#lineup-help
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Can I just drift nemora to the side💀
yes update your wishlist if you haven't as well
I set my list up already-
how'd you get nemora then?
k that makes sense
I really wanted Pippa but whtevs.
just follow that beginner guide like it's the bible and you should be good
LMAO alr.
The way I set my wishlist is a little off from the guide
thali isn't that good
nara works at E and izold fell off
yh tasi is fine she is 6th prio for wilders I'd make sure you get eirron at E tho
LBs it looks like you haven't changed anything
only pull 10x
I don’t hate tasi it’s just idk how to use her like that😭
Abt to.
nah tasi is good for her banish ability and her ult
I’m really finna use these codes💀
are the op codes still up?
I believe so-
can anyone help? i'm stuck here, anyone i put on the front lines dies too fast and belinda cant nuke fast enough before isabella/mirael nuke me
lyca is legendary bc at the end of ch13 i get my last copy (nemora was a mistake tho lol)
I may be able to help.
———-Lucius
Daimon
————Rosaline
Lyca
? Silas/Belinda/Tasi/whoever that eagle guy is😭
Try that^^and try out those 5th units i gave lol.
Lucius and Rosa front line, put Rosa on Daimon though. So she can run to him and supply. Know that grez doesn’t do good damage it’s smart-
daimon died immediately
Wanna save merc
lyca
>brutus
rowan
>thoran
daimon
Did you place him up front😭
Or do you just not work on him at all😭
I think it’s mostly the 2nd one
no luck rip
Anyone think they could help😭
do u have nara and ferael?
rip, u could try brutus instead of mishka, and if silas isnt doing much maybe put lyca in
Hey, ummm am I wrong recalling that single artifact allows Lyca to INSTA push enemies to the back when used with Kren? :/ Or how to setup that she instantly pushes everyone back?
I have my Ainz comp with Albedo, Arthur, Rowan and Rosa.
Any tips on a secondary one? I'm struggling to get one to work well especially for the arena
Help?
daimon
>hogan
silas
>thoran
tasi
Nope-
I can show my whole box💀💀 pretty sure it won’t work anyway-
try
tasi
>thoran
silas
>brutus
daimon
brutus wants level 141 to function decently iirc
any suggestions? the heroes i have on this acc are way different compared to my other. also have grezhul and lorsan

Stuck on 8-12, here's my heroes
I have just enough dust to get a hero up to 101, just not sure who to go with
You definitely want to be using Hogan Daimon and Arden, stop leveling Kelthur Safiya Belinda and Flora, they will do nothing for you
how tf do I counter isabella w/out nara
Who to merc for this stage
And where to put them
I dont have eironn
at least not on crystall
Mehira and baden are slapping her
Yeah I dont have skriath either
yea
Still gets killed just not by mehira
ehem check username
ooh I almost got it
lost 1v1 to numisu after swapping raku for gorvo
Ah nice I got it
crazy how easy stage 60 was compared to this
@gray shoal with your deficit i dont see luc struggling much, try just giving her Divinity and try with like
grez lyca luc raine lorsan or something like that (if powercap lets you)
https://afkhelper.nax.is/kings_tower.php?floor=595
or just try stuff from here 
How to counter this lineup?mine is on the top
thank you so i only needed to change the artifact
Can someone help make a campaign team
keep others at 140 and bump daimon to 180
Any ideas? None of mine have gotten very far on this one
Tasi cc and Lucius shield is quite a problem, can’t break through
fereal (no weap)
thoran
rowan/eirron
brutus
daimon
What line up do you guys think i use on abex? Havent played abex before.
ae is using your best team comp then later on putting your cele heroes
What do you think is my best team comp? Daimon, oden, prince, then?
maybe silas or tasi

Still getting destroyed and now it’s worse
Get rid of awtalene. Get arden in. Daimon mid or top back
Did both top back worked best but still getting destroyed
Probs just gonna wait for next merc and clear cuz this is hella annoying
do u have nara
No I have athalia tho
m i see, I beat that stage with,
oden
-Thoran
Nara
-Brutus
Daimon
My daimon was 180 tho so idk
I only got e Brutus and no Nara
yea my bad i meant u can use athalia instead of nara, maybe itll work out. Brutus doesnt need high ascension to work
Yeah I’m getting close but still dying a lot ima keep retrying
Ima switch call for the shield one
Yep it worked thank youuu

Progression at an all time low 
Any team comp i can make with this
Depends on the stage. For now probably mirael, daimon, oden,thoran, brutus is fine. Can always add in lyca and Rowan when u need. Once daimon in M take out mirael
I can get mythic oden rn i have 4 but idk
No wait for daimon
Like this @idle oriole ?
Swap Rowan and mirael. Arden can also be good in place of one of the tanks
anyone have recommendations on how to beat this? Isabella keeps destroying me.
You got Nara at least?
You can try Brutus Lyca Daimon Nemora and Nara. Nemora charms Ferael.
Daimon
> Brutus
Nemora
> Lyca
Nara
doesn’t really work, i don’t think nemora got the charm off and nara gets 1 shotted kinda
Well, who does Tasi banish?
niru
Weird. So Nara doesn't pull Isabella?
Help please, I’m just starting
Check the beginner's guide in #classic-questions pins for help on team composition. Level Wu Kong to 100.
yea nara pulls isabella but nothing really happens after that
oh wait i got it, just took a lot of rng lol
Nara should be stunning her for a while. Unless Niru kills her.
thanks a ton
niru did one shot her but i had to put daimon on that side too to finish isabella off quickly, then it was easy after that
Well, grats.
this is a temporary team; im working on a new one but for now how would i organize this
estrilda, brutus, belinda, rowan, rosa
Hey guys, I need help to pass this level, I tried like 100 times now
try rowan, talene, daimon, eironn, mirael
Its worst, no one has the time to cast
mh ok, talene eironn rowan mirael daimon also could work
Any help, it has been days, and like 40 lvls of hero upgrades
Tasi and coffin dude continuously freezes / traps damon
Ainz
morrow
>thoran
silas
>brutus
daimon
pretty sure i've already told you this but stop making L/M heroes just saying just in case I haven't
swap daimon and oden then oden for PoP
can anyone suggest me an early team?
wu kong until level 100
and set your wishlist to one on pins if you haven't already
yh avoid making L/L+ heroes though for A tier heroes you want them to be e+ for now and level fodder to 160 L+
you should move daimon backline though instead of ferael/oden and put a tank to replace one of them
oki thank you
swap daimon and brutus then swap nara for ferael/lyca
will try it out ty
I'm new to the game and I got this. I would appreciate if someone helped me with my line up
read the pinned guides in #classic-questions
getting a bit closer but still not much. Is it worth upgrading odens sig?
who is oden tp'ing?
thane
get rid of him and replace with cc
doubt oden sig will make a difference unless he is dealing dmg/has survivability
alr will do thx
I'm confused cause idk what I should be looking for
if u check the pins in the top right in #classic-questions , scroll down a bit you'll see beginner guides
I found it, thank you bro
Is fane good?
Idk if he's gud for early game
i beat it thx 
np just try and understand why it worked as well if you can and hopefully you will do this by yourself easily
untested but defo wont be top 6 GB
yea 🥲 🤞
you'll get it soon tbh I'm pretty sure ch 30 is doable with daimon at lvl 240 as well so keep pushing you got this 

Ch32 is when I stop seeing RC240 clears with Daimon comp being posted on AFK Helper
oh ok only RC240 clears i've seen on afkhelper are whales with 309e60 luc flexing 
Same
Lost 
ok ill give it ago have tried those heroes but not on those positions yet I don't thonk
ty 3 attempts it took
Idk know if my line up is bad. Haven’t been able to pass this.
anyone cleared 39-56 r2 recently, how do you thoran cheese this? any tips? kelthur/flora enemy is tough
what’s the next GB hero i should focus on?
Any changes you guys can think of? Ive tried around 600 times and raku can make in 1v1 with warek but it never works
Please help I’ve been stuck so long
Okay so I'm pretty new to the game but i don't want to use the wrong heroes, who do i use
Help
I'm bashing my head against a wall trying to get Thoran cheese to work for this stage. Can someone please tell me what to do so I can save my sanity 😫
Hi, Lucius shields his teammates then Thane ults which destroys Daimons shield... if I don't hook Ferael no one survives and Ferael isn't fearing the enemy Ferael
Put talene front line instead of daimon
Use oden
He doesn’t even displace lmao
Just poof
That shouldn’t happen. Get rid of eirron if needed
I really only use hook girl if I need to stop a support
I would use Rowan instead tbh. Or silas
And don’t put archer at the front At your level
That’s the thing tho, it’s still happening regardless of where I put him :(
Ah shit… do your best to keep him alive. Make the dumbest formations to win
I’ll try 😭 it’s the longest lasting one atm
Ahha make sure you have a “win condition”, aka carry
Been stuck here for a little bit and don’t know how to progress. I’ve just been upgrading the characters but still not making a difference. Any tips would be appreciated
I see 2 perfect frontlines, Lucius and horse lady
I’ll give it a shot
But still use daimon
omg ur actually insane for your level, i would recommend trying to pull the temple girl in tho

Can’t get past this stage.
gm anyone can advice me what to do here im 37-20 i try same setup from AFK HELPER my lvl is 346 same gear as in the pic but it doesent work at all
Does Thoran ult ?
i just passed that lol, let me see artifacts
thoran i used EYE like in picture , he dont get to ult should i use duras call on thoran instead? @fiery wing what formation u used vs this group? maybe im more lucky @royal stag no he doesent get to not with eye not with call
same formation but kelthur on call
and it worked with kelthur on call ? and thoran eye?
yes
thanks wil ltry i see now that with cal on kelthur and thoran with eye he ults so i guess its just a RNG matter now thanks 🙂 apreciate it
just passed it also didnt think that 1 artifact would matter so much tbh
when doing thoran cheese with kelthur, kelthur must always on call
welp sometimes i learn new stuff 🙂
dw 20 is ez rng
5* stars call so thoran can have all the energy when his team die
@fiery wing u used same lineup for 37-24 fight2 ?
i'm actually pinging @worldly apex cause of that 
i tryed that but doesnet work so ok so i tryed thoran lorsan pippa awakened talene nad ezih and succeded 3rd try
@fiery wing
Dont ask for positions
same position? as 20?
Idk
Just checked afk.helper
yeah didnt work for me maybe cuse im underlvled 🙂 im still 146 🙂 and on afk helper they are 160+ but on 37 24 i tryed thoran lorsan pipa awaken talene nad ezih and worked like a breaze
this aint working for me
look at artifacts put hammer on awakened talene and cal on thoran
yea did same
i done it 3rd try just use autobatle feature
or maybe ur to low lvl?
i'm 347
ou im 346 🙂 then we in same range still both of us are underlvled compared to afk helper 🙂 im 37-28 curently and on afk helper for that stage is lvl 377 lowest 🙂
@worldly apex help with this stage pls what should i put front for it 2 work better i dont have zolrath
If I used zol swap them for a different hypo
I don't remember my clear tho
@tough birch
37-24
position 3 empty
Wrong person @fiery wing
Np
i pinged lilith staff 
🤣
hmmm i followed u but cant check ur clear
1 2 4 5?
yea should be
aight gonna try it
as for this, zol isnt needed
he's just there for double hypo bonus
so use any other lvl 1 hypo
PLEASE HELP
this lineup is SUPER close to beating. I need to lower Talene's health by like 2% and she dies but I'm too slow
if u getting that close then retrying a few times could probably work, however u could try, switching rowan and mirael or switching daimon and lucretia
for who
Is there a way to fit Desira instead of Oden in that AGB?
If not Kren Hodge Pop Pippa Tasi should be able to do something
Hopefully Pippa will teleport Antandra before Skreg reaches Kren, Kren will punch Tidus back, but Skreg is always a problem since he can't be knocked back
Pls help me
Hopefully this helps
Any suggestions
Do u remember your clear for 24-57? 😂🥲
I think it was
Nara
Thoran
Daimon
Brutus
Oden
Tysm I’ll try it
Struggling 🥲
swap daimon and oden and thoran and brutus
around this time is when macro + game knowledge makes a huge difference in your progression
yeaa 🥲
i think i tried that already, trying it again rn. I just feel like every comp gets rolled in 10 seconds 💀
I don’t have a screenshot for that one 🥲. U can check afk.helper tho, could be helpful
PoP
>lyca
ferael
>brutus
daimon
I kinda just beat it out of nowhere with ferael instead of thoran. Rng is weird
gj! didn't want to recommend ferael cuz didn't know how viable he was pre level 181
Probably Oscar
Also read the pinned guides in #classic-questions if u haven’t already
If u still on it
read the guide I sent in #classic-questions
Oh damn u just got to 25 nice
Nicee
Ty :3
any reccs?
i need help with chapter 45-4, 4th fight. thoran cheese ain't doing the job D:
try #classic-questions you'll probably get a quicker response
u can try swapping nemora with nara and tasi with ferael. Could also switch daimon and brutus positions
alrigfht
ulmus still destroys me when he ults lol
It worked, cheers!
Someone pls help
? Merc a 309 ainz with warden or book
😵💫
Ill try it
You could also replace pop and have rowan back middle instead with ferael on the side where pop was
Or replace pop with oden
Not: thoran isnt gonna do shit till si30, brutus lyca frontline is wayy better
So should i get thoran to si30?
This is getting the closest since daimon gets his ult twice sometimes but still getting rolled
Nah you wont need it till like ch33 tbh lol
Keep retrying tbh, and dont forget your gear and artifacts
Anyone mind helpin
Wait guys I just wanna ask, what does "309" mean???
30 sig item, 9 furniture
Ohh, tyty
How can Mortas +20 fit here?
Remove rowan and place mortas
Help?
Wdym
help pls
this is literally impossible
29-60 - I pushed 40 or 50 levels today just off of the ezizh carry
I don't have merc but I'd like to try to beat it while I have ezizh
Replacing shemira with brutus sometimes helps due to athalia
thanks for any help 🙏
Any suggestions?
Anyway to pass this hellhole
I don't have SI30 Khazard so this is kinda hard for me now 😭
any general suggestions?
i switch brutus up with talene and lyca a bit but the rest i have on perma
woah
we gonna get some event to get a free awkened Ezih copy like we had with talene?
Should change my team
And with what
Cuz i can't level up some of my heroes because they aren't ascended
Any suggestions?
read the pinned beginner guides in the #classic-questions channel
thank
Any help?
No luck pulling Oden?
Which is the best team possible with my heroes
read the pinned beginner guides in #classic-questions
athalia the fawkes and ezizh the tasi i think shld do the trick
did u read pins in #classic-questions thats a lot of 4skill L/L+
Not working
@minor sparrow , garrison ainz , he will help you a lot
u can swap ezizh and athalia maybe, cant remember if tasi can dodge athalia at the start
Ok
Ainz doesnt help without Albedo
the deficit is still small
@frozen sundial , I can offer a combo without thoran
Depends if I have your heroes available. Tell me
Any reccs?
Yeah, I don't have Izold and Athalia
athalia not so important
yes, after the nerf, thoran cheese does not work well 🙂
What nerf?
they nerfed stages around 38-39
People have cleared it after this "nerf" with the same formation. Anywy
Anyone past this stage? Thoran is not even close to getting enough energy
Still stuck
Now look at my screenshot @royal stag
alna graveborn ?
put Rowan in the middle, but I doubt thoran is useful to you there
Ur Thoran has a different artifact
Who even told you ascended Thoran at your stages is a good idea to invest in?
yea idk lol
i have 7 oden and ferael just waitiing for food
i mean copies i have food*
never got ainz cos i heard he needed albedo to work well so got pop instead
ohh i see, i'll garrison him next then
Next? What are you garrisoning?
1 more pop
i have no idea what you could do there. Put your Raku into the crystal for levels. More than that, your Prince is being pulled by Eironn, which makes him useless, so change the positions
yes, ainz needs albedo, in case of big deficit ... now he will work and during that time you will take albedo
yea the slot opens in like 5 hours i'll put him in then, ty tho
Do new Ezizh on top, Prince bottom, Rowan mid
Can try Brutus on top instead of Ezizh or Awakened Talene
Other than that idk
thx, will try it
Also could try Oden at the bottom, Rowan mid and Ezizh/Brutus/Awk Talene. Oden with duras eye/Windbinder/Warden of the Arcane
You have brutus?
I got it w
Silas
Brutus
Damon
Thoran
Morrow
@rugged hull try
Rowan
Brutus
Damon
Thoran
Oden
hello everyone, need help with 35-16
here are my heroes
current team comps that I use:
- Alna GB
- Thoran Cheese (Rowan is usually needed)
- Kren Comp
- Raku Comp
stuck for 3 days now. haha
thaanks in adv :)
Pls help me
i need some help
good early to mid game lineup?
Read the pinned beginner guides in #classic-questions
thanks
Nope nothing is working
Rowan, Brutus, Daimon, Silas, Ezizh
In what formation?
1, 2, 3, 4, 5
🤔 idk what to do im kinda stuck here
Like just put it in
Yes
Not working rowan just gets insenerated
Try this
wrong chat
Which one ?
Ty
It worked
🥳
Rip
Do you remember how u beat this
from the picture it was
daimon
brutus
nara
thoran
lyca
can someone help me please ?
my team dies instantly
I tried with astar and scarlet too
You dont have a good carry
Still you are only 20 lvls under
Do you have a brutus you could put in the front
lvl 180 brutus mythic +
Yeah use him instead of rowan
ok
Its a different stage tho
Need help
Yeah my fault I thought you were trying to beat the same stage I’ll recommend something now
Give this a go
Lyca
Brutus
Daimon
Thoran
Nara
Post your hero box as well
Nice box, u tried afk.helper?
Yea the 2 applicable posts have A feraels rip
raku
lyca
pippa
saurus
tasi
thats how i beat it
lyca
brutus
silias
daimon
oden
see if that helps or gets close if so just retry it a lot
ok
No use the trial dude?
Rip no work
Ideas?
ferael instead of arden (nvm it's a challenge i forgot)
probably merc that one I don't think you can beat it with available units
I have an elite version of him, but he is mostly there so ezizh doesnt slap my mishka
you can use ferael for your challenge?
no merc 😭
anyone can be used at elite + and under for tech picks, also im including legendary awakened
wait mercs aren't allowed 
I used mine
oh ok I was about to say you were gonna be stuck for a very long time
I need to beat this before ezizh disappears cus hypo tower :/
try arden in front of ezizh with call
is arden dodge good enough to root I forgot how arden works tbh 
well for that brutus pos 4 is needed most likely
and you need cc for raku to proc his +30 but I can't really think of any cheap options except for mehira and ferael
and mehira won't even work here
I mean arden mishka raku and ezizh can all proc it
mishka survives long enough?
yea she can ult once
does she not get insta destroyed by ezizh
try
raku
>mishka
brutus
>gorvo
ezizh
possibly swap mishka and gorvo but honestly I think that stage will be a merc one
actually got prettty close 👀
that seems like the best from what you have, for artis i'd go
raku eye mishka chalice brutus barricade gorvo call ezizh you can't choose
if athalia just destroys your team before mishka can ult then call on mishka
Yeah gorvo gets one tapped
switching lyca and gorvo almost works but cant cc athalia for raku
arden roots athalia?
you told me not to use him
yh ik just wondering if that arden would be missing piece of the puzzle
since I can't actually see the fight happening
or try ezizh pos 4 to banish athalia
tried to put ezizh front and arden behind but arden dies of emotional dmg apparently
heard it works for floras with zol 3F but maybe could work here?
na athalia too spdy
i'm not sure perhaps this formation but with arden instead of ezizh and lyca instead of gorvo? @novel star
Which to use for my team I just got daimon
I was using eironn silas wu the wolf guy and rowan
only level three skill heroes
Lvl them and put my actual characters in the temple thing?
yeah
Should I retire mine then for now to lvl the 3 skill
yes
Which should I lvl up
I beat it
I heard mireal and the tank guy r good
mireal or saveas for you highest investment, arden is best for long term
GJ! That’s good to know that mishka is viable pre multis without 9F as well
Im pretty close to 9f i cant wait
Do you think the 3F enabled her or the A for extra stats?
shes full myth furn 7/9 hers, 43 engraved, full t1 gear and t2 wep
also 2 stars, pretty beefy
E43? You plan on rushing e60?
Yeah since shes more important rn then grez
The challenge is gonna be near impossible tho during multis does it stop at some point?
Which 5 to put in crystal
- Wrong channel
- I already answered

Ya didn't see the second part ty
And why is lineup channel the wrong place to ask for 5 characters for Mt lineup
You asked for what 5 heroes to put in your crystal 
Ya those r the 5 I'm gonna use in my lineup right or should I be using the 3 skill heroes I lvld up
Mixture
Swap daimon and rowan then Silas for ezizh
HELP
I need help here
it should definitely be beatable, just move luc around to different locations. also dual divinity is most likely the best artifact here if u didn't already have it equipped
dual divinity for whom?
lucretia
I need help here
artifacts don't particularly matter for the rest of the heroes, although technically it would probably be best to equip call to all 4 of them
the girl beside talene has an insane unbreakable shield. I can take out their health with ease but
that is a boy
Once the shield comes out after 10 secs into the battle, I'm dead bru
just merc someone from a friend
my bad 😂
except I'm saving to exchange for baby yaga
not garrison, merc
it worked. thnx man
np, dd is generally best option on luc when she's actually invading, which is most of the time when 5 pull isn't being used
o ya. nobody wants to merc anything to me though 😭
just request from a bunch of different ppl, most people won't decline a merc when they see it its just free friendship points for them.
who do I merc
that's best for this situation
ainz is best probably, but pretty much any highly invested carry is fine, kren, luc, grez, daimon, raku, oden, eironn.
so if I do that, I can win this?
yes
whats my lineup gonna be
doesn't matter. just stick the merc in and anything else
if u get a good merc u seriously don't need to put any other units in
I need serious help before AE enroll ends
No. Sorry😔
Ideas? Otherwise prob merc an Izold
need help with lineup here, i cant get pass gold 1
Pain
Hey guys, current team is all the red ATM. I am currently working on getting Brutus and Scarlett to ascended, then probably going to replace Rayne and Ferael for those two, however I have an Alna at Elite+ I'm thinking of working on instead of Scarlett. Anyone got any ideas? Perhaps Alna over Brutus instead of Scarlett? Idk.
Just got farael and isabella is it worth switching them with anyone or swapping anyone else
read the pinned beginner guides in #classic-questions , daimon oden ferael brutus alna/rowan should be fine but its always gonna be stage dependent
ferael can be useful for u but not isabella
Recommend a good lineup
I'm in ch6. And I play the game for 4 day
And if u have any advice
You have Lucius and Rigby
Monkey + rosaline + Hogan + mirael + Angelo will work?
New ezizh is probably better than Angelo
Any ideas?
Damon
Thoran
Silas
Brutus
Eziz
If it doesnt work, switc damon and silas, etc....
Thanks it worked
Hello everyone, any tip for this stage?
Ideas?
U tried afk.helper ?
whut that
afk helper is a website with clears for all modes
what SI is daimon and ainz?
I need help with a double battle
i can level all in a lineup to around 70, currently in chapter 6, need help figuring out who to use
Read pinned guides in #classic-questions
thank you
Can someone help me
Maybe switching oden and daimon if u haven’t tried that already?
Rowan instead of thoran?
Also is thoran off ur wishlist? he doesn’t need that many stars at least rn.
I have but its not working either
I don’t have an ss for that stage, but what’s the main thing that’s like killing u
Bruh i got it now i put daimon in front
Lmao nice
Progress paused .-.
try
oden
-daimon
rowan
-brutus
ezizh or ferael if u hve him
do u hve rowan?
E+
rip idk if it'll work but u can try
daimon
-rowan
brutus
-thoran
oden
^ this could work maybe try
ezizh
>daimon
brutus
>rowan
lyca
as well
Are u a god

1st one didnt work but asta's did
I felt your pain as well dw
Can i get some help please i cant figure out the solution
@safe hazel in need of your advice again
try
oden
>lyca
PoP
>brutus
rowan
however my main question is if oden is actually providing dmg/cc?
because the entry portal might actually be a downside but if he gets an ult or two off it may negate that downside
go on afkhelper and check hybridxy's clears
Yeah but not nearly enough to carry alone
wait I meant daimon instead of rowan 
He doesnt even ult once
i'm an idiot LOL
Yeah i was like uhh okay?
how'd I type rowan instead of daimon I need to get more sleep
Gets cleared pretty quickly because of thane being a dusty mf
Ill give it some more tries
try swap oden and daimon positions as well
This did the job
Now to close this chapter off with an absolute bumfuck 😩
try
PoP
>daimon
ezizh
>brutus
lyca
Yes he is off
How did u beat lvl 56
Send ss
Is it a boss lvl
Yes
Add vmr3
Who is that
his account you can click winning formations of friends/guild mates
Isnt really working
what's the problem?
Daimon keeps getting stunned right after the ult to keep her alive or gets banished by tasi
does ezizh banish the tasi with lyca haste or no?
@harsh urchin I added
Yeah he does but daimon doesnt get ult fast enough
try
daimon
>lyca
ezizh
>brutus
PoP/flex
Any ideas what teams I can use for multi team stages?
Daimon is dead before the 1st ult
he has call on?
Normally for team 1 I use Ainz+some random heroes but unsure for the others
what is killing him there
Yeah
@harsh urchin it isnt working for me
try copy all his artis as well
He gets knocked down by lucius and raine does all the damage
who does thane target there?
Brutus
try daimon pos 5
Isnt working either daimon doesnt get to ult chain because hes got the whole team on him immediately after the shield
@rugged hull artis means artifact
@harsh urchin im not sure ask @idle oriole
i beat it with
oden
-rowan
daimon
-brutus
ferael
ik my rowan has sig but i think he died before he ulted anyways.
what sig was your rowan?
he doesn't need to ult to give energy to allies with SI
30, i thought he already gave energy i guess not as much mb
the energy potion does his ultimate can give more or it can stun enemies
Your rowan stays alive for way longer, mine is dead in 1 ms
yea rip, i mean u can check afkhelper too
well honestly I don't even have oden A to this point 😅
Why
so it's hard to incorporate him into your clears for me since I don't know how good he performs
Oh damn
but that's cuz I garrisoned ainz if you don't garrison ainz and play optimally i'm sure oden ascencion is worth it
swap thoran and brutus then thoran for lyca
Anyone got some setup ideas they could give me?
Most clears are with rowan M
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how many copies do u have? u could hcp tbh. hes worth it imo but just a suggestion
2
How to win please
Hes e+ thats all i have of him
I am still in ch 32 so take my advice with a grain of salt but from what I see the 4 teams you can form are a ainz team GBs luc and an amalgam of strongest heroes left for r4
for 4 teams you honestly dont have enough of the heros needed built if that guide doesnt help let me know if i can
ah rip, i probably cant help much then xd
Yeah I'll show an example of what I'd use for 3 teams
It was normally something like this aslong as ainz did 2 ults it was over, and then left me more room for other setups
team 1 could be
ainz
>arthur
athalia
>albedo
ezizh
team 2 could be
daimon
grez
rowan
>brutus
tasi
team 3 could be
luc with lvl 1 hypos or your discard heroes like numisu since you are at low deficit
team 4 could be thoran cheese
This game is quite litterally fraud
i see, try to use what asta suggested and in the mean time work towards taking albedo to 30 si and lucreatia, work towards getting farael, eirron skriath, and silias ascended. you might be stuck for a while with what you have currently. can try to follow what asta suggested but id honestly stop pushing and just try to flush out ideas for 5 teams
Yeah albedo is 26 and luc is 24, took them up before being told to save till 300 chests
no problem your account can be saved its just going to take some real dedication of sitting at a chapter and fixing it if you want to get to 5 teams
@harsh urchin I finished lvl 24-60 check my formation
Yeah the only thing that has helped me push without some required heroes since they came out is ainz
follow main 6 engraving prios as well
Yeah I'm just waiting for 1 more luc copy to take her e30 then I'll get alna up after e twins and mortas
I should say that ainz was already in the mid 50's so I was taking him till 60 but will invest in grez and luc now
do you take reds from events?
honestly once you get some cc/enablers you'll be fine
it's just that you can't really complete your teams and are heavily lacking red emblem chests
Before I asked here I put the 30+ material in the lab event but when It resets will put reds in
And yeah I was alsays taking reds from events
I'm lvl 126 with 4 +30s lol
The pain of only collecting xp every 5 days then coming back 😅
yh I was at that stage it was not very fun
Huh? Im lvl 100 in ch 24
And also still stuck
well I messed up on alt and decided to restart following guides and playing optimally (apart from ainz which I don't regret)
And thoran cheese is like this?
do it on a harder round
Any advice
but you want skriath 3F if you wanna do thoran 5 pull
Will work on getting him lol, he is only e+ iirc
Those are my main teams in 34 rn, ainz and graveborn do ok, raku gets beaten quickly though
Anything i should replace?
Well, you don't have an appropriate team for Raku? Where is the CC in that team? You can use Mehira windbinder in position 4 and Rowan +30.
thoran also works with smth like
kelthur
>thoran
lorsan
>rowan
ferael
but you want him on a r1/r2
he reflects dmg so putting him on a weaker round is bad
Oh yeah I will try that for stage 3 then
Used this for that
But luc will do fine there
i'd do thoran first then fill in your other comps after
Switched rosa for mehira and saurus for rowan, is that correct?
You can keep rosa but sometimes, raku will kill everyone in one charm. So Rowan Brutus lyca mehira and raku would work fine
Ive been playing for like 2 months i think i dont think i need to restart yet
ye you don't you're doing fine
Its just this one fucking stage thats pissing me off
I got to ch 32 in 3 and 1/3 months
you'll probably get to where I am within same timeframe as me
Stuck on 35-48 second fight. Seen people have clears Thoran cheese clears for this fight 20 crystal levels lower than me. Tried with Flora and Lyca. With flora I barely get one ult much less two. With Lyca I can sometimes get two but Thoran dies before the enemy flora even falls.
Suggestions?
I can clear this fight with ainz but then fail at finding a good clear for the rest of them.
Its such bullshit that awEzizh cant banish athalia
are u getting fairly close with any comps?
Not really
I dont think im even killing 1 of them
Idk if u have but maybe u can use this and replace Rowan with lyca?
Ah too hard

Need help with this and yes ik i have legendaries
u should get rowan +30 asap
try
daimon
-rowan
oden
-brutus
nara
Should i reset shemira and put the 220 on rowan?
not necessary tbh, just get his sig up it helps a lot
Okay
Did it ty i took out rowan tho cause it died pretty fast

How do i..
Still can't beat stage
My god youre litterally my hero
congrats 
You could suffice with this pretty well actually. Get albedo and merlin to help wjth your ainz formation then work on raku 303, then oden later at 203 (oden only gets better with more investment)
Also is that fawkes linked to someone?
Or lucius perhaps
Actually nvm, ignore that. Was thinking you could swap scroll but keeping them as dim links is good
Idk if I have enough resources for both albedo and Merlin. I already exchanged for Ainz on the 1st. Because I wasn’t playing during those events for the dimensionals. Fawkes isn’t linked to anyone. Neither is Rowan
Take your time, this is a long term and very slow paced game. Both require a lot of investment so you'll be fine focusing on only raku in the meantime. Your next focus after raku should be thoran to +30 since you'll need him to cheese some stages later
oh and merlin is #1 prio in challenger store currently so you can do get his pieces ready on the side
Yea I understand that. I just know that there’s a lot of guilds that require ch37+ and I should be there with what I have but I’ve always struggles because I take breaks due to life. If I never stopped I would’ve had every dimensional lol. Also does Thoran need 309?
Oh so I only have to worry about Albedo then essentially, that’s a lot easier to deal with. Do I keep gazing for 1 more Lucretia for engravings?
what comp can i run for ABEX?
Help
Yes, then go to alna
Okay cool. I appreciate the help
Could i get some help on this stage been stuck on it for a bit
Will this throan cheese ever work?
Like iv copied peoples lay out and set the game on auto battle and just never get the result
thoran almost never works on auto and even level deficit is need with him
Ah so my throan is to high of a lv ?
thoran cheese works more consistent at much higher of deficits is all and he alone is the more most rng hero on the game
I’m struggling those are my teams if u have a suggestion I’d love to hear it if I need to swap someone in chances are I’ll have them built
i hate thoran cheese so ive avoided it at all cost if your building lucreatia then sub her in with thorans comp. help for at this moment i cant say i have any suggestions sadly
oh then yeah put her in there and drop thoran
your at 100 deficit only use thoran at like 180-200 if you have to
any flora comp see what one luci can kill first then ainz the other
Help
Mfw I forgot I have lucretia built
well now you should make it into chap 37 easily best of luck on your push remember to always use your weakest teams to clear things first
Help me?
see if that helps any
silias
diamon
eironn
grezhul
lyca
Who can I replace warek and scarlet with?
where are you trying to place? in legend?
optimally its
twins
scarlet
worek
grez
estrillda
can always merc a good scarlet if not you can try
twins
saurus 30si
worek
grez
mortis
can always try to mercenary a good scarlet
Highest on my fl is m+
how about saurus merc?
Not rly cause my Lyca and eirron just die
And grez kinda the same
lyca is meant to die your matching the enemy haste values since the enemy has a lyca and if you have nara shes better to pull the mireal then you can drop grez and add brutus back
im trying to keep your 3 graveborn faction buff
Emotional damage
can always try to get daimon to mythic+ for the extra power creep and then even more levels after you take everything else to 160 and sometimes thats all thats needed
I wish we could reset si's
Ascension kinda confusing
dm me if youd like ill check my alt accounts and try to set you up with a saurus 30si
.-.
when your silvina gets to legendary+ and she isnt being used as one of the 5 to keep you at 160 scarifice her to daimon then he can go to level 200
Can someone recommend me a queen team comp
Queen works in a lot of comps. I mostly use her with 5 pull, lucretia, or both
She isn’t usually the carry
5 pull is eirron + skirrath(30si)
Queen is also good in a joker cc comp
That would be joker, queen, with strong cc heroes like raku, fareal, leonardo divinci, tasi, ect.
Help
help
30 si is unnecessary, you only need 3f
Swap brutus and thoran. Swap daimon and aw ezizh.
Any lineup for Celestial 325
Help
Worked
Not sure who to be using this early in the game mishka and ferael seem p useless any tips on who to use
also got tidus and elite+ mishka if that changes anything
Wukong lvl 100
can you recommend me a team with placement or should i just switch ferael or mishka with wukong
put in mirael and wukong for mishka and ferael, placements differ for each stage
my wu kinda just gets ran over super fast
lvl 100?
u should have a carry 20-40 levels above the rest of ur heroes but yea
that would be daimon then? or wu
daimons probably fine, didnt see he was at L, read the pinned guides in #classic-questions if u havent btw
Wanna clear 300 
@pale kettle
help me, one more to finish 39-8
@ebon hazel
I used Alna+GB for r5
Do you have zolly or Khazard?
both of them are weak in mine
And yeah I used AGb too
You won't win without Kren at least M
He can't really do much if he can't group enemies
Unfortunately, Alna GB was other team i finished, I have to retry my progress again
R3 @west skiff
its ok i managed without him
Iirc i used ezio chicken raku eironn queen (from 1 to 5)
Oh yeah, and don't use call on Skriath, it does nothing
@west skiff this is 39-12 but r4 is the same as your r5
Thank for the team, I pass. Have to retry a lot
Help
Try Rowan in the back middle and ferel over eziah if eziah doesn’t work.
You could even flip the position of daimon and eziah as eziah puts the person across from them in a trance so he’d trance belinda
estralda
Daimon can carry but you gotta give him some heal and a little time to ramp.
i keep dying even when i swapped
Oden
-daimon
Rowan
-brutus
Ferael
Many thanks

.
Wazzup
U can try
Oden
-Lyca
Daimon
-Brutus
Rowan
Try this
Lyka and eiron is too low lvl for me
Will try now, but i think my lyca will just get insinerated
Why?
Ohh
U want Eironn to pull enemies and Lyca for Extra haste
Who should i pull?
Put him middle back and he pulls position 1, 2 and 4
Not working
Then check afk.helper
U tried AAA or Alna+GB?
Try this
Im pretty sure u can throw in some random stuff and beat it
First time i used Thoran cheese was in chapter 37 something
lol I used cheese in ch 28
surprised no one uses cheese early
I know ur a maniac xD
I thought I was a pro deficit pusher when I done thoran cheese for the 1st time
🤣 i hate cheesing with a passion
I love thoran cheese ig I'm different 😂
U ever cheesed Flora ?
no
I think first flora in 35 I'm only in 32 rn
It takes very long to push campaign and i'm very busy rn
Shes pure pain

Help?
anything i should change?
read the pinned beginner guides in #classic-questions
thanks for the insightful answer
Why
Help
Someone who can help me with this? Died way too many times now
Help me, something is absolutely destroying my lucretia with some paralyzing stuff (those are all the heroes i have btw)
What I've seen
Ty
AE lineup?
How can I beat this stage? Been stuck on it for literal months
grez daimon ferael silas oden

