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How has the healer dine the most damage then
Everyone*
Give me a moment. I'll try my best. Send your wishlist as well
You had 2 Atalene, that’s legit XD
I cant figure out the problem tuck
She's still gonna be stuck at L 140 tho :^)
Check the pinned comments under questions channel. That gives a pretty standard gazing order
Try putting Call on Arden if Ferael's CC'ing earlier than Arden
ok
What I did was just brute force it with saurus on my acc 😂
Rickety cart: reset Flora for 20 diamonds, give her exp to Hogan L+, not joking. Build another L+ 3-skill hero, then reset awakened talene and give her exp to that hero.
Boom two heroes built risk free, that will be later used to make Mythic heroes, and now your RC can go to lvl 160
Fereals cc is his fear right?
Terrify
I wanna see your team then cuz it might be gear cuz I don't think my box is that messed up
It's my 5th day playing and I've already ascended 2 people and made mythic 2 others
3 chapters because of gear?
Gear is important
i sent wishlist
You have a higher rc crystal then me
Yeah so level?
Yup
Do what
Level.
Our rc differnce is litterally 20
Lightbearer: Take Lucius and Gwyneth off, replace with Estrilda and Raine. You can get 1 copy of Cecilia first but entirely optional.
Mauler: Take Safiya, Brutus and Thesku off. Replace with Numisu, Skreg and Skriath.
Wilder: Take Saurus, Respen and Tasi off, replace with Mishka, Raku and Lyca. You can pull 1 copy of Tasi if you want. Make sure you have at least 1 Lyca beforehand.
Graveborn: Take Shemira and Silas off, replace with Oden and Grezhul
Also. The major reason you messed up is you Ascended a ton of Heroes to L and L+ without being able to take them to M or A. You spread your resources extremely thin instead of focusing them on the few important Heroes you need.
Just out of curiosity how much did you spend? If you don’t feel like sharing just ignore I know some ppl like to keep that private.
I only spent 20 dollars
Your fingers hurt.
I gotcha. I wonder how you already got 2A heroes in 5 days, I’m probably just not thinking of an event or something
Now they really fucking hurt. Or maybe I've come full circle and have learnt to ignore the pain
Well my mentor is number one from another sever so he helped me get them ascended with some advice
Maybe Solemn Vow gives more than I think
ok
Typing immunity
The number one person in my sever has 3 full teams of ascended
Bro what server are u in
950
Thats some ass server
It's not difficult after 3-4 months of playing as F2P since you gain A Heroes exponentially as you play
Imagine the nr1 in your server only has 3 teams of ascended
Not every mentor is good at the game. Scarlet isn't bad to get to A. Nor is Rowan, but the SI and WL and all that are mismanaged to say the least.
3 full teams of 5 star ascend in 5 days is ass to you?
That server isn’t 3-4 months old. It’s like 5-9 days old
You don't even have o e ascended my guy what are you saying
Whale it is
They mean it’s tough to compete in
The birth of new whales
No need to get aggressive, you misunderstand what they’re saying.
They’re saying pvp is going to be difficult to get top spots Bc ultra high spenders are there already.
Just because someone isn't a spender doesn't mean they don't know what they're talking about. At least vmr has some level of understanding of the basics.
I'm in the top 10 every leaderbored for my sever rn
Or both
I've seen whaleboxes at Ch32 who haven't even glanced at WL guides or even have a single copy of Twins
Ch 15 in top 10 just sounds so weird
Goes to show the competition in that server is non-existent
I mean the server is only 5 days old
Still sounds weird tho
Well the top 5 and are already in chapter 30
I wish they jumbled older server together
The number one is 37-45 I think rn
Have a mixed pool for each region, so people don't end up countering the exact same people in the exact same way over and over again
BRUH
There is 30 and 28
Imagjne being at ch 37 nearly 38 in 5 days
Not gonna happen probs
Because all those alts would just be gone
Help.
Travis scott would say "its lit" but its not
How far are you from Daimon SI20
I think 37 golds
Hey guys, i've had the game for a week now, and this is the most stuck i've gotten. Can anyone recommend a better lineup and/or changes to my box? I've read most of the guides and stuff, but most of it goes over my head
Why don't you put talene in the front and daimon in back
Talene I feel like should be front
Nah shes not tanky enough to be in front tbh
I've been switching everyone, this is just my default
Try swapping rowan and daimon
If not try and replace rowan with hogan
Also take your 20 levels out of the red haired mauler girl
I figured the 20 levels probably wasn't worth 20 diamonds, but ok
You're doing very well for someone who had the guides "go over their head". In fact you get my 
Finally someone that levels the right way
My sanity is restored by you and you have my gratitude
Putting Rowan in front got him killed right away, but daimon lasted longer. Hogan in either position ended quickly
Thanks, I like to be efficient, so reading up is what I do
Whos the one with the most damage
Daimon is your carry, his job isn't to tank damage for you. One thing I will advise tho, as soon as you get an E+ Golus, reset Saveas for him.
You're missing a decent frontline, Thoran works but he won't last long. A downside to using him is that enemies ignore him while he's reviving.
Also, Lyca can work in the front as a sacrificial unit since all she needs to do is exist in your formation
Yeah I hadn't read bok's guide before tonight, that's my plan
Im still using thoran 😁
Lyca didn't go so well. I'm kind of treating Talene and Mirael as my carries, just learned how good daimon is tonight
I'm assuming your set your wishlist correctly? It looks a little bit like you read an online tier list with the amount of Saurus and Shemira copies you have
@silk ibex i need 33 golds for +20
And yes Daimon is your boi. He's the best carry for early to mid
Daimon stuck at 140 for me until I get dupes, learning patience lol
Set it to tree3's guide until today where I changed it to bok's guide recommendation, the Shemira I got randomly 3 in one pull, never been on my wishlist
I was wondering if anyone saw a hero I could swap in for Daimon carry until I get dupes or any heros that'll help me get through chapter 12, I'm stuck at 12-14. Heros are below
Same with Saurus, randomly got him 3 times yesterday
except for gwnyeth pack and $1.99 pack when I was weak I'm f2p I don't plan on spending anytime soon
Ah, so the game decided to troll you as well. I've never put Shemira on my wishlist for a single second and I'm at my 13th copy.
Stop Ascending Heroes to L without being able to take them to M/A
That aside, you have all the units to make a good campaign team.
So she's not useful anymore? all the old stuff from 2 years ago is singing her praise\
And like that you've found the noobtrap. Shemira is bottom-tier amongst the Graveborns right now. She has one use for one boss and even that can be easily glossed over by hiring a Shemira Mercenary from an older player.
Yeah I read that advice after I already did but I don't intend on doing it anymore lol, thanks for the reply I'll just work on these units and wait for the dupes
I figured she was bad now that no one has mentioned her in years
Lyca Brutus frontline.
Daimon Ferael Rowan back. Rowan middle back. Don't equip Mythic weapons on Ferael
Aside from that your flex options are Oden, Nara and Thoran. Rarely Eironn.
With these Heroes I listed you can make it to where I currently am
With a bit more gear Rowan can have enough dodge to Frontline
The idea that she can be used as fodder is now on the table, that's how far she's fallen from grace.
Damn, that's far
So I've been messing with my lineup and still can't get it, just dying in a couple hits doing little damage. I am at 57% attack power on this stage, so maybe just afk and wait to lvl up??
Try putting your best gear on Hogan or Thoran and tanking Khasos and Saveas. Move Daimon to the back and have CC Heroes like Arden and healers like Rowan stall for Daimon to Ult.
whooo wrong chat but since I just asked, literally got a daimon dupe off a friends summon lol
Your goal is to stall so Daimon can snowball, even if the rest of the team gets wiped in the process
Any suggestions? Lyca, Eirron, Arden seem to burst and cc nearly everyone. Luc doesn’t really survive long enough to snowball and if she does she getting stalled out by Brutus invulnerability
What Chapter are you at
thanks a ton! I'm going to save this so I can remember
I"m chapter 12 stage 15 but need another dupe to get daimon to food level for daimon
Wasn't replying to you but I think you're looking for a message further up? Lol
You get a Hero Choice Chest for clearing Ch12. You can get your 4th Daimon copy there
oh yeah my bad misclicked
oh nice, I'll try for the other formations then and see how far I can push in ch12
most heros are elite except a few I got dupes like brutus, oden, thoran, rowan
@lavish spindle Brutus doesn't need more copies. He's fine as is. If he's on your wishlist you should take him off.
he's not
Prolly from Elite stones then, but yeah it's good you got Brutus that early. He's extremely useful and relevant up till Ch30+
maybe it's just the gear then he's getting melted in this stage
Holy smokes, that actually worked! Is this the strat going forward? Just stall for daimon to ult? Or is it stage specific?
Daimon isn't actually a tank despite what his role says, he's a carry and should be treated as such. After he hits Mythic and you start levelling his Signature Item it becomes even more important for you to stall for him since he starts to "snowball". He starts stealing stats from enemies and the boost in stats becomes permanent if he kills the target he stole from.
I think he needs to be Lv141 for 7 seconds of immunity?
What chapter are you on again?
Ahh okay doesn’t he need to be L to go past 140? Or Is daikon a higher tier
Chapter 12 stage 15
@lavish spindle Yeah, L. I think it's a good time to point out that you put your levels into the wrong Heroes.
I’ll reset them right now lol which ones did I mess up on? 14 are on the stone
You're slowly falling into the trap that is apparently Nilas' first meme
He'll be more than enough I think. Just focus on levelling your fodders. Your levels are on A-tier heroes which is bad since they'll be capped at 140 for a long time
This one stuck to me when I was just starting out. xd
Yeah that’s me!
It'd do you a lot of good to read the pinned guide in #classic-questions for more details on this
"I don't want to be this meme"
I’ll do that now
Good to know the in game description can't be trusted... got creamed on the next stage, let's go
Is it worth putting mirael on bottom back so daimon is in healing range of rowan? pic for reference
Btw @silk ibex got any recommendations? Tucking Fasi
Here's what I got
Put Nara in the crystal and use her to hook Saveas. That will give Daimon some time to do some work. I also suggest swapping Rowan for another tank. Golus, Hogan or Brutus
Also don't use Mirael, Silvina will just eat her up. Doesn't she die immediately?
Doesn't she go after the lowest defense?
Maybe check on their stats
Yeah that would be better we don't know what gear u have
Its been a while since I used Mirael 
Anyway I still wouldn't use Mirael and Daimon on the same comp. It's too fragile.
Yeah
Is Ferael fearing before or after Tasi's banish?
Also the carry should be about 20 levels higher then the rest so I guess Mirael should be a bit higher
looks like: Mirael, Hogan, Golus, Arden, Silvina is my final team to 160 on that guide, just reset gonna work on this now, thank you for the help
Yeah, working on it. Doesn't really help me in this lvl though
Let me double check real quick
The silvina is going for rowan?
It's before. I had to put it on 1x speed since it's so close.
Yeah definitely before
Yeah, but I took rowan off
Either way, try using Lyca instead of Thoran and play around with the positions a bit
Try taking off daimon and use silvina in his place
Retry spam, Ferael needs to stop Tasi banishing Daimon @amber beacon
Also play rowan instead of hogan
And talene in frontline
I think silvina will serve as a good enough distraction to sauveus too
Why is ur carry not there 
I'll spam Lyca. It's getting closer I think
Replaced her with nara
She is your carry right ? 
Yeah
Then put her back in
Silvina
Thoran
Mirael (middle)
Talene/daimon
Rowan
Yeah unless Silvina targets her first, you can put her back in
That got close, just Vedan and his regen blocking me now
Spam retries, it'll get there 🙂
Cool, thanks for all the help!

@silk ibex it finally got there. Stupid little fairy
Now you know my pain
Instead of Arden is there a hero I can use until I get the fodder for him? I have him at Rare+ lol
already had to swap brutus in for hogan because I didnt know any better yet
Unfortunately Arden is the best Wilder fodder Hero by far
He's a stand-in for before you get Ferael up and running
makes sense, would Tasi be okay for now since I have her L and then just reset when I get arden in the next few days
It's fine but for your sanity, stop ascending A-tier heroes to L
oh yeah I'm not going to do that anymore, I've got the guides now and will be sticking to them
I have an Alt account too so now I'm going to just do it correctly there and see if it passes me
I did that as well but only because it took so long to get a Daimon on my main. Luckily I got like 4 consecutive Daimons on my main so I threw my alt away lol
once I get the fodder for arden and hogan I'm sure my main will be my star again since I do have daimon already lol
???
Honestly you'd need different comps for different stages. Which stage are you stuck on?
8-28
Send screenshots of the stage itself and what comp you're currently trying
Also this @pale kettle
Yes I’m going to level them up
Nice
Try that all your fodders are the one you level and the rest of the heroes are on rc
Lorsan&satrana for gorvo&safiya
Comp suggestions?
Try daimon middle lyca in place of nara Mirael at bottom and talene maybe infront of estrilda
mirael can ult once, daimon ults once, if lucky twice and talene revives
but still dies :(
Hi mate, i would like to do Daimon - Thoran front and lyca Tasi silas/arden back, do you think its good or i have better team to use?
There is no one comp which will work everywhere 
It honestly depends on the comp you're facing. But this is what it should look like
Daimon
Talene/Lyca
Oden/Silas/Lyca
Thoran
Oden/Arden/Lyca
Swap positions of talene and lyca maybe
Oh thx for your answer, but i don't understand how the placement work with your word 😒
The ones with the > are frontliners
ironically talene decides to just jump in and tank the hit from estrilda anyway .-.
yeah thanks game xD
ill try retry spamming
Oh thx mate, will try it 🙂
Swap daimon and talene then (daimon at top)
mirael doesnt get an ult in anymore sadge... ill try retry spamming this one tho
Nvm I just saw oden I am blind
Nara is fine try daimon frontline oden in the middle talene/lyca at bottom and Brutus where he is
ill try retry spamming that
@amber beacon thx mate, that works, chapter 11 🙂
I need some help again lol
Cool. Talene + Daimon can carry you until level 140 or so.
Use Nara + Oden if you have those. Ferael can work as well
Can you help me with my stage?
Use a proper tnak in front of the big dude and put daimon bottom so he doesn't get stunned. Oden can work to prevent Nemora ult. Use your own Lyca as well if you have one.
Oden
Tank
Lyca/Ferael
Talene
Daimon
That didn't work
reset the levels on rosalina and pump Daimon to 180, and if you cant, reset rowan too. Thank me later
if you can, also give him +10 SI
What?
i would give better advice if i knew anything about how to use scarlett, but i dont so..

Scarlet is a insane dps
if she is doing great for you, do exactly the same thing i just told you, but her instead of daimon
Reset rose and put everything into her?
help please cleared nvm
yes
Then won't I lose my rc level?
level her up to 140 after reseting her
after resetting levels you get all the resources used on that character
dust included
So do it to finish the mission then just put it back to how it was?
which mission?
Chapter 16-40
So I reset rose put it all to scarlet then rest scarlet and put it back to what it was? Is that what your telling me to do?
nop
keep scarlet at 180
the level of the carry is far more impactful then the level of the supports
keep her always AT LEAST 20 levels ahead
OK
that said, i have never used scarlet once, thats why i suggested daimon. she should do just fine tho, and its higher ascension
....you do realize i can't upgrade scarlet to 180 if I have anything less then 140 on rc right
Then I won't have enough material to make scarlet 180
Yup
if you reset them you get all the resources you used on them, ok?
if you level them to 140, thats 20 levels lower
so you will have a bunch of resources left after doing it
put them all in scarlet
So reset rose and rowan?
yes
And make them both 140?
yes
I can't beat this level
If you start the battle and look at 1x speed and pay close attention, you can see a circle flash around rowan/his cart. This is the range of his potions. When Rowan is on the bottom there in pos5, his potions cannot reach Raine or Daimon. If you want his potions to reach all 4 other heroes, you have to put him in pos4
On some teams you won't want certain heroes to be able to grab his potions so you'll have to play around with it.
Sure thing
Send hero box
i think ur lvling ur chars wrong lol... check pins in #classic-questions just sayin
But initially I would suggest using 2 proper tanks (Hogan and Golus are good for your level especially if you have them at L/L+) then Daimon Rowan and another support at the back.
Also, I agree with @pale kettle, you shouldn't make your A-tier heroes L/L+
Um first of all, you have to correct your heroes. Level up 4 fodders + Daimon to 160 first.
Then put Rowan and anyone else you want to use on your resonating crystal.
So upgrade golus Hogan to 120lvl and use them?
Yeah, make them L+ and level them evenly together with 2 other fodders (Arden and Mirael/Saveas are the best ones) but keep Daimon's levels as high as possible before that
Daimon is fine where he is now, focus on leveling 4 fodders to at least 120 then take Daimon to 160 then level your fodders to 160 as well.
If you have more questions go ask at #classic-questions
Use a proper tank and swap out Grez. He's pretty bad earlier on. I'd swap out Mirael as well but it's up to you. This is what I'll try:
Daimon
Hogan/Golus
Rowan
Talene
Arden
Could also try Grez instead of Arden but I'm not sure if he can get his ult off
Umm stop ascending to L 
And also you must be levelling up your fodder for now rest of the heroes go to rc
Any help on this cheese ? Thoran can't stack up enough to even ult 
I think you're further than me but ascend the hero you have the most copies of to M. At least that's what Tree3's guide says. Is Kelthur on your wishlist?
Also I think it's better to ask in #classic-questions
Yeah he is
Any suggestions for better team?
(Ignore plwer difference xD)
This might work. Remove Ferael's weapon so he fears faster.
Daimon
Lyca
Ferael
Thoran
Eironn
Help.
I'd do:
Nara
Thoran
Ferael (try removing his weapon)
Brutus
Daimon
You can also try to swap Brutus or Thoran with Lyca. Play around with the positioning a bit.
Gonna give it a try, thanks~
GL. Try a bunch of times. It'll take a few retries due to the Ferael and Numisu
Daimon is a backline hero. As he is squishy despite the “tank” role.
But i cant do anything on this Boss even when he is on back line
Put Daimon bottom so he won't get stunned by the big guy's stuns. If you have Brutus, he's great at soaking Shemira's damage.
When Daimon is 20 levels above your other heroes, the best thing to do is stall as much as possible with your other heroes so keep that in mind when building comps.
Use lyca instead of rowan and swap lyca and daimon position
I tried it already :c but I’ll do some more retries when I get on again
Any good lineups from my heroes?
Make sure to get that daimon up! He will carry you forever
Im leveling her and what does it mean by pentagram?
Oh dear god I just saw
?
Don’t level up more then 5 heros at once
Only lvl up your 5 strongest heros
I want to use scarlet but she knocking tf out of Daimon😭😭and the rest
Golus is starting to be rlly average rn…
Hello everyone. Any tips on how to beat this?
Help pls
Reset the R golus and level the L golus.
Yes. Now you can take everyone to 140 and Daimon to 160.
Exp essence,etc
I know. Now you have to grind.
Exp is not problem but essence
Is very hard to get
You can get quiet a bit from peaks of time don't know if u have tried that
Welcome to AFK Arena
Afk is in the name XD
Was talking about the Dust Wall but okay 
Can be meant both ways XD
I’m stuck on this stage it’s so annoying
Swap Brutus and Lyca. Hook Isabelle with Nara or use Ferael instead of Oden. And stop Ascending A-Tiers past L/L+ without taking them to M/A
Will do and I can take fereal and oden and rosaline to M+ A I just need fooders so I’m just waiting on them since I use them all the time
But otherwise I don’t
Just for future reference don't Ascend anyone unless you can get them to A
Also don't work on Brutus. He works fine at E+
Okie okie will do sounds good
am i doing sth wrong
Are you following someones clear?
a lot of clears r this
It could be, that because of the nerfs - that the deficit is too low for him to do enough damage a swing. @nocturne furnace What do you think?
What can i do
Something
Try to put Eironn middle back. Swap Hogan and Golus
I thought I went blind cuz I saw no Brutus 
You have to show enemy comp if u need something particular
Try using Scarlett in place of Raine
follow me on the game, iirc i have different clear
Do u have artifacts ?
Yes
Started another one for the fun of it, good?
Daimon has call ?
Okay nice
Yes
Put daimon in the middle once scarlett on the top rowan in the bottom and keep the front two the same
Scarlet is better than Raine?
Scarlett is boss meta Raine needs investment I believe
scarlet is the dps, raine is the buffer.
Pretty meh. Also why aren't you dumping your resources mostly on Wukong and your fodders
Can’t pull isa because she’ll get grez’s shield and impossible to kill otherwise. Do I just wait for an athalia merc or is there smthin I can do now :/
Pull her anyway, I mainly use
Daimon
Lyca
Oden
Thoran
Nara
For this stage but I think there's a better combination.
Help? I cant paas
Thanks i’ll try a couple of times
Thx ill try
Tried 15 times now didn’t work 🥴
15 tries is nothing lol. Play around with the positionings and different Heroes, remember to switch Gear. Retry spam the comp that looks the most successful
Switch gear even? Yeez i’ve never gone this deep lmaoo
I’m No one to talk about What to do or not but check the beginner guide in pins in #classic-questions @proven cove
Help me pls
Should I use Belinda over Rowan?
@kind nest Pretty please~
I would keep rowan.
.
swap mirael and rowan if u havent tried already
Anything good?
What's the best overall comp I can do atm?
read the beginner guides in #classic-questions it'll help u find teams and progress quicker
Kk thanks so much
How can i even beat this
Doesn't seem to work anymore, send help
u don’t need nara on belinda
Shes the one bursting everyone, I wanted to keep her ccd. Tried arden, but he can't cast as he gets knocked out of the animation
ayo same enemy lineup but youre 20 stages further
have u tried oden and have him cc?
rip u have better characters
Yep, he doesn't really touch the backline
So I've tried this comp today numerous times. Now I try it again and it works first try. Game likes to f with me
Yeo with that team you’ll get to chapter 21
think ill be able to do this aswell?
hold on lemme send my box
i have rowan but hes only elite
@sacred pivot will i be able to do it or nah
looks good to me man, I basically ran the same comp throughout
tho to be fair, it gets harder to go thoran later so I started using grez bc I got lucky and got him 9F
then again my thoran is still E+ so prob not the best
lol
yeah im probably gonna go ascend oden when i can instead of thoran
i can ascend thoran already but i just need fodder but im 1 E+ oden away from ascending him
I think you're the 3rd person to send that stage today? Ch18 is really torturing y'all
rip its not working...
oh wait
Might be the equip
nvm it worked
👍
what gear do u have on your daimon?
This like top two row got me through until 21-53
And damion is main carry
get him to +20 asap super helpful
Also GL, 18-37 is the same line-up @harsh urchin
I just don't have the golds yet, I'm working on it.
ugh
damn u got yourself some lucky gear
how have u all got the right faction ffs
i did some reset scrolls
i got fucking wilders
use reset scrolls
mine dissapeared wtf
@harsh urchin I think Reset Scrolls have a pity too
oh lol
yes as long as U don’t take the new one if u don’t want it
You can't go more than 5 resets without getting all the Factions at least once
As long as you keep hitting "abandon" if you don't get your Faction
Any help?
ferael for talene?
I’ve done it already. However I can try again ig
Ferael's very RNG. You'll need to retry spam
That’s been happening for like 3 hours… that’s as close as I get. Or a 1v1 with niru and I lose
@kindred torrent im at 21-57 lool
That stage sucks too. I used a merc on that
help.
Put daimon back line bottom, put oden middle and if he doesn’t teleport the grezhul, throw lyca in the frontline to die after haste. The daimon will attack the Isabelle directly and then you’ll have a chance at rng or just completely dominating it.
If you have Brutus, use him in front of daimon. Otherwise, you can also use Nara to pull Isabelle
didnt work
swap nara and silas? can maybe put eironn where talene in and take out silas(or talene)
Show me what u did rq. I just gave u what I did to win that
Help. 😍😍
put daimon backline
Do you have a fereal?
yh
Put fereal in behind talene. Put talene top frontline
with weapon or without?
With
Middle back?
why?
anywhere just behind your tanks since shes your carry
Better damage.. why else? You don’t need super fast speed on his terrorize for this one. You can also replace talene with lyca if you want. Try it out a bit
yeah it worked thx
👍
Tf hogan wasnt that bad to me
Tried many formations i jusy literaly die i dont why even tho they dont have an actual dmg dealer but they have tooo much dmg and haste
Before this stage daimon was just tanking everything with suppory
have you tried Rowan frontline?
Yes he just dies instantly
daimon
>brutus
oden
>rowan
nara
lyca instead of rowan didnt know that he dies instantly
Lol i realy dont get tried with both everything just dies instantly as if i jumped 5 chapter
Nothing even ults or cast abilities just dies and daimon is banished even tho nara hook tasi
My death is this stage help me pass
swap lyca and brutus
Lyca
-golus
Oden
-Daimon
Eirron
Maybe try this?
^^
Duras grace? If it’s the only one u have put it on daimon
just started a new server and gotta pretty lucky on pulling ezizh wondering do i try and build a team off this pull im only on chapter 3
Not really. I think you'll get more use out of fodder heroes in the earlier stages.
What do I do
replace silvina with morrow and place morrow in middle where solise is. Shemira should be able to front line where lucius is and move lucious where daimon is and daimon behind lucius
Any Idea?
some1 help
What characters would work best with daimon carry? I've been using daimon-talene-tasi-rowan-lyca in that order for a while and its okay but was wondering if other characters would work better
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Thoran and Brutus (once you get him, even at E) are great since they soak a lot of damage. Nara can also do wonders against problematic cc heroes.
Ehhh
Is this just a level issue? Nothing seems to get even close. Best run I've had only killed one of the enemy. Any formation suggestions while I wait for levels?
If it is around 50 percent of the enemy then there is no issue
I honestly just don't even dent the enemy team :(
bREO
MOVE UR DAMIN WITH SILAS AND YA
@prisma needle
OR U CAN GO LYCA FOR HOGAN AND PUT LYCA WHERE THORAN IS AND HAVE DAIMON WHERE SILAS IS
Like that? @solid stirrup
This round of omg…😕
YA TRY BNOTH THOSE AND GET BACK TO ME
will do, thanks 🙂 how many trials you reckon i should give each team?
BRO UR TRTOLLING DROP SCARLETT GO LYCA PUT LYCA WHERE DAIMON IS AND SYLAS WHERE SCARLETT WAS AND DAIMON MIDDLE
Who’s trolling…
TRY LIKE 10 TIMES???
u bc ur putting daimon where fat guy can stun him
How is that intentionally trolling.
Pipe down second of all.💀
need help
brutus
golus
lyca
silas
daimon
ok
good luck.
How would I pl-
place?
you can go around the community or somewhere like Reddit where Cursed realm formations do be shared.
Ok thanks
Image loading😍
Ok thank you
Yeah
like that yeah.
already did haha, so once again, best of luck.
Belly flopped asf.
Help pls
@solid stirrup okay, so i've tried both teams 15 times each and neither has been able to kill a single enemy haha! The Lyca team just seems too squishy, Lyca goes in 1 second, then Silas and Rowan pretty much immediately after and Thoran/Daimon don't last long after that. The Hogan team lasts longer, but it's just stalling out without killing anything 😦 I'm questioning how useful Rowan is in the lineup cos he seems to just put potion cart up and not much else before dying...
CLOSEST ATTEMPT
alna won't get her immunity if she's infront of estrilda
yeah just a better rng will get it
What are you suggesting?
oden is very powerful, throwing him in the team would be handy
Would that mean get rid of Brutus or Golus
?
Or Lyca
?
golus
never tbh, as a enemie yes can be very annoying to fight, but later on her 9f is the only reason she's used so she can mind control an enemy at start of battle.
Yeah I’m just going to take a break bc if tried almost everything I possibly could😟
It’s at this point aggravating😂
I’ve never yet been to frustrated over a game
it's fine, when you feel exhausted and can no longer do it, you can stop and take a break, ~~ofc i don't do that i spend hours on a stage while still not getting it so idk why im saying that
~~
I actually completed hell😌
@prisma needle “How to beat a specific stage” goes in this channel, there’s no need to post the same question in multiple channels
Have you tried using Arden? He’s excellent lvl 1-160
tried him for a bit but his root thing never seemed to go off
Set battle speed to 1x and see what’s stopping him
Might need to reposition him or give him more haste. Sometimes it’s just not a good stage for him.
how do i give him more haste?
it's mirael stopping the root
well actually what stops him seems to depend on his position, but he very rarely gets the root off
i just caved and used my short term hire for it
Dura’s call can be given to him to help him root faster. Sometimes it’s better on him than on your carry.
Also when you get to ch12 giving him mythic INT boots gives him haste
how long would you say it realistically takes to get ch12? i thought it would be quite straight forward but the back end of 11 is just destroying me
"Realistically" is subjective but I've seen someone make it to Ch11 in 24 hours.
oh yikes haha
getting this far has taken me about a week and i just feel like i've hit a wall where all i can do is wait to level everything to 140+ if i want a chance at beating ch.11
Ice shemira team?
Um so should i use a raku or shemira on my team my raku is legendary lvl140 and my shemira is legendary+ lvl 140
check your leaderboards
Got stuck at this stage, any tips?
Nvm i got it
Any suggestions ?
Can anyone help me with this stage? Everything just dies instantly even tho before this stage i was able to survive easly
Swapping rowan and brutus
I dont why but if i reverse rowan and brutus position nara dont hook tasi and if i replace rowan in that position with lyca same thing nara dont hook tasi
Tasi can just blink away after the first hook. You need Nara accuracy to be able to cc Tasi (kicking tasi on the ground). But the most important is putting Daimon into Rowan heal/energy range
Would swap nara to lock out raine instead cause letting raine use her abilities enables morvus and tasi to attack faster. If you have a rosaline I would set her to rowan so he can ult spam supplying daimon his energy needed and will disable tasi from backlining your team and cc frontline morvus and estrilda
Also than makes raine not be able to use her marks which is a key factor to this stage cause lower your health gets more damage your guys will take
Alright tried both hooking raine and tasi with switching brutus and rowana nd it took some tries but diamon triple ulted and wiped them ty
How people counter athalia stages? I just put a brutus in her spot but still not working
Lyca and mass cc
Would run lyca brutus rowan rosa and daimon for the athalia stages your on
What can i do here?
Hi mates, can you ask you which team would be the best to push me in the campaign?
i was doing > Talene/Thoran
Pop/Oden/Lyca
Can anyone help me with a 3rd pvp team? This is my current formations and also what I have
Try Daimon, Talene, Lyca, Silas & Mirael. Put Mirael in the middle, Talene & Daimon front. Pretty sure you can use Mirael till 160s
Anyone be able to help me with this stage?
stuck at 11-32, does anyone have an idea to help me?
hmm, try
Daimon, Talene, Lyca, Rowan, Saurus/Scarlet. move them around until it works, if not might need to level up more.
I would say some other comps but not sure if you have room in crystal
Yeah thats basically the team ive been trying to beat it with besides swapping a few characters in and out and moving them around, my team just dies so fast tho
maybe throw thoran in there to try and buy time for talene to revive, talene and daimon in the back next to rowan
o i just got it, thoran and grezhul in front , then daimon rowan talene
nice good job
lol and 2 stages after its basically the exact same except my team dies even faster
Hi mates, which team do you recommend plz? I use > TaLene/Thoran front and lyca/oden/PoP back actually
I was a little stupid, I wrote to the wrong channel for help...I need help in making a formation for PVP...in the area of 3-5 pieces (except for the Ainz team)
(sorry...i'm just a little stupid)
where can i find some good pvp team comps for heroes of esperia

farael will die instantly the moment thoran dies, so maybe swap for an arden?
Help. Is my team just too weak to beat this?
is your daimon M+ or just M, i can't really identify XD, if not then I think you can level your brutus and thoran higher, if daimon is M+, maybe get him to 200?
Things are gonna get tougher ahead I am also currently stuck at 18-13 lol
If u beat that tell me how u did it
the stages without isabella is much easier than with her in, cuz that's annoying as well
Ferael is worse 
i don't have daimon so it's shemira and saurus brute forcing through
I had tried that but the hypo mage interrupted his first roots so that was a rip
I am stuck here for now
try fereal instead raine then remove fereal weapon also try to switch oden with nara
why removing the weapon helps anything?
removing fereal's weap procs his fears faster
How did you beat 18-12?
Add me I guess u can see my formations then I already forgot
:o
you can add me to see how I did it as well, but it's shemira XDDDDDDDDD
Hello guys. Any tips?
hmm i think you need some time powering up and getting daimon copies
@lilac marsh you would want daimon at the back of thoran, so he can get his ult up without dying quickly
well you dont put daimon in front on estrilda
I tried the GB stall team, but I'm not sure if they're invested enough. Should I switch Ezio or someone else in instead?
Thank you. I’ll put him in the back
So does ferael doesent really need to equip a weapon? I can keep that slot empty?
well not always
Oh okay
you only remove his weap when he dies instantly
I played the same comp rn use thoran and Brutus up front and ferael with no weapon and nara to pull Belinda daimon in the middle
Got it thanks :D
Tried already, tried even eironn to pull both grez and belinda
That and the next are tough but the difficult reduces of the later stages
Maybe I can use mercenary for 18-12 but then what if I get stuck on 18-13 
Pleas help I’m stuck
Replace Ferael with Nara and Rowan with Oden
Brutus with Lyca too if it doesn't work
You remove Mythic* weapon for Ferael at some Haste breakpoints cause Mythic weaps have a hidden Haste bonus that makes him Fear slower
can somebody please help me, that mirael is annoying asf
Any suggestion
Any suggestions for multi battles? My strongest single battle team is alna grez fareal silas daimon, but I have a little difficulty switching people around for multi fights, is there any secondary comp that would be good to start working on with what I have?
how do I beat this, cant seem to find anything working for me on afk helper
if you have Mehira you can try Raku charm: Brutus, Rowan, Raku, Mehira, Lyca
What do i do here
I do have her ill give that one a try
I guess this is dead end for me until power up. Right?
These are the elites I currently own, and I'm getting stuck on chapter 8. Any suggestions as to what lineup would be most beneficial?
Read Pinned message in #classic-questions
*For beginners
what do i do here
These are the hero's that I have can someone recommend me a team out of these or someone who I should build for my 5th team
Anyone got any ideas
I'm out of options.
Recently moved into 5-team battles and I am suffering . I need help making some teams
Maybe this?
Maybe this?
Damn I don’t got thoran
Oh wait
Mostly placed thoran front bottom so he can fear belinda after pull when he ressurects
Brutus replace thoran I suppose
Why not use rowan
Help please i dunno how to counter eiron and tasi
He just melts, doesn't get an ult off. Already tried, if belinda ults, it's over.
Ainz is unaffected by cc for the first few seconds
Maybe there is an ainz option
Idk how to use him because he just seems to get instagibbed
He is e30 3/9 furn and si10… Albedo is si20
Let’s go
Swap fera wit daimon
What for guild bosses? And i dont remember the other bosses
Guild bosses, Twisted realm bosses, abyssal Expendition/hunting fields boss
this was a thing at one point but with engraved belinda it has changed
(raine needs 3f and saurus needs si30)
Scarlet is also meta now.
yeah and that
idk if there are more updated graphical guides tho
that changes a lot but get alna to 9f and you can do most single stages pretty easily with alna gb
I also recommend not getting trial heroes until MV is out just in case they are required for a stage.
not that the next MV will include baba yaga tho
Hey guys which is the best lineup in Heroes of Esperia against burst comp?
This is the luckiest ult I made, and should I try and boost grezhul for my carry
are my heroes too under leveled or can i win here?
There's a good chance you can win but don't use Isabella
Not having Daimon means it's not that lucky. Your carry early game should be Daimon, so focus on that. Awakened talene can only get you so far
who should i use in place of her
Lyca, Ferael, Nara... you're not underleveled lol
you are extremely over levelled I haven't even broke rc and i'm at ch 28
daimon
>brutus
rowan
>lyca
fera(no weap)
will work for most stages
what does broke rc mean
nvm it means resonating crystal
yeah
Help.
swap daimon and nara then nara for brutus
I feel like I can translate guides like this if there was a more updated one
Lots of nicknames like "Lizard, Slappy Bear, Bunny Boy, Bat and Purple", lol, but I get most of it, sucks that it's kinda outdated now with Scarlet
Gave it a lot of tries but it's not even close. Swapped sides and stuff, nothing.
Any line ups with khazard maybe if not that’s alr ill take any just needed for pve
try nara isabella then and remove ferael/ try fera no weapon
Anyone got some tipps? Also regarding my best potential overall setup. Thanks in regards
daimon
>brutus
eirron
>rowan
grez?
stop star hunting tho change your wishlist when needed
also don't engrave anyone btw
I already changed my Wishlist, so it's going to be better from now
But I already did some engravings on Eirron and daimon (not to many tho)
Nice, the comp worked btw, huge thanks!
np read beginner guide pinned here as well
and here is good prio list for tavern wishlist
LB Priority heroes:
Rosa, Rowan, Raine, Scarlet, Estrilda | > | Morrow, Gwyn, Hendrik | > | Peggy, Cecilia | > | Lucius, Belinda, Fawkes, Eluard | > | Rest
Maulers:
Tidus, Skriath, Kren, Skreg, Numisu | > | Antandra (for late game), Granit (High deficit with +30 to help Luc) | > | Brutus, Warek (For TR), Safiya (Powercap) | > | Rest
Wilders:
Eironn, Lyca, Raku, Mishka, Pippa | > | Gorvo, Saurus, Tasi & Nemora | > | Lorsan & Astar | > | Rest
GB:
Daimon, Grezhul, Thoran, ferael, Silas, Oden | > | Desira & Hodgkin | > | Izold (For tower) | > | Nara & Kelthur | > | Theowynn & Shemira | > | Rest
There are heroes that you would like want 1 copy of early, like Cecilia, Lorsan, Brutus, Safiya, Nara & Kelthur
Overall you want to focus on the first group of heroes (the priority ones), before moving on to the 2nd and 3rd group, etc. - Group 1 > Group 2 > Group 3 > ...
I would not get stars on anyone (carries) until you have aleast 8/8 copies of the priority heroes (The first group of heroes) - Max 2 spots on WL for stars, after priorities
I would keep scrolling GB until you have the priority ascended (The first group of heroes, the 6 GBs) - once you have 8/8 copies of the priority GBs, you can use the cards on wilders, but keep scrolling GB for fodder
Thanks alot! :D
Would anyone be able to give me some advice on what heroes I should level/put on the crystal? I know I need to reset Daimon so I can get past 100. Currently going through chap 10.. slowly
Can you suggest a team of 5 with prince of Persia? If he works best with Leonardo and raku then who are the other 2
Help I am not understanding. I could get Daimon to L but not L+. Been really unlucky and not gotten any more of him. :(
Not sure what to do or what lineup to do.
Please someone help
Dont get him to L
Actually dont make anyone L if you cant make them L+ so you already messed up go to #classic-questions and read the beginners guide in the pins
No that's what I mean. I can get him to L but not L+, so I'm not getting him to L.
Yeah but im saying read the guide since u already made the mistake twice
Can anyone help me with a 3rd pvp team? This is my current formations and also what I have
i used ainz
yea it does takes retries cause of solise
5p or ainz should work but takes time try afkhelper
i used fereal instead of ldv
ohhh he no 30
try to 30him his 30% dmg helps a lot
any ideas?
Any suggestions ?
Seems like it was only yesterday that you were hardstuck Ch11 lol
Swap Thoran and Brutus and swap Daimon and Rowan?
Okay will try
I have to make 3 teams and literally cannot figure out a way to split my people up evenly in a way that works
Not working :(
u mean for pve/campaign?
Yeah ch 34
Just get at least 2 teams that work
Oh campaign 🤔🤔🤔
Lmaooo
I’m working on it I’m saving cards rn
Yeah
Building him now but he’s nowhere close
No hes leg+
By then I’ll need 4 teams I’m 2 boss battles away from ch 35
Lol true thanks
I need help😍
Help?
Any suggestions?
imo thorans useless, so remove him, use nara to hook the shemira
I just tried something a bit different athalia and nara that worked
Thoran stun comes in clutch sometimes so u can play around that
thoran stuns?
When he revives the fear thing comes into effect
o
Can raine ever pop her ult and daimon utilizing it? If not then lyca is probably better
Yeah Raine can ult most of the time
Any suggestions?
shldnt u stun the ferael instead? to remove the fear? id hook ferael and if belindas also annoying then athalia the belinda
The healer guy is also annoying...makes we want to triple backdoor lol
oh double healer, do u have a eironn? if u do u can eironn in middle back, then athalia on one and nara on the other and then daimon and brutus at front
No eironn sadly
help, team copm ideas? mirael usually gets me but if i kill the mirael early then raine/golus/khasos gets me
Is this lineup ok?
I won't have odens SI though 
It's only unlocked, not even upgraded
Do you have another tank other then Brutus and golus?
niru and talene
:o
I am one copy away from ferael ascended which is why I am saving fodder for now
I cleared it with thoran not sure how good talene is though
can i see ur comp for it?
Maybe if you add me I guess you can check from there I don't have any ss now
What can i do?
try to nara the mirael
@pale kettle I just cleared 18-33 with this, same exact comp as what you're facing.
This stupid rng hates me
Oden is really good in fights where he can survive. Mine even ulted sometimes.
It’s totally crazy How a dimensional is worth 100$, though it’s good cause not alot of people Will buy to win
🐋
U pulled ferael?
Yea.
Oden
Thoran
Nara
Brutus
Daimon
Looking for lineup help. At least 3 strong pvp teams. My main pvp team usually has me top 15 on my server. Albedo, Ezizh, Talene, Rowan, Ainz.
I have no signature item emblems to +30 anyone.
I have 1 swap scroll I am willing to use on either shemira or lucius.
I have enough for 1 hero to +30 EE.
Yoooo it worked thankss
Nice!
help please, if i dont kill mirael then i die to mirael, but if i try to kill mirael, i die to isabella
odens there to displace estrilda onto grez to buy time for daimon to kill mirael
Your comp seems good. I think that'll take a lot of retries though.
oh ok thanks 🥲 guess ill retry spam, was hoping to quickly get to ch16
You can try Ferael instead of Oden as well if you have him in your crystal. His fear is pretty RNG-ish but it helps a lot with comps like those.
ahh ok ill try that, i tried replacing nara w/ ferael to mixed extents but i didnt try oden, thanks
GL!
Vedan Isabelle and silvina are so annoying, What can i do?
You can try Nara >Talene Oden >Brutus Daimon. I think Nara's better because from what I remember she usually gets Mirael very low.
this?
The ">" are for your frontline, going top to bottom.
You can experiment with Brutus/Talene which one does better where.
oh ok, thanks
this?
Yea.
@polar whale my comp for 18-40 hope it helps
Still struggling with 18-39, I really hate Numisu.
Dang it I forgot what comp I used for that...I just forget because I use such random formations
@safe hazel you are now my best friend! Prince of Persia is so much better than Ainz :c
how can i make ferael fear faster than the other ferael? i removed weapons and even added haste, but my ferael keeps getting scared
nvm cleared it
comp ideas? really wanna get to ch16 bc its so damn close lol...
Swap daimon and ferael so u fear him maybe
oh ill try that thanks
Try swapping shemira and daimon. Also don’t ascend heroes to L without being able to get them to L+ cos you’ll get stuck. So if u haven’t, read the beginner guides in pins in #classic-questions
Use nara to take the nemora which is what I did as much as i remember
In place of who?
Take out ferael
Yea aight I’ll try ty
Who should I put in the Desired Hero Tavern? I have 3/3.
Feels like nothing I do comes close 
My lineup is struggling rn can someone tell me a good one I can make
Hard stuck on this stage been a couple days
Hard stuck on this boss stage. Any suggestions?
39-3 ideas anyone?
It would be helpful to read the messages pinned in this channel
Swap lucius with brutus
Swap mehira with mirael and then swap her position with rowan.
Also pls read the beginner guides in the pins in #classic-questions
Don’t ascend heroes to L without being able to get them L+. And also only level 5 heroes at a time ( so reset silas and wukong )
Also read the guides in the pins in #classic-questions 🥲
I haven’t tested the new hero but u could probably use mirael instead of her and put her middle back
Could someone please help me
Anyone got a lineup that works good for Chapter 8
Jist wonsering about my general pool atm. Anything on crystal that you'd swap over for something else? I'm a bit dubious about Safiya cos I never seem to bring her and when I do she doesn't really make much difference compared to bringing a different unit. I've heard/seen good things about Mishka, worth putting on at E?
I'll have another slot open up tomorrow as well if anyone can recommend what I should slap on :)
I'm getting wrecked here, if I don't pull Arden he just CCs the crap out of me. Am I missing something, a better lineup for this match? Or do I need to upgrade my guys now? I'm so close to the end!
Do you guys have any idea what team could i use for pvp ?
Why not straight-up Ainz comp?
Cuz my ainz, albedo and merlin are trash
For arena ?
Yeah
Ur best bet is AAA, Merlin and Ferael
And if Babayaga turns out to be good she might also be a candidate?
Probably
Tried this, seems to work for now but should i use thoran instead of arthur ?
Correct
Rosa and Lucretia i guess
Lucretia worth it at E you think?
Guys pls help me to pick the best lineup
ive never used her and u probably will just merc her if u ever need her for a stage until shes built but i dont see anyone else that is worth it rn
dont ascend heroes to L without being able to make them L+
. there should be lineup tips in any case in the beginner guides in the pins in #classic-questions
Read pins in #classic-questions
haha, best of a bad bunch situation then... mishka/scarlet not worth?
I think mishka only gets good with his sig item later on. Not needed for u rn, hogan and golus will do fine. I think if u have daimon scarlet isn’t worth it either
Mishka needs 9f to shine
Makes sense, thanks. Should I be using Golus instead of Thoran?
@royal stag I thought my day couldn't get any worse 
Its so sad to see every f****** day
Thorans also usable, stage dependent i guess tho. Later on thoran will be a better tank than golus
I hear a guide channel's being worked on. Hope that'll be more visible than "Read pins" after they fucked up lol
That doesnt help u when ur joining discord after 1 month like me
I immediately looked before even touching anything in my game past the tutorial lol
And my box was sooooo fucked up its not even funny
I remember my first question is "Is it normal to get Thoran on your first pull, like is he a free unit"?
My first few messages
Knowing how absolutely befuddled I was when starting out I'm surprised I only fucked up a total of 5 times in this game
The last one pure gold 🤣 🤣 🤣
I saw Thoran being the most popular Hero and thought he was OP, and he is, just not at account Lv1 
My second batch of questions was of course asking about Ainz and how to get him kek
As a overlord fan not surprising
You are smart I wasted most of my fac scrolls on wilder and ended up with no GB copies early and no fodder rn
@safe hazel I like doing my research and trying to do things right first try, tho I already fucked up 5 times so... lol
Lul.
Still relevant for me
🤣
I thought breaking your Crystal means I'm officially past early game .w.
You are
Can you help with this ?
Replace Thoran with Lyca and if that doesn't work replace Rosaline with Ferael, and swap Scarlet's position with them
~~Also LB box yikes
~~
Any team suggestions?
Need help with 5th and 6th crystal heros and should I keep Mirael or swap
I think you're closest to Thoran cheese and Ainzbedo? You have very few GBs to make Alna GB and not enough Heroes to work with Eironn to make 5pull
@patent thorn It just seems like you didn't focus on building any one particular team so it's hard to tell what'll work at your level of progression since I'm not there yet
If Daimon comp still serves you well that's an option.
Don't have to post RC next time since we can tell which Heroes are in RC by looking at your box
I would swap Saveas for Golus since you need a good Frontline but that's just me. For now dump all your levels into Mirael. She'll be your carry.
Don't Frontline with Daimon, he's squishier than you think, I prefer putting Golus where he is cause you need a better tank. Replace Scarlet with Arden. You don't need 2 carries, you need more CC
This is my main formation and it works pretty good for last 8 chapters but now i need better formations for second and third team
That's why i am asking
If you wanna put someone in RC I suggest Silas? He seems to be your best option for now
I'm unfamiliar with this team comp, looks like a pretty old one since Gwyneth carry, but it does look solid. With Ferael and Rowan in this comp tho you gotta do something about Daimon comp. You don't have a 209 Grez so it's hard to construct an actual GB comp with what you have. And I don't think your deficit is high enough for Thoran cheese to work too many miracles, yeah I'm kinda stumped, sorry. I'll try tagging someone that can help,
@maiden marsh maybe?
Thank you for the suggestions. I'll move things around accordingly.
Yeah I noticed Daimon died a lot even though I put my best tank gear on him
Tbh i made this formation alone when i was testing but i totally open for new formations that can make it better
Yeah he's more of a carry early-mid and a subDPS/support later on, he's not as tanky as you think
got an E mehira?
I suggest checking out Redorb's endgame formation guide to familiarize yourself with what to start building: https://www.reddit.com/r/afkarena/comments/r8nr68/endgame_pve_formations_visual_guides_redorb/
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