#lineup-help

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azure sphinx
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passed it. amazing thanks

glacial latch
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Grez dies too quickly, and Ainz/Oden follow soon after 😦 I'll try this with Raku tomorrow once I have him on RC, but I suspect he won't survive once Grez is down either.

paper minnow
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Thoran sucks as tank.

paper minnow
glacial latch
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Does she not work without that? I can try this comp out tomorrow (both Raku and Mehira waiting for RC cooldown.)

paper minnow
paper minnow
# glacial latch What about Call?

Call gives energy every second so its gonna take a while. Windbinder gives 350 (iirc) energy at the start of the battle plus u have rowan +30 so thats an almost instant ult.

glacial latch
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Probably good for Ainz too?

paper minnow
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Yea. Though im not sure i havent really tried it myself.

crimson shale
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He can use book, but usually wants hat

glacial latch
crimson shale
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Ye

glacial latch
# crimson shale Ye

Got it. Looks like that is only available after 32-30, so will be a while for me. Will try with what I’ve got for now.

ivory karma
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Any help with this ch? 🤓

noble mist
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Need help... im stuck in 11-16

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The big tank+saveas clapped me hard

noble mist
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wtf rosaline frontline works lmao

smoky oasis
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Hey guys, is there any recommended heroes for me to use? Just got back to play this game again

coral pier
smoky oasis
coral pier
# smoky oasis Old one

Since this is only a day of progress I recommend starting over on the newest server. Then go to #classic-questions and read pinned messages to get a good wishlist and read the beginner guides in general.

smoky oasis
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Is it cause of better rewards from the beginning?

coral pier
smoky oasis
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I see

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Alright already did with your suggestion, thanks for the help👍

coral pier
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👍

zealous hatch
gray ermine
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Help vedan’s ult is annoying

cunning warren
keen rain
gray ermine
keen rain
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oh damn, then dont sub someone out for rosa
since daimon on pos 1 would get his energy sucked by isabel

gray ermine
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Hmmmm

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Lemme try again that position with Rosa

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Same result

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Tough

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I thought I could use bucket head to steal vedan’s energy but he dies quick from silvina

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Raku do you think swapping fera or silvina for lyca would be a good idea?

keen rain
gray ermine
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True

zealous hatch
rain mural
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💀

storm tide
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I need help with this stage, been trying some formation from afk helper for hours but it doesn't work

daring sequoia
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any clue on how to beat

stone roost
fresh raven
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What artifacts should i be using

azure sphinx
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any help would be appreciated

white patrol
desert lintel
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This will be game changing for me

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Who should I use it on??

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This will be game changing for me pls answer

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? I didn't read

crystal apex
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Nvm I missed Grez lol….

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I’m still here, gimmie time to think.

desert lintel
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I can switch brutus and grez if it'll help me

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Idk though

crystal apex
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Na, not a point when your that close.

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There are a few things options. All involving that Brutus

desert lintel
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Brutus was a regret and a blessing

crystal apex
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Scarlet, Raku and Kren. Because you have a damage dealer for GB (and hence GB tower) it would probably be best to pick a main DD for one of the other factions.

desert lintel
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He got me through niche situations but is overall weak

crystal apex
cunning warren
desert lintel
cunning warren
desert lintel
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There must be a better option though @cunning warren

cunning warren
desert lintel
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Bro 💀 💀

cunning warren
desert lintel
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Just tell me a hero to swap man

pale kettle
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Moose is right you don’t have anyone worth changing right now

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You actually have a decent box

desert lintel
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I don't I fucked up when I started a month ago... Many mistakes were made @pale kettle

cunning warren
pale kettle
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Other than not having albedo your box is good

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You shouldn’t swap people unless you have furniture and SI investment otherwise its pointless

desert lintel
pale kettle
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She needs si30 asap

desert lintel
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Wdym si? (Sorry I don't understand short terminologies)

pale kettle
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And id si30 rowan too

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Bottom left item is SI

desert lintel
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@pale kettle if I get albedo, should I switch with brutus?

pale kettle
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Stop trying to switch people

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And no brutus is fantastic

desert lintel
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I meant fuse

pale kettle
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For now either lorsan or silas. Id prob do lorsan

desert lintel
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You're kinda right though, was my first epic and is pretty good tank, just thought someone would be better

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Like a thoran i thought would be better

desert lintel
pale kettle
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he is alright there are better ones but thank you

proven acorn
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Ezio kills everything besides niru

zealous ravine
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which 5 heroes should i put for resonating crystal for early campaign? just starting chapter 9 and slowly leveling fodder

proven acorn
zealous ravine
proven acorn
zealous ravine
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yes I understand, I'm just trying to go through campaign (chapter 9) right now so I'm wondering of the heroes I have, which 5 should I put on the resonating crystal for me to use at the moment

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aka what are the 5 best heroes in my roster I can put in a team generally speaking for campaign

proven acorn
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Ezizh back middle, diamon back right, Brutus and wukomg in front, and the new character in other back slot. Try that for rn and try to get diamon and ezizh to 120

zealous ravine
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perfect, thank you!

proven acorn
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If the new character doesn’t work well use oden and your welcome

zealous ravine
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sounds good. sorry if my question was confusing

proven acorn
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It’s all good

worldly wing
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i'm stuck in stage 13-4 and i can't figure out what team comp would be the best for me to go on (so could someone help me pls >*< ? )

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I hope i'm in the right channel else sorry >.<

azure sphinx
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what chapter are you on? there's a guide to late game pve comps

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I'm sure if you send your hero box more knowledgeable players can help you figure things out.
You could also visit afkhelper to look up comps for specific stages. Not really sure what kind of input you're looking for

white patrol
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I screwed up really big

eager lion
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Im wondering, what chapter are you?

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I see

wise zenith
pale kettle
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please

paper minnow
paper minnow
paper minnow
noble mist
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Guys I'm stuck in 11-22 and tower 141. Feels like I can't progress except just to wait it up, to gather enough dust to take my team to 140.

Also my tanks are dead like butter. Except for Golus.

zealous ravine
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am using brutus, daimon, wukong, ezizh. was using kalene but my trial ran out. suggestions on who i should put in the crystal as my 5th? currently stuck at 9-30

glad ridge
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Hint: save your shemira and almost never decide to give her up because of her high potential past level 140

zealous ravine
glad ridge
slow sleet
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Who should be in my team to get higher than 24B

opaque moss
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Tryin to make a team work

opaque moss
radiant jolt
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What to move around?

oblique nebula
ivory karma
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Any help with this stage?

tulip dagger
ivory karma
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Ive tried it too... And move eizh around

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The lineup that is in the pic is after trying all i could think. I also tried with arden, oden, mirael, talene, rowan...

worldly wing
paper minnow
worldly wing
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Okay thank you 😄

smoky oasis
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Need help with current lineupss, just got rowan and rosalinee

paper minnow
smoky oasis
normal haven
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someone help me please and ty

paper minnow
paper minnow
paper minnow
normal haven
paper minnow
normal haven
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cause he seems to be dealing dmg

smoky oasis
keen matrix
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how to defeat this stage 😅

worldly wing
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Okay i see and yeah i realised late that what i did with rosaline and numisu was wrong >.< xd But yeah this is the combo that i was using before but the stage that i fight in are stage with graveborns so my team with lightbearers got wrecked >.< and okay i try to do that but i don't know which hero should i wait for or try to focus on

pale kettle
pastel plank
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Grez front. Daimon back somewhere , Rowan back middle, Brutus front, feral back, ascended thane switch out maybe

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Thoran front if neither grez nor Brutus work

keen rain
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tldr it

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ok so i read it all. your box looks weak, doesnt look like your wishlist was set properly. id restart if i were you, unless you want to push with that box which would take a lot of time(and to fix your account)

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as for awakened heroes i know it's annoying how people in the same server abuse awakened heroes
you have a 0.1% chance to pull them and some assholes just reroll til they get an awakened hero

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also once again your box is shit your wishlist wasnt set id restart if i were u but if u dont want to then continue pushing, somehow, with that box

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you can push to ch14 in like 3 days with good enough luck

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yeah i dont get what 'duplicated heroes' is supposed to mean

pale kettle
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Also no fooder heroes is a big mistake

keen rain
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box=your heroes
also eitherway if u want to restart or not, try to read the guides pinned in #classic-questions to get a better understanding of this game

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so that account is made 2 or 3 years ago?

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i see. well if u dont mind you can restart because your account is kind of hard to fix with all the trash heroes lying around unless you dont mind. once again guides in #classic-questions

kindred remnant
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I am hard stuck and feel no progress (maybe because I'm a complete noob xd). Any suggestions?

pale kettle
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need help once againzaphtears

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god this chapter was so easy until like 21-50zaphtears

keen rain
pale kettle
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E+ ferael works?

keen rain
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mainly for his cc only yeah

pale kettle
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Ok no this goes even worse than before

keen rain
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then backline daimon and replace nara/lyca with grez

pale kettle
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Mmk

kindred remnant
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How to pass this? I'm stuck for 3 days here

twin ermine
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Hey guys . I am so stuck on 29-52, any advice ?

keen rain
twin ermine
keen rain
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or brutus rowan raku pop lyca

twin ermine
opaque trench
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hi I am currently stuck at 15-40. Any tips?

cobalt moth
# opaque trench hi I am currently stuck at 15-40. Any tips?

I'm just a noob, but it seems like you might want to reset some folks and look at the beginners guide pinned to #classic-questions, in particular Phoenix's guide in 1️⃣ . You need to concentrate on those first 5 fodder heroes and get them to 160 before branching out to work on other heroes. You can use the Resonating Crystal to make use of your other heroes while you're working on those first 5.

urban bough
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Am I too weak for this?

keen rain
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no, probably want to nara ferael or silvina instead of lyca and remove weap from your ferael

pale kettle
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Any ideas? I came very close to beating the level cause of rng but that was like 10 minutes ago

pale kettle
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@vernal pond he gets instantly melted

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And so do all of my heros morrowcry

normal haven
lament karma
pale kettle
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@normal haven yeah, Ik 😅, I just upgraded it so I could progress..

normal haven
kindred remnant
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Guess I need to wait for mercs huh?

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Like I can't outdamage the healing and the enemy team ends up not having anyone dead despite being very close to it xd

hushed sorrel
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What should I do here these are all my heroes

cobalt moth
pale kettle
azure sphinx
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Still stuck on this. I've had attempts where daimon and grez survive really long, but still can't kill anything together.

hushed sorrel
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Both daimon and rowan r sig20

hushed sorrel
pale kettle
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Do you have eironn?

hushed sorrel
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Sadly no, not even elite

pale kettle
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Nara?

hushed sorrel
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No😔

pale kettle
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Ferael?

hushed sorrel
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Yeah but only Elite

pale kettle
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Works

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Put him instead of silvina

hushed sorrel
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K

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Wth, that helped big time lol, thx @pale kettle

pale kettle
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Np

crimson shale
hushed sorrel
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I was switching around a lot especially with lyca cause I’ve past that kinda level a few times but that was the first where I had to use fereal

hollow palm
azure sphinx
hollow palm
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I did those chapters with a totally different meta and without some of the current powercreeps, so my advice might be flawed

hollow palm
azure sphinx
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Well you just confirmed what I suspected :/
Guess I'll just merc it next week if I don't get 3f till then

hushed sorrel
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@pale kettle the mireal is taking feraels fear thing instead of Bellas, what do I reccomend I do?

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You*

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Nvm, I figured it out

oblique nebula
azure sphinx
azure sphinx
oblique nebula
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yeah ulmus is really annoying, ig ur raku died early? keep retrying

azure sphinx
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Not ulmus, but baden and his clones
Raku died early-ish, yes

oblique nebula
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manual raku if needed, tho I don’t think that’s necessary where u at

glad ridge
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(Current lineup, Brutus, Tasi, daimon, silas, rowan) is there any good lineup that you can see? Or is there a comp I should look for to build up to

azure sphinx
oblique nebula
velvet gate
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What ones should i use

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@azure sphinx

smoky oasis
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Help meh im stuckk

azure sphinx
# velvet gate

Read the pinned guides in #classic-questions
And stop ascending elites to L if you don't have the copies to take them to L+.. You will and are running out of fodder

azure sphinx
velvet gate
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Ok

azure sphinx
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@oblique nebula really can't thank you enough. I must've done almost a thousand attempts over the last 2 days
Edit: raku is hecking cute and valid

smoky oasis
azure sphinx
smoky oasis
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Other than scarlet should i change other heroes?

azure sphinx
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Put fera on crystal when you get the chance. He's got good cc and debuff

smoky oasis
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Okay👍

shy panther
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who should i use for this stage?

vernal pond
nimble comet
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What does rosaline do?

coral pier
marble grove
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I'm quite new to the game and I pulled characters until my storage was full, what characters work well with each other?

paper minnow
marble grove
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Should I use other units with the same symbol as him?

paper minnow
marble grove
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Okay, thanks

keen rain
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it's shit. say you got 50 elite heroes til ch15, all the 50 elite heroes are dog compared to what you wouldve gotten if uou set your wishlist. now the 50 dog elite heroes will set you back

wheat wagon
keen rain
wheat wagon
keen rain
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so youre planning to fod those heroes? it's going to hinder your progression even more later on. those heroes that look cool still contribute to the game later on, just not now

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and even if youre gonna fod them, u dont veen have a single copy of the useful heroes to begin with

wheat wagon
crimson shale
# wheat wagon

How well is brutus taking for you, and I think nara is pointless here since there's no immediate problem target like a Isabelle or something that's gonna instawhipe ur team. Also how well is AThane doing for you?

wheat wagon
crimson shale
wheat wagon
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ik i have too many legendaries btw

paper minnow
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Slowly build fodders. Ur heroes are gonna get stuck at lvl 140 unless u get 4 other heroes to L+.

crimson shale
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Oden

Lyca
Rowan
Lucias
Daimon

U could try this or some variation of it. Take out Lucretia, pippa, and Khasos from crystal to make room

wheat wagon
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whats the > for?

crimson shale
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Those are frontline

tight juniper
wheat wagon
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figured ill try that

wheat wagon
crimson shale
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By who?

wheat wagon
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my oden gets sniped by silv/kaz, lucius by hogan, rowan gets piled by everyone, by okod i mean in under 3 seconds

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do library unions only work for the characters in the union or is it acc wide

crimson shale
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Hmm, I'd just hold then. Could just merc a Lucretia if u haven't used ur campaign merc this week. Tho I'd wait until closer to reset to use campaign merc.

Library unions work for the characters in the union. So the Belinda and Lucias union buffs them 2 only

wheat wagon
crimson shale
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U cleared 2 chapters since reset? Well done

wheat wagon
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gone from like 12-16 im psure

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been playing 11 days so far

crimson shale
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It's called Afk arena for a reason

wheat wagon
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9 more summons and i can cruise with daimonds si

wheat wagon
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thanks for the help @crimson shale

crimson shale
obsidian tangle
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I need help with a stage,any help?

crimson shale
obsidian tangle
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There!

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Any help? If so say it in chat plzz

opaque pumice
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Any help here?

storm tide
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Any tips for this stage guys? Or am I too weak, been trying this for few hours

limpid shell
light torrent
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What kind of line up should i use?

pastel plank
ivory karma
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Ideas for the last stage??

rigid stag
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chapter 18 ascended ew

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give me some of your luck

azure sphinx
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Raku always almost kills lyca, then hendrik jumps on her and nemora heals everyone to full :/

azure sphinx
glad ridge
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Assassins.

azure sphinx
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Nara pulls enemies to her so I guess that kinda counts

glad ridge
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If you can’t delete their backline quick enough that will just keep happening. (Also is it me or are your heroes underleveled) saving up?

azure sphinx
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Being underleveld is normal at this point and yes I know I lack damage, that's why I'm seeking help here on how to optimize my lineup :)

glad ridge
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Hm, do you mind sending a pic of your hero storage

azure sphinx
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Here you go..

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Bit messy cause I took off a bunch from rc to make space for hypo tower tomorrow lol

glad ridge
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When After battle I mean

azure sphinx
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Raku is my only real damage dealer. Everyone else is just there to tank and support

sterile elm
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Hey can anyone help me build my team

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I’ll send pics of who I got

glad ridge
proven river
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would put eironn on nemora instead of nara

azure sphinx
glad ridge
lean nexus
azure sphinx
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Can daimon survive front row?

lean nexus
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ill try

lean nexus
glad ridge
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Have you tried putting rowan in the front row

glad ridge
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The top two would be suggestive, if you can’t tank all their dmg

lean nexus
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no faction bonus tho?

glad ridge
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Faction bonus doesn’t always matter.

lean nexus
glad ridge
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Sometimes the game just throws shit at you and sometimes you just throw shit back xD

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Hypo facts

lean nexus
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when mirael gets her ult daimon just dies

glad ridge
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Do you have any silencers

lean nexus
glad ridge
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If she can stop her ult then that could help

rigid stag
glad ridge
lean nexus
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estrilda gives them energy and disrupts backline mid

rigid stag
bright cloud
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iz this good?

glad ridge
rigid stag
glad ridge
# bright cloud iz this good?

If thoran gets eradicated and you can’t seem to pass through no matter what try and level up wu Kong to 100, after passed 100 he’s not that good though depending on your lineup.

bright cloud
glad ridge
glad ridge
lean nexus
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ferael also takes energy away from daimon

bright cloud
glad ridge
lean nexus
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it does

vocal rivet
bright cloud
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oh can u recommend a lineup for campaign @vocal rivet

glad ridge
bright cloud
vocal rivet
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Depends on your level difference 😅 he is okayish at around 140 lvl diff, but drops off really quick

lean nexus
vocal rivet
bright cloud
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Sad i dont have much units

vocal rivet
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Graveborns alone will get you to chap 31 in a few months

vocal rivet
glad ridge
lean nexus
glad ridge
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And yes it’s a whole mess

glad ridge
lean nexus
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brruuuuh

glad ridge
lean nexus
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they die

vocal rivet
lean nexus
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the cc kills bruuuuuuh

glad ridge
glad ridge
lean nexus
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to make you feel better i pulled two awakened today back to back

glad ridge
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Check after battle stats

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Oooh

rigid stag
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Any way I could Improve? rainbow team goo

lean nexus
rigid stag
bright cloud
vocal rivet
cloud nexusBOT
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Anakin's Group-Ascension 101
Here are some priority heroes you should ascend first if you can if you have 8/8 copies for them - You can use this to see the priority heroes that you should start out wishlisting: This is a GROUP-Priority list (Which means - not in a particular order, they have different priorities when one held against the other). Overall you want to focus on the first group of heroes (the priority), before moving on to the 2nd and 3rd group, etc.
For what is in parentheses, if you don't want that - like (Tower), a tower hero - Then skip.

Lightbearers (LB):

Rowan, Raine, Rosa, Scarlet, Estrilda | > | Morrow, Gwyn, Hendrik | > | Peggy, Cecilia | > | Lucius, Belinda, Fawkes, Eluard | > | Rest

Maulers:

Kren, Skriath, Tidus, Skreg, Numisu | > | Satrana (Purely CR) | > | Antandra (Late game/CR/Tower), Granit (High deficit with +30 to help Luc) | > | Brutus, Warek (For TR/CR), Safiya (Powercap/CR), Vurk | > | Rest

Wilders:

Raku, Mishka, Eironn, Lyca, Pippa | > | Gorvo, Saurus (CR), Tasi, Astar (PVP/CR) & Nemora | > | Lorsan | > | Rest

Graveborn (GB):

Daimon, Grezhul, Thoran, ferael, Silas, Oden | > | Hodgkin | > | Izold (Tower/TR/CR), Baden (CR/TR) & Torne (Purely CR), Desira (Temporal Rift) & Isabella (CR) | > | Kelthur | > | Theowynn & Treznor | > | Nara | > | Rest

There are heroes that you would like want 1 copy of early, like Cecilia, Lorsan, Brutus, Safiya, Baden, Tasi, Nara & Kelthur - add these early on, but only for one copy instead of 8.
I would not get stars on anyone (carries or for engravings) until you have aleast 8/8 copies of the priority heroes (The first group of heroes) - Max 2 spots on WL for stars, after priorities
I would keep scrolling GB until you have the priority ascended (The first group of heroes, the 6 GBs) - once you have 8/8 copies of the priority GBs, you can use the cards on wilders, but keep scrolling GB for fodder

vocal rivet
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First 5 heroes named should be on your wishlist for each faction

lean nexus
rigid stag
bright cloud
lean nexus
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daimon should carry you aslong as he kills one

lean nexus
lean nexus
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you can use heroes that lock down, buffs or debuffs enemies

vocal rivet
# bright cloud thank you(if it werent for u i might have dropped the game)

No worries xd just keep on progressing👌🏼 this game is all about afking and collecting enough ressources to progress further. E.g. it would take me at least 4 months (without paying) to beat a chapter just to collect enough ressources, build the correct heroes,… so just chill and take your time

vocal rivet
lean nexus
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do you run alts?

vocal rivet
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I would probably be able to reach 42-16/20 (at my current lvl 516 and my investment), but if I push in a month or two I’d definitely be able to get atleast to 30.

glad ridge
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Quick opinion, who should I ascend or save up for

vocal rivet
vocal rivet
lean nexus
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how many deficit?

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sheeesh

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is daimon still relevant?

rigid stag
lean nexus
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is tea 1 thoran cheese?

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all meta teams holee

vocal rivet
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Probably just need some heavy rng at that deficit. Is your luc e65? That helped me get through a lot of stages

glad ridge
glad ridge
vocal rivet
lean nexus
glad ridge
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Alright

lean nexus
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bro why is daimon like this

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i passed my main in like 10 days

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or less i dont know

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i spent a lot of time like 2 years ago aswell

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lmao

bright cloud
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is shermin good?

lean nexus
lean nexus
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daimon steals percentage of heroes helath and uses it as shield

bright cloud
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i wasted resources on her

lean nexus
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scales with the levels

bright cloud
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Yes

lean nexus
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wdym by dimensional fodder

bright cloud
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I upgraded her

glad ridge
rigid stag
vocal rivet
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I can still remember the good old times where shemira was the main carry up until chapter 24 and then belinda took over her carry spot ☺️

lean nexus
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so u build her for nemora boss and feed to a dimensional hero

rigid stag
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you dont feed you just link, you wont loose the character

vocal rivet
rigid stag
vocal rivet
rigid stag
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okay but

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then I am oneshotted 1-2 seconds faster if I change

lean nexus
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isabella just shreds daimon

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aezizh is what i wish to get but i get back to back awakened thane today on normal summons

royal stag
vocal rivet
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Yes swap lycas and ainz position and seap ainz for nara. This way nara hooks belinda and she won’t be able to shred you as fast

lean nexus
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thoughts on awakened heroes?

rigid stag
lean nexus
royal stag
lean nexus
rigid stag
royal stag
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I used 587 cards for 11 copies WAAAHsos

glad ridge
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Wtf…I need mental help

royal stag
rigid stag
lean nexus
royal stag
rigid stag
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I did a trillion different order

lean nexus
#

yessssssssss

rigid stag
lean nexus
#

finaly kren ascended 😛

glad ridge
lean nexus
glad ridge
lean nexus
#

i was on those chapters like in the first day when the server opened i just got lucky with pulling atalene and athane

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really carried the momentum in campaign

lean nexus
bright cloud
#

who should i replace with shemira?

lean nexus
#

whats the heroes?

bright cloud
lean nexus
#

daimon

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really good

bright cloud
#

I see

rigid stag
lean nexus
lean nexus
bright cloud
lean nexus
#

you just need to pull the correct heroes like atalene, athane, daimon, and various of situation heroes

glad ridge
lean nexus
glad ridge
#

Ah

lean nexus
#

latest 1 is 985

glad ridge
#

Also I just got a huge ascension upgrades

lean nexus
rigid stag
glad ridge
lean nexus
royal stag
lean nexus
# royal stag 🐳

honestly some people in my server spend more than me their already at chap 29 and hape their rc 243 which is crazy

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only spend on the diamond deals

rigid stag
#

oh

lean nexus
#

like the campaign ones

rigid stag
#

🐳

lean nexus
#

like bruuuh

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im nothing compared to this man lmmao

rigid stag
bright cloud
lean nexus
#

only thing you need now is luck

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what is the limit of lucretia invasion?

bright cloud
lean nexus
rigid stag
#

At this point you should probablychange channels

rigid stag
#

you

bright cloud
rigid stag
lean nexus
# rigid stag you

nah i really dont care lmao i just get pumped in campaign and stuff

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im fine with top 10

lean nexus
#

what does that mean lmao

bright cloud
lean nexus
#

i just want to go through chapters like a blitz to maximise the gap between the others and me

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so i get more afk resources

bright cloud
#

push more stages more sleep?

lean nexus
#

its kinda cringe they give you 20 faction scrolls for chapter 24 i expect more ngl

crimson shale
royal stag
#

And before chapter 38 u dont need Lucretia invade

glad ridge
#

Who should I ascend instead?

azure sphinx
#

Don't fodder elites
Don't ascend heroes if you don't have the copies for atleast L+

small wedge
#

what role comp do you want in a lineup?

pale kettle
#

Anything I could possibly do to have even the slightest rng chance of winning?

wheat wagon
wheat wagon
solar kite
#

What should I do with my lineup

cobalt moth
white patrol
#

Basically don’t do shemira at all unless u are going all in on her

coral pier
autumn dust
#

Do you think I can beat this?

white patrol
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If u have euros maybe

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Eirron

autumn dust
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I do but I’ve found pippa is way more effective

white patrol
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U don’t have si20 u are just sending grez to die

autumn dust
#

Gotcha ok that’s helpful

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Wait I do have si23 or so

white patrol
#

That’s si 10

autumn dust
white patrol
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You need si20 for 5 second immunity after teleport

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I’m talking about pippa

autumn dust
#

Oh oh gotcha

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Half the time she teleports the enemy

glad ridge
#

Any suggestions for this specific stage? (I’ve tried Silva, daimon, brutus, tasi, mira, shemira, skreg, oden, Silas, desira, rowan, isabel, in mixed ways)

opaque pumice
#

What can I do here?

gilded cobalt
#

29-60. Need to complete in the next 24 hrs for Misty Valley, merc has been used

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Also looking for advice on who to use the hero choice on

opaque pumice
gilded cobalt
#

Yep. Been trying the arrangements, haven’t gotten it to work

rigid stag
#

Any suggestions? (Dont talk about order)

opaque pumice
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Thank you.

coral pier
rigid stag
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No

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Dont countine

coral pier
rigid stag
opaque pumice
#

I used my merc already.

coral pier
rigid stag
harsh urchin
marble grove
#

Just got Nara and Baden and wanted to know if I should replace anyone, thoughts?

astral flare
marble grove
#

Alright thanks

pine flare
#

Any suggestions on this ?

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Mercs used already too .

old pecan
#

Need help on this stage

peak lantern
paper minnow
lean nexus
#

any fawkes counter?

paper minnow
lean nexus
paper minnow
# lean nexus luck base

Luck? Well kind yes "luck" but its not something that will take many retries. U just need ferael to terrify fawkes.

shy onyx
#

Someone passed 39-48 without Lucretia e60?

crimson shale
shy onyx
#

everyone has luc e60 and it kinda seems is impossible without it

crimson shale
shy onyx
crimson shale
shy onyx
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Yeah, I'm doing it rn

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Nvm, I passed the stage

crimson shale
#

Gratz

shy onyx
#

thx

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@crimson shale

supple jasper
#

who should I M first, thoran or grezhul?
theyd be my first m hero, could also go with raine which would m my ainz

still ivy
#

Any ideas to beat them?

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She’s just lower cause she’s 4 star not 5

winter torrent
#

what line up should i use

wheat shuttle
#

How to improve this comp:(

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Other than shift my joker haha, I've been messing with positioning

fiery wing
still ivy
fiery wing
still ivy
paper minnow
#

U made a mistake taking heroes to L when u cant even take them to L+. How many L heroes do u have?

#

For now i recommend reading the pinned beginner guides in #classic-questions. It will guide u to a path u can take and mistakes to avoid.

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Its hard to advice on a stage i cant see the enemies,positions,etc. And yes if u want u can consider using a merc.

pale kettle
proven river
proper glade
#

What are good defensive teams for the Arena? They should survive Ainz teams and not use Ainz themselves

proven river
#

when enemy got a higher level u prob need to use ainz yourself

pale kettle
#

what about this one

proven river
proven river
pale kettle
#

alr thanks

proper glade
versed quarry
#

Is there any moment where Rosaline is placed to follow Rowan? Or is Rosaline always paired up to the Carry?

proven river
#

mostly damage dealers cause she gives attack boost

versed quarry
proper glade
lean nexus
#

=furniture

cloud nexusBOT
#

(22nd Jan 2022 - removed Gwyneth, added Scarlet)

Bok's Guide for Beginner Furniture Wishlists (PVE).
Ainz Grezhul Lucretia Mishka should stay on, even if you don't have a single copy of them. Swap the rest around depending on your current ascensions (ask if you're unsure).
Faction tower furniture are of lower priority than campaign ones (notice the arrow before LB tower). You might not want to do some faction tower furniture in favour of other modes, depending on what you're interested in.
Use red cards (aka Mythic Order Forms) on Grezhul > Ainz/Skriath/Alna/Mishka > Lucretia.

Initial furniture wishlist for beginners
Ainz 9, Grezhul 9, Lucretia 9, Mishka 9, for the remaining 6 empty slots take your pick from below depending on which heroes are closest to being Ascended
Thoran 3 or 9 (notes), Daimon 3, Raku 3, Oden 9, Silas 3, Albedo 3, Scarlet 9, Ferael 9, Skriath 3, Kren 3, Leonardo da Vinci 3, Silas 9, Kren 9, Raine 3, Leonardo da Vinci 9, Prince of Persia 3, Arthur 3, Merlin 9, Nemora 9, Alna 9 (notes), Zolrath 3, Brutus 3, Estrilda 3 (Dark Nemora TR) > Morrow 3 (LB tower), Tidus 3 and Skreg 9 (Mauler tower), Eironn&Tasi 3 (Wilder tower), Desira 3 and Izold 9 (GB tower)

Notes
Thoran - 9 reduces retry RNG; I advocate going for early event 5* Call frags (after Rowan and 2 carries' +30s). If you're willing to put up with more retries, then stop at 3.
Alna - 9 deserves red cards but the problem is that she's usually the second celepog for beginners (Lucretia is usually first to be done). This means you'll only get her to Ascended after about 1 year of playing, hence her "low" priority.
If you eventually gain an interest in competitive AE (Top 100 ranks) and/or PVP, ask other people for recommendations. This guide does not focus on those.

lean nexus
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69m power

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pog

keen rain
#

honestly a very depressing box. do you have any red emblem chests? some heroes at their proper si might be able to help you, one for example is rowan's si at 30.

Also Ainz is pretty meh if you don't have Albedo garrisoned alongside him

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ill take it that you're a returning player

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which big guy, Ainz?

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Ok so first off. I'm not sure how you're going through multis, perhaps your other carry is Belinda, but i have no idea whatsoever on how strong/relevant she is as she died like year/s ago
Ainz wants Albedo in his team to perform well, preferably Albedo at SI30 alongside another dimensional hero, like King Arthur(the one you would get from labyrinth store, 15 shards in exchange for 60k coins which is what you should focus on getting.)

for your box, shemira and belinda is irrelevant but if you're running either as a carry for your 2nd team then you can continue using them as i see no other heroes to potentially become a carry for your second team.

I'm not sure exactly where to start so it would be better for you to ask questions lol. anyways reading the guides pinned in #classic-questions might give you the slightest idea of what's going on. afterwards just ask loads of questions that'll set you back on track.
reminders are you dont have to starchase heroes(aka just remove them from your wishlist once they get 8 copies or 10, for some)
you can run through the commands in #classic-questions for things like stargazing priority, coins allocation, furniture wishlist and etc. one that doesn't have a command is for si30 priorities. since Ainz is already at 29, you might as well 30 him. after him, it's best to do Rowan as his si30 is extremely useful in many cases. after Rowan, just ask again posting the screenshot of your heroes whenever, because as of now there's pretty much no other appropriate heroes until you fix em.

TLDR read guides, run through all commands, ask as much questions as possible, even if they're dumb ones which are fine

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i cant cover through everything since i have no slight idea on how in the fucking world people run carries other than the meta rn, so u might want to ask in #classic-questions to have more opinions

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borrowing one from the heroes' return thingy? yeah that might work. her si30 is helpful as she gives ainz 30% more attack rating. 45% if there's another dimensional hero in your team.

crisp sun
#

Y'all like?

bright cloud
#

How far this lineup can take me?

paper minnow
zealous hatch
#

Help. The damn thane keeps teleporting everywhere and killing everyone

harsh urchin
oblique nebula
#

what about charm 1st round? and do ainz for 2nd?
assuming ur luc can’t clear 2nd round

rigid stag
#

anything could work? or do I need to upgrade my stuff before having a chance

lean nexus
#

wanna add me so you can see what i did for that lmao @rigid stag

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i did that like 4 days ago

rigid stag
#

sure, a whale friend is always good

lean nexus
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added you

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i think i used eiron pull thoran and fereal

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if angelo disrupts change ferael to lyca

rigid stag
lean nexus
#

what are other herores that you have?

#

you can use talene as a tank instead of thoran

rigid stag
harsh urchin
harsh urchin
lean nexus
# rigid stag

replace gwyneth with atalene and put kalene back line

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you could also experiment with pippa or oden

rigid stag
#

im at -6 now

lean nexus
#

are u stuck at it

rigid stag
#

yep

harsh urchin
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@oblique nebula my luc can beat 2nd round

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and first round aswell

lean nexus
#

can u see formations used in those levels @rigid stag

rigid stag
#

I can

harsh urchin
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got it now

lean nexus
#

try using those if you have the available heroes

rigid stag
#

only avalible are just... with that power I could do it too

harsh urchin
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lol 7000k at chapter 22 thats a bit sad

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this is also a bit sad for ch 32

rigid stag
harsh urchin
#

still overkill

oblique nebula
# harsh urchin and first round aswell

nice then use her for 1st round, and just whatever for 2nd round.
Charm is Lyca, rowan, flex ( probably daimon or grez) , mehira, raku
Ainz or gb can work

harsh urchin
#

yep used her for first and ainz for 2nd

median badge
#

Daimon frontline or back line?

rigid stag
hallow solstice
#

Hey guys I’ve been doing good playing on my own but I could use some lineup help I’ve made it to chapter 28-44 and could use some advice

harsh urchin
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most of the time hes in the back

harsh urchin
hallow solstice
rigid stag
#

Legendary, Legendary+ (Yellow, and Yellow with these edges)

hallow solstice
harsh urchin
#

kinda hard to give you lineup help if we dont know what youre up against

hallow solstice
harsh urchin
#

i still dont know what youre up against?

rigid stag
harsh urchin
#

you should just send a screenshot of the stage youre stuck at

rigid stag
#

liek this

harsh urchin
#

and then ask for lineup help because its kinda hard to just give general advice

hallow solstice
#

Ok no problem thank you guys

harsh urchin
#

anyone have any clue for the 400 mark

gentle kayak
harsh urchin
gentle kayak
#

5 pull

harsh urchin
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dont think so

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what does it look like?

gentle kayak
#

Safiya
Lyca
Erionn
Chicken
Lucy

harsh urchin
rigid stag
#

chicken?

safe hazel
#

skriath

gentle kayak
harsh urchin
gentle kayak
#

Nothing isathumbsup

harsh urchin
#

great then youre all set

uneven moss
#

Hello, what’ the best way to complete this comp? Pvp

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Eironn / Skriath can work?

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Astar ?

harsh urchin
#

anyone help pls

gentle kayak
harsh urchin
#

yh

gentle kayak
#

Mayyyyyybe try

Daimon
Brutus
Mehira
Rowan
Raku
It probably won't work lycalurk

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Mehira with book artifact

harsh urchin
gentle kayak
#

Hmm I think you need lyca for this to work

harsh urchin
#

i got lyca

gentle kayak
#

But you used her smug_dolly

harsh urchin
#

nah i quit that run

gentle kayak
#

Oh okay swap lyca with Brutus

harsh urchin
gentle kayak
harsh urchin
#

raku basically insta dies

gentle kayak
#

Try barricade Daimon or raku with shroud?

harsh urchin
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then daimon does some good damage but cant outdmg the heal

gentle kayak
#

Raku needs to live its just rng

harsh urchin
#

nice got it now i put barricade and shroud on them and it worked

gentle kayak
#

Second battle is ez smuglucius

harsh urchin
gentle kayak
#

Lucy 5 pull floradeadeyes

harsh urchin
#

dont have lyca

gentle kayak
#

No need for her use Brutus or some shit

harsh urchin
#

alr

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u were right

#

alr until next time which is probably in 4 stages

gentle kayak
sterile elm
#

Guys

gentle kayak
sterile elm
#

Can I get some help to make my team

harsh urchin
supple mantle
# harsh urchin im backk

Make sure play lucr + eironn(middle back) + skraith on one (fill with something)

And like ainz albedo Arthur + ferael and oden or ldv or rowan

gentle kayak
harsh urchin
gentle kayak
#

Cool the for r1 use

Raku (shroud)
Rowan
Mehira
Lyca
Daimon

harsh urchin
#

ill do it over with brutus

gentle kayak
winter torrent
#

what 5 should i use

harsh urchin
#

7 seconds and its over

gentle kayak
#

errion ain't pulling?

harsh urchin
#

there is no eironn in there

gentle kayak
#

Wut you using

gentle kayak
#

Wait what are you talking about? R1 or r2?

harsh urchin
#

r1

gentle kayak
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Ok it's rng

harsh urchin
#

i already got r2 again with brutus

gentle kayak
#

What arti you using?

harsh urchin
gentle kayak
#

Book needs to be 3* probably 🥱

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Idk if it's doable without 3*

harsh urchin
gentle kayak
harsh urchin
#

oh so i need shroud stars too?

gentle kayak
#

If you can get shroud to 3* too do that as well for less rng

grand perchBOT
wheat wagon
#

What do i do here? +17 damon byw

harsh urchin
wheat wagon
harsh urchin
#

yeah why

wheat wagon
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Bcuz ppl told me to rush +20

harsh urchin
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so u dont have enough emblems?

wheat wagon
#

No

harsh urchin
wheat wagon
gentle kayak
twin ermine
#

Hey guys I need some help. Stuck on 29-60

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Ok whom don’t u recommend to murder ?

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I mean who do u recommend to murder 😅

rigid stag
twin ermine
rigid stag
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Get their HP to 0 before yours gets to 0

harsh urchin
twin ermine
harsh urchin
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because brutus wont be murdered

twin ermine
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Ok, now 200 tries and I’ll switch Rowan then

wheat wagon
shy onyx
twin ermine
#

Not wining 😅

gentle kayak
twin ermine
shy onyx
crimson shale
#

U got the same gear and artis?

shy onyx
#

yeah

harsh urchin
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Imma need some help with this because its not working

crimson shale
harsh urchin
crimson shale
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And ig good boots on rowan for dodge

harsh urchin
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Just resonance

wheat wagon
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These back 3 in conjuction are too op for me, naras pull does almost nothing against them, numisu spawning totems distracts my daimon, and nemora heals the whole team when they are close to dying

harsh urchin
crimson shale
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That should hold for rowan, raku prob just needs better gear tbh

harsh urchin
crimson shale
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I'd say T2 at least for raku

harsh urchin
crimson shale
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Shouldn't be, boots and weapon would suffice, could just be rng and making sure raku doesn't ult by doing manual

harsh urchin
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So raku shouldnt ult at all?

crimson shale
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Yes, most people do raku on manual because if he doesn't kill someone with the ult, it hurts his dps iirc

harsh urchin
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Ohh

crimson shale
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Also getting his 3f will be very beneficial for him

harsh urchin
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Actually nobody even gets a chance to ult

crimson shale
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Not even mehira with windbinder and rowan potion? Should be almost instant ult

harsh urchin
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Nope

crimson shale
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Send a replay

harsh urchin
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She dies when her bar is full

harsh urchin
crimson shale
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If everyone dies instantly, shouldn't be too big

harsh urchin
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I can put it on 2x or no speed if u want me to

crimson shale
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Ahh arden root. Could just be rng, could also try cheese if u get thoran 3f.

harsh urchin
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Dont have 3f on thoran sadly

crimson shale
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Maybe try it on 2x auto until mehira ults and then put it on manual. Good luck. Maybe raku needs t3 as well

harsh urchin
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Mehira ulted died and then 2 seconds later raku died

harsh urchin
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Guess i need help with this one now

vocal rivet
pale kettle
#

Look for a new good lineup just need one more daimon and i can get him to mythic plus

gentle kayak
gentle kayak
acoustic latch
#

I am gettin shredded but i feel like i can win. Any ideas?

harsh urchin
acoustic latch
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Oh yeah dont mind the current line up im usin, just testing evrery possible formation

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Nvm got it, i just threw in oden and fawkes

harsh urchin
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I cant really help u with the lineup but i can give u some general advice

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Dont ascend heroes to L if you cant bring them to L+

gentle kayak
harsh urchin
gentle kayak
#

I could push till ch37 but I don't have thoran +30 floradeadeyes

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I might need 5* call rakuhmm

crisp sun
#

Y'all like

glacial latch
#

Any suggestions for this? The second team is easy, and even my weaker teams (Raku+Mehira, Ainzedo) are working on that.

bright cloud
#

this good for campaign?(dont have much heroes)

slate ore
#

my heroes good?

opaque pumice
# slate ore

Go to the pins in #classic-questions. There are the good heros and some tips for starting the game. Your heros aren't bad but using these guides will help you get better a lot faster than if you were to continue what you are doing right now.

wicked tapir
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Hi , can someone help to put together a team to progress in campaign ? Im stuck at 13-6 and dont know where to go with my units , i've been following the beginner guide on progression and fodder , but putting together a team is harder n__n

opaque pumice
wicked tapir
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Thank you ! Im lvl 67 if that matter , i reset my RC before asking for help to be ready to assemble some teams 🙂 Ill look into that site

opaque pumice
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Ok. Probably don't reset you RC though. It takes too long to be able to put a new hero on there. Just put a hero on the RC and don't move them unless you absolutely need it which I doubt will ever happen and even then it still takes 24hrs.

wicked tapir
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well , i dont have the units that the website suggests haha

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everyone is using Daimon , Lyca or Saurus (or those fancy hypogeans lol)

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Daimon at Elite works ? i have the chest that lets me pick a hero

opaque pumice
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Yeah, that happens a lot. It shows what the best there is. Yes, get a Daimon and then just use the RC while you get him up. I will see if I can find names of heros and give you good ones to put together for teams.

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Oden, Daimon, Silas, Grezhul, Scarlet, Brutus, Tasi, Granit, Serius, Alna, Astar, and Nemora/Numisu. These are some of the heros that I saw that you should put on the RC. I would say get Oden, Daimon, Silas, Brutus, Scarlet, and Grezhul on there first if you can.

paper minnow
wicked tapir
#

now is time of trial and error i guess hahaha

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Thank you for your time guys ❤️

wicked tapir
#

I GOT IT !

opaque pumice
wicked tapir
supple jasper
#

Hey I feel like I'm at a much lower deficit than I should be rn (chapt 13), any team building advice?

bright cloud
#

So many good heroes

paper minnow
keen jetty
#

Should I reset anyone? Please help

coral pier
#

Just keep levelling wukong any time you can until he hits lvl 100 pretty much. The other heroes you have levelled right now are fine.

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Make sure you read the pinned guides in #classic-questions so you know what to do after lvl 100 @keen jetty

paper minnow
#

Suggestions on how i can alter this team? Estrilda and rosa survives at the end so tea cups fucks raku.

oblique nebula
#

Maybe grez or daimon with barricade instead of brutus? and put lyca frontline

paper minnow
#

Oopsie the tea cups just nuked the shit out of grez.

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And for some reason mehira takes longer to ult. I was hoping she'll ult before grez dies.

keen rain
#

i was ognna suggest doing rowan pos 2 then i remembered that the tea cups arent dodgeable

paper minnow
#

Yea thats the problem cuz maybe i can just rng estrilda with dodge but tea cups cant be dodged.

keen rain
zealous hatch
paper minnow
keen rain
#

💀 it fucing wokred

#

i learnt that from when i needed my luc to survive in hypto tower

#

freeze the fuckin maid

paper minnow
hushed sorrel
#

Any idea what’s wrong,

pale kettle
#

I just want to pass this one stage, oh my gosh I'm so frustrated unimpressedalna

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@oblique nebula sorry for the ping, but, any thoughts?

hushed sorrel
#

Swap ghrezul with daimon and remove Silas for Nara maybe?

pale kettle
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I'll try @hushed sorrel, my bottom left troops get one shot tho

hushed sorrel
#

That’s ok

pale kettle
#

@hushed sorrel this ascended guy in the front is causing all the trouble

hushed sorrel
#

Maybe chuck ghrezul in Lucas spot and chuck thoran ghrezuls spot

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Lyca^

empty topaz
#

hmmmm

oblique nebula
# pale kettle

grez is useless, mira isn’t needed when u use daimon
might do smth like daimon, thoran, nara, rowan, lyca

hushed sorrel
pale kettle
#

@oblique nebula I see, well, Idk, maybe it's impossible for me to pass it at the moment

grim copper
#

that's actually hard to beat

wet rain
#

Any tips on what I should do?

oblique nebula
pale kettle
#

@oblique nebula still no luck, I don't put out enough damage to kill any of the enemies

bright cloud
#

This good?

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ill replace eulard soon

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With a dmg dealer prolly

coral pier
# bright cloud This good?

Honestly not really. You keep ascending ascended tier heroes, you should focus on legendary tier ones until lvl 160. Also you don’t have a damage dealer.

chilly sentinel
#

I had no trouble getting through the last 15 stages but I just cant get past this any tips on what I can change?

gray ermine
#

Help my team gets destroyed while not being able to kill any enemy most of the time

pale kettle
vernal pond
undone folio
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How are my teams losing to this? Is it the level deficit????

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My engravings^^

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This is defense btw, I win every battle offensive

novel star
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Any ideas here? This comp is supposed to work as of 2 formations but I may be too high leveled for it to work, 5p/zaph are also available, any ideas?

winter torrent
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what 5 do i use im in chapter 6

cobalt moth
shy badge
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Should i use merc on this?

undone folio
pale kettle
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I’ve been stuck for a long time on my team, does anyone have any ideas for anyone I should build or where I should go from here? I’ve been thinking of building audrae but I’ve been told not to

hushed sorrel
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Any idea as to what to do, I w gone through a bunch of different forms but nothings working

paper minnow
lean nexus
lean nexus
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and angelo and estrilda can interupt your eiron pull so change it rowan insstead

pale kettle
lean nexus
pale kettle
lean nexus
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ill garrison him later

pale kettle
lean nexus
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he dies immediately

pale kettle
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Who does he go after

lean nexus
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the old man with shotgun

pale kettle
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Like he dies hella quick?

lean nexus
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ye

pale kettle
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He got bad gear prob

lean nexus
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180 vs 280

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no chance he survives

pale kettle
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Mines only 200 vs 310

lean nexus
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does he survive?

pale kettle
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Yea for a while until ainz uses his skill

lean nexus
pale kettle
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The guy wit the bow is the main prob?

lean nexus
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tasi and ferael

pale kettle
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U cant lvl up anyone?

lean nexus
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nah

pale kettle
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Send a ss of ur heros

lean nexus
pale kettle
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Hella elite+

lean nexus
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yes

indigo pond
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Who should I put on

bright cloud
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@lean nexus can u help me build a team?

lean nexus
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also i would advice you reading in to guides

lean nexus
lean nexus
lean nexus
pale kettle
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can we see your artis?

lean nexus
azure sphinx
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I never used Aezizh - does he disable the fera?
Also might swap around rowan and fera, depending on who can frontline better. Take call off of rowan (if he has it), if he doesn't survive long enough to ult anyways, so daimon gets more energy regen

pale kettle
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He does disable Fera, Id swap Fera and Rowan as well, Call on Rowan is better that annything at this stage because it gives him more haste -> he activates his passive faster and more frequently

azure sphinx
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you mean his immunity or his restock?

pale kettle
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immunity 🙂