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see improvement? see if its remotely possible
if it is, then you can make small tweaks and tunrs
This one, rowan instead of talene, and I think swapped brutus and rowan positions
Minimal improvement. Daimon pops an ult but then Lucius does and just shields everyone
hmmm try to put oden in front of lucius and see what tgaf does
Able to do the formation for this?
that*
nice lol
Daimon
oden
Rowan
Brutus
Farael
LMAO TOLD YA
Bahahahaha
Got another tough one. How do I deal with Isabella and grez? Usually just pulled Isabella with Nara but the shield is annoying now
Over Brutus or daimon
tell me what happens after, and what youre lacking ... over diamon
Situational or always?
situational.. here you have the girl who tps to the strongest mage
intel hero, so you wanna switch to atalene, wholl bring more use to the team, unless oden tps her away immediately and can do work
try all of it out, before asking for help tbh
Yh ideally you have grez instead of PoP there
I’d make grez mythic if you can tbh and use him
just missing 1 E+ fodder and he’ll be 209, tempted to food shem. but no rush I think just gotta wait a bit
I need help beating this team in Arena please. Used to always win but after he changed to this lineup I lose every fight.
That's my hero box. Any help is appreciated thanks!
Is my team comp okay? Or do I need to chang anything?
read the pinned guides on #classic-questions
if you read the pinned guides and ur aware that early stages are easy if you're having a hard time on pre chapter 10 you literally have skill issues
How to beat
Help please
try
raku
brutus
rowan
daimon
ferael
It didn't work
try at least 20 times to see if it gets close. Then swap rowan and daimon maybe
Gottem ty

Is Rosaline worth keeping for this team? I feel like she is the issue in the team atm.
Apologizes in advance if this is the wrong channel for it
your team usually isnt just the heroes u manually level up, also take daimon to 240 before getting the rest 220
They are primarily the only units, that are strong,
oh
daimon to 240 is what i thought originally
but my stupid ass was jealous of everyone saying how broken nezhul is
so i went for him 220
if u have ferael put him in ur crystal. Stop making L/L+/M heroes without the copies or food to take them to Ascended cos ur sperading out fodder for minimal stat boosts on heroes u will rarely use.
If u have ferael put him in ur crystal and set ur wishlist to the one pinned in #classic-questions
HCP rowan to Mythic and take his Si to +30.
Grezhul isnt great without his 9F so id rather use brutus lyca daimon oden silas (rowan replace silas/oden once hes 30)
oh, now that makes totally sense
I luckily do have ferael
thats some great solid tips u gave me, ty, but could you elaborate more on the spreading out fodder for minimal stat boosts? my original intent was just to have enough high lvl units for the arena where you have to fill in 3 teams.
There's very little difference of an E+ and L+ hero stats wise, like its not rly worth it. For arena u only need 2 working teams since its best of 3.
You'd rather save the food to take a priority hero straight to Ascended rather than 3/4 heroes to L. Also have u been foddering A-Tier heroes
, if so, stop, everyone has uses at some point in the game.
Oh yeah, makes alot of sense, now, gotcha.

Would anyone be able to help me workout my 5 teams for campaign? I stopped playing for months and now I wanna do a big push
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thank you
this is 6 months old though isn't it
recently I built up haelus for instance but idk what comp he goes in, I just like the protos
still relivant ask other opinions if you feel the need too but i use those teams still and will be pushing to ch 40
What comp does haelus fit int ofor instance
i dont have healus built so im unsure
Never used Haelus in campaign
These are all my heroes^
Any suggestions, i have a gb team/5 pull with lucretia, and the obv ainz team
my last two teams are kinda meh and inconsistent
on the guide i sent there are 10 variations of teams try to use them or use the copy team button in your battles at the bottom right for thoran cheese teams you can also use https://afkhelper.nax.is/
drop twins add rosa follow mehira ideallty you want a M20si khazard
which would drop daimon
my 4th team works just fine rn, but it feels like it only works because of my investment and not cause it's a comp.
your only at 100 deficit and youll see what team falls apart as you progess more im at 160 deficit and cant push more since i dont have oden invested in atm im at 39-28
ah yeah my GB team almost out deficits my ainz team
since they are all 9/9 30 SI. Since I don't have khaz will my 5th team even work
and does izold have a comp for him? I overinvested him i think
at only 100 deficit you should be able to throw in left over things as long as it has some cc and win
yeah ideally I setup teams that i can auto battle to chapter 39 😛
you need to fix your teams up, what's your deficit rn?
if you are at low deficit ainz/AlnaGB/Charm/Luc5p/Scarlet Team should carry you for a while
like 110ish
I do not have scarlet ;/ I sent my heroes just above if you wanna take a look
if your team 4 is working rn keep it and do AlnaGB/luc 5p/charm/ainz, replace haelus for mortas/LDV
charm is
raku
>rowan
mehira
>lyca
daimon
you need to read the beginner guides in #classic-questions it's more so your heroes that are the issue rather then the lineup you run
What would be a good team?
The guide says to use faction scrolls on them
take him off your wishlist for silas
Hey im an newbie at afk arena, i kinda know how to play it since i've been playing a game that is basically a recent copy of it , but i have no clue how good characters are. Its prolly early to decide on team since i dont have dupes of anything really other then Kren but what would be a balanced team to start using for now?
go to #classic-questions and look in the pinned messages section there are beginner guides that show you the main characters you want to aim for
I need help, very stuck here
Need help , been stuck here for 3 days
oden
brutus
lyca
daimon
nara
not sure if it will work but worth a try
Didn’t work 
was it close? and did you attempt to use it more than one time?
7 times , wasn’t really close , every time there were 4-3 hero’s left
can you get anything to mythic then link pop to them? his base si alone will help a lot
I forgot how many copies I need for Mythic
4 copies
its 2e+ for mythic and fareal would be fine he'll be your cc user after your month of pop goes away so thats fine just need fodder is all
Help please and thank you
check the formation at the bottom right and use the weakest team

i see let me go check my clear
Not mine but the best I could do to help
What lineup would you run with this? Going to remove monkey king soon.
Help plz
Suggestions?
The enemy in spot 1 and 2 are the most annoying in this stage
Hello, what should i use with daimon to do a good early game team who can carry me ?
Any tips for late game line ups with these characters or any characters I should try getting for chap-32+??
why is mehira 5*
Any ideas please?
Was bout to do the god comp but idk how well that works.
Or if it even works with the awaken talene
I was bout to focus hard on this but since those celestials are hard to 5 star, I went for daimon carry and he’s been amazing so far.
then why’d you 5* mehira
Idkkkk D; I’m just going with cool looking characters or characters with high s+ on those character tier list
;(( is there anyway I can fix this? Like should I focus 100% on building the god comp with awaken talene?
tier lists are never good
Pls tell me. Does she still work for the God comp with awaken talene?
that comp is over a year old and is no longer needed there are far better teams is what mushroom is telling you
Does any of the new teams use daimon+rosaline+rowan??
Also what does show box mean??
Okay I'll try getting her to 5 star. Thanks.
nope not 5star just one is enough its expensive and not worth it
@pine dirge where did you get that comp from? I’m curious I wanna see some other comps
i promise you dont, its nearly 2 years old if you want to look at it for fun sure but its not worth anything else
I just liked those characters moves so I put them together.
Ok
Bad move. I should have looked into the new metas. 
What do I do about Fawkes?
give call to kren, even if he gets coffined, make sure that brutus is able to hold em off. so once kren is out and he starts ulting, youll win
He’s not the one getting coffined Numisu is
good, youll easily win then
Damn you were right
@keen rain what about here?
frontline rowan, make rosa follow scarlet
also maybe place estrilda/hendrik in crystal
currently on 8-12. my front line dies in seconds, any tips?
I just hit chapter 36 and I think my PvE comps need a refresh. I used an Ainz, Luc, Scarlet, and GB comps before, but I can't remember who I used where before
Why Ainz +30 and not Albedo +30
Albedo +30 is way better
Stop engraving whoever, ideally you run thoran cheese/Alna GB(when alna has 9F)/ainz/charm/luc 5p
I garrisoned Ainz way before Albedo because I wasn't playing when they were released. Getting Albedo +30 currently
I've stopped a little while ago, but obviously I still have E30s on a bunch of people. I'll use those comps, thank you
Do the ones on =engraving + kren, main engrave mistake is thoran since it negatively impacts him
Engraving is a Hero upgrade method that further enhances their abilities and stats, available only for heroes once they're ascended to Ascended 1 Star.
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/609275505526439974/969587930299506728/20220429-211600.png
https://www.reddit.com/r/afkarena/comments/oor4qz/engraving_costs
Any help?
I’d take numisu out for lyca maybe, consider brutus if u need protection frontline
give oden si20 if u can
how in gods name do you make a team
I'm getting owned here and nobody responded here, this is the 3rd time I've posted this
not sure how to find out i may or may not of forgotten how to play
Yep
swap daimon n thoran
use brutus instead of thoran
use ferael instead of oden
may not work
Tried that couple of times
I thought i could buy time with this combination but they destroy daimon even with his shield
swap daimon and rowan instead
Hmm, I'll give it a chance
kaz deals a lot of dmg, so youd have to front rowan
any tips?
no offense but rerolling typically isn't really my style i have nothing against it i personally just don't do it
Also, i should remove feraels weapon?
tbh i don't really mind
if it can get better then i'll go for that i don't usually just scrap things excluding art
ok
@pale kettle my daimon ults 4 times and gets popped 
He's dealing between 4-6m damage but they're almost full hp at the end
dont remove all of em, just remove some so that ferael can fear faster
also in a nemora stage, it's high rng that u need to ult like 10 times in order to kill em, so just let it run on autoclick or sum
I removed his weapon only
oh mb i mistook weapon for gear
And I'll keep this combination running and hopefully it'll work 
Thanks a lot @keen rain @pale kettle 
Btw ferael dies instantly and im not getting any use out of him
Help please
bruh im being ignored again
are u a new player?
Hello @fiery wing,
Please check out the pinned messages/guides in the #classic-questions and #lineup-help channels.
well basically i used to play more like 2 years ago but i sorta forgot abt it
so youre playing on a 2 year server
ideas here? it's going quite ok, but daimon's suppose to ult a few times to win, yet he just dies at the start of every round
no tips ig, sadge
Just be patient lol
U need Nara with call on safiya then try like
Ferael
Brutus/thoran
Nara
Daimon
Rowan
Does daimon die if u swap him and Brutus as well
what a great timing to beat it myself
Now I feel bad
No worries lol
yeah most of the time he dies, otherwise he'd steal rowan's pot and mehira wont ult
Any ideas?
I see, maybe doing something like
raku
brutus
daimon
rowan
mehira
will try, thx
maybe
nara(call)
daimon
rowan
brutus
raku
Very close but idk why Daimon isn't dealing enough damage
well guys i got to a point that 2 teams are needed , is there any good suggestion? (ainz paired with saurus and prince with lucius )
if its close it could just be rng
Is there a different comp I ccan try?
you should always try swapping around positions like daimon and rowan, its a tough stage so dont expect it to immediately work
I've tried that too
manual the stage so raku doesnt ult then maybe
basically u need 2 carries, u can use ainz for r2 for the meantime bcs it’s weaker. But honestly u need to get albedo +30 for him + get rowan’s si30
got rowan to 28 cause of the event, hope to 30 him. Still dont have albedo , maybe ill try her next week with ainz
this formation was better but mehira wasnt able to do her job, so i used oden instead of her, worked. thanks
yeah do that, and keep summoning/hcp, u r missing some key heroes for multis like raku, oden, grez, skriath

run charm properly
raku
>rowan
mehira
>lyca
daimon
if mehira is getting eirron pulled it might be a thoran cheese stage 
you might need better gear on daimon with what you are running
Stuck here, any suggestions?
I’m waiting on an 8th copy of Raine or Rosa (or lucky two copies of Rowan) to finish my 5A, then will be able to push my RC and Daimon levels further.
how can I get past this 
try
ferael
thoran
rowan
brutus
daimon
idk why you’re using raku without his +30, i doubt antandra satrana or gwyneth are doing much either
Nope, didn’t work. Ferael died before fearing. Swapping Thoran and Brutus in that at least lets Ferael fear, but everybody still ends up dying before I kill anyone. Daimon just gets one ult off, but it’s not enough.
Not sure how far I should be able to go with my current levels / box… i heard that Daimon even at M is good enough to carry through most 20s, but I assume that’s with lvl 240 and stronger supports? Not sure what’s reasonable for my team at the moment.
Any advice
Read the pins in #classic-questions for beginner guides. That early you can just use wu-kong to carry.
wukong lvl 100 i lose everything i had to change to this for unlocking but now i'm stuck again lol
use mariel or whatever her name is
take his weapon off it can help fear faster
what does emo bow guy's fear even do
Ferael? Basically stuns heroes and spirits can interrupt their actions.
^ good cc
OHHHH i legit didnt know that lol
i just place him down and somehow he can win
Help lol, can't figure out a comp
Taking weapon does seem to have made him fear sooner! But my team is still dying too quickly… guess I’ll afk a bit until hopefully I get some LB / Mauler copies for my last A hero, and push RC to 200+ Daimon to 240.
Maybe I could make Rowan M+ too, since I have some excess LB fodder.
Wont really hurt, Rowan will always be useful.
No need for 240 daimon until like chapter 25/26 or smthing, u should also check afkhelper, lot of good clears there usually
Is ir possible with my lvls? Also hava daimon, rosalina, ferael, rowan. Or need more ex?
Hi, could some1 suggest me 3 teams for campaign ch.34+?
Gazing alt. Trying to beat 14-28
Can someone recommend me a team for story
Can I beat this?
Oh I see… will check out afkhelper and see if i can find something to help me. Thanks!
Anyone know what i can do?
Needing help pls. Have tried afk helper I don’t have Lorsan
Swap daimon and oden
Or could try daimon grezhul Silas ferael oden
need advice
Try Brutus daimon PoP ferael rowan, can swap positions of ferael and rowan if needed
will do thanks
Thx it worked eventually

Try 5p with daimon/scarlet or any other dps on weaker team and hypo cheese for luc on other team
Last one then im done with gb tower for a while
Try swapping daimon and ferael
Can also try swapping thoran/grezhul and oden/daimon
Nah its not working but its fine i really cba to do this rn
I’m struggling in GB tower myself tbh
I usually just do standard comp and if it doesn’t work I just overlevel or thoran cheese
Hahah yeahh i get you i cant really do cheese yet tho
ideas here? too little dmg to cheese. charm comp's suppose to work but gorvo jumps on mehira
solved
can someone please build me a team?
id restart that account
2A tier heroes at L, pretty bad but not the worse
it's good then 👍
yes, level 5 fodders/4 fodders+1 carry
you can level the 4 legendaries and mirael for now
I need a team for story
Have u read the pinned guides in #classic-questions? If you havent you definitely should. The guide will answer most of ur questions.
Switch Rowan and Brutus, put PoP at Rowan on 2
should I put PoP on 5 then or 4?
on 2
thats front ? Or do u mean back 2?
no front,
oh alright then thanks!
np
wtf man you are a genius it worked. Whats the pro of having prince at the front tho?
Im stuck
dodge comp, PoP ult cycle is actually really good to try when you're stuck
he can also fake death with his competence he unlocks
I see thanks !
What teams should I use in challenger arena
Daimon Grehz Oden Rowan Ferael
need help hard stuck again
swap brutus n daimon
and try using aezizh instead of nara, see which of the both has results
call on nara would definitely help if her hook gets outtimed by the horse's barrier
thanks will try
tasi is a problem tho
oh, i assumed that in your stage tasi would banish ferael
ig use your original formation and use lyca instead of brutus, rng enough to fear shem silvina and tasi
thanks sadly its not working
any ideas? copied this formation, i think mehira's suppose to ult twice with rosa but it aint working, even removed call from rowan so that only rosa has it(rowan dies at the start anyways, gave him defensive artifact). is this rng or should i alter something
if u can’t get rosa to ult then u just need better gear for her, I’d replace her with brutus and put rowan backline
u can try to cheese this round too, I think u have thoran built for cheesing
edit: got a round for rosa to ult, but nothing much happened
brutus was used in r2 and this formation was used to complete this round by both you and dreaf, ill try to keep in running a little longer before subjecting to thoran cheese
also for thoran cheese i assume
lyca
thoran
eironn/nara/kelthur
rowan
bunny boy
is this fine?
can someone give me advice this seems impossible
have u tried
daimon
brutus
rowan
ferael(no weap)
nara
if ur rowan and raku’s gear is the same then yeah probably just rng. I can’t remember if I had to manual that but can try to turn auto off after mehira’s ult
Im trying this right now looks better than before, why fera with no weapon tho?
will do, thanks
makes him fear faster
why does ferael with no weap make him fear faster, his weap doesnt grant haste does it?
omg this worked man thanks
I think its something to do with a mythic weapon giving him more chance to use another attack before fearing, cant remember exact details

ohh ic, thanks
the isabellas keep draining my talene's energy. can I stop this somehow?
use nara if u have her
I don't have her
same
how to get past this
swap oden and ferael, immobilize enemy ferael with nara/aezizh
thanks will try that, man do u think I m really able to push to chapter 28 30 this seems already crazy hard
well time's ticking and you need to reach ch30 before misty resets
i personally finished ch29 with A daimon n ferael, so it's possibly yeah. gears and levels also make difference
can u give me any gear advice, am I missing something?
I have 260k guild coins too and already did dim exchange
imo buy some t2 and t1 stones for daimon and co
you have 260k guild coins, saved up too much xDD
but your gears are decent, almost the same as mine
I can only t1 and t2 daimon chestplate, have no helmet (could use switch faction scroll tho), which other heroes of mine should I prioritise with T1 and T2? Oden? Raku? (not using him yet tho)
raku's a good choice, u aint using him tho and ferael doesnt need heavy gear imo
you could take oden if you want to
what do you think about rowan boots?
Any tips?
it's fine, i have not much comment on it because i have no idea whatsoever of what gear he needs, he mostly relies on his skills to survive anyways
alright thank you very much man!
thanks! got it in my first try using thoran cheese, a low quality thoran cheese never fails to succeed
It doesn't help
I just need someone to recommend me a team
this is literally in the guides, how does it not help
Eh....it was mentioned in the guide to have a team of 1 carry,1 tank, 3 supports. And ur team can change in each stage depending on the enemy.
How can I see which is hero is which
This
noice, thoran is always my first solution to any annoying stage
rowan needs T2 boots and weapon, u can use him as a dodge tank
Can I use daimon hogan arden oden and rowan
If u really want a team then go:
Daimon,oden,(any tank),rowan,(depends on enemy)
What do u think?
that's decent
if you have any tanks other than hogan it might work better
Dont use hogan and arden in ur team imo. U can use someone else that u can put in ur crystal. Although arden can work decently with his cc.
But I don't have those other tanks
Then keep pulling. You usually want a brutus/thoran as a tank. For now u can go hogan but u will want to replace him soon.
Okay
Who should I use instead of arden
You can go ferael/rosaline/safiya. But arden can work too if u want to use him.
Okay
I reset these right?
Except oden ofc
Reset twins and flora. Lvl up respen and mirael instead. The heroes ur gonna use for ur team will be put in the crystal so they dont get lvl capped.
But why do I level up repen and mirael
Because they have the highest ascension. Lvl them up instead cuz they can go pass lvl 100 since they are L and L+.
Okay
Like this?
Yes. For now work on getting arden,mirael,golus,niru and hogan to L+. Also keep lvling oden,respen,arden,mirael and golus.
Okay
Oh and also avoide doing mistakes like taking someone to L without being able to take to L+. I highly recommend reading the guides pinned in #classic-questions.
Im pretty sure i can make hogan L+ do I?
Dont use A tier heroes as fodder if thats what u meant.
I need one more elite+ and then i can make him L+
Also am i supposed to put them like this
Nope u need 2 e+. U need that other e+ hogan to take him to L+. Read the guides for a detailed explanation.
Make Rosa follow daimon. Also put rowan middle back.
I know
If I use 2 of those e+
I will have a 1 e+ left
Aka i need one more
Also if u have more questions you can go to #classic-questions or if you want you can dm me so we dont flood this channel. Good luck playing.
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Read that guide first
Wont Work, Always Missin those E or furniture etc
tried swapping daimon and mishka?
Yes , many times
does fera uses his fear behind brutus or he gets interrupted by estrilda?
Dies instantly , swapped him for lyca rn
yh put him position 5, and swap lyca/daimon backline see if it works
I’d level up 5 heroes evenly since ezizh won’t carry
Daimon will be your carry for almost ever. Work on summon and leveling him alone. Make sure your wishlist is set to the same as the pins
Awakened ezizh is only good in niche situations and not a good carry
ideas? charm wont work cos of bizh silvina, gb doesnt seem to work, thoran wont work cos of rosa
try daimon, brutus, raku, rowan, ferz
fera/brutus r flex u can try PoP/oden as well
Can someone make me a team?
can’t suggest a team that works always, I’d say reset one of ur heroes and level up daimon to 180
Don’t make L/L+ heroes, Also read the pins in #classic-questions if u haven’t
How to beat?
is there any chance I can beat this lvl or is the power deficit too big
Could anyone help me with this? 😭
Im stuck for 2 hours please help me guys
cant you reset rowan and make daimon 200
I’m hitting the dust soon I don’t really wanna do that
daimon brutus raku ferael and last slot being PoP/oden/lyca
thanks Im trying this now
if you use oden you don't want to tp hogan -> estrilda though
oh that happens tho
I'm not sure what orientation/if oden would help prevent him tp'ing estrilda/hogan so you'll probably have to find that yourself
or just don't use oden entirely
why shouldnt he tp hogan tho? Want to know the reason so I can think for myself next time
Try Brutus, Rowan, Oden, Ferael, Daimon (from afkhelper.nax.is)
tried that for too long thanks tho
should I use mercenary ? I m stuck for soo long
Help
are you close to 10si on fareal?
should i adjust my team now that i’m chapter 18?
if your still clearing levels nope, just keep leveling rowans si up
Yea , I need only 5 more emblems
he should help at 10 lycas haste may help daimon get his blood shield faster over the nara idk how much shes actually helping by pulling nemora
I used lyca many times
yeah but i mean paired with fareals 10si
nara the isabella
i don’t understand
do you have the graveborn character nara? if so use her across from the enemy isabella and nara will disrupt the isabella and hopefully allow daimon to kill her first so shes doesnt kill your team
like this?
yes but put her in your crystal
Ideas?
Tbh I would let Brutus tank for a Thalia, and use Nara for fire girl
passed Thx
Because of me? Or
I can’t use tasi or safiya since they just instant die
need advice. Lucius shield is too strong
The Tasi rng is killing me
Hey guys, any tips for this stage? Everyone getting one-shot left and right
You have daimon. I wish I had him
put in lyca for haste and maybe arden on the position of oden
guys i am new and i want meta wishlist
is aezizh here better or nara?
prob ezizh bc of 15% extra defense
can someone please give me advice?
isnt defense like literally useless when the enemies are way higher than you ?
need help cant beat this for hours. Lucius shields and nothing stops him
Put rosita and assign her to daimon. Should work out
everybody dies, rosaline cant ult cause she dies before ult
what have u tried so far? I’d swap PoP for fera
I tried everything, fera dies very quickly, should I leave fera without weapon for a faster fear attack? Or should I give him a weapon for dodge?
faster fear I think, try to keep him away from estrilda if she always kill him
Any trick for this stage? Been trying to make Raku SI to+30 will that help?(+27 atm)
u should’ve done rowan +30 instead. take raku + thoran out for fera and maybe mishka
I see, I’ll try after I have fodder for them, ty
u can use them at E, maybe oden or lyca instead of mishka
Will try, thx
Suggestions?
any advice on how to beat lucius? He makes his shield and its OP as hell
1 way is to place rowan on the opposite and make rowan ult before lucius, or even ulting when lucius' ult is in animation
How to beat?
dim exch>king arthur>dim emblems>reds
Ty
I see thanks! I ll try this now for 1 hour
What is dim exch
brehh
Sorry I new
dimensional exchange comes from time to time, basically there are new dimensional heroes that are exchangeable for coins
Ooo
or from challenger store
I see thanks
What about this?
Btw is there gift codes?
check the pins in #classic-questions
Ty^^
What team should I use for temporal?
DAIMON is pretty shit in in tr imo, oden, izold grez thorns numisi maybe, awakened ezizh and thane will carry you to 100 easy
I have thane , but sadly no ezizh and daimon is my only carry tbh
Could u tell me in what positions should i put them?
Grez, thoran front, izold back top, oden middle back, numisi back bottom, maybe try other heroes if U have them doesn't matter if they're not high developed
Run awakened thane aswell
Ok , I’ll try that , thanks
That didn’t really work out
No , I have 2 Thanes
rip, she’s really good there.
do mishka,daimon, healer, rowan, scarlet maybe?
what lvl is ur beacons?
8
Could u make a team out of this?
take thane out for scarlet even if she’s E
and lvl up mage, tank, support beacons only
try
scarlet
mishka
rowan
daimon
desira ( put her there if u have her even at E)
oh wait ur options so limited.
I don’t have desira and scarlet doesn’t show up in the hero selection
oden
daimon
rowan
grez
Numisu
replace grez with mishka if he dies, hope that ur healers don’t get killed since u don’t have much options
what floor r u, probably u r stuck
beacons levels do help a lot
I got to 50 and lost to the boss
maybe take oden out for mishka, swap her position with daimon
and level up only tank/support beacons
Oh don’t use daimon for the boss, he’s so bad there and actually impossible to win
Yeah , but he is good before the boss
yeah should be
don’t worry about temportal rift anyway, I’d say getting to 50 this early is good. maybe pushing to 100 tho idk if it’s possible
Yeah , but I want to get the T1 chest for daimon , so when I get I’ll leace temporal rift for a while
I got to the boss
Now what should I use?I have no rewinds btw
I have no idea if izold is good or not, but to be safe I’d use
grez, thoran, oden, athane, numisu
I guess it won’t work at all
ur box lacks boss killer, just wait a bit and see if u can get ur mage/tank/support to level +20
I think lower than that is really hard to push with ur box
help
I pretty much die in like a frame of a second, Am I really that outclassed or is my formation wrong, I tried multiple formations already. (Nobody has 9F yet)
brutus for grezhul, ferael for rosa, and nara for silas if u have her. U should get Rowan M+30 asap tho
ty
it actually worked, im baffled on how weak my brutus and feraela are compared to grezhul and rosa in terms of stats, and they made me win
its more about their abilities than the stats
Yeah I kinda realized that way late in the game xD
Need some help on this one
Team?
Daimon is very, very bad on boss
trying everything but its not working, need advice please
fera for oden, i dont see how oden plays a role here
could also use eironn>nara
yeah I used fera already just tried oden to see if he helps. Eironn dies instantly after pulling tho
omg it worked
nice
thanks nara did the job and rowan dodging like insane
now Im stuck on this even tho I have the same lineup as you
or do the minimum 20 levels make a difference?
20 lvls make a big difference at that stage
I mean if there is a difference between 180 and 200 for the heroes that die anyways brutus, rowan (dodges), Aezizh ?
it's mainly skill unlocks
ah I see thanks I ll reset oden then
I think for Rowan and AEzizh it makes the most difference
Didn’t you literally say you completed it
Pull Belinda with Nara

any tips?
I invested too much into them when I was a dumb noob
still am kinda
😭😭 I know
thanks, Ill try
Can someone please help me make 3 solid teams for Temporal Rift
first thing don’t put rangars on there, u should only have 3 beacons levelled up mage/tank/support
u r missing albedo to build ainz comp but these what I used
Ideas?
Stuck on this level for quite a while, maxed all I can so far without sacrificing elites. Tried changing formations and heroes to no avail. Could I get help please
A saveas could carry you till chapter 15 at least easily. You made mistakes early games
Please help
Swap Rosa out for eironn or Nara if u have her
i die everytime
cant beat this, need some advice. I m so close to 28-36 help guys
oden
brutus
rowan
ferael
daimon
thanks will try this
not working should I remove the weapon from fera so he fears faster? I had it equipped for dodge
you can switch brutus and ferael. I used legendary+ weapon on ferael for a long time. I think I started to use a mythic weapon when I started using grez 9f
tho ferael vs ferael you want a mythic weapon
I see will try that. I can make the weapon T2 if that helps? Dont have boots T2 yet tho and I ll probably start using raku soon so idk if weapon or boots first
luc>raku>kren>ferael for gear priority for stones. tho getting luc is around chp 33-34. You can use hypogean gear on someone else in the meantime
is there a way I could deal with isabella? I always find it incredibly hard anytime she shows up on a stage, but this one feels like I'm so far from winning
nara is usually a good counter
How can i win this battle 🥺
HELAP
can someone please make me a team?
Anyone help?
I feel like I'm getting no where with this stage
Try:
Rowan
> Grezhul
Eironn
> Brutus
Daimon
*if it doesn't work either keep trying or change the formation
is my current team the best i could get or can i upgrade someone else to be better? its currently the top 5 units
What in the goodness gracious… someone help. I get popped (tried with Rowan front as well)
Is my current lineup ok or should I upgrade someone to fit into my team it’s currently daimon, thoran, lyca, thane and ezizh
Any ideas
I got 2 slots to resonate, who do you think would help me more in campaign?
ferael andoden probs, tho i think u lack a healer
Thanks! yes think i do, is raine a good option for some healing?
I see! ty ty ❤️
Hi, wasn't playing game for a long time, even after tier lists cant figure out meta, what teams should i build? Pve and pvp
last stage of 28!!
Is there anything i can do or do I just need to lvl up
My whole team just gets to 1/5th hp at the start
Using the top 5 rn, should I upgrade Lucius to legendary??
I cant tell if its Thane or Lucius thats being a pain
@unborn folio Try this
is there a way to deal with this? Have the same comp as others that won but this isn't going anywhere even tho Im 50 level higher
if it's the same as others the things you'd want to look at upgrading/comparing are:
Rowan's gear (weapon and boots)
Ferael SIF/Gear
Daimon 203/200 works
Is using a mythic card for 1 daimon f worth it? prob not right
nah nrlly
you could come up with your own formation using raku/PoP/Oden though
I don't think you'll get bursted down too quickly with rowan/brutus frontline at that stage but I'm not sure
I ll try that yeah. Thanks!
my early game knowledge with daimon is a bit rusty, I might have to start playing on my alt to give you more precise info 😅
Any thoughts? I can clear r3, and thoran cheese r2, but can’t ainz r1, and all the clears in afkhelper use him for this round
try swapping daimon and mishka perhaps talene and mezoth, then mezoth out for sonja
will try it later. thanks
what do you use in r2?
I can clear r1 with merc luc 5pull, but then I’m stuck for r2-3
feels kinda stuck without arthur and grez, no gear resonance yet too xd
could you not luc r1 and then ainz r3 with your own luc?
my luc doesn’t seem to be good enough for it, might be possible if I retry more
u r saying luc 5p r1, ainz r3 and use maybe charm for r2?
bcs ainz seems to do worse in r3 than r1
why not swap nara for oden/kren and swap PoP and albedo for r1 
nvm then just stick to ainz r1 then, thought r3 would be easier
tried that, everyone dies instantly except albedo + ainz. I get ainz to ult once then he dies
kren call and he ults?
nope kren alwyas die before he ults, he has call too
why not try swap kren/ferael?
tried that but I’ll still keep trying and see, doesn’t seem to survive long enough for ainz’ skill to take action
u think grez would work for that? and what would u use with him
too close to get him A but not so familiar with his comps yet
I usually use
silas
>grez
ferael
>brutus
oden
with brutus holding barricade
its luc, I remember thats stage
In my experience, it is hard to use ainz without 9f at 100+ deficits. You can try:
pop/nara
brutus
ferael
albedo
ainz
Is the new hero good? Or the nerf hit hard
Ideas,
any ideas?
watch the pinned begginer guide
anyone got any idea on this? most of my friends run made me pass r2, but not r1. i tried to allocate both raku and daimon to r1 and try to cheese r2 but i failed
I’ve been stuck on this one for a few days…. Any suggestions?
Thanks! Had to also switch oden and farrel and after a few tries it worked
Yup I’m working on that he’s 22 rn
any advice?
raku pos 3 better or pos 5? i have no idea xd
or can anyone alter this team's formation, i dont know if lyca should frontline or not and if grez is suitable for pos 2
also can i do thoran cheese here? the enemies are too tanky, it's almost impossible
raku charm against any tasi team is going to be annoying but doable
thx for the tip, finally worked.
I'm stuck pls help
ferael/nara would help, so that the 2 hypogean mages wont almost kill everyone
Hi so I started game today this is my team: I got card for next hero what faction should I focus ?? Wild or light ?? What to lvl now ?? I’m focusing mostly on wukong
I’d suggest focusing on graveborn faction, and don’t worry about wukong. Also mirael is very strong early game
Graveborn ?? Wasn’t like light best mid game and then wild I mean it used to be when I was playing but that was long time ago 😛
Lightbearers aren’t that great any more, with a couple exceptions, graveborn is easily the strongest of the main 4 factions. Graveborn > wilder > lightbearer > maulers. Each faction has its standouts, but overall graveborn has the most useful heroes
Ok so I’ll focus them thanks 🙂 and other question I need to get to lvl 60 rest heroes before get wu Kong higher need to focus on specific heroes and if yes wchich ??
Daimon for sure
So basically I just focus this undead faction all the way ?? 🙂
Are there any guides for wish list I got old one 😛
Well of course you will need all factions but it’s good to get a head start on graveborn. Wukong can carry you until you get daimon. Yea there’s a pretty good starting guide let me grab a link
This guide is really long, but it’s packed full of really good info, I’d suggest reading the whole thing, but there’s links at the top for specific parts if you want to skip to certain things
Thanks
Swap raku and pippa
Why do you have 6 heroes lvled???
get daimon to +20 and rowan +30 next
oh i have lyca cause
Cause it's dumb, wasted
ok thank u will do
reset lyca and put her in your rc
ok
I'd reset rowan and put him in RC as for lyca is M+
but i wont have a healer then
reset either, doesn't really matter at your stage unless one of them is close to A
wait do u mean to level up lyca then put rowan in rc so his lvel goes up
Any sugesstion?
can someone please build me a team?
Help please
I need help building a team...I'm stuck on chapter 7 and I need a decent team to get through the PVE levels...can someone help me based on what I have? I looked at the pinned channels for beginners and I'm confused and need help...I just started yesterday
level shemira and ur tanks arent very good think about changing them
Any suggestions?
Remove ferael/nara for oden. Oden should teleport estrilda. Put brutus near the place where estrilda is gonna get teleported. You try removing both nara and ferael for oden and rowan.
Daimoncarry @loud lark?
Yes , daimon is my carry
Use rowan instead of Nara for heal and energy boost on daimon, a rosaline on him would be great as well
Oden teleports hogan
Oden
>mishka
Ferrael
>Brutus
Daimon
Not sure if it would work, just test it out
Damn bro , it worked first try , thanks
Great man:) good luck, just ping me if you need any help
Oof but atleast u manage to clear it with @pale kettle recommendations
@loud lark why do you have 6 leveled heroes? Reset 2 of the legendary ones and level Mythic
Thats a fair point Xenyn
Oh wait, you are right , I totally forgot about the fodders , thanks
Do you have brutus @last fjord
Daimon is my carry
Okey
Test this, dont know if it will work or not
What artifact for Thoran?
Call if you have several of them
I have 4
Do you have call on daimon?
yes
Good
@last fjord these are the ones i use the most
Daimon, ferrael, thoran, brutus, lyca, rowan mostly sometimes nara but rarely
But u shouldnt frontline daimon
I don't have any oden copies so I will use Tidus in his place
Ok nice
any ideas?
any advice on this stage?
Try :
1# grez
2# silas/ rowan
3# daimon
4# rowan / silas
5# mirael
any advice? im stuck
Maybe change mishka for wukong to get even more faction bonus and swap aezizh with sonja
no luck, thank you tho o7
No worries, just wait until tmrw and you’ll definitely be able to blow this stage up. You don’t usually get higher than chapter 8 on your first day 🙋🏼♂️
really stuck on this stage need some ideas
Did you take a look at some setups? Afkhelper.nax.is
Lucretia cheese not working? Brutus in front, Lucretia rampages through the enemies once they are all onto brutus (he and luc should be the only ones surviving in order for it to work properly)
nope i tried multiple, estrilda and niru dosnt get killed in time and niru 1 shots with his scythe
Try lyca instead of a hypogean for the initials haste buff
omg it worked tysm
No worries 🤪
Any advice? Tried like 25 times and can’t seem to win
why did u push Tower
Is it bad to push tower?
Is it bad to push tower?
guys i’m stuck i need help with a lineup please
What are you stuck on?
ignore the diamonds i accidentally bought a bunch and then refunded
chapter 14
and kings tower 150
Like which specific stage send a screenshot of it
no one singular lineup is going to solve all your problems its stage dependant like boom said and we need to see the sepecific stage with the enemy heros your facing so we can attempt to reccomend something
This is an example
oden
thoran
rowan
daimon
nara
👌
btw for you its fine to push tower its where majority of the gold is at and its helpful for you honestly you need a cc hero that doesnt die right away since your fareal is only e so if you have pop try him
Best teams for temporal rift? I’m on floor 300
Pop?
prince of persia
this is working even worse :((
take daimon to 180 you have 4 heros at 140
ok when i get my 10k diamonds back i’ll reset the un needed ones and raise daimon
what’s the fastest way to get those diamonds back
The fastest way possible is to buy them 😳
besides buying them
playing the game typically you can get a good amount a day doing dailies weeklies your peaks of time and so on
Okay so currently using:
Rowan Mirael Arden Lucius Golus
Should I be doin something else
PVE
i’m stuck on vipers marsh 😦
please help, last stage. I have mishka ascended too
did u check hybridxy’s clear on afkhelper?
tho this one was tough, I think I used merced luc there
not yet I will check it now and try the same. My raku doesnt have that much dodge tho cause of fera wearing some of the T2 gear
Use nara to pull Safiya as well will likely do a fair bit
I would probably drop Brutus for it with rowan in front of daimon. Could also put Brutus in front of Athalia if she is nuking your backline immediately.
give ur best gear to raku, fera doesn’t really need it. only there to fear probably
try
raku
>daimon
brutus
>rowan
ferael
thanks a lot guys, raku seems promising if I keep retrying it should work out I think
Yep when all else fails hit retry another 100 times lol
#1 thoran
#2shemira
#3daimon
#4silas
#5ferael
I can't get past chapter 7 and I don't know what I should do...I'm not sure if my team is even good or who to use instead. I've only got these guys
either get wukong to lvl100 instead of eironn or overlevel ur mirael
I’m not sure when wukong carry falls off
I have daimon at mythic+, brutus, lyca, thoran and rosa at mythic.
Should I take skreg, raine, ferael to mythic or wait for some other hero?
Currently on map 19
u r capping yourself at lvl180-200 with so many M/M+
only ascend heroes if they r at 8 copies to A
I cant even lvl up daimon to 200 right now :D.
But wait with ascending anyone else until i can make some A then? I thought I needed some lineup depth too
Isn’t it the right thing to ascend 5 heroes to mythic/mythic+ after fodders are at 160?
yeah u only take the heroes closer to 8 copies to M/M+ when u r level capped, ur goal at this point is rushing 5A to break ur rc
most heroes are useable at E+ at ur chapter, u don’t need them at M
break ur rc
What's rc? 😄
only if u r level capped, and u take the closest to 8 copies
Resonating crystal
^ u break ur rc when u have 5 heroes at lvl240. then u start levelling up ur rc instead of heroes
I have 6 copies of raine and ferael, worth ascending either of those 2 or try to get daimon, brutus or thoran to A first?
Yes it’s worth it , u need 5A as soon as possible
HELP
show ur factions box at #classic-questions
bro. wtf
u lack a carry, tbh idk what would work with ur heroes
Why do u have so many L heroes?
L?
Isnt Shemira a carry?
Legendary
idk
Try swapping solise position with shemira and swap shemira with rowan
She was…. 2 years ago
Soooo I shouldnt be reading afk.guide? 😄
You should read the beginners guide in the question channel pins
Don’t just copy the teams , try different positions and if it doesn’t work , maybe change a hero or two
Didnt work 😦
No!!!! Not at all xd
Go into #classic-questions there should be a pinned guide which is up to date
Keep trying. I have to retry certain stages 1000 of times to get it working just once 😂 you need to be patient
You can try switching solise with shemira and replace shemira with mirael
ok
If it doesn’t work , you can try replacing Sonja with oden/Rowan
Another option could be:
#1 thoran
#2 sonja
#3 mirael
#4 rowan
#5 solise
To get the faction bonus from 3x lb
I read all those pinned guides, but afk.guides has the team composition articles which are helpful. Hard to tell what heroes work together otherwise
that does mega damage
There you can see what other people used to clear certain stages// get the hang of which heroes go together most of the time
ill check that out! thx
I can borrow you mine (ascended) or you can try cecilia
If athalia is needed to interrupt mehira, a elite zaphrael should do the job aswell
no, but u don’t even have ur crystal unlocked yet…
Yall I need help
Any suggestion for something I should try? Been stuck here a bit.
I have tried most conventional solutions
Oden
brutus
rowan
daimon
fera
Brutus? He is only elite, do your think it's worth getting him lvl boosted?
I have tried FERA and oden but they underperform massively compared to awakened thane
Awakened buff is too strong and Thane just solos stuff in their backline
ppl use brutus E+ even in ch40, but I think u need lvl141 for him.
not sure how good is thane early game
fera is pretty good to interrupt enemy’s backline. Try swapping out rosa for him
u r missing key heroes, but
grez, daimon,fera,rowan,Silas/desira
aim to get grez 9f, raku and rowan +30. and get skriath 3f for luc 5p when u get her M
ok ty
Need help for 12-21
imagin ppl knowing every stage with their enemys
we need a pic of the stage
Astar, Brutus, Sonja, Rowan, Shemira
maybe try to switch Brutus with Astar
Has anyone a suggestion for a 4th team I've been using as main dps ainz on my first Lucretia on my second and Belinda on my third but I'm looking for another good dps to level for my 4th team.
have u been going for poe from all chests? u r lacking important +30s
I’d get grez 9f and rowan +30 for now
fix ur WL if u haven’t so, and then build raku +30
actually u r missing a lot of investments
Oden/fera/daimon +20/skriath 3f/ and no dimensionals for some reason idk why
I’d ask how to fix that in #classic-questions
love the diamonds
Thanks :D
instead of atandra put rowan in her spot and try that
This one worked
yw
Try
Ferael
Brutus
Eironn
thoran
Daimon
Amazing! Thank you! That worked. Do you think that formation will help throughout the chapter?
It won’t work every stage but it can do quite well sometimes
Who should I fusion ainz with please ? It’s my first rent also waiting for Alberdo rent to get accepted too
Also my daimon is+20 and Rowan +30
Tasi, since you probably wont play her in the same setup as ainz
Ainz ideally needs 209 and an Albedo 303 for him to work well, PoP should ideally be first garrison since he’s helpful early game
Help this poor guy with his formation
Im reading so many guides but i feel like im doing smth wrong
Go to #classic-questions and read the pinned guides. It’s probably your first day of playing so not too much you can do wrong atm
Yeah i came from there. But there's too much info. I get blown away
Also you can reset ferael and gwyneth to give the lvl to another ogi and izold. This way you can increase your lvl cap even further
You have the main guide saying that i should get Daimon and make him the maim carry
Can you explain that further?
Yes he is the best early game carry by far!
But if you have no luck in getting him, you need to invest in someone else.
For now your carry is Awakened talene, so you should always try to have her at the highest lvl possible
You can reset them there 👌🏼
Yeah i know how to reset but why would i do that?
U mean thw other 2 are irrelevant ansd i should make talene as strong as possible?
Cuz currently you have 2/5 elite heroes leveled up which restricts your units on getting lvl 100+
In order to increase your lvl cap, you need to have at least 5/5 elite+ heroes. This way your lvl cap increases to lvl 120.
5/5 legendary =160 (i think)
And so on…
Ya talene is your main carry for now. She should deal/tank the highest amount possible
Tyvm
No worries 🙂
i just pulled a bunch of new elites and i don't know what to do with them. im stuck on 10-22, any advice on who i should put onto my pentagram and what comp i should use? :'D
You should take a look at some guides. There i a beginner guide pinned in #classic-questions
thank you o7
If you have Brutus, place him and thoran opposite of the athalias. And if you dont have him put ferael and thoran against athalia, since ferael has a high dodge rate. Rowan should be on slot 4# (back-middle) and daimon against thane
Could take some retries since ferael needs to survive athalias attack for a bit.
Great 😄
5/10
Could be better, but also could be worse 😂
What lineup do you usually use to push?
No worries :p
Silas can be useful in slot 4 just like rowan. Try swapping them around. If you slot 4 silas than rowan should be in front of thane since he needs healing the most (main carry)
Ya you can also swap thane for mirael since she is a okayish early game carry for now🙋🏼♂️
I never get stuck in no games I play I can alway find the answers here
You should always try to have your main carry at the highest lvl possible since they can make or break a stage
So thane
Sometimes you need to be patient since this game is all about gaining afk ressources
I’ll switch gears then I have for Sonja
👌🏼
I have been
I’m happy to get thane on a 1 pull 😝
Very lucky indeed 😉
My first gold card to come out of there but I got daimon too
I just wanna be playing the game right
Beginner guide
So thane and daimon
Gold cards (legendary/ awakened heroes) are fairly new and extremely low chance of obtaining if you haven’t unlocked timegazing (around chapter 16~)
Or raku
Daimon should be your #1 priority since he is the best early game carry by far
But that doesn’t change with awakened thane?
Raku will be useful if you planning on using him chapter 31+ (thats where multifights start)
No cuz you dont have an option to specifically summon awakened thane until chapter 16 and even then he is a p2w (around 200-300$ if you want to ascend an awakened unit)
For a f2p it takes over 1+ year to get a single awakened hero ascended
And awakened thane needs insane investment to work in later chapters. That’s why you are better off investing into other team compositions
Oh shyt ok
Daimon it is then
But daimon won’t die when he’s in the back
Ya daimon should be your main objective and remember to ise your faction scrolls on graveborn only until you have enough copies of daimon/ grez/ silas/ oden/ ferael (each need 8x copies to be able to get then to ascended tier)
Depends on the enemy formations. Takes a little while to know the correct placement of each hero to counter enemy lineup. Just be aware of what the enemy does and I’m sure you’ll eventually get the hang off it 💪🏼
Your a rare breed bro nobody would not text me so much thanks
Don’t worry mate 🙋🏼♂️
Any help please ?
Try:
#1 grez
#2 brutus
#3 rosa
#4 atalene
#5 eirron
You want to make sure to kill arden since he most likely kills all your units
Nevermind i won the stage but thanks for help
Either way, happy it worked out for you 🤪
#1 wukong
#2roasline
#3 mirael
#4 rowan
#5 fawkes
You should go into #classic-questions and read the pinned guides tho.
Dont make so many legendary heroes. Slows down progression too much
i made those before i was told not to, now i only am upgrading the 5 in the picture in those pins
Perfect 😄
Wouldn’t harm to read some guides tho since that’s the easiest way to progress consistently/ without making too many mistakes that could hurt you in the long run 💪🏼
why is mirael 3 btw?
should she be 4 so she can do the most damage with her ultimate?
also who do i target rosaline to
Also possible but the most optimal placement for rowan is the 4th slot. This way every hero can profit of his healing. If rowan is on eg slot 2 —> slot 5 wouldnt get healing and if hes placed in 3/5 it wouldnt reach 2/5 - 1/3
oh ok
Rosaline can be either linked to wukong to give him extra stats or mirael since she is your main carry and 2 ults of her should clear most of the stages
ill do wukong since mirael ult isnt hitting as much as id like
