lineup-help

[azure marsh]

Help with lineup please, beginner stuck at 8-20

Elite on rc

[idle oriole]

post the stage

[keen dawn]

Any way I'm cheesing this without 5* call?

[surreal lintel]

Do you guys have any idea on how to beat this? Can't seem to get Daimon rolling :/

[twin urchin]

What's the best lineup with these?

[azure marsh]

Beginner need help w lineup

[idle oriole]

Do u have nara

[idle oriole]

Check pinned beginner guides in #classic-questions

[idle oriole]

You’re at over a 2x deficit so u might just need to wait for summons or levels. At the very least u could maybe swap out brutus for hogan/ golus as Brutus only gets good after lvl 141

[azure marsh]

I got this far with ezizh trial

[scenic kettle]

Im stuck.. any advice ?

[azure marsh]

Do i just summon whenever i have 2700?

[idle oriole]

Yea tbh

[idle oriole]

Reset arden and put him and ferael in ur resonating crystal. Ur levels are fine so the only thing I can say is to swap mirael and ezizh positions

[scenic kettle]

Thanks

[fossil plume]

is there a specific lineup I can use for chapter 8?

[pearl karma]

Help

[fossil plume]

you got ezizh?

[pearl karma]

Ye trial

[idle oriole]

Just check the pinned beginner guides in #classic-questions it shows what general early game lineups should look like

[idle oriole]

U should still be using wukong as carry, ezizh is also rly useful

[pearl karma]

But wukong for silvina and ezizh for mirael?

[idle oriole]

Ideally u could use Hogan Mirael Rowan wukong ezizh

[pearl karma]

Alna and tasi also good for stunning them

[idle oriole]

Yea u can put alna and tasi in rc. Alna buffs ur carry if I remember correctly and tasi can be gud cc sometimes

[pearl karma]

And where need alna to be

[fossil plume]

i followed it exactly how it said to, but i’m still struggling. It said my carry should be 20-40 levels above supports and i can’t level up carry anymore because I need to ascend

mirael is carry

[idle oriole]

put in daimon for thoran and woke ezizh for rosa

[pearl karma]

@idle oriole but whats my carry then

[idle oriole]

i never used her but i think either one works

[idle oriole]

wukong and mirael

[pearl karma]

Ok and later the elf can be replaced for oden tho? Hes pretty good

[idle oriole]

the elf?

[pearl karma]

Ye ehh

Tasi

[idle oriole]

yea i guess. tasi isnt used much anymore early game, but her banish is useful in certain situations

[jaunty flare]

Help

[haughty ridge]

Please help

[safe hazel]

merc lucrieta

[silent moss]

slot in another graveborn and see if that helps oden carry with the 10% attack buff

[jaunty flare]

Didn’t help, the thane just shreds everyone

[silent moss]

try this
oden
brutus
rowan
shemira
nara

[jaunty flare]

Same thing but the moment Brutus dies it goes down hill

[silent moss]

damn i see, yeah and most of the clears on that stage are using daimons or raku as there dps

[uneven flax]

Fu

[surreal lintel]

managed to beat it by spamming restart 😄 tyty

[idle oriole]

have u tried eironn in place of rowan

[uneven flax]

Ok I try

[uneven flax]

;-;

[haughty ridge]

Help

[haughty ridge]

Ok

[haughty ridge]

But I didn't get u

[safe hazel]

wdym

[haughty ridge]

I don't understand what u send

Help

[faint current]

Is this arcane lab? You should use a strong mercenary such as a saurus with +30 signature item

[silent moss]

just fight it with the best team you have and if you die use a duras tear to revive everyone

[fresh ice]

I always do lab with saurus/lucretia from mentor

[haughty ridge]

I'm at chapter 9 I don't have signature item yet

[faint current]

Signature items on mercenaries are determined by the person you borrow the hero from, not your own account

[haughty ridge]

I see

[swift quest]

Any good team I can use for campaign/ peaks of time?

[shell holly]

I've been stuck on 11-8 for 4 days. Any tips?

[silent moss]

take your daimon to legendaryplus and possibly mythic as well

[shell holly]

I would I just don't have fodder for him unless I want to use elites

[silent moss]

using a single shemira copy woldnt hurt shes only useful on one twisted boss fight and you can just merc one if that boss does come up if your okay with doing that for the time being

[shell holly]

I have no issues doing that. Thanks for the help!

[silent moss]

sounds good take him to leg+ for the time being and then wait till your able to replace the leg+ silvina with another leg+ before you take daimon to mythic that way you dont get level locked

[shell holly]

Got it

[silent moss]

im sure you know what to do from there best of luck on continuing your push

[shell holly]

Thanks! I actually don't as I started about 2 weeks ish ago but I'm reading guides and YouTube vids

[silent moss]

ahhh well you seem like you do glad the guides have been making it easier and after taking daimon to leg+ keep everything elses level at 120 and level daimon as high as you can he'll go on the front line and be able to clear effectively

[shell holly]

Sounds good man again thank you so much for the valuable info!

[silent moss]

for sure im sure youll be in chap 13 or 14 if you get lucky with another leg+ tonight

[leaden turtle]

For daimon look for CC heroes and you can use Brutus at E for a looong tome

[shell holly]

Yeah right now Oden and Rowan are my main supports with Nara and Lyca rn

I also don't actually own Brutus so I'll hope for a drop soon haha

[fiery wing]

fod ur shem and vedan to your daimon, upgrade daimon again, use ur gb fod again to make daimon mythic

[prisma needle]

Suggestions? :)

[worthy oracle]

Can I make 5 decent teams for ch36, or am I missing vitals

[pale kettle]

can you post what your CHaDs look like?

[quartz bison]

Try to ascend Grez and Silas and go for their Si 10 minimum

[hidden cobalt]

Good pvp teams ?

[royal stag]

Do u have Haelus or Mishka?

[hidden cobalt]

mishka yeah 209

[royal stag]

Try Lucretia cycle
Alna+GB
AAA, Merlin, Mortas

[hidden cobalt]

What’s AAA ainz albedo arthur?

[royal stag]

Yes

[idle oriole]

I hve 18 15 15 is that not even enough for this early on

[golden viper]

Anything I could change to make it work? Or I'm I hitting the limit

[wild tangle]

Any suggestions to clear this stage? Fortitude tree lvl 15 btw

Maybe replace Shemira with Nara?

[dim plank]

So like what should I do? Cause iam having a hard time and trying tij finish this trial :-)

[minor sparrow]

Need help last stage of Ch 25

[worthy oracle]

Chads?

[worthy oracle]

That's a term I haven't heard yet 😂

[worthy oracle]

I looked it up, I can do that. Everyone is resonated T2 rn, and all +20, except wukong and athalia. just applied to garrison ainz for the first time except

[proper relic]

Help plz

Use lucricia if ur stuck for so long

[proper relic]

Anybody😢?

[bright sigil]

Any tips?

[woven mason]

brutus, lyca, daymon and for last 2 spots either pop, rowan or fareal

in that order

[exotic jay]

alright i’ll try that thanks

i still get wiped pretty fast i think it might be rng though

[pale kettle]

Team 1: Alna Grezh Oden Silas Hodgekin, Team 2: Pippa Thoran Ezizh Lorsan Kelthur, Team 3: Eiron Skriath Luc Saf flex, Team 4: Rosa Rowan Mehira Lyca Kren (get Kren to +30), Team 5: Daimon PoP Raku (Get Raku to +30) Fera Arthur. (For Team 5 if it’s overkill then you can put Fera or Daimon into team 1 in place of Hodgekin)

[balmy tusk]

Hey yall, how i’ve chosen to ascend my characters aside. What’s my best lookin line up for bosses/this boss?

[woven mason]

why is thoran not frontline? I would put brutus bottom and daymon in middle. Nara pull fareal and use fareal or oden to CC enemies

[marble sage]

Help pls

[idle oriole]

U can try
Daimon
-Brutus
Nara
-thoran
Mirael

[plain kayak]

My screenshots get deleted when I try to post something

Can anyone help me in DMs maybe

[idle oriole]

Draw some lines on it or put a filter

[plain kayak]

Doesn't seem to work. What kind of filter?

[idle oriole]

Well the issue is discord sees the background of the hero box as exposed skin so, anything that would block that I guess

[vapid grove]

Who do I use to best this

Beat*

[plain kayak]

Any ideas?

[vapid grove]

Since your a higher chapter than me can you help me with my formation?

[plain kayak]

Nothing comes to mind, srry. Did u check the pins?

[vapid grove]

What are pins?

[idle oriole]

Pinned beginner guides in #classic-questions

[plain kayak]

The pinned messages

[idle oriole]

Depends on the enemy where u put him

[mental sun]

Oh alr I'm bout to put him on res so he's with the rest

[idle oriole]

U could swap him for arden or silas and put him opposite spider lady

[mental sun]

Ok so I should replace arden for him?

Like in general

[idle oriole]

Arden has good cc with his roots and Silas is useful cos of his heals so just whichever one u think u don’t need. Also ezizh isn’t always necessary to use, only if there’s an annoying backline enemy

[mental sun]

Ok thx so much I defo like silas healing talenes group ult diamons secondary group ult and mishka alr has cc aswell so I feel like arden is the lowest for me atm

[harsh urchin]

What do i use

[royal stag]

Try Mishka, Grezhul, Talene, Rowan, Daimon

[pale kettle]

Good line up?

[errant umbra]

I need help with this level in chapter 18

[pallid terrace]

i'm new can someone help me build a comp with the characters i have cause im so lost

[coral pier]

You need to stop making random ascended heroes in to legendary and legendary+

[pallid terrace]

i just powered up the first ones i got haha

idrk who's good

[coral pier]

Also you are manually levelling up 8 heroes when you only need to level up 5 and everyone else goes to crystal

You can level reset heroes in rickety cart. Reset them so you only have 5 manually levelled heroes.

[pallid terrace]

ok who do i reset tho

[coral pier]

Also for beginner guides you can go to #classic-questions and read the pinned messages. Among other things there is a detailed step by step early game guide.

[pallid terrace]

bet ty

[azure bison]

Should I make any changes to my lineup?

[tender lotus]

What would be a nice team for me?

[mental sun]

Resonating

[rain mural]

YEAH LMAO

[royal stag]

Read pins in #classic-questions

[kindred gulch]

Can anyone recommend a good team to beat this?

[reef minnow]

@kindred gulch wilder and celestial

[kindred gulch]

Yeah, but, Theyown is the last one to remain, and she destroys everyone, so looking for someone to take her out first.

[reef minnow]

Interesting

[silk burrow]

that’s not campagin right

[kindred gulch]

Nope, Lab. I sneezed and missed the exit button. lol She is left. Killed everyone.

Well, did it, but, I was trying to one shot it. Oh well.

[harsh urchin]

He keeps healing

[shell holly]

Looking for some lineup help. Stuck on chap 13

[woeful haven]

What to use against Kane guys? Haven't meta heroes

[finite tapir]

grez is really bad early game, swap him for thoran in your crystal... main heroes you're gonna want to use are daimon, oden, brutus, thoran, ferael, lyca, and rowan. experiment with having daimon in front or back line, move your heroes around to manipulate the oden portal at the beginning on who you want it to hit, and use nara to cc the enemies highest dmg or cc hero

[fiery wing]

i used this just merc talene the scarlet comp is better but you need raku 303 and manual

[woeful haven]

Talane 30 needed?

[fiery wing]

no just merc awakened talene 309e60 or talene 309

[woeful haven]

No one in my fr got her like this :)

[fiery wing]

ohh rip just find a better talene or just use ur own

[woeful haven]

Oki thanks

[shell holly]

Should I make ferael L+ or wait

[idle oriole]

Wait

[shell holly]

Ok

[haughty plover]

I need some help :)

[reef chasm]

help I just want to reach floor 300

[ebon hazel]

Brutus Fareal Daimon Nara Oden

[scenic roost]

Omg pls help who should I level up 😭

Or should I just wait? Until I can ascend my daimon or talene

OMG I DID IT SOMEHOW using this formation 😭

[proven river]

just build luc 😄

[reef chasm]

yea that seems to be the only option too bad I’m still building alna so it might take a long while

[idle oriole]

Can’t get close with anything

[woeful haven]

Any idea? My only missing Misty stage

[silent moss]

could try to merc a built antandra

[coral pier]

Did you check afk helper?

I would bet that people prioritise early cc like Athalia or Nara on that Mehira so she doesn't get the bats off

[rugged hull]

It doesnt work

[coral pier]

Did you try removing Thoran or Brutus and using Nara on Mehira to remove bats?

[coral pier]

Nice

[timber flame]

Any sugestions?

[fossil plume]

What is a good lineup I can use?

I already checked beginners guide, but I am not very good at making lineups. I’m in chapter 9

[solid stirrup]

u have daimon just throw him in with supports

use daimon as carry so pump him w levels and he’ll carry u to like ch30

[dull flame]

Daimon is the best early game carry imo

[fossil plume]

would this fit what you are describing?

[safe hazel]

you could try
daimon
>thoran
rowan
>lyca
silvina

level daimon to 120 alongside fodder heroes and read beginner guide pinned in #classic-questions if you haven't

[hard wind]

can i see your hero box please

[fossil plume]

me?

[hard wind]

was talking to ely but i can help you too, can you send a picture of the enemies you're facing on your current stage

[safe hazel]

@fossil plume try this

[hard wind]

you're supposed to get fodders to L+ lvl 160 first before ascending anything else past E+, read the guide in the pinned messages of #classic-questions for more info on that

[fossil plume]

i will

[hard wind]

try swapping daimon with satrana, you want him frontlined

[hearty frigate]

Bat bitch just goes permanantly invulnerable and leeching his full hp bar during that, lol

[hard wind]

i remember him being a pain for me too early on, yeah

you arent supposed to have any of your ascended tier heroes past E+ at the moment but theres no turning back now for the ones you have,

i would level shemira and see how that goes

get rid of that elite kid in the back and put in alaro

cant remember what her name is lol

[safe hazel]

try
oden
grez
kren
brutus
rosa(kren)

[hearty frigate]

So after i got rid of astar and put in Alaro, it went 500% worse

[hard wind]

then nevermind

you're a little bottlenecked atm because you put all your fodders into your legendary heroes

i would try leveling shemira like i said, she might be effective

[hearty frigate]

tried her too, should i replace anyone with her? because shes poop atm

[hard wind]

otherwise it sometimes helps to just swap heroes around until it works, you could try swapping grez and daimon

[safe hazel]

grez dies too fast or backline is dying first?

could try replace grez with thoran if former is the case

[hearty frigate]

Astar has been a force in helping carry, replacing her makes things go much worse xD

[safe hazel]

which one dies too fast though

[hard wind]

do you have a mentor ely or an open friend slot

[safe hazel]

you can try
kren
>brutus
rosa(kren)
>thoran
tasi/cc

[hearty frigate]

i have a mentor, and i have an open friend slot

[hard wind]

i can lend you one of my heroes, but make sure you're following the pinned guide in #classic-questions from now on

[safe hazel]

try nara him

lineup depends on how much dmg your kren ult is doing tho

if kren ult is gg then you can try kren pos 3 and rosa 4

[hard wind]

let me finish this lab run and ill get you to friend me

[safe hazel]

has kren ulted and if so how much dmg?

maybe try
oden
>grez
eirron
>brutus
kren

you want +10 on kren if possible tho

maybe
oden
>brutus
eirron
>rosa(kren)
kren

could garrison PoP and link to grez or are you a no dim account?

rip that'd probably be your easiest path with kren early tbh

maybe rowan +20 could help as your next ascension/investment but PoP is all I can really think of apart from that 3 pull working with some rng maybe

[timber flame]

Any sugestions? (Chapter 31)

[safe hazel]

try
daimon
>rosa ( daimon)
rowan
>brutus
ferael

[timber flame]

didnt really work

[safe hazel]

what's the issue

rosa dies? or backline dies

[timber flame]

it just worked with literally the same comp

like the original comp

I dont know how

[safe hazel]

btw stop using lucius and read pinned beginner guide if you haven't

you made a lot of L/M heroes which will hurt you

[timber flame]

Oh, I havent read it. What does L/M mean by the way?

[safe hazel]

Legendary/Mythic

[true flax]

I cant pass this lvl can someone help me?

[finite tapir]

show rest of box please... initial thought is to put alaro in the front where talene is so his dummy tanks and buys time for your daimon

[true flax]

Ok let me try

It didnt work

[finite tapir]

try ferael instead of pippa too

also, can u tell me what the problem is? like is daimon dying instantly or do you not have enough dmg or something else

[true flax]

It failed again

I think im hard stuck on this lvl

[true flax]

Daimon is kinda week and he dies fast

[true flax]

And i kinda dont have enought dmg idk

Cuz any of my troops have time to use their ult s

[finite tapir]

try alaro lyca front with diamon ezizh oden in the back

and use ezizh on who is doing the most dmg to u

[true flax]

It didnt work

They all have the same big dmg and ezizh doesnt help whit much

Maybe im just hard stuck on this lvl

Thanks for ur time bro

[finite tapir]

talene alaro front with daimon ferael oden in back might work... there should be a way to beat it with your current power but if not then you just need some more lvls and you will pass it easy

[finite tapir]

if you ever get a brutus copy put him in your crystal immediately, one of the best heroes for stalling for daimon

[true flax]

Ok

[violet hound]

Any way I can clear this stage now even with a merc/who should I merc

[fathom bison]

I’m stuck on 21-60 any formation suggestions?

[uneven flax]

Emotional support

[jaunty flare]

Been stuck here for 2 days

[pale kettle]

Help? Estrilda knocks me over and then game over, according to the replay Angelo deals the most dmg after Estrilda which is why Naras there but uh... anything there gets oneshot by Estrildas spear thingymabob at the start, I'm gonna go test with oden right after this

[silk ibex]

Never put Daimon in front of Estrilda, he gets completely screwed by her opening charge, also Morvus and Ferael, that's an RNG-heavy stage lol

[pale kettle]

but if i put ferael where daimon is, ferael gets one-shot 😭

[silk ibex]

Can he proc his Terrify in time? That's literally all he needs to do

[pale kettle]

no he gets oneshot before terrifying, thats the only position he can terrify in

oden for some reason wants to port hogan instead so :(

[silk ibex]

That's Hendrik

[still dirge]

does daimon go in the front or back?

[silk ibex]

@still dirge Very early on it's whatever, he can tank in the front, but later on there's a lot of stuff that can shut him down like Estrilda so you put him in the back and start using him like the carry he is

[pale kettle]

aezizh

lucius
arden
golus/talene
daimon

try this but ur overlevelling anyway i think so u shld be able to beat it with nearly anything

[native orchid]

OMG thx it worked

[pale kettle]

np

[idle oriole]

Do u have a clear for 27-48? Or could I just follow u to see

[woeful haven]

4 good teams to progress 35chapter+?

[pale kettle]

ur on my friend list i think

[pale kettle]

@idle oriole nvm id?

[idle oriole]

137464752

[pale kettle]

sent

[idle oriole]

Tyy

[vapid grove]

Any ideas?

[pale kettle]

pop

lucius
ainz/lyca
brutus
daimon

[wet dagger]

Any ideas for this one?

[spare robin]

Hard to give advice on these without seeing exactly what happens, but throwing out Oscar entirely would probably be a good start. Peggy for more stalling for Scarlet to melt them maybe, or Rosa to fuel Scarlet with more oomph

You really should work on getting your Rowan to +30 though more than anything else, that will make a very big difference across the entire game

Not sure how much work Lucius will be able to put into the team any longer there either

[wet dagger]

Alright I’ll try without Oscar, the main problem is that the shemira and rosaline kill everyone super fast

[spare robin]

Who does Fawkes box away if you add him? If he disables Shemira that would probably help too

[wet dagger]

I tried putting him in but he usually dies before he can

[wet dagger]

Actually got it thanks, replaced Oscar with fawkes and he boxed shemira

[spare robin]

💪

[fossil plume]

is this the best lineup i can use against my enemies

[shell holly]

Should i L+Farael

[safe hazel]

no

[shell holly]

What should I be waiting for

[safe hazel]

wait and level up daimon to max

ferael M is a decent ascencion but it might be better to wait to see your other options first if you wanna rush HCP

[wooden zephyr]

What setup to use?

[idle oriole]

check pinned beginner guides in #classic-questions

[white vigil]

Am I finally at a hard wall here or do I have a chance against this team if I just keep hitting retry to get lucky. My Nara can’t grab fast enough to deal with Fawkes

[fossil plume]

is this the best lineup i can use for my enemies

all my heroes die instantly

i can’t level up carry because it can’t ascend and I can’t level up supports because they should be 20-40 levels under carry

[idle oriole]

send the rest of ur box

[idle oriole]

im assuming u read the pins already but ideally u should be leveling up 5 fodder heroes, in any case just get everyone to 120 if u can

[fossil plume]

i made this

[light needle]

Never ascend to Legendary without guaranteeing that you can go to Legendary+ directly.

This can be a big problem

[shut smelt]

Is this good formation? If not, help me with the lineup. I have other three hero available

[idle oriole]

if u havent already, check the pinned beginner guides in #classic-questions

[white vigil]

It’s not much. I have a Mehira and Mortas I plan on putting in the resonating crystal next but that’s about it

[shut smelt]

Doesn't answer my question above but okay thanks.

[white vigil]

If you read it it will tell you what to focus on. you would have leveled different heroes. Your team comp doesn’t really matter if you are pre level 160

[white vigil]

TLDR

[idle oriole]

u can probably reset those heroes u hve leveled up at 100< . then maybe try
nara
-lyca
daimon
-brutus
oden
it might just come down to positioning. I also dont know if grezhul is great before 9f

[white vigil]

Yeah I’m going to reset them once I need the crystals since I don’t have anything to spend rn (don’t think Numisu will spike much at 220 lol). I’ll try them thanks 🙂

[shut smelt]

Sounds like you cannot do what you want in AFK Arena... sounds pretty unbased.

[idle oriole]

get 240 daimon before getting everyone 220

might even be worth resetting grezhul to 200 to help with that, but resetting can be annoying ik

[white vigil]

Yeah for sure, just kinda stalled thanks to Raku stuck at 180 🙃 by the time i get the fodder hopefully 240 daimon won’t be hard to do. Fodder kicking my ass rn

[idle oriole]

yea i feel that lol

[naive kindle]

Team for story? Ch25

[white vigil]

@idle oriole your comp worked btw, Tysm 😁😁

[idle oriole]

[idle oriole]

are u a returning player?

[naive kindle]

Kind of haha

[idle oriole]

i mean u can check the pinned guides in #classic-questions to catch up on some meta but u should be fine with Daimon,ferael,rowan,thoran/brutus if u have him. Pop, eironn, oden, nara,lyca can be flex heroes too

[naive kindle]

Pop is?

[idle oriole]

prince of persia

[naive kindle]

Ohh roger ty

[marsh solar]

for one id swap rowan and one of ur ascended so you can break ur crystal

[idle oriole]

i will once i get dust, still need 65k to get everyone 201

[marsh solar]

right was just saying

[idle oriole]

ye ye

[main leaf]

Any tips for changes? I've been using shemira, Hogan, Lucius, Rowan and Rosaline and have hit a brick wall on 14-9

[vapid grove]

USE EZIZH HES ONE OF THE BEST CARACHTERS

[main leaf]

Even at just legendary? I was thinking about using him but he was just legendary

[vapid grove]

Yes

Use him instead of hogan

[main leaf]

as a tank? okay, ill wait for my afk box to give me some mage gear and give that a go

[vapid grove]

Idk tbh

Alaro can be used as a tank

[weary snow]

Is this winnable because I cannot seem to

[tight juniper]

Here, used Tidus, Skreg, Skriath, Numi, and Kren. Kren 20 should work and Skreg doesn't have to be 9f.

[weary snow]

Would my skriath not immediately die at legendary+ tho

I’ll try

[tight juniper]

Yeah, he would. You haven't even ascended him? Just use some other heroes like idk Brutus or Safiya shit.

[ebon hazel]

Why would you use him at L+

[weary snow]

Oh I thought u were recommending that team

[ebon hazel]

I mean it is the most consistent for it, but why would you not have Skri made, literally highest t priority Maulers

[tight juniper]

Well, Skriath is used for his 3f, maybe even grouping with his ult.

[weary snow]

I know I gotta build skriath but currently working on scarlet with the guaranteed pulls

isn’t kren highest priority?

[ebon hazel]

Nah skri

[dense bane]

@raven egret

[raven egret]

Use basically all your fodder. Gear em up. I’d do
Arden

Golus (or whatever his name is)
Mirael
hogan
And that Gb chick. My memory sucks on names

[silent moss]

you have 2 e+ of raku take him to mythic and he can be your dps yes ideally daimon is what you want but if you want to continue mireal wont help honestly much more

[raven egret]

@dense bane also fix your wishlist according to the beginner guides in #classic-questions

[tight pawn]

Post box sorted by 4F

[raven egret]

☝🏼

[tight pawn]

That stage should be extremely easy with mirael with call

[dense bane]

How do i do that?

[dense bane]

Actually made it, i just switches some gears

[tight pawn]

LB wilder mauler GB

[raven egret]

Sometimes that’s all it takes.

[dense bane]

Already Done 🥴

[dense bane]

Should i do that? Someone told Me before that raku isn’t super good but better than mirael 😅

[raven egret]

Hahaha where’s your daimon’s and Brutus? And yes take Raku to mythic and work on his SI

[tight pawn]

Get kren to M not raku

Kren much better option then raku

[silent moss]

kren or raku is fine they both are better than mireal at your level

[raven egret]

He can do both…

[tight pawn]

But he should do one and save the fodder in wilders

[dense bane]

Idkkk ;(( i wish i got some brutus

[raven egret]

Raku and kren are both solid options. Maybe he does both? 🤷🏻‍♂️

[silent moss]

ill let you two handle this best of luck

[dense bane]

Thanks agent

[raven egret]

Hahaha we’re all kind of right. There are more folks in #classic-questions that can help with who to ascend

[tight pawn]

Well chance is that he gets 8 copies of another wilder which will hurt him later on and I’d do kren > raku

[raven egret]

I’ve had m+ Raku for a while and haven’t had any issues in charm runs.

I mean I guess mishka could be a better option

[tight pawn]

For you it’s fine to do M raku but id avoid doing that early just in case it gates him off an early HCP or smth

Raku is good option as well ig you could do both but I’d just play it safe

[vapid grove]

Any ideas

[quaint zenith]

Whats the best i could do here

[raven egret]

Drop morrow do albedo.

@raven egret @vapid grove

[raven egret]

Mishka wstrilda oden hodge

[quaint zenith]

How do i line them ip

Up*

[raven egret]

Mishka in 5 slot and hodge and estrilda front

[quaint zenith]

Which one is hodge

[raven egret]

The pirate

[quaint zenith]

Alr

What about this one

[oblique nebula]

I’m stuck in mid ch8, any tips for the best formation? I can put 4 in my RC

[loud scroll]

Planning to make alaro si30, anyone else worth considering?

[west skiff]

Help me for the final round, Hard situation, no Alna 9/9 and I'm totally broke out now

[pale kettle]

granit...? he wants +30

[loud scroll]

Thanks

[zinc island]

Pleading for help.

[silent moss]

post your hero box as well hard to suggest anything

[zinc island]

Alr

[zinc island]

I figured out that my dad got a hold of my afk arena account and made Lucius mythic using my fodders 🤨-

[silent moss]

see if this works lyca is needed to match the enemies haste at the start
daimon
brutus
silias
lyca
oden/farael

[zinc island]

Ok

[rare quiver]

Uh can anyone help me out here lol not sure why i cant beat this stage

[idle oriole]

I’m assuming u read the beginner guides. U can use mirael, hogan, Rowan,arden, lyca. Golus can be a decent tank early on and oden can also be useful

[steady girder]

Hi could someone help me what to do? Im stuck at 12-23

Shemira just feels weak

[hollow hatch]

she kinda is, what are you currently using?

[silent moss]

try this
daimon
shemira
rowan
lyca
silias

[steady girder]

Lyca and silas dies instantly

[silent moss]

thats fine lyca is only there for the haste and silias is only there to give the faction buff try to level rowans signature item

[steady girder]

I dont know where to get the things for upgrading

[silent moss]

you get them from peaks of time and wondering ballons if you havent caught up on those

[steady girder]

I only have the event there, idk

[silent moss]

go to the dark forest then at the top right is peaks of time

there you will see historic ventures wandering ballon and wondrous pouch

[steady girder]

In the ancient ruins are too strong enemies for me

[silent moss]

i see, well your doing the best you can honestly just keep doing dailies and try to take shemira to 180 after you get the other 4 heros to 140

[oblique nebula]

yh I did and that’s what I’m using but couldn’t pass this stage.

[steady girder]

Idk if i want to keep her she doesnt feel strong @hollow hatch said it too

[silent moss]

shes not but at this moment you dont have a choice since she is already mythic at around chapter 18 is when the enemies get to be around 240 and shell really fall off by then you will hopefully have a better carry

[hollow hatch]

well she does get a significant buff at 161, so that might help. Also consider using more crowd control, it's really hard to outheal enemy damage and will be (but you might have more success with silas at shemira lvl 161). Until then try replacing the silas and daimon with CC heroes such as tasi, arden, and if you have/get them oden/pippa

[oblique nebula]

Any tips? Ankhira keeps trapping my scarlet or Mirael,

[pale kettle]

Hi, could I get some help? Baden does the most dmg. ATM I'm copying a clear, Oden hates me and tps Baden no matter what I do so that sucks. Rowan gets poofed and then Daimon dies right after. Closest I got to clearing was baden dead but then Estrilda or Silvina forgot killed me

[safe hazel]

Why not swap lyca and daimon and Nara for oden/eirron

[pale kettle]

if lycas there, ferael dies

if i swap nara with oden, that tps baden(and sometimes doesnt bc estrilda start glowy thing)
if i use eironn i dont stun ferael and daimon stunned and he die. if i swap lyca and daimon with eironn, once brutus shield is gone daimon goes poof bc he didnt kill anyone yet and he dies bc of various reasons(silvina instakill for some reason, shemira hook removes daimon shield and baden kills, occasionally badens ghost goes behind brutus and kills daimon) :(

[safe hazel]

What about swapping daimon and ferael

And try get rid of Nara because I feel like that might just be hooking ferael and letting him deal a lot of dmg more easily unless you kill him fast enough

[pale kettle]

ferael cant dodge tank, if hes at front line then he insta dies, he fears once to temporaily stun him, rn i replaced him with thoran at the front and daimon at the back, ill try replacing nara with eironn and see how it goes

[safe hazel]

Ferael 221 is big so go for that next with your dust

[pale kettle]

ah ok, will do, thx

[astral lodge]

What's a good lineup to use here? Hogan, Daimon and?

[idle oriole]

Hogan daimon mirael oden ferael should generally work i think. But it’s stage dependent

[astral lodge]

I see, I may try that since I'm stuck on my current stage for 3 days already. Thanks!

[rare quiver]

Does anyone know who i should put on my RC?
Currently my team is daimon, thoran, rosa, oden, and silvina/zaph
How do i make the team better with who i already have?

[pale kettle]

i have questions

why is ur hogan and kren randomly at 41

[rare quiver]

When i was really early in the game i wanted to try tidus+kren
I have to upgrade hogan anyway after my daimon gets capped right? For RC

But uh could you help me out with who to put under RC
currently stuck at 8-40

Im thinking that i need more cc against the isabelle that kills everything so maybe morrow or cecilia but i wanted to get more opinions

[idle oriole]

maybe ferael and eironn

[safe hazel]

nara for isabelle

arden is good cc early as well

[rare quiver]

No nara
Arden kinda just dies immediately i think

[rare quiver]

Ok ill try putting them on RC and see how it goes

[idle oriole]

arden is useful, maybe not always but his roots are gud

[rare quiver]

Any suggestions for team comp? Who should i replace for ferael/eironn/arden

[idle oriole]

i guess daimon, mirael, thoran, oden, ferael. eironn and arden can be switched in situationally

[rare quiver]

Alright sure
Rosa/morrow/other supports dont get used?

[idle oriole]

rosa can be gud to get mirael to ult twice, but morrow not so much

[rare quiver]

alright thanks for your help man
ill put eironn and ferael on the rc

[idle oriole]

[steady girder]

Tasi just dies instantly

Along with rowan and lyca

[raven egret]

Can someone tell me why this ain’t workin

[craggy nebula]

Can’t get pass this

[idle oriole]

post ur full box

[idle oriole]

u can check the pinned beginner guides in #classic-questions, theyre pretty helpful. For now tho u can try
arden
-ogi
tasi
-brutus
belinda
idk if it'll work cos belinda's not very reliable tho

[woeful haven]

36-56 any help? I can't kill more then 2-3 teams..

[craggy nebula]

Oh shi she not reliable?

I did so much grinding 😪

[idle oriole]

Yea she was alright like 2 years ago but there’s better ppl now, the guides show the best heroes to use

[zinc island]

Barely passed with oden 😍😍

[fluid ether]

whats a solid pve team i can built with these heroes?

[idle oriole]

Mirael ferael Rowan rosa(follows mirael) maybe skreg as a 2nd frontline for now. Nara and arden are useful supports in certain situations too

[fluid ether]

thank youu

[wise schooner]

Currently stuck on this stage, does anyone mind helping me with heroes I can put into the resonating crystal and add to the lineup to hopefully pass this?

[fluid spoke]

help me get this done so i unlock the free copy from misty valley

[silent moss]

do you have a copy of lorsan?

[fluid spoke]

ya

i lied

[silent moss]

merc avaliable?

[fluid spoke]

thought of respen

tomorrow will be

[silent moss]

noted give me some time to look through more of afk helper

[fluid spoke]

thanks a lot

[silent moss]

ferael
grez
oden
daimon
eironn

[fluid spoke]

my grez kinda weak

i mean he is ascended and all but 0 survivability

[willow shuttle]

help.

[fluid spoke]

yea not really even close

[silent moss]

honestly id just wait then for a merc and go from there every screenshot at tht level has a lorsan or is a luck battle and since you dont have auto battle i dont think you want to sit there and click retry a thousand times

[fluid spoke]

yea ill wait for tomorrow

thanks for ur help

[silent moss]

yeah no problem best of luck tomorrow

[silent moss]

eironn
thoran
lyca
daimon
rowan

[willow shuttle]

got obliterated

[silent moss]

give this a go then
lyca
thoran
rowan
daimon
oden

[willow shuttle]

ive tried these

[willow shuttle]

it actually worked 5-6 tries

[silent moss]

yup oden rng

[willow shuttle]

how about this one.. a boss..

[silent moss]

make sure duras call is on daimon but try this
lyca
thoran
rowan
daimon
silvina

[willow shuttle]

call? a taunt? okay.

[silent moss]

your win condition is daimon everytime the more he ultimates the more chance you have at winning

[willow shuttle]

ohh.. you mean the artifact

lyca's items doesnt really matter right. just the haste?

[silent moss]

yeah i said duras call i should have said artifact sorry about that

correct she doesnt matter other than the haste to make daimon ultimate quicker and match other lycas haste values at the start if there is one

[willow shuttle]

applies to all game modes? cus if i ever have two rangers in a team ill just give it to the other.. the best ones

[silent moss]

in other things youll be allowed to use a mercenary more freely like peaks of time voyages labyrinth stuff like that but when it comes to tower and campaign if the enemy has a lyca try to bring your own

there isnt any class specific bonuses like 3 rangers that i can recall but there is faction bonuses for bring 3 graveborns or 3 of any faction in that regard

[willow shuttle]

oh what i meant was if there are other rangers in the team... ill just give the best gears to the others instead of lyca?.. but thanks for the info

[silent moss]

ah noted and np best of luck

[willow shuttle]

no i was still asking lol

[silent moss]

gear is really only important on your carry hero tanks then supports but yeah you can put gear on lyca if you have it if not its not going to make too much of a difference since she'll more than likely die

[cunning warren]

need help with r2, r1 and r3 are easy but idk what to do for this

[willow shuttle]

@silent moss tysm. youve helped me clear two stages. i prolly do the rest experimenting. thanks again

[silent moss]

have you looked at others battles in the previews to see if you might be able to copy theres?

[cunning warren]

all of them have higher investments and a higher rc

[silent moss]

no problem if you get stuck ask some more

[silent moss]

noted ill check afk helper and try to see if i can see anything

so for one team use
luci
brutus
eironn
safiya
nara
since you dont have skriath built just yet its the best i can suggest use it to beat one of the first 2 teams then ainz comp the other team and on the 3rd use whatever you have left thats my best suggestion

[safe hazel]

I caught up to you lol

[cunning warren]

alr i’ll try it thanks

[zinc island]

Hii

[cunning warren]

nice

[safe hazel]

I’m stuck on that same stage as well @cunning warren

You probably need to get raku +30 ASAP tho

[cunning warren]

he is +30

[safe hazel]

I’m blind 😂

[zinc island]

only 21 😭

[safe hazel]

Get rowan first

Unless raku is your main carry

[zinc island]

I have him just not mythic💀

[pale kettle]

if I wonna get the best out of thoran what is better
lineup no1 with ezizh or number 2

[silent moss]

dont bother trying to use thoran till you have his 30si he wont even work

[pale kettle]

he worked from stage 1 till 36
and his sig is 29 now

[silent moss]

just letting you know is all he typically requires his 30 to even work so im surprised he did anything and its entirely stage and team dependant for thoran not one single team is going to work but the first picture you posted uses less valuable heros

[safe hazel]

Thoran +0 works pretty well I’ve used it a lot throughout ch 31/32

[pale kettle]

if its about heros I have more than enough for fight 2 and 3 so it's ok

[silent moss]

noted ive avoided thoran at all cost which is good to know

[safe hazel]

For number 1 swap thoran and lorsan

[pale kettle]

I will try it out now

[safe hazel]

Honestly he isn’t too rng dependant for most stages with correct positioning but some of the stages will take hundreds of tries or even 1000+

[silent moss]

which is eaxtly why i avoide him thankfully auto battle has made it more viable so i am building him and his core units out atm

[pale kettle]

it will work I guess with a few trys

[safe hazel]

You didn’t swap them?

Whole point of pippa +20 for cheese is to launch thoran into the enemies

[pale kettle]

I didn't swap them it did work
I know what u mean
and pippa need to be in the middle so he can't fail

[white patrol]

im stuck on 13-36 can someone help me?

[idle oriole]

Send a screenshot of the stage and ur hero box

[white patrol]

pretty sure i fucked myself over by overinvesting in shemeria

[pale kettle]

wait a second

[white patrol]

only other solution i see is soul link ainz to shemeria and pray that satrana is good

[pale kettle]

the biggest problem u have made is this read the beginners guide its important look

[safe hazel]

Doesn’t need to be in middle

[white patrol]

yeah thats why im starting over

[pale kettle]

I tried it and won XD
what u told me

[proper relic]

Any tips?

[raven egret]

Any tips for this? I wanna hold my top 10 spot

[safe hazel]

What teams are losing

[raven egret]

Sometimes the Ainz team. Sometimes the last team. I keep making minor adjustments but idk what’ll work

[safe hazel]

Well I’d do Arthur albedo ainz rowan flex team 2 full GBs

Then team 3 lyca eirron raku mishka lorsan

[raven egret]

I’ll move it around and try it out! Thanks

[safe hazel]

Np usually in my LCT it’s pretty back in forth with their ainz going into my GBs and their GBs going into my weaker third team

Once you get a good third team you’ll be attacked less but for now it’ll be pretty back and forth

[raven egret]

Got it. I’m 9th rn and wanna try and hold it so I can get LDV next month

[safe hazel]

Yh dw if you get attacked a lot and lose you just have to attack them back to get your rank back I’m 10th myself and it’s very back and forth

[raven egret]

Tryna beat him

[exotic jay]

anyone have tips on how to beat this?

[raven egret]

Daimon Brutus fera Rowan Lyca/Belinda. In that order 1-5. Or do Lyca Brutus fera Rowan daimon.

One of those two will get it

[exotic jay]

the back row gets deleted so fast it’s weird

[raven egret]

It’s Belinda. Lemme think. Do the second option but put Belinda in place of ferael

[exotic jay]

alright ill try taht

[exotic jay]

i got it with buruts, lyca, fera, rowan, daimon

[raven egret]

It’s a tough stage

[exotic jay]

yea its weird but thank god i got it after a few days so thanks for the idea lol

[safe hazel]

Try ainz into r3 and GBs into r1

[raven egret]

Just let that monster 5 pull destroy me and go for 2/3?

[safe hazel]

What you should be doing

[raven egret]

Oh 😂 always try and do 2/3? Pick the two weaker ones and win?

[safe hazel]

Yeah have you been trying to win them all 😂

[raven egret]

Yes. 👀 Usually I get 2/3 or all three. Then sometimes I get rolled on all 3

[safe hazel]

Yh don’t do that lol

[raven egret]

Lmao alright lemme try again

[raven egret]

Lol I did it. That was easy af that way

[safe hazel]

Let’s see your teams now

[raven egret]

And move around as needed @safe hazel

I’m hoping I stay top 10 for a while now. Im at 4

[safe hazel]

Swap Silas and ferael and mishka with eirron

For pvp you usually want eirron front without skri

[raven egret]

Ahhh okay

[safe hazel]

Put ferael on your furn wishlist if you haven’t btw

[raven egret]

I have. I just got his 3f

[safe hazel]

K how are you garrisoning 3 dims at once btw?

[raven egret]

My pop runs out at reset

Which sucks because I have him at 9f.

[vapid elbow]

Is my account all messed up?

Seem's like shemira is not the meta anymore

[frozen fog]

From what I know Shemira is still a good carry

[safe hazel]

yh she isn't meta anymore

[vapid elbow]

Hmm what should i put my focus on?

[safe hazel]

daimon is meta early game carry now

[vapid elbow]

I dont even have it

I think is better start over again :(

Or its worth use that scroll that changes all atributes of shemira for this daimon?

[safe hazel]

probably worth to start over imo read the beginner guide pinned if you haven't

[vapid elbow]

Ok tnks

[pearl karma]

Is talene a good one to buy in the warriors gkory store for 450

[wanton pelican]

This is my current team, should I add Bitterblight Oden? He is Elite+. And if so, who would I replace?

[pearl karma]

@wanton pelican oden is insane good in my opinion

[wanton pelican]

Okay, glad to hear that! Should I remove Hogan?

[pearl karma]

Ehhh idk who to replace im not so far😅😂😂

[brazen relic]

11-35? gb only

[silk ibex]

I think you should read the pinned beginner guide in #classic-questions, those are good units but it's not how you level them

[tiny imp]

Is there any replace for queen

[tight juniper]

She can fit in some aspect of Lucretia cheese. I don't know why you're using Thoran, Thoran cheese doesn't work against Ezizh.

[tiny imp]

It was in afk helper

[tight juniper]

[tiny imp]

lmfao I mean if it worked for them why not me

[tight juniper]

Afkhelper is weird. The hell do you even use Thoran for? You can use Lucretia 5p with Queen to get it to work, that's all.

[tiny imp]

yea but i dont have queen

[tight juniper]

Well, you can't really replace within the formation. You have to use some alternative team.

[tiny imp]

oh :/

[tiny imp]

I won nvm

[vapid grove]

Yo

[nova aurora]

Help

Also got khazard e+

Actually no I don’t, not enough power hehe

[lusty osprey]

I'm stuck on this stage and need help

[stable ember]

Mainly heroes issue imo. You have no real carry and seems like you've quite over invested in eironn. Drop either tasi or lyca for Daimon or Belinda @lusty osprey

[proper relic]

My thoran is now lvl 240

[fiery wing]

thats always the case for afkhelper lol

especially charm stages

[tiny imp]

Fr

I gotta mix and match

[idle oriole]

no check the pins, theres a guide on what to get from the event

[idle oriole]

u can try
daimon
-rowan (try get his +30 soon tbh)
lyca
-brutus
thoran
u can maybe switch brutus and thoran positions here too.

[elder sand]

help pls with 37-44 @worldly apex, tryed various afk helper setups but none work

[worldly apex]

try this, pippa weapon/boots might be important so she throws thoran

ezizh arti shouldnt matter much

[woeful haven]

@worldly apex any help 36-56? Getting rekt there... can win max 2-3 battles

[worldly apex]

which teams win

[woeful haven]

Ainz, 5pull and sometimes GB

depends against which enemy team...

i feel like i need 5 ainz...

[worldly apex]

ainz the round 1, remove rowan and lyca replace with ezio and Joker, see if it wins
round 2 Lucretia 5pull should be able to win, can try replacing brutus with queen so you free him up but its okay if not
round 3 is usually thoran, you're pretty low deficit, try Thoran lorsan pippa (needs +20) ezizh flora
if that doesnt work, remove lucretia from 5pull (it might still work) and we try to make her work on this round
round 4 charm (Rowan Lyca raku mehira (needs windbinder) maybe raine
round 5 try your gb team, you can do grez brutus front if you freed him

[woeful haven]

thanks, gonna try

[keen rain]

What's daimon's optimal lineup?(early game)

[woeful haven]

Ezizh, lorsan dying on 1 hit every time

[worldly apex]

thats fine

everyone can die, thoran just needs to ult

[woeful haven]

ye but he do nothing

[worldly apex]

thoran?

[woeful haven]

ye

[worldly apex]

what artifacts and stuff

[woeful haven]

eye, T2

[worldly apex]

give him call if you dont have it 5*

[woeful haven]

i have 5*

[worldly apex]

try eye and 4 calls then

[woeful haven]

i mean he uses his ulty, but he does not kill anyone with it 😄

[worldly apex]

ah

we'll try Lucretia then, do you have duel divinity artifact?

[woeful haven]

well now he killed 4, tasi killed my rest heroes solo 😄

[worldly apex]

oh

it'll be rng then

he just needs to hit tasi as well

[woeful haven]

duel divinity is one of 2 last artifacts?

[worldly apex]

yeah the last one rn

[woeful haven]

ye cant beat last 2 😦

ok letting it on auto, we will see. Lucrecia used in second comp, also wasnt cheese ..

ha he did it!

[worldly apex]

nice

[woeful haven]

4th was cheese lol.. Need to save this comp

Completed, thanks

[worldly apex]

gj

[worldly apex]

depends on stage, fera is a good pair tho

[sharp dragon]

What changes should i aim at to improve my line up?

[idle oriole]

U could put Rowan in ur crystal, also don’t take random 4F heroes to L+ it’s kind of a waste of food which u could save to take better heroes straight to M/A to break crystal cap for example

[idle oriole]

Send ur box

[sharp dragon]

What 4f means?

[idle oriole]

4 Faction A tier heroes

[sharp dragon]

Ohh i see thanks and yh about the l+ i made some mistakes earlier im trying to fix it now

[woeful haven]

Thanks to yours advises I processed to another chapter too :))

[worldly apex]

ggs

[woeful haven]

And ascended Lucretia 🥰 🎉

[idle oriole]

Like this oden portals the tree so daimon survives more than 10seconds, the closest I’ve gotten is only down to shem, Isabella and ezizh tho

[rugged hound]

Hi, I'm stuck at stage 10-19. Any tips on who I could use? I don't mind waiting 24h to change heroes in the crystal.

[safe hazel]

Try swap thoran and daimon then thoran for rowan

Potentially oden for PoP as well

[pale kettle]

Help

[idle oriole]

i survive a bit longer with pop but still dont seem to hve the damage to kill them

[safe hazel]

What’s daimons gear?

He should be able to provide enough dps with good gear

[safe hazel]

Try brutus rowan ferael lyca daimon

[safe hazel]

Golus daimon Arden mirael silvina

[safe hazel]

What about rowan Brutus daimon nara with pos being ezizh/PoP/lyca/oden

Not sure if oden possesses enough dps to make him worth it for you

[idle oriole]

i'll give it a try

[idle oriole]

yea true, i can get him 240 soon if that helps

[safe hazel]

Try ascend ferael if you can he becomes very good at lvl 221 since his fears stun the enemies

[idle oriole]

ahh yea, ok. i need 1 more e+ food for it so hopefully in a few days. So then i leave oden 220 and wait for ferael to take him to 221?

[safe hazel]

Yh I would

You can also see if the dps from oden is good enough to justify taking him up before ferael

But I just got oden recently and have never used him for singles

[idle oriole]

yea alright cool, ty

[rugged hound]

I'll give it a try, thanks!

[fiery wing]

if you want alnaless, PoPless clears follow me i just cleared 37

[woeful haven]

What's the follow? Don't remember it was here before

[fiery wing]

its a new feature couple months ago you follow to check other ppl clears without adding

[woeful haven]

Interesting, and how can I follow you?

[fiery wing]

search my id: 131715563

click on my profile

beside the add button theres a follow button

[woeful haven]

Well following you, how can I see your formations?

I see now.. Well you have crazy heroes

[fiery wing]

not really, i just love gb

[woeful haven]

I haven't merlin, Leonardo, even that GB guy you using :) probably will not help me much, but thanks!

Ah it's Thoran.. Ok

[vapid grove]

Any ideas?

Wdym pop

[viral roost]

this. they put 2 of the most annoying heroes in this stage. goddamnit.

[vapid grove]

I just beat that lol

[viral roost]

:(

[vapid grove]

Thoran and grezhul front, lyca rosaline and daimon back

[viral roost]

aight lemme try

wow that sucked some serious ass

[vapid grove]

Too bad kid

[viral roost]

oh well, thanks for trying to help

[fiery wing]

keep retrying

[viral roost]

oh believe me I retried a LOT with a bunch of lineups

[fiery wing]

if it works for others it should work for u

[woeful haven]

taking back, its actually very helpful, thank You!

[fiery wing]

suree just merc if u dont have heroes i'm using

[woeful haven]

i havent merlin and leonardo, working on leonardo, 30/60 (so it will take time). But i used random guys instead of them, Ainz is ok with everyone, he does not care 😄 just ulty all

[ember steppe]

Been stuck for a while

[viral roost]

oh well i just got grezhul to mythic and wow his signature item is strong

and I passed the stage too :)

[pale kettle]

shldve saved for daimon imo but ur choice

[vapid grove]

Any ideas?

[idle oriole]

Do u have nara

[vapid grove]

No

[idle oriole]

Hm, well u can try putting in prince or talene for belinda

[smoky cobalt]

I kinda am starting to sturggle I'd it becauss of the line up, comp it self, or levels

[fiery wing]

u obviously didnt read the guides from #classic-questions

[smoky cobalt]

I have my wish set to other stuff

Wishlist* but I get those hero's always

[prisma needle]

Anything I can try other than waiting for 3 more heroes to get A?

[ember steppe]

what do

[scenic roost]

Anything I can do?

[sharp adder]

This enough for thoran cheese

[silent moss]

put mehira and silias on your crystal drop estrilda then use this formation
daimon
brutus
silias
talene
mehira

[silent moss]

may want to ask in questions honestly i dont do thoran cheese so i cant say

[sharp adder]

k

[silent moss]

split your luci and 5 pull up yes they work good together but luci doesnt require them and then you might be able to use 5 pull

use prince

if you can make that team work luci as im sure you know can clear most things

[scenic roost]

Ight imma do that appreciate the help

[marble sage]

Help

[silent moss]

build grez up rather than nara and hodgkin typically izold is the gb tower carry but requiures 303 minimum

[prisma needle]

Any suggestions?

Yeah, that's the combination I've been using for everything so far, but I feel like it's taken me as far as it can until I can raise level cap which is going to be a long time 😂 I have the copies ready for my 4th and 5th A, but need a total of 3 L+ fodder to ascend them... and then my next closest to being A are things I have 6 copies of. If it's not GB it will be quicker because the fodder is there waiting...

It's so annoying, all my soulstones and normal summons throw fodder at me from every faction except GB 😂

[idle oriole]

Oden
-Rowan
Daimon
-Brutus
Lyca

This might only work with 220 daimon but could try I guess

[prisma needle]

Will give it a go 🙂

@idle oriole worked with Fera instead of Oden, thank you!!

[idle oriole]

[idle oriole]

Probably just gonna merc . 3 daimon ults gets them like 30% health and then tree heals everyone

[safe hazel]

oden
daimon
ezizh
rowan
PoP

[idle oriole]

will try ty 🥲

[idle oriole]

artifacts for pop and oden? got rly close swapping daimon nd rowan so hoping switching arti's will get me there lol

[safe hazel]

oden: eye/call PoP should be call

possibly chalice for PoP for this round

cuz rowan gives him energy and chalice will help him survive

[idle oriole]

thx will try it now

[tiny imp]

I’m just using throw away heroes cuz all the ones are alr used

[zinc island]

Not throw away heroes💀💀

[tiny imp]

?

[idle oriole]

hm I got it down to tree and 1 other a few times in the beginning but ever since i havent been able to kill 2 of them cos tree out-heals daimon dps

[magic oriole]

lmao literally uses former and current meta heroes and labels them as throwaway

[safe hazel]

should work maybe replace tasi for talene or smth

thoran and kren are meta units wouldn't call them throwaways

[magic oriole]

the proper heroes to use with thoran are kelthur, lorsan, nara, ezizh, pippa, flora, talene, athalia, lyca, eironn, skriath, raine, and sometimes hodgkin. that pretty much summarizes almost all thoran cheese variations, most common being thoran kelthur lorsan

you want heroes that do not debuff enemy attack, haste or crit, and do not buff ally defense or crit block chance

[magic oriole]

maybe use nara to pull whichever hero is killing izold. It would be easier if we could see all your remaining heroes tho

[tiny imp]

Thoran cheese only works against stronger enemies

[magic oriole]

it could work for your deficit

[tiny imp]

I’ve tried for a while

maybe just bad rng

[magic oriole]

take helmet and chestplate off of thoran

and give him eye if you have 5 star call

[tiny imp]

I have 4* imma get 5* from the event

imma keep helm on since it doesn’t giv def but chest is only E cuz i dont want a lot of defense

@magic oriole

[safe hazel]

you should probably cheese a harder round

[raven egret]

Help here? AFK helper doesn’t have many teams I can do

[magic oriole]

this is also true

[magic oriole]

yeah i think in this case it would be best to give thoran a good chest, put barricade on him and focus on izold surviving

[magic oriole]

try gb team (daimon grez oden fera silas)

[raven egret]

I did. Gets wrecked

[magic oriole]

who dies first?

[raven egret]

Nvm. Did some readjustment to the formation and I wiped it easily

Thanks though! I was also using thoran not Silas

[magic oriole]

as in thoran worked better than silas?
for nara pulling (or athalia) that tends to be the case, but everywhere else silas is superior

[raven egret]

No actually thoran wasn’t pulling his weight at all. Had to stop him put in Silas and move around some gear to put ON Silas

[magic oriole]

yeah silas with decent investment is very tanky for some reason. however i'm surprised he outperformed thoran in this case. I wouldve said to use brutus otherwise

[raven egret]

It was odd. Maybe it was rng help but my whole team stayed alive so my guess is he healed up a lot

[quaint flint]

I need a decent team comp with what I have atm and I have read pins

[lost kestrel]

Is she good? Feel like i waste elites for her.

[woeful haven]

I did beat all camps but this one with this team.. Any advise how to deal with that?

[hollow palm]

M Ezizh is an easy kill for enemy Athalia, did you try Rowan tanking her?

[woeful haven]

Ye I did

But nvm.. Used Lucretia...

[pale kettle]

Just for the story thing (I can level people right now)

[keen rain]

Any suggestion lineup? Stuck on campaign at 69% power

[lime barn]

Put twins on crystal

[wary yew]

any tips for 100b soren? I got wrizz 100b when scarlet trial released, but am still struggling with soren. I am at resonating crystal lvl 450 and have gotten up to 81b

[coral pier]

How many attempts have you done?

Does your Thoran have proper gear? Helps avoid dodges.

T0 helm and elite+ body?

[wise schooner]

What should my team be to push through campaign right now
I also can make a mirael to legend plus as a secondary carry if needed

[coral pier]

If you have them, use them. Is Thoran getting ult off consistently?

What artifacts?

[coral pier]

What guides are you following to have those heroes?

5*?

[wise schooner]

Just got an extra copy of shemiera from elite stones so I figured I’d take her to legend plus and level her up instead of leveling legend +
Fodder and I got Eizizh randomly from a 10 pull

[coral pier]

Please read the pinned messages in #classic-questions Your wishlist needs some work.

So what you could do is take the call away from Thoran and move it to someone else and give Thoran Eye or Blade.

[coral pier]

Also you are supposed to make legend+ fodder even when you have the copies to take a ascended hero to legend+.

Ideally you want to delay ascended hero ascensions until lvl 160

[wise schooner]

So after changing the wishlist, is there nothing more I can do besides waiting for copies of the other heroes?

[coral pier]

Use Daimon, he is pretty cracked. I guess with what you have you will have to use something like Shemira-Thoran-Daimon-Rowan-Arden as an example

Because they give crit, and 5* eye even gives crit amp. 5* call is good because you can put it on heroes other than thoran and the 5* effect allows other heroes to feed energy to thoran anyways.

Do you have a single fight where antandra dies?

Well at least it is possible on paper to kill everyone then, welcome to thoran cheese. I have spent 4 hours on "low rng" Thoran cheese stage before.

Did you try same comp with another hero instead of Talene?

What if someone else than pippa?

Found any additional alternative afk helper comps?

Do you think r3 could work? Basically I think your current comp could possibly work with great rng but exploring all the discovered options can lower the time required. Also check the in game replays too.

Well there you go

Nice

[keen rain]

Finally got a daimon after how long. What's a good lineup/deck for him(you may include some heroes that i dont own, yet to unlock)

[fiery wing]

put t0 factioned helm

[fiery wing]

more daimon copies

i dont think daimon is strong at E at your stage

[keen rain]

would e+ work or do i have to have 4 copies

[fiery wing]

what chapter are u

[keen rain]

11

[fiery wing]

hmm e might work but M before hitting chapter 13 is huge

[keen rain]

ok, thanks

[keen bramble]

Please help I have no clue what to do

[pale kettle]

dont make random Ls firstly

do u hv a nara or a ferael

[keen bramble]

Nope also Ls?

[idle oriole]

Legendary heroes

[pale kettle]

do u hv an arden?

[keen bramble]

Nope

[pale kettle]

daimon

lucius
rowan
grezhul
morrow

pray that morrow freezes ferael, i dont use him so idk

[keen bramble]

Nah didn't work, do I just need to wait for some team upgrades?

[pale kettle]

no... i got to ch26 with like rc180 so im pretty sure i cleared the before stages with a lower rc

it wouldve been easier if u had a nara or ferael

morrows spider silk is rng, u hv to pray it hits ferael

[idle oriole]

Can’t live past 10 seconds

[near raft]

why is your Raku +30, and on the other pic, +20

[idle oriole]

Old screenshot I guess

[near raft]

Yuup

[woeful haven]

@fiery wing dunno how you did beat this with this comp. I have no chance here

[fiery wing]

the thing is cheesing kaz is hard

it took 8 hours

[woeful haven]

Ou.. So hard rng

[fiery wing]

when cheesing kaz expect will be a hard one cause she can dodge thoran's ult

[royal stag]

Do u have 5* call ?

[woeful haven]

I have

i left mobile in next room on auto fight, let see in few hours 😄 i do not trust it at all but

[raven egret]

Tips? I can’t get those two Brutus

[pale kettle]

ferael usually fears tasi, but havent been able to kill more than nemora and kaz atm

[raven egret]

Drop Rowan put Lyca. The haste and immediate emery boost should help

Nemora and Ulnus fights are so hard because of the healing. Then tasi just makes it even harder. You won’t outlast that team so fast damage up front is the way to go

[pale kettle]

oki ill try retry spamming it, thx

[raven egret]

You could also drop oden and put Rowan there. Is Rowan +30? @pale kettle

[pale kettle]

yep, hes +30

[raven egret]

Yeah then spam retry will be the way to go. Lyca hopefully should help

[pale kettle]

oki doki, ty, ill retry spam

[finite lantern]

Who should I ascend next?

[royal stag]

Hodgkin

[idle oriole]

[hidden tiger]

Any thoughts on where to go from here? I’m currently at ch15-27

[tight juniper]

Have you read the beginner's guide pinned in #classic-questions ? It'll help you with your Shemira...

[quartz bison]

try Daimon Thoran Oden Rowan Raku

[hidden tiger]

Which guide?

[tight juniper]

Scroll down #classic-questions message

[quartz bison]

you find it in pinned messages

[hidden tiger]

I meant which one in particular

[tight juniper]

First one

[hidden tiger]

It doesn’t say anything about Shemira in that one

[tight juniper]

Because Shemira is trash

[kind tartan]

Help me build a team

[hidden tiger]

Imagine helping in the lineup help channel

[kind tartan]

:(

[hidden tiger]

No point posting, everyone just says “lol go read that guide”

[safe hazel]

if you post stage and box ppl will help but everything is explained in the beginner guide

if you are that early all you have to do is powerlevel wu kong to fly through stages and then convert into mirael/daimon carry

[hidden tiger]

I literally posted my box, and asked for some advice where to take my team, and the chapter/stage I’m at

And got the response “lol trash carry go read guide”

[cunning warren]

yes because reading the guide helps you

there’s no point explaining what to do if the guide does it better

[safe hazel]

the guide explains everything and literally explains everything to the fullest detail

you can't go wrong early game if you read the guide so that's the best source

[hidden tiger]

I’ve read the guide, I have the information open on my phone. It doesn’t mean it’s going to be perfect? What if you don’t get 4 copies of Daimon? Should You just make 0 progress? What alternative carries are available? Etc

[safe hazel]

mirael

it literally says on the guide

[hidden tiger]

I was using her until about ch13, and then she was just doing nothing

[safe hazel]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/913265653652258876/933963307663122482/Guide-211.png

@hidden tiger it's better to say smth like 'I have read the guide can someone explain please'

but post your box if you're stuck with mirael carry

[distant sierra]

What i need to do

[hidden tiger]

I have read the guide, can someone please explain why Mirael is not carrying anymore? :)

[hidden tiger]

@safe hazel I posted my box already

[safe hazel]

use mirael carry

those heroes are out of date early carries

[cunning warren]

don’t use shemira, she isn’t good. brutus is better than lucius and use daimon if you have it

[safe hazel]

you maxed out PoT's etc?

[hidden tiger]

I cannot finish my current one, as I get smoked.

[safe hazel]

merc a lucrieta

[hidden tiger]

I have already

And there’s a level where she just gets 1 shot, before she can do anything.