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Grez dies too quickly, and Ainz/Oden follow soon after 😦 I'll try this with Raku tomorrow once I have him on RC, but I suspect he won't survive once Grez is down either.
Thoran sucks as tank.
Yea u can try raku+charm. Try this:
Lyca
Grez/brutus
Mehira
Rowan
Raku
Btw u need windbinder 3* for mehira.
Oh I don't even have windbinder unlocked, let alone 3* 😅 I've been slacking on Trials of God, should probably spend some time there.
Does she not work without that? I can try this comp out tomorrow (both Raku and Mehira waiting for RC cooldown.)
I dont think she'll work without windbinder cuz u need her to ult asap.
What about Call?
Call gives energy every second so its gonna take a while. Windbinder gives 350 (iirc) energy at the start of the battle plus u have rowan +30 so thats an almost instant ult.
Oh I see - makes sense, I’ll spend some time trying to get Windbinder then.
Probably good for Ainz too?
Yea. Though im not sure i havent really tried it myself.
He can use book, but usually wants hat
Hat = Warden?
Ye
Got it. Looks like that is only available after 32-30, so will be a while for me. Will try with what I’ve got for now.
Any help with this ch? 🤓
wtf rosaline frontline works lmao
Hey guys, is there any recommended heroes for me to use? Just got back to play this game again
Is this your old acc or a new one?
Old one
Since this is only a day of progress I recommend starting over on the newest server. Then go to #classic-questions and read pinned messages to get a good wishlist and read the beginner guides in general.
Ooh why is that
Is it cause of better rewards from the beginning?
It’s because you are effectively a completely new account on a server where everyone else has been playing for a while. You will never catch up with your PvP ladder.
👍
Help?
Help vedan’s ult is annoying
why do you have thoran luc and ainz in the same comp
swap daimon and thoran then rowan and silvina
might want to sub someone out for rosaline to have enough dmg to kill vedan
It had a worse outcome verdan survived with more up and 2 more enemies survived
oh damn, then dont sub someone out for rosa
since daimon on pos 1 would get his energy sucked by isabel
Hmmmm
Lemme try again that position with Rosa
Same result
Tough
I thought I could use bucket head to steal vedan’s energy but he dies quick from silvina
Raku do you think swapping fera or silvina for lyca would be a good idea?
could be, but then isabel would probably end up ulting and killing everyone
True
Because I have nothing else
💀
I need help with this stage, been trying some formation from afk helper for hours but it doesn't work
any clue on how to beat
What artifacts should i be using
any help would be appreciated
This will be game changing for me
Who should I use it on??
This will be game changing for me pls answer
? I didn't read
Na, not a point when your that close.
There are a few things options. All involving that Brutus
Brutus was a regret and a blessing
Scarlet, Raku and Kren. Because you have a damage dealer for GB (and hence GB tower) it would probably be best to pick a main DD for one of the other factions.
He got me through niche situations but is overall weak
He works at E, mate. Lol
no one
So scarlet I use it on with brutus?
no
There must be a better option though @cunning warren
don’t use it at all
Bro 💀 💀
you have nothing worth swapping
Just tell me a hero to swap man
It won’t be game changing for you
Moose is right you don’t have anyone worth changing right now
You actually have a decent box
I don't I fucked up when I started a month ago... Many mistakes were made @pale kettle
if you wanna waste it go ahead and swap scarlet it’s not gonna help you at all
Other than not having albedo your box is good
You shouldn’t swap people unless you have furniture and SI investment otherwise its pointless
At 90 dimensional coins rn gonna loan her
She needs si30 asap
Wdym si? (Sorry I don't understand short terminologies)
@pale kettle if I get albedo, should I switch with brutus?
I meant fuse
^
For now either lorsan or silas. Id prob do lorsan
You're kinda right though, was my first epic and is pretty good tank, just thought someone would be better
Like a thoran i thought would be better
Gotta say your ainz is pretty fucking good though
he is alright there are better ones but thank you
Ezio kills everything besides niru
which 5 heroes should i put for resonating crystal for early campaign? just starting chapter 9 and slowly leveling fodder
It honestly all depends on who you pull
i have a pic attached of who i currently have, does that help
at the moment you definitely want all your highest ascended hero’s like diamon etc but as you start to pull more hero’s it will fluctuate just focus on the hero’s you can get ascended the highest also Diamon is amazing try to get him too ascended as fast as possible
yes I understand, I'm just trying to go through campaign (chapter 9) right now so I'm wondering of the heroes I have, which 5 should I put on the resonating crystal for me to use at the moment
aka what are the 5 best heroes in my roster I can put in a team generally speaking for campaign
Ezizh back middle, diamon back right, Brutus and wukomg in front, and the new character in other back slot. Try that for rn and try to get diamon and ezizh to 120
perfect, thank you!
If the new character doesn’t work well use oden and your welcome
sounds good. sorry if my question was confusing
It’s all good
i'm stuck in stage 13-4 and i can't figure out what team comp would be the best for me to go on (so could someone help me pls >*< ? )
I hope i'm in the right channel else sorry >.<
what chapter are you on? there's a guide to late game pve comps
https://www.reddit.com/r/afkarena/comments/r8nr68/endgame_pve_formations_visual_guides_redorb/
this should be good then
you may not be able to build everything at once, but it should give you a sense of direction, hero synergies etc
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I'm sure if you send your hero box more knowledgeable players can help you figure things out.
You could also visit afkhelper to look up comps for specific stages. Not really sure what kind of input you're looking for
I screwed up really big
Okay so first of all stop making legendary or mythic heroes. Before u do something like that ask in #classic-questions first. U can try a team of: daimon,rowan,brutus,2 flex
Try changing arden for oden/ferael/fawkes/lorsan.
Try:
Ainz
Brutus
Rowan
Albedo
Nara
Guys I'm stuck in 11-22 and tower 141. Feels like I can't progress except just to wait it up, to gather enough dust to take my team to 140.
Also my tanks are dead like butter. Except for Golus.
am using brutus, daimon, wukong, ezizh. was using kalene but my trial ran out. suggestions on who i should put in the crystal as my 5th? currently stuck at 9-30
I don’t have a very good clue of who you should add because there are many good possibilities, but you should focus on piling heroes who you have E+ on, because of the level cap and the extra stats. For example good E+- Shemira, Oden. Any ones that you know you can save up to upgrade even more will prove a lot more useful than just using lineup strategie
Hint: save your shemira and almost never decide to give her up because of her high potential past level 140
okay thank you, I have 3 copies of Shemira so I'll try putting her in the crystal for now
If you can’t figure out which E+ to use, then look at the specific abilities and figure out which type of abilities your team is missing, and no problem 👍
Who should be in my team to get higher than 24B
Tryin to make a team work
, stuck on 9-31
What to move around?
Scarlet, saurus, rosa, raine, twins
I’d merc saurus for it since yours isn’t +30
or merc Scarlet and do
Scarlet, rosa, baden, raine, twins
Any help with this stage?
Might try swapping daimon and lyca? Daimon might get charmed and not ult early enough because of that?
Ive tried it too... And move eizh around
The lineup that is in the pic is after trying all i could think. I also tried with arden, oden, mirael, talene, rowan...
Okay thanks you and in what position should i place them ?
Daimon
Brutus
Rowan
Flex
Flex
Though positions will change depending on the enemy.
Okay thank you 😄
If u havent i recommend reading the pinned beginner guides in #classic-questions. The guide will tell you what to do and help avoid mistakes.
I only know that my mistake was leveling up lyca currently, but in terms of lineups im not sure what should i do
someone help me please and ty
Leveling a lyca wasnt really a "mistake" cuz u can just reset her and lvl someone else. Lineup suggestions is also mentioned in the guides.
Use someone with cc like arden instead of mirael. U can counter isabella with nara.
i don’t have nara 😓
U can try oden/ferael/Aezizh/fawkes/tasi/zaphrael.
i don’t have most of those sadly, this is my bag
Fane might be able to help since he reduces enemy energy gain.
didn’t work, i can try zaphrael and see if i get some type of rng
cause he seems to be dealing dmg
Ah didnt know that, havent read the lineup guide
how to defeat this stage 😅
Okay i see and yeah i realised late that what i did with rosaline and numisu was wrong >.< xd But yeah this is the combo that i was using before but the stage that i fight in are stage with graveborns so my team with lightbearers got wrecked >.< and okay i try to do that but i don't know which hero should i wait for or try to focus on
Grez front. Daimon back somewhere , Rowan back middle, Brutus front, feral back, ascended thane switch out maybe
Thoran front if neither grez nor Brutus work
tldr it
ok so i read it all. your box looks weak, doesnt look like your wishlist was set properly. id restart if i were you, unless you want to push with that box which would take a lot of time(and to fix your account)
as for awakened heroes i know it's annoying how people in the same server abuse awakened heroes
you have a 0.1% chance to pull them and some assholes just reroll til they get an awakened hero
also once again your box is shit your wishlist wasnt set id restart if i were u but if u dont want to then continue pushing, somehow, with that box
you can push to ch14 in like 3 days with good enough luck
yeah i dont get what 'duplicated heroes' is supposed to mean
Also no fooder heroes is a big mistake
box=your heroes
also eitherway if u want to restart or not, try to read the guides pinned in #classic-questions to get a better understanding of this game
so that account is made 2 or 3 years ago?
i see. well if u dont mind you can restart because your account is kind of hard to fix with all the trash heroes lying around unless you dont mind. once again guides in #classic-questions
I am hard stuck and feel no progress (maybe because I'm a complete noob xd). Any suggestions?
daimon brutus [ferael rowan lyca backline] or [rowan nara/disabler ferael back]
E+ ferael works?
mainly for his cc only yeah
Ok no this goes even worse than before
then backline daimon and replace nara/lyca with grez
Mmk
How to pass this? I'm stuck for 3 days here
Hey guys . I am so stuck on 29-52, any advice ?
brutus daimon raku fereal rowan
or rowan thoran daimon ferael brutus
Thank u, will try it out 🙏🏼
or brutus rowan raku pop lyca
👍🏼
hi I am currently stuck at 15-40. Any tips?
I'm just a noob, but it seems like you might want to reset some folks and look at the beginners guide pinned to #classic-questions, in particular Phoenix's guide in 1️⃣ . You need to concentrate on those first 5 fodder heroes and get them to 160 before branching out to work on other heroes. You can use the Resonating Crystal to make use of your other heroes while you're working on those first 5.
Am I too weak for this?
no, probably want to nara ferael or silvina instead of lyca and remove weap from your ferael
Any ideas? I came very close to beating the level cause of rng but that was like 10 minutes ago
Pick silas in rc
bit off topic but don’t level up L gear and below, only mythic. L gear don’t affect stats as much
@normal haven yeah, Ik 😅, I just upgraded it so I could progress..
alg, just try not to next time
Guess I need to wait for mercs huh?
Like I can't outdamage the healing and the enemy team ends up not having anyone dead despite being very close to it xd
What should I do here these are all my heroes
Seems like you're still early game...like me. You might want to check out Phoenix's guide pinned in #classic-questions. I also really find the Ascending guide helpful (found by typing "=ascend" in #classic-questions. There's also this link, which really helped me fill in the holes in Phoenix's guide:
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/565578751715573770/990989615538257980/2A5E2EF2-C25A-4900-B09B-4BF17BD11CF0.png
Build fooder heroes
What level your daimon sig item is?
Still stuck on this. I've had attempts where daimon and grez survive really long, but still can't kill anything together.
Both daimon and rowan r sig20
^
Do you have eironn?
Sadly no, not even elite
Nara?
No😔
Ferael?
Yeah but only Elite
Np
For the future, try different buffers. Idk how well Estrilda works, but u could try lyca insteaf
I was switching around a lot especially with lyca cause I’ve past that kinda level a few times but that was the first where I had to use fereal
3/3 on Daimon, Luca instead of Fera and higher RC, that's all I can think of
3/3 refering to furniture?
I did those chapters with a totally different meta and without some of the current powercreeps, so my advice might be flawed
Yes
Well you just confirmed what I suspected :/
Guess I'll just merc it next week if I don't get 3f till then
@pale kettle the mireal is taking feraels fear thing instead of Bellas, what do I reccomend I do?
You*
Nvm, I figured it out
did u try oden instead of rowan? and maybe raku instead of daimon
not sure about the positioning so try it smth where oden teleports eiron and where raku can survive
I tested oden and raku in pos 5 instead of fera, but I'll try replacing daimon and play around with positions.
Not a fan of benching rowan tbh. Will do that if benching daimon doesn't cut it
This stage is unbelievable. Almost timed out here
yeah ulmus is really annoying, ig ur raku died early? keep retrying
Not ulmus, but baden and his clones
Raku died early-ish, yes
manual raku if needed, tho I don’t think that’s necessary where u at
(Current lineup, Brutus, Tasi, daimon, silas, rowan) is there any good lineup that you can see? Or is there a comp I should look for to build up to
He only gets 1 ult off max
does he finish off anyone with the ult? If not then it’s a waste, u can manual it and use it a bit later
Help meh im stuckk
Read the pinned guides in #classic-questions
And stop ascending elites to L if you don't have the copies to take them to L+.. You will and are running out of fodder
Scarlet is not good at your stage in the game. Her ult does friendly fire damage. Better use mirael or another carry
Ok
@oblique nebula really can't thank you enough. I must've done almost a thousand attempts over the last 2 days
Edit: raku is hecking cute and valid
I may sound really stupid from this but is she really that good @azure sphinx ? Cause I’m still at a point where my impression towards her was not that great i guess
I personally never used mirael as a carry, but she is recommended as a carry after lvl 100. You can safely ascend her to L and L+, because you will fodder her down the road anyways
Alright then imma go for mirael, thanks for the recco
Other than scarlet should i change other heroes?
Put fera on crystal when you get the chance. He's got good cc and debuff
np, glad it helped 
Okay👍
who should i use for this stage?
What does rosaline do?
Give 1 ally stats and energy
I'm quite new to the game and I pulled characters until my storage was full, what characters work well with each other?
First read the pinned beginner guides in #classic-questions so u know what to do early and to avoid mistakes. U can just use daimon and put other random units and he's still gonna carry you.
Should I use other units with the same symbol as him?
Its fine if u dont. Ur gonna be lvling fodders. This is explained in the guides so i recommend reading them.
Okay, thanks
it's shit. say you got 50 elite heroes til ch15, all the 50 elite heroes are dog compared to what you wouldve gotten if uou set your wishlist. now the 50 dog elite heroes will set you back
swap nnara and daimon
and just attempt 20k times till i get it?
so youre planning to fod those heroes? it's going to hinder your progression even more later on. those heroes that look cool still contribute to the game later on, just not now
and even if youre gonna fod them, u dont veen have a single copy of the useful heroes to begin with
How well is brutus taking for you, and I think nara is pointless here since there's no immediate problem target like a Isabelle or something that's gonna instawhipe ur team. Also how well is AThane doing for you?
brutus is a tanking horridly, lasts like 2 seconds, thane does decent but dies very quickly once my brutus dies as hes in the enemy side and gets targeted by everyone before ult 90% of the time, with rng he might get one ult off
Whoever suggested brutus to u probably forgot that he doesn't get the longer immunity until 141, his immunity shield lasts for 7sec (?) then. I'd take Brutus out for a lyca if u have her. Can I see your box? Wanna try and find some replacement units u could throw in for athane and Nara
Slowly build fodders. Ur heroes are gonna get stuck at lvl 140 unless u get 4 other heroes to L+.
Oden
Lyca
Rowan
Lucias
Daimon
U could try this or some variation of it. Take out Lucretia, pippa, and Khasos from crystal to make room
whats the > for?
Those are frontline
Showcases on which hero is Frontline.
figured ill try that
everyone besides daimon gets okod
By who?
my oden gets sniped by silv/kaz, lucius by hogan, rowan gets piled by everyone, by okod i mean in under 3 seconds
do library unions only work for the characters in the union or is it acc wide
Hmm, I'd just hold then. Could just merc a Lucretia if u haven't used ur campaign merc this week. Tho I'd wait until closer to reset to use campaign merc.
Library unions work for the characters in the union. So the Belinda and Lucias union buffs them 2 only
i used my merc 2 chapters ago xd
U cleared 2 chapters since reset? Well done
waiting is the worst tho :/
It's called Afk arena for a reason
9 more summons and i can cruise with daimonds si
fair
thanks for the help @crimson shale

I need help with a stage,any help?
If u need help then just post it here and someone will get to u if able
Any help here?
Any tips for this stage guys? Or am I too weak, been trying this for few hours
Pain
What kind of line up should i use?
Try and take out tasi, using ezizh nara.maybe
Ideas for the last stage??
Raku always almost kills lyca, then hendrik jumps on her and nemora heals everyone to full :/
No back line hoppers?
What do you mean?
Assassins.
Nara pulls enemies to her so I guess that kinda counts
If you can’t delete their backline quick enough that will just keep happening. (Also is it me or are your heroes underleveled) saving up?
Being underleveld is normal at this point and yes I know I lack damage, that's why I'm seeking help here on how to optimize my lineup :)
Hm, do you mind sending a pic of your hero storage
Here you go..
Bit messy cause I took off a bunch from rc to make space for hypo tower tomorrow lol
Who’s your lowest dmg so far (besides your supports and tank)
When After battle I mean
Raku is my only real damage dealer. Everyone else is just there to tank and support
Is there no one who you have besides rowan who can heal your team as well
would put eironn on nemora instead of nara
I swapped raku for oden and passed it lol
Ahhhh
help
Can daimon survive front row?
ill try
sometimes he uses his ults and dies to mirael
Have you tried putting rowan in the front row
nope
The top two would be suggestive, if you can’t tank all their dmg
no faction bonus tho?
Faction bonus doesn’t always matter.
ok
Sometimes the game just throws shit at you and sometimes you just throw shit back xD
Hypo facts
when mirael gets her ult daimon just dies
Do you have any silencers
nara?
If she can stop her ult then that could help
just kill them before she ults
Not as simple as it sounds
estrilda gives them energy and disrupts backline mid
get their hp to 0
if they revive repeat
i think it is very simple
iz this good?
Not the logical kind of sense to be adding to this game
it works everytime for me
well unless they kill me first
If thoran gets eradicated and you can’t seem to pass through no matter what try and level up wu Kong to 100, after passed 100 he’s not that good though depending on your lineup.
anyone i should change for campaign?
forgot the horse ladies name she gives off haste and energy.
Swap thoran for wu Kong for the most part.
ferael also takes energy away from daimon
btw us eulard good in that line up?
Damn that sucks
it does
(Estrilda)
Eluards only use is in temporal rift, he underperforms in campaign, tower,…
why is he so tanky though
oh can u recommend a lineup for campaign @vocal rivet
Try changing around your positioning if you have?
Sheild
Depends on your level difference 😅 he is okayish at around 140 lvl diff, but drops off really quick
angelo uses angles and hits everyone so annoying lmao
Oooof
Graveborns is usually the best starting comp. Grezhul brutus/thoran frontline
Ferael/ oden silas daimon backline
Sad i dont have much units
Graveborns alone will get you to chap 31 in a few months
It takes time, no need to rush anything. Use faction scrolls on graveborns only and you’ll be good to go
I wish I had grez, ugh, he would be so good in my comp
And yes it’s a whole mess
WTF
brruuuuh
?
they die
You are still at the beginning of the game, you’ll eventually get him 👌🏼
the cc kills bruuuuuuh
Yeah, I’m just not lucky enough rn. Saving for a better comp
Their backline murders you
to make you feel better i pulled two awakened today back to back
Any way I could Improve? rainbow team goo
does daimon and ainz work together?
sometimes yes, sometimes gwen does better
What about lightbearers(im adjusting my wishlists)
=ascension101
Anakin's Group-Ascension 101
Here are some priority heroes you should ascend first if you can if you have 8/8 copies for them - You can use this to see the priority heroes that you should start out wishlisting: This is a GROUP-Priority list (Which means - not in a particular order, they have different priorities when one held against the other). Overall you want to focus on the first group of heroes (the priority), before moving on to the 2nd and 3rd group, etc.
For what is in parentheses, if you don't want that - like (Tower), a tower hero - Then skip.
Lightbearers (LB):
Rowan, Raine, Rosa, Scarlet, Estrilda | > | Morrow, Gwyn, Hendrik | > | Peggy, Cecilia | > | Lucius, Belinda, Fawkes, Eluard | > | Rest
Maulers:
Kren, Skriath, Tidus, Skreg, Numisu | > | Satrana (Purely CR) | > | Antandra (Late game/CR/Tower), Granit (High deficit with +30 to help Luc) | > | Brutus, Warek (For TR/CR), Safiya (Powercap/CR), Vurk | > | Rest
Wilders:
Raku, Mishka, Eironn, Lyca, Pippa | > | Gorvo, Saurus (CR), Tasi, Astar (PVP/CR) & Nemora | > | Lorsan | > | Rest
Graveborn (GB):
Daimon, Grezhul, Thoran, ferael, Silas, Oden | > | Hodgkin | > | Izold (Tower/TR/CR), Baden (CR/TR) & Torne (Purely CR), Desira (Temporal Rift) & Isabella (CR) | > | Kelthur | > | Theowynn & Treznor | > | Nara | > | Rest
There are heroes that you would like want 1 copy of early, like Cecilia, Lorsan, Brutus, Safiya, Baden, Tasi, Nara & Kelthur - add these early on, but only for one copy instead of 8.
I would not get stars on anyone (carries or for engravings) until you have aleast 8/8 copies of the priority heroes (The first group of heroes) - Max 2 spots on WL for stars, after priorities
I would keep scrolling GB until you have the priority ascended (The first group of heroes, the 6 GBs) - once you have 8/8 copies of the priority GBs, you can use the cards on wilders, but keep scrolling GB for fodder
First 5 heroes named should be on your wishlist for each faction
to help you this is my normal setup
I have 2 of these 5..
thank you(if it werent for u i might have dropped the game)
daimon should carry you aslong as he kills one
pooog i actually beat it
you can switch it around ferael thoran and eiron isnt necessary
you can use heroes that lock down, buffs or debuffs enemies
No worries xd just keep on progressing👌🏼 this game is all about afking and collecting enough ressources to progress further. E.g. it would take me at least 4 months (without paying) to beat a chapter just to collect enough ressources, build the correct heroes,… so just chill and take your time
how does chapter 42 feel?
Just beat chapter 41 last week, so Im taking at least a month break in pushing campaign. 🙃
a month break??????????????????
do you run alts?
I would probably be able to reach 42-16/20 (at my current lvl 516 and my investment), but if I push in a month or two I’d definitely be able to get atleast to 30.
Quick opinion, who should I ascend or save up for
o ok
Hell no xd that would be way to time consuming
Daimon is #1 early game carry
recommend not ascending unless you have 8 copies 4 if their signature is one of the best
how many deficit?
sheeesh
is daimon still relevant?
quick maths moment
Probably just need some heavy rng at that deficit. Is your luc e65? That helped me get through a lot of stages
Sadly I don’t hVe copies of daimon, but I can ascend silvan once .
So should I or not?
Get silvana to legy+ for now 👍🏼
you should since its already legendary
Alright
bro why is daimon like this
i passed my main in like 10 days
or less i dont know
i spent a lot of time like 2 years ago aswell
lmao
is shermin good?
nah
her lifesteal doesnt cut high deficit
daimon steals percentage of heroes helath and uses it as shield
i wasted resources on her
scales with the levels
Yes
wdym by dimensional fodder
I upgraded her
She does a little more but I’m still stuck asf xD
when you get dimensionals, you need to link them to a character, the dimensional hero gets that characters rarity and level
I can still remember the good old times where shemira was the main carry up until chapter 24 and then belinda took over her carry spot ☺️
oh ok
so u build her for nemora boss and feed to a dimensional hero
you dont feed you just link, you wont loose the character
Ya, but she isn’t necessarily used in higher levels of twisted realm. There usually is morael and skriath the most used heroes
anything?
aww ok
Use faction bonuses 🤣 I’d probably remove ainz for another gb
honestly this are like the stages i get stuck on
isabella just shreds daimon
aezizh is what i wish to get but i get back to back awakened thane today on normal summons
Try Brutus, Talene, Daimon, Lyca, Nara
Yes swap lycas and ainz position and seap ainz for nara. This way nara hooks belinda and she won’t be able to shred you as fast
Lol im still at 0 copies
I feel bad for you 
i do too
thoughts on awakened heroes?
they are bad cause I wont get them
hahahha
Get 600ish cards and ask again
lmao
it ended up less succesful
I used 587 cards for 11 copies 
Wtf…I need mental help
Maybe swap Lyca and Talene
swap with what
thats tough ya got vedan that destroys your team with bats isabella that once her ults pop your dead and 3 faction bonus
Positions
I did a trillion different order
It’s bulshit 
unless you get enough damage or cc you can pass this
yessssssssss
if isabella gets her ult I try again insantly
finaly kren ascended 😛
PASSED IT XD
good more to come
i was on those chapters like in the first day when the server opened i just got lucky with pulling atalene and athane
really carried the momentum in campaign
what server are you on?
who should i replace with shemira?
whats the heroes?
Anyone cuz ill pray to get it
I see
doesnt work like t hat
true unless it on wishlist
whats you current wishlist
The one that the command msged
should be good
you just need to pull the correct heroes like atalene, athane, daimon, and various of situation heroes
982
an old 1 im at 984
Ah
latest 1 is 985
Also I just got a huge ascension upgrades
pog
984 but chapter 24 already?
got really lucky ngl
🐳
honestly some people in my server spend more than me their already at chap 29 and hape their rc 243 which is crazy
only spend on the diamond deals
oh
like the campaign ones
🐳
Standing here I realize-
thats good
only thing you need now is luck
what is the limit of lucretia invasion?
Wat dat?
a hero that gets more powerful with allies and enemies dying
At this point you should probablychange channels
who?
you
what like who?
lucretia
nah i really dont care lmao i just get pumped in campaign and stuff
im fine with top 10
no I mean you are in #lineup-help
what does that mean lmao
dun have her
i just want to go through chapters like a blitz to maximise the gap between the others and me
so i get more afk resources
push more stages more sleep?
yes
its kinda cringe they give you 20 faction scrolls for chapter 24 i expect more ngl
Lucretia invasion needs dual divinity which U won't get until ch36
And before chapter 38 u dont need Lucretia invade
Who should I ascend instead?
Don't fodder elites
Don't ascend heroes if you don't have the copies for atleast L+
what role comp do you want in a lineup?
should i swap out heroes, or just keep rnging this
I'll give you the same advice I gave someone else in another channel:
#944100675820879972 message
Basically don’t do shemira at all unless u are going all in on her
Just don’t do Shemira at all no matter what
Do you think I can beat this?
I do but I’ve found pippa is way more effective
U don’t have si20 u are just sending grez to die
That’s si 10
Any suggestions for this specific stage? (I’ve tried Silva, daimon, brutus, tasi, mira, shemira, skreg, oden, Silas, desira, rowan, isabel, in mixed ways)
What can I do here?
29-60. Need to complete in the next 24 hrs for Misty Valley, merc has been used
Also looking for advice on who to use the hero choice on
Did you check afk helper?
Where is AFK helper?
Yep. Been trying the arrangements, haven’t gotten it to work
Any suggestions? (Dont talk about order)
Thank you.
Well to start, Gwyneth sucks.
Ok good luck 👍
But if you gift me anyone better I am listening
Ok, well, AFK Helper doesn't have anything even close to my teams so can anyone help me on this one or am I too weak right now?
I used my merc already.
You have a Lyca
I die faster
Help?
Just got Nara and Baden and wanted to know if I should replace anyone, thoughts?
Nara can be helpful to pull enemies out of their original place, so it's pretty situational AFAIK.
Baden is not in GB priority list.
Alright thanks
Need help on this stage
tried change ainz to someone else? hes dependant of albedo
Try:
Daimon
Brutus
Rowan
Thoran
Merlin
any fawkes counter?
Ferael is one that i know of
luck base
Luck? Well kind yes "luck" but its not something that will take many retries. U just need ferael to terrify fawkes.
alr
Someone passed 39-48 without Lucretia e60?
U can check afkhelper to try and find such a clear, but by then u should have e60 on luc
everyone has luc e60 and it kinda seems is impossible without it
How do u not have e60 already? What've u been engraving?
I don't have her 1 star
I'd go gaze for her star if you're not already
Gratz
who should I M first, thoran or grezhul?
theyd be my first m hero, could also go with raine which would m my ainz
what line up should i use
How to improve this comp:(
Other than shift my joker haha, I've been messing with positioning
What do you mean by 9f
your furn
Ohh, still haven’t gotten them
U made a mistake taking heroes to L when u cant even take them to L+. How many L heroes do u have?
For now i recommend reading the pinned beginner guides in #classic-questions. It will guide u to a path u can take and mistakes to avoid.
Its hard to advice on a stage i cant see the enemies,positions,etc. And yes if u want u can consider using a merc.

Daimon Grezhul arden rowan lyca/oden/farael
What are good defensive teams for the Arena? They should survive Ainz teams and not use Ainz themselves
if you got higher level then your enemy Alna Grez Oden SIlas Farael work 90% for me
when enemy got a higher level u prob need to use ainz yourself
what about this one
it worked ?
Brutus Lyca Daimon Rowan Farael/Oden/Arden/totem dude
alr thanks
Depending on the ainz enemy about 50 def work
Is there any moment where Rosaline is placed to follow Rowan? Or is Rosaline always paired up to the Carry?
there is no lineup i know where she follows rowan
mostly damage dealers cause she gives attack boost
Thank you
In LB tower you can let her follow Estrilda in some stages, worked well for me
=furniture
(22nd Jan 2022 - removed Gwyneth, added Scarlet)
Bok's Guide for Beginner Furniture Wishlists (PVE).
Ainz Grezhul Lucretia Mishka should stay on, even if you don't have a single copy of them. Swap the rest around depending on your current ascensions (ask if you're unsure).
Faction tower furniture are of lower priority than campaign ones (notice the arrow before LB tower). You might not want to do some faction tower furniture in favour of other modes, depending on what you're interested in.
Use red cards (aka Mythic Order Forms) on Grezhul > Ainz/Skriath/Alna/Mishka > Lucretia.
Initial furniture wishlist for beginners
Ainz 9, Grezhul 9, Lucretia 9, Mishka 9, for the remaining 6 empty slots take your pick from below depending on which heroes are closest to being Ascended
Thoran 3 or 9 (notes), Daimon 3, Raku 3, Oden 9, Silas 3, Albedo 3, Scarlet 9, Ferael 9, Skriath 3, Kren 3, Leonardo da Vinci 3, Silas 9, Kren 9, Raine 3, Leonardo da Vinci 9, Prince of Persia 3, Arthur 3, Merlin 9, Nemora 9, Alna 9 (notes), Zolrath 3, Brutus 3, Estrilda 3 (Dark Nemora TR) > Morrow 3 (LB tower), Tidus 3 and Skreg 9 (Mauler tower), Eironn&Tasi 3 (Wilder tower), Desira 3 and Izold 9 (GB tower)
Notes
Thoran - 9 reduces retry RNG; I advocate going for early event 5* Call frags (after Rowan and 2 carries' +30s). If you're willing to put up with more retries, then stop at 3.
Alna - 9 deserves red cards but the problem is that she's usually the second celepog for beginners (Lucretia is usually first to be done). This means you'll only get her to Ascended after about 1 year of playing, hence her "low" priority.
If you eventually gain an interest in competitive AE (Top 100 ranks) and/or PVP, ask other people for recommendations. This guide does not focus on those.
honestly a very depressing box. do you have any red emblem chests? some heroes at their proper si might be able to help you, one for example is rowan's si at 30.
Also Ainz is pretty meh if you don't have Albedo garrisoned alongside him
ill take it that you're a returning player
which big guy, Ainz?
Ok so first off. I'm not sure how you're going through multis, perhaps your other carry is Belinda, but i have no idea whatsoever on how strong/relevant she is as she died like year/s ago
Ainz wants Albedo in his team to perform well, preferably Albedo at SI30 alongside another dimensional hero, like King Arthur(the one you would get from labyrinth store, 15 shards in exchange for 60k coins which is what you should focus on getting.)
for your box, shemira and belinda is irrelevant but if you're running either as a carry for your 2nd team then you can continue using them as i see no other heroes to potentially become a carry for your second team.
I'm not sure exactly where to start so it would be better for you to ask questions lol. anyways reading the guides pinned in #classic-questions might give you the slightest idea of what's going on. afterwards just ask loads of questions that'll set you back on track.
reminders are you dont have to starchase heroes(aka just remove them from your wishlist once they get 8 copies or 10, for some)
you can run through the commands in #classic-questions for things like stargazing priority, coins allocation, furniture wishlist and etc. one that doesn't have a command is for si30 priorities. since Ainz is already at 29, you might as well 30 him. after him, it's best to do Rowan as his si30 is extremely useful in many cases. after Rowan, just ask again posting the screenshot of your heroes whenever, because as of now there's pretty much no other appropriate heroes until you fix em.
TLDR read guides, run through all commands, ask as much questions as possible, even if they're dumb ones which are fine
i cant cover through everything since i have no slight idea on how in the fucking world people run carries other than the meta rn, so u might want to ask in #classic-questions to have more opinions
borrowing one from the heroes' return thingy? yeah that might work. her si30 is helpful as she gives ainz 30% more attack rating. 45% if there's another dimensional hero in your team.
How far this lineup can take me?
Not very far. If u want to make it far then read the pinned guides in #classic-questions. Also stop making L heroes.
Help. The damn thane keeps teleporting everywhere and killing everyone
any ideas?
u can’t cheese brutus without +30 thoran
what about charm 1st round? and do ainz for 2nd?
assuming ur luc can’t clear 2nd round
anything could work? or do I need to upgrade my stuff before having a chance
wanna add me so you can see what i did for that lmao @rigid stag
i did that like 4 days ago
sure, a whale friend is always good
added you
i think i used eiron pull thoran and fereal
if angelo disrupts change ferael to lyca
I dont have any of those
I got to this stage and this is what was there lol
Just ascended luc so ill try again for 2nd round and what is charm?
replace gwyneth with atalene and put kalene back line
you could also experiment with pippa or oden
I mean I passed that stage a bit ago
im at -6 now
are u stuck at it
yep
can u see formations used in those levels @rigid stag
I can
got it now
try using those if you have the available heroes
only avalible are just... with that power I could do it too
He might have just spent a ton, getting all his heroes on higher ascension, then just blazing through
still overkill
nice then use her for 1st round, and just whatever for 2nd round.
Charm is Lyca, rowan, flex ( probably daimon or grez) , mehira, raku
Ainz or gb can work
yep used her for first and ainz for 2nd
Daimon frontline or back line?
if he can survive frontline put him there
Hey guys I’ve been doing good playing on my own but I could use some lineup help I’ve made it to chapter 28-44 and could use some advice
stop ascending heroes to L without getting them to L+ immediately youre wasting fodder
I’m sorry I’ve been just trying on my own what is L or L+
Legendary, Legendary+ (Yellow, and Yellow with these edges)
I learned that all too recently unfortunately now im stuck where I am so I could use some lineup help moving forward
kinda hard to give you lineup help if we dont know what youre up against
Trying to move thru chapters 28-44and kings tower 325 fl
i still dont know what youre up against?
just a post a screenshot of the stage
you should just send a screenshot of the stage youre stuck at
liek this
and then ask for lineup help because its kinda hard to just give general advice
anyone have any clue for the 400 mark
Have tried 5p?
5p?
5 pull
Safiya
Lyca
Erionn
Chicken
Lucy
thx it worked
chicken?
skriath
That's all I get wow 
what else do you want 💀
Nothing 
great then youre all set
Hello, what’ the best way to complete this comp? Pvp
Eironn / Skriath can work?
Astar ?
anyone help pls
You have mehira e?
yh
Mayyyyyybe try
Daimon
Brutus
Mehira
Rowan
Raku
It probably won't work 
Mehira with book artifact
got absolutely destroyed
Hmm I think you need lyca for this to work
i got lyca
But you used her 
nah i quit that run
Oh okay swap lyca with Brutus
still not working
Supposed to work
what's the problem?
raku basically insta dies
Try barricade Daimon or raku with shroud?
then daimon does some good damage but cant outdmg the heal
Raku needs to live its just rng
nice got it now i put barricade and shroud on them and it worked
Second battle is ez 
not really lol
Lucy 5 pull 
dont have lyca
No need for her use Brutus or some shit

Guys

Can I get some help to make my team
im backk
Make sure play lucr + eironn(middle back) + skraith on one (fill with something)
And like ainz albedo Arthur + ferael and oden or ldv or rowan
Is your 5p working for r2?
yh
Cool the for r1 use
Raku (shroud)
Rowan
Mehira
Lyca
Daimon
used lyca for luc]
ill do it over with brutus
Well then don't 
what 5 should i use
got absolutely destroyed
7 seconds and its over
errion ain't pulling?
there is no eironn in there
Wut you using
Wait what are you talking about? R1 or r2?
r1
Ok it's rng
i already got r2 again with brutus
What arti you using?
ok got it 3* now
Lyca with shroud too
oh so i need shroud stars too?
If you can get shroud to 3* too do that as well for less rng
Hello @spring pulsar,
Please check out the pinned messages/guides in the #classic-questions and #lineup-help channels.
done
What do i do here? +17 damon byw
why is he +17
Si 17
yeah why
Bcuz ppl told me to rush +20
so u dont have enough emblems?
No
still not working
Anyone?
Maybe Rowan has to survive? Or try manual with no raku ult until the end or he can chain kill?
Hey guys I need some help. Stuck on 29-60
Ok whom don’t u recommend to murder ?
I mean who do u recommend to murder 😅
All enemies
Haha. Awesome . Just tell me how ? ☺️
Get their HP to 0 before yours gets to 0
brutus
Ok Brutus 👍🏼
because brutus wont be murdered
Easy plan, just need a good strategy
Ok, now 200 tries and I’ll switch Rowan then
Idk why, but Thoran is supposed to ult but it dies 
Not wining 😅
Lorsan
Thoran
Rowan
Daimon
Fereal

I’ll try. Thank u 🙏🏼
Could just be rng
I’ve been trying for quite a time and still no hope, I’ve seen others and they ulted normally
U got the same gear and artis?
yeah
Imma need some help with this because its not working
U got 3* windbinder and good gear on raku?
Windbinder yes good gear no
And ig good boots on rowan for dodge
Just resonance
These back 3 in conjuction are too op for me, naras pull does almost nothing against them, numisu spawning totems distracts my daimon, and nemora heals the whole team when they are close to dying
T1
That should hold for rowan, raku prob just needs better gear tbh
What would be good enough?
I'd say T2 at least for raku
I have everything t2 now except his helmet is that a problem?
Shouldn't be, boots and weapon would suffice, could just be rng and making sure raku doesn't ult by doing manual
So raku shouldnt ult at all?
Yes, most people do raku on manual because if he doesn't kill someone with the ult, it hurts his dps iirc
Ohh
Also getting his 3f will be very beneficial for him
Actually nobody even gets a chance to ult
Not even mehira with windbinder and rowan potion? Should be almost instant ult
Nope
Send a replay
She dies when her bar is full
Wouldnt the file be too big for dc?
If everyone dies instantly, shouldn't be too big
Ahh arden root. Could just be rng, could also try cheese if u get thoran 3f.
Dont have 3f on thoran sadly
Maybe try it on 2x auto until mehira ults and then put it on manual. Good luck. Maybe raku needs t3 as well
Just got mehira to ult and raku didnt do much after
Mehira ulted died and then 2 seconds later raku died
Still no luck
Oh i just got r1 with 5p now im hoping i can get 2r aswell lol
Guess i need help with this one now
Brutus daimon
Ferael(if he is high enough, otherwise go for silas)
Rowan oden
Look for a new good lineup just need one more daimon and i can get him to mythic plus
I think you need t3 boots on raku and t2(any faction) boots on mehira for her haste.
I don't think this one is Charmable for you 
I am gettin shredded but i feel like i can win. Any ideas?
Dw i finished the chapter
Oh yeah dont mind the current line up im usin, just testing evrery possible formation
Nvm got it, i just threw in oden and fawkes
I cant really help u with the lineup but i can give u some general advice
Dont ascend heroes to L if you cant bring them to L+
Welcome to 3 teams
Yay this is my downfall since i dont have thoran 3f lol
Any suggestions for this? The second team is easy, and even my weaker teams (Raku+Mehira, Ainzedo) are working on that.
this good for campaign?(dont have much heroes)
Go to the pins in #classic-questions. There are the good heros and some tips for starting the game. Your heros aren't bad but using these guides will help you get better a lot faster than if you were to continue what you are doing right now.
Hi , can someone help to put together a team to progress in campaign ? Im stuck at 13-6 and dont know where to go with my units , i've been following the beginner guide on progression and fodder , but putting together a team is harder n__n
Ok, first of all, just for future reference, you also have to send a picture of the level that you are on as well as your team. Anyways, second, you need to start using the resonating crystal. https://afkhelper.nax.is this will help you look and see what the best teams are and then you can plan that from there. Try that first.
Thank you ! Im lvl 67 if that matter , i reset my RC before asking for help to be ready to assemble some teams 🙂 Ill look into that site
Ok. Probably don't reset you RC though. It takes too long to be able to put a new hero on there. Just put a hero on the RC and don't move them unless you absolutely need it which I doubt will ever happen and even then it still takes 24hrs.
well , i dont have the units that the website suggests haha
everyone is using Daimon , Lyca or Saurus (or those fancy hypogeans lol)
Daimon at Elite works ? i have the chest that lets me pick a hero
Yeah, that happens a lot. It shows what the best there is. Yes, get a Daimon and then just use the RC while you get him up. I will see if I can find names of heros and give you good ones to put together for teams.
Oden, Daimon, Silas, Grezhul, Scarlet, Brutus, Tasi, Granit, Serius, Alna, Astar, and Nemora/Numisu. These are some of the heros that I saw that you should put on the RC. I would say get Oden, Daimon, Silas, Brutus, Scarlet, and Grezhul on there first if you can.
Put this heroes in crystal: silas,nara,brutus,scarlet,oden,ferael,alna
They should help u progress.
So i put everyone u told me plus , Grezhul as @opaque pumice recommend . I still have my "pick a hero chest" just in case
now is time of trial and error i guess hahaha
Thank you for your time guys ❤️
I GOT IT !
Nice, good job.
ty bro 🙂
Hey I feel like I'm at a much lower deficit than I should be rn (chapt 13), any team building advice?
So many good heroes
Read the pinned guides in #classic-questions so u know what to do early and to avoid mistakes. Ur should team should be daimon,rowan,brutus,2 flex.
Should I reset anyone? Please help
Just keep levelling wukong any time you can until he hits lvl 100 pretty much. The other heroes you have levelled right now are fine.
Make sure you read the pinned guides in #classic-questions so you know what to do after lvl 100 @keen jetty
Suggestions on how i can alter this team? Estrilda and rosa survives at the end so tea cups fucks raku.
Maybe grez or daimon with barricade instead of brutus? and put lyca frontline
Oopsie the tea cups just nuked the shit out of grez.
And for some reason mehira takes longer to ult. I was hoping she'll ult before grez dies.
i was ognna suggest doing rowan pos 2 then i remembered that the tea cups arent dodgeable
Yea thats the problem cuz maybe i can just rng estrilda with dodge but tea cups cant be dodged.
you could try pos 2 rowan, lyca pos1 and disabler on pos 5 like aezizh or such, sounds like ass but who knows, might work(prolly not)
Uh help?
Wow thx for suggesting aezizh it fucking worked. Thx too @oblique nebula grez barricade worked. Im finally ch32.
💀 it fucing wokred
i learnt that from when i needed my luc to survive in hypto tower
freeze the fuckin maid
Try:
Ainz/luc
Thoran/brutus
Brutus/merlin
Grez
Merlin/ainz
nice glad it worked
Any idea what’s wrong,
I just want to pass this one stage, oh my gosh I'm so frustrated 
@oblique nebula sorry for the ping, but, any thoughts?
Swap ghrezul with daimon and remove Silas for Nara maybe?
Just a thought^
I'll try @hushed sorrel, my bottom left troops get one shot tho
That’s ok
grez is useless, mira isn’t needed when u use daimon
might do smth like daimon, thoran, nara, rowan, lyca
I’ll keep that in mind, for future help
@oblique nebula I see, well, Idk, maybe it's impossible for me to pass it at the moment
that's actually hard to beat
Any tips on what I should do?
I don’t really remember much about early game, but try to rng it and swap nara around to hook the most annoying backline.
if rowan doesn’t seem to help then put Silas back in or rosaline
@oblique nebula still no luck, I don't put out enough damage to kill any of the enemies
Honestly not really. You keep ascending ascended tier heroes, you should focus on legendary tier ones until lvl 160. Also you don’t have a damage dealer.
I had no trouble getting through the last 15 stages but I just cant get past this any tips on what I can change?
Help my team gets destroyed while not being able to kill any enemy most of the time
please
How are my teams losing to this? Is it the level deficit????
My engravings^^
This is defense btw, I win every battle offensive
Any ideas here? This comp is supposed to work as of 2 formations but I may be too high leveled for it to work, 5p/zaph are also available, any ideas?
what 5 do i use im in chapter 6
I'd recommend you look at the beginners' guides in #classic-questions. They'll get you working on the right heroes. I didn't have any trouble with Ch 6 with those heroes. But you'll have to keep levelling them.
Idk, you could try Ezizh across from Mirael, Lyca and Rowan up front
I’ve been stuck for a long time on my team, does anyone have any ideas for anyone I should build or where I should go from here? I’ve been thinking of building audrae but I’ve been told not to
izold lucretia oden
Any idea as to what to do, I w gone through a bunch of different forms but nothings working
I still remember using a merc in that stage cuz the fawkes+tasi is fucked up 💀
Try:
Ferael
Daimon/rowan
Silas/astar/rowan/daimon
Thoran/brutus
Lyca/astar/oden
Why?
Just get ur ascended to 240
no
tasi banish is the problem
and angelo and estrilda can interupt your eiron pull so change it rowan insstead
Lmao
I think i did wit just ainz 2 sum
ill garrison him later
Use thane
he dies immediately
Who does he go after
the old man with shotgun
Like he dies hella quick?
ye
He got bad gear prob
Mines only 200 vs 310
does he survive?
Yea for a while until ainz uses his skill
the fight last 11 seconds
The guy wit the bow is the main prob?
tasi and ferael
U cant lvl up anyone?
nah
Send a ss of ur heros
Hella elite+
yes
Who should I put on
@lean nexus can u help me build a team?
you can use mishka astar thoran kalene and rowan
also i would advice you reading in to guides
kaz is big
also instead of ascending purple tier heroes ascend blue tier heroes to legend+
can we see your artis?
I never used Aezizh - does he disable the fera?
Also might swap around rowan and fera, depending on who can frontline better. Take call off of rowan (if he has it), if he doesn't survive long enough to ult anyways, so daimon gets more energy regen
yes
i have 3 slots for the call
He does disable Fera, Id swap Fera and Rowan as well, Call on Rowan is better that annything at this stage because it gives him more haste -> he activates his passive faster and more frequently
you mean his immunity or his restock?
immunity 🙂



