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U should post this in afkhelper tbh. Most of the clears are bad on there
just build around daimon I guess
i dont understand how to post clear on afkhelper
Ty
that wasn't for you
Oh sorry
maybe you should use ascended talene instead of ezizh
Ok
show me your heroes
not you!!!
yup alr posted
afk rewards
I get like 2m daily thats enough for 4 levels
did already everything
2m?!?!?
ainz is useless there, mishka probably isn't doing much either
That low I'm swimming in exp right now
I said right now 🤣 so when i can lvl up more it is gone at max lvl
anything I can do with this or should I just reset my heroes? getting daimon later today
stuck on chapter 5
I get instantly destroyed
Anyone got any team advice? It's been a while since I played so i forgot everything 😅
🤩
send help or genkidama please 😪
Any tips for formation?
need advice guys very hard time
I'm on chapter 37 and looking for another PvE team to replace my Izold team. (Any suggestions on my other teams is appreciated too)
I will have Merlin to add to my aniz team soon.
My alna team was struggling before I decided to not use izod (let me move Silas and oden to this team)
Raku works pretty well, i have to swap around CC and tank heros for some stages
Never had a problem with 5 pull lucretia
lastly what do i use my T4 izold for now XD
🤪🤪
I dont recommend 5p for pvp 
sorry I should have clarified this is for PvE only
oh pve?
yes sorry, should have said that
oh wait mb I forgot I'll try and help now
nvm
haha ty 😄
just started 37
here u go, all the meta teams used ever used in campaign
awesome, ill look to see what im closest to
they are 230~ deficit if worked on
I'm at a loss to what I should do
click Battle and pray to RNGesus 
jus dm if u want minimal and optimal investments
I mean I can even rent a hero if need be
I just have no idea how to deal with all this greenery
if athalia is insta killing desira and ulting, you could switch thoran and desira. Other then that im not too sure
need advice please want to do be done with this till reset
any suggestions? currently using shemira, rosa, and daimon on back line with estrilda and rowan up front. but i’m kinda stuck on 12-22
hewppp
you should probably make a new acc
Any ideas? This one is getting dull after a couple thousand attempts
My current line up is Grez, Peggy, Tasi, Nemora and Awakened Ezizh is there anyone better to use?
Daimon should see use, lyca will fit in many different lineups, haste is very powerful. Brutus can see use if you need to block high damage/stall for an ult. Mishka can be tossed in for CC. Really depends on what you go against, play around with what you have and see what works.
Any suggestions
what's the best team for satrana so she can carry in chapters?
Probably ferael instead of Eironn, I don't see him getting much value there. Could also drop lyca there.
Um, Satrana isn't a carry.
Any other suggestions? Both didn’t seem to work
Depends what is giving you trouble. Could try Silas over Rowan. Otherwise, when all else fails, throw more tries at it until luck runs in your favor with cc
should i reset all my heroes and invest in fodder/daimon?
Passed the other one, but now stuck on this one
Got this comp, and I just unlocked Daimon, who should I change out in my comp for him?
play the game
Stop making L heroes and read the guides in pins #classic-questions. Also Daimon is so strong as a carry.
I’ve already stopped that, but thank you for the advice! :)
anyone got a good up to date resource for top teams for pvp with whales? I'm just curious and although I can catch a good glimpse from the top 16 in champion's league, it's hard to collate it all, just wondering if someone has done it recently?
i managed to fight til the last stage(tryna get windbinder for my future ainz). any ideas on how to counter this flora, literally kills my team in 10 seconds
should i just aezizh it?
khazard's also troublesome
Nevermind, I got it! (or got lucky lol)
Saw this clear on afkhelper, but tasi is so annoying
what kind of rng that lets me kill her? she always escape my ult
idk try putting lorsan on eironn
big thing is that u gotta stop the eironn from sucky while stalling so shemira doesn't ult and murder everyone. I would try and use Raku considering that you have him si30, or even the awakened thane with his new ability
shemira’s ult ain’t an issue, I managed to kill everyone with one ult but it’s tasi who always escape it
I think her teleport isn’t an rng thing right? but has a cooldown instead so idk
when i did thoran cheese in a tasi stage, it's the rng that makes tasi teleport to thoran right before thoran casts ult 2(dunno why she teleports to her death but..)
ig I’ll keep retrying a bit then ty
try
rowan
-daimon
nara/aezizh
-brutus
ferael
or
daimon brutus
ferael rowan lyca
I'm stuck at 21-60 anyone I could hire to help me with the level I can get 1 more out or just any lineups I could use
31-60 im hoping
Hm?
huh, top boxes dont match your heros
Yeah those are my mentors that I can hire

do you have nara?
Damn I'm there now 💀
Elite Nara yes
alright try this like if its close keep retrying
oden
brutus
silas
daimon
nara
Aight thx
Can also try pulling nemora if her charm/sustain ends up being a bigger problem than arden cc, but arden prob is the bigger one
I did it tyty

What am I doing wrong for this cheese thoran never gets to an ult
That’s the team I copied
my guess your thorans gear is over leveled
Okay it’s now under lv at t1 no * but like he still isn’t really getting an ult I saw a team where they used pippa over someone else’s
all i can say is its thoran cheese it could be done in a few tries or a few hours of auto battle from what ive heard im not at a high enough defecit to use it
Iv gone to this one but am worried because I don’t have A the other gb guy
Lineup?
Any suggestions
try nara to hook tasi, u might need lyca so swap out shem if so
u r over leveled for that stage so anything can work tbh just to support daimon
Whats nara
Wait nvm i found her, thx
Suggestions?
try swap pop with ferael
if ur ferael fear first then swap nara with rowan
if thoran die too fast swap w brutus
Put Daimon behind tasi and switch kren and silas spot
like this?
Yeah
alright thanks
If it helps np
Ong
Any advice?
hard stage, u can try using thoran cheese(took me ~250 tries)
i got it somehow!!
with the comp in the pic, but some position swaps
@silent moss any ideas where I am going wrong
Iv not been watching the whole time but thoran just can’t get an ult ffs I am so over this cheese
What is the full team for thoran cheese?
it varies from team to team
you probably need these heroes tho
bunny guy, kelthur, nara, eironn, rowan, brutus and co
co?
the good part is they only serve 1 purpose so they work at e+
and other heroes(that are used less often, like athalia maybe not sure)
I believe i have all of them at e+ or higher, so might start using it if i get hardstuck
I see thanks
29-60 now, damn it looks rough
i strongly suggest using a merc there
Gonna give it like 20-30 tries then merc it
2960 is the stage that people failed the most, i tried using a comp for 2 hours and didnt even get close one time
i used a strong lucretia, took me 10 times even
What was the rest of the team?
well damn, i cant really say i know what to do wo help i dont know how thoran cheese works as im still trying to get 9f on mine in fact your higher than me
i used this(prolly not the best tho), missing slot is lucretia
i got it a few days ago but i copied formation on battle 5 not knowing it would reset others i cant remember the team i used it had pippa i think
im at 39-4 and yeah your not the first to assume that, i hope you get it all i can say i hope you get it
lol well hoping worked
That team got it copied from a guy with 417 res crystal
nice congrats btw the only reason im not pushing more is becasue ive been missing core cc heros and well thorans9f
Legit 30 sec battles for the rest nearly 3 hours for thoran haha
May I see ur box and see how it compares ?
yeah ill dm it
try this only took me 15 tries
i dont have fera tho
wow u alr have thoran cheese?
nah, i dont even have si30 for thoran. it just somehow works within 1 ult
ive just been using it on hard stages since dreaf recommended it and it somehow worked
unfortunately, fera is mvp there his cc is so good even when he die
can i see your thoran?
yeah i was stupid in the beginning of my account, went thoran ascended and now i dont have food for fera, got 8 copies tho so he is next
i also got thoran ascended first. how many ascended gbs do you have?
oh so u went for everyone except ferael 
yup me stopid
lineup help please
u could always use your extra exch stuff for fod chests(i personally did). next one's coming up in 14 or 15th
my thoran is even 1 star and 20 si, idk why but i thought he was cool so gave him alot in the beginning
I think i can just chill, will get him eventually
10 e+ is 180 fodder copies.. that's around 1500 normal summons...
well, that sounds not so fun
Could try something like
Ezizh
Rowan
Daimon
Golus
Oden/ferael
hero box?
Just completed it
congrats
lucretia 203?
basically no hero is where it should be so i have no idea.
you dont have rowan/raku/lucretia/thoran at +30 and at ch33 you should have more than 2 +30s
Yeah this is my main so I didnt play properly
how long does it take for new dim to come out?
How should I do this? Gonna be a tough chapter I guess chap 11-12
u can try swapping thane and ezizh, does oden teleport ogi?
any ideas?
there's no exact date but there is a rumor that dim's come out after isles of gold(based on what happened before) so it's possible for a new dim to come out soon
ok thks!
Help
GoT is the worst thing in this game, damn annoying
any thoughts? the timer ends and it still 5 vs 5
I have dmg reduction for agility and int so kinda stuck with tanks
I'd recommend reading the pinned beginner guides in #classic-questions
start with this, then move on to Bok's guide
ok thanks

How can I beat this one pls ?
any ideas guys?
Oden instead of rosa
He's not tanky :/
idk if u have aezizh but u can try him instead of fawkes as well
backline not front
daimon
thoran
aezizh/nara
Lucius
oden
u can swap lucius out for lyca and swap daimon and oden positions or tanks’ positions
I don't have aezizh
then nara + lyca
okk, I'll try !
oden
thoran
nara
lyca
daimon
To beat a mehira, u need to interrupt her bats or charm her continuously. I recommend nara position 4. U need good boots.
I see
Any thought how to cheese this or sweep through it with M luc?
I had to use both raku and daimon for battle 1
You can try 5-pull
I tried this but no luck, swapped positions around as well. ik my luc lacking gear but working on that
Stuck in 7-36
^ I managed to kill everyone but lucius. without luc’s furn, his shield makes him damn tanky
u might wanna post the stage as well, tho idk that early just throw daimon with tanks and supports and it’ll work
who’s causing u problems from the enemy team?
middle back
then try awakened ezizh instead of Mirael
mmk ty
use eye on luc
and it might be better to luc5p r1
also shroud is good if she can't survive
luc5p this? brutus and hendrick r so annoying against my luc rn
oh ok nvm
can I get some help. This is very hard
Get your crystal up to 160 at least. That will help and is easy to do.
I have to push. I already beat the same stage 6 stages ago but forgot how
Use mercs if needed plz
try to merc alna
u can try nara for pop and brutus for thane, also putting daimon in range of rowans pots
and btw u need ur raku +30 asap, u’ll need him a lot through ch31-32
do u have a semi well built thoran cheese
Use your ainz maybe
im stuck in this stage. Has anyone a suggestion how to line up or what to do to win this one?
u can see them here in my formations, sometimes rowan isn’t needed if I use him in another formation @white patrol
Ainz instead of silas
Need team
For what
ur acc is old? bcs these Ascentions ain’t really good for multi stages
Yes
Get daimon up
Returning player
u can try to make
daimon grez thoran rowan eironn
shem brutus rosa tasi lyca
idk if this works never used shem before
assuming u r at multi stages
Ye doing that rn need one more
if not then just use daimon carry before ch31
Alr thx
Can i merc from u?
I don’t have her 
u can either try gb alna comp since u have grez 209 or
daimon
brutus
feral I think
rowan
Raku ( u can merc him as well)
I cleared it with the second team but was high rng and forgot who was middle back
thanks, oden did it for me
Is thoran a good twnk
U prolly need Brutus or ur frontline will crumble against shem or isa
Tasi is just awful rng. Try a solved clear from the site and just autobattle
Nara w boots against mehira. Bc of enemy Lyca u may need ur own lyca too
thanks. yeah brutus worked
how can i beat this?
update i beat it!
Ive been stuck on this forever could someone help
I recommend for you to start a new acc and read the guides in pins #classic-questions it will only take around 1-2 days to reach ch13 depending on how active you are.
cant seem to beat this stage, shemira's too op while tasi assassinates ppl 1 by 1. any idea?
Returning to the game after not playing for a couple years, so I’m not sure who is good or not anymore and I’m hard stuck on 20-12 and basically everywhere else as well
How can i beat this level?
nara
daimon
rowan
hogus/other tanks
arden
not sure if this will work
anyways, dont ascend anyone else to L(since u did it on the mauler girl)
reset rosaline, you only need to level 5 heroes, if u really need her, then remove some unnecessary heroes from the rc and add her
How should I beat this?
Estrilda, Rowan, Raine, Rosaline, Scarlet? @mortal mural
2 options for you:
1- Keep this account and read the guides. Helpful information can be found there like not making many L heroes.
2- Start a new account and follow the guide in pins #classic-questions. The guide will answer most of your questions.
Stuck:/
What to do?
you could try going like this: 1. Awakened Talene, 2. Grezhul, 3. Daimon, 4. Rowan, 5. Nara/Silas
Tried rotating these guys a few times but they simply die too quickly. Any tips?
Whats a good team for Raku and Kren
Ty
Try using oden instead of Lyca.
Sorry to ask here, but where can I find that info, it sure is neat
1,297 votes and 101 comments so far on Reddit
Thats the full guide
How to beat this (not using the ascended merc saurus, oden and eironn)
😊
Hi I’m in 10-23 and I m struggling a bit please on what to use on resonating Cristal to push with while i m working on heros
add nara to your rc, she works well
take daimon to mythic with your silvinas and youll be fine
Ok thanks will izold and silas + Thane work well with him or is there a better formation please ?
Is she good tried before and she seemed a bit weak maybe it’s just me I wasn’t using her properly
silias nara and daimon will give you a 3 faction buff then the last two you can use whoever for the time being when rowan gets his last copy take him to mythic asap
you dont always use her. she's only used to single out an enemy that's mirrored to her
which is, frankly, very important
you can use her to interrupt start of the round abilities like eironn pull or mehira bats or safiyah cage
Ok thanks guys
So I just unlocked ch13 what's the best formation for twisted realm boss battle?
typically for that one its
baden
scarlet
twins
grezhul
mortas
but for where your at i have not the slightest clue
Dreaf > Awakened Talene

ou could try this perhaps: 1. Estrilda, 2. Brutus, 3. Ferael, 4. Rowan/Silas, 5. Shemira
Do I upgrade his signature ?
yea to 20
Is my current lineup good? I don't know who to put there lastly :/
Read pins in #classic-questions
Make rosaline follow Daimon. Replace gorvo with brutus. Put silas for that last spot.
Thanks!
put silas in joker spot
doesnt work
any idea? or should i just autoclick it. i want to save merc for 350 perhaps
Hi guys new player here, can anyone help me with what heroes i need to for? I rly have no idea and i dont know how bad non meta heroes are
Hello @pale kettle,
Please check out the pinned messages/guides in the #classic-questions and #lineup-help channels.
Read pins in #classic-questions
No working
Any ideas for this one?
what kind of team would you make of it for campaigns? currently I'm on 23-38
I admit that I'm missing a tank
I noticed that Brutus is very good because of this shield, and the rest of the team are forest creatures?
opponents practically kill me immediately, only astar as he survives it can miraculously win
Dont make your heroes L if you dont have the copies for L+
Any ideas for this stage?
Try maybe: 1. Grezhul, 2. Awakened Talene, 3. Ainz, 4. Rowan, 5. Daimon/Awakened Ezizh
I'm in 10-19 and i cant do it with my team :
My team is : Daimon, Mirael, Silvina, Rosaline and Tasi
Team dies too fast to Niru and Tasi. Any advice would be appreciated
Same stage huh?
Same problem
Hi, I'm a newbie. I'm playing for the 3rd day, I want to assemble a starting squad to pass at least up to the 10th stage to begin with + a composition for mazes, if possible.
If you help, I will be grateful.
how can i win this? 🥴
Why is this level IMPOSSIBLE
Please read the beginners guide
it's in the pinned messages of this channel
try daimon back and rowan front ive he can tank
and put daimon behind rowan
unfortunately didn't work. guess they're just too weak
maybe put rowan in the Middle or did you alrdy tried all positions?
Pretty sure I’m just under leveled but if there is a way for me to win this some help would be appreciated
How long have you been playing? I’m currently on day 20 (lucky with draws, not so much with Daimon/Ferael copies)
Same? Look I got a private lesson to take text me privately so I know you and talk and be friends
Believe in the heart of the cards. Also, use Brutus as a tank on whichever side is most damaging. If you have Oden, he can be insanely helpful with this. Also, garrison PoP when you can. M PoP+M Rowan+M Daimon is enough to push to C22.
(PoP=Prince of Persia)
why so many heroes at L+
@gilded cobalt still cant do sh 😂 maybe to low hero Levels
Can anyone help me? Outside of the ones that are shown, I can use Nara too
Hello! I need some help with team building, my current right now seems very lacking
Daimon Alna frontline
the rest you can swap as needed
also, you have a lot of celepogeans and dimensionals but you're lacking on 4f
if you're spending money make sure to read the guides pinned in the questions channel
Is ATalene doing anything on this team? If not, remove her;
See if your Ferael is being able to cast the fear before dying;
If you have AEzizh put him in the middle instead of Ferael;
If your Grezhul is dying too fast, put a Brutus in his place.
I have an E+ ezizh and the only Brutus I have is just E haven’t gotten a single duplicate of him
Is the Ezizh awakened? If he is, it works. Brutus works with a single copy too, but only if your Grezhul is dying instantly, if he isn't it won't make any difference
Oh, you said E+, nvm then (the ezizh)
Grezhul is dying instantly so I will replace
This would probably help in case there are better options
Thoran dies instantly too, I guess. Try /
Ferael
Lyca
Eironn
Brutus
Daimon
Ferael and Eironn need to use their abilities before they die, if they can't it won't work. Lyca is there just for the haste, she will die instantly
Only reason why I had talene was to give a reoccurring distraction so enemy runs from one side of screen to the other
Are you staying alive that much time?
Sometimes not regularly, and it’s only daimon
Give the team I said a try
And should I put Brutus on the resonance crystal?
Yeah
Third try and it worked ty
Nice 😄
Now about the swap scroll, should I save it for when I have a maxed out hero or use it on Lucretia and get a powerful unit like her up rn to push further?
People usually say to hold it
save it for when you have a maxed unit falling out of meta so you can replace it for a new and op unit is what they say
Understandable. Guess I wouldn’t want to max out daimon (as an example) and then have him get nerfed and I’m pretty much stuck with a pointless ascended hero
Yeah. Nerfs don't tend to occur, tho. It's more like something much better is launched and replace a niche hero that you had maxed, for example
Try Brutus Prince Daimon Rowan Nara (remove everyone and click them in that order)
ok
who shoudl get what artifacts? cause its not really working out rn
i have call, eye , cape , and grace
Nara mid back, replace hogan for lyca, swap rowan and aezizh positions
That's why Nara is there, to try to stop her until you kill at least 2 or 3 heroes
Give it a couple of retries
I kill 1 after a while ima keep trying see how it goes
Try to record it and send it here
stuck in chapter 7, how can i beat this?
Idk why that worked but it did 🤣😭 Lyca and nara died before they could to their ultimate skill too
Glad to help 😄
Really struggling on 11-8. I don't have all the heroes I've commonly seen recommended for this state. I've got room to add to the crystal.
can I screen share to You?
Rowan wasn't giving potions to Daimon, Lyca was there just for the haste she gives at the start of the battle and Nara just needed to bring Mirael close to Daimon and stop her from dealing damage at the start
Yeah
Could you also help with this boss stage? @pale kettle
Nvm I got it by using scarlet 🙏
You can take Mirael out of your team
That team did work really well for the past 8 levels 👍
Dayum it worked. Still crazy how changing 1 hero can result in a win vs a total wipe out
Always try to see which hero can bring the most utility to your team
Your daimon can carry you pretty far with his ascension and level
so can anyone help me possibly?
Unfortunately this is really where the streak stops damn
Any clue what I should try?
swap nara and rowan
put rowan in the middle, at this stage you really shouldn't be stuck
and read the pinned guides in the questions channel
alr ty!
keep trying 😄
Good job
putting rowan in the middle changes everything lol
not necessarily in the middle, but he needs to be close to your carry (daimon)
in the middle he can give potions to everyone in the team
keep that in mind always
Here I am again. Tried putting rowan in the middle but unfortunately no luck
How is this for ch3
Try:
Old man
Daimon
Rowan
Talene
A ezizh
Also put those lvl 1 heroes that your gonna use in crystal.
Not sure what I'm doing wrong
swap daimon w safiya? and put safiya front luc back
Cab anyone recommend me a good line up form these heroes
I'll try thst
N*
Should I change something out?
only level 5 hero reset the others and read pinned guides in #classic-questions
Level 5 heroes?😃
yea only level 5 heroes u level too many heroes reset flora cecil
Oke so
I just have to level up my five main heroes right?
ye
at your stage only ascend fodders and dont make A heroes to L bcs its slow down your progression (diff case with daimon n rowan you can ascend them to M asap bcs their signature item)
Doesn't work
how many times you retry?
I use thoran as tank, daemon as carry, wukong for extra, rosaline for support
Anything I should change?
if your not stuck then your doing fine
I have like only thoran and daemon at the end half the time I do battles
10+
if your clearing stages then theres no problem right?
lineups🫤
Well, I kinda want to beat them easier, idk, just looking for advice
i see, well just keep going and follow the beginner guides in the pinned area of #classic-questions
if you want to progress the campaign id have to see the stage to help
i’m at 12-25
12-25
Any team layout advice? Just in general
can someone help me pls, im stuck
Could try: 1. Lucius, 2. Grezhul, 3. Rosaline, 4. Shemira, 5. Nemora/Lyca
thx man
Any suggestions?
Could try Brutus for thoran and oden for Rowan or lyca
It worked thanks you so much

can someone help, hardstuck rn
need some help with charmizard comp. against which comps can i use it? am i too low in stage to get them work good? is there another team comp/ carry you suggest?
What would be the best lineup here?
Scarlet, Grezhul, Twins, Baden, Ezizh (normal)
Unfortunately don't have most of those. These are my heroes
Who should I replace the GB's with? All are ascendable other than Shemira, and I have the main 7 ascended/ascendable
Hi all, i grind chapt 31/4 and now i need 2 teams 😅 i use alna/grezhul at main team. Which team should a i use (and build) for 2nd plz ?
Just started the game, what team should I use/ focus on building
Check out the pinned beginner guides in #classic-questions
Some of my characters aren’t listed on the beginner guide, do I still follow the guide using wukong and other basic chars?
yea, if u set your wishlist up correctly you'll eventually get copies of those heroes and be able to build them etc. Wukong and mirael are easily accesible carries for early game players while they summon to build better ones like daimon
Since I have daikon should i skip levelling wukong ?
Daimon
yea i think its fine
should i change my audrae for my Kren?
In the Stargazer?
What heroes should I use I started yesterday and I’m on 6th place on the world map
Ima reset the ones I won’t use
Have you read the pinned beginner guide #classic-questions
how do you still have trial thane
Probably a last minute grab
Read the pinned beginner guides in #classic-questions. Most of your questions will be answered by the guide.
What's the best team for me in arena?
At your stage of the game arena doesnt matter that much but here is my recommendation:
A ezizh
Daimon
Rowan
Mishka
Lyca/scarlet
Could you also recommend me 3 teams for challenger tournament? I've just randomly put some heroes in it 😅
1-put any lvl 1 heroes/just anything you can put
2-Daimon,Hogan,nara,lyca,thoran
3-golus,grezhul,scarlet/mirael,rowan,mishka
For the life of me I cannot pass this stage
hello, your 2nd team would probably be raku(si30)+charm/cc, it could also be ainzbedo if u have investment in them at all
Try:
Nara
Daimon
Rowan
Thoran/mishka
A ezizh
You can also try swapping the heroes positions.
Yes i will go on ainz i think but i can t atm cause link on daemon. I thought to about à alna/grez team on t1 with oden and a 2nd team with daemon core
unlink him with daimon and find other heroes. can u send ur box?
do you not garrison albedo?
if not, then uh link him with thoran, kren or saurus since i dont see their use in the comp(maybe not thoran, if you're using him in anyway)
since u dont really have a solid 2nd team, then you can use scraps ig
like rowan ainz daimon brutus and garrison albedo or get king arthur or sum
Some one advice me to not take the 2 in the same time.. i m playing since 15j atm
15j?
if you can allocate your resources properly, you should be able to get 200 dim stones a month
For Arthur i need some refresh for take him 🙂
15 days sorry
oh, you've only been playing for 15 days? ill take it that you spent some money into this game.
anyways someone told u not to take albedo or ainz because they assumed that you're still early(like ch15-20 or so), but you're in multis now so albedo is necessary for ainz comp
u could postpone it though, and have a raku comp(cheaper investment) instead or some
cos pretty sure ainz needs 309 and bedo needs 303
Lvl 309 and Bedo 303 ?
309 is signature item 30, 9 furnitures
while bedo is signature item lv 30, and 3 furns
Ok thx !
you made a mistake for taking daimon to 30 but ig it's not that grave of a mistake(would be better to take rowan to 30)
you can ask questions in #classic-questions because im not really sure, so that someone can give you a definite answer like who to take to si30 first, ainz rowan albedo or such
So first team : alna grez / silas (or solene love her) ferael Oden
2nd team: ainz albedo brutus daemon rowan ?
For si i up alna atm and rowan is +20
pretty much, but daimon and brutus can be switched out for others, not sure who though. i threw daimon in cos he seemed lonely 😂
Lol
anyways u can ask further questions in #classic-questions , i dont want to make you regret making a bad decision because of my answers
Any way, thx for helping 🙂
try swapping mishka and daimon and then hogan or golus for mishka
Awesome that worked! Unfortunately stuck at 170 now 😭💀🤣
ezizh should be opposite isabella, see how that works first
Yeah that worked!

which unit should i lv up? i resetted one thanks 😁
reset talene and level up oden and arden
so switch out talene?
can merc anyone
reset her because shes capped at 140 whereas arden can go 160
ezizh in middle backline
I know ezizh is capped, but u dont have another L+ to level up, once u get one then reset him and level that hero to 160
thanks alot 😘

ig the main problem is the Satrana but majority is the skreg
cuz kren cant ult him if he’s on my side
it’s either satran fucks my whole team or skreg does
High rng
yeah i see. i got super close but the satrana survived a lil bit too long after 2 kren ults and skreg was a sliver of hp. i’ll start auto battle
is the rng also kren ult? he hasn’t ulted once half the time in battles. i have call on him
or he ults and immediately dies
Thats Kren at his best
Just use Auto battle
Can u merc a E60 Antandra?
Put Brutus on ur Crystal for Hogan
would that change anything? his hp and defense is gonna be low that they gonna die anyways
Any teams I can make from these heroes?
Read his 4th skill
Brutus at E/E+ best tank until chapter 40
ya i justr used him and he still died
just wait till i get him to e+?
Nvm my Bad u need him at lvl 141
o rip
Drop Rowan and Raku and put in Arden and Ira
And make them lvl 141
Hey guys, I’m stuck at this stage. Is it a level issue?
I don’t know if it’s worth using my hero exp crates, I’ve been saving them all since I started
Huh I actually managed to beat it by swapping in Zolrath for the defense boost.
help please 😁
need help this is hardcore, daimon doesn't do enough damage, nemora heals and shields too much, and grezhul also shields
best team i can make rn?
Can't seem to get this stage. Anyone knows a good lineup?
use hogan as tank 👍🏼
Asdfghjjkl BRUTUS UGH
okay so I've been stuck in 41-12 for a few days now and I just can't finish the first round, my kren dies instantnly. Can someone help me
Gear and engraving
guess imma have to farm mats for kren afterall, was hoping i'd be able to keep him at T2 with E0 lol too bad
Who should I have in my team
Any other clear was with T4 gear
Tbh start new and read all pinned guides in #classic-questions
help guys Im hard stuck
I'm so stuck on this one. Can anyone help?
need help this is hardcore, daimon doesn't do enough damage, nemora heals and shields too much, and grezhul also shields
Help Ferael is too strong
yeah i can try idk if my friends have on ready i’ll check
need help please
Can someone help?
What am I doing wrong?
Maybe switch Lucreita? I just wan her to so badly work with the Eironn pull I have going
u tried Safiya instead of daimon?
and I wouldn’t use luc without +30 tbh, she ain’t a better carry than daimon at +10
Ya try this 
Please help 😭
Badens clones keep killing me and i tried daimon behond brutus but it still doesnt work
Shemira melts everyone and anyone
Got it after 279 resets and yes… I counted
Anyone can help me with this? it’s so damn annoying
I managed to clear all camps with this comp but struggling to last 2
This is the other camp, I didn’t lose any heroes so far
This good?
use Athane over arden, he will help u a lot
?
hodgkin, izold, desira
Already have them ascended/ascendable
Grave Born:
Daimon Fareal Grezhul Silas (1 Copy) Hodgkin (1 Copy) > Oden > Thoran > Silas = Desira > Izold > Hodgkin > Treznor (PvP And AE Focus) > Stars For (Oden> Grezhul > Silas > Izold > Daimon) > Theowyn (PvP And AE Focus) = Kelthur = Nara > Shemira (TR Focus) > Baden = Isabella = Torne
then just follow this ^
Anyone know a lineup for the bottom two in the new bountiful trials?
send a pic of it
Ty
numisu
talene
eironn
new hero
Skriath
it worked thank you
What should I do if I have all ascended/ascendable? Do I put the top ones back in?
idk tbh, ask in #classic-questions
I think it would be time to star hunt and some ppl put fodder there to get them faster
Oml I didn't even realize I was in lineup help, my bad
Help. Niru and Ferael wreck me. Can lock 1 down with Ezizh
Remove vyloris put a ezizh lockdoen shemira/sylvina/ferael.
That’s the problem. Whichever one I lock down, the others kill me
I’d swap brutus and daimon, try ferael instead of either vyloris or pop
Try:
A ezizh
Pop
Rowan
Brutus
Daimon
Try a few times pop needs rng to stunlock.
the same lineup above didn’t work?
Oh nvm thought u r the one who asked before xd
anyway try this ^
it worked
completely wiped them. i need to learn more about this more advanced comps
Thanks. PoP was just barely able to lock
someone?
Can i see ur hero box?
Use brutus instead of grez. Also do you have nara?
i don’t have it
I see now thats gonna be tough since you dont have anyone to counter isabella. But try:
Rosa
Lucius
Shemira
Brutus
Nemora/mehira/daimon/gwyneth
thx man
Anything worth switching out for?
Read the pinned beginner guides in #classic-questions. It will answer most of your questions and also help you have a better understanding on what to do early game.
Lol I’ve already done all that XD
Uhh you did? You're supposed to be lvling up and ascending fodders. You are not supposed to ascend someone to L if you cant take them to L+. This are mentioned in the guides.
Yeah, but I can’t change that now XD, because I did it before I read the guide
You can, actually. Just reset those the you leveled up and build fodders instead. This way your daimon doesnt get stuck at lvl 100.
Well alright
it says in the news thing
Daimon
Brutus
Rowan
Alna
A ezizh
Hmm the silvina seems to be one shotting everyone
Do you have nara?
22-36. Rowan and Daimon are SI 20, PoP is SI 10
Try:
A ezizh
Brutus
Rowan/nara
Daimon
Pop/ferael/rowan
swap rowan and daimon
try it, if it doesnt work, swap aezizh and pop with ferael and lyca
Solved 22-36, stuck on 22-42. Same units
swap brutus and daimon
replace pop with fera
Thanks, I solved it using a weird Eironn lineup
Only to immediately get stuck again. 22-44. Same units
swap brutus n daimon
swap lyca and rowan
Help
What are current top pvp teams?
22-60. Center Slot gets obliterated, rest of team falls to Athalia. Same crew as here, with an A Daimon instead of M
Experimented a bit, middle slot Brutus worked
what team comps do you use to push chapters now?
From my experience, Thoran, Daimon are a great combo!
Thanks
The mage too really great for survivability
Which mage
Yea
Oh you have the twins too!
Yea, I’m kind of new but got really lucky
Twins + Saurus should pump ur early guild boss attempts
Check out the pinned beginner guides in #classic-questions , daimon is a good start
That’s true I’m very smol learning
Any suggestions?
Hardstuck here, any tips?
Daimon, PoP and Ferael are A. All else matches the lists
try
daimon
-rowan
lyca
-brutus/thoran
ferael
any ideas? i swear normal stages are becoming harder than boss stages
Need some team comp help. I'm stuck in chp 38. Not sure what I'm doing anymore. I assume I should be able to be in much higher deficits...I have enough reds to +30 another atm. And enough cores to 30 another.
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How would the new trial hero work in my team?
I dont think its gonna make a difference. I believe the new hero needs si and furn to function but im not sure since it needs more testing.
Well I've just passed 10 levels without any difficulty once adding her to my team. Before I was hella stuck at 15-4
Her ultimate skill kinda reminds me of daimon. Once she does it, it's over lol
Hmm...maybe she can be used at low ascension. I think i saw a hp based dmg on her kit. Her debuff is good too.
I seriously have no clue how to pass this trial heroes battle. Can anyone help?
What do i use for campaign?
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Any suggestions?
Try to use oden instead of ferael then swap brutus and daimon.
belinda's dps kills daimon anyways
Athalia continues to be a bitch. Send help
ferael
brutus
lyca
daimon
rowan
u want to look for the rng that ferael fears athalia and tasi and that rowan's able to ult
Anyone?
Nara for arden, swap Nara and daimon
Close but Isabella’s ultimate just destroys everyone
How close
Very close sometimes I get lucky and she’s left alone sometimes 1 or 2 others guys are alive it’s just Isabella I need to kill her then everything’s fine
Then it might just be RNG, otherwise can try lyca or Rowan for hogan
Alright will try thanks
Ain’t no way Isabella was left at like 0.1% hp lmfao
Ripp, you’ll get it soon 
I did it thank you sm 
maybe you can swap nara with daimon and replace nara with lyca, somtimes fawkes cant coffin when ferael cc faster and remove ferael weapon
Cant go out
bro help me
swap trez with rowan? and let athalia face rowan skreg face brutus
the fawkes sometimes coffin ferael since he has higher atk rating, so that really isnt a problem
this stage is just legit hard for some reason, cant even beat it after 500 tries
belinda the problem?
oh well imma just wait for +30 raku
I get slaughtered instantly
at this point idk who the problem is
raine has insane dps(most dmg dealt)
but belinda kills everyone once she ults(if any of my teammate survives anyways)
if the fight prolongs, the tree heals everyone, outhealing my dmg
while estrilda just one shots slot 1 and 3
fawkes is also quite annoying but compared to those...
i remember clear that with brutus daimon
ferael rowan oden
(idk why but oden help a lot when e30 in my case he really perma stun enemies so they cant do anything also does a lot of damage)
help
yeah oden helps sometimes with his spam ults
i did a handful of tries with him(basically ur formation but oden is swapped with ferael) but it didnt work
also despite oden being able to live that far to cast his ult every second, somehow he deals 0 dmg(one of my stages i used him and he only dealt 250k dmg even if it looked like he was doing everything lmao)
put oden behind daimon? and r your oden e30?
can u post ur box
nope
no stars on him and i plan to engrave raku first(not sure what it does even)
i see good luck
tnx, it's gonna be a long day...
relax i afk (still doing dailies) for 3 days and suddenly can clear 10 stages in 30 minutes
do u have thoran or ferael
no 😦
are they on ur wishlist? :/
idk how good vyloris so maybe she can do something but u can try
brutus
Lyca/mishka
rowan
daimon
nara
Vedan is a pain and the mages at the back manage to make everything really low health
yw
how do i beat this
do u have nara?
rip, and eironn?
literally just got him now
i summoned 10 seconds ago and got him by luck
i see, well u can try swapping him in for scarlet, and then swapping rowan and thane
i know every enemy need a different team line up.. but i need to focus a wishlist. So.. what do you think about this team?
seems fine for now, if u dont need to use nara u can put in lyca/oden. and also swap out thoran for golus/brutus when u get them. Just dont make random heroes to L like thoran since its a waste of food.
tried swapping all 3, still one sided stomp
nvm finally won after a few retries

to L ? what do you mean with L? Should i dont go with Thoran?
=temporal
to Legendary, have u read the pinned guides in #classic-questions ?
Need help to clear this it’s my chapter stage
jeez thats a humongous point differential
I know I’ve been flowing cause my damion been an OP carry
Lmaoo I did it let’s goo
take him off ur furn wishlist and dont engrave him, +30 was also a mistake as rowan benefits more from it :/. Also dont starhunt
Help pls
hve u tried swapping rowan and ezizh
I’ve tried every possible diff team comp I think
The problem is Daimon is getting perma cced
if ezizh is opposite tasi then she wont banish straight up
I just got my Rowan to 30 just like you said and as for engraves I have a lot saved up and for furn wishlist I’ll swap him out
Yeah I figured that out but the rest just one shots everyone
Does Ulmus break shields or smth
ok can try
rowan
daimon
ferael
brutus
oden

That worked perfectly wtf
Is 11k a lot saved up? Or not worth to engrave yet
Thats almost 3 E30's
This is my box, should I still wait
u could do oden if u wanted, otherwise its these ones first =engraving
Engraving is a Hero upgrade method that further enhances their abilities and stats, available only for heroes once they're ascended to Ascended 1 Star.
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/609275505526439974/969587930299506728/20220429-211600.png
What comp does scarlet go into?
It can depend on the enemies but she can be used as a flex in Alna Grez, Queen 5 pull, or anything. There was a comp of her carrying in 40-56 in her own comp.
Damn i need alna man and queen
Im tryna push campaign but i dont know what teams i should use for multi battles or even single battles
I havnt played in like 3 months before today
that comp isnt gonna work without high investment xd
im waiting to whale after confirming who i need
I just started yst 
I see, well I'd probably do lucretia first to A 1* since she's a solo carry. but yea idrk about whaling priorities. Maybe try #classic-questions xd
really? she felt extremely underwhelming on trial
oh wait nvm that vyloris
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Ive looked at that but dont have all the heroes
Build them
Yeah, I see. But you can hold on Scarlet carry soon, since you probably have better carry options.
And this is Scarlet's Team
I can send box if u want
I also dont have mishka
This is built stuff, if it loads
Well u can use raku charm, 5 pull luc, some gb comp, Ainz, and stuff. For the last team, it's usually thoran cheese but you don't have his 30
You can use Brutus Rowan raku mehira lyca in that order
Sometimes you can replace Brutus or lyca with rosa but it shouldn't be too necessary
And whats 5 pull then if no brutus lyca
Lucretia, Skriath, Eironn, flex, flex
lyca is necessary in raku comp? im planning to use daimon there(replacing lyca) as a subdps, good idea or no?
Do you think tasi or talene is better as 5th spot in gb comp Or silas
Silas
what I've been running is Brutus/Lyca rowan raku mehira daimon
ohh ic
Can anyone help me I’ve been trying to move my form around but nothing is working
Does silas need +20? And furn?
More of a want and preffered. Remember, you can ask questions in #classic-questions
Need help:(
No
Gaze 1 copy
Cant do that rn
And get the windbinder artifact
Sweet
@royal stag
Afk.helper is ur best friend for multis
But it isnt always good with heroes I got
Could anyone help me out with that?
How to beat , I tried every formation I could , nothing works
Dw about levels
Read pins in #classic-questions
Help me out fam
Any suggestions?
try swapping daimon and knight dude(can’t remember his name)
Hogan?
yes
my charmizard is dying too fast or ulting too slow.. which comp can i put them against? my raku comp works against team 4. so i prefer not putting them against this team.
How are people beating this stage with this lineup?
I'm using the same lineup with a bit higher levels and getting wiped instantly lol
@fervent gulch retry retry retry and luck that daimon get his shield and dominate the world. also to mention he has daimon at 203 and e30.
My daimon is 203, but not e30
I guess e30 makes the difference?
Im trying this lineup now.
that lineup looks good, what if you swapped PoP and ferael though?
could be. only 20% dmg but sometimes its the difference between kill and no kill.
Tasi is such a bitch
indeed
Any help?
Ezizh is generally a backline hero, can try something like
Oden
thoran
Ezizh
rowan
Daimon
ill try it out ty
Finally did it with this lineup
It worked ty vm dude @idle oriole

athelia kills everything.. even brutus wont hold long enough (he's just e)
My wilders are mid don’t judge
I’m thinking Raku?
Who would be the best 5th for wilder tower^
raku would fit the best..
Kk, thank you
Need help making teams pls, I can't share my hero page for some weird reason so if you can help I can DM it to you
Have you tried replacing Silas with Ainz?
getting owned any recommendations are appreciated
Use A Ezizh to silence the Saveas
Ywc
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I've seen this already, I don't have those heroes ngl
I have no dim,cele and hypo built
Then ur stuck like forever

In a need of help
until now i was able to brute force through campain with low lvl deficit. now more and more the comp is important. do these comps look fine for you? is there an other comp you suggest? ch37-4
change portal party for something else
https://www.reddit.com/r/afkarena/comments/r8nr68/endgame_pve_formations_visual_guides_redorb/
try one of these
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I tried just about every line up possible I assume I'm going to need to grind more
@safe hazel who can be 2nd frontline at the raku comp if i dont have merlin on 303? i dont have mishka a yet and arthur is in ainz.
can use PoP frontline sometimes
and replace PoP with queen in your luc team
need to blitz shemira but can’t get anyone to kill her fast enough any help?
nevermind
Any thought which round to cheese? or change my thoran build?
maybe
oden
daimon
rowan
thoran/hogan
ezizh
if khasos' axes are shredding daimon move him to the top corner
Need help
23-40. Tasi and Mirael wreck me
hardstuck atm any help appreciated
is here someone with some advice for this stage? athalia kills me too fast (even 3 death buffed luc is just a oneshot :/ )
how could I make my team better?
Need to get through this 9k gems depends on it
daimon works well with brutus as a tank.
so you should get thoran brutus in front row
back row is fine imo
trade granit lvl boost vs brutus.
do you have your box for us?
if so much is on the line. perhaps a mercenary? alna for example could do a lot.
I alr used my merc:(
lyca
--------brutus
mehira / silas
--------rowan
daimon
could work. daimon need some help from rowan to get to his ult.
It’s starting to look like I need either rowen or silas to ult tbh
Nvm I got eirron in the back center and he got everyone together
any tips?
Don’t use oden in front
Have Nara pull spider girl. Daimon might need to be on the back row
got it will try it out
If you have Brutus, he might be a good replacement for awakened Ezizh
any tips?
Rowan is quite tanky. Might swap him and Daimon. Tasi is a pretty hard counter for Daimon though
dont have him sadly and lineup change didn't work out
That's kinda true, i've notice being hard countered whenever there's a tasi
If you have someone with a higher attack rating than Daimon, she’ll freeze them instead
only 441?