lineup-help

[royal stag]

Any Brutus copy ?

[errant hornet]

yea i have him at e+

[royal stag]

Put him in ur Crystal and use him

For Thoran or Silas

[rugged hull]

Should I swap skirath with silas

[idle oriole]

no xd

[elder sand]

@royal stag thanks beat that stage 🙂 with ur teamsetups i just changed some heroes in ainz comp 🙂 rest went smooth thanks

[royal stag]

🥳

[frank ridge]

Satrana rolls my team while hendrick saves one from death. Tried diff comps and positions to no success. Trying to merc a scarlett but none of my friends are giving :(

[sharp ravine]

try finding it in #mercenary

[unborn folio]

Any Tips? I can try anyone in my box except Oden.

[idle oriole]

U need Nara to hook isabella cos she’ll kill ur whole team. Maybe
Nara

• Thoran/Golus
  Mirael
  -Tasi to bait silvina
  Daimon

Ur at a fairly high deficit so things might take some retries. In any case with the 100 scroll event on Wednesday you’ll be able to boost some chapters hopefully

[unborn folio]

Used Nara to Hook Nara before, the results were: Nara nearly kills Issabella, Silvina targets Mirael and causes her to ult backwards instead of at the other enemies. Everyone jumps the tanks, before ending Mirael and Daimon.

For some reason Silvina isnt baited by Tasi, do i need to swap out my gears or something

[idle oriole]

Maybe use oden or arden instead, tasi’s teleport might mess with silvina targeting

[unborn folio]

Oden moves Golus, which causes everyone to target Alna before targetting Daimon and Mirael

[idle oriole]

I mean in this lineup

[unborn folio]

I could try Tasi again but i doubt Silvina would be baited

Iv been doing this stage for nearly two days lol

Well, Silvina does get baited, but Tasi gets one hit since shes at the front lines

[idle oriole]

Yea that’s fine, so long as she’s in front of mirael?

[unborn folio]

If my thoran was leveled higher he could probably win against the last two enemies

[idle oriole]

Could be level issue idk, in any case just retry some stuff for the next day or 2 until the free scrolls

[unborn folio]

Yea its mostly a level issue and a lack of a healer that can heal fast

My rng is quite sad so i've only gotten enough fodders to L+ Silvina and Mirael

[idle oriole]

Tbh I never had any healers but yea

[idle oriole]

Rip

[unborn folio]

I mean healers arent necessary if you can output large enough dmg before any of your heroes can die

But im level capped so i do need a healer

[idle oriole]

Hve u tried ainz?

[unborn folio]

Ainz ults way too slow even with duras call

God my account is unlucky

[idle oriole]

Rip, I mean u could try taking out mirael for oden or smthin and hope daimon can carry a bit but lvls might be too low

[unborn folio]

Yea Daimon cant output enough dmg on his own, not till i can ascend him

[idle oriole]

I mean stuff takes time in this game, most ppl don’t get loads of gud copies off the bat

[idle oriole]

Past 121 he can do fine even at E+. At least for me until like chap 13

[unborn folio]

Yea but for my specific challenge it kinda requires me to be lucky, so I've basically given up on the challenge

[idle oriole]

Rip xd

[unborn folio]

I COULD do this but id piss off alot of people

[grim copper]

I'm still stuck, chat, any ideas?

[idle oriole]

Yea haha probably don’t

Tried oden for fane?

[oblique nebula]

tbh if u ain’t planning to play after ur challenge, why not

[grim copper]

yep

[unborn folio]

I am planning but not as active, i usually spend like 4-6 hours trying to progress at SOMETHING in this game everyday

[grim copper]

same

[polar wasp]

Is there anything I should change with my lineup?

[fathom shuttle]

stuck on chapter 17 stage 40 last stage to get to 18 having trouble with this one fight anyone got any ideas how i can change up my formation or who i should use to possibly clear it by any chance? followed the guides till here an pins so just working with what i have now any help would be appreciated thankyou

[daring sequoia]

help me please !

[idle oriole]

swap tasi and nara, swap lyca and daimon

[fathom shuttle]

heyy could you give me a hand or some advice with mine above if your free to pleaseeee?

[idle oriole]

Do u have nara or oden?

[fathom shuttle]

i do not sadly

thats all i have to work with thata are half decent

this is the rest

but there only elite nothing else

[idle oriole]

U can try
oden
-thoran/Brutus
Daimon
-talene
Lyca

[fathom shuttle]

ok i dont have oden so is it possible to go like thoran brutus daimon talene lyca?

[idle oriole]

Oden is the grave born bottom right here

[fathom shuttle]

an also in that order to like thoran then brutus daimon at top talene middle lyca bottom?

[fathom shuttle]

rip didnt even realise i had him haha

does it matter there only elite tho? ill put them in my crystal him an brutus

[idle oriole]

No problem lol, but yea the “-“ means frontline

[idle oriole]

It shouldn’t matter that much

[fathom shuttle]

sweet thanks an then daimon top talene middle lyca bottom? you reckon like that?
an cool no worries ill try it out thankyou

its that regen mauler dude hes a pain heals the whole party an those totem things namura aint bad to handle but hes annoying lol

[idle oriole]

From position 1 to 5 it’s
Thoran/ Brutus, talene, oden, daimon, lyca

[idle oriole]

Yea he’s annoying lol

[fathom shuttle]

alr sweet thanks man ill gear them up an give it a shot appreciated

[idle oriole]

Gluck 👍

[fathom shuttle]

just quickly sorry which grace would be nicest for oden an brutus between these i have

[idle oriole]

Eye on oden

[fathom shuttle]

alr cool an any on brutus ? maybe the hp 10% one?

[idle oriole]

chalice is probably fine ye

[fathom shuttle]

ty ty

[grand perch]

Hello @wispy tusk,

Please check out the pinned messages/guides in the #classic-questions and #lineup-help channels.

[daring sequoia]

needing help!

[atomic lynx]

What can I do?

[slate turtle]

Best line up for what u got

[proper relic]

Plz use mercs plz help me

[pearl karma]

Tips

[errant hornet]

getting stuck on this stage

[pearl karma]

Have someone to stun saveas or cancel his super attack@errant hornet

[idle oriole]

u can try
ezizh
thoran
oden
brutus
daimon
if totem dude's heals are too annoying then swap oden and ezizh

[pearl karma]

Tips its annoying stage

[idle oriole]

can u post ur box

[pearl karma]

This is with some heroes under tha

[idle oriole]

u can try using eironn instead of oden to pull isabella but other than that idk rip

[pearl karma]

Ok ill try thank you

And is ot btw usefull to buy nightmare emergence @idle oriole

Pieces the first 2

[idle oriole]

Yea i think its good value for 200 diamonds

[pearl karma]

Ok but will i get something if i hsve all of them

[idle oriole]

yea u get 10 temple of time cards but dont use them

[pearl karma]

Temple of time cards where k can use cause i get alot but idk what to do

I got 10 akready

[idle oriole]

it probably unlocks later, its like stargazer but only for awakened heroes

[pearl karma]

It unlocks at 16-1 or vip lvl 13

[idle oriole]

yup

[pearl karma]

Ok so ill buy foor 200 the 2 missing if its usefull

30 march to 13 april is by event free rewards but what kind kf rewards i didnt get any lol

[idle oriole]

I think it just means in that time period there are events that give free rewards like Honorable offerings etc

[pearl karma]

Oh ok

Cant wait to wendsday lol 100 free summons i heard😀😂

[idle oriole]

haha yea, u get 100 over 3 days so on Wednesday 20 Thursday 30 and friday 50

[pearl karma]

Damnn pretty nice

Im dutch so everything thats free is fine to take lol🤣

[idle oriole]

[pearl karma]

But you think we get 100 of that briefcases things or should there stay 100 free remaining

[idle oriole]

briefcases thing?

[pearl karma]

100 common scrolls i mean

And what are btw twisted eccense and what are poe coins ehh

[idle oriole]

yea everyone gets 100 common scrolls

[pearl karma]

Oh ok sick

[idle oriole]

twisted essence is used to level up your elder tree and poe coins are used to buy furniture for ur heroes in the oak inn

[pearl karma]

So i can save them up

[pearl karma]

Oh so i can use alot twisted essence in elder tree

Ok for poe coins i need to grind alot before i can use them kts like 5 chapters away

[idle oriole]

yea no need to worry about it yet

[pearl karma]

Ye ahah

But how and where at ekder tree i can use twisted essence

What should i choose tomorrow

[idle oriole]

choose red chests

[pearl karma]

Ok ill

[idle oriole]

its in the library

[pearl karma]

I only need to find the effect of that thing cause have 10 chest remaning and have akot of that badges but that comes later i think

[pearl karma]

Yea i got it lvl 11 but twisted essence idk where in the tree to use

[idle oriole]

red chests? they're used to upgrade sig items from 20 to 30. U need 300 to get 1 hero from 20 to 30

[idle oriole]

after u get it lvl 15 you'll be able to use it

[pearl karma]

Ohh ok sorry i cant use it then

[pearl karma]

Ok i didnt unlocked sig items yet didnt got any mythic hero yet

[idle oriole]

yea its fine but its good to start saving early

[pearl karma]

Ive like 2 of each rn😂

[idle oriole]

haha nice, but if ur choosing them from the red chests u dont need to, the game does it automatically when u use them to upgrade a sig

[pearl karma]

Oh so i can save the chests and if i upgrade it choose automatically the good badges out of the chest

[idle oriole]

yup

[pearl karma]

Ok

[errant hornet]

stuck on this stage

[idle oriole]

swap ezizh and rowan and then swap out rowan for oden

[pale kettle]

Yo look at this

[digital skiff]

What

[primal flame]

My game currently isn't working so I'll just say it. My team is Talene, Ezizh, Tasi, Oden, Shemira and I just got rowan but idk if I should build him and put him on the team or not

[digital skiff]

You should read pins

[digital skiff]

Daimon
Brtus
Rowan
Tasi
Oden

[primal flame]

Im new (to discord and afk arena) what/where r pins

[digital skiff]

Pins in #classic-questions @primal flame

[cunning warren]

what

[queen path]

After a longer break i got a small boost and pretty much 1 shot through 18, 19. I am 3,4m overall power atm and struggle at the start of 20

[silent moss]

drop talene for this battle then do this
ainz
lucious
rowan
lyca
nara

[smoky yew]

Anyone got any team suggestions I’m on chap 26-22

[silent moss]

daimon
brutus
rowan
thoran
oden

[smoky yew]

Is it fine if my oden is E+

[silent moss]

yup

[smoky yew]

Okay thanks

[silent moss]

yup its cleared with that at 220 so you should be able to clear it just retry it till its done

[pale kettle]

Any mauler thats helpful for this stage?

[smoky yew]

That level was disgusting

[pale kettle]

yeah im getting destroyed

[smoky yew]

Question

Do you put your best gear off your main camp characters onto the characters you use on the faction towers

[pale kettle]

yeah

[smoky yew]

hmm

Do u have any other maulers

[pale kettle]

those

[smoky yew]

Get skraith in the crystal

[unborn folio]

Anything i could do? Trying to kill Brutus first if its possible

I've almost beaten this stage 40 times now but Brutus always uses his damn shield when he has a slimmer / no hp left

[smoky yew]

try

Wait who’s ainz linked with

[unborn folio]

Silvina

[smoky yew]

hmm

[unborn folio]

I finally managed to beat 12-4 after half a day, idk what nara did but she one hit Brutus while he was in his shield

[smoky yew]

Try
Nara
-thoran
Mirael
-daimon
Ainz

[unborn folio]

I have tried ainz before

[smoky yew]

ahh

[unborn folio]

His ultimate was way too slow since i had to swap duras call in between daimon, mirael, and ainz

[smoky yew]

Ahh okay

[unborn folio]

Thank god i beat that but theres probably gonna be more stages with brutus

[smoky yew]

Definitely

It gets way worse in the 20+ chapters

[vital mist]

Ainz is pointless to use without Mythic and some signature item

[unborn folio]

Ik, I'm gonna try investing in daimon first though

[slate burrow]

What should i focus on ??

[oblique nebula]

Any thoughts? Can’t stall enough for daimon

[arctic laurel]

Just got Arthur, who should I link it to?

[smoky yew]

any ideas?

[smoky yew]

Who do you mainly use in camp or wtv u mainly focus on

[arctic laurel]

That's my Main team, trying to push through

[smoky yew]

Use it him on kren

or thoran if ur not using him

[arctic laurel]

Not using thoran at this moment

Kren is soon to be A too, but I only use him for tower

[smoky yew]

Then yeah use kren

[idle oriole]

Can try swapping daimon and ezizh

[idle oriole]

U can try swapping Rowan for Brutus but it’s probably just Rng after that. If it’s not getting close u can try
Nara
-Brutus/thoran
Rowan
-daimon
Ferael (remove weapon)

[smoky yew]

I completed it lol but now I’m stuck on a even worse stage

Nvm

[errant hornet]

stuck on this stage

[digital skiff]

Daimon
Brutus
Rowan
Tasi
Oden

[pale kettle]

U can also use this Formation without Oden but Cecilia on His Spot, If U have one, E is enough

[digital skiff]

Not necessarily

[pale kettle]

Just gets easier with her

[digital skiff]

Not necessarily against Isabella

Especially E cecil

[willow wedge]

I’m fairly new so I don’t have much chance to beat this atm but any ideas for 10-28 I can try? I have 1 slot open on resonance crystal also

[idle oriole]

U can try swapping oden out for Nara since I guess silvina is jumping on oden anyways

[willow wedge]

Saveas just shreds everything, Nara doesn’t even work on him when I put her mid

Not sure why really

[idle oriole]

Nara shouldn’t pull saveas, she’s just there to pull spider chick so she doesn’t cocoon daimon

[idle oriole]

U can try something like
Ferael/Arden
-hogan
Rowan
-golus
Daimon
But ur at a fairly high deficit so it could take some retries

[willow wedge]

No luck, guess this is my wall for the time being

[hollow frost]

Help I stuck lol

[idle oriole]

Swap ainz and ezizh?

[hollow frost]

Don't work

[versed maple]

Can anyone help? Pleeeeaaase. 🥺

Also I’m not stargazing talene anymore

[digital skiff]

Replace oden witha arden

[oblique nebula]

is there a way to beat this? I managed to kill 2 camps with same power but this is insanely hard

[frank atlas]

Help for better line up pls thanks

[smoky yew]

Instead of saurus use ainz

[oblique nebula]

his ult doesn’t even take half of enemy’s health

[smoky yew]

Whattt

[sacred panther]

Currently running: FL: Daimon and Talene, BL: Tasi, Rowan and Ezizh. It’s honestly just the team that seems to be working I have no idea regarding the synergy. Should I stick with it or is there a better team I should use for my level?

[oblique nebula]

yh unless I’m doing smth wrong.
I’m using daimon, rowan, ezizh and PoP with him

[smoky yew]

Only main issue

Tbh is thali once she gets her ult that ball will ruin ur career

[oblique nebula]

well I used Mortas with him, and he actually killed 2 but then all my team died

[idle oriole]

Try mercing Lucretia she can carry all PoT’s

[idle oriole]

It usually depends on the stage but that seems fine, eventually you’d probably wanna use ferael over tasi

[idle oriole]

If u haven’t already, read the pinned beginner guides in #classic-questions

[frank atlas]

Thanks

[oblique nebula]

good idea ty hopefully this works

[sacred panther]

Ic thanks, didn’t know Ferael was good. Also I heard Lucretia is good and I got her from my first stargazing but not sure why she’s good yet haha I assume she’s only good later on?

[idle oriole]

yea once u can get ferael to M his +10 is helpful and later on his furn as well. Yea Luc starts to be able to carry at M+30

[sacred panther]

oh lol i'm no where near

[sacred panther]

should I be focusing on levelling Talene or Daimon?

wait also just one more question cause I just realised what is M +10? Signature weapon level?

[idle oriole]

Daimon

[sacred panther]

right thanks

[idle oriole]

yea its sig item

[sacred panther]

before I've just been dumping gear onto Talene but today I managed to get Daimon from Gold (lvl140) border to Mythic+ (180)haha

[idle oriole]

noice, daimon will carry u for a long time

[sacred panther]

does he focus on hp or atk or does it not matter?

[idle oriole]

rly high dps and survivability with good supports

[sacred panther]

👍

I probably should've asked in question channel but either way this is my final question haha sorry and thanks. At what point in the game do I start saving gems? I've just been summoning every time I get 2700. If I do use gems should I use it on Stargazing or just summons? I currently just got on chp 17

[idle oriole]

u dont ever rly need to save gems, u can start using diamonds on stargazing when u have 15-20 Ascended heroes, until then just keep using it on normal summons

[sacred panther]

ascended? oh thats really far away since I only have 2 mythics haha

[idle oriole]

yea lol dont worry about it, my first ascended was only in chapter 22 or something

[sacred panther]

ic

[blissful needle]

Hi guys, cab u help me plz make best 3 teams for heroes of esperia?

[dry marten]

Please help me with the stage, my problem is that either daimon can’t ult because too much cc, or isabella just kill him through shield with her skill

[pearl karma]

@dry marten can try oden instead of rowan and switch it with the bow guy

And maybe the horse girl forgot her name in the frontline@dry marten

[dry marten]

Horse girl instead of talene?

I have 2 more spot in resonate crystal sth too, i’m thinking of putting Tasi in to stall, but I’m not sure that’s how she works

[pearl karma]

Ye i think an do you have maybe nara or eironn for stunning/pulling the lvl 173 under of the opponent

Sry my english is bad

[dry marten]

I understand everything clearly, i do have Nara, let me give it a try

[pearl karma]

Ok, if it wont work i dont know😅😂

[dry marten]

ye it's doesn't work, unlucky, she's dead before she can stun, i guess i'll just wait for lvup

@pearl karma lol on the other hand, it's worked, but not with nara, I had a lucky crit on Isabella and it's done

[pearl karma]

Nicee

[hushed dragon]

I have been following Tree3’s guide and it is going reasonably well. I have come up against an issue, my Mirael is limited now by ascension level and I haven’t pulled a copy of Daimon. Any advice?

[fiery wing]

nothing just go with the flow and dont do mistakes

[hushed dragon]

Okay, I’ll hold my horses. Thank you

[keen rain]

any idea how to beat this stage? been stuck for a few days now

[wild tangle]

Maybe remove pop for Oden!

Thoran
Daimon
Ferael
Rowan
Oden

Oden and Ferael interchangeable, meaning keep trying which one might work (rng)!

[wild tangle]

You should be fine until 160 lvl cap with those fodders heroes! Make sure you are using faction scrolls on GB faction tho!

[hushed dragon]

@wild tangle Affirmative, I think I’ve seen 15 or so faction scrolls and they have all gone to GB. Thank you.

[wild tangle]

Yeah you’ll get more faction scrolls after chapter completion (idr until what chapter it was) like 20-25 per chapter and a free elite hero from quests and from wondering balloons. Also do the candy crush for free faction scrolls!

[frank atlas]

@silk ibex

[silk ibex]

Try swapping Ezizh with Oden

[limpid pumice]

Can I get some help on this

[coral pier]

What does your normal team look like?

[limpid pumice]

Usually grezhul and Lyca at front and daimon ,baba yaga and a support at the back

[blissful needle]

Lyca
Daimon
Numisu
Grezhul
Oden

Try this

Or try tanks back row at this lvl

[limpid pumice]

Silvana just kills omen off the start

Then everyone dies and daimon is in a 1v4

[blissful needle]

Try tanks at the back
Smth like

Lyca
Daimon
Mishka
Grezhul
Any supp

To protect daimon before he ults

[frozen sundial]

I've been trying for 4 hours... Any other comps? (I know what AFK Helper is 🙂 )

[coral pier]

It's a 214 deficit Flora stage. Figuring out a non Thoran comp takes hours of testing. If it is not on afk helper you might be out of luck.

[frozen sundial]

I've seen some Lucretias. Idk, guess I will stall

[daring sequoia]

help plz

[coral pier]

Why is Nara trying to pull Warek?

[frozen sundial]

Nara
Daimon
Lyca
Brutus
Tasi

[coral pier]

Or put in some more attempts I guess. Having call on Thoran might help in this case to get 2nd ult off faster.

[frozen sundial]

4 hours already

changed the team comp now with hypo and 3 faction bonus

[daring sequoia]

idk, that’s just how i’ve been flying through chapter 22 with that formation

[coral pier]

Nara isn't a character you can have at the same position on every stage. You should use her pull to target dangerous enemies.

Like in this case Arden or Nemora

[daring sequoia]

oh

[wanton pelican]

Please help me

[idle oriole]

do u hve nara

[wanton pelican]

I showed you what I have, so no

[spark crater]

What is the good heroes i should use

[idle oriole]

hm well u can first try
ferael
-thoran
oden
-rowan
daimon
if arden roots r annoying u can try eironn opposite him. U can swap oden and daimon around too

[idle oriole]

check pinned beginner guides in #classic-questions

[wanton pelican]

I tried and it didn't work

[idle oriole]

rowan
-Daimon
oden
-thoran
ferael/pop
it's just gonna come down to positioning I guess

[atomic lynx]

What can I do for a line up

[frozen sundial]

Swap Raku with Lyca and you should be able to clear this stage with those heroes

Actually, why aren't you using your L+ fodder heroes? Atm, they are the strongest in your roaster

[unkempt field]

39-4-r5 can't seem to make it work, any ideas?

[twin hare]

Is it likely to be possible to thoran cheese this stage? I'm aware of the afk helper solutions; i've used charmizard, lucretia, ainz and alna/gb for the other 4 stages (cheese didn't work for stage 1 for me), so low on options but reluctant to reset...

[gloomy lark]

@unkempt field

[royal stag]

@unkempt field im not sure about the positions

[gloomy lark]

I need help, I tried everything 😩

[unkempt field]

I guess my rc is too high

[gloomy lark]

replay battles with different teams

[lusty wadi]

Tips?

[royal stag]

Ur Flora's si is activated i guess thats the issue

[unkempt field]

Flora no items

[gloomy lark]

@lusty wadi , try to catch the faction bonus

[lusty wadi]

I tried with Talene

[gloomy lark]

Talene, when she dies, there will be no time for resurrection...

if you put Raku against estrilda, does he survive?

[lusty wadi]

Nope

nvm i got it

[summer wagon]

Thoughts on lineup?

[wanton pelican]

thank you finally, beat the stage

[digital skiff]

Your deficit is too low

[twin hare]

Yeah thanks, i've given up and reset

[digital skiff]

Ya

[proper relic]

Any tips?

Sifiya is wrecking me once she uses ability

[idle oriole]

maybe
silas
-thoran
nara
-daimon
rowan

[idle oriole]

u can try
ferael
-thoran
oden
-rowan
daimon
to see if oden ports brutus and daimon targets saveas early

[proper relic]

Coming very close, feel like i could do it with rng

[idle oriole]

gluck

[pearl karma]

Some help pls this stage is annoying

[proper relic]

MYbe eiron instead of nara?

[idle oriole]

try it yea

[versed light]

Any thoughts?

[wanton pelican]

No, Brutus goes ahead and kill Rowan and Daimon, making way for the spider lady to kill oden

[cunning warren]

why so many L heroes

[wanton pelican]

BEginner mistake

[flat acorn]

I need a 40-8-5 ainz comp without LDV because I'm a moron and was just short of exchanging him, and I don't have Mishka properly built. AFK Helper only has those two options 😔

Any alternatives?

[pearl karma]

Stucked hekp

Its annoying

[hollow frost]

I need help pls

[spare girder]

How do people beat this guy?

[hollow frost]

Saurus @spare girder

[spare girder]

Didn't work

[hollow frost]

Like saurus ferel and cc or energy sup

[spare girder]

He's immune to those things, it's temporal rift

[hollow frost]

Opala

[spare girder]

I re-checked apparently he wasn't immune to energy drain... Ferael helped me clear thanks!

[thin sky]

Best line up i can make you chapter 8?

[hollow frost]

Np

[lime aspen]

Who should I build and who should I use

[azure dew]

is this viable?

[thick nova]

Any suggestions please ?

[crystal vale]

I've messed up when it comes to investing, so could someone please help me squeeze some formations out of what I DO have so I can earn the diamonds to catch back up?

[coral pier]

Yeah I can see some interesting heroes you have build. What kind of level deficit are you pushing in campaign?

[crystal vale]

I'm at 37-44. Level matchup is 391 vs. 522.

[coral pier]

So generally, what do your 5 comps look like?

[crystal vale]

The only fairly consistent one is Ainz comp. Most of what I try is guesswork.

[coral pier]

The team is all over the place but the first thing to start off with would be adding a support, like Rowan. Possibly instead of Kelthur.

[crystal vale]

I would like to note that some of the stranger ascensions (like Peggy, Thane, Rigby, and Seirus) are primarily because I happened to get them from stones the most.

[coral pier]

You are semi far in to the game so I wouldn't consider ascension to be much of an investment at this point. I am wondering more about the signatures, furnis and engraves you have especially.

[crystal vale]

I've mostly tried to listen to advice (except for the durri, who I built just because I like them). But I tend to get conflicting advice from various unreliable sources.

Sorry I'm a bit more clueless than most.

[coral pier]

So in terms of comps you said you have Ainz comp, that one is good to go.

Then next up you should get a 303 Thoran at least because all 5 battle stages use Thoran cheese. That comp changes every time so check replays.

Next up I would think about some 5 pull comp, which is based on the Eironn+Skriath synergy. Since they are pretty weak in your case I would use Lucretia to carry that team. The remaining 2 units there can change depending on stage but usual options include Lyca, Lorsan, Queen, Safiya and Orthros. Other stuff can work too.

Then I would think about some sort of a graveborn comp. You REALLY want a 9 furni Grez for it and preferably Alna. The poor mans version would be something like Grez-Brutus(pref Alna)-Daimon-Silas-Ferael.

Lastly depending on stage you should make some sort of a comp using Kren, Raku or both. I am unsure how good Vurk is at that investment so it could work sometimes too I guess. Along with your carries you want an assortment of tanks, support and cc depending on stage. Heroes like Arthur, Rowan, Raine, PoP, Ezio, Joker come to mind.

This is basically what I would probably do if I were put in to this situation. You should really look in to the meta heroes and meta comps so you can start building them. You are missing the ability to make some comps, first one that really comes to mind is charm comp. Also you are lacking heroes to strengthen your comps to meta level.

[crystal vale]

Thanks. Saved this post for later reference.
Right now I think my main obstacle is being stuck too hard to get enough resources to fix my mistakes investment-wise.

[thick nova]

So which places you suggest ?

[coral pier]

Also since you already have a really overinvested Skreg he could potentially sometimes be used as a filler frontliner.

[coral pier]

Rowan either goes frontline or middle of back row

for the most part..

[crystal vale]

I got lucky with him just happening to have a place in meta. Like his brother, I only invested in him because he's cute. (Also why I have a serious deficit when it comes to GBs.)
Needless to say, my priorities up to recently were very skewed. I'm amazed I even got as far as I have...
I haven't got the sheer number of good heroes to make the five teams I need to push any further.

[coral pier]

Skreg is a occasionally good hero, yes, but he only really requires 9 furni to work, usually +20 sig too. The real question is why you have so many engraving mats used on him. Engraving materials are extremely slow to get and you should carefully thing about what to use them on. There are 3 main reasons to engrave a hero:

1. You want the hero to deal more damage
2. You want more haste or attack speed
3. You want the ability that engraves give

Skreg does gain attack and haste from furni, but you need to consider if he needs it. He is only really there to support your team with the great energy regen passive of his 9 furniture skill so engraving materials on him grant little to no benefit.

[keen rain]

tried it before. my team just ends up dying from mirael and isabella ult

[cunning warren]

why is thoran +30 but not rowan or luc

[heavy spade]

How

[warm hemlock]

I need a pve team I’m on 13-8

[cunning warren]

you don’t need brutus hogan and golus in the same comp

[daring sequoia]

help

[coral pier]

You're still using frontline Nara huh?

[sharp prairie]

@warm hemlock daimon nara talene oden Brutus/thoran

I’m same comp chapter 17 atm level 170 daimon

Rest are 140/141

[normal fulcrum]

Im a new player and I would like to ask if I can make a team out of this?

[grand perch]

Hello @normal fulcrum,

Please check out the pinned messages/guides in the #classic-questions and #lineup-help channels.

[limpid shell]

Im tryna swap my shaman in my build should i swap for raine or satrana?

[thin sky]

Best line up for Chapter 8? i just pulled Zaphreal

[idle oriole]

If u haven’t already check the pinned guides in #classic-questions

[errant hornet]

getting stuck on this stage

[pearl karma]

Help me with this stage pls

[fiery wing]

send hero box

[blissful needle]

Hi guys, can u plz help me with this

[royal stag]

Did u tried afk.helper?

And stop making L/L+ heroes

[proper relic]

Got it after like 50 tries

[idle oriole]

Noice

[gaunt dragon]

How would I do this without khazard.

[urban spindle]

Help pls

[idle oriole]

swap ezizh and silas?

Retry button bouta break any way to beat without cheese

[dense basalt]

Any idea ?

[unique crypt]

Anything I should change to my lineup? I’ve been hard stuck chapter 13 for almost a week now

[idle oriole]

u can try oden for ainz

[unique crypt]

Better, but no luck

[idle oriole]

maybe swap brutus and talene

[unique crypt]

Oh shitttt it worked! Damn ur the GOAT @idle oriole

So I guess I should not really use Ainz til I get albedo eh

[idle oriole]

I mean some ppl find success with him early on but if u got daimon and talene he's probably not that needed yea

[native wave]

Yeah a tank + Talene + Daimon easy clear

[unique crypt]

Why am I having so much trouble with this chapter then 😭 I’m only down about 20 levels

[native wave]

Which chapter?
Post lineup and box

[unique crypt]

13

[native wave]

Those 2 mages fucking you up lol

[native wave]

Oh wow Niru and Silvina

Replace Rowan with Silvina
Check if she deals enough or even kill 1 mage
Hook another mage with Nara, remove Oden

Your lu should be

• Nara
  -- Brutus
• Daimon
  -- Talene/Thoran
• Silvina

[unique crypt]

Okay I’ll try that one sec

No rowan?

[native wave]

Your rowan is useless if he dies 1 shot 🤷🏻‍♀️

If you still lose, do Thoran instead of Brutus and Talene next to him

[unique crypt]

Fair

Like this basically?

Wait

@native wave

[native wave]

You need to make both mages busy

That's why Nara and Silvina

[unique crypt]

Here’s p much how this has been going @native wave

[native wave]

Remove Niru place Talene there
Move Daimon to mid back
Put Nara where your Daimon is

[native wave]

Close
Niru is a waste, remove him fgs

[unique crypt]

Okay so res crystal nara

Put her top back, daimon mid back, talene front top?

[native wave]

What you didn't have her on rc?
Exactly

[unique crypt]

Nossir

[native wave]

Nara will hook your enemies and save you many times!!

Gwyneth not worth it

Rosaline meh

Always try to keep 1 slot open

[unique crypt]

Ooooh I got it close

That’s a good idea, I just pulled that hypogean tank that I wanted to put in my challenger arena roster

[native wave]

Tank?

[unique crypt]

I been using rosa to try and help Ainz, pretty meh results

Mezoth

[native wave]

Yeah Ainz is underwhelming early on with. no decent tanks

[unique crypt]

Yeah I’ve been saving my coins so I can garrison albedo with Ainz so I can actually use him LOL

[native wave]

Mezoth is a good tank
He licks enemies hahaha

[unique crypt]

Yeah he’s reaaallly carrying me thru the event rn

[native wave]

Don't waste it on those 2
Get Prince of Persia!!
Easy aoe stun and he has 2 lives(technically)

[unique crypt]

Reaaally

I thought ainz albedo were supposed to be ur main meta comp, no?

[native wave]

He rewinds time if near death, rewound hp and sp bar up to 8s

Na Ainz only good if you build him fully
Late game~ish only
Only get Ainz +30 as merc for lab hard mode

[unique crypt]

Btw that comp got me thru that level, ty!

Oh that’s wild, so I should not be garrisoning Ainz right now at all?

[native wave]

You're welcome
But Silvina will saturate fast

Yeah big waste of time and resources
Sad truth

[unique crypt]

Sheeesh. Well then, should I just start building Merlin and Arthur with all the challenger/lab tokens I’ve been saving?

[native wave]

Yeah buy them always from stores

Also it's Arthur and LDV

[safe hazel]

LDV and arthur

[barren bough]

anyone on 46-42?

[unique crypt]

I thought Merlin was prio? Is that inseason guide just wrong about everything lmaooo

[safe hazel]

yh ignore it for now, a lot of info outside of this discord is outdated or just plain incorrect

[unique crypt]

Hm. Where can I find more up to date information

[hollow frost]

Help pls

[grave canyon]

how this team should work? i saw on yt tons of ppl doing this with same comp and arts but i can't done it for 12h straight auto battle...

[safe hazel]

nemora miht need 9/9

[royal stag]

Try this

[grave canyon]

nemora is random character, they used this one like zaphrael or prince of persia

im using ainzcomp for 2nd battle

[royal stag]

I can send u all my clears in private when u want

[grave canyon]

maky

[clever patio]

any way to possibly thoran cheese this maybe?

or any way to just get past it lol

[pale kettle]

Have a load of diamonds to use, not sure where I should take my account. I've asked plenty, always got different vague answers. Account is to the point to where "beginner guides, and priority lists" don't exactly matter to much. Could I PM anybody my wishlists/heroes for insight?

[grave canyon]

@royal stag

[safe hazel]

if you are early game summon otherwise gaze

just post your box here so I can see

[pale kettle]

@safe hazel

Sorry for spamming chat, why I asked if somebody would PM me haha.

[safe hazel]

Anakin's Group-Ascension 101
Here are some priority heroes you should ascend first if you can if you have 8/8 copies for them - You can use this to see the priority heroes that you should start out wishlisting: This is a GROUP-Priority list (Which means - not in a particular order, they have different priorities when one held against the other). For what is in parentheses, if you don't want that - like (Tower), a tower hero - Then skip.

LB Priority heroes:
Rowan, Raine, Rosa, Scarlet, Estrilda | > | Morrow, Gwyn, Hendrik | > | Peggy, Cecilia | > | Lucius, Belinda, Fawkes, Eluard | > | Rest

Maulers:
Kren, Skriath, Tidus, Skreg, Numisu | > | Satrana (Purely CR) | > | Antandra (Late game/CR/Tower), Granit (High deficit with +30 to help Luc) | > | Brutus, Warek (For TR/CR), Safiya (Powercap/CR), Vurk | > | Rest

Wilders:
Raku, Mishka, Eironn, Lyca, Pippa | > | Gorvo, Saurus (CR), Tasi, Astar (PVP/CR) & Nemora | > | Lorsan | > | Rest

GB:
Daimon, Grezhul, Thoran, ferael, Silas, Oden | > | Hodgkin | > | Izold (Tower/TR/CR), Baden (CR/TR) & Torne (Purely CR), Desira (Temporal Rift) & Isabella (CR) | > | Kelthur | > | Theowynn & Shemira | > | Nara & Treznor | > | Rest

There are heroes that you would like want 1 copy of early, like Cecilia, Lorsan, Brutus, Safiya, Baden, Tasi, Nara & Kelthur - so if you’re wishlisting, add these early on, but only for one copy instead of 8.
Overall you want to focus on the first group of heroes (the priority ones), before moving on to the 2nd and 3rd group, etc. - Group 1 > Group 2 > Group 3 > ...
I would not get stars on anyone (carries or for engravings) until you have aleast 8/8 copies of the priority heroes (The first group of heroes) - Max 2 spots on WL for stars, after priorities
I would keep scrolling GB until you have the priority ascended (The first group of heroes, the 6 GBs) - once you have 8/8 copies of the priority GBs, you can use the cards on wilders, but keep scrolling GB for fodder

[pale kettle]

Should I keep summoning or just gaze for Alna? Got her at L now.

[safe hazel]

for tavern wishlist look at this and sort it out, ik it's a very large copy paste but very useful

[pale kettle]

For sure. Thank ye

[safe hazel]

yh gaze alna, just use HCPs for now

HCP scarlet, kren, mishka

[safe hazel]

take pippa off your furn wishlist and put in alna and take out daimon and put twins

I'd also finish twins to A after Alna A because you are close to getting them A

then go for M mortas

use up your HCPs with prio order being kren > mishka > scarlet for you

[pale kettle]

What is HCP?

[safe hazel]

Hero Choice Pull

[pale kettle]

Oh hero choice

[safe hazel]

for CR focus go ezizh otherwise go zol from challenger store

you may want to speed up zol A with gazing tho

[pale kettle]

I don't even do CR, is that even important?

Or TR tbh. I'm a lazy player

[safe hazel]

yh it's important

defo do them, you should be at the minimum doing both when you can even if not to a good standard

[pale kettle]

What's that, just for juice??

[safe hazel]

TR is juice and poe and CR is juice, shards, cores, gazers, time cards etc

[pale kettle]

Ohhh sick

[safe hazel]

CR is seen as the best ROI in the game rn

since campaign rewards are kinda lackluster, which is why some say skip alna A but that general consensus hasn't been made yet

[jaunty flare]

Help

[safe hazel]

link ainz to grez

then try
ferael
>rowan
safiya
>brutus
ainz

or try
ainz
>brutus
safiya
>rowan
ferael

[safe hazel]

take reds from events as well you need them

take arti frags for 5* call as well

[sly forge]

AFK Helper just added some basic tagging functionality, so that uploaders can personalize their uploads better with tags such as "No Thoran" or "No Ainz", for people to better search for exactly the clears they'd like!

[azure dew]

will this be a decent line up once i get them further built?

[jaunty flare]

Neither worked

[runic gyro]

what’s the best lineup i can make with these hero’s?

[safe hazel]

dps or ainz can't ult?

[jaunty flare]

ainz can’t ult

[safe hazel]

try
brutus
>ezizh
lyca
>rowan
ainz

can replace ezizh with daimon and lyca with ferael/oden if more dps/cc needed

[heavy spade]

Ok

[slate turtle]

What should i do?

[spare girder]

Oh my God what's this?

[pale kettle]

who should i build

and what team should i use

[white patrol]

get alna

and do alna grez silas fera and daimon

[fiery wing]

yes i quit campaign route for cr gazing/hcp/investing

[safe hazel]

I’m doing M mortas next

[fiery wing]

the weekly juices, shards, gaze cards and cores are just insane

[fiery wing]

i started on twins M

[safe hazel]

Do M mortas it seems very broken for CR

Then arkinz said twins 1 star for the e33

[fiery wing]

yes he is, but i need twins more then i'll do mortas M

[fiery wing]

true which is why i'll balanced it out first to make mortas and twins M then twins A1*

[pale kettle]

what team

[sleek delta]

Brutus rowan front, daimon, prince, tasi backline but tasi can be interchangeable depending on the stage

[pale kettle]

what artifacts on them

[sleek delta]

Call daimon prince rowan. For tasi and brutus can be anything defensive

[pale kettle]

thanks it works

[sleek delta]

Sure thing

[grim copper]

stuck 😦

[sleek delta]

Try lyca arden instead of thoran and oden

Daimon can be in front of the LB spear guy. He can be front since he's overleveled

[grim copper]

won't he get yeeted out of the existence?

[sleek delta]

Probably not if arden can root fast

[astral lodge]

Suggestions on this one? I think daimon can manage this if only isabella dies before ulting.

Nvm, can't get past on this for more than 10 tries but after posting here rng somehow tweaked to help me haha

[grim copper]

Put Daimon back and try using Thoran instead of Oden (cause he insta dies of Lilith)
If Oden is living for a while, try to use him instead of Arden and vice versa

16-12 and 16-16 were insanely hard for me too

[grim copper]

Good lineup, thanks

oh nvm, you told me not to use Oden but w/out him Ferael is invincible

[pale kettle]

should i be doing normal summons or desired summons

[grim copper]

Why don't you use Ainz?

[unborn folio]

Slow ult charge, especially since I havent unlocked the mechanic to share one artifact with multiple characters

Silvina also one hits him immediately

Also, jesus christ you got to chapter 18 in 12 days?

Im on day 14 now and suffeeing on ch 12

[grim copper]

pain

[quaint zenith]

What do i use here

[grim copper]

Daimon is the answer

[unborn folio]

Im using daimon, its just my rng isnt giving me any copies of him

Torturing myself by waiting to get all 100 summons rather than summon with the 50 i have now

[grim copper]

ye, while i only need 1 more copy to get him ascended.
this game is too rng based

[unborn folio]

And i hate that but im not resting until my challenge is either failed or complete

[limpid shell]

How should i rebuild this?

[pearl karma]

Talene healer or silas

[rapid rampart]

Silas

[errant hornet]

getting stuck on this stage

[weak kindle]

you can try to copy the formations of people who beat it

any ideas here?

[fathom shuttle]

hey guys! stuck on chapter 18 stage 37 an struggling abit here based on my lineup ive got an my heroes does anyonew have any suggestions or ways to beat this lvl? if not no worries any sort of help works

[weak kindle]

first of all swap lucretia for rowan

an elite lucretia will not do anything pretty much

[fathom shuttle]

alr lol i had rowan in instread of lucretia an had him in the middle back line but got folded faster then previously aha

do i just keep trying an rettrying?

[weak kindle]

because of hypo bonus yea

[fathom shuttle]

yh getting folded like a spanish omelet ya feel

that 30% is somewhat nice but i swapped her for rowan do i put him in the middle back row an keep current lineup an just keep retrying my man?

hope for the best scenario typa thing?

[weak kindle]

if thats what you gotta do yea

[fathom shuttle]

alright if thats what a mans gotta do

[weak kindle]

for me i would get an ainz from the garrison and put everything in him

[fathom shuttle]

then lets get it an try what about an legendary+ grezhul? or nah bench him an keep trying with the rowan also rowan in the middle back?

[fathom shuttle]

dang i dont got the materials for an ainz might be something i look into doing to get those 100 crystals needed

[weak kindle]

if hes at 20 sig he can carry pretty well

[fathom shuttle]

how long u keep garrison heroes for btw? but alright sweet

[weak kindle]

30 days

[fathom shuttle]

ah not bad not bad

probably something worth saving up points for then i reckon an u rekcon get ainz?

who would i swap the skelley man out for?

[weak kindle]

rowan middle back probably but front might work but in this case idk

[fathom shuttle]

nah front he gets folded quicker then my washing but yh ill try middle back

with 100k champion tokens i might be able to get it plus some other things or close to at least

damn got 94 but thats alright close enough for now

[weak kindle]

when i was around that stage with my 2nd acc i had like a brutus lyca/brutus thoran front with ainz rowan mehira/talene/oden back

[fathom shuttle]

alright so ainz in the back? im at 98 summon stones so 2 more an ill get ainz

does he come at elite or ?

[weak kindle]

you have to link him to a hero

he shares ascension and level

[weak kindle]

ainz in the back cause he has like no hp and def

[fathom shuttle]

illl link him to rowan then for sureeee get that mythic + ainz as im using thoran lyca an daimon hard rn
an ohhh ok ok so his a glass cannon to assasins to then no worries

[distant plume]

Anyone with an idea as to how to clear both flora stages on my mauler account? I can only merc a hero for one of them

[ripe basin]

Hmmm anything i could do?

[pale kettle]

did u read pins in #classic-questions b4

[ripe basin]

Hmm yeh

The one about fodders?

[pale kettle]

no the whole thing

whos ur carry in the lineup?

[ripe basin]

Oden

Ahe gets focused by siviana i think thats her name

[pale kettle]

oden wants 309 to be a carry, now i dont know if he can at that early but im pretty sure that he is unable to carry

in the pins, it is suggested to use wukong up to lvl100 or mirael up to lvl160

please remember not to make random Ls

[ripe basin]

Hmm it was mostly because of rosaline that he could carry me

But i can get mirael no probs

[pale kettle]

okay, but like theres a limit to how far itll go sooo yeah

[mystic yacht]

Im hard stuck, help me pls

[idle oriole]

can try
ferael/daimon
-rowan
daimon/ferael
-brutus
lyca

[mystic yacht]

I tried some and I don't have much dmg :/

[idle oriole]

might need 3F for daimon then rip

[mystic yacht]

That's what I was talking about... People can't help, I always pass those level with my compo

They always say "you can't, upgrade your heroes" but no, I can make this level, I just need the good start and a good luck

[pale kettle]

surely u have furniture cards or something

[safe hazel]

Because you haven’t played optimally

You can’t expect to progress fast if you don’t build meta sadly

If you had raku +30 instead of nemora you’d probably be at least ch32 by now

[mystic yacht]

I was playing 2 years ago, when Raku didn't exists ?

[arctic fjord]

hello

[safe hazel]

still shouldn't have +30 nem

[arctic fjord]

can u help me make a good team?

[mystic yacht]

I swaped scroll nemora cause it was a mistake with swap scroll

[safe hazel]

it's pretty much useless

[safe hazel]

with who?

[mystic yacht]

When I didn't even notice that it has an afk arena discord, but still, that's not THE problem

[mystic yacht]

rowan, I wanted it ascended

[safe hazel]

[mystic yacht]

At this moment, I didn't noticed that it also swap special items

[safe hazel]

well get raku +30 then you can push, you have extremely old meta built

[mystic yacht]

But with my extreme luck, with Raku in the wishlist and like 300 summons, I still don't have raku

[safe hazel]

smth like
daimon
>rowan
mehira
>lyca
brutus

could work with raku but that probably won't have enough dps

[mystic yacht]

My bad, I didn't played optimally x)))

[safe hazel]

well not your fault since you are returning player

just that you can't expect to progress fast without what you need

[safe hazel]

HCP

[mystic yacht]

I know, but the fact is that people says that it is IMPOSSIBLE to progress, but no, with my own strat I can, however I'm a very bad player, so how tf can I progress my strategy is that bad ?

[mystic yacht]

hcp ?
I've maked it with oden

[safe hazel]

Hero Choice Pull

[mystic yacht]

Cause people didn't said that raku was better, 1 month ago, when i've asked like 5 times

[pale kettle]

its not impossible to progress, itll just be a tad harder

and u shld focus on getting daimon 3f for now

[mystic yacht]

I've seen Oden, Raku, Kren, Lucretia, Ainz and Grezhul, so they said like "Oden is as strong as raku"

[mystic yacht]

Yeah, I already have 1F now, It's just that I wanted to progress on AInz, Grezh etc...

[safe hazel]

he wants furn, raku can do fine with just +30

[mystic yacht]

It will be too long to have raku now

I'll try when I'll had HCP, but now, I need to progress :/

Or, I'm going to be stuck for 10 days

And, Raku +30 is better than Arthur +30 ?

[safe hazel]

yes much better

[mystic yacht]

What's the official special tierlist ?

[safe hazel]

there is none
I'd do rowan -> raku -> lucretia -> thoran/albedo for now

[mystic yacht]

I have rowan, but my Lucretia is only Elite

[safe hazel]

you already have rowan now so do raku

[safe hazel]

skip it and come back if she is not Mythic

[pale kettle]

okay so im gonna clear this up rq:
so ainz isnt going to help bc u want to 209 ainz and 300 albedo at the bare minimum, which is a heavy investment

grezhul also wont bc its not at A, and u want alna 309 to help him enable(i dont know how well he can solo carry at 209 but im pretty sure daimon 203 will work better as of now)

screenshot attached - this didnt mean oden = raku, this meant u can take raku to M and then go for oden A or u can just make oden A since hes gonna be A sooner or later

raku +30 is much better, since he needs taht to carry(also i gtg bye)

[mystic yacht]

People said that Thoran +20 is not a priority (I have 600 emblems each, except reds)

[safe hazel]

no thoran is +0 or +30, his +10 and +20 are useless

[mystic yacht]

Oh, I see

[mystic yacht]

Yeah, RN I'm focusing Raku but I have no HCP and no luck, so, it will take a long time

[safe hazel]

get him from MV as well

[mystic yacht]

MV ?

[safe hazel]

misty valley

[mystic yacht]

(I'm french, so, the vocabulary is not clear to me, sorry x))

[mystic yacht]

Yeah, Obviously, I will, but the stages will open in 3 days :/

Thanks you guys for all the help, I really appreciate it, I'm gonna leave for some hours thanks you again, goodbye !

[daring sequoia]

yup

idk any other form i should do

[subtle oar]

Hello, may I have any feedback on my team composition

[lusty wadi]

What should my team look like to beat floor 50

[idle oriole]

Just making sure but if u haven’t already, check out the pinned beginner guides in #classic-questions , in any case don’t make random L/L+ heroes cos it wastes food.
As a general team daimon talene hogan/golus Brutus and a flex support should be fine

[wispy tusk]

Stuck at 8-40. Is there anyway to progress past it?

[pale kettle]

daimon

golus
arden
talene
oden

[pale kettle]

maybe try to replace damion with a tank like grehzul and replace the girl on far bottom with shamira
also would reccomend making sure that u star any legendery or epic armour in the begging

[wispy tusk]

Didn’t work.. the assassin girl killed my oden and talene in 3-4 second

[pale kettle]

i wouldnt suggest starring gear yet, and shemira has fallen off the meta - wukong up till lvl100, mirael is standard up to 160, daimon can carry for most the game from early til mid

plus, while grezhul can tank for now(im assuming), eventually itll be one shot and wont be as useful. your talene can still function well as a tank as well as a carry for now, and golus has a +40% def upon lower than 40% hp iirc, hence why i suggest golus and talene as a tank for now

[pale kettle]

the idea is to bid time for daimon to ramp up - ur main oncern shldnt be silvina, it shld be isabella

also, try retry spamming

[wispy tusk]

yeah, isabella is too tanky, been re-trying multiple times but usually its 1 daimon v 4

[pale kettle]

ok so what should i do for my formation i need tips

[wispy tusk]

been relying on talene and daimon ult. mehire and oden as debuffs/buffs

[pale kettle]

im trying to get taelene to replace wukong

[wispy tusk]

slivinia shredding my mages too fast 😦

[pale kettle]

retry spamming shld eventually get it to work, maybe wukong instead of oden may work but idk

[pale kettle]

read the pins in #classic-questions is all i have to say

read the documents in particular

ok

[wispy tusk]

everybody died before getting their ults off hmmm... it's doable with these levels right? just need to find the right combination?

[pale kettle]

probably

[wispy tusk]

i have to wait to try wukong strat, no more RC slots. been trying other heroes out

thanks tho!

[subtle oar]

Thanks, Im not used to discord so never saw that. Thanks

[versed maple]

Been struggling to get through this for a while, any ideas?

[idle oriole]

Have u tried Nara for baba?

[versed maple]

Yeah but wizard guy doesn’t die fast enough and they start to heal

[oblique nebula]

from afk helper

always check it out, it helps a lot

[versed maple]

My thoran is kinda trash

But thanks a lot!

[oblique nebula]

keep retrying, it sometimes takes a lot of retries

[pale lagoon]

thoughts?

[royal stag]

U tried afk.helper ?

[pale lagoon]

yeah I think so a while ago, I can try again. it's still afk.helper.nas or whatever?

[safe hazel]

try swap daimon and rowan

then swap tasi for ferael

can also use audrae trial pos 3

[wispy tusk]

Thanks for recommended Golus! Managed to clear the stage with
Mehira

Golus
Talene
Daimon
Oden

[snow wasp]

Am I using my best heroes in the best way?

[sleek delta]

Looks fine for now, but usually rowan in middle back so his potions can reach everyone

[snow wasp]

Middle back on rowan? Should I have Damian on front row to use shields?

[sleek delta]

Super early, just like yours, he can be front

[snow wasp]

And that's better for him than back row? When should he go back?

[pale kettle]

What's a good raku comp I can build here?

[sleek delta]

When he gets obliterated in front, daimon needs time ramp up

[snow wasp]

Ok

[coral pier]

Are you trying to make a 2nd comp for campaign?

[sleek delta]

Raku mehira rowan lyca brutus

[pale kettle]

Yes

[sleek delta]

You need the windbinder

[pale kettle]

I have a level 1 windbinder

[sleek delta]

That's enough, you got lyca for more energy on mehira

[pale kettle]

And rowan too

[weak kindle]

what mistakes did i make?

[pale kettle]

It worked thank you!

Rosaline? Hmmm

[weak kindle]

rosa on mehira

[scarlet adder]

Can I make any changes to make my teams stronger? These are formations that I use in both defence and offence in Heroes of Esperia

[royal stag]

#959482947105349662

[scarlet adder]

Oh I didnt realise there was such channel, ty

[coral pier]

Lucretia-Twins-Ezizh-Rowan-(Haelus/Eluard/Desira/Skreg/Tasi)

Would be better for team 3

Other changes kinda depend on what heroes you have

[scarlet adder]

I have most useful heroes built, but, if talking about newer and strong ones such as Scarlet, Mishka, Astar, still dont have

[coral pier]

Image says a lot more

[coral pier]

Much better, lets see

[coral pier]

So I already mentioned changes to comp 3.

Comp 2 should be Grez-Alna-Athalia-Silas-Ferael

Comp 1 should be Mortas in offense if you can make it so he survives enough to ult Ainz

Comp 4 should be burst with something like Eironn-Zol-Lorsan-Lyca-Zaph

Comp 5 is tricky I'm running out of time so someone else can suggest it

Something with Desira-Oden probably

[scarlet adder]

Is that Comp 2 really good? I beat many comps like this with mine Comp 2

Is Zolrath without 3 furniture worth using actually?

Thanx for help tho :>

[coral pier]

The comp is not just good, it is top 3 pvp comp of all time

Also yes, Zolrath is worth using without furni in burst if he is A

[scarlet adder]

Okay, also I guess the first three comps are the best I can pick for Arena with 3 teams right?

[coral pier]

Yeah. Especially after you get Haelus to 309.

[scarlet adder]

Ayee Im working in him right now hehe

[coral pier]

It's not even funny how good that comp is

[scarlet adder]

The Lucretia-Twins-Ezizh-Rowan-Haelus you mean?

[coral pier]

Yes

[scarlet adder]

Is my Haelus ready to be used in that comp?
Lucretia-Twins-Ezizh-Rowan-(Haelus/Eluard/Desira/Skreg/Tasi)

Or I just pick Tasi since shes best invested among those

[coral pier]

I haven't tested Haelus at M so I don't know. Tasi is pretty safe but leaves your team way more vulnerable to damage

@scarlet adder Btw for comp 5 I would do Daimon-LDV-Oden-Desira-Raku

You could also do Thoran-Talene-Flora-Desira-Ezio and use that to go against enemy burst comps

It won't beat a good burst but it should be able to deal with weaker burst comps

[scarlet adder]

Hmm so Daimon-LDV-Oden-Desira-Raku as defensive and Thoran-Talene-Flora-Desira-Ezio as offensive comp, so I can choose the weaker burst team.
Or just use one of these teams in both defensive and offensive

Also who is LDV?

[coral pier]

davinci

[coral pier]

defence-offense

you can also offense the desira-oden if no burst

[mystic yacht]

Can I have help pls ? That's difficult :/

[scarlet adder]

Okay thanx a lot
Also I wonder if Mortas is really better than Ezio in AAA comp. I feel like both perform very similar

[slate turtle]

Best lineup i can make help me please help

[coral pier]

He is extremely good

Assuming he survives to ult that is

[coral pier]

Usually people with Talene2 and Daimon use something like Talene2-Tank(Thoran/Brutus)-Daimon-Mirael-Support(Arden)

I have seen really high early game deficits with comps like that

[scarlet adder]

I fought with AAA Merlin Desira and couldnt finish battle in time hehe (actually no one died)
Should I in that case use Ezio instead of Mortas?

[coral pier]

You actually had a pvp fight with no deaths?

[scarlet adder]

Yeah it was in Arena 3v3

[slate turtle]

Whats talene 2?

[coral pier]

In terms of damage Mortas adds way more

[coral pier]

Awakened Talene. The L Talene in your inventory

I call her Talene 2 because there are 2 different talenes in the game

She seems to be really strong in the 1-160 level range. She isn't much of a campaign unit after that though

[scarlet adder]

Alright, looks like lack of good rng

[fossil oracle]

So I've got on front luci, Brutus, both m+
Top back Nara m+
Back mid isa A
And bottom scarlet m+ And stuck on 23-50 I've tried changing the formation and everything and ally rngs kinda ran out 😭

[coral pier]

We know what the heroes and the investments are based on the image btw, don't need to explain it. I would maybe start with replacing scarlet for now because I don't think her damage is relevant since she is ascension and 40 levels behind of Isabella. Replace her with a support, Rowan perhaps.

Or Rosa to help Isabella ult more

[fossil oracle]

Alright ty imma try and if it doesn't work I'll get back to you and thank you for help

[scarlet adder]

@coral pier Nice, thanx to you I just entered master from points achieved from defense hehe
Usually on the Record I saw mostly defeats and negative points :>
Looks like in Master I need 7 teams 😮
But I highly doubt that I will go higher than that hehe

But if you had an idea for remaining 2 teams Im very curious hehe

[fossil oracle]

So I've tried Rowan and she's L for me and I don't have Rosa to use and it seems my Rowan dies to quickly

[coral pier]

I guess use stall team and oden-desira. 7th comp would be esterilda-skreg-tidus-cecilia-kren. Though I am not sure how strong that comp is with no Skreg 9f.

[coral pier]

Honestly I don't know then. You should build more meta heroes like Daimon.

[fossil oracle]

Okiiii tyyyyy

[scarlet adder]

Aight :>

[frigid aspen]

last fight and i’m stuck :,)

should i just use my merc?

[unreal pagoda]

Just looking to get the best team I can help is appreciated

[pale lagoon]

@unreal pagoda swap mirael out for either rosaline or lyca

[unreal pagoda]

also im fairly new and have questions on how to increase my power besides equipment and levels,

[prime prism]

Can someone make me a good team I have no idea what to do?

[coral pier]

If you need to backline Brutus do you really need him?

[frigid aspen]

he’s useful i was just trying out different formations

[pale kettle]

Any teams

[idle oriole]

check pinned beginner guides in #classic-questions

[pale kettle]

Read it like five times still don’t get it

[idle oriole]

this one?

[pale kettle]

Yeah but like how do I know wich char to pick and where to put them

[idle oriole]

Well i guess first off, reset everyone except for wukong (monkey) and then level up Niru, Mirael, Hogan and Ira to level 60, and take wukong to lvl 100

[hard moat]

Just got to the point where I need more than one team in campaign , can anyone help me building some?

[slate turtle]

Whats the best lineup i can make rn?

[safe hazel]

Try talene thoran daimon eirron Arden

[west fog]

bro we don't have stages memorized... just post a screenshot of the stage

[safe hazel]

Or talene thoran Arden mirael daimon

[slate turtle]

Thats not the point i just want a solid team

[west fog]

for what

[safe hazel]

@slate turtle

Try these ones, there really isn’t much we can do to help if we can’t see the stage

There is no ‘solid’ teams early

[slate turtle]

No im good i dont need help on stage

Well a good team dont matter just wanna get out of chapter

[silent moss]

https://afkhelper.nax.is/

go there and go look at what others used best of luck

[safe hazel]

Yes so we have to see the stage to see what types of enemies you are facing

[slate turtle]

Bro how do i use it

[silent moss]

well you want campaign so click that then select chapter and stage and then look at the levels that people cleared it at and attempt to find the best one that helps you

[slate turtle]

Ok

[silent moss]

Are you close to taking Rowan’s si to 30?

[errant hornet]

nah he’s 10rn

[silent moss]

Take him to 30 asap it’ll make daimon clear easier

[errant hornet]

getting stuck in this stage now

[echo jungle]

I'm starting to get pissed. Tried afk helper and got bunk. Do I have anything here for this?

[pale lagoon]

u can try:
Lucius

Rowan
Shemira
Brutus
Nemora

restart if nemora doesn't charm saveas

[unborn folio]

Someone recommend me something for this crappy stage

[pale lagoon]

switch the ice lady for rowan, put mirael in center or top, swap nira out for arden perhaps

[echo jungle]

I'll have to rearrange my crystal dudes but I'll give it a try, thank you

[pale lagoon]

yep np, estrilda, belinda and safiya really arent all that good, same as the other mauler girl. they really need a comp to make them work (example: safiya eirron)

[unborn folio]

Semi works except theres always three enemies left that are practically immune to all my attacks

All my heroes are built with garbage so no matter how good a team comp is i cant optimize it properly

[errant hornet]

how does one beat this stage

[ember bane]

how am I doing

[half mural]

Any ideas or do i need to wait a little😂

[pale kettle]

What's the best setup I can do rn?

[stable ember]

Read the guides pinned in the questions channel, at very least the visual one. They answer that question and many others. Generally you will be using wukong as your carry with 4 fodder heroes until you are at least 100+ on all 5. Reset the excess heroes, it only costs 10 diamonds each.

[stable ember]

I'd run something like

Ferael
Thoran
Rowan
Grezhul
Daimon

With lucius and nemora on that side I'd try to get your damage focused there so they can't stall you out.

[errant hornet]

how do i beat this stage?

[stable ember]

Post heroes box? From that pic I'd suggest daimon/thoran/rowan/oden and maybe tasi. I wouldn't waste a slot on Brutus over some more CC or damage

[errant hornet]

here’s ma box

and can u give positions?

[stable ember]

Oden
Thoran
Rowan
Daimon
Tasi

Could also try to use nara to pull nemora if she is being an issue quicker than the others, if that drop rowan or tasi

[peak scarab]

Nice pfp

[errant hornet]

yea latest chapters have been crazyy

[peak scarab]

Ikr straight up loony toons

[errant hornet]

i aint complainin looney toons' sum good shit

[peak scarab]

Agreed but oda knew what he was doing making those chapters lol

[errant hornet]

yea homie gets gear 5 and turns into bugs bunny

[peak scarab]

💀 honestly it wasn't what I expected from gear 5

[errant hornet]

true i thougt he was gonna go super saiyan and instead he gets a sponsor from cartoon network

[peak scarab]

Cartoon network fell of sooo hard

[errant hornet]

yup adventure time and regular show were peak

[peak scarab]

Fr fr can't forget gumball

Welp I'ma go off to bed gn lol

[errant hornet]

gn fellow one piece fan

[peak scarab]

👍

[fading briar]

hi

[main geyser]

I put something like this together. Wanted opinions before I started leveling lol

Or this

[royal stag]

Read pins in #classic-questions

[daring sequoia]

helap

[oblique nebula]

u better reset that nara and get daimon to 240 instead

[unborn folio]

Any recommendations

I've nearly beat this several times its just vedan and brutus being obnoxious as hell

[idle oriole]

I’m this close to Hcp’ing Lorsan so I can cheese

[idle oriole]

How close have u gotten it to

[unborn folio]

Like to the point where both of them had barely any hp left, but then brutus does his shield and vedan does the bat immunity thing, killing off the remaining heroes that are still alive

I've swapped around my comps for 2 days now

[idle oriole]

If it’s gotten that close it could just be Rng, other than that I mean u could try swapping golus for thoran or lyca for Rowan.

[unborn folio]

I mean is it really rng if I've been stuck for two days

[idle oriole]

If it’s gotten down to 1 hero then I mean probably yes

[oblique nebula]

did u try daimon front? or oden instead of Mirael maybe?

[unborn folio]

Mirael does the most dmg

Id be cutting out around 80k worth of dmg if i swap mirael out

I bet when i get brutus hes gonna be literal garbage compared to the one im dealing with rn

[safe hazel]

Swap mirael and Nara and Nara for tasi/oden

[unborn folio]

Its fine i beat it a min ago

Now im dealing with this brat on 12-33

It KEEPS HEALING everytime i get it low

[safe hazel]

Better gear on daimon and give daimon call

[unborn folio]

I have to swap call around with Mirael and daimon, and as for gear he has the best stuff i own atm

[safe hazel]

Stop starring the gear have you got the mythic gear chests yet?

[unborn folio]

No why would i?

[safe hazel]

Can’t remember if it was the chapter after or before

[unborn folio]

You know i could level him up to like 150-160 if the game actually gave me another damn copy of daimon

[safe hazel]

Get mirael to 160 should be easy

[unborn folio]

The chest for chapter 12 gives a character, the one for clearing 13 probably gives the chest

[unborn folio]

Miraels 160 already

[safe hazel]

I cleared ch 12 with 160 mirael and 140 daimon on my alt @unborn folio

[unborn folio]

Sounds nice what teams did you use?

[safe hazel]

Probably just lineup

[unborn folio]

Because im constantly stuck swapping duras call around

[safe hazel]

I just did thoran lyca daimon mirael nara/oden for most stages

[unborn folio]

Basically what im doing

[safe hazel]

Retry more and make sure mirael ults at least once and you should be fine

[unborn folio]

She does

Majority of the time its that one guy left who keeps healing

[safe hazel]

I put call on her if she struggled to ult once otherwise I put it on daimon

[safe hazel]

Give call to daimon then

And use someone else instead of alna

[unborn folio]

I was using rowan

Kinda have to use both tanks if i want Mirael to ult once

Why is it ALWAYS that brat left

Im literally having Nara target him and hes still being a damn menace

[safe hazel]

Can replace Nara with oden/tasi for more cc

[unborn folio]

Kay beat that one with a lucky mirael ult

Christ 12-34 has three self healing characters

[oblique nebula]

Any thoughts? Tasi is so annoying

[idle oriole]

U can try
Ferael

• Thoran
  Daimon
• Brutus
  Rowan

[oblique nebula]

ty that worked

[versed maple]

Any thoughts? Tasi is so annoying

[frigid aspen]

:,)

[idle oriole]

swap ezizh and daimon, swap out mortas for another support like ferael/ silas

[frigid aspen]

that worked, thank you!

[idle oriole]

try
daimon
-brutus
oden
-thoran
ferael

[idle oriole]

[dense basalt]

I've been strugling during 2 days for now

[rustic mulch]

Any multi stage reqs? I can't seem to beat players similar to my stats at all

[versed maple]

I managed to get a kill on nemora but sadly still lost

[idle oriole]

how many times did u try
in any case u can also do
rowan
-daimon
ferael
-brutus
oden

[versed maple]

Probably 50 now, I’ll try that thanks

Swapped rowan and daimon and got two kills

[queen flare]

How do I beat this I'll get a pic of my characters

[versed maple]

[idle oriole]

can u post with ur artifacts

[versed maple]

Please don’t beat me up if it’s bad

[idle oriole]

no lol im just wondering why these might not be working

[versed maple]

Ik it was probably bad to go so far with daimon sig

[queen flare]

Show me the enemies

[idle oriole]

call on rowan eye on ferael and oden

[versed maple]

Alright thanks I’ll try

[versed maple]

It’s up in the chat

[versed maple]

With that do I put daimon back on front

[queen flare]

Ok Rowan bottom front and ainz middle back

Maybe use talene for healing or Lyca for hazte and then put someone that is dps

[queen flare]

Front

Also u just need to level up ur characters

[versed maple]

I feel like the results are much worst though and yeah but no dust

[queen flare]

Dam I've got like 500k dust

If u have anyone leveled up manuallu that isn't your top 5 highest then reset them

Only have 5 ppl leveled up as to raise the crystal level and not waste materials

[queen flare]

Reset Silas and level up your Brutus and put Silas in the crystal

[idle oriole]

either of the previous lineups with those artis should do better

[versed maple]

Omg i won with the rowan one

[versed maple]

Wouldn’t that make Silas and oden and archer man lvl 1?

[queen flare]

No

If u level up ur Brutus that will level up the crystal more

[versed maple]

Crystal is only based off 4 heroes?

[queen flare]

Wait nvm

Forgot u have ainz