#lineup-help
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Oden for rowan, if he teleports ogi and daimon can focus kaz maybe it’ll work but other than that idk rip
Yea rip
@oblique nebula this worked out
Well rip for me
I bet the stage
Also how is my new team guys? Oden can really switch out for anyone he’s just filler.
Wasn't farael only good at higher lvl/ascention ?
I’m not sure. But I’ll just rock with him and if it doesn’t work I’ll change the team slightly then push forward
He’s sorta helping out
Also is it normal to be a lot lower in combat power than the enemy?
nice gj, yh u just gotta to experiment urself
I’m hard stuck on this what should I use as a comp for this or in general
Any recommendations for my lineup stuck rn
Any ideas? I don’t wanna retry battle 1 again 
Hey, I need help for this one please
idk maybe just oden thoran pop brutus kren? also how many engrave mats do u have, u can start oden since ive seen he gets a fairly good boost from it
Who should I use? I don't really know how to make teams cus I'm kinda new
oh ok ty!
@oblique nebula You can do it on iPhone you just need to jailbreak it. It will void your warranty though so you won't be able to get it repaired at official Apple repair centers but it's still worth it imo
I have 9k shards and 1.2k cores, worth it now? was planning to save it for raku, grez and ainz
yh gonna try that since campaign is to too much rng now
you'll only need ainz comp in like maybe chapter 33 so u can do the others now tbh
Okay, do I just hit rapid strengthen for e30? or manually upgrade specific nodes?
rapid strengthen is fine then just focus on the =engraving nodes for after
Engraving is a Hero upgrade method that further enhances their abilities and stats, available only for heroes once they're ascended to Ascended 1 Star.
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kk ty
Can I get some help?
i just started playing the game, got some nice heroes but idk whichc ones to play, can someome help?
Follow guide in the pins
I need help
Is it possibly to beat up to floor 80 with what I have
youve probably beaten this but just use a raku + charm
I'll try, but you are lvl 325 x)
That's not the same floor, hm ?
35-60
Who can help?
I will need a 4th team if anyone can help
Differences is Khazard is Mythic now and ezio is linkedhttps://imgur.com/a/ub01GwT
no ascended raku
kren?
can replace raku with khaz
got it 😄
and try and see if mehira can do enough dps
kren is also L-
try put daimon in there too if it helps
Daimon in team 2 😄
you can easily replace him most likely
your deficit is extremely low
okie dokie ty
Help pls
Is this doable or do I wait for merc
you'll need tidus merc for 80
i already used a merc
why do you have luc ainz and thoran in the same comp
I dont know
Ok so, my team rn in terms of tankyness/heal seems really weak, and most my chars get melted what can i do ?
My current team is mirael daimon eironn rowan lyca
Any suggestions? Can’t find a line up to get past this
I'm 31-53 ._.
He just means use the lineup in the picture
Nara
Would you guys change lineup at all or change who’s in crystal
Anything I can try other than wait for enough dust to level Eironn and get Daimon to 260?
you just need to get eironn to 240 and then you can start leveling your rc instead of each hero individually
Didn't realise that was a thing. Sounds nice haha
40k dust til Eironn can get to 240 tho 😭
Don’t worry, later in the game you’ll be spending that per level
could someone help me with my lineup? pics are above
Rowan middle, ferael instead of silvina, try that
Put gear on him also, if you already haven’t
Didn’t work, any other suggestions?
you dont have really any other option for heals and for tanks hogan will be good for you when you can make him L+ ideally since mireal is your carry you want to try to use 3 lightbears to get the faction bonus in battle
Ok
so something like
rowan
hogan
mireal
lyca
tasi
I have an extra slot on resonating crystal, who should I put on?
Nara is a solid choice.
What role does she play
hook enemies
Is there someone that could replace hogan possibly? Or farael?
Can you guys suggest a good lineup?
Got an extra space in resonating crystal, would you guys go Nara or someone else?
can some one help me with a lineup i should use?
How to beat
can some one help me get past this level please or tell me what to do
Any suggestions on how to pass this?
still get crushed by the assassin and control guy
Stuck on chapter 22, should I use shitty ascended tier units for fodder
Suggestions?
Mishka rowan fera arden daimon @zinc fulcrum
Which would go where?
Suggestions?
Clear your team and then add them in that order
Try removing ferael or arden and put astar.
Astar damage reduction might help you to prevent getting burst early on.
Yes I’ll try thst do I change Arden for astar?
If you have silas try him too i think rowan heal is not enough.
Don’t got Silas. I got desira
Ok try removing ferael and putting desira.
Ok one sec
Daimon,mishka,astar,rowan,desira go with this formation and try swapping desira and astar,mishka and daimon positions.
That didn’t work either
Tried arden instead of desira?
Swap Mishka with daimon, u shld probably be most concerned abt saevas
I’ve tried both of those too
Saveas is easy claps. It’s the ascended one that’s annoying
My daimon can 1v1 a saveas
Any help
Did it
Any suggestions?
Can some one help me try to get to chapter 19 please i keep geting destroyed by the ogi
@proud belfry Try swapping Shemira with Brutus and use Rowan or Gwyneth instead of Lucretia
Or Rosaline following Shemira could work too
I'm not sure how well E+ Nara can survive but you could try to swap her in equipped with the best you have and see if she can buy some time with disabling the Arden @sharp prairie
And swap out Oden or something
Could anyone help?
I die in a second, anyone that helps will be named, big guy from now on
Swap Mishka with Daimon and/or wait out a bit more resources and level more
alright thanks
Swap brutus and thoran places,
Rowan in rosalines place
Damn actually?
@elfin spire Actually since you have Silvina... She's actually good like most other L+ heroes during early game, great anti caster for dealing with Ankhira, worth trying if the above is not working for you
Yes
who would you replace with silvina fiona
@heavy spade Daimon 1, Brutus 2, Gwyneth 3, Rowan/Rosaline 4/5 (Rosaline follow Gwyneth or Daimon), make sure they have the best equips you can give them
i just have to wait for a bit
How about this same thing?
What stage was that again?
@elfin spire Actually because I'm thinking like when I was doing it two years ago, I'd have just used all the E+ instead of any of the E like Ferael because E+ means more stats, and in early game stats and levels are king
9-4
ah ok
Who does Silvina go after?
@finite echo no luck :/ replaced oden with nara she survives fine for the pull
She goes for rosalina but then just switches to grezhul
If you sub in Scarlet for Lyca, does she still go after Rosaline?
i’ll check
It's been too long so I don't know how early game works now but I'd probably swap Brutus for Grezhul to buy time, and if Silvina goes for Rosaline then Rosaline 2 and Brutus 5 or something so he will then go after Silvina instead of their front
Instead of Lyca I'd probably use Scarlet and have Rosaline follow her or Mirael
Okok i’ll tell you how it works out
Oh wait I almost forgot, Nara is like the hard counter for Silvina
Eironn
----New Wilder
Farael
----Rowan
Gwynith/Daimon
maybe
Hmmm nope, but thanks!
Should I use Nara?
If what you're doing is not working out, Nara is just there to face Silvina and pretty much get rid of her sneaky attack right at the start
Please anyone can help me
Might as well try it since i’m still getting dominated
@dense basalt Swap Daimon with Eironn, Astar with Gwyneth, Rosaline follow Gwyneth, best equips
Didn't work big guy, i think I'm just too weak for now
(I just got gwynth to Mythic so i have pop on mythic cuz they link lol) is she good?
Gwyneth destroys ranged maulers pretty easily especially Safiya, but there's also other solutions
Who's Astar ?
Farael
----Talene
Gwynith
----The wilder with the lantern
some sup
So putting gwynth on mythic wasn't wasted?
@dense basalt The little girl on top at slot 3 behind Grezhul
Ah i see
you got a nara ?
@heavy spade It's early game where your main objective is to rush your first 5 ascended to fully unlock resonating crystal
My god that was the one i used nara instead of scarlet I won
Like this ?
Thank you
Ill try this one too in a moment
Eironn slot 5, Gwyneth replace Astar
Oh k
Sadly not
Let Eironn pull both the Shemira and Grezhul and do some nice damage
Or Eironn slot 2 could work but not sure how well he'd survive
Yesterday i was chapter 17, so maybe this is where the rush ends
Nvm i got the lvl lol, like this, thanks big guys
I wouldn't L+ three of the same faction by the way, you slow down a lot if you're still trying to get your first five ascended
Omg thank you i've been stuck since 4 days@finite echo
👏
Ohhh, ok, sorry
Help
Team gets melted before PoP can ult or daimon can heal
Also get stunned by root guy and shemira
Faction bonus is pretty useful at low stages
I'm stuck once again arf
I have tried something with ferael but team gets melted either way
@finite echo managed to pass with brutus thoran ferael eironn daimon
Try Golus 1, PoP 2, Nara 3, Cecilia 4, Ferael 5
Wait no, Daimon 2
If Golus die too fast you can try PoP 1
Pop is linked to celilia
Tank Niru with Daimon instead, drag and disable Shemira with Nara, make Arden turn around with Cecilia, faction bonus with Daimon/Nara/Ferael
lyca and niru still burst daimon down hard
If you put Daimon as 1 and then use Rowan or Eironn as 2 instead?
Make Gwyn go after mauler instead
Instead of getting burst this time I get stunned from ogi
I think i need levels for this
I won but this one i loose in about 10 seconde After it starts
Try Eironn 2 and put Skirath at 5, Gwyn at 3
does not work
Oh it's new stage... Put whoever Silvina is targeting at front and put someone strong behind her, Eironn 1 or 2 to pull 3
Don't what you talking about 2-3 ect
I think its the slot but i dont know where is the exact slot
Top front is 1, bottom front is 2, top back is 3, middle back is 4, bottom back is 5
Basically when you're trying to put a team from nothing
Okay thanks
Can some one help me get past this stage 18-40 please im not the smartest
LB is not really a good matchup to GB so I'm not too sure really
I almost won
Shouldn't make Ls unless you also have another E+ of a hero to at least make L+
swap shem and brutus, athalia for lucretia and maybe rowan for nemora
can some one help i have no idea what to do please help
@proud belfry
i won thank you

@dense basalt Not even sure if that's going to work but swap the LBs with Astar and Solise
Gwyn and Rosaline - Lightbearers - LB
My mehira is getting one shoted every time :/
Brutus against vedan not thoran
You wont be able to raku charm since your lineup is weak
All g now I completed it thank you though
SInce my lineup is weak ?
How can it be "weak" ?
Chapter 11 is a huge wall I’m slowly climbing. Is this just me
I'm at 12-34 atm and just about to break through the 140 barrier (waiting on dust and xp)... should i stick to Daimon as my carry and level the crystal heroes evenly or switch to Mirael as my carry? A bit lost on who to use among my carry as well... currently running Daimon, Ezizh, Silas, Rowan and Golan or Mishka... kind works most of the time but feels very weak atm
Seems fine, just put ferael in the crystal for lucius he's pretty good too
Also have this, should I ascend anyone here?
nope
put nara in crystal to deal with annoying backline heroes in some stages
currently got rowan, oden, farael and mishka in crystal, should i replace someone?
wait until u can unlock another slot then put nara in
just suggest waiting then?
yea it shouldnt take that long, however if u start running into Isabella soon and are struggling to beat her then put nara in for mishka and use her to counter isabella
isabellas strong
Cheers
yea shes very annoying in early campaign

Helpppppp im stuckkk
Not invested enough
Help plox
Yo Mr Drof. I might be stuck here some while right? The power diff
Any ideas here?
you got a copy of elite brutus from chapter completion I think repplace grez with him
That’s the only one I have but I’ll give it a whirl 🙏
he works at elite hes just used for his invuln
like ?
raku 303, lucius is thrash replace brutus, fereal isnt the best use lyca
power difference becomes pretty irrelevant, it just comes down to if ur using the right heroes in the right formation and u can usually win
Is My lineup and hero choice bad?
try get ferael +10 soon, swap lyca for oku to help ferael fear before the enemy one, it'll just come down to swapping positions around ig
raku is 301 actually and I replaced lucius for brutus, I just didn't used lyca yet
Hi. Do I take Satrana to M+ , Drez to M, or Skreg to M? I'm not sure for Maulers which one(s) are the best.
probably neither unless u have 8 copies but out of those options skreg is the best. Have u done kren and skriath first?
no need to waste food on heroes u dont have 8 copies of tbh but yea skreg is probably next with tidus
It worked just with adding lyca lol
noice
DROF ITS AN EMERGENCY

It's the last level of the chapter 😟 😥 😟 😥
do u have oden?
Elite+
hm ok first u can try
oden
-rowan
daimon
-brutus
ferael
otherwise maybe this will be better
pop
-rowan
ferael
-brutus
daimon
Both no,
Second was best
see how close it gets in another like 10-20 tries, might be a gear issue or just switch around like switch some ppl around like the side heroes etc
Farael and pop share the same gear, who should be better geared up
Pop has the best equipment out of all my character lol
yea thats fine, just remove feraels weapon if he has one
This weapon?
maybe try
pop
-daimon
rowan
-brutus
ferael as well
actually its ok leave the weapon, only M weapons make ferael fear slightly slower
Should i get pop or farael to 200? Rn?
u already have pop at 20, get ferael +10 and leave it, it's fine there for a while
I meant level wise lol
Nah i tried like 30 times, thanks for the help drof. But i think I'm stuck for now
Oh, i noticed daimon didn't even had gear on the whole time
oh lol yea get pop there then
nice 😂
Help me pls
I am new, could anyone give me a team for the early/mid game?
Swap brtus with rowan
Does anyone have some time to help me determine best path forward for my team?
Mid-game at Ch. 24
Have pictures of every faction, wanted to discuss in DMs tho.
Read pins in #classic-questions
Also #classic-questions
Yeah, i've read through it, but still trying to figure out best path.
I'll get the swap scroll soon and not sure best team to pursue.
without stunting my progress.
Post ur box in #classic-questions
@native grotto beat half way through 27 rn
Any suggestions?
tried mehira instead of ferael and swapped daimon out for rosa didn’t work. Any ideas? rowan can’t dodge tank at all in front same with daimon
Also Ainz 200 & Albedo 100. Any recommendations for continuing progress from Ch.24 on to Ch. 30? Rowan 300, Raine 100, Chicken 001, Lyca 131, Silas 001, Shemira 203, Thoran 200, Silas 001. Call only at 3star. Was thinking swap scroll Shemira to either Grez (direct to 5*, Oden (mage gear built), Eironn, or Pippa. But open to suggestions and main team to build to get to CH. 30. No way to get another dimensional for Albedo SI buff right now. Wouldnt mind building Ainz team, but not sure how to make it work.
Currently run Thoran, Shemira, Silas, Rowan, Raine/A. Ezizh
honestly all u need for ch30 is daimon at A then reset thoran and get him up to 240
save ur gold and purple emblems for his +20, rn just try different comps with what u have, I think ainz is works pretty good with albedo only
For Daimon’s +20?
yeah,
Any ideas? Being stuck on the first stage of chapter is so stupid, i tried everything. I don't have hero essence to level up everyone to 200
Can someone help me
Getting 1 shot AoE'ed by Belinda
I'd say a healer would be useful, I assume you've tried Rowan back mid?
nara
brutus
oden
thoran
daimon
Any team suggestions for chapter 11
I need help😭
How do i beat this team? Been on it for 3 days
My ainz is not mythic nomore i unlinked him
Well Silas benefits from being back mid iirc so switch that, at a certain point Daimon moves from front to back row as he levels so try that, with Brutus front row?
Also why have you got so many heroes with '!', do you not have the best gear equipped?
It finally worked after upgrading oden's si, gear and 70~ retries with this team, i hate this game)
anyone down to help me wit this. thoran cheese isn't working for me. I've tried other comps too.
nvm i passed it...
after 14k attempts



any team suggestions I’ve been stuck on 11-8 for about a week
Arena team is:
Raine
------Thoran
Rowan
------Daimon
Talene
Is it worth swapping out Talene for Ferael due to his Asc lvl?
//
Also not sure who to level now. I'm waiting for 2 Daimons to take him to Asc, or 1 Thoran for Asc
this is my first day playing and was wondering whats the best lineup from these units?
@pale kettle under pin messages theres a beginners guide that walks you through who to use early on
hmm okay ill look it up.
Brutus is the boss. I'm not sure what to do
How is my team
Any suggestions?
no what’s that
47 just curious how much U spent on afk
Just got to ascend a bunch but I’m not sure the synergy here. What are some ways to use this lineup?
@daring sequoia website that shows comps for stages and what people have beat it with
rowan
Any tips for passing this stage?
Am I good or bad for this stage? Lol
Ah cool (:
Putting Silas on the team helped me survive a bit more, but still I can't kill anyone
no with 4 graveyeard you have an avantage
Putting a dummy GB in the middle makes no difference in terms of survivability
and if you put thalene middle back ?
She barely gets her revive
I got a lucky Silas ult on Daimon, which made him survive long enough to ult two extra times - I lost anyway
Try afk.helper
29-60 is pure pain
h
Holy
Most ppl merc it tbh
Check pinned guides in #classic-questions
Take out rosa for Brutus, I think talene falls off soon for u so if she’s not doing much can use lyca or rowan
Can someone help me make team im stuck at 9-20 
First of all dont make anymore legendary heroes if you cant take them to legendary+ and you can try reading the guides in #classic-questions . Try removing wukong in crystal and putting brutus.
Could I get some help? Getting obliterated
got any ideas? many rc spots open
can try
daimon/rowan
-rowan/daimon
ferael
-thoran/brutus
thoran/brutus
Can someone help me make team im stuck at 9-20 zolrathhi
have u read the pinned guides in #classic-questions
Could you give me any suggestions for mine @idle oriole?
Hmm you can swap lyca for rowan cuz ur team doesnt have a healer.
Ok thank you
daimon cant survive for a 2nd ult in any case
but oh damn it worked after a good rng, other rngs everyone just dies without killing a single enemy
great help, thanks

So can someone help me ?
And yea i read some of guide
So u fixed ur wishlist? Take morael respen and wukong out of ur crystal and put in brutus oden and silas
Do i get rank up on any of these Heroes?
dont ascend anymore heroes to Legendary if thats what u mean
Ok so how do i beat this lvl 9-20
post the actual stage where i can see their lineup
swap mishka and lucius then take out lucius for nara
take out morael for oden or silas when u get them in crystal
Ok thx il try 
Is there Any tier list or some team comp tutorial on dc?
check the pinned guides in #classic-questions
@idle oriole is this what you have in mind
yea
Lol it worked thx oh Mighty 💗

Will this work on other too? 
only need to use nara against annoying backline heroes like isabella etc. Positions can be swapped around like daimon and rowan sometimes.
Thx il keep in mind 

Help I'm a noob and wanna get to ch14 quick
Wut do I do?
im rn stuck in 8th chapter if that helps
Look up the beginner tutorials pinned on #classic-questions, set up your wishlist properly and summon heroes in the tavern would help a lot (I wish I had 31k gems stored like this lol)
But about your question, it would help if you posted a printscreen of the stage you're stuck in
No I mean, something like this, showing the enemies:
Otherwise we can't know what you're up against
Brutus is the boss. I'm not sure what to do
Try putting in Nara or Athalia to pull safiya out of the shield spawn, that can make comps like that a lot easier
👍
That actually helped 👍
Try:
Thane
Eirron
Rowan
Talene
Daimon
Just replaced Lyca with Rowan what you told me doesn’t seem to be working though a lot better then the last one though
Should I ascend any of my heroes?
Try:
Rosaline/Lyca
Thoran
Rowan
Brutus
Mirael
At your current lvl you should be ascending fodders instead of A tier heroes.
It didn't work but thanks anyway
Oh well as long as you get rid of that isabelle you have a high chance of winning.
Ah ok I’ll get them to L+?
Yes just follow the guide on what to do next because i did the same and it made life easier.
Alright tysm
Need help making a new formation
For what
Story
I just keep getting destroyed it’s insane
It depends on the stage, in general u can use daimon golus Rowan silas tasi/arden. Ezizh also useful
Alr thx
Oof level mirael to 160 then ascend fodders to l+ also lvl them to until 160 that way the heroes in your crystal is also high in lvl.
Oh well just be patient and keep trying you will eventually clear that stage anyway.
Would love to do that but no hero experience lmfao
stuck
Brutus Lyca
Nara daimon tasi
also reset nara and tasi to 200 and level daimon to 240, nara isnt a frontline hero.
I'm stuck on 39-19 for over a month now, I just can't make it work. No Ainz comp to use
Do u have well build Alna+GB Team?
Depends what you mean, by well-built. 4* 309e60 grez, oden and ferael. 309 Alna, and 5* 309 silas. Still doesn't really work, skreg lives for too long and flora kills everything
Try this
Could someone tell me a good comp for ainz for PvE (campaign)? I'm fairly new but bought both ainz and albedo back in the days. Didn't play much until I picked it up again recently. Tried looking online but every site I check shows me another team. I know that Ainz, Albedo and Arthur should be on the formation, but I'm having a hard time deciding what other 2 hero's to bring.
I'm looking for a general strong PvE setup to play through the game with
Thank you!
Where are the 4 heroes on the bottom for? Are they replacements or?
Done that too, thoran is just not fast enough to ult after resurrect, cause flora deals dmg every millisecond. Haste from call doesn't help either
Flex heroes
Give Ezizh and Pippa good gear
Should i get queen for 5 pull nedd 3 chicken copyes but have his furniture already??
What the hell is this?😩😩😩
This is impossible to pass with my heroes
The power gap is insane
merc lucretia
any standard formation i can use?
i dont understand sorry?#
ig u don’t know lucretia, the hypogean hero, u can look her up in the game
borrow her from your mentor or a friend who has a well built lucretia,
i have her but not so strong but why her?
Give Lucretia her +30
And hcp Skriath asap
Not need for Queen
she relies on her allies’ death and get more atk, might not work but it’s ur best option to beat this
Any suggestions?
who can be put on this team?
What’s the god comp I always get it mixed up
I don’t think it’ll work in chapter 39-52
Any tips on how to clear the chapter?
Or the stage
Oh yeah didn’t notice lol
Anyway thanks
Anything I could do?
not that early no
9f ezio required for this?
Any idea how to pass this?
Stage 11-4 help?
lyca, brutus, daimon, oden/fera, rowan
I'm only at chapter 15 but who should I build in preparation for later stages
I unfortunately don't have ainz
I kinda meant based on what I have rn cause it's hard to get a hero you don't have to a good ascension level
Ok but ainz is unobtainable now
get PoP and link her to shemira
instead of queen
PoP?
prince of persia
Pain getting all those dimensional stones is gonna be annoying. Wouldn't I still keep queen linked to shemira cause I thought garrisons dimensional you have to level normally and can't link
read the beginner guide pinned in #classic-questions, you shouldn't garrison queen this early @charred cipher
PoP until 31-33 is ideal garrison
I have queen owned not garrisoned
oh mb, I'd get PoP then from garrison system
garrisoned dims work the same way as owned dims
For garrison, once you borrow them 6 times they are free the 7th time and beyond right? Also, is it free for the person you borrowed from or from anyone with the character you are garrisoning?
yeah
Rephrased the question
yes to both of your questions still
The second question is a which one question not a yes or no question?
Anyways for the lineup what should I do for my formation once I get PoP?
anyone you get him from
PoP
>brutus
queen
>rowan
aezizh
should work fairly decent @charred cipher
I... suck at formations. I'm at chapter 12 and I just can't get a good formation going for the life of me. Please help! These are my heroes.
And yes, L Raine was a mistake.
But please. I need help bad.
oh shit, i thought i'd need an L belinda as fodder at some point, lmao.
Please, i need help getting past ch12...
Disregard Tidus I know I messed up 🙂 can someone help me with the best campaign line up with my hero bag?
tbh, idk if u can fix that box. Belinda wont get u far and u made a lot of random L heroes, also not having many meta heroes built is a rip. I'd recommend starting a new account and reading the pinned beginner guides in #classic-questions , you'll be able to get back to chapter 12 in a couple days if u play optimally through the guides. U can play both at the same time if u rly want
i guess scarlet is ur carry for now, generally can run scarlet mishka brutus/thoran rowan oden and last can be flex support like rosa/silas/lyca
Scrap Daimon for now?
if u can get him mythic use him for scarlet, idk if its the best to have 2 carries in a team at the same time
I’ve been stuck on 7-2 for a while now any suggestions
I shouldn’t be stuck. Any advice?
trade daimon with silvina, hogan with golus, see if you take down the big one before he's throwing everybody across the screen
Hi guys! I've been pushing chapters and I'm now really stuck. I need to split my Lucretia from the 5-pull guys. I wanted to know : what is the best 5-pull linup? Is Oku better than Mishka? Thanks for your help
oku is a worse mishka but a good character and your best bet for queen 5 pull with eironn doing most of the dps
wym reset?
ohh nvm
srry i thought u mean revert, reset hero
oh u do
LOL IM SO DUMB
At 24-32. Any advice?
Any suggestions?
what do i use for my formation atm in Arena of Heroes
Could use some help with my lineup I’m barely able to get through chapter 10 I’m trying to follow the guides made by phoenix and bok but it doesn’t seem to be working out
Stuck ch10, I suck at formations and stuff so would appreciate help
@vital stag you should only level 5 characters but for now maybe thoran/wukong/daimon/Rowan/ferael(or oden)
Also check out pinned comments there’s a guide about the beginning that helps with transitions
Could someone help with this
Should inmake fereal mythic?
rowan
daimon
nara
mishka
oden
not sure if it wil work but give it a few tires
@silent moss would you replace mishka with thoran?
it might help give daimon another faction bonus buff but if you really need a tank brutus is ideal when you get a copy of him
does this look good
The comp worked second time, thanks
for that fight isabella is going to be annoying so try something like this
daimon
thoran
A ezizh
rowan
oden
your going to have to hope that oden will strip isabellas energy after she wakes up from A ezizhs sleep

Sorry to keep bothering but stuck here
this worked thanks, i didnt know rowan can be a good frontline
oden
daimon
rowan
thoran
mishka
this could work not 100% sure though
rowan becomes a sudo tank due to his abilites as he gets leveled up higher in the future but im glad you now know so you can try more things on your own and make things work
lvl 121 is the breakpoint or rowan right?
i actually dont remember rowans break point i only remember ardens which is 141
your doing as well as you can with what you have, only time will tell if daimon will get more copies
Agent I don’t have thoran in crystal right now, should I replace someone. I haven’t used farael in a very long time
you can try fareal in there i was just trying to get daimon as much of the faction buffs as possible
Ah ok, so what would it be
sometimes all it takes to beat a level is that 10% health and attack buff from 3 gbs in a team
Bahahaha farael up front worked
yeah so play around with it more always try to keep oden behind daimon if possible moving forward if you use him and slot in another random gb to get the faction buff and you should be able to keep progressing
Is there anything I could change to beat this stage
scarlet top right brutus then oka behind brutus thoran and rosa stay same place
all u gotta do is make sure scarlet stays alive
Alr
estrilldas run through is killing you so do this instead
scarlet
brutus
arden
hogan
rosa (following scarlet)
Thanks I will try both
np
@silent moss I think I’ve tried most but got any last suggestions
put shemira in crystal play daimon on vedan and mishka behind, rowan ferael and oden on other side
that should work if just putting shemira in crystal doesnt
oden
daimon
rowan
mishka
nara
Is shemira good? I was just using to take silvina away from oden
shemira is not good dont bother with her
early game yea but she does fall off later on, if u can protect shemira w oden and keep ur tanks alive then she works on most early levels
try removing shemira and oden, swap daimon/rowan to let vedan feed daimon energy, put hogan very bottom to slap silvina, arden or mishka up top
Could you do like a formation, I changed my formation and don’t know where they were
arden/mishka
daimon
ferael
rowan
hogan
wait dont use arden i guess, point was to put silvina on rowan and have hogan go smack her around
Anyone got advice on who i should focus on rn or if i should ascend anyone rn. kind of lost lol
not sure how itll turn out with no actual healer tho
prolly grez or raku theyre strong once u whoever ur focused on rn
sort them by 4 factions hard to look at everything
aight
i actually have a question about that setup. does thoran ever do anything for you that awaken talene cant?
Could I get some help?
so ideally you want to ascend as followed
Lbs rowan, scarlet
maulers kren, skriath, skreg
wilders raku, mishka
graveborn oden, silias, thoran, grez
No daimon from graveborns?
The person above has Daimon ascended.
I see
any particular order or just ascending as i get enough copies for them?
i typed it in the order ideally but honestly as long as they all get there at some point youll be alright id say focus carries in each faction first so you can progress your faction towers faster
start with the 1/8 kren 
start leveling up silvina and arden so things on your crystal can go higher reset two things and work on them
Alright tysm
ideally youd get a fodder in the maulers to L+ and then possibly another graveborn to L+ to have 5 level 160s then you can start to prioritize heros that can be ascended
So just a team full of fodders at L+?
they are pawns so you can use there levels to better your crystal heros and possibly use them mireal and arden will be used since she is your carry and arden at level 141 is actually really good cc
Anyone available to try helping me with this?
Im finally starting to understand why tasi is a nuisance
Okok will do thanks
help plox
both tasi and fawkes takes my daimon, any ideas here? afk.helper are full of A daimon 1v5 which isnt possible in my case
Should i make fereal mythic by feeding silas?
@slate turtle no
Okokokokokok
@slate turtle never feed ascended heroes + if you're faction scrollling graveborn you'll get plenty fodder
try ferael instead of nara, ig he can interrupt both fawkes and tasi
First line up?
observed in slo mo. even if both tasi and fawkes get's feared by ferael, it doesnt stop fawkes from casting coffin
he basically just continue casting it even when feared
Hi im new and I just got the celestial Zaphrael. Should I use him? If yes, who do I replace?

Thanks! I'll build her as soon as possible
Someone Can help me please ?
Suggestions?
Might need Nara on safiya
I’d Nara fawkes and try ferael to fear tasi with rng so like
Nara
-daimon
Ferael
-Brutus
Lyca/thoran(if ferael fears without lyca)
Pins in #classic-questions
No don’t use him
Maybe swap Nara and daimon and use mishka or hogan for silvina
what's "if ferael fears w o lyca"
@idle oriole completed it without thanks though 🙂
Silvina is aiming for rowan in that comp, so what do I do?
also would lyca be better than daimon? daimon gives 400 energy+heal while lyca gives 350 energy+haste
her haste buff at the start makes fereal fear quicker
oh, never knew that
so if ferael can fear without lyca then i can swap her for thoran, is that what u mean
something like
daimon
-mishka/hogan
ferael/oden
-rowan
nara
in that situation yea to stall estrilda, but u can use others in her place like rowan etc
Sorry @idle oriole who’s at the front in that lineup
mishka/hogan and rowan
also, i just got a mentor and there's a mercenary tab, can i borrow those heroes and use them in campaign?
yes
i cant pass this stage, what hero should I try to get?
What could i do here ?
Been stuck here. What to do?
same here stuck in that stage also
oh nvm 32 i’m stuck on
Do u have nara
Can I get some help?
Tasi Banishes and it becomes a 1v5
U can try putting ferael opposite her if he survives long enough to fear
Oh u have nara, can try her too
Any thoughts?
afkhelper clears use thoran cheese or have different investments in heroes, idk if it’s worth build my thoran tho he’s 2f
Any help on what I should be running?I’m in chapter 10
DROF what would you say, is queen good? For campain
Not in early game
:( so pop is the best dimensional at the moment ?
Yes
PoP > Ainzbedo > Queen
Thanks kodzh guy
How much should we invest in PoP? Mine just get obliterate every single time. Same question for Queen and Mishka
PoP can work at 000 but he needs good gear so he can dodge
Queen and Mishka both want T3
And what about F and E?
I heard that for Quenn 209 is good
And Mishka needs her E60
Queen 209 E36
Mishka 209 or 309 (for pvp) E60
Thank you very much! Last question for 5-pull : SI30 Eironn or Chicken first?
How do i beat? It seems impossible
Imo Eironn coz he makes more damage
Noted. Thanks!
Nara to hook isabella
I tried that any other way to?
I’m assuming you’ve read the beginner guides?thoran daimon silas oden/arden Rowan ferael should be fine
Nara to hook ferael, teleport niru with oden so daimon can target isa
Yeah I’ve been reading the guides and I got multiple Rowan’s and didn’t know what supports to use for my team
Can I get any help?
I would probably toss Oden in there in place of either Rosa or Arden
Will see how it works tyty
And when all else fails, give it some time for more levels/gear/etc that early
Yeh seems like I’m going to have to do that. Lacking in hero experience right now can’t level up any without it
Bro this is so hard to many healers
Fairly low damage output on their side, you can likely get away with daimon frontline and dropping brutus for Ferael and try to out-CC them
This is bs
Idk i might need oden
It's going to be a lot of RNG with cc on both sides
Cleared that, and yes I do have Nara but at lvl1
Put her in ur crystal, she’s a good counter to isabella
Okay but I'll need to wait 24h then for it

Or should I just get her to lvl100?
@idle oriole ?
Just put her in ur crystal when u can
Okay
Also if u haven’t already, read the pinned guides in #classic-questions since u should be leveling 5 fodder heroes early on
I read some but didn't understand all
I just got ch21
Can someone help with this pls?
Hello everyone, any tips on this stage? Thanks in advance
Afk.helper is ur best bet
i need help, i’ve been playing for past few years-ish blindly but i wanna make a good carry, who do i use?
Any idea ?
Please help with optimal formations and artifacts for Lost Grace bosses. Haven't meta and still didnt get all rewards((((
So, any Idea pls ?
Daimon for lucius, Nara for rosa maybe, call on nara
Any suggestions
Build Lucretia even I know that and I'm in chapter 21 but you might not have a lot of stargazing tickets so you already have the shemira and errion kinda built so i would do one of those 2
maybe try
daimon
rowan
Oden/lyca
brutus
ferael/nara
will give it a go, ty
someone know a good early game line up i am currently running on
Gwyneth
Niru
Talene
Ira
Wukong
any suggsetions are welcome ira is something i plan to discard but dont know for what maybe a zaphrael?
Should i keep retrying with this comp or am i just stupid for trusting this website?
if u don’t have daimon, use Mirael carry. check the pins in #classic-questions
morael?
No Mirael is the lb fodder hero, she works pretty good if u lvl her up above others
ok thx
Need help
Should I have a scarlet carry instead of a mirael carry for level 120+
Can someone help me build a team with these hero’s? 😭
Should i use her?:
ty
daimon, check beginner guides in pins to catch up on the meta
Those are my "best" chooses I try to cast Ira away and Gwyneth on the long run any suggestions wich of those I have i should use?
with those heroes? idek if they can be at 33, rc is average for 31-32 if u play optimally so possible not even at multis, i dont see there being more than even 1 solid team from there?
i mean yea but, if they're not even at multis they should probably start building the meta heroes first to get a good team, not great to just immediately diamond gaze for luc
HOW DO I UNLINK A FACEBOOK ACCOUNT IN AFK ARENA
No clue. I'd like to unlink my email personally
Ty man but i got so fed up with the stage that i went and build a mythic khazard to conplrte the comp xd
^
They burst my daimon down
you really shouldn't have Nara pull a Tank.
Try swapping Daimon and Nara. Daimon should survive the opener but if he doesn't, might have to sacrifice Lyca.
twins are really bad for campaign. try fera instead
Lvl 58 but have all that? P2w?
Whats the main lineup to beat this? Its the challenges for the new hero
Any lineup for this
I have been off for Awhile, and I was hoping someone could give me some advice on which heroes I should be focusing on for each of my factions, as well as updated wish list, i believe I am capable of pushing past my current chapter with what i have, but I am a little lost after being away so long.
I have screenshots of each faction and my Dimensionals, i need 2 more monthly recruits for get creed as well
check the pins here and in #classic-questions
I well past that stuff, my file pretty advanced really, just need someone to kinda touch up what priority units I need still, and which main faction unit I should he pushing towards, units are level 309, working threw chapter 31
Just kinda forgot,
ask in #classic-questions 👍
Stomping new servers
how much?
4k
cray
Trust me I have crippling depression
How do i beat
aslong as you can afford it 🤷♂️
You need burst dmg, they are mainly sustain with dps being savaes, you kill him. You win
Whats burst dmg?
big fast dmg
how do i beat this? champion
connec t ainz with daimon, and try ainz
I’ll be honest I have no clue what ainz and albedo’s skills are
sadge
ainz just big early dmg, but in the time i get his ult my team is dead and brutus obsly isnt dying cuz of immune
You might need a better Athalia or Lucretia if I had to say
He a slow one
What does albedo do
thats why lyca
buff, esp dims
Should I change formation?
dont put your carry against cc, swap mishka & daimon
Daimon should be back line
You play usually for his ult
And you might wanna put mishka at the bottom to hook that dude
man i wish i swapped my shemira with daimon before i got him to mythic...
would be a breeze to ch30
Nara you mean fenrir?
Yes the one that hooks
My silvina is also L+ now, should I be using her
Daimon is still really good tho
yes, thats why
i havent used my swap yet, but my daimon is mythic already so its kinda wasted
I swapped rosalin for lorsan
unlocking stuff etc
Also, you wouldn’t change the comp at all? Like who’s actually in it?

Lorsan is nice when you’re bursting down opponents but
Rosalin is better for most things I would say
And my rosalin was ascended 😵💫
Would thoran be better then mishka
trial and error, position changes can get you a victory just like that
Or would thoran and mishka up front, then daimon oden Nara? I’m thinking of taking farael out of crystal and putting in thoran or someone else
Thoran built can help you push campaign easily
hes in early game, he wont need thoran in the next year
Might take a lot of attempts but you could try to thoran cheese your way through I guess
That is also true
hes in ch11
not like you in ch31 on fresh server 
I’m in chapter 31-21
31-24*
same here
Oof
but with ainz its like, either you one shot, or get one shotted
<- this guy is biggest ainz enemy
Hahaha
do: oden
mishka
daimon
thoran
rowan
full FL 
So replace farael with thoran in crystal?
try it
Didn’t work
It worked
also just unlocked another crystal slot, any recommendations?
leave it open and use it when you need it
How do i beat? Best team i can make
I need it
what do
this dang team >:(
merc albedo and get arthur
o I used Arthur in the first fight also I don't have enough to get albedo sadge
I mean I used Brutus and lyca in a previous thing also the athalia was just to interrupt the pyramid girl lol
it's worked before for me lmao
how many ainz ults do you get?
1 lmaoaoao
uhh sometimes one shot
so focus on surviving for the second ult and manually use it after brutus shield drops
hm ok
Can't pass, what to do?
swap talene and daimon
Tried so many times with so many possible formation
maybe Nara in the middle instead of scarlet
Ya tried with all the characters I have
How do i beat i need help
Nara middle talene top left daimon bottom right silas bottom right
Pls help me on my lineup
:,)
Anyone got suggestions
for the 40-56 r5 thoran cheese, zaph keeps killing me, what to do?
maybe try
nara
daimon
Arden/oden
mishka
Lyca
swap the backline a bit and u might use both oden and arden instead of lyca
Who should i use?
don't bring heroes to L. you want 8 copies before you commit. At your level, WK is a good carry till 100. Read the pins.
personally, hero pulls aren't that good. I would restart
EDIT: daimon and rowan are exception. you can commit at 4 copies
Okay, thank you!
Where's drof suprem guy when you need him the most
I'm so close to reaching
Chapter 23 i neeeeed it
try
Oden
lyca
ferael
thoran
daimon
u probably want to take off ferael’s weap, or give him legendary one
His equip is the trashiest out of all my champs lol
Oden is one hit, everyone dies too fast it won't work
give him pop’s equip, u will swapping gears a lot early game between ur heroes
give ferael’s gear and swap his position with oden maybe? fyi tasi fights is always rng
Lucius is also annoying, u need oden to drain his energy before he use ult
Daimon just turns into a statue and then gets stunned by annoying tasi
how’s ur rowan’s gear? Can he dodge a bit?
Any better ways to set up my challenger defense / attack teams? Tried to split power but retain some sort of comp on each but idk
I think I'll just be stuck there @oblique nebula
How should i arrange this?
lol, I actually not sure, but u can take brutus out and put rowan fronline,
ferael
rowan
Oden
daimon
lyca/pop
idk if u can check my clear, haven’t been too long since I did it if u want
That was the closest tbh, ROWAN CAN DODGE
pvp is mostly for whales and determined by levels early game, u will get beaten if someone puts his 2 best against ur worst 2 usually
just try to attack more and get ur spot back
okay nice just keep retrying then, tasi frontline is kinda annoying tbh
Thalia keeps insta killing my silas right as he is abt to pop ult on daimon
idk but u can try
ferael
daimon
rowan
thoran
brutus
Big hip, my server is still early so I’m top 50 and I climb everytime I’m not too lazy to attack, I’m mainly asking if there’s anything that can make my def comps more…coherent. Atm my defenses hold up v well but I know mfs are gonna have real comps soon
No fera
maybe ezizh or oden instead then
I would prolly replace Silas with frontline Rowan back line daimon
yh just try to keep that then, tbh early game pvp teams are just meh. use one of ur carries at each team
Personally I got carried thru this entire chapter by Prince + daimon
Tru
I got it Evo, thanks:)) like this tho:
nice, fera is pretty good against healers and interrupting enemies
Been stuck for about 2 hours now what should i do?
Swap thoran and Brutus and use Rowan for ezizh?
I can take out 1 guy before either thalia or thane insta kill diamon
nara
-daimon
oden
-brutus
thoran
Nara?
@idle oriole more or less working if im lucky enough i can win
i just got talene, who to replace?
Gluck
Grezhul I guess
Hi what 5 teams should i mąkę in previous chapter i had good compositions but now i don't know
ainz team, thoran team, eironn team, grez team, X
What could i do here ?
What substitutions should i make i don't have every neccessary character
https://afkarenaboss.com/the-best-teams-in-afk-arena/ there are suggested subs
chapter?
that site is horrible 
36-4
I'd do
**Team 1 **
ainz
>arthur
merlin
>Albedo
Tasi
Team 2
lucretia
>skriath
eirron
>lyca
safiya
Team 3
daimon
>Rowan
mehira
>brutus/lyca
izold
should work
**Team 4 **
ferael
>grezhul
silas
>brutus
oden
Thank you very much
whats a good resource?
I need wait a bit to mąkę this teams
Pop cant stun long enough for Daimon to do DMG
1v5 at the end
https://www.reddit.com/r/afkarena/comments/r8nr68/endgame_pve_formations_visual_guides_redorb/
this is better, still outdated but much better then previous
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what parts are you missing?
you have everyone no?
except luc +30
you shouldn't run thoran cheese since you are extremely overlevelled
team 5 should be random crap and go and I suspect it could even be negative deficit or 10-20 deficit
Ok ill try really thanks
np you still defo need luc +30, raku +30 and grez 9F so try and get those asap
using the term "asap" sounds so weird in afk arena since asap is translated to months
So for now im stuck
true 😂
nah you should be cruising through campaign with your rc, show me the teams which are failing if possible
you are missing some meta options, but you have a good amount of heroes
Is talene usefull?
in campaign nrlly
This team fails
which one?
yh team 5 should be super easy
I invested a lot on talene back on the day
she can probably carry your team 5 if she has decent investment
she just fails at deficits
I used Stargard cards on her
stop gazing for her now and work towards mortas M
Not lucretioa
After lucretia I meant mb
I hate rates on stargazing
Suggestions?
can try oden for mirael
Should i start stargazing using diamonds or stick to the normal summons
Do HCPs for now and read the asncension prio Dreaf sent in #classic-questions
What is HCPs
Can some one help me get past this stage please I’ve been stuck on this stage for 3 days
I need 3 team comps for campaign, any suggestions
Any help would be appreciated
sorry im not the smartest with your heros
any tips?
Any ideas
I'm stuck
maybe swap lucius and wukong
NVM I finished it with my astar
mishka for rowan and oden for silvina