#lineup-help
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swap athalia and rowan
ok i will try
no every one died not ainz then talene revived then ainz and talene died
any other recommendations
ideally u want to keep athalia on isabella, could try thoran for talene to stall estrilda a bit longer
nope
did u only try once
, anyways can try
rowan
-brutus
ainz
-talene
athalia
other than that idk just rng
put ainz in for throan
for who?

brutus
right!?

im not to smart on afk arena
try
morrow
>daimon
rowan
>brutus
lyca
ferael is smth you're missing tho
give rowan and daimon both call as well if you haven't already
I mean you can try Rowan (if he has dodge gear on for immunity), lyca, daimon, Brutus, and Nara. If u want, swap Lyca and Brutus.
daimon dying instantly
Rowan Frontline may work, he has immunity.
do
daimon
>rowan
lyca
>brutus
morrow
no..
what happens during the fight?
screen record
is daimon not getting enough ults to kill one, is rowan not surviving, is morrow not providing enough cc?
2x for rng
try swap daimon and morrow
keep retrying, the aim there is to get morrow to cc the shem instead of nara. May require a decent chunk of attempts.
Do you have Ferael? It would help a bunch if you do.
damn
^ I'm not sure why you ascended grez, thoran and silas before ferael 
i had the copies
and you didn't fodder any A tiers to get there 
2x e+
I still wouldn't ascend silas/thoran that early
It could work, he's there to stun with his spirits.
at the start i did for daimon ,and regretted it
used L+ oden 😭


grez onli 3f away tho
:,)
currently im using oden, thoran, grezhul, silas, and lucius. is there any way i can make this comp better? when i do campaign it feels like im not doing much dmg
nah im not stuck in campaign, im in like chpter 7 lol. its just that it takes way more time than i think it should take (if that makes sense) and i think that im just not doing much dmg
okay gimme a sec
i don’t really know what order you mean but tasi just banishes daimon all the time
I assume
1, 2, 3, 4, 5. Like
3
1
4
2
5
Any suggestions?
Crazy, drofs not here anymore
Now mushoom guy is the guider
What to put for the archer guy i have everyone from core team but no archer
I really hope you don't actually trust that website for tier lists and team composition.
Im new so kinda yee
It's pretty misleading. For early game, Arden CC would be way better than Ferael. Just check the beginner's guide in pins in #classic-questions
Daimon gud (need help with formation they all just die)
I mean im 10-12 so maybe not to new
I can post here my Heroes if you want and make me team for company il apreacieate it @tight juniper
Hm, I suggest putting better heroes there. You can try
Daimon
>Lyca
Rowan
>Brutus
Ferael, if you have him off your crystal.
That's still pretty new. I'll try to come up with a team, I guess.
Ferael is ghost bow guy right? Only got him off crystal and at elite
Thx for help in advance 
Any help? Stuck all day
That's about what im running rn - the formation i have there is a joke one obviously
Yes, it could work. He's there to stun..
Hmm, you should definitely check out the beginner's guide.
You can try
Daimon
> Mishka
Rowan
> Thoran/Brutus/or any other tank
Arden
You should be focusing on ascending your fodders, making too many legendaries for your 4-skill heroes can hinder your progress. Just check the pinned guide 
Formation let's daimon get in one ult which is way worse than the grez brutus daimon rowan lyca that i have been using
Any other ideas? I tried using awakened ezizh for a while a few tries ago which seemed to change the way the battle worked a bit
What happens? Is Ferael or Shemira killing you? If so, you can use awakened Ezizh to banish one of them.
Thx

Surprisingly it seems that baden is getting the most damage out of them
Guess it's rng, just make sure Baden minions go behind Brutus.
Can smbdy pls help me with line-up? 😁 DM pls
Any help?
I think I'll just wait until i level stuff up
Oh well 😦
Hey, i just breezed through chapter 25 to almost the end of 28 using pretty much daimon and that's it
I'll chill for a bit
guys i need help on this one
Really annoyed with that bat guy in front 😩 any suggestions?
i think daimon can survive front here so maybe try something like
rowan
-daimon
ferael
-brutus
oden
do u have nara?
Yes. RC her?
yea then u can try
arden/rowan
-daimon
nara
-hogan/thoran
talene
any good lineups i can use? just wondering, for now i have oden, lucius, silas, grezhul, and thoran
you should put grezhul in the front and oden in the back
or even better thoran so grez can ramp up
i have grez and thoran in the front, then oden, lucius, and silas in back
is that fine?
Any suggestions on this? Nara doesn't help, oden too, ferael can't even use his terrorize at the start and just dies immediately in any position
Im very early game atm (Ch 9-20) and I would like to ask for help on a decent line up i could use. I've been using Daimon, thoran (FL) and twins, mirael, rosaline (BL).
Also, another question I have is: Should I level Mirael to 160, or just focus on Daimon, since i already have it at L+ and is also a carry?
feed silvina to daimon and take him to 160, should carry u for a long time just at M, take twins and rosa out an put in ferael/arden silas/oden
what about Mirael?
what you should do is reset hogan and manually level daimon, once you get another L+ fodder you can feed silvina to daimon to make him Mythic, whilst retaining rc cap
my apologies, im sort of confused due to the guide saying i should get 5 L+ fodders, mirael, hogan, silvina, golus and arden.
So, I level Daimon but DON'T ascend him to Mythic is that it?
daimon and rowan are the 2 early game characters that are safe to ascend to mythic early game since their Signature Item is extremely impactful
ah alright, thanks! What about lineup tho? does the one that Dreaf said work nicely? (i wonder how far i can go ahah)
yeah it will work better then your current one most likely, you don't really use twins in campaign
also can try
daimon
>golus/thoran
mirael
>lyca
oden
daimon survived front but still lost after multiple tries to see if it was RNG, any other suggestions?
i need to finish this soon hopefully while GB faction summon is up
in either comp, who do i give dura's grace, call and eye? o.o
call daimon, oden/ferael eye and grace can go to golus/mirael
if you have 2 call slots you can give call to mirael as well
what i dont get is why Arden in that first comp? and who do I frontline
arden early posseses great cc when the rest of the A tier heroes do not have their skills/SIF/engravings unlocked (SIF meaning Signature item + furniture) and frontline you can go thoran/lyca/golus
what about in this comp?
thoran daimon oden mirael silas is probably what he means so thoran and daimon frontline
so its ok to have 2 carries?
ideally you don't usually have 2 carries, but here it'll work fine
how far do you think this comp can take me, me being in 9-20? (sorry if im being annoying)
you're not being annoying dw, that comp with some minor tweaks can at least clear ch 12 given more levels (mirael 160 and daimon 140) pretty sure I used that exact comp on my alt just with some minor tweaks using flexes like e nara/oden
now im confused again 😂 who do i prioritize to 160?
daimon 100%, on my alt daimon was only Legendary that's why
ah oke
and as soon as I get Hogan L+ (cuz thats who im going for) i can use silvina as fodder to make Daimon M correct?
yeah
you can do it sooner if you feel as though you will get hogan to L+ quicker then daimon to 161 but I'm unsure on whether you are forcing yourself to be level capped in doing so
nah ill wait for Hogan L+
ive burnt through a lot of resources, so now i play the waiting game
ooo 1 more question @safe hazel who would you L+ first, Thoran or Oden? Thoran most likely right?
neither
you don't really want to be wasting food on anyone this early or ever to make someone L+
after daimon M/M+ I'd go for ferael A
yh save them for now
Any help please
@safe hazel i need advjce
I was thinking of just getting queen now for campain and trying her out. How big of a mistake is that?
I wanna get another dimensional so badly
Who would u reccomend besides pop at my current stage?
PoP or ainzbedo, dims aren't going to magically fix your problems tho
Maybe ur right.
So I'll get Ezio for fun
ASTA I DIDNT, U SAVED ME
ALSO SHOZLD I DO SAURUS MYTHIC+?
no, be patient trust me you will regret these short-term decisions
@heavy spade
I'll wait for more copies.
Finally got Merlin so I fully built him. I have Ezio, but not enough to 9/9 +30SI. Who should I replace Rowan with for my pvp lineup? I see some people using mortas. I have a mortas at +20SI 3/9. Worth the swap?
Yeah
pretty much stuck
@grim copper when you're going up against Brutus and you have a Brutus you always want to put them against each other
@grim copper also try Oku instead of Brutus to get faction bonus
dude i've already beaten it, check #classic-chat
@grim copper I did congratulations
❤️
Having a bonus is good but having 7 seconds of additional safe time is better
Okay I understand that because I don't know how strong your borrowed Oku is because mine didn't take any damage
at what chapter were you?
38 - 36

Mine was maxed out because I have five heroes that are maxed out
Yes use mortas instead, your lineup should be Arthur,Alb, Merlin,Mortas,Ainz. It actually is better if you have mortas behind arthur instead of ainz and always mirror merlin against enemy ainz
Well not maxed out maxed out but he came with t4 gear 30 signature item 9/9 f & E60
🐳
If you need clears follow me "starstream"
#shamelessplug
@royal stag @frozen harness ty!!
You can see what you get. Do you mean the new Event bounty board?
Brutus, oku, safiya, rowan, daimon position 1-5. Try this should work better
wdym by 1-5 im new sry
If you clear your formation you can see numbers under your heroes. So im basically just telling you in which order you should place them
help pls struggle
please help stuck for 50+ tries
Help me make a team pls
hey guys im stuck here what should i do
Daimon, silas, rowan,grezhul and rosaline
Any idea? I’d like to get this done without a merc, can suggest someone not on rc
ok ty
Merc's are reseting in 3 hours use them
nah already used them this week, and want to save next week’s for other stages if I can do this without it
Been stuck here most of today. Idk what to try
trying to complete 29-54 is horrid waiting for 29-60 to merc..
Mb I was busy
Why not try hook the mehira with nara?
So smth like rowan Brutus daimon nara ferael/pop/oden
5th slot depending on how the fight goes, iirc that stage was a macro fest as well
been using both nara and eironn trying to get the closest attempt
@safe hazel ill keep going at it though 3 more hours for 6 stages
Yh it might be difficult, check out afkhelper if you haven’t as well
@safe hazel yeah been checking out the comps on there and rerunning sadly they all 240 and i only got 2 maybe daimon will pull through, either way almost chapter 30 in 29 days is enough for me discord helped tons
end of 29 is brutal but u can do it without 240 rc, its just gonna take a while
Yh that’s solid progress, it’ll probably be brutal without 240 daimon but keep trying you got this 👍
It took me about 3 months to hit ch 31 so you’re already doing much better then me 
what can i do
swap mirael and lyca, swap ezizh and silvina, then use daimon instead of silvina
didnt work :( Vedan and Niru constantly just lifesteal throughout everything and never die
hm maybe swap some ppl around then like
rowan
-daimon
mirael
-oku
ezizh
try it a few times, might be rng
daimon kinda just gets one shot by Vedan
and then rowan gets one shot after when Vedan walks up
then thoran for rowan and put thoran in front of daimon
rowans just there for his potions, not rly needed to live long
well that was better, but Vedan is still full hp alive 1v5ing everyone
hes rlly the only issue hes unkillable for me it feels like with the healing and constant uptime with his ult
Yea he’s rough :/ if it’s just down to him u can probably get it with rng
maybe
i guess i'll just use lucretia to pass the stage for free
two shots Vedan lol
you have a lot of L's lol
so do i retry 💀💀
Im having trouble deciding my 5th unit to invest and stuck on ch 6. What do u guys think is worth investing?
I need help on this stage
who should i level up and who should be in the crystal
So I’m trying to figure out what to do. My current lineup is 3 star grez, A Daimon, A Mishka, A Raine. I have enough fodder to get another graveborn to A. Who do I do? A Thoran, A Silas, 2 star Oden, 1 star Shemira, or 1 star Ferael? Like looking at the tier list best option is Silas so I have 3 tanks and 2 supports? But I can do 3 tanks, 1 support, and 1 mage? Idk what do you think?
The best choice would be Oden imo.
Alright thank you
who do i level next
Try reading the guides in #classic-questions pins.
@modern valley what chapter are you
I’m on 29-60 atm ferael has been used in every single team comp I’ve had while oden on only certain since he gets one shot by silvina anyways
I already used oden 💀 but 22-2
Gotcha this is my graveborn box at 29-60
Well now oden is ascended but I don’t even use him
@modern valley when you do get oden built though he’s a beast
I have him with full mythic gear, but not upgraded. Rank 11 signature item @sharp prairie
My current graveborn @sharp prairie
@modern valley daimon to 3 furn + elite brutus can carry you out of your current chapter check out afkhelper website for stages you're stuck on, helps TONS
What's the best mauler tower comp? Floor 30 atm
Can I get some help?
never upgrade a hero to L, only L+.
Daimon Ezizth, and Rowan should carry p much everything which is pretty neat, nice
as for who to level for crystal and such, You should be getting L Tier heroes to L+ like Mirael, Arden, Silivana, etc. and using them as your 5 L+ to level up to have high levels
after that you would have Daimon, Ezizth, Rowan, Thoran, Scarlett, Mishka, Grezhul, Kren, and the chicken mauler in the crystal
Any advice on line ups for 32-4?
I can beat first with this line up but then get stuck on second stage
tried some comps on afk none worked so far any solution?
Is this good comp? For campaign?
I’m only on chap 7 and I’m struggling a bit. So any suggestions would be appreciated
check pins in #classic-questions
May I get some help please
Is it all beginner stuff?..
yeah
How can i get in daimond? Getting grez ar merc soon
or copy ur top 1 formation
can u merc me a shemira ?
Too tanky
Always 1v5 by the end
29-60 is nasty
i just merc shem from my guildies
40-56 r5 and this just didnt work after like 4 hours on auto, gear was same as clears, pippa just kept getting banished and i guess lives too long. halp appreciated
Any suggestions?
Oh it's tough to make a 3rd team ngl. You got investment issue like 9f grez, +30 (raku, rowan, thoran)
Yea I’m working on raku and Rowan rn
And the 9f on Grez he’s got 7 rn
Prob shouldn’t have e30 my Brutus but it’s fine
It’ll just slow me down
You can reset his engraving next patch. Also 3f on skriath can make another team
Like some scuffed 5-pull
Work on those investment then it will be easier to push
Kk
damn ok
Any ideas? Keep getting close then my diamon just gets 1 shot at the end
nvm swapped diamon to pos 3 and finally got the rng win, been stuck here for a day
Any help please?
Currently grinding this fight and getting close, but still about 1.5 ults off of the win. This arrangement seems to be the best one for these heroes. Any advice?
Also want to save merc if possible
any tips?
Eironn maybe? Succ in the units so that Daimon can get a ton of energy and spam ults?
Cant quite get a second ult off
Can try oden for arden
Already tried that still not work
If u have nara try
Talene
-Titus/Brutus
Rowan/ferael
-daimon
Nara
Is arden getting interrupted before he roots
Daimon
-Rowan
Ezizh
-thoran
Oden
Sometimes he can root but sometimes interrupted
Ok try
Mirael
- thoran
Nara
-brutus
Oden
Didn’t work but so much better then all tries i’ve done
@idle oriole help 29-60 plox afk helper no solution so far atlleast the 240 comps
I merced it but follow this id I think they had a non merc clear but it took loads of retries 139206631
Got it to a 1v1 Mirael vs Mirael
Any idea please
Nice, maybe u can beat it with rng then
Yeh hopefully
I only have to complete 2 level before i unlock stargize
@idle oriole ill give it try, I was initially going to merc it before reset but then I had to go out for kbbq and forgot lol
Rip lol
how do you follow a user?
When u go onto a user profile it’s at the bottom of the screen
ah he had a +30 raku prob why he passed itt
Ah rip 
got one , and in dia 5
I can't pass it even with luc merc, what's wrong with this stage?
maybe try not to pull with eironn?
Tried
try on afk helper
may i see your comp? and artifacts
what should i pick here
graveborn
im stuck here for a long time idk what to do
uh try level up a 5th hero soon, try in the meantime
daimon
wukong
rowan
brutus
safiya
still stuck idk
my brutus gets instanly killed
lvl up hogan or golus instead
@idle oriole
noicee 
Any help
graveborn
@idle oriole can You help my friend out? Idk either lol
He could get lyca on legendary
dont do that lol. can try something like
oden
-golus
mirael
-hogan
daimon
if pop can survive can use him too
You should always use daimon as a backline on most stages
really
yeah you usually should
I need help im on the last 5 ish levels of chap 15 and I want to get to stargazing what team would be better (my current is the top hero’s minus kren)
just mix around ur formation i did chapter 15 with wayy less mythics than u and a epic+ talene
I’ve tried but no matter what I can’t get past so maybe the talen isn’t doing much
That’s the line up
try doing top 5 minus gwenyth and use daimon instead of gwenyth and use oden as well
Oden instead of who?
talene maybe
prob daimon in where gwenyth is then switch the syringe guy (forgot his name lmfao) in front where talene would be
if not try remove him and replace with oden
I cant get any of this to work lmao
other thing is what gear do you have on your heroes such as duras artifacts, actual gear and their personal artifact thingo
All mythic personal weapon thingys are at atleast 10
And most gear is legendary to l+
ah that explains it most of mine were 20-35 and/or mythic gear for at leasst one piece
LMAO
You shouldn’t use gwenyth
Why?
She should be used with Rosaline and Arthur
So myth+ was a waste?
She alone isn’t great at all
Also I have a rosaline
Well you do need some investment on her if you want to use her, at least 20SI gwenyth and 10SI rosaline
And yes, Gwen comp is outdated right now 
Replace with tasi or Lyca is better
Lmao
also please dont call it stargazing its scamgazing you rarely actually get the hereo u put in
I just wanna use my tickets I’ve gotten from events lmao
Who am@I replacing? Gwenith
Yes
Ok
First day.
Don’t really know exactly how heroes work and what’s meta. Who should I focus on? Or who should I swap in/out? Is there a hero I really need to focus on/ focus on getting?
lol i can guarantee u will only get one copy of the hereo u choose
#classic-questions read the pins
first things first use diamon in the back
Why everyone get awakened talent from 10 pull but not me
SAME LMFAO
i got 4 daimons across 3 profiles in the span of 3 days
and i cried so fricking hard
And who should I put in the front then? Btw you can see in the pic that I have other heroes. Should I swap anyone out or in?
You got some solid hero’s tho
try put oden in the front instead
Would I expect any more from a gatcha game tho
i mean i do that sometimes but not as a standard comp
huh?
Would I expect any better rates from a gatcha game tho?
i did say try i am not a "qualified player" i had to restart my profile since im an idiot and screwed up with ascensions so hard
If your are lucky enough you may get 30k diamonds
aka extraordinary odds
just checked u didnt really say qualified or player in this disc server, anyway, point being tanks standardly go in front and then everything in the back, just something for u to keep in mind next time u try to help someone
Got lacrectia lmao from 10 star thingys
lol
first stargaze upon unlock usually gives the one you picked
Is she good at just elite tho?
Yup needs high invesment but deffinitely worth it.
Nope.
no and #classic-questions is more suited
My b
Anyone know any good f2p early game teams?
Any team is good as long as it has a carry,a tank and 3 supports.
Im not really that of a very experienced player so you can try asking the pros in #classic-questions.
Help
Is this good to strive for?
That was good 2 years ago, not anymore
The heroes highlighted in the beginner guides are what u should focus on
I’m trying my best to strive for that lol
Lucius and fawkes have pretty much 0 use outside faction tower, brutus/thoran and other supports like ferael/oden/Silas replace them . Shemira is used in 1 boss in twisted realm and is a bad out of date campaign carry, daimon is better(raku as well but needs his +30) Rosa is good for bosses but not used as much in campaign, Rowan is good tho
Can anyone tell me if this stage is even possible for me atm
ok
anyone know what to do im stuck here do i just have to wait for more fodder copies?
Help pls like ive been asking for 3 days
Try using mirael for lyca/rowan since you only have him elite
i can recover this right?
Yes
Not rlly but its fine
The reason you keep them at E+ is to save fodder so RNG doesnt fuck you over
Your acc is still good, just keep it in mind
Its only 3 L anyway
Oh i thought he was asking if he can change what he did wrong @bronze cape can you help me with lineup?
Replace brutus with daimon and switch up positions to see what works
Keep in mind to keep rowan to the left next to Daimon in all the positions
Then keeping Ezizith opposite to whoever is the issue on the enemy team (you can check dmg charts after losing)
Just imo from what i know about lineups since you have basically the same stuff i do
so what should i do now?
I mean youre fine, just be sure to follow what i said
Its just about being patient and playing it safe when it comes to ascending
my issue rn is i can’t progress since i’m level capped so would i put my L+ as my carry?
I have 1 spot on my res crystal and I’m stuck on mauler tower, who should I put on there to help Kren do his thing?
Skreg
Kk ty
Brand new server/account can you help with lineup (:
Pinned messages in #classic-questions have good pointers for beginner team building. But basically before level 100 you will just level that wukong up as high as he can go and let him solocarry
Tyty
I read it I just wanted to make sure that gold unit wasn't going to be superior to any of those but didn't want to waste resources so thank you
You mean Talene2 that you have? She is great in the 100-160 level range.
Makes sense, so I will just wait to use her till later and fallow the guide.
thank you for help (:
what's the level ppl cheese on afk helper?
you can have an E+ carry as well, it just depends who it is you have and use
I think like 240-270 or smth
That does look like a pretty small deficit for cheese, but you can always try it
could work since there is an athalia there
Do artifacts and gear on supports matter ?
If you have 5 star call they can help Thoran gain energy
Only at 4* sadly
Hey, can I have help please ?
338M gold ?
14-16, current lineup gets burst damaged too quickly. 1 crystal slot open, any tips?
shemira for ainz
rowan behind tidas , switch lyca and talen after
any help is appreciated! (:
Any ideas? Can’t seem to find a good combo here
stuck here for 2 hours
What changes should I make
I am stuck here 😭
enemy Akhira is attacking who?
daimon i think
maybe try switching Daimon with Rowan
Tidus or Titus? Also, is the arrangement like this? I still get burst down too quickly
still lost
ok, while Rowan is at that position nr 1 and Brutus at nr 2, try switching them, you could also try switching one of the backline heroes with Thesku; and definitely give yourself time and retry as many times as you can - sometimes rng can be like that
tried with wukong
that's also some idea
ah still lost
take your time, retry a lot, don't hesitate to experiment with your squad, sometimes it can take many, many retries; watch the fight closely - see who's dying, try to replace that hero, check the dmg - experiment with other heroes who can provide better dmg
oh i just won tried something else
there ya go!
yep thank you!
oi, no problem, it is you who did it
you could try switch Titus with Daimon - Daimon vs Hogan for that faction dmg advantage
Thanks for the advice, I was able to brute force it though. Any advice on this round (same data as last time)?
I'd also switch Titus with Daimon in front, get Rowan in the middle in the backrow, can also experiment a bit with Mortas' and Newlene's positions in the backrow
Any advice on who I should have in my Crystal to support my Daimon?
Currently on Ch13
Mortas, Nara, or Lyca for the 5th slot?
I'd try with Lyca first
It's going down, I was at 400M before I unlocked RC crystal
Any help with this one please?
could try something like this: 1. Grez, 2.Rowan; 3.Ferael, 4.Raku, 5.Daimon
thanks, will give it a go
really? i just assumed that was standard... i buy from shop every day, upgrade gear that's worth upgrading... what else is there to spend gold on?
reset shop 2x every day and buy poe + dust
then buy shards/emblems depending on what you need and then levelling rc + enhancing gear
i buy poe and dust, but i haven't been resetting cos i want the diamons haha
100% reset, it's worth your diamonds
but my summons 💔
you can summon and refresh shop, it costs 200 diamonds daily. Also do FR until it costs 200 diamonds
FR?
fast rewards
oh really?
mine only went up to 100, so I use up every FR?
Didn’t work with any of the three. Any other ideas?
and eventually when i've unlocked more of them i stop when i get to 200 for one set?
depends on your chapter, here is a good guide for spending diamondshttps://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/855170522793639966/917232880655163402/unknown.png
how does anyone ever build up 2700 diamonds though? surely doing all that costs more diamonds then you make as an f2p?
cos that's 530 diamonds a day no?
you get 2k+ diamonds every day f2p
wait what?
you can get a 10x summon every other day
i'm missing something then, i've not been getting that haha
where do you get 2k a day from?
you're just spending them all that's why you haven't noticed, I think Cat on Head made a spreadsheet on it
i mean we've established that i haven't been spending them haha, and i still don't think i get 2k a day... i log in, do my dailies, do bounties, claim inn gifts, do hunts and laby when available... am i missing anything?
Who should i replace for rowan or am i too early game
events/PoTs/progression play a big part in your diamond income
The tank lightbearer
you won't get 2K+ just from doing dailies/lab/guild hunt and logging off
Hogan?
Yes
well no, i do events and push campaign if i can, but campaign and PoT isn't consistent income really... PoT is limited and campaign is dependent on what you can clear
you also could put Ainz in the backline and try to nuke it with him
events is consistent income, PoTs will increase the gems you get early and campaign you will always be clearing consistently until you get to 40/41
What is PoTS
peaks of time
do you know where i can find the spreadsheet?
This game is so confusing
Ah right
Imma ask him now, I'll send it to you tmrw when he responds 
thank you 🙂
You should read the guides in the pins in the #classic-questions channel :)
I did
Any suggestions? Pos. 1 is wrecking any Carrie’s I try
Grez with barricade in front/Brutus with barricade + you have no damage in that team comp
do you have Daimon?
or Ainz or Lucretia?
using diamon for first fight
in ch 32 you should already have Ainz
use garrison for him?
yeah, but before he is useful he's gotta be si30 and 3 furn. like minimum
ah i got his furn on wishlist but havent gotten any yet
why do you not have him already? you're in ch 32
well yea, here your problem lies
invest in him asap
other than that your 2nd team comp doesn't have any damage. do you have brutus?
Brutus is mythic+ just added him to res crystal. I got kren A2 and raku A5
and why is your Mishka not in the crystal?
This is crystal right now. I just got enough to ascend her last night so hadn’t added her
try something like this
Kren/Raku/Oden
Brutus
Rowan
Mishka
Twins
do you have signature upgrade items?
get mishka to 10 at least - 20 if possible
Hey guys i haven't played in a very long time and i don't have any idea how to build a team xd
I'm stuck at this part of the story
@crisp jolt swap Tasi with Belinda, put Daimon in front, put Gwyn in the middle and Rose to follow her. place Rose where Daimon is on the pic
@desert wharf again
try something like this
Kren/Raku/Oden
Brutus
Rowan
Mishka
Twins
upgrade Mishka's signature to 20 if possible. if not, then to 10
I'll try ty
trying it now, flopping pos 3 around to see if anyone works
sometimes it takes time. look who's somewhat the most efficient. probably Oden. Also, Si30 for Oden will be a good idea in your case, since you have 9f already
yea so far best luck has been oden, get down to last 2 (rowen and safiya). just keep running for rng luck
artifacts are also important
you should ask people what to invest in btw. you lack a lot of things for ch 32 already. mainly Ainz and Albedo
beat it, thanks! yeah i really messed up my investing early on. should have payed alot more attention to guides
When do you recommend starting to garrison them? Also, do you have any advice for my 14-35?
Ainz first - always. Then Albedo, then Merlin, then PoP, then Queen, then LDV, then Joker/Ezio, then w/e what else
Got it. Should I already start investing in garrison or wait until mid game?
I don't know if things have changed. You will have to ask people who remember or been through it recently. It's been over a year for me, so might have changed
14-35. Got within about 2 ults of it, got 2 free crystal slots
Reposted bc it got buried
replace Lyca and the middle guy with snoop dog and odin
then put snoop dog on top and Rowan in the middle, odin bottom
Snoop Dog and Odin
Ah, I see. I’ll try, thanks for the help
and I hope all of these heroes have gear on
I got obliterated in less than 15 seconds. All heroes are geared with artifacts, Daimon has SI 15 and Rowan has SI 3. I was wondering if you had any other ideas
you have to keep trying mor than 10 minutes sometimes. trying swapping backline heroes with each other
Thanks for the help. Ended up putting Rosa on the crystal and getting through
What is the BEST lineup I can make with the heroes I have right now
Read the beginners guides in #classic-questions and stop investing in Shemira. Daimon/oden/rowan/prob mishka/shem or ezizh will do fine in early chapters.
Try tossing Daimon behind Brutus. You could also try to work Shem and Grez in place of eironn/lyca or rosa for faction bonus. When you get another RC slot open, I would go for Oden so you get some CC going.
Appreciate it
Also, have you read the beginners guides pinned in questions channel? Making L heroes you can't make L+ is generally a waste as you can't guarantee you will get more of them for a long time. Shem is also an early game trap- you get plenty of free copies of her, but don't invest in her.
Sorry just another quick question whos rosa haha
Rosaline (maid girl)
Ahhh ok
I know I messed up in that regard I'm tryna get some more leg plus that's why I got shem to leg plus for crystal as I had copies
The problem I have rn is not having enough resources to level up my heroes to 160
Also ty for the help just beat the level 🤝
Yeah, that is a lot of the early curve. You can progress through much of the early chapters playing around with your team and adding more to your RC. Everything in the game essentially is tied to waiting at some point, lol
#classic-questions and read the pinned beginner guides, look at the wishlist there etc. Daimon is one of the easiest carries you can go for.
Haha true I used to play the game like a couple yrs back. I had quite a good account with a couple of ascended heroes. But sadly lost the account. Is there any advice you could give me. Should I focus on getting some fodders to leg plus ?
any tips pls
I'm kinda bad at the game but maybe go like this. Daion behind brutus. Eironn mid
And rowan front
oh tks it work like a charm
Shady_AntizZz#2477
What about to make Arabic version from our precious game Does anyone can help to contact who is responsible about this part
How can I beat this stage with These heroes I have left ?
how do u get. that banner
14-40. Been failing for 20 min rearranging this comp and looking for new ideas
Hello! New and trying to figure out who to focus on, any advice is appreciated. Thanks!
Oops forgot to include this
Daimon: Best carry in the game
Talene: Amazing early+midgame, can’t speak for lategame
Rowan: Premium support unit
Thoran and Brutus: Good tanks (don’t put too many resources into Brutus though)
There’s a guide pinned in #classic-questions
Any suggestions please?
Stuck here since yesterday, and also stuck on kings tower lvl144
Silas
Thoran
Nara
Daimon
Talene or raku
Tried but not working
you could try: 1. Scarlet, 2. Thoran, 3.Silas, 4. Raku, 5. Newlene
- try switching Raku with Daimon after some time
Should I choose Lucretia on the EVENT
Or Focus to build graveborn units like Grezhul
TYIA 👉👈🥺
Newbieee heree started last week
*last week??
Wow
any tips?
Try moving rowin in the middle, daimon bottom left and that guy in front
I wanna infuse albedo with Lucius or Rosaline and I can't decide who is better in my comp ,the comp is ainz,Rowan,daimon,Lucius/Rosaline,Albedo
Thanks!
@orchid edge I see Rosaline being use more with ainz than Lucius so I would fuse with lucius
@rapid rampart alright Thanks
Yess
Any suggestions? I’m really stuck and have the worst luck
you could try something like this: 1. Lyca, 2. Rosa, 3. Fawkes, 4. Shemira, 5. Newlene/Brutus. Rosaline follows Shemira
I just noticed that pls don’t ask 😭
Thank you : )
I made similar mistakes but never that bad lol, just use it as a fodder I guess
Ascended DAIMON is carrying me
Help I need a good lineup for chapter 15
Lyca Brutus daimon Silas oden/nara(if u have her to counter isabella)
I’m pretty sure u can reset one of ur kelthur and daimon to E+ in the rickety cart. Do that so u can make daimon L+ then make him mythic by feeding silvina to him, he’s a way better carry than shemira. Also stop making random L heroes it’s a waste of food
Hey guys may I ask for some advice , I just read a few guides as recommended but I feel like I maybe did my line up wrong. I am new to the game so excuse my noobines.
Geez never read so much in my life hahaha. A lot of guides, to much info fries my brain lol. So I understood 1 tank, 1 carry and 3 support. So I did a mistake since I use Mirael and Daimon as Carries
Should I reset heroes or what can u guys recommend me 2 do ?
Ur leveling too many heroes, reset thoran shemira talene Baden belinda and numisu. Level up fodder instead like golus and arden , don’t make anymore A tier heroes to L cos it’s a waste of food as well.
It’s pretty normal to get stuck, just post the stage here and usually someone will try help
I see. So from what I have on the pictures which heroes should I focus ?
Miraele, Daimon ? And ?
I missed it but reset kaz as well lol, for u rn u should focus on leveling up 4 fodders to L+ and daimon. U can take out skriath nemora and raku from the crystal and put in oden ferael and talene/silas
So Daimon and Mirael are not 2 Carries?
?
use daimon as carry not mirael, however sometimes its fine if u use them both, have u beat chapter 12 yet?
I see, I am on chapter 10-24
My inventory
ok thats fine, after chapter 12 you'll get a chest u can get daimon from if u dont have 4 copies of him already to make him Mythic
nice, u can level up golus and then arden instead of lyca
I have 1 Daimon in my inventory
Golus and Arden got it
u only need 1 more for Mythic
Ok 1 more Daimon. This is my hero list now
you could try go with: 1. Thoran, 2. Grezhul, 3.Daimon/Rowan, 4.Ferael/Silas 5, Nara
went to put gear on grez and realised none of my characters had their gear on lol
oh
@idle oriole wait u can do that?
as in get fodder back from legendary units
i thought rickety cart just gave u exp back
Yeah but only 2 of them is a legend rank and 1 mythic wouldn't they get destroyed by the ascended tier enemy's since elites only go to like 100 or so
Since the majority is elite
i would try and use someone instead of raine, shes pretty shit
Should I use shem?
u can put elite heroes in rc to bypass the level cap
But the stats wouldn't match up to a legend?
lyca boost might help, ghrezul
stat boost isnt that much tbh, having good gear makes more attack rating
iirc if u have 2 or more Legendary copies of the same hero u can reset them to E+
yeah mad didnt know that
wish u could do it to any hero
Stop making L heroes, ur spreading out ur fodder too much. Only hero that needs high ascension is ur carry. E+ heroes in ur crystal can be used effectively as supports. E Brutus is used at chapter 40 for example
Ah so I should crystal oden Brutus and Lyca
Swap out the equipment from Raine red hair girl and horse riding girl and give it to them and keep daimon and Silas?
Aight I'll wait for the crystal cooldown to end and do that thx
just level up the top 5 guy highest ranked even if u dont use them
Okie so I'll get my legend + people up so I can pass the gap and get a high level team via the crystal
Is Lucretia worth building?
Planning to get Lucretia on the event
Is Lucretia worth getting on the event?
Or just Get Grezhul
idc about chests and signature for now ty
i got lucky stargazing and almost have her at mythic + so why not
shes only good at high signature tbvh
which i dont have her at so she dies easy
yes, havent got mine to a point where she can carry, but when ive used a friends lucretia, shes been able to solo a lot of content
What's the best line up I can make. Plenty of spots in res crystal. I'm in chapter 10.
Read the pins in #classic-questions to see what u should be getting from the event
Daimon Brutus lyca oden Rowan/silas
Ty man
Can try swapping Brutus and thoran and daimon and rowan

Ty I've already passed the stage
not working, daimon gets knocked up by grez after everyones died and cant ult
Use ferael for Silas and use Nara for Rowan to hook shemira, also still put Brutus opposite grez
o damn that worked, tysm

Heavy cc and Pop cant stun cause of luc
need help on this stage
Who could stichy replace here?
Put stichy in back
Then try lacritia
In front bottom
Ainz
@twin mica
Rowan brutus
Daimon fera nara
is there a temporal rift guide?
@hybrid island
Pull isabel or just put brutus in front of golus
@earnest sage
Prince/astra bruty
Daimon lyca fera
I didn’t need help with the level lmao I just want my linup to be good
@twin mica if you used thoran who got cursed?
vurk
It can work if fera does fear isabel
ill just keep trying over and over then ig
Put lyca and lorsan on crystal they really needed for daimon set up
ok got it, had to swap a few positions
any help would be nice ty 🖤
what wouuld the full comp be?
@hybrid island ainz isnt gud without 309 and bedo
Hey how would i best beat this level
@twin mica for that stage or?
generally i mean, would it be daimon + lorsan + lyca + brutus and then whatever is needed for 5th?
@thorn mulch
Thoran lyca
Maid rowan shemira
thanks when you say maid you mean rosaline?
@twin mica brutus is a great tank, lorsan can link the damage ,lyca is work on haste , nara to pull some stupid things .. so it depends on enemies set up you just need to put some cc since daimon csn heal and make a shield
Ye rosa followin shemi so she can ult twice if got lucky
alright thanks a lot
@raw saffron
Brutus rowan
Fera athalia daimon
If you have nara it shud be gud for daimon comp .. put nara lorsan on crystal
tyty
i think i have lorsan but not nara, Ty!
Any ideas? tryna keep daimon for the 2nd fight
stuck, should i use ma merc here?
can someone send me a good belinda build in dms?
dont build her 
u can try something like thoran brutus ferael rowan daimon from pos 1 to 5, daimon should target lucius and kill before he ults, if belinda is the problem u can nara her
why?
Out of meta, bad carry, if ur new check the pinned beginner guides in #classic-questions
belinda's not really a problem since daimon would kill her later.
daimon dies when the old man ults tho, and i dont think i can kill lucius before his 1st ult, tho few seconds after that i can
aight ill just use rng
im not really new, I had an account but lost it. I didn't learn about builds and whatnot.
If ur a returning player then I suggest reading the guides and probably starting a new acc
for Lucius, use oden or hope that rowan uses his ult to stun him before he ults
I already started a new one. Do you have any suggestions on who to use instead of belinda?
I see u can use Rowan pos 2 and daimon pos 5 then
Pins in #classic-questions will answer all ur questions
@keen rain if ur not having any luck can try
Ferael
-thoran
Nara
-Brutus
Daimon
i can not-have rowan sometimes?
also i think i just need few tens tries and let rng do its work, ferael+co is working decently, ty
alright somehow rng always comes whenever i say something about blablabla rng. worked, ty
Sometimes not needed
Noice np 
any tips? tks
Check if Eironn will work at the spot nr2, switch him with Lyca and try
hmm Ogi instantly killed eironn
Some help required
but thanks i have passed it
mirael keeps destroying me 🥴
Oi, good work!
Perhaps you could try with Athalia at spot 3, Daimon 4 and Ferael 5. If you won't pass, after many retries, you could try with Saurus Grez at spot 1, Saurus 2, Athalia 3, Rowan 4, Daimon 5
Dont put rowan here
Put him at the middle, and put daimon in front
Asta sent you my spreadsheet, and I can confirm it's true, you definitely get way more than 2k daily on average as a newer player.
At what point does someone stop being a newer player? 😅 I'm about 3 months in ATM, thanks for logging your info by the way, very handy 😀
Hello @prisma needle,
Please check out the pinned messages/guides in the #classic-questions and #lineup-help channels.
I dunno, I'm like 5 months in and I consider myself a noob despite being at Ch34 lul, I'm technically midgame and 2 chapters away from lategame 
But I only have like 1 A Hypogean to my name and that's Luc, plus I'm not done with my first batch of Garrisons, and I don't have all the priority 4F Heroes yet, I'm close tho
anyone know how to make this ainz team on 39-60 work I’ve been trying for hours 😔
Haha, I'm gonna be further behind than you by the sounds of it. 3 months in and I've never garrisoned a dim hero... my closest celepo to A is my Luc at M. Will see how things go... 🙂
Can u show me the artifacts
I m doing something very wrong, Im hardcore stuck here. Please help
Try 1. Brutus, 2. Daimon, 3. Mirael/Tasi, 4. Rowan, 5. Lyca
thanks
returning player? read the pinned guides in #classic-questions, consider making another account too as this one has a lot of L heroes already
Just which hero’s should I use
Working on ascensions and stuff. Just wondering if this is good for early/mid game
i'm using brutus/rowan silas/pippa/daimon but not sure about brutus and silas, what would you do?
scarlet isnt great for campaign and lucius isnt great in general, hard to say without ur box. midgame starts chapter 31 btw even tho the distinction is pretty meaningless and everyone views it in their own way
Hello, have any suggest?
take out pippa for oden, on rounds u dont need healing use ferael for silas. Brutus becomes good after lvl 141 when he unlocks 7sec immunity so ur better off with an L+ hogan or golus for now if u have, if not its not a big deal
charm doesn’t work against tasi right?
Have any suggestions for changes, I can show my hero’s
i need help with this stage pls 
ur leveling up too many heroes, only level ur 5 highest ascended heroes which are ideally fodder in the beginning. brutus/golus for lucius and arden for scarlet. Is this an old ss btw
Any lineup suggestion?
This is pretty new heh
u can try swapping daimon and nara, swap brutus and thoran, use oden for ferael so niru gets teleported
Actually wait no this is old lol
daimon thoran ferael oden silas talene eironn rowan are ones u can swap around
I need help with this
This better?
uh u can try
ferael
-talene
rowan
-daimon/thoran
silas/daimon
yea, eventually you'll want to use daimon for shemira
doesnt work 
btw if u can get daimon to 161 that would help too
Give me some Power lol from RnJesus
ah if u swap thoran and brutus does niru get teleported?
hm, maybe swap daimon and oden, and use ferael for oden
thats the big problem im facing, cant find a way to get oden to teleport niru
its fine maybe its not possible this stage
still not working dam
tried repeating multiple times to get a good fear from ferael but not working
ic, might be better this stage to nara against isabella, can try using lyca for thoran to get fera to fear first as well
who do i want the fear to target
not working no matter how many tries 🤔
well i guess the enemy ferael
cant get farael to fear first
try removing his weapon in the meantime
wait now hes fearing first, im so confused how that works
something like his weapon makes him fear slower sometimes
if ur not getting close can try something like
silas
-brutus
ferael
-daimon
nara
i got closer with him fearing first, but this comp doesnt work as well 🤔
Team suggestions?
rip it might take more rng since ur at a slightly higher deficit than normal, i think most ppl have 200 daimon by then, maybe reset brutus to 160 and see if u can get daimon up
dang, i guess i just gotta wait until i can get daimon up more then, or wait a week and use a merc lol
thanks for all the help tho, i think im close tho so ill keep resetting and see if some magic happens lol
golus hogan mirael shem rosa/arden. but only level up ur 5 highest ascended heroes, reset the rest and put them in crystal
gluck 
Impossible @idle oriole if u don't help me I'll jump off
Last stage of the chapter
need to stall athalia
ferael
-daimon
rowan
-lyca/brutus
brutus/lyca
u can swap around the top as well like
daimon
-rowan
ferael if needed
Am I too weak for this stage?
probably brutus on athalia is better. Can put rowan behind daimon. Also its the last stage it might not work immediately
u could put in ferael or rowan for nara and golus for lyca
😥 😭 😭
ferael
>daimon
PoP
>rowan
brutus
?

ik I can beat r1, but r2 is tough.
I tried to put fera in r2 but couldn’t find a good replacement for r1
Any ideas?
stuck here again
did u read the pins in #classic-questions ? if u follow that u wouldn’t be stuck in ch5
wich pins i read some of them but not all
the image walks u through early game, just follow what’s there and I think the first doc is a bit detailed
ok ty
to much to read wtf
10 pages for a game bro i want to play not to read 2 hours
lol read this
noice 
i did read that
Yiikes i am stuck, i dont know what to do done so many different formations😔
https://www.reddit.com/r/afkarena/comments/q5e2tc/visual_guide_afk_arena_beginner_path_by_dae314/
What about this one, is a old guide still good today and in future, only one is the wishlist that one you need to use the guide above ( only wishlist )
I use it too and @real schooner will help you further if you got the right questions
I hope it helps you too 😉 if i like something i need to share it 😜
Sorry that i put it here, saw too late that this is line up help 😩
Just want to emphasize that you should not use the wishlist in my beginner path guide.
Hey guys. Any tips on how to clear this floor/stage : 10-40 ?
Try daimon where arden is maybe🤔 or try to get factional bonus somehow
Didn’t work switching Daimon. Factional bonus, the more from same faction ?
Yeah, you could do raine instead of arden to get lightbringer faction up, im not an expert just a amateur so you should ask someone who knows the game
I see, Thx
ok will try that one thanks
Thank the maker of the guide 😊 I'm just a follower 👊🏼
you could try go like this: 1. Rosaline, 2. Daimon; 3. Raine, 4. Lyca, 5. Arden. Rosaline follows Daimon/Lyca
I’ll try
Failed 😭
switch Rosa with Daimon, try many times, very often you pass a stage after more than dozens of tries (rng)
How could I improve this
Take out ainz for a support, level daimon to 180
Failed 2 🥲
What support would you recommend
Ferael or oden. If u have nara use her opposite isabella
Need to get a Daimon in summon first 😅
how the fight goes? who dies first? who's left in the enemy team?
Oh u talking to River, haha sry my bad
Rosaline and Raine die first
mkay, try: 1. Lyca, 2 Daimon; 3. Arden, 4. Rosa (following Daimon), 5. Arden
That ain’t workin
I’ll try
Two different Arden’s ?
sorry, my bad
5. Raine
Ok
Is there a bit comment to see a levek stats with other people who passes
Sry they got waisted
Teams i can do to beat this lvl
Finally I cleared it, used this line up :

Thx for all the pointers 🙏🏼
Is thoran usefukl
He’s a carry late game
Pls help me build a team (the one shown is a core that I use)
can someone tell me what lineup i should have?
slot in 2 other graveborns with oden and it shouldnt matter for a while oden will kill everything till like chapeter 5 or 6
do you think it is a good idea to reroll and try to get daimon?
Always a good unit
play the account out you might get a copies as you go along
nara or eironn the fareal and you should clear it get daimons si to 20 asap
I don’t have Nara
then eironn
doesnt matter your trying to disrupt the fareal by pulling him to your side of the map since your probably being terrified and losing energy as well so do this
oden
diamon
eironn
mishka
silias
Thank you 🙂 worked first try
best of luck on pushing now
what should my lineup be with this guys i rerolled and got daimon
Want to open my account please I changed the server then open new game and I linked my Google account and Facebook but not open
overlevel daimon and you'll win, ur not gonna have a set lineup yet
ok
?!
Teams for chapter 12
what lineup should I use with these people?
Overlevel wukong rather than daimon until lvl100 he'll do better
also i got this yellow character, is she any good?
She'll help early game, but needs too much for even end game player to be really worth the investments, she's temporary
ok
Any advice for this stage?
@leaden turtle
Usually have daimon behind Thoran, but this was an attempt when all tanks had failed me.
Kind of a bitch this one
Do you have rowan, I'll send you a couple of ss from afk helper, I think I add more then 100 retries in this one, not the same comp though
I have rowan mythic+ si20
Brand new server what’s the team I should push with?
?
No real comp needed just use wukong until LVL 100 then switch to mirael, read the beginner guide in the question channel, you'll get a better idea on optimal progfession
I only have ghrez 308. Waiting for last red card. I do not think he can replace daimon just yet, right?
Good for campaign pushin?
I just got back into the game and need a lineup to help me with the long run and the future I’m currently on 7-26
?
Until 100, yes. Checl the pins as the guides explain a lot
Wdym until 100 btw
Like when the char max lvl is 100? Or to player lvl 100
Daimon, thoran, brutus, lyca, nemora/arden
You characters hitting 100. Then you want a new carry, like daimon.
does position matter?
Makes sense
Yes, but mostly for later. Thoran and brutus in front, maybe thoran + daimon, but then you can use both nemora and arden.
I feel like I'm way more behind in the campaign than I should be (chapter 11), what's the best setup I can do to get through the campaign some more?
S T O P M A K I N G L S W H E N Y O U C A N N O T T A K E T H E M T O L+
I mean, it's an older account and I didn't know that till like recently so it's too late now lol
F
In all seriousness, this is the most stacked Ch11 box I’ve seen in a while. Read the guides in #classic-questions and you should be fine.
garrison pop instead of ainz and yea read the beginner guide. mirael/daimon with a good frontline should push you some more
Any tips for my 15-23? Also, when should I start garrisoning?
Ohh oki ty
dont know the stage have to post it
daimon carry or mirael should cover early game
I have the same issue bc I didn’t actually play for completion I played for fun so now I’m working a million times harder to clean up
Asap
PoP first, then Ainz?
yes hes better bc he works alone at low invest. ainz need albedo to shine and full invest
try talene brutus lyca rowan daimon
Hi! I'm kinda new to the game so I'm still trying to wrap my head around it- so I figured I should ask for some pointers on lineup! These are the guys I'm wondering about, ignore the crossed out ones they're ascension materials
What resource should I invest into garrison?
#classic-questions and read the beginner guide
oh oops! thank you :)
optimally guild coins and lab or hero but have to check again
afk helper it, it is the "hardest stage" for majority of people
use "afkhelper.nax.is" and try around, as said before it's close to hardest stage in the game. We can't really just tell you what works
Well I don’t have an ascended ferael
They basically all used him with furniture and si
And most use a high level eironn
Which I don’t have either
It currently isn’t working. I have the resources to get Daimon to M+, but I’m not sure it’s worth it since I can’t get it to A yet
Daimon, Grezhul, Lyca, rowan, fereal looks good to try around. merc fereal problem solved