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1st one is decent at least. u dont have any other heroes in rc.
also when talene falls off, your comp would look super different since you'd progressed a lot by then
u could also add vyloris in 1st pic in replacement of nemora
Whats rc?
resonating crystal.
@oblique nebula
before rc240, pvp is just about levels and u can use ur pve comp for it
Ooo ok ya im hoping i can get better toons by then
That’s a lot of very helpful info, thanks a ton @keen rain ! Helps knowing this background - can more intuitively try comps now! I do have eye on Oden (and call on Daimon), but my artifacts are low level at the moment.
Shes a trial or i would
yeah she's a trial. so remember to edit your formation time by time because she'll disappear once your trial is over
Yea ty
well try smth like
fera
brutus
rowan
thoran/lyca
daimon
keep in mind tasi stages r high rng
also id advise removing raine and the wilder orangehead girl from rc and add rowan(if u got him) and another hero that fits well with daimon
brutus in place of grez, arden in place of rosaline
remove the celehypos from your crystal, theyre cool but u wont be using them. add ferael(if u got him), nara, and oden(or not)
I don't know what I'm doing wrong. Some of my retries, he's the first one to die. I'm not sure if there's much more I can do to boost him so he isn't the first to die
what gear does he have? u should have T2 at this point
I’ve never used eiron aside from just pulling and die, but u can try use the same comp u had but fera instead of daimon. if he’s got better gear and ic u have him invested
tbh ur box kinda looks weird, how don’t u have any +30 so far?
I haven't strengthening his gear because I was saving for a better champion
it's fine to strengthen t2 gears since you could remove them and give it to others, just dont strengthen to t3.
I have like 1 or 2. Just not any that probably should. I was mismanaging my champions before I knew what I should really be doing
I also don't have the stones for t2 gear because my rng sucks and I haven't been buying them
u have tried this right and said he dies fast? did u try to swap frontlines?
or swap fera and daimon
Yes
I can get Fera to acceded 1 star but at the same time can also get grez to acceded (once I get another L+ Fodder)
would wait a bit, grez wants his 9f
If it helps, this is the stage I'm stuck on
idk then u can keep retrying, swap things around. or wait till u get the reds from event to +30 luc. check afkhelper for reference
pretty sure daimon can carry at that deficit, maybe just gear issue
Afk helper?
yh a website, u can check others’ clears
Hmm
https://afkhelper.nax.is/
u could also follow people/add friends and see their clears
Another thing too could be that I'm not using the right artifact?
What's usually recommended for Daimon?
Other than that, I'll work on making all his gear t2
daimon usually needs call
Daimon's arti would be call. Sometimes barricade or other tank artis.
I'm trying out the barricade, maybe I need to switch it to call
t4*
Any tips?
how can you have auto battle on chapter 10??
ideas? i cant cheese this. dunno how to do this
Suggestions?
try
nara
-lyca
rowan
-daimon
ferael
So no daimon?
oh mb,
Any Suggestions?
Idk just because 😂
no actually how tf
Try rowan daimon nara fera thoran
prolly swap nara for aezizh
will do, ty
any ideas with the heroes i have?
Hve u tried swapping ezizh and Rowan
Many times. Daimon dies too quickly
U can maybe try
Pop
Rowan
Ferael
Brutus
Daimon
Give at least 20 tries for rng to see if it gets close
PoP is bound to Ferael
Unlink, link him to tidus/scarlet or smthin
swap aezizh and rowan maybe?
hello any advice for 39-8 since 2 week im stuck at this OTHROS fight i cant make these thoran cheese 2 work i tryed with 5star EYE whatever nothing works....thoran just cant 1shot othros any advice sugestions im curently 379 RC
@elder sand try this one , it worked for me easy. Just make gear adjustments, if it doesn't work well
any sugestions what to put instead of ezio?
i dont have him i got prince 203 woud it work?
Something that doesn't die insta
If your thoran it's not 9/9, u may need one more call maybe
i got thoran 309 just nothing seems to work im 379 lvl....maybe i just need lvl up more
Nah, atm, the lower lvl the better, for thoran
Just put more gear on thoran if he dies too fast
thing is his REFLECT skill cant 1shot othros he has like 5% health left and then kills thoran
What's your thoran gear atm?
Eh, the guides are not always working, if thoran cannot cast the second ult sometimes, u need better head piece and chest to survive long enough to double cast
he suvives but when he reflects dmg he cant 1 shot otrhos all others are dead.... and since othros survives with 5% hp he refills stunlocks /instakills me
what lineup should i use here
@elder sand that means, that u need greater dmg. Eye can give some crit dmg, t2 helm also
if u cleared that ping me and btw what u used on r3
r2 and r3 pains me
@fiery wing i just got problems iwth 2nd fights thoran cheese , all others are ok., 3rd fight ROWAN BRUTUS, kahzard mehira rosa, kharazard merc 309 , mehira Elite+
what ur rc at? btw this works r2 too
im rc 379, u cleared with setup from above? what artifact on thoran?
lorsan ww, ezizh tidebearer, raine strings, kelthur call, thoran eye
immma increase my rc to 375 before i push btw what tr floor ur on currently?
what twiested realm floor i am? what u mean
yes
378 TR Floor, so i ask once again u cleared 39-8 with the setup u linked me? and similar RC lvl?
not yet but this guy did
same rc as u
hm weird as fk...tbh i put same artifacts strings on raine and eye 5star on thoran and nothing works...i dont understand how some people get GODLIKE RNG....meanwhile i think i got over 10hours of REPEATS on this stupid stage it starts piss me off, never had problems like this not even in FLORA Fights
yeaaa true i really dont get it sometimes escpecially r3
@rapid oracle and wait when u get to marauler tower stage 378 im stuck at that stupid stage since 3 weeks its flora + brutus stage
imma try to push when i get to rc 375 theres 2 routes i can do
- merc brutus
- merc antandra
and i think tidus 203 is huge too
i got full ascended 203 brutus , full t3, 309e30 kren , 203 tidus 🙂 even merced 309e60 tidus and nothing worked for 378 flora stage 🙂 keep me update if u bea this 39-8 fight 2.... and with what setup
btw u need a 309 brutus got it
Can u show me 39-08 ?
pls help 🙂 @royal stag
i tryed switch this setup , put thoran instead of raine.... put him instead of ezih, put 5star call, 5star eye, othe 4star CRIT artifact on thoran....just nothing works
@elder sand
yeah i cant use that cuse i need to merc zolrath...and i already mercd kahzard for fight 3....but i tryed also with that artifact, i still think im to low lvl...i see from ur screen ur 400 im 379 @royal stag
stuck on c6-4
Ur deficit is 194 mine was 188 no big difference
no idea tbh this stage made me stuck...since 2 weeks +.....it just sucks so hard
Any advice? Team seems to rip through most levels and then gets hard stuck on levels like these!
Tzuyu's clears are op
yeah i tryed all of them none worked for me 🙂 he was bit higher lvl than me tho...still RNG Is RNG @royal stag
What am I doing wrong here? The boss does one hit and my scarlet dies and that's the only one that really does damage. Can't get higher than 6mil
The boss kills highest damage dealing hero after 15, 40 and 65 seconds. You want to bring another hero that can deal more dmg than scarlet early(usually raku), and delay scarlet ult until 15 seconds (use manual)
Aha that makes sense. Just did manual and waited to active her skills and now I dealt 48mil. Thank you!
any recommendation for a comp? I also have PoP and Melusina still unfused
Nah there’s a guy I follow at lvl 369 on chapter 40-20
Anyways, any tips for this team
Lucius isnt using his shield at all
The reason he isnt using his shield is either he dies to fast to activate it or he gets cced then dies. Just dont invest on him at all since he falls off hard later.
Its 29-60
Safiya put her shield around the backline heros, ezizh makes it to where they cant use their ult, brutus wrecks me by having his immune thing, athalia does like all the damage. This feels like an unbeatable team.
Any suggestions? That Fawkes locks Daimon out and Saveas + Athalia shred stuff. I tried Nara against Fawkes (with and without Lyca), and doesn’t seem to help.
try lyca in place of oden, and see if ferael fears faster than fawkes's coffin
Nope. I could upgrade some gear on Ferael (has Mythic wrong faction boots).
Also, I have call on Daimon, Nara and Rowan, Eye on Ferael and Oden - should I change anything around?
seems good
try removing some haste gear from ferael, replace oden with nara
so that ferael can fear faster(apparently) and see if nara can delay fawkes's coffin
Confused - why would removing haste gear let Ferael fear faster?
Any suggestions?
apparently his skill order will change
instead of his weird ass slow attack that summons a spirit, he fears first instead
swap oden with ferael
Oh interesting! Got to head to work, will try some of this out in the background and hope to rng it.
not sure what gear exactly works best for ferael to fear quickly, but im guessing adding a lyca only ruins it so dont use her if you're trying to fear first(not proved)
Definitely did better then old line-up but didn't work
Tasi keeps putting me asleep
I am at chapter 27 with a team of heroes hose lvl are 240×4 hero and and 220×2 hero . Should i try to push more ??
yeah, u can get to ch30 with that rc
Hi there! I'm at chap 38-44. Need some help with comps for story mode and especially pvp and new treasure scramble. Some advice for what to focus next would be great too.+
(no Ainz cause I just don't like that character)
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Should i push chapter 27 ??
why wouldnt you, you've already broken crystal so u can get to 31. Just get rowans Si to 30
Need some help, I’m trying to take down Isabella fast but even when I do, everything on the top side survives and comes and cleans the rest of my hero’s
Thanks... I guess... But I'm interested what can I do with my heroes NOW, not in long terms. I saw those comps, but I'm f2p so can't build them right away.
Maybe try Brutus on front top so he can tank few more seconds?
ya i tried and thoran still lasts longer even after brutas pops his immunity
Rosa instead of Arden?
And I would recommend building Daimon. He is a true beast in early game.
ya ive been trying but unfortunately Damions hp doesnt match with Grezhul and Thoran
Daimon is not a tank. He should be backline almost always.
oh
He just need some time to get his shield and steal some stats from enemies. 🙂
so just protect damion?
Yep. And he becomes 1v5 king until like chap 30. 😄
Pls help me
Safiya put her shield around the backline heros, ezizh makes it to where they cant use their ult, brutus wrecks me by having his immune thing, athalia does like all the damage. This feels like an unbeatable team.
Try to place A Ezizh against Safia.
Ok then do i have Lucretia against brutus?
Maybe try Luc in 5 and someone in front of her. Or even against Brutus. I think it's possible, just need Luc to ult few times I think.
Working on lucrecia

Its not working
Guys im garbage help me fix my shit
I don't have Haelus or Athalia
and dont have lightning boy for team 4 😦
I get absolutely destroyed on this stage. Can anyone help?
I don’t have a copy of athalia who should I use instead
U can try Eiroon, Nara or AwEzizh
Maybe Zaphrael
Ty
this is my current team, im on chapter 6-32 im starting to struggle, whats my best options
no point using raku without +30
Can't seem to get this stage. I've swapped everyone so much that I'm dizzy now
you tried dmoney up front lyca top rowan middle aziz behind brutus?
Struggling in the lab. Thoughts?
Any ideas please?
try brutus over aw thane if you have him
mercenary a lucretia from a friend
I do but he will get one shot that sends him into oblivion 
he has his immunity shield and im sure that he'll live longer than aw thane
I'll try it but honestly this tree guy is annoying, he stuns daimon at the start of the battle and when everyone dies daimon doesn't have the ultis to back it up xd
so any team with tasi is going to be an issue moving forward you need cc of your own to combat it
fareal or pop
I need to build my fareal
that or you need to get something else to M and link pop to them and unlock his base si since the 3 you have you kind of want to use
Btw i can unlock si even if i don't have enough copies?
for who?
post your 4f boxes
okay so you dont have the copies of fareal so your only cc hope is oden who youd have to invest 20 si in or garrison pop and give him just base si to unlock it
then see if that works out for you but yeah your going to need to hope you get a copy of rowan his si who you should be saving for next you have the fodder obv just need his last copy do you have that hero choice chest still?
Nope i used the ch12 one for daimon
if so use it on daimon get his last copy then you can unlock hcps monthly in the field of stars
do you have the flora chest still that has daimon in it?
Nope
I don't have any selection chests
welp try
Lyca
brutus
oden
daimon
nara
I think I'll have 50 scrolls at the faction summons
Once i beat this and get the 20
What relic should i use for brutus?
Grace?
yeah try grace
@silent moss 10th try and it's the same xd
swap lyca and brutus
Doesn't work, theses no time for my daimon to ulti
And when he does, he dies instantly
10 isnt that many tbh, 20-30 is better and if u dont get close then maybe u needa change smth
Yeah yeah I'll keep trying, i usually go for 50 and then call it a day if i don't beat it
This stage seems impossible to beat with any heroes i got, should i just wait for the next week and do it with merc?
Post hero box too
@silent moss no shot 
need to get past this for furniture, any changes I should make?
not having rowans si is hurting you honestly that 200 energy potion would make it more consistent then 400 when hes 30si
I know that's why i said game hates me xd
yeah your good merc it if you havent used yours yet and if so then just play the week out you should get more summons through other means like mv faction towers and so on kt as well
I'll try more and give up Till next week xd
anything I could do?
silias
brutus
nara
daimon
rowan
my Nara is just an elite
thats fine your pulling the emeny fareal over to disrupt him and let daimons minion smack on him and attempt to cc him
that or rowan will cc him with his ultimate
alright thanks
Yeah you only need E with Nara, I still use an E+ at times in 35+
any help?
level daimon higher and get his si as high can but stop at 20 then try this
oden
daimon
silias
lyca
aw ezizh
Anyone have tips for this lvl?
have you checked afk helper? put the filter to date added descending
Afk helper doesn’t work, I download the image to see the team used and I try to look at it. It shows me nothing
you can see it correct?
Yes
alright cool so i hope rng lets you clear it
i literally just beat that
What team did u use
I’ve Ben trying for like 2 hours, my thoran isn’t engraved but I’ll try blade. I’ve been using call / eye on thoran
that just the first one i found in your level bracket
1,2,4,5
@wintry robin I tried the formation you had when I was at your level for 32 hours+ and I didn't beat it, I tried the formation I sent and I beat it in 30 min~
Then 39-60 was super easy
Kelthur needs the gear, he needs to live until his energy is basically full so that thoran can get it
Like this ?
Kelthur just needs gear, but yes
Thanks
Want me to send 39-60 as well?
How do I beat this 😭
For arena
Pvp is such a whale game. Wu Kong is probably your best shot right now
Thx
why do you have so many L heroes
i have a lot of questions on this
a. how is this stage beatable, ezizh explodes everyone diee. i have the same stuff for everyone(from afkhelper)
b. i tried the raku+charm, mehira charms them once and everyone dies afterwards. is it normal?
try brutus instead of ferael, swap him and daimon. put in rowan for thoran and swap positions with raku
New account who should I use and level for the start?
doesnt work. daimon's pretty much useless with vurk on his ass, rowan's also useless, energy and hp income on the frontliners is reduced so his pots is meh
Use Vyloris and Mirael, take out Raine
Prioritise Daimon
Put daimon and Talene on front line
Feed all your resources to dame
It's just ch9 so sit back and enjoy the game
Well the problem is im doing the fodder method so they are all stuck at 100 until i get copies for the fodder xD
Is raine not good? I thought since shes a buffer she would be good and vyloris trial ends in 1 day who should I replace for her then
she's only good for bosses. use heroes that complement daimon like ferael for example
@elder sand 20 tries
Ahh ok so use her for bosses then
Thoran suck 
it does suck but its satisfying if works
is it fine to merc here
It's fine getting stuck. Use your diamonds on the 10x pull for 2700 diamonds always
She’s used in campaign too. Usually with Lucretia
Yea have been trying to get another copy of daimon so he isnt stuck at 100 :(
You have him on the graveborn wish list?
Yep
Cool, use your faction scrolls mostly on Graveborn too
Have been but havent gotten many of those only like 11 or so
Is there a place to get them
you'll get a ton in the events ahead
Ah okie ty
mostly in peaks of time
Both are good, use the one which you have a higher tier
Kk
I'm stuck on this for a few days too, i think that there is only one solution - wait for next week and beat it with merc. There is no visible way to beat it without merc lol
aight thx
speechless tryed this i think for 3hours same setup same artifacts and never worked....
maybe 5* eye helped a ton but yea goodluck with the rng
How do I beat this pls help
not saying this will beat it but try it like 10 times if its close keep going
oden
thoran
silias
daimon
izold
Hi. Help with starting lineup plz. And can you give recomendarion for update-level-strategy(all in 1hero, or mb main hero keep +10 to other etc.) Sorry for my English, its not my native
Daimon is the best one u got. Use daimon, and idk about the rest
any ideas?
Try
Rowan
Daimon
Ferael
Brutus
Thoran
ideas?
I’d recommend using raku for thoran, he carried me hard in that chapter so something like
Ferael
Daimon
Rowan
Brutus
Raku
Yup I only got his 3F like yesterday
and auto is fine for him?
I think it’s fine at that point, only started manualing in like 32
just tried it daimon dies too quickly :/
think i can rng it since thane only stays alive xd
Take feraels weapon off it can make him fear faster. Try it 15-20 times and if it doesn’t get close ask again
Yea Gluck 
did this it did it for me xd

btww @idle oriole off topic question. Should i still pick GB characters from cards?
Yes, until u have copies to ascend all 6 core GBs u keep using cards/scrolls on them. Once u have 8 copies of each u can card another faction like wilders but keep using scrolls on Gb for food
ohh okeyy :v
what would be the core gb tho? daimon thoran farael oden grez?
And Silas yea
ohh okeyy okeyy
any1 idea
help 7-16 just dropping like flies!
it helps if u can post the stage like in the above messages so we can see the enemies 
try hogan for izold and tasi for rosa
take out hogan for mishka/lyca since hes lvl 1. Can also try oden instead of rowan or vyloris
@idle oriole he was 80 but i relevelled, been trying different things.
in general u should keep levelling him tho since mishka and astar will cap at 100 and he'll be able to go further since u get his copies faster
@idle oriole used monkey mishka FL and oden myreal and lyca BL just completed! thank you
np 
thank you I only dont have hogan
You do, hes the LB tank u have at Legendary
oh sorry
Can’t get past this stage in mauler tower
You can consider putting numisu in ur crystal instead of satrana/golus/spide girl. His heal might help u since u lack a healer.
how do u have faction towers when no one's at M xd. use an A tier hero as carry, preferably kren. fodders wont help u
worked, tysm.
btw do u have a tip on how to use raku in a comp? i dunno how to make formations and your runs arent appearing(appears only in towers)
Oof this guy probably dont have good ascension options in his mauler box. Kren mythic might do it.
iirc someone said before to not focus on faction towers once u unlock em, try pushing once u got a decent hero
np, Most of the time when I got stuck i used Hybrids clears on afkhelper. Its usually the same heroes just different positions, sometimes you'd use lyca for ferael tho ig
ohh i see, thanks

for pve or pvp
depends on the carry u have
like if u have daimon , you just invest a lot in daimon and use support with him
i did that with shemirah but i think daimon is better
pinned in #classic-questions
the 'best' team with the 'best' early game carry, daimon, usually consists of daimon, rowan, brutus and 2 flex(amongst oden lyca ferael nara thoran etc)
ok thx
Help pls 😭😭
I have an ascended Daimon, and Pippa as well as a mythic + Raine. Trying to build up maulers.
Suggestions?
This is the comp I was using not the stage I’m struggling with I already lost my last run
u probably want luc backline for the crit, consider using full hypo team with her
Not sure I have enough hypo to do that cuz they kinda get one shot
luc works better if her allies die
sometimes u need someone to stall a few secs but not for long
her SI30 gives her afk/def when her allies
pls tell me if my team is good?
try
daimon
brutus
rowan
thoran
ferael
need to cc fawkes and stall athalia, maybe
thoran
brutus
lyca
daimon
nara
Hi,can someone help me please 🙏😭
@tawdry zephyr maybe talene thoran, daimon ezizh brutus
Elite Brutus it's like the best for athalia
Thank you so much !
Last one
Any ideas without khazard?
U can try this
Yeah it worked finally
@royal stag that’s what I was trying to use b4 but it just took forever to work
Probably high rng
🥳
How to beat? I tried everything I could , but ferael and estrilda keep stunning my daimon , and I can’t do any damage
Daimon is not a frontline hero.
I tried every position I could , so this isn’t my main comp
That’s why he is frontline in the pic
Help!
Did you check AFK helper?
ye, didn’t help me very much
Use it as inspiration, not just copy-pasta
lol
Also, I would suggest, educating yourself about who and what to invest in before you spend your resources.
(Who to ascend, engravings, SIs etc.)
Try putting Rowan frontline (Instead of tasi), and Silas/Mishka top-back (if they can stay alive) and Nara mid-back
Silvina pretty much destroys my backline (besides damion) and my frontline gets destroyed like 20 seconds in the battle, Damion isn’t able to survive long enough to really kill any of the enemies, would appreciate some help
is this even possible for me? 😅
Oden
Rowan
Daimon
Brutus
Ferael

Arden is boss
Not sure but u can try
Oden
Daimon
Mirael
hogan
Ferael
kk
I'm sooo stuck here. Idk what to do now. This site afk helper shows this team as #1 winner of stage but idk why its not working for me?! Instant death!
working even worse tbh :/
Nara opposite isabella would be better, also just because the clear is at the top of the page doesn’t mean it’s the best
Yea I can’t remember much about lineups in that part in the game rip
i think ive tried every lineup from the heroes i have and its just not working
hardstuck gg
Not sure how ur losing with those levels but take out ira for lyca and if u have nara swap her in for mirael
Which heros should I focus for campaign? I have a hero choice chest and the spring choice chest too
Heya! So I'm very new at this game. I guess (?) I was gonna focus on the 5 pull team maybe? What would you do with these units and would you reset anything?
Read pins in #classic-questions
daimon first
Yeah I thought so but I guess they're just too weak at 160. My daimon can't even carry the team
At most you’ll need like 161 but it still seems doable
need some advice, stuck for days, tried everything
Rip I'm short on 14k dust to unlock the cap on 160
Help
Arden is boss
what team does he need?
25-8 need help, been a struggle
Any of your hired heroes can defeat that. Why care so much
Try :
Rosaline(assigned to daimon)
----Daimon
Rowan
----mishka
Ferael(or brutus)
Err no idea. You have no allegiance bonus or any support(ferael,talene or thoran) that can assist daimon till he can get charged.(FYI Nara is unnecessary unless enemy has mehira. And e+ saves that too. Ascending her was kinda recourse waste. Jsut my opinion)
i have talene, she’s only purple tho
never got a ferael or thoran b4
Try :
Tasi
--brutus
Rowan
--daimon
Lyca
Try a few times
slaughtered instantly
Who dealt most damage on enemy team?
Heyo peeps! Here's my current line-up followed by my options:
I would be using Wukong in Respen's place, but he's falling behind my other units now and dies almost instantly.
daimon isn’t a frontline hero
Why lol i use him in frontline
from what i’ve seen and heard in this server and for myself daimon rlly isn’t a frontline hero
Swap tasi and lyca's positions and use nara in place of tasi
Practically not. You are right. As long as you do not have a line up like this he dies pretty fast
Swap tasi with nara and change positions with lyca :D
what
Oof...well then I need more help here than I thought 🤦🏾♂️😅
daimon’s alt is insane
Lyca
---brutus
Rowan
---daimon
Nara
so if he dies before he can’t even get to his ult, i would say move him back
Oh; he always out lives everyone else 😅
i die 8 seconds in
ig this is just one of those stages it’ll take awhile
i get so close everytime
then it just comes down to tasi and brutus
Sorry could not help
yo can someone help me with making a team??
What team can I do. Im stuck at 22-14
Shoulnt be for that specific area. Just a strong team
I need some help
Opponents pls
thanks
I can not for the life of me beat this arena guardian in the latest arena of trials
Someone help me with this absolutely disgusting stage
Look at the healing and defense on the enemy team
Hey! any idea on how can i beat this?
oh, thx <3
Have u read the guides pinned in #classic-questions. If you haven't then read it. It will definitely help you.
I just downloaded recently and my friend gave me his account cuz he doesn't play no more, what do I do
Restart
Are you sure this account looks decent
Nah it’s not
Create a new acc and follow the pinned guides in #classic-questions. That acc is not that good honestly. The likes of belinda and shemira arent good heroes.
Ok I will
How I create a new account
Go to ur profile > settings > choose server. Choose another server (preferably a new one).
Is a new server better than a old server
Old server means old players = you get destroyed pvp.
So a new server is recommended.
Ok
create ur own
@fiery wing thoran cheese setup for next x2 boss fights Thoran lyca, nara kelthur lorsan, eye on thoran 🙂 this for 39-12 fight 3 and 39-16 fiight 2 🙂
I know it’s early stage but it’s the farthest I got and I’m super proud. Took me over 100 tries.
nice
gwyneth carry isnt easy
I'm at a standstill here. I've tried a million combinations and it's just instant death
Do you have oden?
I do yeah. My hero list
Fml this one with 1st attempt was SO CLOSE SOOOO CLOSE but 2nd and 3rd attempt are instant death again 😭
Ahhhh dang
Stupid rng
Can you check which Oden tps
Usually when this happens that means it’s doable but it just requires a lot of attempts
I've attempted it 20 times now with the same team. How is the 1st attempt so close but the rest are instant death again?
So strange
Should i replace silas with nemora?
Who does Oden tp
Don’t bring up Rosaline to leg
Sorry for my ignorence but what's TP? 😅
Read pinned guides in #classic-questions
Teleport, the portal he opens at the start of the round
YES I GOT IT
The thing is you really need to sleep Isabelle with Ezizh in this stage
I switched own with rowan and that did it
Nice HAHAHA
Oden* 😂
Usually the estrilda stages are the hardest
My goodness. I think I retried this stage like 200 times
Im not even that much farther ahead I’m just at 24-12
Yes I freaking hate her. I mostly put Ezizh in front of her and put her to sleep but when it's her AND Isabella... I cry
I got unlucky with ferael. Only got him at epic+ and no other copies
Leg?
On the other hand I got 3 epic+ oden and Grezhul copies
Just not enough fodder now to get them to M 😭💀
Legendary
I got so much graveborn luck I have all the copies but no fodder
Why is ch22 so haaaarrdddd
Ah shit tasi very annoying

14
But i wasnt asking for rosaline
Your Rosaline is already at Leg but she doesn't need leg so you used fodder for nothing really
I know but you’re going down the wrong path if you continue bringing up heroes to legendary that you don’t have copies to bring to ascended
Ahhh Rowan needs SI 30 then once he’s behind Daimon he starts to pop off
Well im a new player i dont really know anything about heroes thank you for telling me
SI 30?!!! I'm already having such a hard time getting the stuff for Daimon 😭
Yep no problem you should take some time and read the guides that are pinned in the #classic-questions channel
Daimon only needs SI 20 don’t bring him to 30

Lmao all those graveborn copies
Yeah same have u finished the forest mania in peaks of time
Yup was the first thing I could finish 😂
Exactly the same I’m gonna bring her up to M+ cuz they said it’s fine
I'm now struggling with the last 3 chapters of peaks of time
Since I already have Rowan at M+
I’m struggling with the last 2 chapters even mercenaried lucretia is having a hard time
I just need 1 more epic+ hogan copy to L+ him and then I can use him for rowan
I’m pacing myself v slowly haha I haven’t been bringing up heroes cuz I don’t wanna regret it
Exactly! I got a really good merc Lucretia but looking like this now
The abysmal delves should be easy with Lucretia she solos almost everything
Just need to get lucky with the items
Focus on getting the icebringer and firebringer
Got this one. So good 😭❤️
I have a deal with Slycer that I can get his mercs every week lol
Oh dangggg HAAHAHAHA
Yeah the last 2 are so much harder than the rest no clue why
Also have you been doing faction towers cuz you get mythic gear from quests from climbing all the faction towers
Yeahhh I got all my towers to lv20 now
But my team basically sucks lol. Not enough resonating crystal spots 😂
Should be easy to do for you though looking at your units
So my teams are basically 2 hero at lv173 and the other 3 at lv1 😂😂
I did my max 20 stages today so tmr when the next one opens I can climb further
Yeah that’s usually how it is
And normal tower I'm at 228 now
I’m at 283 at normal tower rn
But I remember I got hardstuck at around that level then boosted up one day
Have you been doing the lost sigils event
Still stuck 😭
Yup! Waiting until last day to buy the stuff
At our point though we should just be buying red chests
Need it to bring Rowan to SI 30
Try to evenly distribute the sigils you get too
Yeah someone said that. I got 20 red chests left
Howd you get the Brutus skin?
From completing the first event I got
It was like this 'summon x amount of heros to get brutus skin'
Oh what? I didn’t get any haha
I’m just chilling rn cuz I’m stuck in campaign
Hoping for either 1 more copy of Oden so I can bring him up to A or if not I’ll bring Grez up next
What furnitures have you been getting so far
I got some pretty good furniture
I have like 4 on mishka when I don’t even have 4 copies xd
I got 1 mythic for Daimon, 2 mythic for Thoran, 1 for grez and 2 for that dude with the red face mask
For the rest all cold Graveborn tank furniture
Ahhhh I see
get 50(not sure) elite heroes thru stones, summons, and ascensions within x time
that's the wuest to get the skin for new players
Whats the best lineup for my current team? (not just against these enemies, but the best lineup as a whole)
raku doesn’t do much without +30, you have no tanks to protect daimon and no support heroes

Winning formation?
A team for pushing early usually consist of: Daimon, Brutus, 1 healer , 2 flex
thanks
Any idea ?
Any help with this
Kinda have no clue what im doing just tidbits of info that i read, are there any team comps i should be running or anything like that
helpp
These are my heroes, my current formation is Oden - Mishka - Astar - Thoran - Daimon which I'm using for everything. Is this the best I can make at the moment?
u can probably take out astar for lyca/silas/rowan. Mishka out for hogan/golus if u have them at L+
u dont have a carry yet. Dont need to focus fac towers until u have one or ur overleveled
noob question but im struggling with this alot
first thing id recommend is resetting all of your heroes at the bottom there that have levels into them, you only need 5 heroes leveled for the Crystal to work. you can dump all that excess EXP into getting 5 240 heroes
At this level, Gwyneth is not put ahead
I don't know why,but I can't beat him
He heals himself and ult every second
Help me, please 😭🙏
merc a really strong lucretia or ezizh so he can’t ult
Okay, thank you so much! ^^
np, my lucretia isn’t rented out rn either so if you need a good one you could use mine rn
Thank you! How can I rent your Lucretia? Can I add you to friends?
just friend me and you’ll see it in the mercenary tab, my uid is 121400874
Thank you
I try add you,but game says your friend list is full :(
try now sorry
I sent ^^
just use wu kong as carry till lvl 100 and read the guides as well g
Ion got him
How can I beat this? Dk if I’m doing something wrong but I would have thought L+ daimon would do everything lol
hes free from the event
Ok
What can I do?
lol
face book share ..
this game isnt hard
yeah if u want to wait for months to progress
not me, i didnt wait any months loll
u deffo pulled 4 daimons first day
okay? so u did wait months
no, keyword " ** wait ** "
im 3 days in and im hardstuck lmao
what chapter r u on
11-28
?
ok
what r u trying to say
what are ur top 5
show me
Is this possible? Every single enemy ult = instant defeat. Thane ult crits everyone, Athalia one shots everyone including full shield Daimon, Raine stun locks Daimon and crits every time and so does Belinda. Any ideas?
oh i remember that stage
thane is a pain
and athaila
Athalia consistently crits Daimon for more than a million damage :'(
I cant rlly help you, when I was at chapters 23 i had 3 asc and 2 M+ and those were my only resources
Put brutus across from Athalia. Doesn't always work, but he will likely stall her longer than thoran. You can try something like Oden instead of Nara as well, if Belinda isn't the biggest issue.
Not bad but you'll eventually change that later. Around ch8-10 ish.
Any tips?
Yes Ik I’ve got some units past where they should be, but can y’all help me with a good campaign team
And a good arena team, and a tower team😅I’ve tried looking stuff up but not sure
E raku offers very little utility. Try Hogan Thoran Fera Rowan Daimon perhaps
suggestions?
Worked Ty!
does Estrilda run up or down?
down
try Daimon 1, Fera 3, Rowan 4, Arden 5
oden teleport upper ulric to down. so there is 3 enemy in down
👌
4 heroes only?
leave brutus where he is
Suggestions?
Alna does you no good at E. I’d swap her for Lyca in the crystal
Okay will try 👍
@royal stag any help for 39-24? afk helper sugest to use athalia but i dont have her could u show me what u used
My clears for 39-24 are on my old phone and im at work rn
fera instead of nara and try to swap positions around, I’d do
lyca
brutus
daimon
rowan
Fera
any way I could beat this?
2 lineups for temporal rift, mage ranger tank and supp at lvl 34. I suck at it so I need help 😭
Silas works wonders as a replacement for astar, but why hogan/golus?
What did u guys use for 40-6
Check Formations
I did
Try this
Mishka from my experience anyways, is not great at E, plus if u don’t get more copies of her soon she’ll just be stuck there, whereas hogan/golus are relatively easy to get to copies of and are decent tanks early on
That makes sense. I was more confused over going to 2x tanks but hey whatever works!
Mb, I meant using either one or the other in her place, not both. Although sometimes 2 tanks are needed, but not that often
Am I counting Thoran as a tank or not yet?
I am stuck at 30-19, any advice on what team i should run ? And also if you have any advice on who to upgrade that would be nice !
He can work as well sometimes
It’s unfortunate u have no +30s, I’d try get Rowan>albedo to 30 asap and then 9f ainz and 3F albedo. Also getting Arthur from lab so u can run an ainz comp
I need help beating this stage I dont know what could help anymore
Gaze 1 Athalia copy
drop Mirael and Ira for fera and lyca, maybe brutus instead of thoran and swap him with rowan
don’t use fodder heroes anymore at this point except arden maybe, they r useless
How to beat
stuckie
thanks a lot ! so i get rowan to 30 before albedo , before ainz too ? and focusing on ainz for the furniture ! what about engraving and summons ? i am curreently gambling for lucretia should i stop
=si
yea, ainz is not a prio 30 for u yet. for engraving check this: =engraving use your diamonds on hcp in the tavern for skriath until he's ascended since u need his 3F to use with Lucretia +eironn. Only stargaze with tickets, not diamonds.
Engraving is a Hero upgrade method that further enhances their abilities and stats, available only for heroes once they're ascended to Ascended 1 Star.
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/609275505526439974/969587930299506728/20220429-211600.png
should i work towards making those my main heroes and reset my fodders?
was this what you meant?
I'm stuck here; any suggestions?
this is exactly what you asked for
dont reset ira and mirael, just replace them from ur formation. Keep the fodders leveled since they go to 160
Can anyone help me with this one?
Hcp ?
hero choice pull
what Dreaf said, I didn’t say reset them just don’t use them. they are just there to have rc 160
Right thx
Skriatg is the chicken dude right ? And lucretia needs to be ascended or can i stop at mythic ?
Yes hes the chicken, Lucretia starts working at M+30 but u want to get her Ascended for her furniture before moving on to the next stargaze target
wow thats a lot of stargaze tickets that i need to get ...
Yep 
do we get some often ? or do i need to buy them XD
Pretty much only through faction towers and events/voyages
Aight
Any ideas for this one?
try Daimon 2, Arden 3, Rowan 4
instinct says swaps rowan and lyca. might even drop lyca for brutus
try arden 3 fera 5
okay 👍
How to beat?
try
oden
brutus
rowan
daimon
nara
retry a bit and see if it works
if it doesn’t swap nara and rowan then swap rowan with daimon
if that doesn’t work too try lyca instead of oden, and just try that nara,daimon, rowan swapping again
Ok
Any ideas?
Ulmus is the boss
So Im stuck at level 120, 2 questions who should be on my RC (6 slots) and who should i try to clear story with as im stuck at 120
Stuxk at story 10-28 if helps
put brutus on rc then use him he is the best tank for u atm
Who should i replace him with?currently im using damon, phoenix chick, red haired healer loli, raccoon and fire witch fodder chick
@fiery wing
Idk there names yet haha
nemora
Im not using her on team
theres no fix lineup you will change most of the time
but u need more levels not just lineup
Ah ok so just try swapping around?
Yea im stuck at 120 i cant get any diamonds to summon :(
@fiery wing i was able to clear the stage ty!!
how was it
He lasted long enough for my others ultimates
Does anyone have a team for 40-6
I’m f2p on Chapter 33 and I’ve just sort of been using whatever heroes sound good, any suggestions for a specific line-up I could be using in the campaign or the arena of heroes?
Use the site
The site doesn’t work
?
Afkhelper doesn’t work when u try to see the team bothing shows
Sounds like a problem w ur device
Dozens if not hundreds use it every day. I'd know bc I helped expand it back in the day.
If you have a problem, join their disc and explain what's going on
Most of ur heroes are rly old meta, which is probably why ur still at 33 with that rc, unless ur a returning player. Anyways, stop engraving rowan, only engrave these ones first =engraving .
Next set ur wishlist to the one pinned in #classic-questions and type the command = furniture in #classic-questions to see who should be in ur furn wishlist. refresh the shop 3 times a day to buy dust, poe coins and Si emblems since u hve too much gold.
If u still hve ur swap scroll, I'd ask in #classic-questions on suggestions who to swap for since it's probably worth it for u.
Engraving is a Hero upgrade method that further enhances their abilities and stats, available only for heroes once they're ascended to Ascended 1 Star.
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/609275505526439974/969587930299506728/20220429-211600.png
satrana's a pain
this team was found in formations, but the thing that doesnt make this work is prolly tasi's banish. i dont have good enough gear for tasi's banish to redirect to someone else.
raku+gb on first team would make it impossible for me to beat round 2, and charm wont work on r1 cuz of eironn
so yeah im planning to grez 9f for the first team, or AAA for the second team even if they suck, the enemies also suck anyways
I'd still use raku in place of nara for now since the other team is pretty weak.
fera
daimon
rowan
brutus
raku
U have windbinder for charm right?
for r2 I'd take out eironn for another tank like thoran and swap them with pop or smth
yeah i have windbinder, no stars on it though
will try that, thanks
1 problem, pop is linked to thoran. do i unlink him and link him with some1 else instead/
also who's the carry on r2? so ill have a basic idea
can’t u check my clear in formations Reverse? pretty sure I used random shit for r2,
just to get an idea what could be used there
you used this formation
i’ve tried a lot of different formations but idk what to do
doesnt work for me cos tasi's banishing daimon instead of ferael after giving raku the main agil gear
Oh then ig that’s doable but just high rng. u might +20 grez and use him for r2. I honestly don’t know how he’d do at this investment but r2 is ez
oh alright, will do
tasi never banished my fera, he never had higher atk than daimon iirc. it’s just rng, u removed fera’s weapon?
nope, he still has weapon, but less AR than daimon
iirc my fera had Legendary or no weapon at all to fear tasi at the beginning
ohh i see
How do i defeat this level 😭
maybe arthur instead of eiron and rowan instead of ezizh
swap frontlines and backline a bit and see if it works
Help pls
Any hints?
is this cheesable or does the enemy lack dmg
I think gonna be annoying to cheese, u would want seirus to ult I think but at the same time u don’t want lucius to ult
Dont focus that much in faction towers. Also you dont have a proper carry.
I think pushing 60 floors or 80 early is really good, iirc it increases Mythic gears to be a faction one
Swap Brutus and ezizh, then swap ezizh and Rowan and take out ezizh for nara(give her call) can also swap out ainz for someone with good cc
Btw was ur third team for Rift Ainz comp?
yh ainz, albedo, melu, rowan, talene
Ahh icic, thx
Just wanna beat 61 so I can get the mythic gear
I see. That is quite a tough floor. You only have saveas as a carry but he wont work since the enemy also has higher lvl than him. Kren is also low ascension.
good luck with ur pushing. what’s ur other team tho besides gb?
drop Savaes and Golus I think, and put maybe tidus and skriath? try to give kren all the protection u can to ult. give him call and ur best gear
Up until now which is not very high up was some random charm team that somehow just kept winning since Raku died early on. Gonna garrison ainzbedo next week and push
Remove golus and saveas from crystal and use someone else. Preferably an A tier hero.
Ah ok, yh ainz comp is really good even with minimum investment. Melusina surprisingly good
I’m struggling with my gb and 3rd comp since grez is E and idk 3rd is just random shit with Atalene
Ur fairly high up tho no? Idk I think charm + atalene for a third team is pretty gud tho.
it’s just my beacons level that got me there. Nice tho might try charm, is it rowan, Atalene, 2 healers and mehira?
I just wanna push to 300 for sg cards and dip, cba to build 4th team
I think I was just using mehira atalene and whoever wasn’t dead 💀. Rowan u can probably leave in ainz comp.
Yea same lol
that works too xd, try
Skreg, mishka, Atalene, rosa, desira
my mishka 203, rosa +10 only ig, it’s the worst comp out of the 3 but works pretty well if u don’t matchup against troublesome enemies
Ahh nice, alright thx
Hey guys. Any tips and suggestions on how to clear this 22-26?
try swap totem guy with brutus
Ok 👍🏼
Cleared it with Brutus at that space and added Eironn, Thx 🙏🏼
nice
ideas? should i garrison ainzbedo to make these easier?
I still havent used ainzbedo, its up to u tho. I didnt need to seperate raku nd daimon that whole chapter until the end maybe. If u have enough investment for ainzbedo then i mean go for it
problem is i dont have investments, im wondering if i could just wing it
do u have pop?
U can link him to someone else if hes locked and use him since I think he helped me a fair bit
yea dont garrison AA yet
hey reverse mind if i add u ingame?
put ferael in crystal, he should be the next gb ascend when u get the food imo. then u can try
oden
rowan
daimon
brutus
ferael
What does gb mean?
graveborn
Oh I can’t wait to get my first ascended
I got 40 scrolls of faction and today at 8 will be graveborn wish me luck
gluck 
call on rowan daimon, eye on oden ferael
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Is this how lineup should be?
try replacing oden with lyca, rest is rng
can try oden or ferael for ainz
Thx
Any takers for an old veteran who's wants to go back playing the game? 😄
post ur hero box in #classic-questions if ur still on ur old account
Ulmus is the boss
try to use fera instead of lyca or Safiya.
Help pls
fera instead of ezizh and idk do u have PoP?
Can someone help me with my team?
Any advice? At all? I've been stuck here for weeks
I do but not linked
And no SI investments
This copy in AFKHelper worked with only 200s and Daimon at 240. I've done around a hundred runs now, and it doesn't seem to work for me
You don’t have to copy it exactly, try moving them a bit and see what works best
Maybe the person you copied it from just had better RNG
Yeah I guess. The only difference is a 200k heal on Rowan🤔. Will try
oden is helpful if you need a quick displacement
This is what I used for it, u can check afkhelper for other clears as well. Honestly I think grez won’t help u much there u need more support for daimon
Idk who to link to PoP
would link him to mishka for the meantime. u prolly won’t need her in campaign soon
Looking for help/advice. My charm comp never seems to work unless I have Raku in for rosaline to help end it faster.
tho if u have maybe a good dim link close to M/A, I’d wait and link PoP to that just to save 300 diams
Try brutus(barricade) skreg kren(call) numisu skriath(get his 3f).
Try replacing brutus w/ lyca to start charm faster? And you might not want khaz freezing people so put him front and remove his arti. He's just there to provide +30 effect he can die after the fight starts
I give up, can’t clear it. 22-34. Any suggestions guys ?
I used this @timber sable
My Ainz comp is being used on a different battle for that stage but thank you
I thought the freeze was part of the stall so mehira could get going?
It worked! Thanks a ton for your help!
maybe daimon 5 pull, and through random stuff with ainz
would get albedo’s SI to 20 when u can and grab reds from this event to +30 her
Need help been stuck on this for too long
And yes I'm very aware my shemira shouldn't be where she is
Never mind I got it done
I’m getting completely demolished, my tanks don’t survive long enough and Kren gets vined by Adren then dies
I'm new. What's a good line up I should focus on building
Any suggestions?
Anyone got any suggestions? I use Ainz comp for the first fight which means I can't use Rosaline, Daimon, or Thoran because they're bound to the dimensional units. I've tried different variations of the Lucretia comp for this fight for the past few days but haven't been able to do it.
luci the first comp if it doesnt have brutus
First comp doesn't have Brutus but I still haven't been able to do it with Luci
Tried both fights with Luci for a long time
do
luci
brutus
eironn
skirath
aw ezizh/or lyca
Help guys hard stuck here
comp ideas? im lost
fareal
daimon
rowan
brutus
lyca
depends on the stage your facing take mireal to 160 as a carry since you lack copies of daimon
what about tanks and support tho
again i cant suggest much since i cant see the enemy your facing not every team will work for the enemy
i mean its early game, shouldnt matter too much
then youve answerd your own question
no? im trying to figure out what are my best heroes
like ppl say oden is good but hes just bad earlygame, same with grezhul i think
mishka front mireal back mid daimon back then use supports like rowan oden lyca
oden strips enemy energy if hes able to live long enough so put him behind mishka
so i should have rowan or lyca infront?
so something like this
oden
mishka
mireal
lyca
daimon
as an example
aight ill try thanks
when do u think grezhul becomes worth using? i got like 7 copies of him
hes a late game hero that needs quite a lot of investment so early on he wont be and it will feel like a waste of being built but hes not
damn unlucky then
that account has been unlucky for early progression daimon doesnt have the copies needed nor does rowan but then again idk what ch you are
ch 12
yeah i mean just unlucky pulls then it can still be pushed but it wont be easy mireal will fall off in that ch so youll want to get hogan grez mireal and oden to level 160 then take mishka to 180 and you should be able to keep pushing but now you are kinda stuck
yh :/
keep dying to King’s Tower Graveborn Floor 60, the shemira or centaur archer keeps wiping my whole team, ideas?
and then also just general comp ideas?
im using Antandra, Saurus, Oden, Silas and Ezizh rn
copied evoo's but ive got better gear, left it overnight but afk crashed.
none of the 2 teams came close when i was observing, can anyone help me out? need to unlock PoT cos it's GB day
Help
Silas or oden to ascend first? I have grez, daimon, lyca ascended
Could I get some help? Also have rc slots to use if needed
ideas? prolly ~2k tries now, havent beaten either of the rounds
lol that’s some random comps, I have no idea how r1 went. but did u copy artifacts as well? I think thoran’s and fera’s gear kinda make difference ( fera’s weap )
yeah i did. but even if fera's fear is the problem, r2 is going pretty bad as well, none of the rounds ever came close xd. i think imma just merc here
not sure then, I remember r2 wasn’t that bad. but yh if it’s going real bad then just merc it
Can try
Oden
talene
Nara
Brutus
Daimon
@safe hazel
Ferael for daimon?
Raku should provide enough dps, although A grez would be nice here
no survivability to give raku the space to deal dmg, will give fera a try but doesn’t seem would work
was just wondering why tasi banishes daimon always, will most likely merc this one after reset
daimon is not a frontlinr hero
What do you suggest then
wym, he can be frontline, to soak up damage and ult more often
it's situational
ehhh rowan frontline might work better
Reverse you got a comp? Usually yours work first time ahaha
in that case, yeah. but you cant just say 'daimon's not a frontline hero'
cause daimon can get abolutely destroyed before being able to use his skills
situationally he can be used frontline
hes really not... it can work pvp or places where deficit is low
Should I be buying t1 intel stones from guild
yes
ofc it depends on how you placed him and what your team is, you dont just randomly place him frontline without considering the enemy and go like 'oh no, daimon died immediately, he aint no frontline'
yeah yeah i get it
Also I have mythic boots right now for intel. Should I reroll them to lbs? Currently on gb and they’re on oden
@elfin spire is pop doing anything for you? any hero you think is lacking?
that you can replace? cause oden can be good there
good displacement
yh I’d replace PoP for oden
Everyone dies before they’re ult besides daimon if behind Brutus
well thats why here daimon is not a frontline
Daimon gets ult at front line very occasionally in the comp I posted earlier, with oden over pop
check afkhelper, I used one of the comps there to clear it
yeah constantly switch up the lineup order, and pray it works