For campaign in general?
Any suggestions to beat this stage ?
nice notif
Thoran
Brutus
Lyca
Daimon
Nara
Wow… thanks LOL, how do i think like you in terms of line up
shortly, use Daimon and Lyca all the time (in your current state), then play around those 2 heroes with other heroes. you can see if the team comp has a potential to work
is oden worth it more then my ezizh? (he is only leg)
Flora isn't a good unit for campaign and has no synergy in this team. you'd want another buffer for Luc ideally, or Skriath 3F to group for AoE
could try something like brutus Thoran Oden Scarlet Daimon but that's prolly leaning too heavily into dps
try replacing atha for arden
Thanks for the answer, however i somehow managed to clear it by bashing my head on the key and repeating over 100 times ahah.
What do i do r2 and r3 isnt working for me
Does grez gb work against r3?
whats grez gb?
Your second team 
Does grezhul need A stars?
eventually yeah
ok
Umm try for r1
Lorsan
Lyca
Flora
Thoran (call)
Pippa
Your thoran might need the 3f 
yeah thoran clears dont work for me
Try ainz for r2?
Help with this one? I'm thinking about taking Nara from my hero choice chest but idk if she'd be helpful enough
Kinda new to all this is my team good and what unit should I aim for and what should I avoid doing
You'll want to consult the beginner's guides pinned to #classic-questions. I specifically recommend Phoenix's, since it has the correct meta on it. It may be a bit confusing at first, but the primary take away at your level is to focus only on the 5 fodder heroes shown in the bottom left. Make sure your wishlist is set according to what is shown in the top left. You can reset all progress on all of your heroes so far so you can get pretty much all of those resources back. That's what I would recommend doing. When your 5 fodder heroes are ascended to Legendary+ and levelled all the way up, you can start focusing resources on other heroes. In the meantime, you can use some of those heroes by using the Resonating Crystal: just place your 5 fodder in the crystal (since they should be your highest level heroes) and any heroes you specify at the bottom will automatically get the level of the lowest level hero in your crystal.
You're early enough in the game that you'll likely do best to reset your heroes and concentrate on following the guide from here on out.
doesnt work
How can I improve this team to beat this part of the stage?
Any help?
try brutus 1 daimon 2 rowan 4 a few times
you'd rather brutus soak the hits from safi and have to get lucky with timing to interrupt luci's ult
can someone help with a floor!
they totally know what floor you're at
Lmfao
LMAOO
you gotta be the most annoying mf i’ve interacted with by far 

mate, read the name of this discord server
then read the name of the game you're playing
no ik what game it is i have both
i just require assistance for one floor
Why don’t u join a OPM server?
If there is one^
bc everyone is non-responsive
Well I don’t think anybody here is gonna answer a lineup from another game, especially if they don’t even play that considering this Issss a afk-arena server
I didn’t help anything XD
Sorry and good luck with your search
oh wow i completed the floor
On the other hand can someone help with this
And congrats 😊
merced it my backline was getting destroyed 🤷♂️
Yeah, I’ll probs have to merc it tmrw
im stuck on floor 301 now 🤡
@lean nexus is lyca only as support on your chapter 24 runs? feels like the normal eironn comp wont cut it... enemies are like fawkes and tasi being super annoying to deal with since they isolate daimon
She’s for haste and energy, yes
should i continue building her?
I mean, no reason to not build her since she’s one of the best utility heroes in the game
yes only as support makes it so eiron pulls in faster
i see i see.. yeah sometimes eiron dies too easily. i also noticed sometimes you put nara. at which circumstances do you use nara instead of eiron?
i dont use nara i use aezizh
Is there any comp without haelus for the dune destroyer?
Yea that is my current formation
But recently I got grezhul ( with 9 mythic furn) and raku (30 si)
So I am confused about whether to em in the formation and if yes whom to remove
Try:
Ferael
Brutus
Rowan
Grez
Raku
Try:
Ferael
Brutus
Rowan
Daimon
Oden/Aezizh
alrighty thanks
ooh i passed tysmmm!
