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[west path]

Misty

[safe hazel]

Merc luc then

[mental glen]

Mercs are nice in misty

[safe hazel]

Oh wait that’s the no ranger/mage one iirc, just merc a big grez if you can @west path

[west path]

as long as I can beat it I am fine. I can give up the bonus to get the chest. It also surprised me as the other ones so far gave me some problem, but went through after a bit of tweaking and a few attempts. This one was a brick wall.
What do you mean merc a BIG grez? 309? 5star? E60?

[safe hazel]

309e60 should work fine

[west path]

Ok, thanks.

[plush musk]

I can only make thoran work with eironn, but eironn is most of my damage and I'd love to use him somewhere else

any ways I can remove him from the teamcomp ?

[fiery wing]

nara

[digital skiff]

What's your chapter and box like

[plush musk]

you can see it with on top, the last screen here

@digital skiff

[fiery wing]

let me see ur thoran gear

[fiery wing]

...

[fiery wing]

yup i can see why ur thoran isnt working

[plush musk]

tell me

[silent moss]

dont mid me just watching

[fiery wing]

you dont full t3 thoran

[plush musk]

oh ?

[digital skiff]

Do raku charm

[plush musk]

oh true it add defense

[digital skiff]

Dumbass

[plush musk]

wow

[fiery wing]

yuup just full t2 weapon bots, M factioned helm, and E chest thoran needs to take him more damage for cheese to work

[digital skiff]

Not defence, pr

[plush musk]

that's violent man. Chill

[fiery wing]

t3 just gives him pr and mr which is bad for thoran

[digital skiff]

You missed so much fun t3ing him

[fiery wing]

and btw you should check out afkhelper for clears it will really help you out

[digital skiff]

You Dont need mehira M nor khazard M for raku charm

[plush musk]

Like that would work better then I guess

[fiery wing]

yes

you just need to put stars on all of them

and yea get 5* call asap

[plush musk]

isn't 309 a priority compared to call ?

and how do I accelerate the aquisition of call 5* anyway

[silent moss]

when events come around you can buy a chest with 40 at a time for event curancy

[plush musk]

i see, thx !

[fiery wing]

nope call before 309

[viscid parcel]

Help pls idk what to use

pls

[silent moss]

just level either the gold card as much as possible or the wukong and use them till like chapter 8 or 9

[viscid parcel]

k what about the others??

[silent moss]

doesnt matter your so early in the game at the moment just only level 5 heros

[viscid parcel]

alr

[silent moss]

if you want more help there is a pinned section of guides for beginner in #classic-questions look for those and try to understand them if you have questions about it ask there as well

[viscid parcel]

alr ty

[unborn folio]

anything i can do to port Estrilda?

Shes giving my Daimon a hard time ulting

[cunning warren]

why alna and talene?

[unique crypt]

I always have daimon opposite estrilda, maybe replace talene and oden with Rowan and lyca since anyone lined up with estrilda is gonna get one shot anyways, may as well get haste

[glossy gulch]

Aye what should I do here

[clever holly]

Heres my lineup

Daimon,Lucius, Rosaline, Rowan,Tasi

Is it good?

Cuz everytime i do arena i always dobt do a lot of damage cuz i have 3 supports

So what should i do to have more damage to my team?

[unborn folio]

Alna temporarily stuns, and I prefer Talene over Rowan for now because she can revive mid fight and heal Daimon

[unborn folio]

Gotcha ill try that

[cunning warren]

the only thing you need to do is stop making L heroes

[coral pier]

This looks pretty horrific. You are wasting so much fodder.

Also, why are all the heroes randomly levelled to level 5 or 10?

[unborn folio]

Teated the comp for a while.

The biggest problems that stood out was Grezhul sometimes shields Estrilda, preventing Daimons ult from doing much dmg, and Iras ult breaks through Daimons shield and kills him

Nearly beat the stage actually, but it always comes down to Iras ult

Not removing Talene unless i get a good reason, but besides that anything I could do to deal wirh Ira?

Why is it everytime I don't clear a stage for half a day and then ask for help here, I suddenly clear the stage with the comp I started with earlier in the day

[glossy gulch]

@coral pier categorising them as spares of levelled heroes (5), or new/unique ones not on the crystal (10)
I don't really care that how I play isn't minmaxed or optimised tbh lol

I was pretty much only wondering which graveborn to ascend since I like all four of those guys, or whether to wait and use someone else

[coral pier]

I mean it is very clear you don't care, more power to you if you don't, but just looking at this I don't think I have ever seen as many mistakes in 1 photo.

You don't have to minmax everything but reading the pinned messages in #classic-questions would greatly help you get out of the early game

[glossy gulch]

Any advice on which graveborn to ascend or whether to keep those four gold+ where they're at and use someone else?

Like... I play this on my lunch break it's not that deep to me honestly

[coral pier]

In terms of heroes, getting a good Daimon is a big early game priority. I would again advice you to read the great guides pinned in questions. They have pretty much step to step instructions on what to do early game.

[glossy gulch]

Keep Daimon, sounds good to me, thanks!

I'm def keeping Silas as I really want a graveborn healer for the faction towers, Kelthur seems good, and I just have a soft spot for Treznor honestly

The guide is helpful, thanks!

[coral pier]

👍

[keen rain]

now i understand the "annoying tasi stages". what are good ways to counter it?

i end up losing to 0 time

[fiery wing]

nara it or fereal

[manic mulch]

need help 29-60 i have quite a bit of characters but i cant find the right combo

[obsidian tangle]

Help. Me

[fiery wing]

fereal (no weapon)

thoran
brutus
rowan
daimon

try atleast 50 tries

[manic mulch]

any specific artifacts?

[fiery wing]

eye on fereal
thoran any
brutus barricade
rowan and daimon call

[manic mulch]

ok thanks

[digital skiff]

Daimon
Lyca
Mirael
Brutus
Arden

[digital skiff]

Yes

[digital skiff]

That's a good stage

[manic mulch]

something like this?

[fiery wing]

yes

[obsidian tangle]

On chapter 13-14

[manic mulch]

closest ive gotten

[fiery wing]

29-60 really hard cause of ezizh and athalia

[unborn folio]

Trying to target Numisu but Feraels also being a nuisance, anything I can do?

[fiery wing]

https://afkhelper.nax.is/images/chapters/29-60_1622270367.webp

try this one

[manic mulch]

I tried that earlier but my eiron and thoran aren’t that good

I could leave it on over night but I doubt it will work

[fiery wing]

thoran needs enough haste to taint and eirron needs enough haste to pull

[manic mulch]

who needs gear priority

[fiery wing]

ur gear is fine

u just need time

[manic mulch]

Any different artifacts?

[fiery wing]

might want eye or call on eirron

[manic mulch]

Barricade on anyone?

[fiery wing]

might on thoran

[errant hornet]

getting stuck on this stage

[gaunt seal]

is there a team for max rewards on the new estrilda boss that doesnt use baden? got to 4.9b

[keen rain]

any ideas on how to beat this

[hollow wigeon]

Hello, stuck on this for a few days, every possible comp just being obliterated in first second, no one could even make first attack or cast skill

[idle oriole]

Oden for Eironn and swap Brutus and Rowan

[hollow wigeon]

Didn't work out, but suddenly worked with brutus, toran, daimon, rowan and oden. But thanks anyway.
And one more question - how to counter tasi? She started to appear more often, almost every second level.

[steel badger]

hii so im new to the game HAHAHAH anyways im doing campaign now and i need a proper team, i currently just whacked gwenyth, wu kong, rosaline, the trial hero audrae, and shemira soo i need help, on 6-34 btw

[idle oriole]

Nice, Nara or ferael + lyca

[idle oriole]

Check the pins in #classic-questions

[steel badger]

ouh oops thanks

[idle oriole]

Np

[drowsy rain]

I asked many times and no one responded. I'm losing my score. Please help

I need 5 line ups for pvp

[drowsy rain]

Thank you but all of those lineups contain heroes I don't have.

[royal stag]

Is it for hoe ?

[wispy tusk]

I’m stuck at 11-36. Any idea how to pass?

[drowsy rain]

Yeah

[royal stag]

Ask in #959482947105349662

[livid vale]

Frontline Daimon, Hogan, Back Rosaline, Lyca and Rowan? Or should I change

[idle oriole]

depends on the stage, swap rosa out for oden tho

[unborn folio]

Anything I could do?

[livid vale]

What’s he do?

[idle oriole]

good cc, has nice synergy with daimon too

[unborn folio]

Me wanting to use Numisu but fully knowing the only reason the enemy Numisu is good is because they're ascended

[idle oriole]

hm u can try
nara
-alna/thoran
rowan
-daimon
oden

[unborn folio]

Why is it people always tell me to drop talene but every single time i beat a stage its because i had her

[unborn folio]

Nemora easily dies, its mainly Numisus healing and cc and Feraels fear thats being a pain

[idle oriole]

cos i never used talene so idrk where she would work, as for feraels cc, just switch rowan and nara then, if u need rowans pot to hit daimon then swap him and oden too

[safe hazel]

So I think this is doable with flora but is it doable for kelthur to hit a 1hp kaz here?

Kaz keeps dodging and kelthur has a t2 5* off fac weapon

All the clears on afkhelper have flora so wondering if she is needed on this stage

[unborn folio]

Tried that team

Only problem was Numisu wasnt being targetted , thus attacking any enemy was useless

[keen rain]

any ideas

[idle oriole]

if u swapped rowan and daimon would oden port the frontline protecting numisu so daimon could target him?

[idle oriole]

maybe
nara
-daimon
lyca
-thoran
ferael(remove weapon)

[slate turtle]

Whate the best lineup i can make

[fiery wing]

you have a good starting 5 of

fereal

thoran
eirron
brutus
daimon

and you have as counters for isabella make sure to put lyca on your crystals too she's essential for your campaign

your formation wont always be the same due to enemies are different everytime

[unborn folio]

Not with the comp you gave me

[last jungle]

Nvm I did it

[idle oriole]

u tried
lyca
-alna/thoran
ferael
-daimon
nara ?

[unborn folio]

Why Ferael?

[idle oriole]

his fears, its just a base comp u can tweak it to what u think would benefit u

[unborn folio]

I mean Numisu is still the problem

I cant kill him before he starts healing him and his allies

Id love to use my mercenary on this stage but i accidently used a fucking mercenary without realizing a few days ago

[rotund maple]

Can I see all of your heroes?

[unborn folio]

Me?

[rotund maple]

Yeah

[unborn folio]

Probably not dropping Talene until i get the awakened version or a better healer

[rotund maple]

Front 1. Thoran 2. Lyca/brutus(if lyca doesnt help) Back 3. Farael 4. Daimon 5. Nara

[unborn folio]

I need to target Numisu first because attacking ANY other enemy is useless

They'll just be insta healed once Numisus ult is up

I managed to kill Numisu once but then Nemora started healing

[rotund maple]

Doesnt your Nara pull numisu from the back to get targeted by Daimon?

[unborn folio]

Daimon was being blocked by Golus, and then Numisu summons onr of his crowd control things which pulls away Stitchy

I cant use Brutus and Thoran at the same time because i only have 3 sets of armor

Brutus, Thoran ,Daimon, and Nara would be 4 sets

[oblique nebula]

any thoughts?

[unborn folio]

@rotund maple

[rotund maple]

Try Daimon on bottom, Nara on top, with Farael in the middle, thoran still needs to be opposite front side from Thoran so Thoran can cc away from Daimon longer for him to use his ult. Farael will be required for his ability. Using Nara to pull is good as long as you can dps whoever you’re pulling. If you’re struggling with killing fast enough you can replace nara with Rowan for more energy/support or oden for more cc

[unborn folio]

I mainly need a healer but Rowan is bad for my team comp atm

He does more but at the same time is useless compared to my Talene

[rotund maple]

You mainly need dps, or for more Farael procs so theres leas healing while Daimon dps

That Talene is okay early game because she can come back alive but she falls off really hard mid/late game

[unborn folio]

The frontlines are by far the easiest enemies out of this stage, thats why i usually use oden

[unborn folio]

I only care about getting and passing ch 21, i could care less about mid game or end game until i get there

You meant something like this?

[rotund maple]

Swap lyca and Thoran

Thoran should always be on the opposite side of your dps that way he can pull aggro for as long as possible even after dies so try and help your dps live longer

[unborn folio]

Thoran is way too underleveled to do much atm

Ik if i get him to mythical or something thats when he starts to shine

[sleek delta]

Should be using brutus instead of thoran

[unborn folio]

Sure

The more dps i use the faster i die tbh

Ignoring Numisu is a bad move

Oh wow i beat the stage

[livid vale]

Should I swap anyone out?

Like ignore the stage I’m at I’m pretty early game

[unborn folio]

Thanks @rotund maple and @sleek delta

Rng finally let me win with that comp

[pale kettle]

pls

[rotund maple]

Which comp was it?

[unborn folio]

This one

For some reason daimons ult at the end kept recharging and managed to leave brutus the last one alive before killing him

[sleek delta]

Show gears

[rotund maple]

Brutus over thoran for the longer CC I guess was all it took

Now someone give me tips on this stage without using Ainz or Lucretia Comp 😪

[unborn folio]

Are ainz and lucretia comps just end game meta

[rotund maple]

Ainz and Lucretia are definitely team comps you want to have if you plan to make meaningful progress as quick as possible

[unborn folio]

I mean ainz isnt good until hes mythic and has arthur and albedo

[oblique nebula]

anyone got an idea? ezizh and tasi r annoying

[rotund maple]

Yeah thats true but Ainz can be exchanged for and just attached to someone who is already mythic+. And Lucretia needs Eirron, Skriath and Safiya is nice as well

[sleek delta]

Put gears on prince. Daimon in front of ezizh. Backline is ferael, rowan, prince

[livid vale]

Sorry to reply I just wanna be 100% sure I got this right

[rotund maple]

Any thoughts on mine?

[sleek delta]

This is my clear from long time ago

[rotund maple]

I’ve tried that comp like 600+ times and not even come close with my under geared Thoran and for some reason my maxed merc’d Thoran dies faster than mine does 😪 thats the team setups I was running

[sleek delta]

Merc thoran won't work because improper gear and yours don't have +30

[rotund maple]

I’ve been relying on your clears a lot through my push I believe, and yeah I just did Raku instead of Thoran, and my Thoran has worked for me in the past every other time, just a lot more attempts

I should have just done my Thoran 😪

[sleek delta]

Oh nice, I changed name already and haven't been uploading since ch 38.

You need +30 thoran

[rotund maple]

Dont tell me I’ll be stuck on this stage until then… 😭

[sleek delta]

Show your box

[rotund maple]

I’ve managed to maintain my top 10 spot for so long now

[sleek delta]

Ohh lol you can easily clear it

Copy my first team, ainz r2 then 5-pull lucretia for r3

[rotund maple]

My Raku is 2/9 furniture though, think it will make a difference?

[sleek delta]

It will be fine

[oblique nebula]

prince never gets to use his ult, always bounce to where grez and niru are and get killed

I have mythic gear non faction on him

[sleek delta]

Try lyca instead of ferael or prince

[rotund maple]

My Daimon gets 1 tapped by Baden every run

[sleek delta]

What level is your windbinder on mehira?

[rotund maple]

Only level 2, I havent got enough shards to upgrade it again yet

[sleek delta]

Finish the ToG for windbinder, lvl 3 will help for mehira to cast ult faster

[rotund maple]

Is it any specific one?

[sleek delta]

You can get shards to lvl 3 windbinder if you do 32 on ToG

[oblique nebula]

tyy that worked,

[sleek delta]

Sure thing

[obtuse stratus]

Anyone know the best substitute for Haelus in the Lucretia PVP comp? Is it still just Eluard?

[sleek delta]

Skreg is better than eluard ig

[obtuse stratus]

That's what I've been using, wasn't sure though. Thanks for the info.

[rotund maple]

Is Rowan 30 required for the extra boost in Energy? I upgraded the windbinder and it did help some so I can actually live a little bit but thats coming from dying immediately, now I’m still a little off

[sleek delta]

Oh I didn't notice you don't have +30 on rowan, it is a big factor

[rotund maple]

Yeah I skipped him for Raku so I could get closer to the extra team battle in 35 since I’m lacking a comp

Rowan’s my next, then Alna, then Thoran

[sleek delta]

Ezizh needs to survive a bit to drag fawkes, is he surviving?

[pale kettle]

ya

10secs

or he needs more

[sleek delta]

If he can drag fawkes to thoran it's good

[pale kettle]

he doesnt

[sleek delta]

That's the problem then, you maybe need a better ezizh

[pale kettle]

im alrdy mercing zol

[sleek delta]

Try giving some t3 gears on ezizh from other heroes

[rotund maple]

Would Merc’d 30 rowan work?

Didnt mean to reply to that msg

[sleek delta]

That will work yes

[rotund maple]

Need to find a 30 Rowan now, my friends list is empty of players with merc worthy heroes

[heavy spade]

So. I'm stuck. It's impossible. Any changes ?

[rotund maple]

Best attempt so far

[heavy spade]

As if that racoon does that much damage Ayo, is he strong?

[pale kettle]

no work

[rotund maple]

You still my pfp? 🤔 and he is, just mines not strong enough 😪

[heavy spade]

UR PFP? AYO it's mine.

Yo wrthy you look like a pro, who would u remove /change

[rotund maple]

What do you mean by remove/change? Look at my screenshot and check my pfp 😂

[heavy spade]

Oh lmao i see. Lets be honest tho, i deserve it more atm cuz already daimon mythic and stuff yk.

And also with remove /change i meant what chRCter there is trash

[rotund maple]

Your top three Legendary+ will all be replaced eventually

[heavy spade]

There fodder i know, i know but would u change anything at my stage?

[rotund maple]

My chapter 13 account

[heavy spade]

Chapter 13?!?! U definetly paid into that game

[rotund maple]

What are you currently pulling for and pushing with? And I’ve spent $0 on that account 😭

[heavy spade]

Two accend two mythic and lvl 170, I'm chapter 15 and my team looks like that

[heavy spade]

I'm gonna cry

[rotund maple]

Can I see your whole box of heroes?

[heavy spade]

Don't even got one light or dark hero rare thing,

What am I doing wrong

[rotund maple]

Upgrading fodder when you dont need it, I would say, but I’ve only been playing this game for 5months so take that how you want

[heavy spade]

That's what everyone else told me to do lol,

Upgrade fodder now, so u can use them to upgrade 4 Skill champions later

[rotund maple]

You have some good core heroes, have you adjusted your wishlist at all? You seem to focus on the wrong heroes

[heavy spade]

But how do u got so lucky and got 6 ainz this early game? I haven't pulled one good character besides daimon, not even Rowan :(

[heavy spade]

Did it like the guide says

[rotund maple]

Well kind of, you want to keep all your fodder so you can upgrade it for your 4 skill heroes later, but you shouldnt start pairing off your fodder till you know what you need so there’s no waste and you’re being efficient

[heavy spade]

Wait, in my wishlist isn't even Rowan, i think it's wrong

Oh i never did my wishlist right

[rotund maple]

You can exchange for Ainz under friends list / Garrison then exchange for dimensional tokens then use those tokens to exchange for Ainz, after 6months you get to keep him without exchanging every month, and he comes at elite then you just link him to you highest ascended character and he matches them

My second account got lucky with Thoran pulls till ascended+ so I just linked Ainz to him

[safe hazel]

set your wishlist up properly, that wishlist is horrible

[heavy spade]

I just noticed.

[rotund maple]

I had just now looked at it

[heavy spade]

Should i fully restart?

[rotund maple]

How much time invested do you have?

[heavy spade]

Two weeks I've been playing i think

Oh damn that's fucking horrible

[rotund maple]

You already have a solid Daimon.. but you do have a lot of wasted materials, you can own multiple accounts easily on afk so you could just start a new one and see how it goes but always free to switch back

[idle oriole]

Your account is fine, M daimon takes u to chapter 20 at least

[rotund maple]

His account is definitely fine, I was only meaning if he wanted to be efficient

[idle oriole]

Yea making alts is fine

[heavy spade]

Thats

My team could be so much better by now tho, only cuz i didn't save that damn wishlist

[rotund maple]

You’re not wrong

[heavy spade]

Kinda demotivates me to play much more, idk

[safe hazel]

you have daimon, that's all you need pretty much it's fine

[rotund maple]

I feel that, I got really lucky that I was invited to the game by someone already well experienced to the game so after 5 months I’m top 10 on my server 😌

[heavy spade]

Okokok, good good

ANYWAYS how do I manage that level

I mean I'm pretty early game still, i can make a comeback just needs a bit of time

[rotund maple]

Thoran in Centaur spot and Rosaline in top spot attached to Daimon, and the biggest problem you’ll face is hitting niche walls that require specific support or carries

You can swap around your backline being, Daimon, Rosaline, Lyca.

Or a combination

[heavy spade]

Like this?

This worked, thanks!

She's the problem, she's the threat. i hate her

[graceful tundra]

i use awakened ezizh for ppl like her

[rotund maple]

Are you sure Raku’s furniture doesnt matter? With the +30 Rowan I get within the realm of possibilities then Lucious pops shield and everyones back at full

😪

[sleek delta]

I'm sure, just need to timing where daimon or rowan stun lucius when he's about to ult. No connection at all about raku's 3f

So it's just rng

[rotund maple]

Ahhh okay, didnt know if it had anything to do with helping Raku get peckish sooner for the haste and cc, I’ve been retrying this whole time, that last SS was the closest till Lucious shielded, 6/10 Daimon still dies off spawn

But my rowan or daimon should be targeting Lucious at some point?

[sleek delta]

Can you show artifacts

[earnest escarp]

u need nara problem solved

[heavy spade]

Who

[earnest escarp]

hooking girl nara

[sleek delta]

Ohh try eye on raku or longbow, he's not dealing so much damage with the call. Also eye or shroud on lyca

[earnest escarp]

help

[rotund maple]

Best attempt so far but still still couldnt get through Lucious

[rotund maple]

Thanks a ton

[sleek delta]

Congrats

[safe hazel]

never run call on raku, always eye/bow

or shroud if he needs it

[rotund maple]

Just unlocked ascended Raku recently and just got his 30sig yesterday so I had no idea, but thanks a ton.

[idle oriole]

Can try lyca for thoran and swap daimon and ferael

[oblique nebula]

Any thoughts? lucius ults before my oden even with call

[red kelp]

I wish i could send my all heros to someone and he pick for me for [HEROES OF ESPERIA] plz

Bc I'm bad with formations

[earnest escarp]

nvm i passed it , thank you tho

[idle oriole]

Swap Rowan and oden? He’ll prob hve more time to get his ult there, u should keep eye on him tho

[idle oriole]

#959482947105349662 maybe

[red kelp]

Ty ^^

[idle oriole]

Otherwise u can try Eironn pos 4 with lyca somewhere to pull ppl in. Those 2 were my main teams until like chapter 29

[proper relic]

This is for afk like its 2019 chal, so dont use trail hero

[manic mulch]

@fiery wing I beat it at 1.1k attempts thank you for the help <3

[livid vale]

Is there anything I should change, I keep dying, and because I’m not sure if the formation is good

[low snow]

Could anyone help me make a decent lineup? Im stuck at 10-14 and losing motivation 😫 i just pulled the newest Talene

[coral pier]

You should read pinned beginner guides in questions. You are just going around wasting your fodder on completely random heroes.

You ascended 2 shemiras to L for some reason

[low snow]

Yeah I know i messed that up accidentally

there has got to be something i can do though no?

[coral pier]

You could read the pinned guides in questions very carefully.

[low snow]

you're certainly helpful and clearly helped me with my initial question. thanks a bunch.

[coral pier]

I understand you are being sarcastic but I am trying to help you with the bigger problems with your account.

[manic mulch]

Try talene

[livid vale]

In change for who?

[manic mulch]

2nd dude up front

[low snow]

yeah and what am I supposed to do now then? i just read the thing

basically just start from 0

[pearl karma]

Help

[oblique nebula]

issue is Estrilda always kill him there even with brutus frontline

[cunning warren]

yea that would be easier than trying to save that account

[low snow]

really?????? why not just wait for summons? since im basically going for lvl 160 3skill characters?

and then go from there?

[pearl karma]

Can someone help...

[hollow wigeon]

Is it just me or difficulty in chapter 22 skyrocketed. Every single level feels like a nightmare. I can't imagine what will be in the next chapters. Any ideas how to deal with this stage?

[cunning warren]

what’s the point of using morrow and nemora

[hollow wigeon]

I was trying every hero i have

[nova bloom]

I have no clue how to do teams and I just wanna know in general which heroes are good together or witch combinations of tank, healer, support etc. is good

^just ping me if you can help

[full quarry]

Khazard and khasos are doing the most damage

[ebon linden]

any ideas? kinda stuck on this

[mental glen]

team 4 try daimon, mishka, raku, oden, ldv/rowan

[idle oriole]

check the pinned guides in #classic-questions

[unborn folio]

Testing some comps, anything I could do?

Shemira is pretty annoying atm

[frigid aspen]

:,)

[obsidian tangle]

Help me

[unborn folio]

[obtuse stratus]

Indecisive about who to use shards on for e30 at this point. Torn between Queen and Estrilda. Anything that should be on top of the list?

[idle oriole]

#classic-questions you'll get a quicker response

[idle oriole]

nara on shemira since her beam 1 shots daimon sometimes

[idle oriole]

swap tasi and ezizh? vurk poisons can be annoying can put rowan front too

[frigid aspen]

ah i tried doing all of that and it didn’t work :(

[viscid parcel]

Can do one help me I’m 7-1 rn

[unborn folio]

All of the times actually lmao

Even when daimon targets shemira first she just life steals and eventually everyone else kills daimon

[fiery wing]

pog great job

[versed maple]

1.1k

[fiery wing]

do estrilda e30 it really helps on tr/cr/abex

[viscid parcel]

Can somone help me with my lineup?

Cuz rn I’m stuck on what to use

[idle oriole]

pins in #classic-questions

[slate turtle]

How do i beat?

[fiery wing]

fereal

thoran
nara
brutus
daimon

that stage kinda pretty hard to beat

[frigid aspen]

:,)

[formal blaze]

thanks

[silent moss]

np

[unborn folio]

someone help me make a team i can win by spamming

Shemira keeps healing

I've tried so many ways to specifically target her but it didnt work

[slate turtle]

I stipp cant beat this i need help

[limpid shell]

Any re arrangements i should make?

[pale kettle]

Who do u think is a better carry? Ezizh or Raku? And also who's a better tank? Thoran or grezhul?

[coral pier]

Well Ezizh really isn’t even a carry. Thoran is a better early game tank, but Grez beats him by a large margin in the lategame.

[pale kettle]

They're both at lvl 100if that changes the decision

[coral pier]

At lvl you should mostly be using fodder units anyway. Also Raku really doesn’t carry that well before his sig 30.

[pale kettle]

Ahh I see

[coral pier]

Looks like a pretty typical early game comp. You should not be ascending non fodder heroes yet btw, except Daimon.

[limpid shell]

K

Should i occasionally ascend silas?

[pale kettle]

Who should I use for damage out of all these for now?

[coral pier]

Occasionally?

[pale kettle]

What's an OK team I can do? (I use the whole first row except raku, in which I use thoran

[coral pier]

You have Talene2 and Ezizh2 which is pretty amazing luck. They do a lot in the early game.

[limpid shell]

If i have enough should i ascend him sometimes

[pale kettle]

Ohhh I see!

[coral pier]

After you have Daimon at mythic+ you can then start thinking about ascending other graveborns. Take it 1 hero at a time to conserve fodder. Pick your 2nd GB based on what hero you can take to ascended tier.

[limpid shell]

Oh i was thinking of immediately pulling diamon to ascended once i get him myth+

[coral pier]

Yeah if you can do that go for it.

[limpid shell]

Yeah i really only need 1 more leg+ and a single diamon

[coral pier]

That's really lucky.

[limpid shell]

How so?

[coral pier]

I mean 7 copies before your first hero is lvl 160, good for you.

[limpid shell]

Ah nice

[silent moss]

try this
oden
daimon
nara
brutus
talene

[unborn folio]

will it target Shemira?

[silent moss]

take daimon to 180 if you have the dust and other materials then try this
talene
brutus
arden
daimon
silias

[silent moss]

im hoping that oden will stay alive and strip shemiras energy give it a good amount of retries

[limpid shell]

Just got my final diamon copy from my chap 11 clear fac scrolls

[unborn folio]

he did but daimon died from getting grouped

it only happened once though

[silent moss]

honestly from looking at it once you get +20 on daimon youll breeze through it

[unborn folio]

no gold emblems

[silent moss]

i mean to me that just means youll be buying a little gold emblems from this next event or try to push peaks

[unborn folio]

oh yea what chapter do i get a discount on guild store?

[silent moss]

i believe 27 is 10% but you should be able to buy gold emblems at chapter 19 iirc

[unborn folio]

damn so its right back to me being stuck on ch 18

[slate turtle]

I cant win i need help

[silent moss]

not for long there is an event coming that you can buy a few gold emblems

[silent moss]

take daimon to 180 if you have the dust and other materials then try this
talene
brutus
arden
daimon
silias

[unborn folio]

and when will that happen?

[silent moss]

i want to say this week at some point if not then possibly next week

[pale kettle]

If I have a full team of a equal level (in this case full team of lvl100) is it worth leveling other characters?

[silent moss]

nope you can just put those who you want to use in the resonating crystal

[pale kettle]

should i replace one of them with raku if yes then which

[tribal inlet]

I can't get through this battle. Any suggestions?

[hybrid island]

This good?

[coral pier]

Gwyneth is a really bad carry

And if you're gonna use her at least have Rosaline target her

[hybrid island]

She isn’t meant to be

[coral pier]

Then why are you building her?

[hybrid island]

For the aoe

She built well tho atleast for my stage of the game

She works well in this comp atleast for me lol

But talene is doing most the dmg tbh

[tribal inlet]

any suggestions for what I posted?

[coral pier]

No way to turn back now I guess. If you want to have a reference of what heroes are really efficient to prioritise early on take a look at the beginners guide pinned in #classic-questions , it has a recommended wishlist.

[coral pier]

Which stage is this? Did you check afk helper?

[hybrid island]

Thank you 🙂

[tribal inlet]

labyrinth stage three hard

[coral pier]

Are there any heroes below the ones you have in your screenshot?

[tribal inlet]

yes

[coral pier]

And are you going to show what those heroes are?

[tribal inlet]

it took like 20 minutes to get those two pictures on to discord

[coral pier]

Do you have Alna or Lucretia?

[tribal inlet]

lucretia is gold+, alna is purple+

[coral pier]

Idk I was thinking maybe you could try some sort of a GB team. Grez-Daimon-Oden-Rowan-Ferael, something like that.

[tribal inlet]

they didn't knock out anyone

got them on the second try with duras' tears, thanks

[empty ibex]

So basically everyone one shots everyone on my team. Yes, even Golus one shots Daimon.

Tried vanishing Saveas and Mirael but not even good RNG seems to bring this close enough to win. Any suggestions?

[noble hound]

im having trouble beating 11-16 , any tips on what heros i should be using?

[coral pier]

You’re ascending completely random ascended tier heroes in to legendary. You should be ascending fodder at this point. Read pinned beginners guide in #classic-questions

[unborn folio]

Still trying to target Shemiru first before she can heal, help?

[noble hound]

alright

[coral pier]

Did you try to Arden it until you get good rng on the vines?

[unborn folio]

I dont think arden would have enough time for it, but its worth a shot

Who should i replace then?

[coral pier]

Anyone but Daimon I guess, depends on who seems to be doing the least in that team.

[unborn folio]

I tried using tasi but since she cant get her ult up she cant stun anyone

I waa mainly trying to use oden to port grezhul away so daimon can kill Shemira, but she regens so fast with her life steal its just not possible

Even when i did manage to do it once out of 200 tries, i got killed off by Estrilda i believe

[oblique nebula]

Any thoughts? hoping to clear 25 today to get that 15% lab tokens

[unborn folio]

This is the crap that happens when i do manage to kill Shemira

And i cant ignore shemira either which is the worst part

[livid vale]

Anything I should change?

[coral pier]

Move Rowan to middle of back row so his potions reach everyone

[livid vale]

Alright, any hero changes or it looks good for the time being?

[coral pier]

Your Daimon+Talene2 combo is really deadly in the early game. Only thing I am wondering about it if Rosa is replaceable there, if she does actually get a few ults off then she is good enough I suppose.

[livid vale]

Oooo that sounds good to me, thank you for the help 🙏

[unborn folio]

Do people get that version of Talene from pulls and temple of time?

[livid vale]

I got her from pulls

[unborn folio]

Really wanna get her but I feel like she wouldnt be too different from normal talene

[coral pier]

There is a 0,1% chance to get a awakened hero from a normal summon or friendship summon

[unborn folio]

And what about temple of time?

[coral pier]

You can get copies there too

Since the temple is so new right now f2p players can’t really build any awakened heroes yet until we get a real way to get the cards

[unborn folio]

Ahh so i shouldnt use the cards to pull then

[coral pier]

She looks similar on the outside but the kit is very different in action.

[unborn folio]

I was comparing the skills of Talene and Awakened and i feel like the extra buff the Awakened one gives while dead is super nice

[coral pier]

Yeah if you have time cards just completely forget about them for a long time.

[unborn folio]

Yikes

So normal talene is kinda meh and Silas is utter garbage until hes mythical

[coral pier]

Silas ult is not too bad and he has heals so people use him in early game too

[unborn folio]

For me he always gets one hit first second

[coral pier]

Normal Talene really only has a use in CR and PvP, maybe in niche scenarios in campaign too but not often.

[unborn folio]

I relied on her from chapters 12-17

[coral pier]

Yeah she is useful early

[unborn folio]

As of now shes still quite nice. But id much rather have another dps or something

The stages in ch 18 are obnoxious

[livid vale]

I forgot to ask, any and all my gems should go towards summoning right

[coral pier]

Early on yes.

[livid vale]

I'm on Ch 11 so I'm going to go on a whim and assume that's pretty early

[unborn folio]

Chapters 1-21 is considered early game i believe?

[coral pier]

When poe coins start appearing in your store come ask again. Then you need to start thinking about daily shop refreshes and fast rewards

[coral pier]

Honestly 1-31 is pretty early

[unborn folio]

Im really hoping ch 18 is just to fuck with me and ch 19 and 20 wont be the same

[coral pier]

I can’t remember which early chapter is which exactly but some are definitely much easier than others

[unborn folio]

Im really far behind my schedule so i need to get past 18-12 tonight or something

[coral pier]

Sometimes you kill a boss you were stuck on and then fly through like 40 stages

[pale kettle]

What's the best team I can do for campaign/tower rn?

I can level someone if I need to

[unborn folio]

I just wished i had some daimon team i could rely on all the time

[coral pier]

Something like Thoran-Talene2-Ezizh2-Rowan-Daimon should work really well

[coral pier]

You’re still missing heroes for it, but I see a lot of high deficit c20-30 players using a static backline of Daimon-Rowan-Ferael

Frontline is not always the same but it is something along the lines of Thoran-Brutus

[unborn folio]

So many of my characters are only good when they unlock their SIs

Ik end game mythical/ascended thoran is crazy

[coral pier]

Later on he is used to cheese stages, he is never used as a tank in lategame

[unborn folio]

I see

I think im at a state of denial over not being able to beat this stage despite over 200 tries

I've never seen such a tanky Shemira before

[coral pier]

You are around the deficit I would expect for that stage of the game with those heroes. You can always afk a bit too.

[unborn folio]

I would love to if me from weeks ago didnt decide to do that timed challenge

[magic kelp]

Could use some major help 😅

[fiery wing]

1-30 is early game

[livid vale]

Can’t beat this, who should I level up first?

I have 5 L+, should I just level them and put the other guys in resonating crystal

[sleek delta]

You should overlevel daimon, make her 140 while everyone else is 120/100

[livid vale]

He died instantly as soon as I go into the mission, should I move him anywhere else?

[sleek delta]

Yes, not in front of the spear guy because he shreds

[tender mauve]

What can I do to get past this chapter? I've switched them around and even replaced Silas with Ferael.

[tender mauve]

I can't level up or ascend anymore of my heroes right now.

[idle oriole]

Mirael for kelthur and swap her with oden, put daimon in crystal and use him for grez

[white rampart]

not sure if this goes here but this is misty valley and im just trying to get past this stage, no challenges like gold

odin just crushes my team

[tender mauve]

Thank you so much!

Oof. Still got beaten.

[pearl karma]

Hekp me pls last stage before completing chap 15😄

[oblique nebula]

could anyone help? all the clears in afkhelper had 3f daimon and didn’t work well for me

[unborn folio]

Would there be a chance i could raise some character in my box to bs my way through this

Theres literally no way for me to target both shemira and the others atm

[elder gale]

39 24 i copies afk naxis but i cant seem to get energy for thoran ulr

i tried both naxis clears and they both dont get thoran the energy

[fluid meteor]

(Shemira linked to Melusina)

[safe hazel]

show me the artifacts

[warm vector]

For which one?

[safe hazel]

the current fight

[tulip dagger]

Tap the little eye bot mid

[safe hazel]

@warm vector this is roughly the rc everyone else is clearing this stage so you can defo push much further btw

[fiery wing]

nice thoran engraving

[elder gale]

that is usch bad quality to post it in lmao asta u cant read the lvls there ah nvm the thing above

[fiery wing]

btw 300 on 31 is a piece of cake

[warm vector]

How can u tell I engraved it?

[fiery wing]

u need mehira windbinder

[elder gale]

orange stars, his max engraving is 11 or 13 im not sure i have it though it was either of those bc the other things give resistances which thoran does not want

[tepid current]

Eye on raku, windbinder( if you have) on mehira. Tbh at ur rc u shud be able to just throw in daimon Rowan and 3 randoms and win

[safe hazel]

mehira WB, raku eye, lyca shroud

you NEED windbinder for that comp so do the ToG and try again

[warm vector]

Oh ok,
@fiery wing how do I get that

[tulip dagger]

Trials of God

[elder gale]

im quite sure u can just lucretia that stage putting her in slot 5 to avoid eiron pull

lyca
brutus
raine
rowan
lucreita

or
lyca
nara
raine
brutus
lucretia

[tepid current]

If you don't have windbinder, get rid of mehira. Honestly I feel like this should get u threw 31

Ferael
Rowan
Lyca
Thoran
Daimon

[elder gale]

@warm vector this will probally work

[tepid current]

At such a high rc u don't even need to use any meta comps. Just use the standard 1 carry(daimon) 1 tank 3 support

[safe hazel]

he's at multis, he needs a second team. He should defo pick up windbinder

[tepid current]

Then u just put in luc 3p for the second team. Literally luc eironn and any 3 unit

Cud use dreaf and be fine

[safe hazel]

this comp will fail quickly

[tepid current]

Probably not till ch33 tbh

[elder gale]

@safe hazel he only has 1 comp to kill look at the bottom part it doesnt have multi counter

[safe hazel]

yes but the next stage he has a multi

[elder gale]

yea he is stuck on this

[safe hazel]

much better to try and work towards meta teams

that daimon team will lose in 32 most likely

[tepid current]

I remember using something like Brutus Rowan tasi daimon ferael till like ch 34

[elder gale]

for 2 comps its not that deep
comp 1:
fereal
rowan
daimon
izold
oden

comp2 :
Lucretia
brutus
eironn
lyca
skreg? any filler tbh

[warm vector]

Sorry guys, I’m just tryna get windbinder but it’s hard af

[safe hazel]

you have silas?

[tepid current]

Ignore windbinder for now, u don't need it rn and it will be hard to do for u atm.

[safe hazel]

yes but there's no point doing random crap and go when he has components for meta teams

[elder gale]

this is his box

[safe hazel]

yes and you can do 3p + charm with that

[warm vector]

Idk

[elder gale]

dont bother with charm i didnt use it til ch 38. its alot of rng and hard to use. just do gb and lucretia for now

[tepid current]

Charm is overkill. I didn't use charm till ch35 or 36.

[safe hazel]

try full GBs and then luc cheese for the later ones

[elder gale]

izold will work up to 140 deficit

[safe hazel]

that doesn't mean it's a good comp what??

[elder gale]

@warm vector do this for multis

[safe hazel]

if he has ALL the components for it why would he not run charm

[tepid current]

It's a good comp but he doesn't need to use it

[safe hazel]

are you hearing yourself

[tepid current]

Yes? U don't need to force him to do what u did

[elder gale]

its agood comp the higher the deficit you are. at him being this overleveld its kinda wack

[safe hazel]

how am I forcing him to do anything?

[tepid current]

Cuz u keep telling him to get windbinder and use charm and were trying to tell him to just use other stuff

[safe hazel]

it just doesn't make sense for you guys to tell him to run a worse comp for no reason when he has everything for it

[tepid current]

Because he doesn't have windbinder rn..... So he doesn't have everything for it

[safe hazel]

yes because it'll be much easier for him

[tepid current]

Additionally, I don't even believe gb is a worse comp than charm at this point

[safe hazel]

that's why he gets WB and cruises through campaign rather then doing random crap and go

[elder gale]

its not a worse comp. lucretia and gb are the better comps to run lmao

[safe hazel]

that doesn't make sense to run a worse comp because it's easier?

[tepid current]

Alnaless gb is literally better than charm in many cases for him.

[warm vector]

Imma try

[dreamy mulch]

Is there anything to do here, or just wait till I get stronger? ☺️

[safe hazel]

no it isn't, charm will perform far better at deficit with his investments

[tepid current]

That's not true at all lol.

[safe hazel]

yes it will he doesn't even have grez 9/9

[elder gale]

203 izold does fine until massive deficit where he falls off which gbs he has will allow him to do. and lucretia is just 1v9 ez at this deficit

[tepid current]

U do not need grez. Daimon works perfectly fine as a 1v5 carry until higher deficits

[elder gale]

you dont need grezhul for graveborn comps

[safe hazel]

I told him to use daimon in charm........

[elder gale]

and i told him not too lmao.

[tepid current]

But u can just use normal daimon comp

[safe hazel]

normal daimon comp is FAR worse then charm in multis

[tepid current]

This is just not true in ch31

[safe hazel]

what are you guys talking about this isn't even a debate........

[elder gale]

comp 1:
fereal
rowan
daimon
izold
oden

comp2 :
Lucretia
brutus
eironn
lyca
skreg or raine / till you have skriath 3f

[safe hazel]

it is true because I just cleared ch 31 recently

daimon as a carry falls off HARD if he wants to actually push campaign

[elder gale]

this gets him to ch 34 i believe where u need 3 comps? easily

[warm vector]

Wohhooo I just beat it

[tepid current]

Normal daimon works better at lower deficits.

[warm vector]

I used the two team comps u suggested

[safe hazel]

it doesn't if he gets WB, if he can't clear the ToG that is understandable but charm will work better then GB if he gets the arti

[tepid current]

Ok. He literally just used the comps we suggested instead

He can use them till they stop working then incorporate charm. There's literally nothing wrong with that

[elder gale]

yeah thats fine that should literly get you to like atleast the 3 stage fights where you will need to start rethinking comps

but at that time you will have more units right

[safe hazel]

or he can just use charm the whole time

[tepid current]

But why? It's literally harder

[safe hazel]

it's not harder

[tepid current]

Charm is so unecessary in 31

[safe hazel]

?

[tepid current]

Why r u ? It is lol

Most people do not use charm till 3 or 4 stage multis

[safe hazel]

charm is a better comp then full on daimon carry at that point, that makes no sense at all

[tepid current]

It's one of the last comps most ppl add to their rotations.

[safe hazel]

most ppl didn't use charm BEFORE, nowadays I see a lot of ppl running charm

[elder gale]

i in my experience didnt use charm until 5 multis if not later like way later, and yes im not saying it means it doesnt work i am saying its not needed he has better options

[warm vector]

Ughh my teams stuck again smh

[elder gale]

swap team 1 and 2 around in order

[safe hazel]

he clears the ToG free pass to ch 32/33

[elder gale]

he doesnt need to and he can pass ch 32 33

[tepid current]

Bro he doesn't need charm man. Why is that so hard to understand

His rc is more than high enough to get to 33 without charm

[elder gale]

some teams work better against other units so try swapping the multi comps around in order or mirror the thing as in place units top half in bottom half and vice versa

[safe hazel]

yes but he'll need it eventually, if he wants to waste his time moving around a scuffed GB comp then that's his choice but it doesn't make sense at all

[tepid current]

But he doesn't need it now.

[elder gale]

its not really scuffed its budget. which is fine at his deficit

its cheaper version off

[safe hazel]

ok let's see how far his GB comp gets him 🙂

[elder gale]

i see people in pvp run gb without alna grezhul and they were d1 in HoE

[tepid current]

Ok it's like think about it this way. Charm is superior to ainz comp. However if someone has a 309 ainz in ch31 wud u still tell them to usel charm? It's just dumb advice. U shud tailor advice to their box and their situation

[warm vector]

Umm guys how bout Merlin or da Vinci? Should I rs them and put them in or nah?

[safe hazel]

Charm will work better then his GB if he gets WB simple as that

I've seen his box and his charm IS stronger then his GB comp without a doubt

[elder gale]

if you have merlin you might wanna use him in gb comp but i didnt see merlin in ur box?

[warm vector]

Yea I just posted the most ascended units basically

[safe hazel]

what other dims do you have?

[elder gale]

yeah but merlin is ascended if u have him since u bind him to ur ascended heroes no>?

[safe hazel]

^ bind your dims to your least used A heroes if you can

[tepid current]

If u have Merlin and ldv, link ldv to Gwyneth and Merlin to saurus.

[warm vector]

Only those two I think, how do I bind? Will I lose that unit?

[safe hazel]

you don't lose them, just without a key you can't use them in the same fight

do the links Epik just mentioned

[tepid current]

Like this. Go to temple of ascension

[elder gale]

tthis @warm vector , and no you dont lose them they share ascension but also usage so you cant use them together in the same fight. that goes fur multi stages too

[elder gale]

but since u wont ever use gwyn or saurus in PVE its fine to bind them together

[tepid current]

Once u do that. I would probably use Merlin over Oden in the gb comp.

[warm vector]

Probs gonna link gwen, also which one do I link? Da vinki or Merlin

[safe hazel]

you want to link both

[elder gale]

you link both link merlin to gwyn and davinci to saurus

[tepid current]

Do davinci to gwyn

[elder gale]

comp 1:
fereal
rowan
daimon
izold
merlin

comp2 :
Lucretia
brutus
eironn
lyca
skreg? any works jus tthrow random shit here till it works. this till you get skriath 3f then its a must in this comp

[tepid current]

Very minor but he benefits from stats just a bit more than Merlin does.

What about thoran over izold in gb? I feel like with the 9/9 and engraves on thoran he might be a better Frontline than izold. Since u don't need anyone but daimon to be doing DMG

[elder gale]

izold is also there to deal damage, at thhis deficit he can take over / thoran could be used as a stand in if the comp doesnt work like backup

[warm vector]

Guys where can I link again?

[elder gale]

temple , where u ascend shit

[warm vector]

What do I do with their signature items?

[oblique nebula]

is this even doable? Been trying all day, I only have boots on rowan and daimon T1

[elder gale]

thoran 30si then oden 30si

[tepid current]

Just unlock them for now.

[elder gale]

thoran is probally gonna be ur third comp when u get to 3 or 4 stage multis

[tepid current]

For him probs not his rc is too high and thoran is engraved.

His third comp will be charm

[elder gale]

engraving just lowers the rng aka more attempts.

yeah but then he usess thoran in his gb comp which is fine

[tepid current]

Sometimes it makes it impossible unless the deficit is even higher. Since it adds pr and mr

[safe hazel]

hold for now until you know what you're doing, probably thoran +30 next

[elder gale]

Anyone know why thoran doesnt get to ult

this comp is straight from afkhelper both version 1 and 2

[safe hazel]

his comps will be charm, thoran cheese and luc 5p. You seem to be heavily overrating GBs, it could work for easy r3 but not really solid with his investments

[tepid current]

Thoran is far less likely to work unless he can push up to like a 150 deficit. Which I doubt he can.

[safe hazel]

maybe units need to dodge a bit to give them gear

[warm vector]

So imma hold onto my si upgrades for now?

[safe hazel]

no it isn't, you can use thoran cheese at a lower deficit then that if you are patient

[royal stag]

Has Eironn good gear ?

[elder gale]

its all t2 ressonance besides thoran. who has t2 boots and weapon and e+ chestplate for accuracy

[tepid current]

Not likely with his engraves. The engraves makes the minimum deficit to work at higher

[safe hazel]

yh hold on to it for now imo, you need to decide for yourself what you want to do, and furn can give you more options

[royal stag]

Give Eironn T3 gear

[safe hazel]

engraves probably won't be that bad unless he's done more then e30

[elder gale]

hes doing his job he pulled. lmao

[safe hazel]

@warm vector how engraved is your thoran?

[tepid current]

I mean it's not that bad but it's kinda like adding 30 levels. So basically if the thoran cheese wud have worked at 90 deficit, now it wud need 120 decifict

[warm vector]

Lvl 49/60

[royal stag]

Then i cant help u rn

[elder gale]

30 levels is a bit extreme but probally 15

[tepid current]

Ah.... Ok yeah it's doomed with 49/60 lmao

That is like adding 30-40 lvls for sure

[warm vector]

Oh no 😦 but I read somewhere that engrave on thoran was worth

[elder gale]

he is high engraving prio

but prio to get to e11/13 not higher , priority is 1 thing investment level is another

[tepid current]

Does the pippa not have enough haste? It looks like Pippa is not getting her teleport off so thoran isn't generating energy

[elder gale]

pippa is 203 with t2 ressonance

[safe hazel]

stop engraving him that's a huge rip

[tepid current]

Try moving some t3 boots onto pippa

[elder gale]

t3 without being the hero in question is t2 5star gear

[tepid current]

Yes that's better than t2 resonance

[warm vector]

Damn, now I’m stuck at 31-24

[tepid current]

T2 resonance only gives u 0 star t2

[safe hazel]

it gives you t2 5*

[elder gale]

you cant say ur stuck after 5 tries lmao

[tepid current]

I meant to type t2

[elder gale]

ressonance gives u t2 5 star

[warm vector]

Haha true, it’s like one team dominates badly but the other can’t hang

[safe hazel]

try retry more you're hella overlevelled

[tepid current]

So u have t3 resonance then?

[elder gale]

i already said that... no i have t2 ressonance which gives u t2 5 star

[tepid current]

U said u had t2 resonance

T2 resonance shud only give t2 0 star no?

Go check again

[safe hazel]

t2 resonance gives you t2 0 star

t2 5* and t3 has no increase in haste iirc so just give pippa t2 5* boots

[tepid current]

It's more likely to have extra t3 boots than extra t2 5star wilder boots.

[royal stag]

Asta and epik are right

[tepid current]

Just try the t3 boots I think that's the issue @elder gale

[elder gale]

this is someone who is 402 im 416

higher lvl athalia but pippa is also t2 resonnated

[tepid current]

And u have exact same artifacts?

[elder gale]

alot of comps are using kelthur instead and neither is working for me. yep even better he has 4 star on eye i have 5 star onthoran there

[tepid current]

That's strange. In most cases when u have same lineup and arti and it's not working at all it's something to do with haste.

[elder gale]

il try this i geuss

[royal stag]

Give Skriath and Eironn better gear

[elder gale]

found this one atlevel 409 which i might be able to pull

[tepid current]

It even could be a case where eironn does actually need better gear to survive a second longer

So thoran can generate a bit more energy

[elder gale]

this is getting thoran to ult il spam this for like an hour

[tepid current]

As long as he ults ur good to go then

[slate turtle]

Its impossible to beat this stage

[gleaming yew]

Try swapping talene and damion

[tepid current]

Do u have any purple emblems? It looks like daimons si isn't even unlocked

[magic kelp]

need help getting through this stage, daimon dies no matter where i put him, ezizh can only stun one so fawkes eats daimon or mira nukes team

[wanton pelican]

Please help

[royal stag]

U beat 39-24 r2 ?

[elder gale]

nope

[elder gale]

been on auto for like a while now

[royal stag]

U can try this

[elder gale]

i already have, with way better gear on all 4 other members and i dont get enough energy for thoran ult

t2 ressonance on all 4memebers , so only kelthur would be weaker as urs since urs has t3

[wanton pelican]

^

[royal stag]

U tried it with T3 gear on him ?

[elder gale]

not with t3 gear on him but with t2 on every single other component. aka better gear on skriath eironn and athalia and since u have t3 gear that isnt his on him that means its t2 5star which is a small diff with t2 0 star

[royal stag]

Try it out why not

[cosmic marten]

Hey guys, I just started playing the game about a week ago and just want a opinion on how to make my team better or if it’s even good? Any criticism is welcome.

[coral pier]

I am starting to sound like a broken record, but please read the beginner guides pinned in #classic-questions . You should be ascending fodder heroes to L+ at this point of the game and not random ascended tier ones. Especially Saurus and Gwyneth are really bad early investments.

[cosmic marten]

Thank you

[fiery wing]

fereal (no weapon)

thoran
daimon
brutus
nara

[slate turtle]

I rlly need help

[empty ibex]

Any ideas?

[coral pier]

You are at about the standard power deficit for c11. You could play around with positioning and different supports but levelling up a bit might be the solution.

[viral roost]

last fight for chapter 23 is annoying (the celestial is a boss)

[viral roost]

anyone?

[obsidian tangle]

Help. Me

[obsidian tangle]

Talene and raku damion the other talene rosaline

[viral roost]

can't use both talenes

[obsidian tangle]

Two different talents

Talene

[viral roost]

I'm telling you i can't, even though they are "different" you can't use them together :(

[obsidian tangle]

Ok

And use miskraam

Mismatch

Mishka

Try it

[obsidian tangle]

Did it work

[viral roost]

i straight up cannot do that bro

[obsidian tangle]

Did u see wat I said one second ago

[viral roost]

mb lol

i'll try it

[obsidian tangle]

Ok

[viral roost]

they all just insta die :(

[obsidian tangle]

Same with mine

Let me show u ok

Hard

[gray sierra]

hey which heros better for progress i stuck at 11-35

[idle oriole]

Check pins in #classic-questions

[frigid aspen]

so close to ch 22 :,)

[unborn folio]

Not me still trying to beat this thing

Shemira heals before i can kill her

[idle oriole]

Try swapping talene and Brutus and swap out brutus for tasi/lyca

[slate turtle]

Is it impossible to beat this stage

[unborn folio]

tasi is useless since she dies first second and cant get her ult up... ever...

[idle oriole]

Daimon
-thoran/mishka
Ezizh
-Brutus
Ferael maybe

[unborn folio]

I think I've tried like 40 team rotations by now

[idle oriole]

Put better gear on her, she just needs to banish in the start then she can die

[unborn folio]

she has the best gear lmao

[slate turtle]

Can you help me

[idle oriole]

Then it’s rng ig

[idle oriole]

Lyca
-Brutus/golus
Daimon
-talene
Nara
Can swap positions around just keep Nara on isabella

[unborn folio]

i like how oden ults but never targets Shemira with his ult

[idle oriole]

Yea lmao it’s annoying when he doesn’t target the one u want

[slate turtle]

I dont got lyca

[idle oriole]

Ah rip u can try ferael instead

[unborn folio]

Shemiras basically an unbeatable Issabella

its to the point where shemiras hp bar literally has no red anymore but she still doesnt die

[viral roost]

bumping this since im still stuck :(

[unborn folio]

Being stuck on stages is fuckin great

[frigid aspen]

that worked ty!

[idle oriole]

Noice

[unborn folio]

i swear to fucking god if i beat the stage someday and it says it took me 300 runs-

[idle oriole]

I remember just using Nara opposite her worked most of the time, with grez shield on her it can be tricky tho. So I guess Nara vs Angelo is best to counter his heals

[viral roost]

im stuck on the LAST fight on a chapter rn. tell me about it.

[idle oriole]

29-58 took me 545

[unborn folio]

And I'm being time gated and only have 9 days to reach AND complete chapter 21, meaning any stage im stuck on is wasting a ton of time. Tell me about it.

[idle oriole]

Does grez carry for u?

[viral roost]

wdym time gated? what's that

[unborn folio]

Its a challenge from another game

Time gated means I have a time limit for something

[viral roost]

yes but no, i usually use him but i got through some stages that he wasn't good for without him

[unborn folio]

Can daimon not kill shemira because shes his mother or something because jesus christ im doing something wrong here

[idle oriole]

Who do u use as main dps then, daimon? I feel like raku can’t do much at +10

[idle oriole]

Lmao

[unborn folio]

daimons rebellious phase is not working

[viral roost]

awakened talene, scarlet, raku kinda. i got a ton of tanks with high levels but my dps is kinda underleveled

[safe hazel]

arden
>golus
awk talene
>daimon
nara

[unborn folio]

reset your high level tanks and level your main dps more

Your dps should have 20-40 more levels than your supports

[viral roost]

look at my heroes bro. can't really level any dps up

[unborn folio]

oh yea i forgot you're like level 200

[viral roost]

ascension too low sadly.

[unborn folio]

Great you reminded me i need 25k dust to get daimon to 181

[idle oriole]

U can try
daimon
-grez
Rowan
-Brutus
Lyca
U wanna kill lucius before he ults and stall athalia and thane before they wreck ur team

Idk how much daimon do at L tho

[viral roost]

ath is a boss btw

[idle oriole]

Yea ik

[viral roost]

aight ima run that a few times

[idle oriole]

Might take more than a few 💀, gl tho

[viral roost]

im runnin afk on blustacks so i can leave a macro on lol

hope it's allowed since it doesn't give me any serious advantage

[unborn folio]

i sleep knowing everyday that afk arena devs probably spent an hour brainstorming how complex they should make each stage for each chapter

[idle oriole]

That’s good, most ppl start macroing mid-late game

[idle oriole]

[viral roost]

i wish awakaned ezizh could freeze the damn athelia >:(

[idle oriole]

Usually Brutus is enough to stall her

[viral roost]

also this is pretty good but athelia uses ult too early for me to kill lucius

also she pretty much decimates everyone with 1 ult

aight time to run the macro for a few min

see ya later

[idle oriole]

U can try swapping daimon and Rowan, but yea apart from that idk sry 💀

[viral roost]

welp looks like im gonna be stuck on that until i level someone up

[clever patio]

can merc anyone

[royal stag]

Athalia is ur best choice i guess

[clever patio]

alr

[low crane]

I have hit a wall please help , need advice

[idle oriole]

check pins in #classic-questions

[low crane]

Pins or do you mean i should ask there?

[idle oriole]

theres some useful guides in the pins in that channel that'll help

[low crane]

Oh i see , okay thanks

[idle oriole]

[pearl karma]

What awaken hero i need to choose in temple of time!?!?!?

[tame berry]

good account reeroll?

[coral pier]

1. Rerolling in this game is not really worth it unless you made really big mistakes
2. Yes, really good.

[safe hazel]

Yh just make sure you set ur wishlist up properly

[tame berry]

thanks got rosaline

[safe hazel]

U already read the beginner guide? That looks pretty solid tbf tho

[tame berry]

ima go read it but thanks

[safe hazel]

Yh read the one pinned on #classic-questions that daimon copy is huge but I’d advise against lucius etc

[errant hornet]

getting stuck on this stage

[silent moss]

try this a few times if its close keep going
oden
brutus
nara
rowan
daimon

[shy panther]

What lineup should i use for this?

[errant hornet]

nope not rlly close

[silent moss]

https://afkhelper.nax.is/ give this website a try you can look up more clears of that stage

[still rock]

Who should take in my team ?

[shy panther]

Check pins in #classic-questions

Link to msg - #classic-questions message

[still rock]

thanks

[still rock]

i still dunno who to use in my line up tho

[limpid shell]

Should i swap any or are they fine as is?

[languid phoenix]

Who should I be using?

[shy panther]

What heros should i use?

[tiny terrace]

Looking for some lineup help

Last time I played was when i started playing the game during the persona 5 crossover event

[unborn folio]

trying to target both Issabella and Shemira, anything I could do?

[unreal plover]

My last team sucks who can I put on it?

[fiery wing]

i rather start a fresh one

[tiny terrace]

Rip oh well good chance to jog my memory again on how to play properly

[frozen harness]

You only need to win 3 fights so concentrate your lineup in 3 solid teams

[unreal plover]

It’s more for campaign because these are also the teams I use in campaign

[still rock]

Could someone please help me build a goood team

[slender robin]

Ideas? I’ve lost track of what I’ve tried at this point 😭

[frozen harness]

You need teams for HoE? I can help - for campaign you can look on afkhelper clears and see what teams are best

[frozen harness]

Tough box, actually crazy that you got this far. I would guess 1 team with ainz carry, 1 team with ezio carry and last one maybe shemira

[slender robin]

Ill give that a go! yeah.. i took some time off but still checked in to claim stuff haha

[unreal plover]

That usually doesn’t really help me because almost no one has the same heroes I do and they all need to be a certain level. I was looking for help from here so that I could get more advice based on what I have

[frozen harness]

I could name the teams but basically Tank infront, carries in the back with support

[frozen harness]

Makes sense, you should post your stage so we can see. Your teams are Gb's+(Alna?), Ainzbedo, Charm+Raku, Skreg+Raku invade, 5pull+Lucretia

[unborn folio]

Someone help me I need to figure out how to target Isabella without Shemira killing Daimon or target Shemira without Isabella killing Daimon

[livid vale]

I keep dying here

Idk what to do really 😭

[pale kettle]

Which characters should I prioritize in the crystal out of these? (I don't have many slots maybe like 6 or 7 slots)

[pale kettle]

should i put new hero on my wishlist?

[languid phoenix]

Am I using the right peeps

[spark flame]

Any improvements to this form?

[slate turtle]

Started 1 week ago

Just got my firat garrison ainz

[pale kettle]

pls help, which 5 should I use in my team???

[wide shuttle]

Help please even Stuck here for days it's very infuriating

[twilit turtle]

@errant hornet try this

[errant hornet]

aight thank you!

[idle oriole]

@pale kettle @spark flame @languid phoenix @pale kettle read pins in #classic-questions

[idle oriole]

Don’t put daimon in front of spear guy, can swap him and talene, also do u have nara?

[livid vale]

Yeah I have her

[idle oriole]

Swap her for Rosaline, u need to cc isabella cos her ult will kill ur team

[pale kettle]

Try to put daimon in Backlines. Have talene in the front since she will revive.

and Make sure he is your first ascended chara. You can push it With good RNG

[livid vale]

I thought Oden would’ve been of some use

[livid vale]

I have the 8 copies, just need 1 more fodder lol

[pale kettle]

Talene(healer) Brutus Rowan Daimon and Lyca

That can push up to chapter 26, with good RNG

[livid vale]

Brutus is only Elite for me as of now, is that alright?

[pale kettle]

YES. As long as it has the Immunity

That immunity will give Daimon to attack with his Ult

Patience and RNG will get you ahead lmao

[pale kettle]

Give time to daimon to attack* and recharge his ult

[sharp rapids]

Need some help with making 5 teams. Trying to push 10K but just don't feel like my lineups are optimal enough and I'm losing things I shouldn't be. These are my current teams, and are my strongest heros currently

Can't send my full roster for some reason because it's being flagged for "explicit content"

I have a M+ Warek not shown there too

[idle oriole]

try drawing a line on it or putting a filter over it. Usually fixes it

[sharp rapids]

It worked! Lines are who's fused, K notes the Dimensional key

And the bottom rows you couldn't see. Sorry for the image spam

[safe hazel]

you can try
ainz
>arthur
mortas
>albedo
merlin

you don't have a lot of meta heroes built, I'm not sure how to make more solid teams

team 3 I'd replace scarlet for daimon

and silas for raku

[sharp rapids]

Yeah, I've kinda neglected PvP meta and was building for Campaign, towers, and TW

[safe hazel]

then team 4 you can try
twins
>luc
rowan
>lyca
ezizh

[sharp rapids]

I can't do that unless I move the key from Ferael to Daimon. Which would make team 3 lose Ferael

Actually, I could probably swap merlin fuse with a lower star character couldn't I?

[safe hazel]

use lucius, morrow, izold and saurus as links

then use a key for ainz for a higher prio link, or shem could work

[sharp rapids]

I've valued higher stars on dimensionals slightly high. Guessing it doesn't make that much of a difference does it?

[sharp rapids]

Currently have it linked with Shem to give Ainz all the stats he can get

[safe hazel]

nrlly outside ainz

you need to get albedo and raku +30 asap tho

[sharp rapids]

Okay, then I'll do that. Daimon being free is amazing

Albedo > Raku, yes?