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Dam, what comps were you using ? I'm hard stuck rn
Any ideas? It’s the fallen souls trial of god. So I can’t have any important hero’s die
Can I even fix this.... blackout one is trail
i think this is better off in #classic-questions
Swap daimon and thoran
You can also use luc 5 pull and then switch back to that one as well

My time ran out and I didn’t know it would kill all my hero’s so now I’m stuck on this. I used this same layout to beat it last time and now it ain’t working
morrow and talene carried me
awakened ver or
yea
u both can add me if u wanna see how I beat each stage 137061651
thanks u read my mind was gonna ask to copy what u did lol sent
Try luc 5 pull on that
Lyca
I thought eironn went in Pos4? or at least that's what i read
https://www.reddit.com/r/afkarena/comments/r8nr68/endgame_pve_formations_visual_guides_redorb/
Try checking this for the Luc 5pull
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Oh I didn’t know that, so swap luc and errion?
Lyca, Skriath, Rowan, Eironn, Lucretia
Kk
Ah it's overall level 200 sadge, only my Daimon and Oden are lvl200 lol, thanks anyway
Nope, not even a single kill, Rowan last alive
ur lyca and skriath u put on frontline right
It doesn’t even pull in since all but GB are stunned for the first 10 seconds
Yeah ^^ but that’s the issue @pale kettle
not sure how to help since you need most of ur chars alive and im only in ch23 sorry lol
Will do thx

stop making random L's without being able to take them to L+. in particular brutus and rowan. read the guide in #classic-questions
as to answer ur other question, did you get the box from assembley of heroes? if you did, did you pop it? if you didnt, take the anra and hook the isabelle. you will struggle on later with allllll the isabella stages about to come without her trust me, i didnt have a nara and it sucked hardcore
luc and then 4 lvl 1 heros(same faction)
you need to hook the isabella
since you dont have a nara that i can see, try plopping arden instead of fane in front of isabella and hope he snares isabella
read pinned guides on #classic-questions you should get daimon to M using SILVINA as food then manually level ferael to 140
you shouldn't be getting any A tier heroes past e+ for now btw and upgrade daimon's SI to +20 as soon as possible
you can try
fane
>rowan
ferael
>daimon
talene
Already? Alright
I don’t have signature items unlocked yet but I’ll do it as soon as I can
SI unlocks when you get a hero to M
Oh so should I make daimon mythic rn
yh
daimon +20 is vital do NOT get his +30 though @hoary granite
after daimon +20 you should get rowan to M and get his +30
Alright I gotcha
and dont t3 his gear or engrave him very common mistake since you want to engrave sparingly for meta carries and use resources on higher prios first
Alrighty I have him at 16 rn
you read beginner guide right?
Yes I have
make sure you update your wl to that and don't use A tier heroes as food and you're good
daimon +20 and rowan +30 can carry you very far just make sure to have a good furn wl once you get your first A
Alrighty
Help with this? I get super close but I don’t win. Scarlet is carrying the damage here
do
oden
>mishka
rowan
>brutus
daimon
i'm 31-15 at 265 rc btw
Athalia melts daimon
do
daimon
>rowan
oden
>mishka
brutus
Closer. I’ll plY with some gear too
Have you tried replacing oden for fereal
Yea
Your friendlist is full
Help
see if this helps any it may take a few tries
rowan
daimon
nara
brutus
oden
1st try smooth like butter
Thanks broski
aye! best of luck with the grind
give it try if you havent already and if its close retry it a bunch
oden
daimon
rowan
brutus
nara
I ran it 5 times and it wasn't close at all
yeah not having rowans si hurts a lot best of luck hopefully someone else can help
Get down to thane every now and then but rly inconsistent 
Trying to make some good teams for campaign, anyone mind helping me out? Team 1 works very well so it's Team 2 and 3 I need help with
can i dm you rather than cluttering up this chat
Yeah sure
How good is zolrath?
Help
🤔
daimon
>brutus
rowan
>thoran
fane
stop making M and L heroes and look in #classic-questions for beginner guide
im making legendary plus and I have enough copies tasi and totem dude
the other 2 were a mistake ik .-.
i'd stop investing into ainz btw as well tasi shouldn't be on your wl tho
she shouldnt?
I love Tasi man ;-;
tasi is 6th prio for wilders she is still good just outclassed
if you are close to getting her to A leave her on though
just make sure you have wishlist updated to one in #classic-questions and read it, it's literally a picture guide
I have enough copies
so I should remove her
alright
Remove Nara ; put Rowan on the bottom ; put Eiron in the middle, he'll grab 4 of them
update according to this
Anakin's Group-Ascension 101
Here are some priority heroes you should ascend first if you can if you have 8/8 copies for them - You can use this to see the priority heroes that you should start out wishlisting: This is a GROUP-Priority list (Which means - not in a particular order, they have different priorities when one held against the other)
LB Priority heroes:
Rosa, Rowan, Raine, Scarlet, Estrilda | > | Morrow, Gwyn, Hendrik | > | Peggy, Cecilia | > | Lucius, Belinda, Fawkes, Eluard | > | Rest
Maulers:
Tidus, Skriath, Kren, Skreg, Numisu | > | Antandra (for late game), Granit (High deficit with +30 to help Luc) & Satrana (Purely for CR) | > | Brutus, Warek (For TR), Safiya (Powercap), Vruk | > | Rest
Wilders:
Eironn, Lyca, Raku, Mishka, Pippa | > | Gorvo, Saurus, Tasi & Nemora | > | Lorsan & Astar | > | Rest
GB:
Daimon, Grezhul, Thoran, ferael, Silas, Oden | > | Desira & Hodgkin | > | Izold (For tower) | > | Nara, Kelthur & Baden | > | Theowynn & Shemira | > | Rest
There are heroes that you would like want 1 copy of early, like Cecilia, Lorsan, Brutus, Safiya, Baden, Nara & Kelthur - so if you’re wishlisting, add these early on, but only for one copy instead of 8.
Overall you want to focus on the first group of heroes (the priority ones), before moving on to the 2nd and 3rd group, etc. - Group 1 > Group 2 > Group 3 > ...
I would not get stars on anyone (carries) until you have aleast 8/8 copies of the priority heroes (The first group of heroes) - Max 2 spots on WL for stars, after priorities
I would keep scrolling GB until you have the priority ascended (The first group of heroes, the 6 GBs) - once you have 8/8 copies of the priority GBs, you can use the cards on wilders, but keep scrolling GB for fodder
Could I get some help with this stage? I’m willing to replace units in my Crystal as needed I also have 2 free slots in my Crystal
this may work but if the enemy farael is stunning daimon to much swap your nara and farael
rowan
daimon
farael
brutus
nara
I need help
Still dying too fast unfortunately, daimon can’t even get a 2nd cast off
does he have call?
Eye, I have call on Rowan, better to give him call?
yeah try call on him see if that helps
take a ss of the dps chart at the end i might be able to suggest more if i see that
oh hes healing swap nara and rowan see if that does more for you and keep call on daimon if it gets close keep retrying
if that doesnt work take daimon to mythic+ when you get more fodder that or mercenary a higher daimon
Holy hell that did it, thanks man
noice noice
Just barely but it did
Who should i Put in RC? Got a few Slots free
nara
How tf am I even supposed to fight this
Really depends on your heroes. Sounds vague without it.

What
ainz it
Well, nothing. Just an unusual box. Well you can try to do the silver challenge but let everyone else die and make another team that has high survival for the gold challenge. If you need to, merc Alna.
is desira 203 or mortas E+ works better on ainz comp? arena wise
merlin
bedo
arthur
ainz
I’m not even trying to get silver or gold challenge I’m just trying to beat it
just lucretia cheese it
any good formations i could do perhaps?
Is this a good line up ?
Still stuck
merced a fat lucretia
then lucretia cheese it
Still have two days left til my merc get reset
u can reuse mercs in misty valley
Ik I’m saying for the weekly stuff. I have scarlet, saurus and skriath
You can return them lol
You click the char you want to return, then the screen w/ all its weps etc pop up w/ a button called return
But I just realized you can return them.
Lmao been playing for almost 2 years and still learning lmao
What should I use for a set up in pve
And please try to fit Rowan in there he a must for me
Any help with this stage? I have 3 empty crystal slots too
hook the isabella, not the angelo, isabella is the win condition on the other team
Even hooking her 50% the time Silvania 1 taps Nara before she hooks, and the other 50% I just don’t have the damage to kill Isabella
I've been running daimon carry and when I come against a silvina. I run this. So the Nara pulls a problem target from the back and Eironn pulls in 3-4 other heroes given the fact that Silv jumps on my rowan
U can try smth like this, but with daimon it's always just big rng lol
I’ll give that a shot
In my case, Eironn pull in everyone and Nara pulled the Nem, sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't
Have you got a answer yet?
Im not a God at this game I'm only chapter 14 but try move talene go mid and switching your mid back for thoran and placing him in front
I've beaten these guys yeah but I had a very different team
Oh no I beat them the team was defensive while talene handled the damage
I’ll try it
Have you seen the beginners guide in the questions channel?
Whys that?
Ohhh ok I don't really have a thorax good enough for my team
Me either I’m just using him till I get my fodders to L+
A really good early game carry is belinda but don't try get her if you don't have her because she falls off fast from what I've been told
Yea i haven’t been worrying about her I’ve been tryna get daimon and more oden
Have you been using mercs?
Not in campaigns
If you get stuck of a level due to them countering your team use them then or when it about to reset for q free level
And their really useful for kings tower, I forgot about kings tower for ages and I went through it recently I got something like 5000 gems
Mmmm I’ll try rn I need some gems and a lot more
You been doing labyrinth?
Yea
Ok mad yeah so just do peaks of time and everything in that area as much as you can and don't forget abt dura's tears
did you beat it?
I did not, was playing around with a few variations before I went for dinner and gave up
throw rowan in the back row and see if silvina attacks him if so nara the isabella and go from there
Like toss daimon up front instead?
yeah something like that silvina should attack rowan in the back row always first and that should allow you to get more consistent attempts
Ya I just don’t have the damage, can’t even drop one person
ah fair enough
maybe post your hero box too im not quite sure how to help honestly is this kings tower?
oh if you have tears in your bag just attack it wiith everything then use a tear to revive everything
I have similar heroes
wanna add me and see how I passed it?
Sure
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It isnt a boss battle, so i cant see how u passed it 😢
Halp
Thinking of switching up my team any suggestions?
if your still progressing easily no suggestions
do you have a copy of nara the graveborn or eirron the wilder?
if you have a copy of nara or eirron then try this
nara/eirron
daimon
silas
thoran
lyca
have you tried to see what other people have used for that stage of gb tower?
no?
o one got carried by izold damn
worth checking the stage info to see if you can merc something, yeah izold at 303 is quite the tower carry for gb but other than that he falls off iirc
Anyone passed theses stages without Ezhiz or PoP being 9/9 ?
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Need help. (Reposting to add second image.)
fane instead of nara also manual with raku +30 and make sure he doesn't ult unless you need to finish off an enemy
Best second team for current lab ? My first team is alna +gb
I did luc kren skriath backline and skreg and another tank FL
make sure you manual tho so that skri ults at start of battle and then you kren ult and win
luc is there to disable enemy ults
What is your skreg investment ? Mine still 0/0
do dismal aid
But i can afford to +20 rn
I am in a dismal group and the skreg was 109 or 209 iirc
My dismal group seems like only looking for low level player, because i never get accepted lol
ask in #classic-chat for a good dismal group
but I don't think skreg needs to be invested in to work
kren skri and luc are main ones you can also use dura tears as well
show box
?
If I don’t pull the Vurk, PoP dies.
where the bloody hell did all your characters go-
try do
PoP
>rowan
fane
>brutus
raku
i've never seen someone get raku +30 that early tho so I'm not sure if he even gets atk rating capped
i think u shld swap out raku for daimon since its more straightfoward and easier then nvm asta told me why
maybe but raku +30 is a beast tbh just not recommended for early players since you usually do rowan +30 into raku +30 with daimon +20 as carry into mid ch 30s
wdym
show heroes
your whole hero box
ohh i see, but if rakus being atk rating capped then daimon shld be better right?
raku is rarely atk rating capped that early his atk rating cap is 650% of his own atk rating and he can increase his atk rating by 30/50% with his skill
you can use him with LDV well at around 200 deficits from what i've seen
ahh i see, thanks for correcting me
yh some ppl are saying raku +30 > rowan+30 since raku +30 is that good
stop making random Ls
but i'd still say rowan +30 first since it's more flexible
i see, ty
Must have been a glitch 🤣
Most of them was to help me in faction towers
fix your wl and dont engrave anyone yet i'm in ch 31 with that rc
welp if u wanna shoot urself in the foot later on thats fine w/ me
L heroes are a huge waste SirClashin
I havent gotten any leg for a while
What is wl
Oh yeah I did do that
for current TR btw the meta iirc is grez ceci warek mortas and 1 other but check leaderboard
don't invest anything into shem/belinda they are horrible heroes
I know
Someone plz help me 😢
Also this, I don't think I can do anything with these ones but might as well ask
Maybe try
Oden
-Talene
Arden/Silas
-thoran
Daimon
Should I change anything
Read the pinned guides in #classic-questions
ok
Is my top 5 okay for main team
Read pinned guides in #classic-questions if u haven’t already
@elfin sinew post the stage ur stuck on here
I'm hard stuck here. I've tried moving around the team but nothing is changing any suggestions?
U can try
Oden
-lyca
Nara
-thoran
Mirael
Tried, and also changed the back row positions, and in all of them, Oden gets destroyed pretty quick, Silas sometimes managed to last until he could cast his ultimate, but died shortly after
Post some more of your hero box. Shemira Solise Lucius are rlly bad
Let me see if I have any better equipment on unused heroes to change it and try again
Post full hero box
Ok, changed equipments and put Daimon top , Silas middle and Oden under. It worked, thanks!
Nice :3
Talene still got murked hella fast tho, but Daimon tanked it long enough for the ultimates
Yea idk if talene is totally necessary since I never used her but apparently she’s helpful sometimes at least early on in the game
Pls read the guides in #classic-questions youre upgrading too many heroes to leg tier
For the stage, drop Solise and shemira for Ferael and isabella
Also drop ulmus, anoki, khasos, wukong, seirus, rigby from your rc. And put Grezhul & lyca on it for now
Send the stage
Well not anymore but a new challenge has appeared
does u has nara lol
@dreaf
Here
Help me pls
These are my heroes, I’m not sure what I should do
Any placement help?
Everything gets one shot so fast
With that setup, Rowan potions and ult can’t reach Daimon
When the battle starts, look for the circle that flashes on the ground around Rowan’s cart
That’s the potions range
your good for wanting people to see it and stuff
silias
daimon
arden
thoran
aw talene
Alr ill try that
estrilda across from daimon is usually a bad time for daimon
The root goes off right after both shermiras do their beam thing which one shots daimon and talene
If I put Lyca instead of talene would that make it work do you think
not having rowans energy potion from his si is hurting you i feel but you lack the copies of him so its not your fault and you can try lyca the haste may allow you to get a ultimate off for a shield
With lyca it just worked
maybe try nara across from one of the shemira?
oden
brutus
nara
daimon
rowan
I’m not sure what my placement should be and what units I should have
id put daimon on the crystal, hes one of the best carries early game even at elite. arden has some great CC too
if you havent read the beginner guides in #classic-questions , thats recommended
Thank you ^^
Wait, who should I remove from my team then?
One last thing, sorry ^^”
wukong starts to fall off around your level. you could use mirael until 160 then daimon afterwards. you can level mirael manually since she is one of your highest ascension. shes a good carry early on
Any suggestions for this stage?
🤔
replace shemira with pretty much anyone
is she that bad? 💀
one of the lowest performing carries, yes
just from those shown heroes, support from tasi or ferael would likely perform much better
still im getting rekt by Thane
nvm lol
do you have a nara? ah ok, you got it
Anyone know?
Who else do you have
Replace grezhul with brutus, if that doesn’t work also replace tasi with lyca
I am once again asking for some assistance
throw in lyca and 2 other hypogens with brutus and play around with it some should allow you to clear it
if you needed any of those other core heros to beat the first one switch them back and just use level 1 hypogens so lucretia gets her buffs faster
tasi
eirron
rowan
daimon
nara
eirron can be switched out for any other graveborn as well for a 3 faction buff
Think you could help me?
ill try to post your hero page so i can see what you have to work with
I can post my box.
silias
daimon
eirron
thoran
tasi
stop making so many legendaries
Yea I’ve got that before that’s just what I had after the first time someone told me that
I need #lineup-help
and also stop engraving random heroes
try
daimon
brutus
rowan
lucius?
nara/lyca/fane
Should I take shemira to mythic or wait for Damion? I’m on 13-11 indecisive cause I see a lot of people down talk her
Destroyed
I may just have to wait for them to get a little stronger
How do I beat this
Cool thanks brotha
wait for daimon shem is bad
and stop making so many legendaries read pins in #classic-questions if you haven’t
Shemira drops super hard going towards late game she is not worth te investment , daimon is much better scaling in the end game
Stuck at 16-16 any hero’s you see that might help me pass it that aren’t leveled?
Have you tried using a different formation?
I think your characters are fine
I see that you have a Golus in your team, you could take it out and use it to raise one to mythical and with the resources that they give you after using it to ascend, upload that character that you ascended or another one
Any pinned guide on the best heroes amd cards for fight of fates?
Any you’d recommend I ascend? And I am toying with lineups but just haven’t had much luck
stage info?
and it depends on if you can ascend in the first place because I don't see that you have a legendary+ character
if you get another Tidus I recommend you turn it on
they say it's useful
and also that you take some time to get gems and pause the campaign until you improve your units
No clue what the enemies are but you can try daimon lyca ferael backline and brutus thoran frontline to stall for daimon ramps
Help, thoran cheese isn't working
Can’t figure this out
nara
daimon
silias
thoran
lyca
Daimon dies basically instantly
So yea I don’t think that one works cause daimon just dies too fast
whats daimons artifact?
Horn
put call on him and try it again
Yesss that worked thank you so much
Stuck
are u not garrisonning ainz?
anw try swapping thoran and lucius positions lucius that doesnt cast just feels super useless there.
Idk how to get the garrison emblem thingys
Sometimes I wish I could see how many times you’ve failed a stage
I swear I’ve failed 18-32 well over 80 times
You'll see it under your tales tab actually
Yeah true. Then upon seeing it, you'll just laugh it out
True, last one I was stuck on was 138 attempts lol
I’ve posted it here before but maybe fresh eyes might have an idea
I have enough garrison coins to hire someone if it helps, also 3 open crystal slots
garrison tab “exchange” button
I got it, thanks.
Swap tasi and daimon maybe
Also why are you not using fane/lyca/shem instead of grez
Should i change carry
How do i beat this
I would go Lyca/Talene over Rowan, he's not very good w/o M item at this stage of the game.
Is this level doomed until I can level hero’s more
Cause I die instantly and even when I don’t I just don’t seem to have the damage
have u tried to swap rowan and nara?
I have
That’s what I usually have it set as, was just testing to see if interrupting healer would help
no... im pretty sure i beat that with level 160s?
u can swap oden out with ferael
ferael
-rowan
daimon
-brutus
nara
should work with enough retries?
I’ll keep trying with that, but I’m usually dead by 1:08 with no one killed
if its not working at all u can also try taking rowans gear off and putting oden back in for ferael so silvina goes to rowan
Add me, 139206631
I'm pretty sure I cleared it with lower levels, so check what I did
Your list is full
try now
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accepted, check my line up and try to copy it
Even down fully geared and Rowan no gear Rowan has 1000 more def
Not even close, mind you your daimon was ascended and mine is just m so that may be it
This was my clear
Theoretically it should work even if it takes a while
The stat boost from M to A shldn't be that much, and was my Daimon lvl200 then?
Old SS? if not how did u get that?
Yea old ss
Ah I see, sad ty
Nah still 180
Your clear vs my lack of one
Your added levels of 20 more than mine shld be able to compensate for the time then... check ur artifacts and weapons- are you equipping the right ones? And try retry spamming
Artifacts are the same except no potion thing on Brutus cause I don’t have it
u can merc a lucretia and she can pretty much solo most PoT's
Chalice of Vitality, it's basically useless, it just gave one more hit to leave brutus alive
Try retry spamming, if I was able to do it with that then you should be able to do it too, the level gap of 19 shld be able to compensate for Daimon being A if not overcompensating
Can’t merc till next week, but at this rate I might still be here
Ya I’ll just keep going and see if any difference happens
have u tried this?
Ya didn’t come in close at all
just keep retrying xd, i take screenshots of clears if they were difficult
I’m now realizing it may be a gear diff, you had 5 star mythic boots that matched his faction, I have no star mythical that don’t match his faction
Did you not pop the chest for GB boots?
I had no idea about the fact that boots were so important when I got there, and since I already had mythic boots and weapon for him I popped it for mythic gb helm
you didnt read the guide did you
I read it but unfortunately I didn’t retain all of the info, the boots being one of them
I don't think the gear would've made such a huge difference, plus my comp was rather similar to Dreaf's one, just try retryspamming Dreaf's or mine
Sounds good, thanks for the help guys
Could I take a peak at your artifacts
yea sure, i'll get my id
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Literally the only diff between me and dreaf is those damn boots
rip 🥲 . boots r pretty op
Just try retry spamming
The difference between Dreaf and I was 20 levels, so just retry spamming for now. Check ur guild store to see if u can get boots
And no point in enhancing mine cause they’re celestial right?
yea only enhance faction gear that applies to ur hero
I mean if u have reset scrolls that works
yea
Reset scroll will be random right? So I pull and pray he can still use them?
Cause I do have 1
pretty much yea
boots > weapon > hat > chest is the standard priority order i think
if u want to... honestly i wouldnt
get +20 when u can, that shld make the vital difference
something to keep in mind this is the line up tab dont want you lot to get in trouble
This is his set up atm cause at the time that I had the chest I didn’t realize how important faction boots specifically were, I was just trying to get all mythic gear
Ya I’m 40 emblems short and not high enough level to get them yet
Good call man
Read beginner guide pinned in #classic-questions
Need some help
reset that witch lady , lvl her up again to lvl 140 , and take ur other L+ to lvl 155
k
and reset ur worst purple dude , and lvl up the l+ bird @sly spire
👍done
Halp plz
Albedo is out of the question btw I just got her soo she’s weak
Belinda is my strongest mage and Lucretia is my strongest ranger
@vagrant horizon Don’t spam one channel to get ppl to go in another
Not to be rude but I didn’t spam
Can I get help as well
I asked once
Twice, I screenshotted and removed both, thank you
The second time I was responding to your message 🧐
If you haven’t had the chance yet, I’d highly recommend checking out the guides pinned in #classic-questions as you don’t have a good carry for after lvl 140
@pale kettle you should probably start working on that Belinda
Ikkkk I’ve been trying to get eiron or daimon or just get more copys for scarlet
Your next LB you ascend should be a 3-skill hero using other 3-skill heroes as fodder
;-; bruh mother shemira so much better but u right
Yea that’s what I’m tryna get
🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️😅 that is not true my friend respectfully
Hogan the closest one to ascend
Let’s move to #classic-chat
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is it possible to pass 440lvl as I do not have hendric ascended ?
Thoughts? Was on a roll till i got here.
Try to switch Brutus with daimon. Does Rosa survive to ult? Imo I would rather sub her in for a Fera or oden.
Sometimes she does. I'll try it tho
Usually my issue is tasi freezing daimon while the Brutus kills the rest of my team
swap daimon and oden you need to keep daimon within rowans potion circle in order to get the energy pot
Yea I think I was trying different positions like that but fawkes just coffins too quick and then everyone dies
sounds crazy but did you drop brutus and try lyca for the haste boost as well as front row daimon for additional energy gain in hopes that you can kill something fast enough to stop fawks?
Will try it now
Beat it, ty 🙏
Cleared all of Ch13 with this team and got stuck here. Any suggestions?
I've also got 2 free spaces in my RC
Is lucretia good for a new player?
Hello @vital fox,
Please check out the pinned messages/guides in the #classic-questions and #lineup-help channels.
She requires investment, at least mythic with 30 sig. Before that she doesn't work at all. If you can merc one tho, she works well. Just need to put some fodders on her team, and she steamrolls.
Ended up throwing lyca in for Brutus. Tiny bit of haste worked like a charm
Ooh, nice
Pls help, idk why thoran doesn't wanna work
Hey guys, I’m struggling to continue on campaign, any suggested changes I’m gonna post all my heroes underneath
@quaint pawn I’ve used this site a LOT. https://afkhelper.nax.is/campaign.php?chapter=17&stage=6
Can i get help on what my team should look like early?
Any ideas on how I can deal with this? 
Silvina always gets a freebie, Daimon gets Estrilda stampeded on, and damage is, as always, very high. 
Finally got +30 raku, any ideas for formation?
no?
I'm trying no luck
I have 5 other e celeps tho :/
Mortas too but I dont have him either
currently trying this and hoping raku can dodge enough vs brutus/tasi
Im literally 50 guild coins off another t2 stone for raku
Question! Should I assign the twins in my lineup immediately? Or no?
Campaign? They won't do much. And avoid making so many L heroes.
I see, and yes Im trying to stop that addiction '0
Well, good luck. Make sure you check #classic-questions pins. Looks great as a start though.
Wanna clear chapter 
Try Daimon >Lyca Rowan >Brutus Ferael, take Ferael's weapon off. Can also go Thoran over Lyca.
Anyone done this cancerous stage recently? I've been stuck on it for too long to not get annoyed by now
nothing works
No luck :c
Antandra better than luc ok guys
Out of ideas
nothing gets close
Currently in the middle of chapter 6. Progress is pretty slow for me. Any suggestions for a better generic line up to help me progress a little faster.
This is what i am currently running. I had mirael in middle back. Not sure why i tried her upfront.
yea keep mirael middle back. Also read the pinned beginner guides in #classic-questions
How to beat this stage I keep getting one shot
Also should I get Tasi, Eironn or Lyca to Mythic to increase the cap lock?
U don’t need it rn. 160 crystal is good enough for the next few chapters
So I should just focus on upgrading Thorsn and Damion?
Until I cna get Rowan mythic
Yea, usually focus on 1 hero from every faction to get to A first. Mythic Rowan with his sig will help u too
Too bad my RNG luck garbage when I want certain heros
Once u get daimon Ascended u unlock Hcp where u can get the copies u need to get more heroes ascended
My luck with Damion awful 15k gems for one copy
just keep using faction scrolls on gb you'll get him eventually. , i also hope u dont mean u stargazed for daimon with diamonds
U can try
Daimon
-Brutus
Rowan
-Thoran
Eirron
@idle oriole failed
How many times did u try lol
U can put eirron in the middle to pull everyone, maybe it’ll help daimon
Eironn dies before doing a pull cuz infinite stun
Lyca instead of thoran
@high marlin Lyca is lvl 1
Yea, put her on your crystal
No spot and lyca is elite+ only
You can replace at least 5 of the heros on your crystal with her
Like who
Wu Kong, saurus, Thane, Seirus, Ankhira for starters. Solice, Estrilda, Shemira, and Satrana could he replaced also tbh, but less so
Shemira is one of the mains and satrana is op

Who would be better Oden or Shemira?
Help
Just get whoever is at 8 copies to A when possible
Yh
Don’t star hunt
Because each stat is 2 percent more stats which aren’t that significant early
10
10 percent only 5 stars max and one star is an elite plus copy
You want to get as many heroes to A as possible when you are starting
Obviously try and priotise better heroes then others though
Obviously try and priotise better heroes then others though
But more HCPs = more choice of what 4F heroes you can get to A
Hey guys, been trying to follow the beginner guide. Recommendations on how I can tweak and polish my dudes?
Looks good rn. Add lyca in ur crystal tho, maybe grezhul and Rosa too for bosses/events later on
In need of assistance
What hero should I build next in graveborn? 1 copy away from grezhul and Thoran having enough copies to A
Level issue?
grez and oden imo
rowan
daimon
nara
thoran
lyca
oden
lyca
rowan
daimon
nara
Silas
That was the first team I tried but I tried it again and still no luck. Can’t break through lucius before he shields cos tasi banish and arden roots
get daimon to 220 you should be able to do it since everything else is at 180
Alright yea, I imagined I might have to do that
lmk and for sure youll clear it
Yea I cleared the chapter xD, ty
nice 👍 might be able to clear another chapter as well
lyca
talene
rowan
daimon
arden
Got destroyed pretty quickly. Thanks for the suggestion tho :D
what was doing the most dps to you?
Mirael
see if eirron can pull mireal to your side and interrupt her enough to slow down her dps i know estrildas run through is going to kill eirron but maybe its enough
eirron
lyca
talene
daimon
arden
Even when he pulls them, the rest of the team gets leveled quickly and Daimon can't do enough damage before he goes too. Thanks for the help my friend, I guess I'll keep leveling Daimon and try again later
see if you can get signature item emblems and and yeah some more levels will help best of luck
I've got Daimon at +14 for his SI, I'll use the rest of the Blossom event tokens on getting more gold emblems. I pulled 4th Rowan yesterday and it won't be long till I can get him to M too. That'll help for sure
Help😢
swap ainz and daimon then drop ainz and add lyca
Closer, but not yet there
keep retrying if its that much closer rng as you know
do you have a nara or eirron?
maybe idk , what faction are they?
nara the graveborn eirron the wilder
i do have eironn , but only elite
thats fine put him in your crystal then do this formation
lyca
thoran
silias
daimon
eirron
see if this gets you any closer or clears it
i think the problem with this , is daimon dies to fast
well thats why i asked about eirron or nara to pull the target to your side that is duing the most dps to try to stop them so daimon has time to scale
ill try to lvl up my dudes , then ill win it , but thnx for ur effort
any suggestions here? i’m getting railed every time ngl
do you have a nara from graveborn or eirron from wilders?
unfortunately not
long shot but athalia the celestial?
no sir
i see well put nara and eirron on your wishlist for at least one copy of either of them they allow you to pull an enemy to your back row and stop them from doing damage that isabella is whats causing you trouble
Is there anything I can do here to beat this Flora comp? I already tried Thoran and he can’t do enough damage because half the team doesn’t hit him.
ty
I've probably hit a wall.
Daimon doesn't even get a spell off.
Just instantly wiped. o -o..
Did it, swapping rowan for nara.
Taking horse shits..
is there a team here for PVE?
Currently using Daimon, Tidus, Thoran, Antrandra and Lyca
stop upgrading to leg tier pls. drop lucius, orthos,morrow,wukong from rc and put oden, brutus,nara in
so Nara Brutus and Oden, why stop upgrading characters to lego though?
if you cant make them leg+ your wasting food on them since your stuck waiting for copies rather than taking something to leg+ that has said copies
oh, I guess that makes sense what comp would I be using my characters in though
depends on what your facing
currently campaign I'm in world 14
generally it should be daimon 2 other graveborns for faction bonus then prob brutus and lyca
So Daimon Thoran and Oden most likely with Brutus and Lyca
nara over thoran in some cases to stop a enemy dps and so on
okay I got enough to make Oden mythical I believe, would that be smart or wait on that?
id take daimon to m+ for the stat bonuses for now then go from there
alright thanks for the tips, so I should level up Brutus instead of Lucious?
no just put your brutus in your crystal after the 24 hours of waiting is over
What team would be best currently on chapter 11:)
Any suggestions?
if your not struggling then just keep doing what your doing
lyca
grez
rowan
daimon
nara
what do you think is stopping prince from chain ccs?
like is mehira charming him or is belinda ulting him or safiyas nuke so on
none of that like legit just dying
he goes to baden
and ether dies from him or boucnes back and then dies to numisu or bretus
he doesnt live long enough to even pop one alt
could try dropping brutus for lyca for the haste maybe itll allow him to get one ultimate off
ok lemme try taht
its going better so ima try and rng it
LMAO was about to get it then a nuke came outa no where and rolled damion and now i bet it thanks
How about this one? 😅 The Arden is doing my head in...
post the stage of the enemy cant help if we cant see what your facing
same position as this honestly
lyca
grez
rowan
daimon
nara
This team don’t work
yeah so your lacking a carry hero honestly so go to the #classic-questions section of this discord and look for the beginner pins and go over those i dont think ill be able to suggest anything to help
i have a bad wukong and i dont have daimon so id have to get mireal or get shemira to m,
Any ideas?
work towards a mireal its going to be slow but thats your best bet if you want to save food for later heros in graveborn and shemira falls off hard at around chapter 20-24 where as daimon can carry your dps till 31-4 where youll need 2 teams
bet
only thing i can suggest is swapping lyca and ardens position in hopes to keep him alive for roots if you had a tasi or a prince id say drop him for either of them for the better cc
I have a mehira but she cant survive mid :C
yeah im not sure then your at a rough point especially if your doing what your name entails
eh may just merc even though beginning of the week
try garisonning PoP
check name
how suppose i know what the challenge is?
since I mentioned it assume im not going to garrison PoP
nvm jusr pray that arden rng roots the targets
I merced it 👍
well raku comp requires good cc around him too so without tasi, pop, mehira windbinder, arden is good you'll just need rng
Yeah Ima be struggling big until I can get windbinder and maybe a second mehira
ldv is a possibility too gorvo too
check name
How's this one look?
I want to take lyca out of formations but I kinda get fkd
if your facing a lyca pretty much need her to match haste values
the shield break is such a pain
At an 83 deficit just throw in some random heroes
Yeah chuck that rowan/daimon in there
Any ideas around this one? Falling flat on second
I’m thinking about switching my oden out for shemira (also allows my daimon to go to ascended from mythic) what do y’all think?
are you talking about scarificing your oden into your daimon?
I would be and switch him out for shemira
Both my shemira and oden are leg+
Or at least switch oden out for shemira and not sacrifice oden and wait for another leg+ graveborn
yeah dont sacrifice oden to power up daimon thats wasted copies of oden and hes far better than shemira
Ok
Looking for in ch.23. What I've been using ( pictured ) isn't cutting it. Too much CC on Oden and I can't seem to break it.
Hello, everyone. I am a returning player from about an year, and I came back recently and whaled a little bit for some things.
Anyway, what I wanted to ask was this
I am currently running a Daimon comp(surprise, surprise) and my lineup looks like this:
Arthur, Rowan, Daimon, Tasi, Eironn(with Eironn heavily invested)
Now, I have read that Ferael is the best pair for Daimon? Is that true and do I replace something in my lineup for him?
(Add. info: Arthur is only max stars but no sig yet as I am low on purple primordials and same with Rowan who is only +8, Daimon is +20/no F, Tasi is same as him, and Ferael should I add him is like that as well. My Eironn is +30/3-9F)
P.S: I apologize if this is the wrong channel for it
i think #classic-questions is better bc this is for like stages
Halp
Damon up and put crane in damon place
And put Taidus in Tallinn place
@arctic laurel
Umm?
Just try it
Hello everyone, any tips on this stage?
Try
Daimon
Brutus
Fearel
Thoran
Rowan
Stop ascending heroes to L without being able to get them to L+ or you’ll get stuck a lot. If u haven’t already, read the pinned guides in #classic-questions
In any case post ur full hero box
Any tips?
Get rid of tasi and put ferael in
You should put Arthur and rowan frontline and put eirron middle backline with daimon and ferael either side
Tried this stage a couple hundred times, someone on afkhelper supposedly did it with this exact team 20 levels lower than me. Any suggestions?
Before anyone suggests it: luc can't handle double Brutus in my case, even with 4xT3
5 pulling it is your easiest play there though. Just slap a Safiya on the 5 pull and Luc will handle it.
It's less RNG compared to your current lineup
Will E safiya work?
Yh
You only need her barrier
I see. I don't know who to throw out of my crystal though. I'm tempted to buy slots but I'm not stupid
Wait for a slot to open then. There's no need to rush KT anyway
❤️
Any help?
maybe reset the elite ones and upgrade the leg
also maybe change ur wishlist
read pins in #classic-questions, stop making random legs without taking them to L+
Dude I was just asking
Hes right tho
second that
?
basically "i agree"
english 100 lol
theres actually this word combo haha
i made a ton of heroes legendary and i had 0 food, and i still got like 8 more leg heroes
idk english aint my main lang
mine either haha but yeah i got scolded enough with people screaming at me for upgrading too many useless heros and cant make anything past leg
i just unlocked my rc today and i thought it will carry me all throu ch28 ... a man can dream
cant be that bad
May i ask for line up help or reccomendaditons please
Confusion
Kind thanks to you, sir. Appreciate it much!
np replace your wishlist according to this ascencion prio
CR = Cursed Realm and is unlocked at RC 350 and TR = Twisted Realm
AE = Abyssal expedition for you campaign is main focus since your roster isn't that big
Oh sweet! Atleast I did some stuff right. Thanks once again
Need help. 😦
Need some help finding a good lineup for chapter 38
swap pop and nara?
There is no lineup for 38
But what stage ?
Draw on it or use a filter
ok
same problem
Stage ?
no heroes
Like chapter 38-??
oh
i am still at the start and i struggled in the last one so i thought about changing my teams from the beginning
I have clears for every multi stage
So 38-60, right ?
Btw my rc is 405
Plz help 😢 i have done 20 lvls upgrade, and i still cant pass
hero lvl 405?
Yes
now i am sure that i am using the wrong teams
Anyone i should focus more on? Other than daimon
Nara pulls Vurk. If he isn’t pulled, Vurk kills PoP
Rent a Lucretia and try to get lifesteal/crit/+agi dmg/stats on ally death artifacts.
yeee ill ned to wait for another week but thx anyways xd
Try Rowan >Daimon Nara >Brutus Ferael/Oden
It worked tysm

Pain
Maybe not putting your main carry opposite of Athalia is a good start
is the lineup good though?
Because I tried to look for something online. Lightbearers didn't work.
And this comp dies instantly :/
tbh your characters are pretty off--meta in general lucius is only good up to lvl 100 and belinda is never good in general
a brutus in pos 4 would help delay athalia tho
I just came back to the game wasn't playing for like 2 years so don't know much tbh
I will try ty
yh LBs and shem were good for early game before but meta has changed probably look at beginner guide pinned in #classic-questions it has wishlist and general tips
Currently hard stuck on 16-12. Any tips? I’ve also got 90k in the lab shop, so I could buy 2 copies of a hero if it’ll help. Possibly Nemora? Thanks!
ur choice if u wanna shoot urself in the foot now
im leaving it at that figure it out urself
change artifacts, chaos bringer on wukong&Alna, call on twins, warden/eye on flora
it means you are at the point that you will ruin your early game progression because you made so many fodder which its only a waste and your wishlists isn't optimized either at that chapter you could just use daimon or mirael carry and put meta supports there
i highly suggest you go to #classic-questions and check the beginners guide on the pins
Still happening
change wukong with talene pos
nice gj, are u going to gaze for alna?
ok, yes luc first shes great
My whole campaign is based on eironn 5 pull so I thought it was a good idea
She really is great
ah cool, remember u need multiple teams tho
Yeah
Getting ainz and albedo from garrison
Got a full team of gb
And the others ill figure it out
Charm works without high investment at your chap
Works at E though, just doesn't fit all enemies, for multi very useful
I used an E+ mehira at chap 37
Brutus Rowan
Rosa mehira Raku
Eventually you want khazard at M and mehira at M, that's chap39 and up
Can use Pop too, anything cc, tasi, your juste want mehira to keep charming
Later on Raku is not even on the team, before stun lock you need him
Yea my raku is also elite+
You have time, just keep this one in mind, top 3-4 comp
Kren is a good option too for later on
Help , for the 2nd fight i can kill most of the time with luc with some decent rng but i keep dying cuz of cele/rosa
@rose tundra why merlin 3 star?
thoran cheese vs flora comp
Cuz i been told it dont make a difference and saving up my key for arthur which im 45/60 which imma 5* and dim key
u will need lorsan to link estrilda and rowan
Thanks then👍🏻
Lol
your RC is high so it might take a lot of retries
Lorsan aint much i can do about getting him A yet im working on ascending mishka rn
u dont need anything on him, he just needs to cast the link
He eli+ bruh
that works
a lot of heroes can be used without being at A, lorsan is a prime example
Still working on it
looks good
You need 5☆ t2 boots and weapon to increase more accuracy.
also get 5* call when u can
Thats why i said working on it
Oh alr
Im almost there but still working on it , also still need to get the mythic gb helm
but again your deficit is sub 100 so youre gonna have a real hard time cheesing, if it doesnt work just throw random heroes and pray
80 is the lowest deficit i can cheese XD
No not using merc my own luc can almost do it
Whats the team again for thoran cheese
everything is optional but u need lorsan to link estrilda and rowan, rowan is the only stationary backline so preferable have ur cheeser near
theres a lot of cheese comps for that team/stage on afkhelper so just pick whatever suits u
I need help clearing this stage any suggestions?
Do you have Ferael or anything to CC Tasi?
any suggestions for a lineup? ch 11
Try to stop making hero’s L and not L+, if you seem to continue with that, you’ll keep getting stuck trying to rack up fodders. 😭
Athalia keeps screwing me over what can I do?
shiiiii
so I should only continue to ascend past elite+ if I have enough to get to mythical?
Only been playin a few days. Any suggestions on who to focus on?
go to #classic-questions and read the beginner guides in the pinned section and in there and you should find what you are looking for and be set
Thanks!
Oden and Damon in the beginning will up you creepily
40 lvls upgrade, and still someone plz😢
Post your box might be able to suggest something
Who does the enemy Rosaline follow?
Fawkes
Try putting Peggy on your RC. My current ideas:
Rosaline
-- Peggy
Rowan
-- Hendrik/Cecilla
Gwyneth
or
Rosaline
-- Peggy
Gwyneth
-- Rowan
Hendrik/Cecilla
Also note that since you don't have Gwyneth's 3f effect, there will be significantly more RNG involved
I think putting Shroud on Gwyneth is pretty important to stop enemy Fawkes coffin
So who would Rosaline follow? Also is this front row to back row or back row to front?
Peggy dies instantly
What’s a good lineup for awakened talene
Last stage 
Pls help
Hi, ferael isnt really working bc he usually dies at the start bc of dwarves, and when he does fear he just collapses right after and i have tried swapping daimon and ferael
Try swapping Brutus and rowan
Ferael >Brutus Nara/Lyca >Rowan Daimon. Ferael is there to stun Tasi and stop her banish. Make sure you remove his weapon whenever you fight a Tasi team.
not sure if i should ask here, but what should i merc to pass this?
Was @ school
Can’t find a way to stall until daimon ramps up, any ideas?
Any suggestions? 😅
yes fix your wishlist
Alright
And read pins in #classic-questions
Alright 👍🏻
suggestions?
Only person on my friends list I've seen do it used Ainz (Team 1), 5pull (Team 2), Thoran (Team 3), and did raku for 4th but used
Lyca
Rowan
Mehira
Grezhul
Raku
yeah i was using him earlier but i have only gotten one
so he is not doing that much
why so?
oh alr
Wanna garrison mine? 309
If you need him you need him
putt put lyca instead of rosa
she can be a flex for both but i think she’d work better in mehira than luc
Mortas M +20
I was told
M Mortas > A Haelus > Twins 1-star
You agree?
Yeah
Recommendations for a good line up please? So far I've been running Thoran, Mishka, Rowan, Mirael, and Arden.
you following beginner guide pinned in #classic-questions ?
yup. getting fodders up and leveling them and ive ben keeping them at the res crystal.
i think ive been following it well in my opinion at least
stop making L+ A tier heroes
you should level 5 L+ FODDER and put the A tier heroes in rc
for a team ig you could do
rosa
>golus
mirael
>mishka/rowan
arden
Please help 😭
I'm trying Misty Valley and I need help.
put 4 random lb and then merc a lucretia
what should i use ?
restart on new server with upgraded wishlist would I say