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I did the same lol just makes it harder to progress early game
Only upgrade Ur 5 carry
which is?
Probably daimon, izold, Rowan, oden/eiron/shemira
1 per faction 2 for gb
usually
rowan kren/skriath raku:mishka, daimon and ferael/oden/grez
What?
Hard stuck here...tryed almost any combination...any tips? 😩
Brutus instead of grez and if u have nara then hook the isabella.
Don't have Nara, just put her on wl...not work with brutus :/
The thing is that isabella is gonna ult and kill everyone. Try ferael instead of Athane
Nahh...she still menage to proc and rip me :(
Try:
Oden/ferael
Daimon/brutus
Rowan
Brutus/daimon
Ferael/oden
Back line got sniped with other girl, meanwhile others cleans me up...tryed all combinations...looks like I will w8 here a bit 🤣
I just restarted and I would like to know what chars I should use
Try:
Ferael
Thoran
Lyca
Daimon
AezizH
You may want to look at the pinned Bok's beginner guide in #question. It covers the beginning stage.
Read the pinned guides in #classic-questions. It will guide u on what to do. Daimon and Rowan are really strong early.
Mehira instagib all my heroes with her ults
Disable her with Aezizh then use brutus instead of lyca. Put daimon back.
I tried that, the moment Lucius used his ult my team deals no damage and they all get killed.
I guess I should boost my Lyca so both her and fareal can kill Mehira asap. She is almost dead in the first comp you suggest
Yea maybe u just need good rng. Also are u not gonna use merc in this stage?
I used my Merc on a previous stage
I see just keep trying and good luck.
Is there a reason why Ainz isn't working?
id prolly do brutus rowan ferael nara(with call) daimon
Any suggestions?
rowan brutus daimon ferael(remove weap) oden/lyca
what does remove weap mean?
remove ferael's weapon. he terrorizes faster that way, apparently
the gear?
yup
Any idea for team ?
@wary pagoda
I can send u all my clears for that stage
I used Mehira in round 1 and im pretty sure she works at E/E+
@royal stag Idk
You can please
any help with passing this? im really stuck lol
She works a E 100%
@royal stag with who ?
Check pm
So stuck with this one. I'm copying a team from formations AND I tried looking on afk helper but no luck.
I'm new to the game i need a good lineup
Yo guys I got super lucky on my first account and am looking for help with where I should be going with this account
can anyone suggest me pls
Read pinned guides in #classic-questions
thank u
Please help
Can someone help me create a lineup to beat this floor
need some help, too much burst damage have no thoran
tried to manual it?
yeah raku mostly just dies and if he doesnt damage isnt high enough for 60 tries now
any tips on that stage?
any advice guys? Still struggling
already looked at it cant find a comp to use except high level
Sucks not having thoran 
exactly
I'm 99% sure that stage is just pure rng. You want rowan to survive atha and ult once iirc. You can also sub daimon out for 9/9 grez there I'm pretty sure.
I see thanks!
I'm pretty sure the formation you use was Hybrid's one? His wins cuz he has e30 daimon whilst when I had e0 I did smth different, although I can't remember exactly
oh wrong stage then
remember there was one similar to this one
I'd just cheese it then tbh if your thoran is A @eager lion
I don't remember this stage cuz I've never done it 
you own the account now? 
Nope 
how come you play on it then?
Pushing on it is fun 
Can someone help me with this lineup?
Plus he barely enters the account so I'm "taking care" of it 
🙌
Hm?
have no thoran, do I have any other option? still couldnt progress
what do u use for r2?
luc doesn’t work there? try different positions with
Lyca, skriath, luc, eironn, Safiya. Might need to sub brutus in with barricade if needed
or cheese it with 5-pull thoran
Been having a rough time this chapter any ideas
Fk wrong person 
Any suggestions?
idk when but I already won the stage. lol thanks tho
The problem with this stage is that I can't get any ults off
Lyca instead of raine?
I tried that and found that it works just about the same
Which in this case, not at all
I've also tried other comps like the Lucretia 5-pull and Raku Charm. The only comp that was able to successfully get their ults off was the Raku Charm
=t4
Anyone that can maybe help with countering a pvp ainz comp
hi, I'm currently running
mirael
thoran
rowan
mishka
ferael
and got talene, who should I replace for her?
The comp you suggested works! Thank you. Never thought of putting call to Nara, no wonder she keeps dying before she managed to pull the enemy.
any ideas?
Can I make my arena DEF better? I also have twins m si20
Check pm
Probably start with Replacing Lucius with Daimon or Fera
I’ve tried a bunch of comps from afkhelper but it seems impossible
Doesn't work with either
That stage is pretty famous for its difficulty. Did you check afk helper? Also a strong merc might solve it, you should easily have enough power to clear.
Can you show hero bag
Is my lvl cap too low?
im stuck on this stage, i run out of time when im lucky that silas doesnt die
cant boost mireal more lack of magic dust
U should be able to clear that especially with Daimon ascended. Try:
Ferael
Daimon
Rowan
Brutus
Oden
Try a few times u need fera to terrify tasi.
Remember to buy dust with gold in the store everyday.
I realized what’s the issue. Daimon’s attack is so much higher than the other units that tasi just counters it. I think I’ll have to wait a while to upgrade one of my other units more than Daimon
i cant really do much as of right now right?
im trying to squeeeeeese any ounce of stuff out right now to quicken progress
Ferael can help prevent tasi from banishing ur daimon. Fera needs to terrify tasi.
Does his slot matter or is it random who he targets? It looks like he never terrorizes her
Try to use thoran instead of golus. Try:
Mirael
Daimon
Rowan/silas
Thoran
Oden
ok ill try thanks
Iirc its random. I think he terrifies 3 enemies randomly. I usually use ferael to counter fawkes,tasi,estrilda,etc so i hope it works for you.
Thanks!
daimon just dies lol
Any advice what to focus on next please a bit lost
Lmao try switching positions.
💀
U can try and ask others opinions in #classic-questions.
Can i see ur box? Maybe there are heroes rhat might help u.
Its the nemora.
Ohhhh nice 
guess what im stuck on 9-20 now lol, i cant dish out enough dmg to kill 'transform into bat' hero
Well getting stuck is part of the process. Just lvl ur mirael above everyone else and hopefully she can carry.
pray that i can get 1 thousand magic dust tmmrw
theres another problem
theres a dude behind that goes around shooting arrows
today was a bad day only 20 stages done
need help please
Brutus, grez, Lyca, fera, raku
Hello guys im new to the game and im stuck on chapter 9-20
Can someone help me with my lineup?
Ty
Read pinned guides in #classic-questions
ok thanks
I can’t beat these two
Can I somehow stop fawkes immediately banishing my daimon? Or burst the skreg so daimon doesn't get knocked up once fawkes releases him?
I tried eironn 4th position, doesn't stop it
What position for nara?
in place of rowan, do you need the healing?
is your SI even high enough to give daimon good super energy?
Rowan is +20
And athalia works.. Now I just need good rng
Edit: passed it. Thanks
Any tips for this stage? My rowan is E
Have you tried Daimon backline? Both Rowan and Lyca can work frontline. You can experiment with switching around your units in different spots to see what works
would love some help on this stage, cant pass it
Please help im so lost
barricade on brutus and Grez instead of rowan
also switch oden pos with ferael
Atalene and Astar are good with Framton Morael and Daimon
I'd put MIshka in burst
the atalene and astar comp is that
framton morael group up with 3 others for dmg and shields
he and morael are cores
I'm still stuck on this stage
Ezizh is the boss
Maybe there's something that I'm not understanding with this comp. It's close to working but, something is off
Please help im hardstuck here
If you're using Albedo, I'd also suggest using Ainz because Albedo works best when paired with Ainz
Rosa follows mehira for faster ults
Tried that and it works the same. Close but still not hitting the mark
Does mehira have call/windbinder?
Windbreaker, yes. Even with that, it's not exactly working
Raku useless without his 30si
I see. That'll probably help then
I'm kinda stuck could I get some help please?
daimon brutus aezizh rowan ferael(remove weap)
or
brutus rowan ferael aezizh daimon
What’s a better formation on this one?
Try:
Aezizh
Daimon
Rowan
Brutus
Ainz
ideas? this formation was from afkhelper but even if i gave grez my gear, he wont survive to saveas's attacks(and grez&daimon survived in the run, somehow)
he gets 2 hitted normally, 3 hitted at this run because barricade prioritized him with le gear
edit:even if ferael fears saveas, it only delays grez's death by 2 seconds, because ferael nara and brutus will be deadge by then
raku and oden are free but with the mehira, my options are limited
Why not just swap grez and Brutus so Brutus can absorb the saveas
Alright. This is my team, hero box and the level I am on. Any help you can offer?
I wouldn’t merc a Lucius, merc someone stronger
I am out of requests this week.
can you make daimon mythic? if so taking him to 20si will allow you to easily clear this stage when you level him to 180 as well
No, not yet. The only thing I can ascend right now is Silas but that is using Daimon so I don't want to.
yeah defenitly dont want to do that you have belinda Ascneded so its best to just keep doing dailies and then use your on Hero choice pick on daimon till he is Ascended himself if you havent set your wishlist up to the beginner guide in the pinned messages in #classic-questions
I haven't. Just got on the server but Daimon is in there as well as the other heros that I main.
ah gotcha yeah in the pinned messages in #classic-questions there are guides that should help get the account back on track with loads of information i wouldnt worry about campaign at the moment till you can get daimon atleast Mythic but do go in there and ask all the questions you want after reading those pinned messages
Ok, cool. Thank you for your help. Have a great rest of your day or night.
ill more than likely see you over there i tend to hang out there the most but thank you, you as well
Im guessing warek is gonna throw grez
im trying it rn but since the formation worked i just let it run and assume that rng would make me win
is there anything I could do for this? ive been stuck here for like 20 minutes (;´༎ຶД༎ຶ`)
Have u read the pinned beginner guides in #classic-questions? Cuz u have a lot to fix. For now i recommend reading it. If u have anything u dont understand just ask.
Read pinned guides in #classic-questions also can u send ur hero box.
this is all the heroes I have, thank you (¯︶¯)
Try:
Astar
Daimon/thoran
Silas
Thoran/daimon
Aezizh
have been stuck on this lvl what shud I do
none of them do that much damage, my astar and daimon got insta-oneshot, should I try level them up more? thank you (⁎⁍̴̛ᴗ⁍̴̛⁎)
Okay so from now on dont make anymore L heroes cuz its gonna slow u down. Try
Daimon
Antandra
Sila
Lyca
Aezizh
Swap brutus and thoran also do u have nara? If so put her opposite of isabella also remove oden put daimon in his position
ty, but what is considered L hero?
Legendary. Those heroes that u have at gold border
What's good LCT comps for Astar?
Forgot to reply but it worked thanks!
o tyty
cant seem to find a formation to beat this
nvm solved it, i realized that daimon is garbage and not needed
Any ideas?
anything I can change so I can get past 6-16
Any clue on how to beat this?
Get wukong and lvl him to like 80-100 and its easy
But I have no gear for him
Take it of someone else
Just try without gear then
nope first dead
Any tips for this stage? My rowan is only E
rowan brutus daimon lyca/nara/aezizh ferael(remove gear)
not sure if it works but rowan should still be a dodge god as long as he has gear n level
Ty, I'll try it later. Can I ask why no gear on Ferael
apologies, mistyped it. it's remove weapon only. apparently removing weapon makes ferael fear faster
what's a random celestial team i can use for tower?
having trouble on the stage, mind helping?
Try:
Silas
Daimon
Aezizh
Brutus
(Anyone)
rowan brutus daimon lyca/aezizh ferael(remove weap)
or rowan brutus nara/aezizh rowan ferael(rem weap)
Hard stuck here...any ideas? :/
Try:
Ferael/oden/lyca
Brutus
Rowan
Talene/daimon
Daimon/ferael
Not work...got fcked up woth totems and they all just overhealed...not single kill :/
Hm that could mean ur not dealing enough dmg. U could just lvl up daimon some more and see if u win.
why wukong and not skriath for round 1?
Idk ill try
round 2,
Brutus, grez, Oden, fera, Silas/daimon
swap frontlines or Oden position so he teleports eironn
if ur thoran ults before he dies, then u can turn auto off until his death then on, so enemies use ult on him for more dmg
not working
best early game team? im losing to some kid 30 levels behind but still killin me
I could use some help again
lyca for athalia, and perhaps switch brut and row
I'm pretty sure I tried that exact lineup before, but I'll try again
Is Fawkes coffining your Daimon? If that's the case, you need Athalia in front of him or Nara or A Ezizh
cant help it, it's high rng and thats the only way to delay the mf's coffin
No my fera has higher attack than daimon
And using @keen rain 's lineup: rowan folds instantly and then raine collapses on daimon before he can ult most of the time
@pale kettle have u tried this?
removed aezizh for Nara and added lyca
it worked
don't forget you have the resonating crystal
What does that do i have seen it before
If I place my champs in those slots what will happen?
They turn into level 83s
it'll give them the 5 high heros level basically (click on the icon to further understand) and what stage are you stuck on?
8-18 but last time I had champs in the slots my champs got low level
mind taking a screenshot of the stage?
thats not what i meant-
Click "begin" then take a ss of that
Any idea?
replace ankhira (spider lady) for shemira
@unique rootCan I suggest you to move that picture to #classic-questions - ask those people what is best to do with levels
Okay Sorry
No, not like that buddy!
Ideally you level 5 heroes @unique root - the rest you place on this thing called 'Resonating Crystal'. It's a structure under 'Ranhorn'. In #classic-questions, they can help you set that up. You'll have a way easier time
This is my list. I'm a bit further ahead, but I leveled the first 5. The rest gets the same (or nearly the same) level. It's very nice to have.
So the first 5 level them up to the same level and then the other champs will get the same level ?
I'll move it to #classic-questions
Hello, I'm stucked on 39-56 cause I can't make the thoran cheese worked on the second fight, Have you got other comp than this one ?
Lemme check
Is it a cheese on the second fight?
This is 39-56 r2
Nice
Hello! Im playing with:
Pop
Talene
Daimon
Thoran
Zeizh
Im on ch15 and i feel like talene and zeizh are falling off really hard. Any new lineup that you would recommend?
Another question, would you reset pop to make Daimon the lv 160 character? Thank you in advance
Bro
Just how this is the trail guild trails on lvl 671
early game lineup?
need advice just cant get past this
read the guides in the question channel, there is everything u need thats why we dont answer these questions often
need help for stage 12-7
=t4
Please help thoran cheese isnt working
Help 
does albedo die fast or ainz doesn’t get time to ult?
Can anyone help me here please 
can daimon survive frontline position 2?
id do something like
daimon ferael
oden silas(to lure the mf silvina) nara
or swap oden n silas
Hi! I'm desperately trying to beat 38-12, and I can't get Thoran cheese to work. I only just put it together and I'm not familiar with the nuances.
Might need 5* call, it will help give thoran energy when the others die. But you can also try gearing thoran with a elite (not elite+) 4* chestplate, and a mythic t1 5* helmet. The gear should be graveborn.
Thank you! I'll try that while I wait for the fragments for call!
tysm I got it
I need help
Try:
Solis/silas
Skreg/hogan
Aezizh
Hogan/skreg
Morrow
Will that get me past 13 or will I have to change a lot
Just position ur aezizh opposit of what enemy u find annoying.
Help
Suggestions?
grez/any tank rowan oden ferael daimon
not sure if it works
hopefully oden uses his bucket head to figure out how to portal eironn
actually use raku instead of daimon/ferael
or sth like grez brutus ferael rowan raku
It worked using oden thx.
Any tips for this stage? This is POT the contorted realm
swap luc and aezizh
or use luc+random lv1 heroes(restart if it seems that youre losing)
or merc ainz
use Athane
👍🏻
Ty ty
Any suggestions?
They perma stun my daimon. Cant do shit.. any suggestions?
I do have nara and I tried your lineup.
It's unbelievably close, but I'm not sure how nara is contributing. She dies pretty fast
Just makes it easier to grab out Isabella for your DDs
If no one can reach her and she ults, its game over
She dies before she can grab isabella though
Oh. That's bad. You can try swapping positions of everyone but Nara to see if you can keep her alive
I just swapped nara for lyca and did it first try lol
Can't wait to hit the next wall :)
Now try this puzzle pls :D
Xd
I'll try, but I'm not very hopeful
@ivory karma Do you have slots left on resonating crystal?
Brutus > Thoran, and Oden > Silas in my opinion
So that'd be:
Daimon
Rowan/Thoran
Ezizh
Brutus
Oden
No Pop? :0
You can switch PoP with Oden if it doesn't pay off
Let me recheck the setup rq
It's wrong, sorry
It is:
Rowan
Daimon
Ezizh
Brutus
Oden/Pop
Haha, good stuff!
I feel like you enabled daimon by putting him in the front line. Brutus and pop didnt do much
You cancel out Angelo's chances to cc Daimon with Ezizh. Rowan allows Daimon to sustain initial damage, and Oden reduces it by removing Hogan and throwing him to Brutus.
What team should i use
I would try using Kren and Silas. Kren is very close to getting Legendary (just one Golus food missing) and is a decent carry. Daimon would be better but you don't have the copies. Silas is an amazing healer that also gives immunity.
The team would be something like Daimon, Kren, Raku, Rowan, Silas. (Kren with the highest possible level)
Which team should I use?
This was my old roster I was stuck in chapter 13 with, it was bad as I was focusing on other characters more,
I improved my roster and I almost am going to beat chapter 19, let's see what I get with 20 faction scrolls
Here is my current one
40-40 suggestions?
Haven't cleared 40-40 yet myself but looking at the formations used for the stage, Zolrath + Lucretia is the solution for the Flora. Alna Grez and Ainz for team 1 & 2 (alternative Raku instead of Ainz using Leonardo or Mehira), 5-Pull for 4 and Thoran cheese for 5
Is this a fairly decent team comp at this point in the game? I know Diamon isn't supposed to be up front but I don't have many choices in that regard.
Is replace desira for lyca and Rosaline for Nara
Get daimon +20 asap and your first +30 should be rowan don’t make the mistake of taking daimon to +30 first
https://afkhelper.nax.is/campaign.php?chapter=40&stage=40
See what's suitable for you 🙂
I tried the site and this didn't work 
its not a one try and done type thing you know this retry it loads of times if its close keep at it i cant help much more than that i have work soon
I mean this comp, I've already tried it for a bit but my guys have trouble surviving xd
Thanks a lot for taking time for me
I'll keep trying
no sweat defenitly keep trying with that comp complaining helps ive found i spent 8 hours on a thoran cheese complained to my guild then beat it in the next 10 mins
After all i can try a lot 
Yeah that's the same thing that happened to me on stage 54 xd, thanks again 
Pls help my thoran cheese doesnt work
hello
wich lineup i should use here?
why the fk i cant send a screenshot here
says it is explicit content
@oblique gale
Try to cut your picture, sometimes discord is buggy
keeps saying its explicit content
arf F. And if you try to add a filter on it?

Sometimes discord thinks the background of the heroes screen is human skin. Try to edit it and color in the background
Ok
There u go
ok so, wich teams i should do?
and what char i should upgrade next
i just finished 37 ch
Best 2 team's for chapter 31?
gb/gb+raku(get his si to 3 and luc(get her si to 30) 5p(skriath 3f required, orherwise just do luc+random units)
could also do raku charm, raku+ldv etc
My first team is the standard tas/eiron/lyca/ferael and rowan.
im not sure what kind of team that is but i reckon that it's eironn carry wilder team meta from months/years ago
not sure if it would work but if it does, then your 2nd team would be lucretia, she's more than capable at A, just need si30
if either of the teams arent working just replace one of em with raku+such. your box is good enough to beat 2 team multis easily
This formation is my go to
Any usable comps I could throw together with this for mauler tower ?
Skraith Kren numis skreg brutus
ty
may need to use tidus some stages, aand may need safiya some stages, but that should work overal
Any team I could use for 17-17 and up ? My RNGs been kinda bad 🫤
if I do it I will be able to beat the levels ? or something's else wrong in my comp?
Try:
Daimon
Brutus
Aezizh
Rowan
Ainz
U have ainz at +30 so he ahould destroy the enemy if he's able to ult (assumption)
I'm stuck at 5-28 help me pls
Reset wukong, level daimon with those levels
Any position changes?
it's fine now. just backline daimon if he seems to die too quickly
who's being a pain
Big tanky boi
Assasin and archer
Sometimes my mireal make them all one shot then the horse girl heal them all :/
Broo how did it work istg I tried this lineup b4 but I still failed
Suddenly I ask here i win wtf
Anyone?
it's called the legendary 'complain strat'
you complain here, you suddenly win
daimon rowan nara oden ferael/le chonccy boi
oden should portal eironn, if he doesnt then let me know
Gonna do it again soon
Worked out like this if you are interested, ty
I got it with this:
Ferael
Daimon
Raku
Rowan
Brutus
Though raku needs to dodge the eirron dmg.
nice
Thanks, i'll give it a shot!
Though u can try slotting oden if he teleports eirron. But in my experience he portals the mehira instead.
Are your heroes significantly higher in level?
My heroes are lvl 254
Actually i was using grez instead of daimon but i figured itd still work with daimon. It took me a lot of retries so good luck.
Daimon gets 2shot xD
Have u tried it with oden? Who does he portal?
Ezizh
I see. In my case grez was the one who survived last and he solo-ed mehira. Have u tried the lineup @keen rain suggested?
backline silas mirael and oden 3,4,5
Oden targets Ezizh sadly
Yeah. Think It's Grez being pretty strong here maybe
and if you switch daimon and rowan?
Some story, also having raku frontline instead of Rowan
use this but nara instead of fera, daimon prolly wouldnt die quick
otherwise i have no idea, use a merc
In this way the tp works
Just put Daimon behind Brutus. I'll try that a couple times
Try:
Daimon
Grez
Rowan
Brutus
Oden
Do u have brutus?
I'm stuck at 6-8, what should i do?
Got it 😄
Read pinned beginner guides in #classic-questions. Try:
Mishka
Daimon
Silas
Torne
Oden
Ty
Nope
Hm brutus is usually used to counter saveas. But u can try:
Mirael
Thoran
Rowan
Daimon
Arden/oden
Who does oden teleport to who?
Rowan is ass
Thoran useless
The problem is the top right enemy he 2 shot an everyone lol
hardstuck on this stage, please help
Okay then try switching grez and brutus positions and other heroes too if it doesnt work.
Well rowan is there for the heal. Thoran has a revive so i figured he could atleast tank the saveas a little bit. Does saveas 2 shot rowan too?
Put rowan middle back and swap atalene and mishka pos.
still get destroyed
Have brutus? Put him instead of mishka. If u dont have him u can try thoran. Remove mirael and replace with daimon.
Hm try:
Silas
Daimon
Rowan
Thoran
Arden/oden
tried it, i get to the end and mirael destroys them
Try it a few more times maybe u just need good rng or lvl ur shemira cuz i assume shes ur carry. Also my apologies im terrible at helping.
I got good rng and managed to beat 11-19 but for 11-20 enemy no one died lol
I think I have hit a roadblock so ima wait for more magic dust and boost niru and arden
Lvl ur daimon to 160 then ur gonna clear ch11 
Oh didnt realized rhat lmao
Though at that chapter mirael is the one that was carrying me cuz she 2 shots the enemy with her ult togethere with daimon.
Or I lucky get from gacha
talene’s a hard carry, and its alg your advice is very helpful
Same for me but she die too early
i thank you for helping me
if you plan to speedrun to ch xx for some other game reward and dont plan to play afterwards, then better to garrison pop. pop+daimon should be able to push a bit
Ohhh i dont think shemira would be helpful to u. U can try using units with cc like arden.
uhm
My garrison unlocked but I got not enough dimensional stones I can only exchange max 30+
Can i see ur box?
this?
ohh, too bad.
dont do it then
Im not quite sure what haelus do buf have u tried using him?
never tried using him
just used haelus and won
tysm @paper minnow
OMG nice! 
What do i do if fodder doesn't work out for me?
Like they suck when ur using them?
Yes
Then use ur other heroes. But dont lvl them they will be sitting in ur resonating crystal.
I can level them and then reset and level my fodder
So I want your guys opinion I I'm using a team which is not bad and I still can continue with it throughout chapter 26 and 25 but I want to try sum new Im going to show you my box and tell me what characters to choose but please if you could can you add pop at all costs
I'm stuck, Golus just two shots any character
And also this guy is dealing enormous amount of damage
I have no resources
Like hero exp
Stuck at 32
Stuck at 32-56
belinda keeps criting and oneshotting my daimon
edit: just beat it lol
would nara be better instead of brutus, a backline that denies the enemy backline for a few seconds
that stage i used thoran brutus rosa nara daimon
would it work even if they'd all be lvl 180 aside from daimon
i think i got a rosa copy
could someone help me with my pvp lineup? Esp in defense something seems to lack but I cant figure out a decent 3rd team
thats my hero pool
Arthur, Albedo, Ainz, LdV, Merlin
Grezhul, Alna, Ferael, Silas, Athalia
Haelus, Lucretia, Twins, Rowan, Ezizh
Stuck at 32-16, whats the best team I can make?
Stuck here, ankhira is destroying everyone
can someone help me? arden is slapping every time he does his ultimate.
I've got a bunch of new characters, what's the best team out of them?
Help, dm me for all my heroes available
Just got back into the game after not playing for a bit, any team suggestions? Dm me!!
Currently facing this stage, to win this stage it seems that Rowan needs to dodge 3/4 times consecutively at the beginning in order to survive and etc. How many hours of RNG can I expect?
I want to reset and replace Oden so i can ascend my Daimon, who can i replace Oden with?
are you talking about foddering Oden? because that's bananas. Never fodder Oden.
General question on setup. If you run the four: Albedo/Ainz/Rowan/Rosa, what's the best placement for them (e.g. Rosa in front of Ainz or Albedo; Albedo on the opposite side)?
And does this change when you remove Rowan from the equation, since the mid slot becomes available for Ainz?
I feel like I shouldn’t be loosing these, any recommendations on which heroes should be which level? And who I should as my carry?
albedo
mishka
rosa
rowan
ainz
or
ainz
mishka
rowan
albedo
rosa
Yeah I see. So Rosa never frontline
Read pinned beginner guides in #classic-questions. Also at that chaptar an overleveled mirael is usually the carry.
Suggestions? Or is this even possible with what i currently have 
welcome to hell
Im totally not enjoying my stay in this pit.
My raku team is almost not struggling but this gb ish team is uhh hard to pull off.
I just beat that one
Ohhh what did u use?
Fera
Daimon
Rowan
Brutus
Raku
Unfortunately raku is in the second team. Any substitutes? Maybe grez
try using my run, no grez unfortunately and it's rng
Raku dodges eironn pull and dealt 18m on my end. Dont think you would want to skip him
Yea i tried it but daimon dmg is not enough before he dies. Ill try it again though and put even better gears for him.
How about the 2nd team? My carry would be?
They're weaker. You still have grez
I use ainz/Albedo for second comp now. Then again, I have had more fodder I'm guessing. Got my double ascended comp nearly complete
Oh yea i also have scarlet maybe they can pull it off. Im gonna try it. Tyvm
Definitely, your ezizh should keep her alive enough. Good luck!
I'm not sure how close you are to ascending him btw, but my Oden is working miracles in these chapters also. Lv264, now at 31-20 and still going cause of it
I can get oden A after maybe likw 25 ish days.
That's a decent wait😅
Worth it though, have him at si20 f5 e30ish and he's destroying fights that Daimon can't handle
@craggy river I'm not on 11-20 yet, but I just realized, what heroes do you have to work with? Because my alt pushes mainly with an Aw!Thane that it got 
I don't have those heroes, but I might be able to work out something once (if) my alt gets there
11-14 right now. My average level is also much lower. Started on 11-4 so pretty good progress 😅
did you literally just start today?
I finally did it OMG but i used this:
Nice work! As long as you get it done😄
Try some variations of Arden+Oden on the backline
I've found that the combination of their CC is quite strong as I'm moving up towards 11-20 (stuck on 11-17 right now)
Tower is driving me nuts. Been throwing tries for a week or two, ideas?
Arden useless oden useless 
Not true because that's how I moved from 11-4 to 11-17 with heroes at lv 101 still xD
What ze fuk
Alright on 11-20 now, lemme do a few battles and see what the enemy is like
Godamm can give lineup
Unfortunately my core is an Aw!Thane =/
But I'll try to clear it without him and see how the enemies behave so I can give you some pointers
Id put mirael middle back so her ult hits everyone.
also, if you're really pushing hard, may want to move the artifacts that you have around a bit
Oof yeah, my team is melting without Thane xD
The middle axe guys shreds my team
If I put mireal back she dies to the axe throwing guy
Oh that's why.... Thane's special effect is giving my team a shield from the start of the battle, so they have a little more time to spin up
Well that's a hint, somehow you gotta delay the enemy ramp up because damn if they don't ramp up fast xD
5th spot is definitely the spot to put your carry in it looks like
Interesting I think there's a slight glimmer of potential with this:
Golus, Arden, Oden, Nara, Daimon
Try it with your heroes a few times and see if you can see how to tweak that and make it work better
My Arden surprisingly survives for a little bit on the frontline in position 2, and Nara neutralizes Khasos for a little while
Daimon nearly gets to ult, but my heroes for a similar line are weaker than yours, so it might do well for you
Update I got my daimon to L+
get him to M asap
Do I sack my niru
Get him to M +20 then you'll surf to ch20
It's my only fodder graveborn at lvl 120 legemd
Great! With my super shitty version of that comp, I was actually able to get Daimon to ult, so I'm interested to see if you have better success.
My version:
L+ Vedan 117 (no Golus...), L+ Arden 121, E Oden 101, E Nara 101, E Daimon 101
I need another elite niru to bring daimon to M
My daimon ults when there's like only 2 of my team left lmao
replace Vedan with your Golus in that lineup and give it a few tries
I got 9 emblem choice chests do I use all on graveborns?
he needs to carry hard 
What, the red chests? No, just keep them as chests. If you try to use them, they'll get consumed directly for whatever faction needs them
Who's vedan💩
Vampira bat dude.
Ima sleep on campaign and go play afk arena candy crush saga to get faction scrolls, today is graveborn so yeah
Bro not leveled
Use a substitute
but... I just said that you should replace him with Golus when you try it
Time to use my last braincells swiping fruits
I'm just telling you what I'm using becasue my account is different...
My braincells depleted I'm not reading stuff my bad
I mean
if you want, I can make a clear for you with Aw!Thane, but that won't help you at all xD
What's the slots to put em in
literally in that order that I wrote them
Ok
and give it a few cycles, I'm hoping since your heroes are stronger, Daimon will get to ult a little earlier
but the comp probably still needs to be tweaked for your heroes before it'll pass for you
That didn't work
Lmao👍
Nvm I used my own team and I won lol
Mireal tank op💩 💩 💩 💩
Best tank mirael

hopefully I helped a bit 
Yezzir
This game favors alternative tanks a surprising amount, so don't be afraid to stick some weird heroes on the frontline just to try
And I died on 11-21 :/
Lemme change lineup lol
Nvm fail ima play candy crush saga in afk arena then
Rowan in middle back
grez/brutus rowan nara/ferael oden daimon
tell me if oden isnt portaling the wind boy
that's some weird grez
I moved Rowan into middle and that worked, I have no idea how I didn't figure that out but tysm guys
try to rush his si20
Is there a better cheese comp I can use?
Thoran cheese comps will vary around different stages. And also, your Grezhul is super depressing without furniture.
Stuck again lemao
I can't get anymore items to increase daimon si
Wow finally I won
complain strat
@craggy river just move daimon to back row if U lose
Still lost
Getting daimon to mythic vs elite + got like no difference bruh
Get his si to 20
I'm stuck on 12-4🥲
I can't get the items to upgrade it
Put another tank in front row instead of nara or something
swap thoran and mirael
I need help
Try:
Daimon
Brutus
Rowan
Grez
Ferael
thanks :D
any ideas? other cheese formations are similar but i cant get thoran to get enough energy
he dies at like 200-300 energy, sometimes 400
this formation worked for someone else but i dont think si30 thoran would make a difference whether it would make thoran ult or no
i theorize that lyca would make this work but she's in another formation and i want to try not to use her
Maybe Rosaline for energy boost, lyca
nvm, figured it out, used the wrong fucking artifact on eironn
can anyone explain how call->shroud on eironn change things a lot? i needed call so he pulls before dying, the 15% reduced energy gain or some shit wont impact that much energy would it
U need nara to counter isabella. Do u have her?
With rng oden might help if he's able to ult on isabella to suck her energy.
i literally beat this in like 5 tries earlier, how tf is it not working now
already been 1 hour, what the actual fuck
rng 
Suggestions? Sometimes raku is able to kill 3 or 4 of the enemies but the last one just 1v1 him usually thoran and nara.
I would love to beat ch25 today if anyone would be so kind and devote some time to helping a dumdum like me. even posted the wrong pic before lmao
rowan brutus nara daimon ferael
everyone keeps telling me to use nara but she just doesn't perform for me whenever I try her :(
the purpose of nara in this round is to delay enemy ferael's fear otherwise it would mess with your team
could also use aezizh or any canceller
this is
rowan
brutus
nara
daimon
fera
right?
12345
front rowan and brutus
back nara daimon ferael
can someone help me? such a pain 2 hours of auto
frontlining pop in top/bot is nice since he can dodge and pop everyone
grez just somehow cant pop off and dies almost immediately every round, or at least dies a little longer but ends up doing 0 stuff
not sure if it's ezizh's explosion or thane's circle thingy but my team gets wiped out
if raku manages to survive, he wont survive a gang bang
@keen rain swapped fera and rowan, because that way both survive longer and I beat it :) thanks
i can also garrison if i need
Replace thoran
alr
nah he dies right away
so fuse with rowan instead?
none of this is working
this is what i have and what did 3 times
it’s instant death each time
@brave wagon
try
PoP
>brutus
rowan
>daimon
nara
alr
make sure you put your best agi gear on PoP
:))))
unlock PoP SI as well, that's crucial @dawn anvil
apart from wasted fodder your account doesn't look too bad tbh, just look at this guide if you haven't
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/609275505526439974/986315893590073434/Guide-211.png
u think this would work for the next couple levels
if you get daimon to level 200 that should work until ch 22
hello. should i save my gems or should i use them to get hero copies?
if this is your first time, then go in on summons saving diamonds really doesnt do much(unless ur doing meme strats like lucy cheese)
someone told me that i should save gems for stargazing
i wanna invest in the late game so I'm asking what's best
thats a meme strat cuz its all up to luck
unless you saved up 400k diamonds which then its a garunteed mythic lucretia
so i just 10 draws only than saving gems?
stargazing costs 5k per 10 summon
oof
a garunteed hero is every 65 draws and you need 8 copies of a hero for mythic
guides good, should work until chapter 31
mb you need 260k diamonds for gazing
how much u got rn
this is my team now haha
not bad, daimon carries until 24 if you invest into him
i played before till chapter idk like 20? I don't know fodders before so i quit cause it's hard
usually its fodder heroes until chapter 12 cuz mireal is really good
i had a hard time before but i miss how this game works so i came back now
only till ch 24? who's the best late game carry?
til 31
thats assuming u engrave him and get furn
3 furns is easy and who tf engraves daimon
my 203 daimon took me there
explain this on fortnite term
my daimon dies too qucik
basically with si20 and 3f daimon u could potentially push til multis(ch31) with daimon carry. u just have to have units that supports daimon well, not place random units with daimon and blame how daimon is trash
uhm si20? 3f daimon? I think i never reached that before...
dont worry youll eventually get those. just focus with your E daimon for now, level him give him gears
and eventually get more copies of him and get supports for him
who's the best support for him?
im using brutus rowan thoran and fereal and he's just not cutting it
I'm a f2p only, soldiers
practically everyone here is either f2p or reformed whale
earlier on any shit would do
sth like arden brutus hogan silas could work
Later on usually
rowan ferael oden lyca brutus thoran etc
also by supports, i mean daimon's lackeys who die in 5s to make daimon live 5s longer, which includes supports and tanks
I need a bit of assistance here
I'm starting to replace my fodder for A tier heroes - would it be better to use thoran or oden? (I know i don't have a L+ fodder for grave yet, i can make one with cards) Final 5 - Daemon-fawkes-tasi-numisu-thoran/oden ?
Ok thanks, do I just wait for better heroes before letting them eat the fodder? I guess my crystal hero's will just have to stay 160 for now then
Any way this is winnable without a thoran😌
Nvm, Raku op
Who should be my main 5 for early?
You mean to level or to put on resonating crystal?
To level up with daimon
For leveling, follow this guide. For crystal, you can put on Daimon (he'll be your one and only hypercarry), Wukong (just for now) and Lyca (you'll need her for long).
Believe in #classic-questions, if you check pinned, there should be a text doc on who exactly to level how.
Hard stuck on this level 😒 been trying over and over with this team and it’s been working slightly but that ferael omg . And once again , my RNGs been dirt no cap
And suggestions ? Or do I just wait it out for another mythic ? Try to get my heroes all at 180
Shemira can't frontline. A Ezizh or Rowan can. Make some swaps, try again.
Thank you bro omggg
L+ is literally level capped at 160. You HAVE to have five Mythics or above to get your top 5 above that.
np!
I really don't know how to deal with fawkes stages at this point. Nara stops his "start of the battle" coffin, but he still uses another one later
try
daimon
>brutus
ferael
>rowan
lyca
perhaps swapping daimon/ferael positions as well
sometimes fawkes' coffin at the beginning is being interrupted. is it because of the fera fear?
Maybe
Brutus eironn
Daimon rowan ferael
+30 eironn helps though not sure
lol ok then 😂
only 4 copies :(
Swap scroll shem
nah I'm saving the scroll
That stage is rough as you sont have anyone to bait coffin
Don't use your scroll
Id: 80220572
Just merc mine if you get desperate
He def aimt beating that stage unless godlike rng
eiron dies before he can pull
I merc a 5* engraved luc every week and I used my chances already, but tomorrow is reset day :)
Like you need daimon to resist coffin 2 times and his daimon ain't engraved
I mean I've tried stages more than 500 times in the good old days
Max was 300
I've been there too trust me
With some tasi ns
40-18 is a bitch, I hate thoran
bad or good @azure sphinx ?
Nah nah nah 28-34 is
I'm pretty sure I beat such stages using Oden, just to displace Ogi
Thoran I eat for breakfast
about the same performance I had with my original lineup I'd say. I'm still trying though
I mean using thoran, not fighting him
Estrilda is the real bitch
Flora stages are by far the worst, trust me
Ah yes my thoran never ults at the right time
I'd avoid using nara to displace fawkes/tasi from my experience
I'm one E+ fodder away from M oden
rng'ing ferael spirits works much better since it gives you an extra unit to work with
Or use eirron to pull fawkes
Still give it a shot, I'd say
Moving Ogi away so Daimon can run it down the backline might do the trick
doesn't work. he dies before he pulls
Help?
unless I backline him...maybe
Yeah eironn needs a lot of retries too painful
Any help on this one?
You need backline eirron
eironn pull doesn't stop the initial coffin now I'm sad
Eirron instead of pippa
Yeah wait for merc ig
it's probably for the best
Yea nevermind
stuck
is there a way to make fawkes coffin someone else but daimon? Idk how he chooses his target
Highest combat rating iirc
oh then there's no way
tho for some reason when i put lyca instead of athalia he used his coffin on thoran
i’m stuck on 19-40
is daimon ur main dmg dealer
yea
did u try putting him in the backline
and have brutus tank for him
try
oden
prince
rowan
brutus
daimon
i assume silvina goes for rowan anyway
alr
if prince doesn't work for you then just use thoran for meat tanking
It worked!!!!
oh awesome
thanks sm!
no worries, glad i could help
hey yall this might be too broad of a question but I'm pretty new and was wondering if yall could help me sort out a decent team. Got five people 100 but I wanna make sure I'm running the best of what I got.
@fierce grailDo you know about the optimal leveling technique
If not, go to #pinned in #classic-questions first.
Ahh I see sorry
Haha no need to apologize. Ask whatever once you read that through 😄
Feel free to tag me
This one's tough
I think I’m gonna use merc when the new week comes
Nara
Daimon/Brutus
Ezizh
Rowan
Daimon/Oden
Will try, thank you!
Let me know if Daimon dies too fast
They all dying too fast
I'm not sure how much cc needs to be countered
You could try:
Nara/Ezizh
Brutus
Rowan/Daimon
Daimon/Rowan
Oden
I did it!
Nice, what was the trick 😄
I can’t access the recording but the formation looks like this
I changed the position of ezich and Nara because Nara can’t stop daimon from being coffened
Yeah, she would grab him, and he summons the coffin
Haha no worries. Do you use afk helper?
No, what is afk helper?
I'm unsure what sort of balance of roles I should aim at having for the campaign, this is my current roster.
I'm kinda stuck at my current stage. should I open my hero exps & essence or just hold them longer?
anyone who can be my mentor?
You should read bok's beginner guide where It tells you that you should lvl up fodders to lvl 160/max then put in your. Main heroes under the crystal
Why stuck? 🥲
Thanks! I'll check them out 😁
Save them cuz the rewards u get from them scales with campaign progression. If u ever need dust or exp just afk. Only use timers if ur desperate.
my mentor told me that i can use all of it asap so i can progress
I'm only f2p that's why I'm asking
i think I'm having a good start considering i alrdy have 4 daimon copies
Yes thats indeed a good start.
I see. Well everyone has different opinions but personally id save then especialky if ur early game. U can just afk to get resources and u also buy dust in the shop everyday so u can just slowly get them. The more u push the more rewards u get. If ur sure that using some of those timers will help u progress then sure use some of them.
I recommend reading the pinned beginner guides in #classic-questions if u havent btw.
thaaanks
Any ideas?
idk who to disrupt. nemora, fera and tasi are all annoying and keep cc'ing my daimon
cleared
I've been stuck here for 2 days mannnn
Remove mirael put nara and hook that isabella
Hello, new player here. Ive been playing for a week now, following steps on the Phoenix guide but now i'm stuck on 11-4 and im kinda lost ok how to build my lineup to keep pushing further. Should i just afk and wait or there's some hope hidden within account? I have emptied the resonating crystal so i can put any recommended unit there.
Thank you very much and sorry for the long message
Hello @wicked tapir,
Please check out the pinned messages/guides in the #classic-questions and #lineup-help channels.
Shemira is 141 , and the rest of the fodder units are at 120 if that helps
Put this heroes in ur resonating crystal:
Silas, Rowan, Nara, oden, ferael
These are my current teams and my current box. Who should I use as my fourth team? Who should I ascend?
Done! :)
Now use those heroes to progress. A team u can try: shemira,oden,silas/rowan,2 tanks
Should i use golus and hogan ir add some better tank to the crystal ?
Yes u can if golus and hogan is weak to u. U can use granit,brutus(this guy is really good at lvl100+) and torne.
this stage feels impossible.
I've already checked afkhelper for comps but I don't have the heroes or RC lvl for most of them
eironn gets his pull off and daimon ults twice, but the damage is just not there.
what can I improve?
Miraculously made it into LC, any feedback on lineups
backline ferael, daimon, and nara
if shemira soul siphon's rowan, then switch rowan and brutus
cant guarantee it would work
ok wow god bless rng.
I must've done almost 100 retries :D thanks
I didn't see your msg due to no internet but good news I just sacrificed my oden to the assassin girl which let Silas heal daimon even though Silas never ulti somehow daimon took them all out 👍
Is this deficit too small for Thoran? Doesn’t seem to do enough damage, and I’ve already take the chest off
you can start taking off more pieces if needed
it is pretty small deficit so might be hard
- the rng from kaz being in enemy formation
Yeah, it's painful. Trying to find another lineup that works but most people who go with other teams either have more investment or levels
I've tried nara and eironn, but they don't stop fera's fear. The enemy fera also casts fear before mine does. Is there anything else I could try? afkhelper comps use A thoran/oden, which I don't have access to
Hard stuck
Is this a decent team for the new characters mission thing or what's the best team I can do for it?
If you look up her bountiful trial on google or anything else it’ll show a image of all teams to use for each level
@pale kettle
O tyty
Your welcome

please help
Please
Try:
Ainz
Brutus
Rowan
Albedo
Nara/oden
Haven’t played in almost a year what should I use? Not sure if it matter but I’m at 5-36 of the campaign
Read pinned beginner guides in #classic-questions. It will tell u what to do early aswell as to avoid mistakes. Theres also a wishlist there.
if you played for 1 week then quitted for a year, it's better to restart on a new server otherwise you wont be able to compete with the other players in your server. you'll have no access to challengers' token and you wont be able to buy impt heroes
Thanks for the help :)
Hey i wanted to thank u for your help this morning , im not stucked at 11-4 anymore , im stucked at 11-28 now hahaha
who use
Read the pinned beginner guides in #classic-questions. Itll tell u what to do early game. Ur not supposed to be stuck that early to ill advise lvling ur units (eg wukong lvl100)
Stop making L heroes cuz itll slow ur progress down. Get Rowan to +30. U can use a team of oden,brutus,rowan and 2 flex
Read pinned guides in #classic-questions. Id use mirael,daimon,rowan/silas/desira,brutus.
What’s a good mauler team ?
I’ve been using this but was thinking of using the rock tank guy instead of Skriath
well considering you lack the best mauler dps known as kren your kind of out of luck
Lucretia doesn't have dual divinity??
Lucretia
Daimon
Filler
oku
Eironn
Use shroud
Invade team with kren
any way to beat this floor? too much healing and shielding, even if daimon deals 10m+ dmg they're back to full health
iirc i put eironn in pos 4 thinking to chain cc them, didnt chain cc them, still won
just find a way to cc them so they wont fucking be annoying
thanks, i was thinking of either going full dmg or just have utility heroes
What should I use for campaign?
Daimon rosaline
i feel like she'd get one shot
frontline is kinda useless, those mages deal dmg to the backline as well
It's numisu.
that's why i try to use utility heroes, even if they get one shot they did something at least like ezizh and athalia
yeah, they still deal dmg to the backline
with the red totems

