lineup-help

[patent thorn]

Im very weak with them

[silk ibex]

You don't have E Mortas either, might wanna get one

[maiden marsh]

daimon with charm, something funky with eironn, then lucretia can clean up R3 (with dodge gear)

you can flex gwyn in ainz or charm, depends

[silk ibex]

Work on Raku for Charm maybe?

[maiden marsh]

yeah that'll do

[silk ibex]

Dunno priority since he's missing a lot of Core Heroes

[maiden marsh]

M lucretia with that gear and +20 can easily handle that deficit, but get her 30 anyways

[patent thorn]

I wanned to get her to ascended and sig 30 definitely

Then i would probably focus on rest champs

[maiden marsh]

but for now she can definitely clean up a round with minimal support

[cinder thistle]

Would Grezhul not be a good Frontline to replace Daimon with?

[patent thorn]

Right now I'm looking for 3 teams in campaign chapter 34

First one is okay but rest isn't so good

[maiden marsh]

so one team can be charm with daimon, lucretia can be a second team, and the last can be an amalgam of damage dealers, or ainz if you regarrison him

[patent thorn]

Mehira and daimon for first team?

[maiden marsh]

something like rowan lyca daimon mehira (with windbinder) plus a flex slot

[silk ibex]

Grezhul doesn't work too well without investment, +20 Signature Item and 9 Furniture specifically (209)

[cinder thistle]

I see. Ok thanks again

[silk ibex]

He's also primarily meant to be a carry later on, not just a tank

The difference is he probably tanks way better than Daimon even without Alna

[patent thorn]

Something like this?

[maiden marsh]

daimon generally prefers backline but the general idea is there

[patent thorn]

Ferael in front meybe?

Or idk some other champ

[maiden marsh]

as long as daimon doesn't die and mehira manages to ult, positioning is just whatever works

[patent thorn]

What about second one?

Solise is always making me a problem

[maiden marsh]

that's a rather unfavorable matchup for luc, but try surrounding her with weak hypogeans and trash then putting her backline

[patent thorn]

Okay

[polar whale]

Help.

[thorny fulcrum]

Anything I can do here to better my chances? No matter the lineup I die in 5-10 seconds.

[fresh ice]

Any idea for this fight?

[ivory sable]

stuck on this fight in chapter 28

[safe hazel]

I’m stuck on that one as well lol just haven’t broke crystal yet

[autumn orbit]

Any ideas?

Trying rlly hard to pass chapter 11 cause I unlock a bunch of things

[amber beacon]

Try using Silvina and/or Nara to cc/kill Saveas/Mirael. I'd try:

Nara/Silvina

Thoran
Mirael
Golus
Daimon

[gloomy fossil]

Hi people what can I change in my deck

[kind nest]

Stop making heroes L without the copies for L+.
You should have ascended fodder heroes to L+ and then levelled them to 160. Then sacrificed them to an ascended tier hero.
If you want some help, jump into #classic-questions and read the pinned guides

[tawdry fjord]

Should I switch wukong for talene? Wukong is currently in the front with daimon but is too squishy and dies early

[lean iron]

I cant seem to beat this 4 hero team……. Can anyone help me? I can use any of those heroes since its heroes of Esperia event

[grizzled zodiac]

Any suggestions?

[trail prawn]

idk what to do

[amber beacon]

Wukong falls off hard after level 100.

[tawdry fjord]

Oof that explains it

[fresh ice]

Any tip for this?

[brittle escarp]

Uhh which one should I do

[trail prawn]

cards

also thats #classic-questions

[mental glen]

Probably want nara across from mirael or raine

[primal mist]

Nara the Mira instead of Fera

[trail prawn]

could someone help

[fresh ice]

Oh ty, got it done usng the afk helper

[mental glen]

brutus, grez, daimon, rowan, ferael

[raven egret]

Trying a 5pull. What am I missing? I’m getting destroyed here

[trail prawn]

thx it worked

[primal mist]

This was my clear of that level. It took a lot of retries, but it could work for you

[trail prawn]

what stage is that

[raven egret]

I’ll try it. Because my hero’s are stronger than yours on that so it SHOULD work lol

Do I place them in that order @primal mist ?? Like 12345 starting with Rowan

[primal mist]

yep

[primal mist]

28-16

[raven egret]

God I’m getting wrecked…. I gotta be doing something wrong

[primal mist]

Artifacts?

[primal mist]

Yeah, that's the issue. Put Grace on frontline and Eye on non-carry backline

[raven egret]

Alright one sec lol

[primal mist]

The extra dodge requires a lot of rng to help the frontline, and the backline has to get lucky with crits and haste, but eye and grace are much better than chalice and blade

Also, Rowan, Fera, Oden, and Daimon have T1/T2 gear

[trail prawn]

im stuck on same stage

[raven egret]

Better? And idk about my gear at that level

[trail prawn]

and my daimon got full T2 gear maxed

[raven egret]

Daimon and Rowan have t1 and t2. Everyone else is very normal

[primal mist]

I highly recommend getting T1/T2 boots/weapon for those 4. The dodge on the gear lets Rowan work frontline, and the extra stats help Oden and Fera support Daimon a lot

[fresh ice]

Which unit can replace this?

[primal mist]

Brutus

[fresh ice]

ty

Worked like a charm

[raven egret]

All my oden gear is from awakened talene lol so it’s all celestial

[primal mist]

eh, it's close enough

[trail prawn]

do you think it will work with L+ oden

[raven egret]

Yes I know I should have t1’d the boots first

[primal mist]

No idea. 203 Oden helps a lot to nerf enemy energy regen and cc

[trail prawn]

im trying. I get close sometimes but then mirael ults

[primal mist]

If you're getting close with decent frequency, you might be able to brute force it with retries for the right rng

[trail prawn]

just beat it with this @primal mist @raven egret

[raven egret]

I still can’t… it’s tiring

[trail prawn]

the one i did had me do it 2nd try

[raven egret]

Lemme try yours

[raven egret]

Lmao first try

[trail prawn]

nice

using same team and im on 20. Hopefully i can beat it with same one

[raven egret]

Good to know

[primal mist]

Noice! Wish I had the Grez to pull that off 😄

[trail prawn]

it worked with a few retries. Had to move daimon an brutus to top

[raven egret]

Drop alna for PoP

[raven egret]

Yeah no luck for me yet

I’m mostly just upset that my awakened talene doesn’t do SHIT pardon my French..

[trail prawn]

how tf you got her ascended tho

[trail raven]

someone help pretty plssss

[trail prawn]

try lucr five pull

[warm yew]

Are you able to make that daimon +20? Also stop ascending so many random heroes, you're wasting fodder for the ones you actually need

[raven egret]

Pure luck tbh

[trail raven]

i didnt know i wasnt supposed to do that when i started

[raven egret]

55 pulls to mythic, i believe I hold the lowest pulls for ascended in the game ngl

[trail raven]

yeah i can make him +20 but what would that do?

[warm yew]

Rip, just fix your furniture wishlist and follow the guides again. Get that skraith to A with 3f to use luc 5 pull

[warm yew]

It lets him steal the stats of enemies when he uses blood shield

[trail raven]

is that good with lucretia or can i use other ppl?

[warm yew]

That's why he's hyped a shit ton early game, he's just a monster

[warm yew]

You can, but luc can be in her own comp

[tepid creek]

I’m somewhat of a new player. Only level 37

[warm yew]

You started today didn't you

Or yesterday....

[tepid creek]

Maybe like 2-3 days

[warm yew]

Have you been following the pinned beginner guides in #classic-questions

[tepid creek]

It’s just, Kharzard, I don’t know what to do with him

[warm yew]

Keep him, you'll need him a long time later

Not like you can throw him out anyway

[tepid creek]

Haha, yeah

[trail raven]

can i have a comp for him?

[tepid creek]

I guess it’s fine as long as he’s kept alive by the shield

[warm yew]

Daimon

Lyca/Brutus
Rowan
Brutus/Lyca
Ferael

[potent citrus]

Why are you luc cheesing a line up with brutus

[trail raven]

my ferael is l+ should i still use him

[warm yew]

Yes it'll still be viable

[tepid creek]

Would Pippa be worth getting legendary to replace Khazard till I get a copy of him?

[potent citrus]

Luc cheesing a Brutus is do-able but you're a masochist bc that will take many retry

Brutus will magnet lucretia

And lucretia gone

[warm yew]

Focus on daimon rowan lyca rn

You won't need pippa till ch33

[potent citrus]

Luc cheese the r1

[tepid creek]

Alright. I’ll just avoid feeding her

You said get Daimon, who am I replacing?

[warm yew]

Shemira

Reset her and level up daimon, then stop investing resources into her or lucius

[potent citrus]

Don't reset her rn

Put that daimon on crystal

Shemira has higher lv cap than daimon

[tepid creek]

Ah okay. Would you recommend getting Daimon legendary?

[warm yew]

Oh yeah almost forgot about that, also get another fodder to L/L+ if you can

[potent citrus]

Never ever L+ if you can't mythic

[tepid creek]

I can get Daimon L right now

[warm yew]

...? It's fodder, he needs it for 160 before using them to get main heroes M or higher

[autumn orbit]

Bro?? It’s never L ascended tier heroes if you can’t L+ lol

Can’t figure this level out I’m so close to chapter 12 it’s rlly annoying lol

[lusty spindle]

Put daimon front row where thoran is move thoran to tank the estrilda if you have room in crystal then throw in ferael and drop the mauler. Minor stun should still work. I think that is your best bet atm

[autumn orbit]

Like this?

[lusty spindle]

Try that with any gear you have, may take a couple of attmpts but should pass

[wooden shell]

What would be my optimal team?

[autumn orbit]

I’ll spam retry for a few min and see if it works and I put all my best gear on them

Still not working

Saveas just one shots daimon

OH NVM IT WORKED

[potent citrus]

Nah it's Don't L+ if you can't M

You're wasting a fodder

Get that to L+

Then that hero will get stuck to L+

Then you will pull dupe of other heroes

No fodder? Well better luck next time

[silent moss]

if you have a nara drop lyca and try to pull the mireal to cc lock her for a little to prevent more shielding

[tight ruin]

How in the world am i supposed to stop tasi from permastunning daimon

[primal mist]

You've got 2 options. Either permastun her with cc or upgrade Fera's gear so he has higher attack and takes the banishes instead. I think people also use Nara to buy time, but that never worked for me

[tight ruin]

Ooo ok

[primal mist]

I found that PoP + Fera worked pretty well to permastun Tasi and Ezizh because Silvi also aggroes onto Brutus. Giving Fera more attack worked sometimes too, but I prefer to keep an L+ weapon on him so he gets his fear off first before he dies because that helps stunlock

[arctic laurel]

Might be something that I did not think about yet, but it's annoying. Help please?

[arctic laurel]

I do not have athalia

Also my Thoran is E+ only, won't ascend him yet as Oden is top Priority.

[pale kettle]

use nara to hook mirael, replace either oden or lyca, personally id replace the lyca

[arctic laurel]

Already tried multiple times, Nara either dies as soon as she hooks or she doesn't hook at all

[pale kettle]

do u have a brutus?

[arctic laurel]

Already tried as well.

Even tried putting call on Nara so she would actually pull

[pale kettle]

try:
daimon

rowan
eironn
brutus
nara

i think the fall thingy at the start stops nara from hooking

[arctic laurel]

It's estrilda doing damage, knocking Nara out of the animation. Tried with eironn too, even with call. What I need is si20 daimon, but I need 43 more golds

[polar whale]

This is what I used to pass 19-4

I think you should probably just reset oden and use the XP for Daimon.

[arctic laurel]

Daimon can't get higher, he's M only, not M+, else I would have.

[polar whale]

You don't have GB fodder?

[arctic laurel]

That fodder will go towards Oden A, since I need to be able to raise my RC level. If I use that for Daimon I'll be hurting for fodder even more.

[polar whale]

But your Oden is already 180. You should be 200-160/160/160/160 before anything else.

200 being Daimon.

[arctic laurel]

I do not have the copies to ascend Daimon to A. Still missing 2. I'll get fodder locked.

I do understand your point though, I keep being told different things by people anyway.

Someone please donate me 43 golds so I can get Daimon's SI to 20. I'm tempted to cash just for that, save my wallet.

[lean iron]

Can anyone help me I cant beat this 4 hero team. Its heroes of esperia so i can use all of those heroes

[idle oriole]

Can u not beat the other 2 formations?

[pale kettle]

Any clue

[lean iron]

No way, they have ascended with a few stars. I can beat third formation coz its empty xd

[harsh urchin]

What do i do

[pale kettle]

:o but my talene dies too quick so I removed her from rc lol

@harsh urchin

[idle oriole]

then maybe just look for a different opponent lol

[lean iron]

I have pushed too far and can only fight those without 1 formation

[idle oriole]

even if u refresh? u dont get other ppl?

[idle oriole]

have u tried swapping eirron and daimon? idk

[harsh urchin]

ty

[half rover]

Help with that i cant kill all od them top many heals

[amber beacon]

I use this comp for Tasi lineups but this requires a ton of retries:

Ferael

Lyca
Rowan
Brutus
Daimon

You can swap the positions of Ferael and Daimon then Lyca and Brutus yo see which works better

[sleek delta]

@fiery wing try this so mehira will have extra energy from raine

[fiery wing]

aight wait

[fiery wing]

nice second try

[sleek delta]

Nice

[fiery wing]

thanks cleared -52

[sleek delta]

2 more multis for 37

Btw, -56 and -60 are easy

[fiery wing]

yeah i hope so

[pale kettle]

Try using a oden portal to clump up Brutus and golus

And play daimon middle

Lyca is also a good option

[pale kettle]

I just reached diamond 3 in HoE. Need some help with what my 4th and 5th team should be

[modern kelp]

Did anyone manage to do 39-16-2 ? all guide have this lineup but my thoran can't even charge one ult cuz of Oden

[harsh urchin]

How can i beat this

Nvm i got i5

[pale kettle]

U can use a merc as much as u want btw

[harsh urchin]

Oh then its easy bruh

[pale kettle]

Lol

[burnt sky]

i reckon you should still go for daimon M+ since oden can't carry as well as him

you also have an E+ daimon, if you're lucky you can get another copy of him and assuming you still have the HCC, you can get him ascended

[arctic laurel]

Just got 2 daimons today, need 1 more to get him to A, by the time I get the fodder I should be getting him. Just used the HCP today on one of the copies.

[formal blaze]

I used luc invade for that, but try giving ezizh call?

[burnt sky]

you dont have the hero choice chest?

[arctic laurel]

Used that as soon as I got it, for a Daimon copy.

[formal blaze]

kelthur gear can make a difference too, but i haven't seen the cheese in that fight play out

[arctic laurel]

Game wasn't nice with me, barely got any Daimon copies for a while, was stuck with an E+ daimon up until 13-37

Once I got M daimon, I pushed to ch 16 in the same day

[modern kelp]

I used invade on 5th

i tried so many diff gear for Thoran, one manage to get him to ult but he just don't have dmg

[formal blaze]

can you post the gear set up too?

[modern kelp]

Of thoran?

or all of them?

[pale kettle]

I have one rowan copy so far :) this stupid rng hates me

[formal blaze]

all of them

[modern kelp]

https://imgur.com/a/Kdy5xiE check link

[lean iron]

Cant you only use merc 1 time per week for campaign

[pale kettle]

Yeah but the context above was misty valley

[lean iron]

Aah okok

[formal blaze]

pippa might need upgraded boots, the extra haste can matter

if you can't get it to work, you can try luc on r2 and thoran on r5

[modern kelp]

Same heroes?

[formal blaze]

https://afkhelper.nax.is/images/chapters/39-16_1643587980.webp

that was the same general setup I used

[modern kelp]

Okay will try, have to merc an Ezio tomorrow then ^^

Nemora was 3/9 or 9/9?

[arctic vault]

Since I’m a noob, should I change anything

[trail raven]

someone help 😭

[formal blaze]

9f

[modern kelp]

don't have her 9F

[thorny fulcrum]

I'm stuck on this one in The Misty Valley. Raku is wrecking me from the backline

[polar whale]

Help.

[keen flame]

i require assistance

[trail prawn]

i need help

[trail prawn]

you should merc a lucr for misty valley

[idle oriole]

Read beginner guides in the pins in #classic-questions

[next zodiac]

any line up help to beat this ? i think all I need is time for 1 injection on Ainz and it's gg

the team I'm showing ain't my usual team btw lol just 1 I tried out

[full finch]

Ainz is linked to thoran without a key?

I'd use brutus on 2 to stall for time. if you can use thoran, throw him in spot one or use hogan/eironn. on 4 use nara to delay mirael. throw in ainz and melusina in 3/5

[next zodiac]

highest character that's why, and what is a key? only been playing 1 week

[full finch]

might use lyca instead of melusina if you already get the early energy buff (don't remember what the requirements are)

https://afk-arena.fandom.com/wiki/Dimensional_Key

so no, you don't have the keys yet (didn't remember when you get them)

[next zodiac]

ah ok np

I'll screenshot your advice and if u dontbhear back from me then it worked so i th u in advanced lol and ty for your input rn aswell

[full finch]

no problem, glad if it helps

you might also ditch ainz completely and use thoran in slot 1 with eironn/nara at 4/5 or 5/4 and see how it goes

[next zodiac]

ok i will test

@full finch lol ty so much 1st attempt with the thoran eiron team

[full finch]

👏

also I'd recommend to you to get Arden to L+ and keep him even if he's lower level. his CC is super strong and will help you a lot and it works even with 100 lvl difference compared to your other heroes. he just needs to root the enemies at the start. also mistake I see you making is getting a lot of L heroes, it's a waste of fodder in a long run

[next zodiac]

the thoran cheese is real looked into that comp early on but it's only now that he's beefy enough and the damage is high enough for him to kill and survive

[full finch]

the damage comes from enemies, not thoran himself

[next zodiac]

and yes mate ill start asking from now on already restarted once

[polar whale]

Help

[next zodiac]

yes thats what i meant incoming damage wasn't really high enough + also I got really fixated on Ainz

[full finch]

use daimon backline with arden, nara in slot 3, brutus/hogan front

[quaint pawn]

hey guys I started yesterday and am on 5-32, im not sure who I should play front line (current is damion (61) and shemira (63) / oden (60) and back line is Gwyneth (61), Mirael (60), and Oden/shemira

[full finch]

early you won't be using thoran to cheese but as a meat shield to stall for your carries. at least that's how it worked for me for a long time

[quaint pawn]

Here r my current heroes

[pale kettle]

Have u read pins?

[full finch]

early game you should use mainly L heroes so hogan golus work great. daimon even though he is listed as a tank is actually your carry

[quaint pawn]

Should I switch out oden or someone else for hogan?

@full finch

Or perhaps Gwen

[safe hazel]

read beginner guide pinned on #classic-questions

reset all heroes except 5 and you want to work towards 5 L+ fodder lvl 160

don't ascend any A tier heroes past E+ for now

daimon and rowan are the exceptions but you want them to have 4 copies or daimon at 3 before ch 12/ during

[astral wagon]

Any advice? Iv tried a few rotations of my heroes but they dont work, considering putting thoran or nara in there somehow

[safe hazel]

daimon
>brutus
rowan
>lyca
oden

[full finch]

what Asta says is what you should do, will help you more to focus on L heroes first than trying to work around what you have now

[safe hazel]

potentially oden for nara

[quaint pawn]

thx ill do that right now

[astral wagon]

Thank u!

[quaint pawn]

which 5 do you recommend with L (daimon, hogan, mirael, and who else

[full finch]

definitely arden as a support. last one I liked to use silvina

[quaint pawn]

ok ths!

[safe hazel]

hogan mirael silvina arden golus are the optimal ones

you put the A tier heroes in the resonating crystal and use a combination of A tier heroes and fodder heroes

[quaint pawn]

should I reset my 63 shemira too or just keep her

[safe hazel]

keep as many fodder heroes at E as possible

[quaint pawn]

so dont ascension anyone

[safe hazel]

then the A tier heroes you wanna keep in prio order are daimon > oden >mishka

[safe hazel]

past E+ don't fodder the A tier heroes

[safe hazel]

Legendary tier heroes are safe to L+ @quaint pawn these are the ones you want

[quaint pawn]

Sorry im really new, what are Legendary vs A tier?

[quaint pawn]

should I replace one of the tanks with a damion?

[full finch]

tier of heroes, their max ascension. R (rare, blue) > E (epic, purple) > L (legendary, gold and maximum tier for heroes starting blue) > M (mythic, red) > A (ascended, white, highest tier for heroes starting as E)

[quaint pawn]

Which of the 5 L's should I replace with daimon as the guide says?

[astral wagon]

[prisma needle]

What should I take into Soren hunt?

[polar whale]

Try renting a 309 Saurus from guild/friends.

After that just throw whatever supportive units you have for now. Rowan/Rosalinde are good, Raine adds value too.

[prisma needle]

Cool, ty

[worldly apex]

@undone wraith Brutus takes damage and increases his atk rating

that makes lucretia target him

[quaint pawn]

Is this good? Or should I switch formation around

[faint current]

Both Lucretia’s Deathwish and Brutus’s Brutal Defiance are worth reading and remembering for later

[worldly apex]

looks fine

[faint current]

Might want to swap Daimon and Arden

Focusing Brutus first can lead to pain due to his Brutal Defiance passive

[quaint pawn]

thx guys!

[undone wraith]

okay thank you guys (:

[safe hazel]

Yh that looks good just keep levelling and eventually you’ll get the hand of this game

[polar whale]

Help

[silk sentinel]

ehm who should be my carry at this stage? wukong daimon?

this is my line up rn

[safe hazel]

read pinned guide in #classic-questions

you shouldn't be buying anyone from lab store rn since the new dim is coming out soon

[silk sentinel]

oki

[safe hazel]

lemme know if you have any questions but you shouldn't ascend any A tier heroes past e+ for now and don't take rosa and lyca past L+ for now

[placid plover]

Help

[barren agate]

Yeah that's all fine and dandy, I can own up to making mistakes. But how do I fix it? That is not (obvious) in the guide.

[harsh urchin]

You get on with it and dont make the same mistakes

[barren agate]

But with what lineup? What faction do I focus on? What heroes do I hope for in summons?

[safe hazel]

hope for daimon always + GB but there are alternatives depending on box

[safe hazel]

@green badge

[trail prawn]

been stuck on this stage for a while

[twilit turtle]

@trail prawnshow the available heroes

[safe hazel]

maybe
silas
>rowan/grez
daimon
brutus
ferael

give ferael a legendary weapon btw

[polar whale]

Still stuck on this.

[primal mist]

Try Brutus across from Athalia

[primal mist]

Try swapping Brutus and Thoran. When Thoran revives, he should interrupt Isa again, because Nara will have died by then. Might take some retries but it should help

[polar whale]

I have like 100 tries with that.

[primal mist]

Oof

What weapon do you have on Fera? If you have mythic, try swapping down to a legendary instead - his fear will proc quicker

[polar whale]

This seems impossible for my current team. Probably just going to merc it tomorrow since from what I understand after this stage it gets a lot easier.

[polar whale]

Yea he's weaponless.

[primal mist]

Oh, making him weaponless doesn't do much. It's better to have L/L+ weapon on him, it won't mess up his attack order like a mythic weapon

What artifacts are you using?

[safe hazel]

yh that's fine maybe call on nara to pull faster

not sure about arti on oden tho but shouldn't matter cuz he'll probably die instantly

[primal mist]

Yeah, that's a problem. Blade and chalice are pretty meh, and virtually useless for frontline. You want Grace, or drape if you lack slots. You also want eye for Nara, in the hope that she crits on her pull and gets haste to stun Isa. Call can work for Nara too, but it can slow down Daimon so I don't liek it

[polar whale]

Yea the tanks never get to ult.

[safe hazel]

artis on thoran/brutus won't matter

[polar whale]

The other artifacts won't do anything, they just die instantly.

[safe hazel]

just retry with grace/call on nara

[primal mist]

Having grace for a smidge of dodge can help with rng if you're willing to put in 100 tries, like you have already

It works sometimes pre ch30 or so iirc, but an older player would have to give more precise info

You are also pushing really well considering your team's power, so this may well be your limit (barring obscene retries)

[polar whale]

Maybe if I had 20 SI Daimon, but I'm at 18 only.

[safe hazel]

yh maybe doable if you had +20 daimon that's good pushing without it tho

leave thoran's SI at +0 tho btw

[trail prawn]

@twilit turtle

[safe hazel]

rowan +30 would help a lot how many reds you got?

[trail prawn]

66. He's at +28

[safe hazel]

so you like 80 reds away then that's not too bad you'll get enough from next event

all I can suggest is afkhelper

since i'm not that good at daimon comp building with rowan I mainly just used daimon and eirron/ ainz comp

[trail prawn]

afk helper suugests this but prob high rng cuz ive done atleast 118 times iirc

[safe hazel]

any gear/level difference?

or do they have rowan +30 on the clear

[magic oriole]

Try changing eironn to someone else (like Nara for example)

[safe hazel]

nah eirron is good with daimon early game it'll probably end up much worse

[magic oriole]

I mean it's something to try. I've also had to change up things a lot to make Daimon work at times. Apparently front line Oden is also a thing lol

[safe hazel]

that's probably for the ppl who have A oden early lol

[magic oriole]

Me lol

[trail prawn]

same rc and daimon level and my daimon has highest tier gear available at my stage

[magic oriole]

1 star Oden was second hero I ascended after daimon

[safe hazel]

is his ferael level 240?

[trail prawn]

240

[safe hazel]

does he have rowan +30?

[trail prawn]

it doesnt show

[safe hazel]

that might be why then fera 240 is 2 spirits to 3 which makes a decent diff

[trail prawn]

I wish ppl on afk helper showed artifacts and sig

[safe hazel]

does he have the wings around rowan

[trail prawn]

yea

[magic oriole]

Then it's si30

[trail prawn]

ok

[safe hazel]

yh he has +30 rowan and 240 ferael that might be why

try and find other solutions on afkhelper as there is an abundance of them on afkhelper

[trail prawn]

ferael is now 240

[pale kettle]

Best combo with these guys?

[primal mist]

Thoran/Hogan/Mishka frontline, Daimon, Arden, Silvina backline. Check out the pins in #classic-questions for guides and advice

[pale kettle]

Thanks!

[primal mist]

np

[magic oriole]

Walker is pretty bad tho

[pale kettle]

Ok. I just started really, so I really don't know much lol

[magic oriole]

Yeah that's fine, just read the pins and you'll know everything you need. Walker is kind of a meme around here that's why I said it lol

[pale kettle]

😂 ok

[safe hazel]

What was the general formation you were using btw?

[tender crypt]

I’d mix in some cc to that to give Daimon time to ramp.

Also, be careful about taking heroes to L/L+ without extra copies.

[dense bane]

How can i clear this

[tender crypt]

You can get stuck at L and delay getting someone in that faction ascended (since the fodder you needed was used taking Daimon to L).

[zinc island]

This stage makes me want to shit.

Mirael is doing to much.🤦🏾‍♂️🤦🏾‍♂️

[radiant flax]

I need a solid second team for multifights. Sitting at 32-16 right now. Main Team (Albedo, Arthur, DaVinci, Rowan, Ainz) is doing fine and clearing first fights. Second fight is always a struggle though. Any solid comp i‘m not seeing?

[silk sentinel]

Can i beat this stage :P?

[zinc island]

Hm-

[zinc island]

I got off that chapter a few weeks ago.

[zinc island]

Show your box 😍😍.

[silk sentinel]

when u say box do u mean this?

[zinc island]

Yes

[zinc island]

Do you have an artifact yet?

[silk sentinel]

grace on damian eye on rosaline

[zinc island]

Kk.

Golus,Hogan,Daimon,Rosaline,(Mirael/Belinda/Lyca/Eirron)

Idk💀

That’s the team I used to pass when I did that level.

[amber beacon]

If you have Nara, use her to hook Mirael. It might also help to put Daimon in back middle in that strategy.

[zinc island]

Lyca saved me quite a bit, which is why I put haste on her.

[zinc island]

I don’t😭

If you want my box I can show you that😕

[amber beacon]

Try:
Lyca

Hogan
Eironn
Golus
Daimon.

You have a very soft lineup if you use Daimon as a tank. He's a carry.

[amber beacon]

Go ahead

[zinc island]

^^

[scarlet ridge]

having issues with the 2nd battle, first is fine. 2nd team gets melted by brutus / arden.

[zinc island]

Have you tried Golus or Grezhaul?

[subtle canyon]

Anyone who has beaten lvl 53 of forest mania, can u help? (I will send help requests)

[zinc island]

Crying

[harsh urchin]

Help pls

[burnt sky]

add me

[final hazel]

Three big damage dealers

Could try putting daimon in the back

[harsh urchin]

Ive tried that about 600k times

[harsh urchin]

Did u pass it and if u did how?

[tight pawn]

Swap daimon and fera then fera and lyca

[burnt sky]

ferael will die 3 seconds into the game cuz their ferael will suck your soul out

[zinc island]

Anyone help?

[whole smelt]

Need some help

[sleek delta]

Reset golus level to 120 then make daimon 160 if you have the rss to do so

[zinc island]

Kk

Never thought abt that 🤦🏾‍♂️😁

[nova aurora]

4 comps with what i have please

[daring pewter]

Hlep i keep losing

[zinc island]

Then why😃

[nova aurora]

Please

[zinc island]

I can’t help so sorry💀

I’m on chapter 11 🛏.

[sleek delta]

Daimon can 1v5 if he has the stats to do so. He's your carry, other 4 heroes are there to stall until daimon ramps up

[zinc island]

Kk

Could I use Rosaline to assist Daimon.

[nova aurora]

@potent citrus help please

I stopped playing for a while so im completely out of the meta

But its working ig

[potent citrus]

Your box?

Let me see it

[zinc island]

They one shotted the others..

[pale kettle]

Any suggestions?

[nova aurora]

Box?

[potent citrus]

All your heroes

[potent citrus]

Yup I can see you're old player

[nova aurora]

I am

[potent citrus]

Stage?

[nova aurora]

35-08

[potent citrus]

I can only see three comps

[nova aurora]

Yep thats the problem heh

[potent citrus]

Which is eironn 5 pull
Daimon cheese
And full gb

Gaze lucretia

[nova aurora]

Gb is?

[potent citrus]

Graveborn

[nova aurora]

I am

[potent citrus]

Nice

Get lucretia to M with +30 sig and you got a 4th team

[nova aurora]

Sure

[potent citrus]

You can slap anyone and she will work

[nova aurora]

Tyvm

[potent citrus]

Np . Also try to get ainz and albedo in garrison

You need a 5th one

[zinc island]

..

[sleek delta]

You can put daimon front, remove hogan. Also remove angelo. Put lyca instead

[zinc island]

Big fat flop😍

[silk ibex]

Lyca

Golus
Daimon

Show your box so I can see more options

[polar whale]

I did not.

[wise bluff]

yes

[silk ibex]

Put Brutus in RC and start using him instead of Golus, he's your best Tank

[zinc island]

Kk

Also, I only have 2 artis💀💀🤦🏾‍♂️

[silk ibex]

Ascend your Arden btw, you can get him to E+

Reset Lyca and start levelling and getting Arden to L+

Also stop using Smart Ascend if you are

[zinc island]

I’m not😭

I’m scared to do so.

[zinc island]

Who else would I use💀

[zinc island]

also, that Arden is the same on that’s lvl 120🕳

I never get Arden

[pale kettle]

Any suggestion?

[silk ibex]

Are you sure? Was the second screenshot an old one?

[silk ibex]

Hook Isabelle/Shemira, try Oden for faster energy gain from Daimon

[zinc island]

Positive.💀💀

[pale kettle]

:o okay

[polar whale]

Merc it. After 20-12 levels start dropping.

I have like 300 tries with no success.

[pale kettle]

:o

[exotic tinsel]

hi im new, just started. should i build around Izold?

stuck at 6-35, frontline gets owned

[daring pewter]

Hlep pls i keep dying

[dusk ivy]

What should my lineup be and what should I build up?

[silk burrow]

pins in #classic-questions

[pale kettle]

Any ideas?

So....the tasi what do I do against her

[radiant flax]

Bump

[fiery wing]

alna gb r2 lucretia r3 and the rest are fine, do macro if needed

[fiery wing]

my best advice is to go Gb team and invest on Raku right away with M+30 then go for windbinder 3*

[radiant flax]

Got Arthur fused to izold and davinci to daimon, should i switch one of them (daimon) so he is free to use in second fight? And put Raku with team then?
And whats m30?

[fiery wing]

mythic with signature item +30

[radiant flax]

Ah ok, and then put him on gb team Yea?

[silent moss]

first team can drop rowan and use lyca and then you can use rowan in second team so you have a healer then use brutus daimon rowan and then 2 other gbs for the time being of course

[fiery wing]

raku has its own team

gb team is a whole team itself

ainz team is a whole team itself

so yea ez 3 teams

[radiant flax]

Switched lyca and rowan 👌🏻

[radiant flax]

Gb team with rowan got me through second fight, thanks! Working on raku now

[silent moss]

noice noice glad it worked, ainz arthur and albedo and eventually merlin can be a team of 4 when you get to 3 teams so then you can free up lyca and rowan for other teams

[radiant flax]

Will have merlin soon 👍🏻

[fiery wing]

follow me for clears similar to ur comp and might investments you'll look out for 131715563

[potent citrus]

Get more haste to your daimon

That's what you need to do if you wanna fight tasi with daimon

[pale kettle]

Thanks I tried larson also he worked

[daring pewter]

Pls hlep i keep dying

[polar whale]

Help.

[dense bane]

how can i do thiiis??

[harsh urchin]

How did u do 12

[polar whale]

I used a merc for that.

[harsh urchin]

Oh

[polar whale]

I think most people do, it's really hard.

[idle oriole]

level mirael as ur carry

[pale kettle]

12 is the hardest in chapter 20

[pale kettle]

Tasi op

[polar whale]

[pale kettle]

Try playing daimon front with lyca at the bottom

To melt that tree guy quick

U can also try using Arden for stalling

[polar whale]

This is literally what I'm trying now

There is just infinite healing. My Daimon ulted like 7 times and it still wasn't enough.

[dense bane]

should i not use daimon as carry?

BRUH 2 isabella????

[idle oriole]

Ur daimon is E. L+ mirael is better for u xd. Get her 141 with rosa in same team worked well for me

[dense bane]

alright i'll try ;>

[pale kettle]

Change rowan for something more offensive

[dense bane]

bruh i dont have enough dust or exp lmao

i need 2k more dust

[modern kelp]

Anyone have a non-thoran cheese for 39-19 ?

[idle oriole]

Rip, in the future save up the dust/exp bags/chests for when u need to increase level cap

[dim bluff]

I cant figure out the lineup for this need help please

[faint current]

Try Mishka Wukong Baba Raku Lyca

In 12345 position order

If it doesn’t work the first time it won’t work btw, no RNG in trials

[dim bluff]

Like always the second i posted for help i figured it out tyvm anyway

[faint current]

Sure thing

[pale kettle]

Any suggestions?

[pale kettle]

Swap Brutus and thoran

And maybe use Raine instead of ferael

[idle oriole]

Only saw now but cleared it swapping daimon nd ferael, ty tho

[pale kettle]

[wheat wigeon]

how to beat this stage?

[wet lodge]

Got Desira to 309 today. What is the most optimal use of her in Heroes or Esperia? 🤔

[pale kettle]

try oden, it helps me stun the enemy which is why u saw me burst, ferael if he fears is great too so maybe:
ferael

daimon
oden
brutus
nara

if it lands onto ur daimon swap positions, u want the thingy behind him to hit it while the enemy targets brutus and not daimon soak dmg

Rip they all get wiped out I will try seeing if Larson works

u need displacement fs + a stunner imo

eironn?

Nope don't have him

[idle oriole]

Could try daimon opposite shem and then putting ferael/lyca in the middle instead of raine. I guess it depends if ur ferael can fear first. If not it’s kinda pointless

[pale kettle]

^^

fear is one of the best things imo provided he can fear

[pale kettle]

hook the ferael?

[keen abyss]

Help pwease UwU

[idle oriole]

Tried earlier but belinda 1 shots everyone will try again tho

[idle oriole]

Have u read Tree3’s beginner guide in the pins in #classic-questions ?

[jovial shuttle]

Yes

[safe hazel]

daimon
>brutus
rowan
>lyca/thoran
oden

[idle oriole]

Ty will try

[jovial shuttle]

Just tried with wu kong and still lost idk what to do

[idle oriole]

If he’s lvl 100 he should carry for the next chapter or so maybe more

[safe hazel]

wu kong should be 20 levels ahead of the rest

[jovial shuttle]

I have lvl80 wu kong

[silk sentinel]

stuck on 11-22 any ideas how i could pass?

[buoyant spoke]

help pls

[idle oriole]

Thx it worked

[safe hazel]

np

[idle oriole]

I literally just beat the same team 4 stages ago now I don’t even get close after 30mins retrying 🥲

[safe hazel]

nah thoran is probably better that early

brutus only has 3 secs of immunity before lvl 141

doesn't matter too much that is decent just ascend 5 fodder to L+ and power level daimon for now]

[pale kettle]

Help please, isabella gets me(as usual) or silvia burst-kills daimon bc his shield got down 🥲 right after isabella gets killed during ult

[safe hazel]

swap brutus and talene then talene for lyca

[pale kettle]

ill try retry spamming not working atm :(

[idle oriole]

Swap ferael and daimon while also what asta said

[safe hazel]

how did you get daimon to A I thought you only had him M before?

[pearl cargo]

Is there any chance I could pass this stage?

[safe hazel]

have you read pinned guide in #classic-questions ?

[silk sentinel]

help

[pale kettle]

Oh didnt see that

[pale kettle]

got hogan to L+ so i sacrificed niru and used hcp chest drop from ch12 to make him A

[pearl cargo]

Yes I did

[safe hazel]

take lucius out of your rc and put ferael in

[safe hazel]

try
daimon
>hogan
trial
>talene
silvina

[pale kettle]

:(

[pearl cargo]

Thanks that worked

[safe hazel]

np

[pale kettle]

My daimon and nara combined cannot kill Arden what fucking black magic is that

The oden teleports the tree to the top so I isolate Arden

They get wiped out straight away not much rng left

[pale kettle]

Remove rowan and use nara for Belinda

And maybe swap position of Brutus and thoran

Any ideas once the Arden ults it is over

[royal stag]

Use Nara against him

[pale kettle]

Doesent work old man doesent die even when daimon and nara attack him together

Black magic

[south bridge]

Help me

[quaint pawn]

Having trouble beating this campaign, anyone got any suggestions for a lineup using these characters

[south bridge]

Do this @quaint pawn

@quaint pawn

If it doesn’t work use the flame girl instead of shamira

Or the new dimensional

@quaint pawn

[safe hazel]

swap daimon and golus

[quaint pawn]

tx guys!

[quaint pawn]

thank you so much it worked!

[south bridge]

No prob

[idle oriole]

Belinda one shots everyone. ferael arden nd nara insta die so can’t use them 🥲. I beat the same formation earlier in the chapter with this team but not getting close now

[south bridge]

Can’t suggest anything but change the thoren to something else

[idle oriole]

Alright ty

[south bridge]

No prob

[safe hazel]

@split prairie I cleared it just now with ainz btw just confused how daimon would do anything here without rowan +30

[polar whale]

Help, last stage.

[safe hazel]

swap daimon and nara then nara for lyca

[polar whale]

This is too doomed. Team is dead instantly.

Guess I'm stuck here until next Sunday.

[jovial shuttle]

Why untill mext sunday?

[polar whale]

Mercenary.

[mental sun]

I was thinking of replacing someone w framton

[split prairie]

@safe hazelYou'd have to identify a few things ( I can't tell you based off the picture I'd have to watch the fight) but first I'd figure out who silvinia jumps, and then who nemora tries to charm, Personally depending on who silvinia was jumping, I'd probably put fareal where eironn is and swap eironn for nara but i'd have to play the fight but that's where I wouldve started.

I'd most likely use grace on daimon for the fight in the beginning to see where he's at with his shield, but gratz on getting past

[safe hazel]

rosa SI +0 helped a lot forgot she was decent

[split prairie]

@safe hazel eh she can be helpful but it depends on where you are/ when. You've got the lineup to get to multis - actually you have 3 possible teams so ch 32 or 33 shouldn't be out of your reach

[safe hazel]

what would be my 3rd?

i think I could get charm going but id need to put daimon in there

I just need a copy of mehira and rowan +30 and I have 170 reds

[split prairie]

@safe hazeldaimon/ainz/ and id go w/ fareal

[safe hazel]

how would fera be a comp?

[split prairie]

@safe hazel remember- multis don't just ramp up out the get go, it's been a minute but iirc it goes ch 31- two teams, 1 ascended, 1 weak. Ch 32 two teams, both ascended, then ch 33 two ascended, 1 weak progressively getting stronger

[safe hazel]

k I just need to get there lol

[mental sun]

@split prairie any ideas so I can improve my line up?

[split prairie]

@mental sun what's your current resource pool for guild coins, lab coins, and hero?

[mental sun]

How do I show em?

For the coins I've been told to save for babas exchange

[split prairie]

@mental sun go to the baba yaga exchange screen like this

@mental sunI know you have, but depending on what you have that may be shit advice

[mental sun]

I get to 15

So I need to grind tbh

[split prairie]

@mental sunwtf have you been buying??

[mental sun]

Idek

[split prairie]

have you been doing lab every other day?

[mental sun]

I j think I don't be doing the stuffs

[split prairie]

ahh, you need to do labs and guild fights as much as you can so that you have the resources

[mental sun]

What do I do after?

And for guild stuff I'm hitting like 3m max

[safe hazel]

don't buy anything from hero shop

at all ever you only want it for dim exchanges or garrison

[split prairie]

anyhow, for your team i'd take out silas/morrow- they aren't doing you a whole lot of good atm, Id use oden and arden/lyca instead

[safe hazel]

lab don't buy arthur for now since you need all you can get

[mental sun]

Oh alr bc silas has been healing the whole team pretty well and I can't find a better healer

[mental sun]

I did like once

[safe hazel]

yh arthur is good but you might be tight on lab coins for dim exchange they come slowly without FoS nodes

[split prairie]

@mental sun I wouldnt worry about healing at your point, just dps/cc I'd go with talene/lyca--- oden,silvina (reset hogan, and get silvinia to 160) and arden

[mental sun]

What abt getting the rest of my heros to 140?

[split prairie]

so like

---oden
-------talene
---silvinia
-------lyca
---arden/flex

@mental sun carry hero 40 levels above the rest unless you're breaking a cap

[mental sun]

/flex?

[mental sun]

Alr

[split prairie]

flex means that the position can be a multitude of different heroes, normally a cc type

I say arden cause his roots will still be beneficial for you for some time

[mental sun]

Alr so arden or do I use like diamon or someone like that bc they are both e+

[split prairie]

@mental sun an e arden will be more beneficial than an e daimon for ya, pretty much your dps will wind up being talene/silvinia until you get more pulls and see where rng takes you. the rest are there just to see that they can do the damage

@mental sun Don't do anything with ascension- you don't have enough (or right type I should say) to do that

[placid plover]

Help me

[mental sun]

Yeah I had the ogi which seemed good but the rest seems too useful for an l+ arden

[split prairie]

@placid plover swap rowan for oden and tell me who oden drops on who- please

[mental sun]

Also the rest of my box

[split prairie]

@safe hazel this is what i meant earlier

[mental sun]

Incase it helps in some way

[placid plover]

He is dead

[split prairie]

@mental sun make sure you put lyca on your rc

[safe hazel]

ok that doesn't seem too bad then

[mental sun]

Alr

[mental sun]

Now I'm gonna need to farm light armor lmao

[split prairie]

@placid plover that's fine, turn off 4x speed and see who he portals, if he can't get it off in pos 5, swap him and daimon (so oden behind brutus) and see then

@mental sun she doesnt need gear, she's just there for haste, you're going to be using her for quite a while at e or e+ rng pending

[mental sun]

Oh alr

[mental sun]

Results

I have purple or higher armor on everyone except lyca

[safe hazel]

you need a dmg dealer maybe daimon/mirael will work

[mental sun]

I have an e daimon atm but not really a spot for him

[placid plover]

Estrilda

[safe hazel]

mirael?

[split prairie]

@placid ploverwho is she being dropped on/ having dropped on her? need to know the order

[mental sun]

Less than e for sure lemme check

[placid plover]

Lucius

[mental sun]

Yeah I don't get a lot of her for whatever reason

[split prairie]

@mental sunswap talene/lycas position and swap silvinia/oden

[mental sun]

Alr

[split prairie]

silvinia should jump mireal, lyca should die by estrilda, and hopefully oden will portal golus onto mireal then talene should ult- arden should do arden things. Might need to swap oden/arden, but try that a few times to see who does what

[mental sun]

Did it an it worked

[split prairie]

@placid plover lucious is being dropped on estrilda?

[placid plover]

Estrilda*

[split prairie]

if lucious is being dropped on estrilda I'd give brutus/lyca---- oden, daimon, nara a go

oden
------brutus
daimon
------lyca
nara

First thing I'd try

[placid plover]

Thx

[mental sun]

I've just been handled like 20 times lmao

[split prairie]

gotta change formations to fit the fight 😛

[mental sun]

I've tried shaping Oden and silvina Oden and arden lyca and talene and everything in-between

Estrilda makes me wanna cry lowkey

[buoyant spoke]

help pls

[split prairie]

@mental sunid need to see what you're looking at

@buoyant spokelyca/brutus --rosa/ainz/daimon

[mental sun]

Imma Sr the fight

[split prairie]

who does oden drop on to who

[mental sun]

No matter what I do he won't drop on est

[split prairie]

put oden where arden is, put arden where silvania is, and put silvania behind lyca

[mental sun]

Alr

[split prairie]

silvania may or may not insta die but need to know for sure to really help you

[buoyant spoke]

no))

[split prairie]

@buoyant spoke lyca/brutus- frontline you know what 1 sec

rosa
------lyca
ainz
-----brutus
daimon

need to know who silvania jumps on

[buoyant spoke]

[split prairie]

is silvania jumping rosa behind lyca, and is daimon getting pulled by ezizh

[buoyant spoke]

they are not improved

[split prairie]

yes, that's why im asking the questions, is silvania jumping rosa, and is your daimon getting pulled by ezizh

[buoyant spoke]

and how then to pass?

[split prairie]

@buoyant spoketry

daimon
-----brutus
ainz
------lyca
rosa

[buoyant spoke]

maybe instead of brutus antandru it is better improved

[split prairie]

@buoyant spoke what's the battle stats for that last formation look like

[mental sun]

Does this work

[buoyant spoke]

rose for whom to cling

[split prairie]

@buoyant spoke daimon if you want to put someone but it doesn't really matter, I only suggested her to be bait for silvania

[buoyant spoke]

lyca,?

ok

[split prairie]

@mental sun Honestly you can probably rng that out

[mental sun]

Oh alr

[mental sun]

Time for 50 more goes

[split prairie]

@buoyant spoke who is he enemy silvania attacking?

[buoyant spoke]

first face ainz rose

first lyca*

[harsh urchin]

Dont pay attention the the current lineup its just smth random but anyone know what to do here?

[buoyant spoke]

Lucius puts up a shield and I can't do anything

[split prairie]

@mental sun if it doesn't work with 10 or so tries, needs to be changed s bit

[mental sun]

Yeah I've done it 20 lmao

[buoyant spoke]

[split prairie]

@mental suntry swapping silvania and lycas position

[buoyant spoke]

(

[opal arrow]

anything i could do here?

[zinc island]

Help.

[placid plover]

Help

[idle oriole]

read beginner guides in the pins in #classic-questions

[mental sun]

Been an hour tried every combination I could think of

[exotic tinsel]

Hi guys, i dont have daimon. Am using Izold as my carry atm. Will Eironn be better with the heroes i have?

[buoyant spoke]

а че где аура?

[idle oriole]

Mirael once u can get her to L+

[strange tide]

Any lineup help here

[pseudo hill]

Is it impractical to use Shemira and Daimon at the same time?

[idle oriole]

I mean not necessarily, but u should try make daimon main carry as soon as possible I guess. Shem has fallen off pretty hard xd

[pseudo hill]

From what point in the game does Shem fall off?

[idle oriole]

She’s just not good in general anymore. If ur a returning player maybe read the beginner guides in the pins in #classic-questions to get familiar with the new meta

My box was very similar to yours 2 years ago before I stopped playing on my old acc lol

[idle oriole]

[drifting valley]

lemme see your faction bags please

@idle oriole

[unreal plover]

I’m stuck here any suggestions?

[drifting valley]

@idle oriole try replacing Nara with Rowan in the middle backline, and move Daimon to where Oden is. Try replacing Brutus with Lyca and tell me how it goes.

[idle oriole]

Alr will do

[idle oriole]

Thoran died before daimon could ult so switched him with Brutus. Still getting rolled tho. Arden roots rly annoying

[drifting valley]

If you can, try and yank arden over with Eironn, or you could try Rain to stun him at the beginning.

[unreal plover]

Beat that level stuck on this one now

[idle oriole]

Replace Rowan with one of them I guess?

[rough frigate]

I need to start using 2 teams now (31-4) idk what to do

[silent moss]

just use whatever you arnt using for your main team the second team is easier for the time being so you should be able to put things together for it to work

[rough frigate]

How can I farm more gear? I don’t really have enough to go around for 2 teams and with baba Yago I don’t think I can spend any guild coins :/

[silent moss]

you have 2 months to save up 40k guild coins for baba yaga so get gear when you feel like it just save that much

[fervent compass]

I don’t know what team formations to use. PoP fell off for me. Now idk what line ups to use

[silent moss]

unlock/upgrade his signature item and you should be fine

[novel star]

Ideas?

Tried nara instead of lyca too and it didnt work

[silent moss]

is your mishka dying to vurks poison traps?

[novel star]

probably

that or warek/arden

[silent moss]

do you have althalia so youll keep the 4 faction bonus?

[novel star]

nope

can get down to brutus/warek vs raku but brutus's sheild hasn't popped

lucius is the problem with his heals

[stark arrow]

Whats a good baba lineup?

Do we know yet?

[silent moss]

i got nothing youve done all i can think of to try unless you youve used gorvo for even more stuns

[silent moss]

ask questions they may know

[novel star]

Yeah I tried that and lucius always survives with little health and ults

may just merc ngl

[sour fjord]

This 39-8 is practically impossible,
I tried everything but nothing is working so damn bad

Can someone help please ??

[harsh urchin]

Pls help

[silent moss]

thoran cheese isnt working?

[fiery wing]

cheesing kaz is really hard tho make sure you have enough accuracy to hit her may take some time

[harsh urchin]

@drifting valley

This one is giving me pain

[pale kettle]

Use tasi and she should vanish the Gwyn

[drifting valley]

This is a little experimenting so if it doesn’t work on like the third try, don’t worry and just come back.

[pale kettle]

Instead of mortes

[harsh urchin]

It feels like ive tried everything about 6 times already

[drifting valley]

Take out thoran and put Talene there. Switch Talene and Brutus’ spots like this.

[pale kettle]

Try one damage dealer and Silas or take the thoran and put daimon Infront

[drifting valley]

Brutus can stall Grez for at least a few seconds, and Talene will probably die to Niru, giving secondary damage to anyone around her.

@harsh urchin dm’s

[blissful needle]

Hi guys can u help me plz? 20-12
Mb i need to put smth to crystal

[verbal blade]

Any ideas? I could lvl up pop a little bit more

[drifting valley]

interesting, do you take breaks from afk? You have Prince.

[zinc island]

Help😍

[west walrus]

Time to use my nonexistent mastery in making comps

[silk ibex]

@west walrus Copying this exact comp, Barricade on Daimon, weaponless Ferael

[west walrus]

Oh you're on 30-4. Did you beat the Baden?

[silk ibex]

Yeah, both times I barely scraped by

[mental glen]

brutus with barricade and call still on daimon

[west walrus]

Send your positioning and arti, like the battle page

[mental glen]

idk how weaponless ferael works but I usually have a mythic/legendary+ weapon on ferael

[silk ibex]

Mythic Agi weapons have a hidden Haste buff that make Ferael do an extra skill before Fear, making the animation slower than "Normal Attack > Fear"

[verbal blade]

Wym

[west walrus]

Brutus on Barricade. Daimon on Call. Thoran on Grace would be so troll tbh. Oden eye is fine

[mental glen]

that is fine because you want to fear different skills and fear enemy ferael

[sour fjord]

Nah not working

[west walrus]

Try running Rowan instead of Thoran and let him get fucked by Nara.

[silk ibex]

Enemy Ferael has higher haste than mine so his animation is still slower than "Normal Attack > Fear" for now

[sour fjord]

What should i do

[west walrus]

Fix gear mostly

[sour fjord]

Not working

[fiery wing]

show gear

[silk ibex]

If I give Barricade to Brutus Ferael dies instantly. That's why I put it on Daimon

[sour fjord]

All have T2 and T3

[sour fjord]

Most of them T3 and some are T2

[west walrus]

Oh btw you should run Royal's solution. Unless you wanna run this exact same Grez solution for the next 2 bosses (all the bosses are just repeats of each other). The RNG is like nonexistent

[west walrus]

Try Rowan if Fera gonna die anyways

[royal stag]

39-8 r2 ?

[silk ibex]

@west walrus Rowan lasts longer but this time it's Brutus' problem. 7 seconds isn't enough for him to stall for Thoran and Daimon to do their things

[west walrus]

Swap frontline

[fiery wing]

the accuracy of that chest really matters especially when cheesing kaz

[sour fjord]

@fiery wing The problem when i use alna grezhul , grezhul just dies he is e41 9/9 +30 all T3

[west walrus]

I ran it at 309 with no engravings and at like 60 higher deficit than you. But I used a better solution.

@sour fjord https://afkhelper.nax.is/images/chapters/39-8_1643599857.webp

[sour fjord]

@fiery wing

[west walrus]

[barren zealot]

My suggestion:

[sour fjord]

@west walrus this thoran team not working for me don’t know why ??

[fiery wing]

yea you need e chest for accuracy and helm for extra dmg

[west walrus]

Probably cuz your deficit is insufferably low

[west walrus]

You HAVE to run something else. No way in hell you're Thoran cheesing an Orthros at 120 deficit unless you're committed to retry it for like 30 hours.

[silk ibex]

Instant death

[sour fjord]

@fiery wing @west walrus i am in a really bad situation this thoran cheese is too shitty

[west walrus]

Your deficit is shitty. Just use Ainz

[barren zealot]

From who? Shemira?

[sour fjord]

@west walrus ainz is used in first comp i will try taking him out

[silk ibex]

Everyone gets one-shot.

@west walrus Daimon can't punch through Hendrik nor Thoran to get to the backline

[west walrus]

Link with Lorsan. Probably Hendrik. So Lorsan 5

Rowan Brutus Daimon Thoran Lorsan.

[silk ibex]

Even if he does Shemira Ults and it's over. She really is just Isabelle but worse

[west walrus]

Shemira ulting is RNG. Cuz Daimon shield

You'll experience this kind of interaction later when you're forced to Daimon a Flora (bane of all humanity)

[silk ibex]

Why is Shemira Ult RNG?

[west walrus]

Ult feeds shield which feeds Daimon, Daimon burst ult over and over again

[barren zealot]

You have Nara?

[fiery wing]

i did raku charm daimon vs a flora i took me hours

[worldly osprey]

What do I do ????? I can't win I did everything

[silk ibex]

@west walrus Will it help if I T2 all of Daimon's gear? It's going to Grez and Arthur anyway

[sour fjord]

@west walrus it worked but i am now having problem with 1st team 😂😂 but it’s easier now

[west walrus]

👌

[worldly osprey]

I want to finish ch 14 already I spent a full 2 days in it and in chapter 13 I finished it in an hour

[west walrus]

Yes.

[zinc island]

.

What do I do.😍😍

[fiery wing]

nara the isabella

[fiery wing]

show full box

[barren zealot]

When do you have to Daimon and Flora stage?

[west walrus]

One of the -48s

[mental glen]

gear is important, I think all of my clears in chp 30 have t2 5 star faction gear for daimon and t3 weapon and boots for raku

[silk ibex]

Somehow that felt like a bigger spike than 3F...

[barren zealot]

Chapter 48?

[sour fjord]

@west walrus it fucckin worked you’re a beast man ,, thanks so much

[worldly osprey]

Yep don't have nara

[west walrus]

Np

[silk ibex]

@west walrus Seems like I'm stuck on every stage. It seems way too early for me to be dealing with this level of difficulty

[raven egret]

Daimon

Rowan
Grez
Thoran
Fera.
That’s what I’d run

[worldly osprey]

Let me try that

Oh ya question what unit should I give what artifact like dura grace

[raven egret]

Daimon wants energy over anything else, beyond that I don’t know much

[silk ibex]

Okay this guy is fucking insane. His Daimon has to have T3 gear or something

[worldly osprey]

Ok

[fiery wing]

fereal/silas

thoran
eirron
brutus
daimon

[mental glen]

what rc level are you at right now?

[silk ibex]

Why does everyone and their mom have A Eironn

[fiery wing]

i mean you dont need to just more tries

[mental glen]

old meta

[silk ibex]

@mental glen Great, so by not following an old meta I'm stuck. Greaaat. Some new meta this is

[fiery wing]

eirron was a go to carry back then

[mental glen]

I think afk guide says to do daimon or eironn early game carry

[worldly osprey]

Didn't work sads

[fiery wing]

you dont really need eirron A tbh as long as he can pull enemies youre fine

[worldly osprey]

Is errion good for like ch 14 or is he a late game unit?

[fiery wing]

yes he is good for pull bot and a carry on wilder tower

[mental glen]

https://afk.guide/afk-arena-tier-list/ this one @silk ibex

[silk ibex]

I don't have Agi gear investment, he's not gonna outpull that Nara at Ch30 level Haste

[fiery wing]

well i did switched to daimon rowan fereal at ch30

[mental glen]

well do you have t2 int gear? @silk ibex

[silk ibex]

Show solution to 30-4 lol

[fiery wing]

i did eirron A by ch31

[silk ibex]

I have both on Oden and Rowan, Weapon and Boots only

[mental glen]

well eironn and daimon can duo carry so it works out for chp 30

[zinc island]

The > is confusing me

[fiery wing]

it means frontline

[mental glen]

is oden factional? it might be worth considering t3 gear for carries

[silk ibex]

I'm probably not gonna do Int gear first as my T3

I noticed something buggy with Stitchy's AI

Every so often Stitchy turns around and hits the air, dealing no damage to anything. Essentially wasting 1 attack for no reason

[sour fjord]

https://www.reddit.com/r/afkarena/comments/smamy1/398_no_thoran_crystal_level_464_the_ultimate/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf

The ultimate solution for 39-8 for anyone in need

[silk ibex]

@mental glen Do you think it's possible to Thoran-cheese 30-5?

[mental glen]

I made all of t2 gear on my daimon into grez t3 so I'm ready for grez but since I made shemira so no fodder. I will probably build grez later. ferael L+, grez and oden still e+.

[silk ibex]

Warek Estrilda Nara Fawkes Belinda

[worldly osprey]

Yassssss I finally found my formation

[mental glen]

maybe I didn't try it. I guess your only problem would be fawkes coffin

[silk ibex]

@west walrus After several retries I've finally determined the only way to beat this is to AFK for 3 months and come back to fight this while I'm overleveled.