#lineup-help
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Went for it with merc’d raku
I can't get past this set. I have a slot on my crystal available but it's not clear that I can get past it.
oh nice gz
What characters does normal Ezizh work best with, or should I just not use him?
I use him with Thoran sometimes as an energy battery to make Thoran ult faster. In Shemira TR like Mr.Mushroom said, you should use him there. In Challenger Arena he can make a pretty decent team with Rowan, Twins, Skreg and Lucretia
Me lmao
getting quite difficult now, am i reaching my limit? been pushing from ch18 to now the past 2 weeks
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first time i borrowed her
Ok so I took a long break and have just come back to the game, except I can't remember anything about what direction I was headed in at the time. Here's my current formations including WIP ones and all my heroes. Any suggestions on what to do to get me rolling again? All I remember is that New Main I think was what I was mostly running as my main lineup
Help this stage is annoying af
yeah thats my usual swap around
I should probably lvl my mirael to cap first before the others? So that she would carry
No arrangement comes close to working, need some new ideas for 15-23. 1 crystal slot available
@gilded cobalt
Put lorsan and fera on crystal
Try
Brutus ,daimon
Lyca/lorsan/fera , rowan ,nara
@cedar relic you need damage dealer like carry hero on that level
help pls
I need help on this level any help?
Is there a way to counter brutus? He's very annoying 
put nara on rc and put her across isa to hook her
maybe try
Fera
brutus
daimon
rowan
pop/eiron or oden I don’t think he’d survive tho
it’s super rng I think tho since it’s tasi anyway
anything on the bottom side just got wreck by eirron and estrilda AND belinda one shot my daimon damn
yup she so annoying
rowan should be able to dodge with good rng, daimon might survive I think?
5th spot is pop if he can dodge
u might wanna try lyca instead of pop as well
alr ill try to push later , thanks for the advice@oblique nebula
Gl, that’s what come to my mind hopefully it works
Were u able to charm this?
damn I totally forgot xd, ig it’s the one I asked about charm vs tasi so I think no I didn’t do that
I probably did smth like
raku
rowan
daimon
brutus
fera
I’m waiting for u clear 52 tho 
tyty i'll retry spam in a bit
Hey, might need some help on this one please:) @paper minnow
Isabella is still a thorn in my side. Any help is appreciated
Try removing Rosaline and putting Ferael/Tasi.
No crystal slots. What should placements be for Ferael?
Hi, can’t figure out who to put i’ve tried several times but keep getting wiped. Any ideas pls?
ooooooh ty !! that's very helpful !!
np 
The thing is that once Isabella ults she kills everyone so try putting heroes with cc like ferael. It should be:
Nara
Daimon
Rowan
Brutus
Ferael
Hello, what is the arrangement of audrae burst comp? Thank you.
Same positioning for this fight?
Yes but you can swap brutus and daimon positions if it doesnt work. Just get rid of isabella when she's the enemy.
How do you recommend dealing with Feraels? Same tactics? Here’s the fight I’m on btw
u can try lyca instead of nara or pull the enemy’s fera
This time since its just a belinda you can try putting rosaline and removing nara. Swap nara and ferael positions too. You can also use Lyca instead of rosa.
need help with this stage pls
Try:
Daimon
Brutus
Rowan
Thoran
Mortas/Oden
You can also try switching the positions of brutus and thoran or daimon and mortas/oden.
had to try a few time but it worked, tysm
I can't kill brutus
Try swpping wukong's position with that tank lightbearer guy.
Do you have silas or desira?
Oh you can try removing rosa and putting nemora her charm might help you.
I have nemora, I'll try it thanks 
Dont forget to put nemora behind near brutus/the bottom backline.
No synergies between heroes exceot the one for hypogeans
It helps you get more dmg and health
Ye but Rowan seems to be the only lightbearer that survives, and maulers I only have Brutus, on the other hand gb get wiped by wilders
Welp I can't help you further except telling to wait until you can upgrade your heroes..
Thanks tho
Please help me
reset daimon engraving when the event comes
ferael
-daimon
pop
-brutus
flex
My Brutus is only elite though
he's used for his immunity, ascension is pretty much meaningless for him
Okay
Hi ! Hardstuck here, any help to pass this lvl ?
guys, any help with this? i have GB enhancing relics and ice bringer, fire bringer, and the poison one basically
try get a lucretia merc
ty
i have a lucretia merc right there
oh im blind lol, put brutus opposite athalia and the rest can be lvl 1 heroes as fodder for lucretia
so brutus in middle back, a lucretia anywhere, and random other 3?
yea u can swap lucretia around too, can be rng sometimes
oh that's peaks of time btw, so one try and that's it, i have the relics too etc.
before u die u can pause and retry
oh wow didn't know that, thanks

so why do people have lvl 1 whenever they use lucretia? i just checked her skills and none of it does much with dead allies
she gets buffed when her teammates die
her sig item, not her skills
ahh i see, thanks i instantly won despite my lvl 1 mortas not dying
noice
Brutus daimon grez rowan silas could work
Tough stage, you got brutus? Try maybe pop mishka talene daimon thoran
I have Brutus
Try that team I listed after that you can put brutus on rc, he works great at e+
Need help with 33-53 any ideas
Grez brutus Shemira rowan fereal/lyca or oden
Do you plan on resetting shemira next engrave reset Event? Shes outdated carry i would recommend it
Would u swap shem with anyone after resetting the engrave since she’s 309 
Yes that would be my next question if they still got the scroll
if the event ever comes back around, i've been waiting for so long, I'm definitely reseting her
You got m boots for him? Does he ult? Does someone else in the team ult?
Someone else ults too? He could be ulting and missing bc he needs more acc
they all ult
That is bad, remove all gear from them
we'll try that
So if I was to replace wukong with daimon (I have him just to lazy to take a new ss) how far should this team carry me?
@royal stag will try that also
help, no success for 50+ tries
I copied formations from other people until I hit the limit😂
try daimon front and oden back bottom
thanks didnt work good sadly
read the pins in the question channel
Read pins in #classic-questions
But making Daimon M +20 is by far ur best bet
iam right now but somebody just straight away telling me like what could possibly be strong for campaign would help
There isn't 1 team that can carry you through every stage, but read the pinned guide first to know how to level your Heroes before you mess up, seriously
You have a better starting box than 95% of the playerbase
It'd be a waste to mess it up
damn alright, didnt know it was that good.
The good stuff lies in the 4 Daimon copies - Daimon is the best early carry in the game and he gets super strong at 4 copies. As well as Brutus + Lyca, two insanely good Campaign Heroes. Ferael takes a few more levels but he's also a Hero you'd be using as your core. You're pretty much only missing Rowan and you've got the Campaign team I used for 90% of my early game
Nice. So i have read that ascending heroes to legendary like i did with kren is kind of bad, but one hero shouldnt matter that much right?
any recommendation for 115/120 level diff.. trying to finish chapter 39, but the recommendations use charmizard and thoran cheese.. And I've been playing this game for nearly 3 years and I never won a single fight using Thoran, so i'm looking for teams that can realistically work on the 5 first attempts, preferably with a 80% winrate instead of a 0.000001% winrate like thoran or charmizard
No big deal
Hes a great carry later
U tried afk.helper
that's exactly where I get these charmizard and thoran cheeze trash comp.. like I get why some ppl trying for 250 level diff would use these horrible comps byt even when I search for normal defficit, ppl still uses the stupid teams that 250 lvl defficit ppl uses
Whats ur rc lvl ?
So much fun with thoran
484 never won a single fight with Thoran, to be fair, i've only started using him recently because i've always hated that shit stain, i hate him even more now
Whats ur stage rn
39-24
there's an asshole who does that at 415 with the same team same gear, same artifacts and he calls that medium rng.. jeez, ppl pushing this game are mad
I mean my rc wac 403
I guess im even worse lol
how does your thoran look? gear? rest of team?
wait how do you get times 4 speed?
What’s your deficit?
I'm at 102 currently, I'm pushing to complete 39 so I should be around 120 by then, something like that
Charm really need t2 5* boots on mehira to work reliably
post the stage with artifacts equipped and screen of your thoran
thanks for the tip on mehira
I gave up on thoran, I did it first try with lucretia by putting some level 1 sacrificial lambs in front of her
I mean yeah thats works too
Lucretia is my go-to. I only move on to other comps if I can’t find her a spot where she lives by repositioning
i found someone who'se posted several stages and doesn't use thoran nor charmizard, shout out to Superbull
I had to finish 39 without Thoran when all the nerfs hit. Ended up using weird comps
feels like i'm just going back to the tried and true 5 teams setup
ainz, invade, 5 pull, alnagrez and god comp
any thoughts? I used raku charm with brutus +lyca r1,
ik my box is lacking a good 2nd comp but tryna work it out until my luc is M
Fym at 120 deficit any random bulshit should work, let alone charmizard, one of the besg comps atm
Im currently 39-32 with 390 rc 
You're tired with only 1h of pushing is why you cant cheese lol
And the fact that you're bad at this game
Ch20 iirc
Swap fera with oden
nvm it worked, thx
I had my first win with Thoran, but I used him as a sacrifice for lucretia.. does that count?
Can someone help me with this? I followed afk helper formations but it doesn't seems to work. I've been retrying for 2 hours
Any ideas for this level?
Thanksq
Bump
can try swapping daimon and brutus and lyca and rowan. maybe ferael for lyca as well
Yo everyone, I am stuck once again. Someone who have the time to lend me ur expertise time. I feel like I’ve tried all different combos lol .
Too much dmg going on
Doesn’t seem to be working, any other ideas?
I did it Woop woop
noice
nah my brains fried rn sry, u can try nara opposite ferael ig
tysm u helped me 🙂
noice 
Any idea? ig silvinia is the most annoying with her shield, kren can’t knock her back
I still have 2 spots in rc
nvm everytime I ask for help here, rng be on my side the next try
1 free crystal slot, any suggestions?
What is the best lineup with these heroes
This is if you need help
What did y'all run for 41-11 with pcap?
Best team from here for campaign
Any improvements I can do? Looking for a team for the long run that I can focus upgrading and stuff also who should I have on my wishlist
Have you figured it out? I have exactly the same problem
Use oden
:,)
Who else under ch 23?
Damn just beat thay shii
Whats the setup for this i cant figure it out
Is it worth using my swap scroll on anything?
Thanks bud
Anything I can do?
anyone got any idea here? either daimon dies to athalia(after athalia one shots a hero), or dies to thane(front)
even if daimon manages to survive, he'd die to athalia ult
it definitely was super rng tho
Any suggestions
daimon
oku
thane
thoran
rowan
help pls 
Is this a bad line up at this stage or is there other options I can go with
From what I have
I've been playing on an off for a year or two, but starting to get back into it again now
I only have the first tier of the legendary talene , is it worth using if it isn't higher tier compared to the rest of my grp
Stuck
Any tips?
switch she and luci
for who
for who
getting pooped on
Also whos luci
will try, thanks.
Check the pinned beginner guides in #classic-questions
you could try switch Lucius with Athane, Albedo at spot 2, Ainz at 3, Rowan at 4, Lyca at 5
is spot order from top to bottom?
ah thx
how did you do that? it worked,
get some haste from Lyca, removed Lucius and Rowan from the faction disadvantage, sometimes it's the little things that can get you moving
ohh i see big thanks
you could try go like this: 1. Estrilda, 2. Grezhul, 3. Raine, 4. Rowan, 5. Athane
It isn't letting me send the ss of my heroes :/
If it says it’s explicit content then draw some lines on it or put a filter, that usually works
Do u still have ur swap scroll
any help?
mabye try this: 1. Grezhul, 2. Eironn, 3. Tasi, 4. Rowan, 5. Lyca
Nope
Rip, I’d still reset Belinda’s engraving tho
I did Lucius

Yea fair ig it doesn’t rly matter between the 2. At least maybe belinda will do something in fac tower
I kinda f'ed up this account it's an old one anyways I have a new one
But this one is far ahead so I enjoy playing it
is that good it's my first day at this game
Read the pinned beginner guides in #classic-questions so u don’t make anymore mistakes with leveling/ascension. Chapter 6 is fine for day 1 yes
try
lyca
-brutus
ferael
-daimon
rowan
I don't have Lyca
guys any help with this?
not even at E?
Nope
rip if she isnt in ur wishlist put her there until u get 1 copy at least
nara for raine and rowan for scarlet, then swap rowan and thane
yep didn't work
do u have call on nara? can try frontlining rowan instead of daimon as well
oop nevermind, ezizh instead of nara worked
nice 👌
i have call on daimon and mishka
call on nara helps her hook faster, can take it off mishka
Which comp should i play or focus on which heroe? Currently on 7-30 xd
suggestions?
Anyone help? Used to be able to beat ainz pretty consistently with lucretia cycle now I can’t get a single win
not sure how A ezizh works but
use nara and ezizh on tasi and the mage person slot 3
front daimon on slot 1, he should be fine since silvana teleports away
My current lineup is ezizh rowan eironn daimon and izold, is there any other heroes that would be better at my lineup? Eironn always die
Check the pinned beginner guides in #classic-questions to not make anymore ascension/leveling mistakes. Generally Eironn and izold aren’t great, can replace with oden and golus
Alright, thanks
Team for this boss?
uh its not possible to ezizh and nara the same unit
i mean nara or ezizh the tasi, and nara or ezizh the mage person cos he basically (not sure if stuns) and deals dmg to everyone
you should lookout for him, i usually do fera + nara against comps like this since i dont have A ezizh
i somehow won the last one with a full tank team+ezizh and now i'm struggling with these
Does Nara/ezizh opposite tasi do anything?
who's your carry there
Thali
i won without both i think, i honestly feel like i shouldn't be this far into the campaign with my current team, everyone else who has won has atleast 1M combat rating
If ur checking in game clears they’re all outdated for the most part, these days it’s pretty normal
is it possible for me to even beat this?
Help me beat this so I can clear ch29 before misty Valley ends and get my free hero
?
Try Brutus, rowan, flex, daimon, fera positions 1-5
flex ? fera?
3rd position could try lyca, oden or thane
oh
ferael
he is only E+
his fear is nice at the beginning, also ezizh fights is always rng just try different positions
You're just using him for the Terrify at the beginning, remove his weapon btw if you have Mythic Boots on him
dont have space in rc
ic ur grez engraved and 3f, might try him instead of brutus. idk how well would it work
Take off either Izold, Thesku, Thali, Leofric, Titus or Wukong. Problem solved.
@proper relic
towers i use all , and a waste of dia
those heroes arent game changers in any faction tower lol
i have limited heroes
No you don't, if you don't believe us you can play the game however you like
removed izold
limited celest/hypo*
I climbed to 80F on Cele and 100F with A Luc/E Mehira/E Mortas only, Leofric's shit, so is Titus. Wukong is alright but extremely low Prio and you shouldn't even think about touching him rn
Play the long term. Build Alna and Luc and let them carry you. Less but stronger Heroes > More but weaker Heroes
not building them , just puuting in res to fill a spot
Have you thought of saving the spots for actually good Heroes you'll get in the future instead of filling them with trash lol
lol i can remove them
I mean you do have a lot of non-meta Heroes, there's probably nothing else you can put besides that lol
realy unlucky with celest/hypo
There's gazing with Tickets, push the 4F Towers, I got A Luc entirely with Tickets
L luc , been realy unlukcy with gazing
any help pls
You'll get it soon, just keep climbing Tower and doing Events
Daimon
Brutus
Rowan
Lyca
Ferael/Oden
hmm tks i'll try
Hi ! Hardstuck here, any advice ?
Thali is the principal carry and I want her on the team
Any suggestions?
Any improvements I can do? Looking for a team for the long run that I can focus upgrading and stuff also who should I have on my wishlist
check pins in #classic-questions and if u get an extra copy of daimon focus on him as ur carry
Also stop making L heroes early game
You could try 1. Lucius, 2. Rowan, 3. Ferael, 4. Ainz, 5. Rosaline (Rosa follows Ainz)
Should read the pinned beginner's guide in #classic-questions first
You're currently stuck at Lv140 aren't you
Yea kind of
Hey, I need help pls :/
Switch out Nara for Lyca/Oden maybe. Nara won't help much I think. If you're desperate try Daimon for carry. Switch out Thoran for Golus if he's not doing much.
Should read the pinned beginner's guide in #classic-questions to change up your levelling method, you're setting yourself up to be stuck at Lv140
Maybe also check the pinned guide as well to find out how to "un-140" yourself, you might have spent a bit too much fodder on stuff you can't Ascend to L+
Oh, thanks !
AIght will do tysm
You might wanna start spending your fodder a little wiser, you're one M30 Raku short, Charm comp would help you a lot in this chapter and you don't have the Raku to do it
I'll give it a read thanks
R1:
Daimon
Lyca
Mehira
Rowan
Raku
R2 I used Ainz comp, idk if you have an alternative
I don't have Ainz :/
I have dimensional stones but non stuff for Ainz Albedo :/
I'll wait sunday x)
@silk ibex M30?
Mythic with Lv30 Signature Item
You need someone to CC Tasi so she can't banish your carry
oh my b, is raku still good at Mythic tho? Shouldn't I just wait till I can get him ascended?
The best one is nara tho?
@silk ibex you want my box?
I find Nara doesn't quite work for Tasi but you're welcome to try
His major power spike that makes him even useful at all is +30
Thats good news cause i dont have nara😂😂
ok, if it matters, I'm trying to get Daimon to ascended and get his SI up should keep saving red chests for him or save them for raku?
Daimon can benefit from stats, but he doesn't need SI30 for a long time. Only 3F maybe, but if you made it to almost my Chapter with M Daimon I'd say start working on Grezhul. I find Daimon's no longer sufficient in these chapters, he's beginning to fall off. Though I'm conflicted cause A Daimon occasionally has his uses, and you wanna get the Core 6 GBs to A anyway.
ok, so I should start building Raku then?
and then kind of make Daimon like a side project?
I would say finish Daimon first then go Raku, then put Daimon's Furn on your Furn WL and try to get his 3F
Daimon can be left at 203 for a long time
203 is SI20 and f3 right?
Yep, you're smort 
ty
Hey guys. May I ask for some support ? I can’t clear this 😅
Just tested it now it worked tysm
You're welcome
Try replacing either Mirael or Daimon with Lyca, for faster Ult
Hey, Thank u but it didn’t work 😅
Try retry-spamming a few more times maybe?
Idk what's happening, try identifying the primary threat, the enemy that's making you lose or causing the most problems
Any suggestions? Trying to beat ch29 before misty valley ends so I can claim free hero
I’ll keep trying
I saw a clear with
Daimon
Brutus
Ferael
Thoran
Nara
If that doesn't work you can use https://afkhelper.nax.is/campaign.php?chapter=29&stage=16
thanks, will give it a go! afk helper seems to always have teams which are lower level than mine but just stomp through stages... not sure if just luck or furn/SI/gear diff :/
I desperately need more tier upgrade stones 😦
big mehira problemo here
I think I used E+ Eironn for this?
where
which spot
Middle back
im just getting blasted
swap albedo and rowan and then albedo out for nara
okok i get some dmg on her but still getting blasted meanwhile i guess i give it a few rolls
thx
got it thanks thanks
can also replace Athane for some more cc
but if he is doing considerable dmg I'd keep him
wish he'd get me through 29 😦
need help for this one
brutus
>thoran/grezhul
tasi
>rowan
ainz
Just got a swap scroll. Who should I swap for my daimon carry comp?
save the swap scroll and don't use it for now
I have yaga, and Arthur too
yeah ik but your team composition is poor for team 1 as I suspected
you are godlike wth
for team 1 try
Athane
>rowan
mehira
>lyca
scarlet
team 2
raku
>brutus
ferael
>grez
oden
need grez and brutus to both have barricade and give oden WB
team 2 or team 1?
both
what artifacts do you have on team 1, that should be easy
If team one wins I can make winning team for 2
give mehira Windbinder
that's the reason this comp will even work in the first place and do the EXACT positions I stated, mehira should be pos 4 and scarlet shouldn't be frontline
make sure to manual raku, his ult decreases his dps and is only for finishing off enemies which isn't that necessary at low deficits
Any advice on what I should be doing? I’m stuck here
so turn off auto and manually select all alts
need to unlock that wandering baloon adventure
yh instantly ult all the others but just make sure raku doesn't ult
I'd replace silas for Athane and nara for ferael
ok
you are lacking cc characters tho tbh
the lucius shield makes it so i cant do any dmg
like what?
PoP/ferael are the big ones early and a bit later on LDV, lucius shield shouldn't be an issue if you start stacking daimon ults and have good rng with rowan dodge
Any good line ups with my heros?
@safe hazel the 🐐
nice one, now you have to work out r2 
an albedo +30 here would save the day for you
just got a round where i killed shem , but lucius shield tanked too much and time ran out
ainzbedo would've been fine but albedo +30 > ainz +30 100%, arthur here is big as well so only double garrison if you can also afford him every month
probably rng then, you might have to slightly switch up the positions and you may want to frontline daimon against thoran if he can survive there
ill try
3 more rehires then he's mine 
yea i don't think i can do double
now lets see if i can do 2
Guys?
try swap rosa and daimon, and then rosa out and mirael in
oku instead of hogan could also be useful
2 is a no
got it with silas for fearel
👍
swap rowan for A thane?
could also do
ferael
>brutus
PoP
>rowan
daimon
if rowan has good gear
Just T1
His hat has T1
Can't do his boots rn
I think I'll give up, level seems to hard I'll try again in some days
how about
PoP
>daimon
rowan
>brutus
Ferael
@heavy spade
Best attempt yet
I think with good rng it could work
what artifacts do you have on your heroes? @heavy spade
that looks good, try swap daimon and PoP perhaps
My heroes are not that bad tho right?
GG ty @safe hazel
gj 
This one gonna be hard
What is the best lineup with the people I have?
I need some help with my comps. I have two good ones (1 and 2 in the screenshots) number 3 is not great. Modeled after the daimon comp on afk.guide. I've also attached my full roster. Or am I at a point where I'm just working on levelling up and I hit a wall. I'm at 34-20.
you are 100% not at a wall, I am a lower rc then you currently in ch 36 and to an extent less heroes built you just need to get your priorities sorted out and stop engraving whoever randomly.
for team 1 swap arthur and albedo
for team 2 swap lucretia and lyca
for team 3 you can most likely thoran cheese, engraving reset your thoran and look at afk helper for pippa-less/no 5* call clears since I'm not sure what would be a good staple for you
raku +30 is EXTREMELY important for you and should be your next +30
Ok. Sounds good. Thanks!
also don't engrave anyone further and just relax, they are hard to come by and half of your engraves are mistakes that can be avoided
rowan is your next +30 after raku as well
what should my lineup be
So close to beating the chapter and getting my hero from misty valley :(
the last 8 stages are the worst, i beat it with
daimon
-brutus
eironn
-thoran(maybe grez better for u)
lyca
u already broke crystal tho so it should be less rng
is athalia in every stage? 😦
nahh
how much si investment should i give eironn?
u can check afkhelper for other clears cos mine took a lot of rng, i had 220 crystal tho. My eironn was +20 but im pretty sure ik ppl who beat it with no investment
yeah, ive been going through afkhelper, but it's all just people with furns i don't have haha
how much furn do u have for daimon
2 i think
look its not generally recommended but I dont think its the worst idea to card daimon to 3f to get u through the chapter since it is a good boost for him
yeah, maybe... would delay my grez as I have 0 furns for him
also would be gutted if i got the daimon furn and it didn't make a difference haha
cos atm i'm getting stomped
it does from my experience, my alt had no daimon furn and was struggling more than i did with furn at a higher deficit on my main
eironn pull comps at the end are always rng
29-56 took me 545 retries and the others a lot too, i'd do my best to save merc for 60
fml 😦 I just want it done before misty valley ends 💔
is the trial thane any use?
no idea tbh
Everyone gets one shot, like literally everyone. Crits everywhere and Daimon doesn't even get to ult. What should i change?
what artifact for eironn?
probably had call for his pull, but follow me and you'll be able to see it: 137464752
sorry, how do i follow you? 😅
not sure but u can try oden for ezizh and swap ferael and oden
just go to profile and it should be at the bottom of the screen
just had such a close run 😦 only had athalia left to kill 💔
gluck 
i can find people following me and a list of people i'm following (which is empty haha) but cant see where i follow people?
oh sry, i meant go to my profile and it'll be at the bottom
ah right, how do i get to your profile? x)
137464752
oh mb, i just search you in friends
@idle oriole I did it 😄
only 7 more stages haha
Noicee, hope u get good rng 
i'd say having 3frontline heroes backline and 2 supports frontline probably not the best, but check afkhelper maybe theres something there
Just looked on there, ty
what is the best line up for me
Lucretia comp is just throwing an ALucretia with a bunch of lower level hypogeans for faction bonus and just watching her level the opponents right?
need some help(nvm not letting me post images)
Ok
Luci is generally either 5-pull or invade (if you have Dual Divinity).
Been stuck here for a day or so any idea on how I can fix my line up
Nvm got that shit
lineup help pls
Chapter 4
im new
is this a good lineups?,btw im new at this game
Just lvl up the team you got now and use mishka instead of thane
still need help
chapter 4 lineup
okiee thanks a lot mate!
Anything and wukongw
k ty
stuck need help
Looks good
what's a good Isabella counter? her ulti destroys daimon
Is this a good line up Rowan is only elite same with the tank guy
should i put brutus or torne? ( for tank)
thanks!
if your not stuck it looks fine
Pls help
any ideas? theyre too tanky
usually brutus is nice since he can stall
Help me chapter 5 lineup plz
level wukong to 100 and put random heroes
if wukong cant progress further, start using mirael
check pins on #classic-questions cos i think u set your wishlist wrong
oh alr ty
honestly leveling daimon to 100 for carry is another good option
maybe second after wukong
so i 100 wukon first then daimon to 100 after?
Anything easy to break this?
you got any suggestion on the other 3?
im bad at making teams xd
yeah one sec
wukong, daimon, rowan, isabella, morrow
wukong and morrow can be replaced eventually
.
Ok tysm @noble girder
what does that mean?
What should i change doing only 94 mill damage
ezizh/bird to stop shemira's skills or something,notsure
also grezhul/saurus front
i personally used grez saurus+3 supports but i guess it would also work for scarlet
help, why raine ferael combo so annoying
Is there anyone here I should invest in?
you could try and go like this: 1. Grezhul, 2. Rowan, 3. Ferael, 4. Daimon, 5. Oden, if it doesn't work then try: 1. Eironn, 2. Rowan and same backline
aight ill try it out thanks
Might wanna read the pinned beginner's guide in #classic-questions
Do you have Twins?
anyone? :3
can try thoran for brutus and nara on tasi
too tanky still, lucius heals em all
also can i ever use Aezizh instead of nara, and in what situations would it be good? just pulled him when i tried to get 30k
oh cool i won with aezizh

what hero should I try to get in my team
it's good for now. oden and silas should be flex
lyca ferael nara and thoran(or any other frontline) could fill in
is oden or ferael better?
Yes
👊🏼 I'm using same team 🤣 my Daimon is stronger and crystal too so heroes are 160, I love that team but Daimon kills way too fast only Rowan can do something 🤣🤣
Sorry I said it here
Put Scarlet at the front with your best carry. Twins links the two frontlines together and makes them share attack ratings, that's why Grez Scarlet front is so common. Grez steals attack as the boss gets stronger and stronger which goes to Scarlet. Scarlet hits the boss harder and the boss gets even stronger. More attack for Grez to steal and give to Scarlet etc.
depending on the situation of course
i personally almost never use oden
The rest are just to increase enemy damage taken, give sustain, deal with special mechanics etc
Oohhh ok but i have a + grez is that fine?
thanks!
Nah, maybe you should try Baden for example, just so Scarlet can Ult more. Scarlet needs a high damage carry that can stay alive to be front with her
just for reference
oden=estrilda counter, or basically a portal so that one of your frontlines wont die quickly
and he also drains energy, good against isabella and such
while ferael fears and debuffs the enemy team(SI)
fears are great against tasi, arden and fellow ferael etc
I have a e+ baden that fine? Or i can rowan
Yep. That's fine
Oh wait nvm i dont have a baden I thought i had one i was thinking of my 2nd account sorry
If you're RC181, maybe try like Warek Scarlet Front then Twins Rowan Baden for now, cause you don't have a second bossing unit
You can try Mortas instead of Rowan but he takes time to ramp up
Im rc 200
Baden is just to be an energy battery for Scarlet. She restores energy the more things in front of her she hits. So with like 10 Clones running around in front of her she can pretty much Ult back to back eventually
My box as of rn
Idk if this is good but you're welcome to try Rosa instead of Baden for the time being
I need help on who to upgrade to Gold or legendary idk
No one, read the pinned guides in #classic-questions
oh ok ty

@wispy tusk okayy so what should i send? lol
your entire box
like even gear or?
like this @rugged plume
Generally you want GB fodders because their faction is really good
Oh okeyy imma claim them then
@wispy tusk Sent the whole box too for the line up help :v
And what fodder i should ascend for now
your box is not easy lol. You raised your heroes to L.
- But for now, keep raising Lyra,Thoran,Rowan,Grez, Brutus to level up your RC. While doing so, slowly raise 5 fodders to 160. They will replace Lyra and gang to level up your RC.
- In general you want your carry hero to be your highest level (20-40 levels ahead of your team), in this case you don't have, use shemira, i believe the game does gives quite a few free copies. (candy crush, peak of times,etc).
- Once you have your fodders to L+, you can cart your thoran,rowan,ghrez,brutus and level your fodders instead. Stop leveling heroes to L.
- 8 copies before you ascend, 4 copies before you ascend for rowan/daimon.
in terms of team comp..
Shemira
Thoran
Rowan
Brutus
Daimon imo
Personally would recommend re-rolling your account and reading up the pinned msgs, they really helped me a ton EDIT: i also messed up and restart, current main is like my 4th account
hope that helps
Game gives 4 copies of shem
yeah, use shemira if you really need to @rugged plume you can garrison ainz if you really have to but she should be sufficient. garrison Prince of persia first
Ohh sheeshh thank you a lott
read pins in #classic-questions
disagreed, shemira fell off meta carry
use mirael as standard carry till 160
yeah, follow @pale kettle he knows better
@wispy tusk Soo I understood most of it but I dont know if it would just be easier to re roll my account? I dont mind slowly leveling up this one but since im stuck on everything battle wise i kinda dont have a way to level up the characters which you told me since only sorses would be events and afk rewards
to me, its definitely easier hahaha. take advantage of the on-going events now imo. Sometimes when I want to roll, I'll just start a new account
@rugged plume i settled for my current account because it gave me like 2 daimons and 4 odens in day 1
Yeaa thats what im sayingg xd
Oh yeaa i would also want my carry to be daimon soo i guess imma just make account until I pull a few xd
YEAA xdd imma just settle for something comfortable, like a good carry and thats it
its not impossible to repair, but u wont lose anything if u restart either
the only thing u might have qualms about is morael and zikis but neither of them will function well at E
Yeaa i kinda i guess it would be easier to re roll the account :/
@wispy tusk @pale kettle When re rolling should i just redeem codes and finish up fast events?
yepp, redeem whatever's possible. there should be like over 100+ rolls by ch2.
redeem codes, roll, if u dont get someone u want, move on
sure u can do the events but they take longer and reroll accounts are just roll, nothing good, move on rinse and repeat
np, you dont really need to progress to ch3 imo. ch2 should net you enough. If it's not up to standard, start a new account
ch2 it is thenn :v
@wispy tusk im sorry for tagging again but how do i open a new account? xd
Theres not really an option if im missing it maybe
profile->setting->selectserver->new
what @keen rain said, you dont have to create new login IDs
Oh sheeshh easyy thank youu
yeah, they have 970+ servers, technicall you can have 970+ 'accounts' in 1 account
xdd

at what chapter do you get joyous summons? since thats free 20 pulls first day
@wispy tusk
not sure, should be by ch3 iirc. not that far off
i think it ended thoo just checked ://
oh btw, you can use Wukong till lvl 100
it's still there, i started a new account too lol
restartttt
#545919777907015684 or #classic-chat and set up the wl correctly
Could someone give me team for trials of god (highest strongburn)
did u read pins in #classic-questions
Suggestion for lineup on this stage?
I want a goo team that I could marathon the chapters just recommend a team
Please ping me or reply when there a team for me I could use
Is there even a positioning than can win me this? Or do i need to just wait for more rc lvl?
Doable
And why are u chapter 37 ?
What do you mean why. Because i havent progressed?
With ur rc u could be chapter 40
I dont have 5 reliable teams built enough. Almost there.
Good luck
:(
Swap Lucius with Brutus
i try but my brutus is poop
Brutus works at E/E+ until chapter 40
I need help whit stage 15-40 this is what i got in bag
Struggling with 5th team now, vsing all A enemies so random whatever units cant just overpower. Main 4 teams are the top 4 in saved, ainz eironn alna gb lucretia
Make Raku +30
And use Raku charm
Am trying. Out of reds atm.
And use something like this
tho you already got an ascended hero, i'd make a new account if i were you. your wishlist seem messed up and you ascended far too many heroes to M and L
Mehira gets insta popped, will raku 30 even help
Just my RNG is trashy AF
yep it's wrong
Tho can i pass 15-40 whit my current heroes?
What should my team be
Over all my favorite faction is graveborn
yes but you need alot of time to recover from your pulls/ascensions
as I said in the other channel rowan/daimon/athane/oden/raku
athane alone should carry you to around ch12
Hello, can anyone give me a recommendation for a team? Because I can't get any further with the current team. I'm f2p gamer
stop making Ls
Best team umi can make
PoP, Brutus, Ferael, Rowan, Daimon
need help on this stage pls
Nara call across from mehira, daimon middle
ferael
brutus
nara
daimon
rowan
hope rng lets ferael fear tasi and arden
tried a few times, but even when arden and tasi get feared it doesnt work
What can i do to beat this stage?
Heyy cam someone help me with a stage
Who's the most useful Dimensional hero to garrison with my current heroes....
Also Im in chap 22
And Im stuck like hard
prince of persia
Ok then
What's the best Dura item for PoP???
call
Floor fie dentist
Stuck on 25-60 any tips?
(I’ve tried afk helper but I don’t have Nara or eironn built at all
reset thoran engrave, use aw ezizh where nara is on the clears
I’ll try that Ty
Best team and postition? I just started all tips would be helpful
Can someone help me.... why everybody ignore me lol
Protect oden
Ans also Try to cc The fairy gurl...
She's annoying with her cc
At ur chapter....
Any hero can carry...
But Don't just Instantaneously Tier up any four skill hero u got...
Make use of ur Fodder heroes.....
There's a guide in the pins
I don’t know if I should grow my hair out and like Eren Jeager chop it. Or if I should get a fade.
Ye i switch the front line innposition
Yee but dont have any i can, qnd the frontline with arden i also annoying but who should i use to cc her
check pinned guides in #classic-questions
You guys are working overtime in this channel helping out people
It’s time for me to help 🤝🙌🏻
5* Lucretia
How about using tidus on the backline...
And Awakened thane isn't for Pve
Ahhh all in a days work
They focused him more in PvP and Boss
Another noob helped
Lol That's what the forum said not mine
Unless he have a plentiful buffer likw Rosaline
For his energy Recharge
Plus Im not that hardcore knowledgeable in this game...
And instead of saying Im a noob then Why won't u help then?
Because I’m a noob?
I don't believe u so...
You called me a noob and that makes u an expert
he's trolling just ignore him
Why us he trolling in this comment section?
I can't really ignore that
Im trying to help someone based on what I've known from others and that person just Called me a noob?!
Tsk
“Everyone makes mistakes in the heat of passion Jimbo” - Einstein
Like whats should i play then
What should my 2nd and third teams be for temporal rift after ainz?
I don't have Haelus or Astar which are always what people recommend
What should my team be. Tell me even if they are under leveled I will level up
pls help (. _.) wanted to make a good team with awak. Ezizh and I don't know what to do :(
Been stuck here for 5 days gl
Im rn 3 day i tought its annoying but how did you win it
I didnt
I can not for the life of me beat this stage. Any help?
anybody?
Whats the best team?
Can someone help me with a team for soren
if u have rowan
ferael
brutus
ezizh/nara
daimon
rowan
u can switch nara and ferael around
What would be good line ups for chapter 35
I’m gonna flip out if I don’t beat this right now
How do I beat this (also who ever made this level wtf bro)
What os a good Grezhul team?
Finally got him ascended and soon be 9f, so wanna put him to good use, badly need a second team for Pve atk,
Grez Brutus (Barricade) front
Oden Silas Ferael back. You can swap out Brutus for Daimon if your Daimon is tough enough
You eventually wanna have 9F Alna and Grez frontline
Put Brutus in front of Kaz so she can't dodge
Ainz takes a while to get going, you're missing something to stall for him
Can someone explain why this doesn't even come close? Not even remotely.
PLEASE help me out here
- Can't raise crystal due to missing 1 legend + hero
Need help I can’t kill Niru cuz he keeps healing at the end
did u try putting daimon in front of him?
No one have tips for my stage?
What should my 2nd and third teams be for Temporal rift? (Ainz is team 1)
I don't have heulus or astar which is what's usually recommended
Anyone done the thane guild trials????
ye it was fun figuring out the comps by myself
any advice for maraulier 387? i cant pass it at all not even with mercs from others.....its just impossible kren dies 2 fast my RC is 372 kren is 309,e 30 this is SS from afk helper to see oponents, i tryed all possible setups none work
i beat it with my antandra at rc370, you could try to find another one like this or you could wait til reset if you wanna use mine
it didnt work for me with kren either
yeah but i lack skreg and warek ....i got kren tidus numisu...and with them i tryed and it didnt work so great
you could replace them with what you have, i dont think they really did much other than maybe one hero with barricade for antandra
i tryed all possible st uff they all just die 2 fast i just hate this stage tbh....
what team are you using rn?
brutus tidus front , and in bk skriath 3f, atandara 309, and kren 309, brutus baricade tidus shroud, the all just die in seconds... dunno wtf is going on tbh
its merc one...309 no engravings
ah
tell me ur id so i add u and i merc urs
if you want to wait till merc reset you could try to use mine, think someone is using her this week already
k
121400874
sent u now fl :)@small mesa
alright accepted, ill make sure to save the merc for ya
thanks
Hi, i'm trying this thoran cheese i've found on afk helper, it appear not to work, do you have suggestions or other cheese to passe the fifth fight on the 38-48 ?
I used this @cerulean moss
Can't use ezizh but I guess it will be fine with lyca
Well, best try so far, Saphyia survived with legit 1hp
Thanks for the comp
Im looking for some help on forming a team cause i havent played in a while
so if anybody could give some advice on what i should change or work towards or even how to set up my foration any help would be appriciated
So does ascending 3 awakened hero like thane or ezizh does that give mythic?
stop making random L heroes its wasting ur food for a negligible stat boost. use brutus for estrilda and if u have nara put her opposite isabella. idk how daimons survivability is there vs kaz so u can try swapping him and thane too
Ok I'll try it and the randoms are meant to help others go up instead of feeding them other elite harder ones that could get buffed or smth
- I don't have that good of gear for Nara since it's going to Brutus and daimon but I'll try
she doesnt need gear she just needs to cc nara in the beginning, give her and daimon call
hm ok rather keep call on daimon, u can also try swapping daimon and brutus and using oden for thane or silas so he teleports ogi
Ok so I put oden in where silas is and add call on daimon? + Silas most of the time got nearly one shot if I didn't have mehira in to distract the assassin one at the back
i see i forgot about slivina lol, oden probably wont be able to portal then so leave him out. Lyca might be better and remove her gear so silvina jumps her
Okie dokie
?
Like this?
Cause I'm thinking daimon bottom where Brutus is so he can get Isabella out fast
Maybe
ogi will stomp and throw daimon which is not gud, but experiment different things and see
Okie dokie
It finally worked daimon barely got Isabella before she got to melt him with her ultimate and then took down vedan as soon as he left his bat state and I did it tysm
congrats 
And for some reason sil wouldn't stop targeting Silas so I did a few rounds with him and without and she is just bugging or something but idk
she targets weakest int hero
What should I use in AoH
Would really like some help 🙂 I am unsure of what to do with my characters and diamonds. What lineup should I go for? Should I stargaze? Should I level particular heroes?
Post ur box in #classic-questions
@idle oriole Thank you, will do 😄

Too tanky and too much dmg from lyca and root guy
replace pop with ferael
if lyca kills your rowan and daimon next, then swap rowan with brutus
you could also
rowan
daimon
lyca
brutus
ferael
depending on who athalia targets next after killing lyca
if that doesnt work, backline nara rowan ferael front daimon/brutus(interchangeable)
Suggestions?
backline rowan ferael ezizh/nara(you want to ezizh warek, unless ferael fear isnt enough to stop rat with the gun's attacks that reduces your energy income, then ezizh/nara the rat with the gun)
front brutus daimon
if rat is really annoying, slot 1 daimon ezizh warek
Any tips?
Yeah that didn't work, everyone died almost immediately
How do i deal with antandra, im not able to oneshot her and she just obliterates my ainz
I need a team, im stuck
Whats the level@magic marten
@magic marten try use oden and silas maybe, later you ened to upgrade fodders to L+ and only upgrade the fidders to max level (160) and put your team in rc to use and when u got some of your team to L+ or better you can reset a fodder and use him
Im stuck at 5-20
Wdym by fodder?
These
Does they worth investing?
Need help with this stage please
Read the pinned beginner guides in #classic-questions
Should i reroll?
No just set ur wishlist to the ones in the pins and follow the guides and you’ll be fine
drop pop add lyca swap pos of ferael and daimon so that daimon is not run over by estrilda
Hmm no
no as in not working or no as in i dont wanna try it
It's not working, welp that's maybe cuz lyca lvl 1 rn
I've been stuck on this stage for two days
u need levels for lyca, ur using it for haste boost
Ok, so i should use fodders till lv160?
Yes
Ok
pretty much stuck
daimon
brutus
fereael
lyca
oden
Would this be doable or am I too low?
Rate my team out of 10
2(assuming 10 is best and 0 is worst)
that's hard. you can come back to it later but what i did with similar enemies is group em together with an eironn or someone
1, biased cos i hate A talene abusers
bruh first try
maybe i am indeed dumb
What she's my Goddess
How is this abuse she's l + now
well i had troubles on my first week in PVP cos there were abundant people who were abusing A talene
Period,
anyways, she will fall off hard sooner or later
The might be me
no, thats rowan talene frontline
Almost worked
Warek was the last one alive and finished off my daimon
Kay worked
Just spammed it
Ty
Is this chapter from then on just gonna milk Seirus, Athalia, and Tasi combo
it'll only get more annoying sooner
I need quick help before awakened thane go pood
Stuck again (my box is in the previous message)
nvm i beat it
nara ferael or replace with lyca
Need help pls
reset the heroes outside ur crytal and put lyca into the crystal for estrilda, u can use lyca for thoran and remove feraels weapon so he fears faster, if feraels fearing tasi before her banish there then its fine, if not try
lyca
-ferael
rowan
-brutus
daimon
Why reset heroes outside crystals? 
What artifacts should I have on them?
Hey, I'm stuck here pls :/
wasted resources that u can use on ur main 5 heroes
Put some leveling resources into them because I've been level capped for a while on my main 5 heroes and needed progress on the faction towers 
it’s a waste in the long term, u will need to reset eventually. u can just put them on rc when u need them
daimon and rowan call, ferael eye, rest doesnt rly matter
Returning player, I’ve been away since the last anniversary. What should I do next and what should I focus on? Who is good right now? I am on Chapter 11.
I recommend starting a new account and setting the wishlist to the one in pins in #classic-questions , as well as taking a look at the beginner guides so u know how to play early game optimally
its not working 🤔 farael dies in one shot, tried switching lyca and farael, farael gets his fear but not working, have replayed it around 100 times
closest i get is killing lucius, but it happens like 1/10 of the time i run the stage
i see, have u checked afkhelper?
i havent, ill check it out ty
this one was pretty close tho 🤔
i see, could be rng for feraels fear then
so close 
u got dis 
thanks, i need to clear chapter 22 to get the 20 faction scroll, im 1 diamon off ascended 
i did it, thanks for all the help 

help
if i’m supposed to make a team of fodders, which ones should i choose?
Mirael, arden, Golus, Silvinia, Hogan
Can anyone give me a good Grezhul comp, he is supposed to be so damn good, but not one site I looked at for Meta comps has him in any of them
Anyway to beat this?
Pls help
Any ideas
daimon
rowan
nara
tank
ferael
based on your heroes though,
lyca
daimon
eironn(to stop the giant from cc-ing daimon)
tank(brutus preferably)
nara, if your daimon can survive for a few ults. otherwise, try other heroes
put rowan in crystal instead of lyca
you'll be needing rowan more often
lyca
brutus
ezizh
golus
daimon
ferael
brutus
rowan
daimon
ezizh
Or
ferael
brutus
eironn
daimon
rowan
So I’ll stop using the Lyca eironn cheese strat?
Can you guys help me build a team?
what's lyca eironn cheese strat? never heard of it
you mean by utilizing lyca's haste for eironn to cast his wind thing sooner?
It’s in the guide and someone told me it’ll last till chap 32 or smth
im not sure how exactly it works but ill just tell you that
eironn is usually utilized like nara early on(i think) so it's unnecessary to use him in every match
and im guessing it's to utilize lyca's haste but just like ferael and nara, there are only some cases where you need lyca's haste to quickly cast skills before dying
im not exactly sure about the ascensions on those heroes
but Golus's ult makes him super tanky iirc so people would recommend him as one of your tanks if ever you're lacking one
Changes? I';m on chapter 17 btw I got all those summons a couple weeks ago and ive gone from chapter 6 - 17 in that time
Starting is greyz lucius silas ezizh im gonna put prince instead of ainz for now
-fix your wishlist
-stop ascending ppl to L
-stop using shemira
it's mostly in the guides(pinned message in #classic-questions )
read it and youll get the gist of it
need help with this please
I just started, who to use
im not sure what your chap is
but level wukong to 100 ans he.ll be your carry in the meantime.
also fix your wishlist as per the one in the guides (pinned in #classic-questions )


