lineup-help

[lunar quarry]

ok thx mate, will focus on ^^

[pale kettle]

Team comp? Mages cant survive bc they get deleted right after the tanks get deleted so mirael cant help

[slim portal]

Make her 140

[lost night]

Help

[pale kettle]

hopefully itll allow her to survive long enough to do an ult then...

oh ran out of xp now at 130 sadge

[slim portal]

You need a core carry too, make mirael 140

[pale kettle]

wait who do i replace on the team with mirael?

[slim portal]

New talene

You need only 1 core dps at higher level than your average RC at early game

[pale kettle]

ah ok thanks

time to spam retry lol

[slim portal]

Unless you can make Daimon to L+, mirael is a good pick until 160

[pale kettle]

if i get one more copy then yes i could make him L+ xD hopefully i get him at my next ten-pull

[slim portal]

Don’t forget the latest redeemable code #classic-updates

[pale kettle]

yep used it already, thanks tho

[safe hazel]

You got 3 copies of daimon already?

[pale kettle]

yeah, ones at E+ the other one at E

my oden has 2 E+ and one E(which i wouldve liked very much to have been daimon lol)

[safe hazel]

What chapter u at rn?

[pale kettle]

11-26

stuck on it xD

[safe hazel]

If you haven’t finished ch 12 make daimon L

[pale kettle]

Wait I thought I was supposed to save Daimon copies until I knew I could make him L+?

Any pvp changes to make? These are just my defaults for campaign

[wheat wigeon]

how to beat this?

[pale kettle]

Help :(

[slim portal]

Frontline: Thoran/Alna Brutus
Backline: Daimon Rowan Oden

[pale kettle]

Thanks almost worked I made a few changes

[west condor]

Who should use to progress in chapters

[pale kettle]

Read pins and stop ascending to L

[pale kettle]

Help :(

[slim portal]

Ferael/Arden instead of Oden, rowan > Lyca could help frontline survive longer and buying time for daimon to nuke. Try first

[dense bane]

Who Should i use instead of Arden in my team?

[amber beacon]

I'd use 2 tanks in front then Daimon, Silas, Oden/Arden/Tasi/Silv at the back depending on your enemy lineup

Golus + Hogan are great tanks at that level

[pale kettle]

who shld i replace? cant seem to kill it and my mirael dies before she can do any real dmg, even with rosaline

[dense bane]

Like this?

[amber beacon]

Yeah, just switch them around if needed. Remember to try different lineups for hard stages and try a lot.

[dense bane]

Alright, thank you

[pale kettle]

Tried Larson instead of rowan it worked thank you

[amber beacon]

Try putting Talene in front instead of Grez then use Nara to pull and cc Saveas.

Try:

Nara

Golus
Oden
Talene
Daimon

[pale kettle]

thx ill try it now

[amber beacon]

You could also try:
Daimon

Talene/Lyca
Arden/Oden
Golus
Arden/Oden

[woven mason]

@dense bane why do you bother yourself with arena comps? it will all change in a week when you change your heroes

[pale kettle]

the second one gave me better luck but still failed 🥲 ill spawn retry thanks

[tulip frost]

Hey, what lineup should i use ?
I use rowan and albedo as tank, Scarlet as carry and rosa and Luca as support

[drowsy sun]

can't win this non boss stage

[polar whale]

Anyone knowledgeable about Heroes of Esperia comps that can help me figure out an optimal team?

[pale kettle]

Help :(

[silk ibex]

Daimon

Lyca
Oden
Thoran
Nara

was my universal solution to this. You can play around with it and add in better units but I remember this as my guaranteed clear for this stage.

[mossy galleon]

Can someone help please

[pale kettle]

The Isabelle doesent die

[safe hazel]

Swap daimon and rowan

[mossy galleon]

@safe hazel I tried that.. Daimon dies so fast

[dense bane]

What do you mean arena comps? That was formation

[mossy galleon]

Shemira melts him

[safe hazel]

Does rowan have t2 boots and weapon

[mossy galleon]

Only boots

[safe hazel]

Maybe you could put him frontline instead of lyca then gwyn where rowan was

[mossy galleon]

Okay I'll try that thnx

[safe hazel]

That’s a really good deficit though I think most ppl at your stage have usually broke crystal cap already

Although I can’t say much about ppl who are ahead of me

[silk ibex]

Will not help. Int gear ignores dodge, remember? If Rowan's getting melted by Shemira the only solution is to just get him out of her range

[woven mason]

ah okey, but formation for what?

[silk ibex]

I mostly use Brutus to stall Shem or have Daimon wack her before she can use her Ult early on

Rowan can be super "tanky" against rangers and warriors tho at T2

[safe hazel]

yh that's why I said in front of hogan

[dense bane]

Idk actually just like general fighting in campaign and the king tower thing

[safe hazel]

morvus and hogan are rangers/tanks and athal will target brutus although i'm not sure how good rowan dodge really is

[waxen oasis]

helpp

[silk ibex]

It's stupidly good with some retry-spams. Sometimes he can dodge every attack and manage to Ult twice if you stall the Mages with Brutus

[woven mason]

it changes from battle to battle, you can t generalize team on your stage. You might do that at ch 35 but even then you ll have to change things

[dense bane]

Ohhh okok, this games so complicated 😂 i gotta learn more

[safe hazel]

I mean you can use a general lineup that works as your go to sometimes

[silk ibex]

This game is anger management therapy for me

There's not much of a general lineup, but slowly through experience learning which Heroes are effective for which enemies can help.

Like I'd frequently keep Daimon away from Estrilda's opening charge, use Brutus to stall Athalia/Kaz. Now that my Rowan's at T2 A I can use him as a FL against rangers and warriors

[safe hazel]

like
daimon
>brutus
eirron
>thoran/lyca
ferael
usually my go to I just swap some units around to counter the enemies @dense bane

[dense bane]

There’s sooo many heroes too so there’s alot of weaknesses and stuff you need to know

[silk ibex]

Asta's using that lineup cause he doesn't have Rowan, but Eironn can definitely work since it helps Daimon charge Ult

Some situational picks for Asta's comp are like Oden and Nara.

[safe hazel]

^

[silk ibex]

I'm using a similar comp with Rowan instead of Eironn since I have him and it's pretty much used in 90% of my stages now

The hard part is that the enemies get so strong you have to really fiddle with the right positions for all of them

Once you're confident that that comp will have a chance of winning you just retry-spam for RNG

[dense bane]

Is Brutus and thoran/lyca in the front?

[silk ibex]

Yes

[safe hazel]

yh

[dense bane]

Alright then i understand

[silk ibex]

Lyca is sacrificial most times cause you use her for her buff but can stall Estrilda for earlier stages.

But if you're still early on I hear she has a pretty ridiculous base attack so if she survives she can sometimes bait Tasi's banish or other similar debuffs that target the highest attack on the enemy team

[pale kettle]

Nothing is working I replayed many times :(

Nvm all of a sudden it worked stupid rng

[silk ibex]

It's not called the "310 attempt comp" for me for no reason

[pale kettle]

Do you thin I can clear fifteen today with my hero levels

[dense bane]

Do you have any idea What i could go for as a general lineup? @silk ibex @safe hazel

[silk ibex]

Golus and Hogan frontline, Arden and Oden for subDPS and CC, Daimon/Mirael carry.

[pale kettle]

Help :( this is so annoying the shemira doesent diee....

Also I was using nara before she did not die then as well

[silk ibex]

Also Nara for situational counterpicks

[dense bane]

thanks!

[silk ibex]

Use Brutus to stall Shemira?

[pale kettle]

Only four seconds immunity alna has seven

Nvm did it

[keen abyss]

can i get some help with my hoe teams pls

[pale kettle]

do you guys think its clearable? if so, could you reccomend me a team comp? my tanks melt, talene rarely revives once in a blue moon, rosaline doesnt help mira get her ult in time bc they die pretty quick

[silk ibex]

Try

Daimon

Golus
Mirael
Lyca
Arden

[pale kettle]

my daimon dies in like 5 seconds :(

golus is pretty much a oneshot, two shots usually but thats like with a sliver of health which the enemy golus takes care of = oneshot

[silk ibex]

Can Talene stall at all? Remember to switch your gear

[pale kettle]

talene lasts around half a second more than golus when switched w/ golus and roughly 13seconds when in lycas position

just tried(around 3 times):
lyca

golus
mira
talene
daimon

lasts longer but health bar is usually 40-50%, i tried to stall by putting duras grace on daimon for talenes revival but for some reason it doesnt always activate(or instantly gets remove)

will be retry spamming(though ive been doing it for around an hour with random positions so idk i feel like its a lvl thing)

[silk ibex]

Sometimes may seem like that, I only determine it's a Merc stage if vets tell me it's impossible for me

[pale kettle]

Help :(

[amber beacon]

I think that should work but it'll take time since Oden needs to do work. You can also try to swap Oden with Ferael

[pale kettle]

Okay

[pale kettle]

oh...

r u a vet? do u think its impossible? or maybe any other vets lurking here?

[silk ibex]

I'm still in early game

[pale kettle]

rip :(

[silk ibex]

@pale kettle Try Arden over Ferael rn imo, Ferael needs levels, but try both anyway]

Wrong tag rip

[pale kettle]

lmfao i was like wat

[silk ibex]

Hey that advice is still relevant for you

[pale kettle]

ferael out from rc rofl, rosaline in there rn

[silk ibex]

Rip

[amber beacon]

I feel bad for asking help for this stage but I can't find a proper comp.

Also tried eironn, lyca, nara and oden but that middle Isabella with Esteilda is annoying

[silk ibex]

Try to stall Estrilda with Brutus and hook Isabelle with Nara, those are your primary threats

If Nara gets charged down or killed before she hooks add in Lyca

Last slot is prolly Oden or Ferael

[dense bane]

I can’t get past this lvl

[amber beacon]

Swap nara and arden then change arden to Silvina since arden gets dumped on by the enemy's silvi.

[brittle parcel]

is there any clear for 38-32 without zolarth pls ?

[pale kettle]

any general lineup tip?

Check pins and stop ascending to L

[silk ibex]

Read the pinned beginner's guide in #classic-questions

[amber beacon]

Finally got it. 🥲

[thorny hearth]

Now get ready for 22-6.

[silk ibex]

Noice, meanwhile I'm retry-spamming a Baden/Mehira/Safiya/Numisu stage

Oh wait I cleared it, AFK Helper actually helped for once

[dense bane]

Thank you! Really helped alot

[pale kettle]

Help :(

[vague gale]

who is giving you trouble?

[silk ibex]

Prolly Isabelle and Estrilda, Numisu's just RNG

[pale kettle]

Yeee

Any counters

[amber beacon]

Does Alna have time to get immune? If not, Brutus would probably be better.

[pale kettle]

Alna immunes better then Brutus for now

[dense bane]

Can’t get past this either 😂

[pale kettle]

Seven seconds vs four seconds

[amber beacon]

Yeah but can Alna get immune? Like cast that skill? Cos they have Lyca and Estrilda. Doesn't Alna die immediately?

[pale kettle]

No it is rng sometimes she gets it sometimes she doesent

[amber beacon]

Don't use mages for stages with silvina. They'll just die immediately. Swap nara for arden and maybe Silas for silvina.

[pale kettle]

This game isn't giving me Rowans this is so dumb

[amber beacon]

I got my first Rowan today. Chapter 22 lmao

[dense bane]

Ohh ok, cause she gets behind them?

[amber beacon]

Yes

[pale kettle]

So I try Brutus instead of alna?

Brutus worked

Only three more stages left :( the ferael is troubling

[amber beacon]

Cool. Brutus is my go-to tank since I got him since his immunity is more reliable.

[amber beacon]

Try to hook him using Nara or use Lyca so you can fear faster.

[silk ibex]

Unless that Mage is dOgDe MaChInE rOwAn

[fervent compass]

I need help, what do I do from here? I can’t lvl daimon anymore

[rigid glacier]

Ok so I’m kinda stuck on what to do

[pale kettle]

whats the max level of your tasi ?

[rigid glacier]

I don’t know

[pale kettle]

you can still level her up right

[rigid glacier]

Soon I can get her to 4 star just gotta get a few more gladiator coins

I can level almost anyone up

My current goal is to get 1 star Saurus he’s almost there I have the copies

[pale kettle]

how are u stuck if you can level up heroes

[rigid glacier]

No like I’m stuck on what to do

[pale kettle]

other than campaign/tower pushing and pvp and all the adventure stuff like misty valley and peak of times... etc ?

[rigid glacier]

Yeah cause that got boring

[safe hazel]

you need a clear carry

what chapter are you at?

[rigid glacier]

23

My carry is gonna be Saurus soon I just need to get him to 1 star and for that I need 1 more l+ wilder fodder

My goal is a full wilder team

[pale kettle]

Last two stages :( any suggestions ?

[zinc island]

So I wouldn’t need healing?

[vague gale]

drop lorsan for kren or lyca

[pale kettle]

Okay

[kindred torrent]

I just beat chapter 15. Try using uhhh I forgot his name.. he sucks in the dudes close from back line

[pale kettle]

She? Nara?

[kindred torrent]

Nah it’s uh let me find him

Einron

[pale kettle]

Don't have him

[vague gale]

do u have nara?

nara pulling him usually delays his energy drain long enough to get a few ults off

[kindred torrent]

Is Nara worth building

[safe hazel]

with wilders you want raku as your carry

i've seen someone do wilders only and raku +30 is essential if you want to progress even slightly

[silk ibex]

You can't level a single Hero more than 40 levels higher than your RC level

[silk ibex]

She works at E

[pale kettle]

Last stage :(

[silk ibex]

Merc >:P

Jk it's prolly doable

[pale kettle]

I would have but I decided to make myself suffer a bit more

[kindred torrent]

I did it legit like 15 mins ago

[pale kettle]

Comp?

[kindred torrent]

Yeah lol

I’ll show u my normal lineup

I swap certain things in or out for things but yeah that’s the basic lineup I used

[pale kettle]

daimon everywhere

thats where all the copies are going!

[safe hazel]

swap brutus and talene

[pale kettle]

Umm I don't have talene

[safe hazel]

brutus should always be in front of daimon except for some stages

[kindred torrent]

Oh, thank you. I typically use lyca in front of daimon but I swap certain things for diff stage conditions

[pale kettle]

I guess I am very close to winning but I need to change something

[slim portal]

Hook Ferael, drop lyca for Ferael

[pale kettle]

if you get very close to winning keep retrying the same formation

[safe hazel]

I mean you can also do
ferael
>lyca
rowan
>brutus
daimon

[vague gale]

use the ainz......do it

[pale kettle]

......

[pale kettle]

i see you are a man of culture as well

I am keeping him for 16-1

[vague gale]

https://tenor.com/view/whisper-gif-20936283

[pale kettle]

i've been using ainz since chapter 4 it was.. painful

no regrets tho

[slim portal]

Wait, how do you borrow 5 short terms? Is it apprentice thingy?

[pale kettle]

yes

[safe hazel]

yh

[pale kettle]

apprentices can take 2 more instantly without approval

[slim portal]

But it once per week for Champaign right

[pale kettle]

but apprentice borrowing can only be used 20 times

[kindred torrent]

I only use my mentors typically. They’re like 100x better than my friends or guilds lol

[pale kettle]

yeah

[slim portal]

Thanks for clarity

[vague gale]

the first level of a new chapter is easier than the last lvl of the previous

[pale kettle]

I used it it is giving me results just like the previous one very close but shemira wins it in the end

[kindred torrent]

Keep using it rng will win it for u lol

[pale kettle]

Also the niru is alive

[slim portal]

It can’t be helped, Isabella is priority and daimon has to git gud

[vague gale]

have nara pull shemira

[kindred torrent]

Mind explaining what this means? Is the > front line?

[safe hazel]

yh

[pale kettle]

But I am pulling ferael ._.

[slim portal]

Yes, but your Ferael was focus on Isabell

You have to hook opponent ferael, so daimon can nuke his ultimate

[pale kettle]

Yesss I wonnn thank you!

[vague gale]

all ya need is a bit of citical thinking n rng

[pale kettle]

I got the thinking the rng pisses me

Which is why I keep changing comps even if I don't have to

I get confused sometimes

[vague gale]

i feel ya

[pale kettle]

Now time to scam myself in scamgazer

[slim portal]

chap 38 onward pre-nerf people running macro on PC for close to 300 retries clearing one fight

[vague gale]

had a fight in 38-8 where i saw a chance of victory if kren could ult so i macro reran the fight about 40x till it worked

[pale kettle]

Too bad I am on phone ._.

[vague gale]

u can macro phone

[pale kettle]

I will use auto clicker

[vague gale]

u shouldnt need it anytime soon

before ch 37 it was rare for me to need to try more than 15x

[safe hazel]

nah i'm ch 27 and 50+ retries are almost required for boss stages

[vague gale]

dang ur a heavy pusher then

[safe hazel]

when did you break your crystal?

[vague gale]

i often let the campaign sit for a while then come back

i dont remember tbh

was like a year ago so I forget which chapter

[drowsy gazelle]

Huh, r5?

[vague gale]

Nah R1

[silk ibex]

I almost have enough to break my Crystal, I'm surprisingly lacking Gold. Dust around 20k away for 5A Lv240

[safe hazel]

gold is a real struggle

xp is overflowing like crazy though idk if that is just me

[brazen cosmos]

Could anyone help me with a cursed team. top 55% i dont have quite a few heroes for it.. working on it now of course.

[vague gale]

nah this shit get ridiculous after a while lmao

[safe hazel]

LOL

[pale kettle]

Wait gold is required for ascension ._.

[drowsy sun]

no, for lvling your heros

[silk ibex]

I don't even know if I can buy Dust after reset, I fucked up lol @safe hazel

[safe hazel]

wdym

[silk ibex]

@safe hazel I spent all my Gold on levelling lol, cause I got so much dust in one go

[safe hazel]

rip I think I ran completely out of gold before as well it's pain

what rank are you in HoE btw @silk ibex

[lost night]

Help

[gentle gulch]

Need help with formations for the hero's of esperia event.

[safe hazel]

dw for now HoE is very hard to progress in for now since a lot of late game players haven't ranked up yet

you really should do daimon comp + ainz comp though

[gentle gulch]

I just want one frame. That's all.

I've made it to Silver5

If I stay there. Will I get the silver 5 frame when the event ends?

[safe hazel]

Yes this is my lineups currently if it helps

I’m in silver 1 btw

[gentle gulch]

Alright thanks

[safe hazel]

swap brutus and the horse guy though but that can be replaced by any tank

[dense bane]

I can’t make it work!!!

Hellpp

[deep solar]

Try putting in Mirael talene and Arden

[silk ibex]

Hook Isabelle instead of Silvina. Use a mage to bait her.

[dense bane]

ohhh alright, whaat does isabelle do?

[tight juniper]

Deal massive damage during her ult.

[dense bane]

ohhh ok so thats why i hook her away from the rest?

[silk ibex]

One Ult one-shots your whole team, technically OP

Nara's hook locks her down for a bit

[dense bane]

yeeez thats very bad lmao, also what does the elder tree do?

[polar whale]

First time I encounter a team like this, not sure how to deal with it. There's just so much healing/shielding and lots of summons.

[arctic laurel]

How the hell, from all the previous attempts, the one where I frontline Arden has the best results?

[silk ibex]

Numisu and Arden are RNG. Kaz (and to some extent Arden Ult) is probably your issue. Brutus can stall her.

Also Rowan's Cart will not reach Daimon with that position

[arctic laurel]

@silk ibex nice ch29, sir

[silk ibex]

Yes, I got like 140k Dust from using all of them at the same time, felt nice :P

[polar whale]

Numisu bloats the map with totems and I don't have enough dmg, trying to stall with Nara. Ferael doesn't really do much in 5 if I put Rowan middle. In fact Rowan has been feeling rather useless for a while now.

[silk ibex]

Do you have Rowan SI30?

[polar whale]

I'm chapter 15, I don't even have one SI10. I've got only 2 Rowans either way.

[silk ibex]

Rip, Rowan might only work as a Silvina stall for you now

[odd frigate]

is there any way I can beat this?

I've been stuck for a while now 😐

[safe hazel]

daimon
>brutus
rowan
>thoran
ferael

[silk ibex]

Brutus to stall Thane, you need Ferael to CC Tasi, take off Ferael's weapon

[odd frigate]

thanks!

[safe hazel]

np

[odd frigate]

thank you 😄

[arctic laurel]

Anyone got any tips? Vurk is an issue.

[safe hazel]

ainz probably won't have any use for you rn tbh but make sure to not engrave ainz and daimon rn @odd frigate

[odd frigate]

who should I engrave?.. cuz I kinda did engrave Ainz ;-;

[safe hazel]

stop engraving altogether

ainz engraves are very strong but he takes a lot of investment to be good

[odd frigate]

yeah I started engraving him cuz I read that he is a top priority

[safe hazel]

yeah he is just requires 209 himself albedo 303 and arthur 203 to be strong

203 could work though

look at =furniture if you haven't

[cloud nexus]

(22nd Jan 2022 - removed Gwyneth, added Scarlet)

Bok's Guide for Beginner Furniture Wishlists (PVE).
Ainz Grezhul Lucretia Mishka should stay on, even if you don't have a single copy of them. Swap the rest around depending on your current ascensions (ask if you're unsure).
Faction tower furniture are of lower priority than campaign ones (notice the arrow before LB tower). You might not want to do some faction tower furniture in favour of other modes, depending on what you're interested in.
Use red cards (aka Mythic Order Forms) on Grezhul > Ainz/Skriath/Alna/Mishka > Lucretia.

Initial furniture wishlist for beginners
Ainz 9, Grezhul 9, Lucretia 9, Mishka 9, for the remaining 6 empty slots take your pick from below depending on which heroes are closest to being Ascended
Thoran 3 or 9 (notes), Daimon 3, Raku 3, Oden 9, Silas 3, Albedo 3, Scarlet 9, Ferael 9, Skriath 3, Kren 3, Leonardo da Vinci 3, Silas 9, Kren 9, Raine 3, Leonardo da Vinci 9, Prince of Persia 3, Arthur 3, Merlin 9, Nemora 9, Alna 9 (notes), Zolrath 3, Brutus 3, Estrilda 3 (Dark Nemora TR) > Morrow 3 (LB tower), Tidus 3 and Skreg 9 (Mauler tower), Eironn&Tasi 3 (Wilder tower), Desira 3 and Izold 9 (GB tower)

Notes
Thoran - 9 reduces retry RNG; I advocate going for early event 5* Call frags (after Rowan and 2 carries' +30s). If you're willing to put up with more retries, then stop at 3.
Alna - 9 deserves red cards but the problem is that she's usually the second celepog for beginners (Lucretia is usually first to be done). This means you'll only get her to Ascended after about 1 year of playing, hence her "low" priority.
If you eventually gain an interest in competitive AE (Top 100 ranks) and/or PVP, ask other people for recommendations. This guide does not focus on those.

[odd frigate]

oh so my furniture wishlist is pretty solid

[odd frigate]

its going to take a while to fully garisson albedo and ainz. im almost done with Arthur tho

[dense bane]

When do i unlock furniture?

[odd frigate]

chapter 18 and 1 ascended hero if im not mistaken

[safe hazel]

yh you shouldn't garrison both anyway rn since dim event is coming soon

[dense bane]

Jeez Well i have 9 chapters to go then

What can i do here?

[silk ibex]

Vedan and Isabelle are your issues right now, Golus can tank Vedan better. Might wanna use Arden/Oden instead of Silas since he's tucked up in the corner

[odd frigate]

one more question, when does Farael starts doing dmg? Cuz I've seen some insane stuff but still mine is kinda weak

[safe hazel]

he isn't meant to just one of the best cc in the entire game

[dense bane]

I’ll try with Arden first, and then Oden. I’m right wirh hooking isabelle right? Even though shes in the middle? @silk ibex

[odd frigate]

oh yeah he is amazing CC wise.

[safe hazel]

once he is 221 and with minimum 3F he becomes insane as well

[silk ibex]

@odd frigate He's the best GB support yeah, remember not to equip a Mythic weapon on him. I dunno when enemy Haste catches up but right now it makes him Terrify faster, could save you some grief against Tasi/Fawkes/Raine

[gentle gulch]

How do I get this chest?

[safe hazel]

collect all the element orbs and go to the fire one

[odd frigate]

I'm going to need so much dust for 221 😮‍💨

[safe hazel]

yeah but becomes very good once you have him

[silk ibex]

Btw he doesn't need it since I just got him to 221, don't have 3F and reached Ch29. Before that with SI10 he's good at synergizing with Daimon's skills and of course his Terrify is game-changing

[gritty moon]

Can I get some recommendations on how to beat this lineup?

[gentle gulch]

Should I?

[royal stag]

NOOOOOO

[gentle gulch]

I need progression so bad though I have 0 ascended hero's and I'm on ch20

[royal stag]

M+ Rowan doesnt help to progress

[gentle gulch]

Which one of these graveborn a should I make mythic+?

I'm gonna feed my shemeria

[royal stag]

Show ur GB box

[royal stag]

U cant make anyone M u need 4 copies

[gentle gulch]

fuuuuuuuck shit takes a long asss time

[royal stag]

And dont star bunt for any hero

[gentle gulch]

what do u mean?

I'm not familiar with that term "star bunt"

[safe hazel]

star hunt

[gentle gulch]

oh ok

[royal stag]

Star hunt my bad

[gentle gulch]

u talking about stargazing right? right now i'm only focused on lycricia (or however u spell her name) cuz I alreagy got the twins at E+

[chilly lava]

and mortas?

[gentle gulch]

already got him

[chilly lava]

ok nice go for lucretia

[gentle gulch]

although I do not get what the point of getting mortas was. He's literally fucking USELESS at E. Like why would the beginners guide tell you to get 1 copy of him and then move on to focus on lycricia?

[chilly lava]

it s like twins it s a must have for begginers

and usefull for boss

[gentle gulch]

what bosses?

does Mortas need to be E+ to be effective?

[west walrus]

Just E

[zinc island]

Hii

[west walrus]

Twins only have to be E as well

[gentle gulch]

What level do they need to be than to be effective?

[chilly lava]

he is utile on twisted raelm

[west walrus]

More than level one

[gentle gulch]

i mean like 200? 160? 180?

[west walrus]

So just needs to be on your crystal

Literally any time.

[solid stirrup]

I forgot what u said about healing but no u don’t usually need healing u can just brute force stages

[west walrus]

Even at level 1 they're effective. They just probably won't survive.

[zinc island]

It was kinda needed here lol💀

Golus was trying to die so bad👁
💧

[solid stirrup]

idk personally the only healing I used is rowan but I mean it works ig

[polar whale]

Is this Talene about to 1v9?

[zinc island]

Yes 😍

Not shemira…

[solid stirrup]

P sure u win that

[fervent compass]

Any suggestions on what team comp to form? I dont think im using all the best units properly.

[solid stirrup]

Read beginner guide in #classic-questions it tells u how to level ur heroes and what carry to use

But I mean using ur top 5 units is prob good too

[chilly lava]

use rosaline

[fervent compass]

Who to remove for her?

[chilly lava]

the old man

and if it don t work bc u need control remove racoon

put ainz?

[amber beacon]

Nvm beat it by putting Daimon in front xd

[chilly lava]

use ainz and daimon front xd

[north topaz]

can someone who's im 37 or 38 show me their 5 team comps?

[sly forge]

I'm planning on making a section on AFK Helper for Cursed Realm.
What information would you guys find relevant for entries?
Here is an example of what I am currently thinking:
https://afkhelper-testing.nax.is/upload/cursed_realm.php

[warm sky]

Which three teams should I use for HoE currently using ainz, lucretia 5-pull and GB team. But I'm not sure they're optimal for pvp.

[wide breach]

That’s probably as good as it gets for you. Lucretia cycle is better than pull but you need twins and Ezizh ascended

[pale kettle]

not sure how to kill that mage asap, nothing targets her

One ult, she wipes this team

[astral wagon]

y is rowan in the front

i usually use nara to stop her

[woven fable]

Rowan can be in the front, he is a pseudo-tank, even at this level somewhat. You can put nemora opposite her to charm her, but ye, Nara is the best against Isa. Something like Ferael, Tasi or Morrow could work as well.

[west condor]

Who should i use? For pve

[harsh urchin]

The isa experience.

[pale kettle]

I did it

Got passed a few more boss waves

[harsh urchin]

Nice

[pale kettle]

I think scarlet and daimon are equally good at carrying

I can’t pick one over the other

[harsh urchin]

Daimon is best in the long run

[pale kettle]

I got like 5 copies of scarlet

[harsh urchin]

Depends on the stage

[pale kettle]

On accident from summoning

[harsh urchin]

How do people get so many i have 0

[pale kettle]

I need one copy of scarlet to ascend her, I need one copy of daimon to acsend her

I did a 10x draw and got no elites 😩😩😩

[harsh urchin]

Hope for daimon

[pale kettle]

I hope for a double and both of them, but my luck is never that good

[harsh urchin]

When you get a 4f card put it on gb, same with faction scrolls

[pale kettle]

I’m not sure what ur saying

[pale kettle]

Oh ok

[dapper portal]

Which character should I focus on

Also the best line up for me

[harsh urchin]

When you get a card from the summoning where you can choose the 4 factions, choose graveborn and only use your faction scrolls on graveborn aswell

[tight juniper]

Reset Shemira's levels and that's a shit amount of legendaries. Did you read the guides here? You wasted fodder to get heroes to L and M+.

[pale kettle]

I came back to the game from a really long break and got 10k diamonds from mail and extra stuff and summon spree

I got a triple elite and it was all good heroes

The problem is, the 2 heroes I wanted I didn’t get and that was daimon and Lucius for my front and backline but then scarlet carried me anyways

[harsh urchin]

You shouldnt get heroes to M+? I dont think that was in the guide

[dapper portal]

That's alright,
Early game mistakes, trying to correct some of them

[tight juniper]

Ascension at m+ is relatively not good as you couldn't get them to ascended, which is a waste of fodder. It's really the same rule as to not make too much L's.
@dapper portal Well, at least you learned about your mistake. Just good luck clearing it up, it's going to take time.

[harsh urchin]

I see

Its not gonna take that long tbh its only 1 L+ fodder its really not that huge for me

[tight juniper]

Technically 2 e+ and 2 L+ fodder to get a hero from e+ to M+ (with 4 copies ofc)

[tawdry fjord]

I just started 3 days ago and I need help with this one my wukong keeps dying too early and it concludes everyone dying in the end what can I do to prevent that I'd love to listen to any advice

[west path]

I hit a grind still against this enwmy lineup. I can just not get past the tree as my dmg sucks, and my pop does in a few hits, so he manages to ult once, if that.

How would I start to build against this?

[prisma needle]

Amy formation suggestions I can try while I wait to be able to lvl up?

[lunar gulch]

Try
Silvina
Lyca
Silas/tasi/rowan
Thoran
Daimom

[prisma needle]

Will give it a go, ty

[prisma needle]

No luck, i get blown up so fast 😭

[harsh urchin]

Can someone help me

This totem guy and arden are so annoying

[harsh urchin]

The first L+ fodder to bring him to mythic wasnt a waste and the copies werent a waste either so only 1 L+ fodder

[tawdry fjord]

Totem guy I think his name is nomisu something

[lost night]

Help

[pale kettle]

Hi, r there any vets that can tell me if this is possible? I've tried all sorts of formations but they don't live long enough...

[pale kettle]

Just a fyi from my experience, you have a elite Daimen and he can’t solo take down the one with the gun (forgot his name) and savius

Which means I suggest more damage in your back line regardless how long they live. Savius can melt your team so put your tankiest person on top front

Yep been trying that, but they all die and max daimon can get in is one ult and then he dies... even Dura's Grace won't help him for some reason

I been on a lot today and scarlet already carried me 2 chapters… use her… I know for a fact if used right she is 2x more useful than a elite daimen because my elite daimen stands no chance

But my scarlet is 1v5ing everyone

scarlet dies before she can even fill her ult up halfway for some reason

Did you try her in the bottom left? Farthest away from savius?

Her area of effect skill does enormous damage

Yeah the gun dude kills her

And if she does that and ults, she can one shot savius

Show me all your heroes

That mage in front line is why she’s dying, you need a better tank

[pale kettle]

ironically, shes the only one to last longer than the rest...

If you put the tank in bottom then savius melts everything so you need another tank to beat that. I suggest resonating crystal or reset a hero

You gotta summon a tank asap to pass campaign

So put a tanky hero on your wishlist

ah okay thanks

Btw…

I got back on the alt which I been on all day and passed 2 chapters… I had such a bad comp because I had like 5 mages so I literally reset everyone got as much diamonds as possible for ‘coming back to afk arena’ then summoned with 10k diamonds and scrolls and got like 5 copies of scarlet

[harsh urchin]

Why are u using so many tanks

[pale kettle]

to buy time for daimon

which is failing

So resetting all your heroes and getting a good frontline and backline isn’t a bad option. I passed 2 chapters for that

[harsh urchin]

He isnt using any mage

Other than scarlet but shes in the back

[pale kettle]

That’s my pic

Ur getting confused like I just did lmao. I looked at my pic

[harsh urchin]

Ofc its failing u dont have any damage

[mental sun]

Who can I switch Misha out with?

[harsh urchin]

Oops, well then my point still stands hes not using any mage

[mental sun]

Me is mage lover

[pale kettle]

oh... so its a level thing?

[pale kettle]

Get lyca out of there

She doesn’t do you any good, you have no damage

[harsh urchin]

No its not its just that tanks dont do enough damage

[pale kettle]

oh... welp the tanks die in around 3seconds roughly so... what shld i do

just pray for a better tank? or is skregg fine for now?

btw sick boy im not disregarding ur opinion just asking for more opinions to get the best answer

Put scarlet and daimen in and put your best tank in front of savius and buy time for them 2 by putting tanks all around. I used this tactic for 2 chapters so can’t tell me it doesn’t do something

both golus and grezhul are my best tanks

[harsh urchin]

And also yes it might be a bit of a level problem since youre leveling your heroes wrong

[pale kettle]

wait what? im just levelling my fodder though?

[harsh urchin]

Where is your hogan

[pale kettle]

I know, just here to help :)

[pale kettle]

according to the guide iirc it was one carry then 4 fodder? id reset daimon once i have L+ on all fodders tho

as for wheres hogan... i dont have an E copy lol

[harsh urchin]

Prioritize hogan over anything then since youre now level capped for all your heroes

[pale kettle]

ah ok, do i put him onto my wishlist...? i suppose not right?

[harsh urchin]

Is that even possible?

[pale kettle]

yes?

[tight juniper]

You can put fodders in your wishlist but it's not suggested to do so.

[pale kettle]

got it

[harsh urchin]

As of your lineup I would try
Arden
Golus
Talene
Lyca
Daimon

@pale kettle

[zinc island]

Should I

[mental sun]

Who can I replace Misha with bc she's currently my weakest member

[pale kettle]

thx ill try it

[amber beacon]

Golus or Hogan. Also you don't have a carry. Level Wukong and/or Mirael

[mental sun]

I had wu kong then got talene she's been carrying for me usually last one alive and pm solos

[amber beacon]

Your other heroes can be changed. Stick with Talene, Golus/Hogan, Wukong/Mirael then 2 supports

[mental sun]

Talene and silas have been working really well together so ig mirael silas and tasi in the back

[amber beacon]

That could work. You'll also need to change it up depending on enemy comps. Silvina and Arden in particular are very useful in some stages.

[molten mantle]

Hello

[pale kettle]

Yes send box again

[molten mantle]

That's my box

[pale kettle]

Have you ever come close to winning but then died like in the end moments

[molten mantle]

Yea several times

[pale kettle]

You should try replaying it is rng heavy

[molten mantle]

I'd get down to one backline wiz or the brute dude that spins would be the last one and he'd ult and kill me

I've been trying that

I might just need to sit here and level up more

[pale kettle]

Naah the power difference isn't huge

It is almost in the range of 50%

What if u play talene back row and thoran front remove scarlett

Keep daimon where he is

[molten mantle]

My king isn't built very good

[molten mantle]

That's why he dies in almost 1 shot

[pale kettle]

U already have two mythic at 13 nice I only had one

I guess wait for someone else cuz I don't know what talene does anyways so can't think of a strat

[solid stirrup]

mishka daimon rowan oden scarlett

@molten mantle

[silk burrow]

yes. ascending to L+ is fine for questions unrelated to lineup go to #classic-questions

[molten mantle]

Like this?

[solid stirrup]

and stop making random shit L except daimon

ye that would probably work

[molten mantle]

Still lost

[solid stirrup]

and go ahead and take shemira off RC she’s useless

[molten mantle]

And wym making random stuff l?

[solid stirrup]

mishka rosaline

[pale kettle]

If it was Close keep replaying

[solid stirrup]

u can also put rowan front line and have daimon backline

[silk burrow]

making random heroes legendary

[molten mantle]

I'm not though I'm making the ones I use legendary

[silk burrow]

yes that’s still random

[molten mantle]

I lost that almost instantly

[pale kettle]

Yeah u don't ascend to L unless you can get to L+

[molten mantle]

I can get to l+

For rose just not the wolf lady

[solid stirrup]

dunno man, it’s hard to say what to use without seeing what’s happening

u could also maybe go rosaline scarlet and just don’t use daimon altogether

[molten mantle]

That's what's happening

[silk burrow]

why wouldn’t you L+ then

[pale kettle]

What does talene do is she a healer ?

[molten mantle]

Cuz I can't level up or anything plus I wanna ascend her later on

[molten mantle]

Yea she does crazy healing whenever she dies

[pale kettle]

Umm try removing oden and play talene front row and swap rowan and oden position

[molten mantle]

Ok

Want me to record what happens?

[pale kettle]

Naah just see if you come close or not

[molten mantle]

Not even close to close

[solid stirrup]

it doesn’t look like scarlett is doing anything so I’d say just focus on using either scarlett or daimon and just run tanks+ supports to make sure whichever u use ults

[molten mantle]

Scarlet is kinds what makes it come close

[solid stirrup]

like what I meant is having both daimon and scarlett is not necessary, both are carries and u only need one

[molten mantle]

Maybe I should wait till I ascend someone or till all my people are 140+

[solid stirrup]

U just need to live long enough for one carry to ult

it’s definitely winnable

[pale kettle]

I think remove scarlett I haven't used her after chapter 10 or something

Put daimon back and Rosaline for daimon and use thoran front

[solid stirrup]

also do u notice how daimon on the front line just dies, when he ults he gets a shield but he’s dying before the shield goes off

[magic oriole]

nah you need some more crowd control to support your daimon

[pale kettle]

What artifacts are u using for daimon?

[magic oriole]

oh and yeah daimon needs either call or eye

[molten mantle]

The drape for daimon

[solid stirrup]

go call

listen man choose ONE to run, daimon carry or scarlett carry

and then fill in with cc support/ tanks to make sure whichever one u pick lives long enough to ult multiple times

[molten mantle]

Hmm

What art does rowan use?

[pale kettle]

I can tell from experience daimon is best carry hands down

For now atleast

[solid stirrup]

the important one is call on daimon or scarlett whichever u choose

rowan doesn’t rlly matter u use him for his potion carts

[magic oriole]

try mishka for talene, and then oden for scarlet. eye on oden and call on daimon. you can try eye on daimon as well if you are able to

[magic oriole]

rowan is really important for daimon survivability

[pale kettle]

I am gonna go farm peaks of time for essence hopefully u win

[molten mantle]

I died so fast

[magic oriole]

tho rosaline is totally useless

[solid stirrup]

yes the potions… what artifact u put on him doesn’t matter that much especially at his stage where he doesn’t have many

[molten mantle]

It was almost instant

[magic oriole]

with what

unfortunately, it may be the faction bonus that's keeping him alive long enough though

maybe oden for rosa and keep scarlet would help more in terms of boosting daimon

[molten mantle]

I didn't even kill one that Time

[solid stirrup]

if he puts oden in all it does is portal everyone on daimon, making sure daimon gets one shot and he loses

bc he is still using BOTH scarlett and daimon with daimon frontlining

[magic oriole]

nah it can do one of 2 things, either portal to daimon, or portal away from daimon. if daimon dies to quickly, portal away is needed. if his team gets wiped, portal to will charge his ult faster

[solid stirrup]

it portals onto the stronger front line. Daimon vs talene which would it go to?

[magic oriole]

where'd you see that

[solid stirrup]

it’s literally what always happens

[magic oriole]

targets the strongest enemy and dumps them on the weakest enemy

[magic oriole]

alright maybe try your original with mishka instead of rosaline

that might stall the damage on your daimon. if that doesn't work, try daimon backline

[molten mantle]

I'll try your team

[solid stirrup]

put daimon same side as rowan

[magic oriole]

yeah daimon away from brutus. brutus's roar is devastating

[magic oriole]

yeah rosaline is doing nothing

[molten mantle]

Should I use talene?

Atleast to heal?

[solid stirrup]

u can try putting rowan back middle and just use thoran instead of rosaline

[magic oriole]

btw do you have brutus? maybe try him as the tank. also try swapping daimon and rowan in that team. btw, i recommend getting lyca nara and brutus asap if you don't already have them. they are amazing even at no investment

also can you show us all of your heroes? I think you can do better than elite thoran or elite grezhul

[molten mantle]

How do I look at previous reply?

Well anyway I beat it

I user talene to heal daimon and scarlet and there ults won it

[magic oriole]

lyca instead of belinda for sure. also astar instead of shemi. I'd even say silas instead of grez or thoran but that is pushing it a little

[molten mantle]

All I did was take out rose and put talene and talene just kept healing daimon and scarlet and they both ulted and I won

[magic oriole]

for the future, when you have lyca you can get ults in a lot faster, so comps might be a little more reliable. also oden will teleport enemies before they get a hit in

[molten mantle]

Scarlet and daimon work good together

[magic oriole]

yeah i get it i meant for you resonating crystal

[molten mantle]

Oh ok so who should I put in there?

[magic oriole]

as i said, swap belinda for lyca and shemira for astar

[molten mantle]

Yup done

Maybe I should try the rest of the floors when I get a ascended hero?

Cuz that took way to long lol

[magic oriole]

yeah, but it seems your rowan is closest to ascending.... also why are you not ascending rosa to l+?

[molten mantle]

I don't have the exp to do anything with it

[molten mantle]

So might as well wait incase something else comes along that I can make happen right away you know?

[magic oriole]

eh? in general you don't want legendary heroes. l+ is much better in every case. If you for some reason need fodder and can't wait, sacrifice gwyn, belinda or thane. I wouldn't recommend it, but rosa is better than them if you have a good scarlett

[molten mantle]

So I'll just l+ her now?

[molten mantle]

??

[magic oriole]

yeah in general, it's best to wait until you can L+ before you ascend to L (not in this case tho since it's your first 5 heroes). There is really no reason to keep a hero at L tho

[molten mantle]

OK

[pale kettle]

Is this a good lineup?

[molten mantle]

Also all I need is one lb fondler at l+ and I can make rowan ascended?

[magic oriole]

if it performs with lyca better than with rowan then yeah. you might want to try lorsan as well

[pale kettle]

Okay I will give both a shot

Also will mortas find a place here? I am not sure

[magic oriole]

yeah i just saw him. he could be better than oden but you'd need to test that

[pale kettle]

Okay thank you

[magic oriole]

I think you can safely get rid of daimon too tho

just add another support. Since you don't have daimon's 3f, there isn't that much of a reason for him to be there

[pale kettle]

So mortas instead of daimon?

[magic oriole]

yeah try that. you can always stop the battle before it ends and try again

[pale kettle]

Okay nice thank you

[molten mantle]

Who should I ascend first scarlet or rowan?

[pale kettle]

I think I got my personal high with mortas and twins lol

[magic oriole]

scarlet if possible. rowan doesn't need anything more than his si

[molten mantle]

Oh ok

Well all I need is 2 lb fondlers at l+ and I can ascend both of them

[magic oriole]

i don't think i saw a second e+ scarlet tho?

[molten mantle]

Don't I only need 1 e+? To ascend?

[magic oriole]

nah u need 2

[molten mantle]

So To ascend I need 2 e+ to make a m+ into a A right?

[magic oriole]

more ascension on your carry is never bad. also i'd recommend always pulling for graveborn since overall they are strongest as a faction

[pale kettle]

Should I try same formation against soren

[magic oriole]

nah well you need a total of 8 copies of a hero, which is 2 e+ copies to get them to L+ and then 2 e+ copies to go from mythic+ to ascended

[molten mantle]

Oh ok

[magic oriole]

yeah. here you might see better results with someone other than lyca tho

[molten mantle]

Sorry I'm still kinda new it's my 3rd day playing lol

[pale kettle]

Rowan maybe?

[magic oriole]

oh dw about it at all... I'm the one with no life memorizing every aspect of the game lol

[pale kettle]

But lycas lowering defense and initial haste is kinda nice

[magic oriole]

rowan could work. so could lorsan. also IDK what you use alna for, but i doubt it's for much

[zinc island]

Hello😙, it is with horrible pleasure that I’m stuck after sweeping the mess last few stages in chapter 10

[pale kettle]

Lol she carried as a front tank early game lol

I mean I am still early game but like previous chapters

[magic oriole]

yeah they are but in my experience she dies too quickly. if she survives till the end for you then maybe she's better than the damage buff lorsan grants

[pale kettle]

:o okay will try both

[zinc island]

think y’all could help me a bit?👁💧👁

I need it desperately👁💧👁

[magic oriole]

sure, what specifically do you need help with

[zinc island]

Setting up a team for this stage

Thats all I have in place rn

Here’s box.

[magic oriole]

daimon, lyca, oden, silas, eironn and then experiment by switching eironn for a tank if they die too quickly. also ascend your daimon

[zinc island]

To what tier

[magic oriole]

highest you can

[zinc island]

I’m kinda fucked there bc I thought ascending to L and stopping was a bad move.

Unless in this case no.

[magic oriole]

well first in this case no, and second you have another e+ daimon so you will get him to L+

[zinc island]

Oh alr

Tysm^^

Quick question though-

[magic oriole]

ye?

[harsh urchin]

What can i do here

[zinc island]

How would I place them.

?

[magic oriole]

in the order I wrote them in, but you can move them around however works. my idea was to get daimon away from the main enemy dps(sav), stall the dps with eironn and have daimon ult a bunch. also ic you haven't ascended daimon to l+ lol

[zinc island]

Kk

I am just gimme a sec 😭😭

[magic oriole]

twins are useless(in this case, especially early game in campaign). I'd sub them for oden, put lyca where hogan is, and try again. maybe awakened talene instead of arden

[harsh urchin]

Ill try

[pale kettle]

Yoo lol I am on the same stage

Tell me how u beat them I will copy you

[harsh urchin]

I dont think its gonna work like this since im doing absolutely nothing to isa

[magic oriole]

you pray lol. also try putting daimon somewhere else and using nara on isabella

[pale kettle]

Did u pop some of your dust chests to level up your heroes ?

[magic oriole]

i have been doing that constantly (on my alt), and yes dust runs out fast at some point. Pretty sure patience is the better strat

[pale kettle]

I need to level up two more heroes past 140 I might pop some

[magic oriole]

i mean the real question is do you have enough gold/exp to max your carry

[magic oriole]

if not it's just a waste

[pale kettle]

My carry is only M+ lol

[harsh urchin]

Daimon
Awakened talene
Silas
Thoran
Nara

[harsh urchin]

Mine is too

[pale kettle]

My carry is only L

[pale kettle]

Anything other then awakened talene :(

[magic oriole]

yeah i mean do you have enough gold and exp to upgrade them 20 levels once their level cap increases

idk what level your carry is rn tho lol

[pale kettle]

I guess yeah my carry is only like 173 and have a bunch of gold chests waiting to be popped

[harsh urchin]

Which should not be possible if youre folllowing the beginners guide in pins in #classic-questions

[pale kettle]

Lol I did it cuz I was frustrated

[magic oriole]

nah there's no problem with having a good carry at L

[pale kettle]

It doesn’t rly matter though because my path is planned out

[harsh urchin]

U didnt get her at your Temple summons?

[pale kettle]

This is my 5th account. Lineups are still a problem no matter where your at

[pale kettle]

Hehe nope

[harsh urchin]

Rip

[pale kettle]

Oh I about forgot

[harsh urchin]

Try afkhelper irs a site

[magic oriole]

lyca or rowan instead of awakened talene then

[pale kettle]

Everyone there flexing their ainz and awakened talene nope I will pass

The codes, need to do those rn…. I literally went from chapter 8 to 11 in one day

All credit to scarlet

[magic oriole]

awakened talene isn't a very good hero... in fact after trying to use her, she is very difficult to get working. but she's nice to try in a pinch

[magic oriole]

oof... you'll be stuck a while if you're not using daimon

[pale kettle]

I have both in my heroes… that’s why I literally haven’t hit any roadblocks

The combo is unstoppable. I’m so underleveled but it doesn’t matter

If one dies then the other just 5v1’s no problem lol

[harsh urchin]

Oh yeah ofc

[pale kettle]

Scarlet on the other hand has a skill with a circle that does insane damage. Legit 1 shot everyone with one skill so it don’t matter till chapter 13-16

[harsh urchin]

My rc is at 160

[pale kettle]

Mine is 140 rip

[zinc island]

Flop😍

[pale kettle]

How are your heroes levelled up so high in only chapter sixteen

[harsh urchin]

Its not that hard tbh

[magic oriole]

try using a tank instead of eironn

[harsh urchin]

My daimon is 180

But cant get her to 200 because it costs 25k dust

[pale kettle]

Dang I am broke

[zinc island]

I was finna try using grez,lucius,Thoran, or Brutus-

[magic oriole]

brutus is your best bet for sure. id put him where lyca is and lyca in back corner

[zinc island]

Grez is ass to me rn💀 it’s only bc i@ early game

Kk

[magic oriole]

yeah grez is useless early game. so is thoran... kinda

[west condor]

Who should i use for chapt 8-40

[zinc island]

Brutus got one-shotted with artifact

I’m.

[harsh urchin]

Artifact doesnt change much if hes already getting one shot

[zinc island]

Rii-

I passed with this team..

3 tanks…

[magic oriole]

wow surprising how much raku did considering investment

[zinc island]

Raku is a beast for me💀

Dude be snatching daimons one shots on god.

Thoran was only there for the attack boost😭

[magic oriole]

eironn daimon scarlet rosa mishka but also you'd do well with heroes like brutus and lyca

[pale kettle]

This is how much scarlet carried me, 2 chapters and this is the last level to the 3rd chapter.. I need lineup help and then after this I did 3 chapters in one day

[zinc island]

Same 3 every time💀

[pale kettle]

I got mine to legendary for the fact that I wanted to complete this chapter instead of waiting… I’m not here to progress super fast and rush through the game lol.

Multiple accounts, just having fun

[magic oriole]

i mean yeah... I made my alt specifically to see how fast I could go. got to chapter 12 in 1 day or something like that

[zinc island]

We both on chapter 10.

👁💧👁

Also, Wukong??

[magic oriole]

ive been quite lazy since and am only on chapter 25 on server 934. it's been 42 days

[pale kettle]

I use Wu Kong because at the start of you put him in the backline he can stun the enemy at the start of the match for around 1-1.5s which buys very good time for my scarlet and daimen to ult then the battle is over, problem is here the healing and their damage output

[zinc island]

Ahh alr

[pale kettle]

He’s very good to stun

Other than that he’s useless and I would never use him

[magic oriole]

wukong is good earlygame

[zinc island]

It’s also funny how we’re on the same stage.

Thoran has to go now😭😭

[pale kettle]

you have better levels and heroes with accession, you’ll pass it first

It’s not possible for me to pass it yet, I’ve tried so many times

[zinc island]

I PASSED IT.

LETS GO.

[pale kettle]

Only if I had a front line lol

[magic oriole]

daimon lol

[zinc island]

Golus as a frontline fodder is killer tbh.

[pale kettle]

I’ve tried this stage at least 150 times

It’s not possible for me to pass yet

[magic oriole]

uh.... ss?

[pale kettle]

he is no front line haha

[zinc island]

Have you considered raku+Daimon💀

[magic oriole]

he is up until mid to late game

[harsh urchin]

@pale kettle that was pretty much the only hard stage u just need levels man im at ch 17 now

[pale kettle]

Wtf

he dies 2s into the fight even with Rowan’s healing

[zinc island]

I don’t like my healer 💬

Silas dies in a heartbeat.

[magic oriole]

he gets much much better. for now he needs protection

[pale kettle]

I need 80 diamonds to do a 10x I’ve done around 60 Summons and never got my lost copy for scarlet, if I get it after this 80 diamonds I think I can get this stage

Chances are no but worth the try because his stage isn’t possible yet

[magic oriole]

with daimon u never know

[pale kettle]

I need multiple copies for him

Unless I get a triple daimen lol, good try

ok, no elite. That works too.. sick game

that was a good waste

[harsh urchin]

Silas is insane

[fervent compass]

So um , i hit a wall. What should I do now?

[magic oriole]

where's your carry...

[fervent compass]

Mirael*

I am trying to follow the pins guide but uhhh

[magic oriole]

ok, so stop upgrading to L without being able to go to L+, get rid of ankhira, replace with raku, upgrade lyca to m, start her si, abandon shemi, focus on pulling daimon, and upgrade daimon as fast as you can

sorry for the huge list....

[fervent compass]

No no tyvm, il do that now

Should i reset ardan before feeding him to lyka ? To make lyka M

[magic oriole]

no, resources will be refunded

[fervent compass]

Sounds great!

@magic oriole

[magic oriole]

yeah you might need to switch raku for rosaline in terms of who you're leveling up (for higher level cap) but don't do it until you need to

[magic oriole]

lyca si 20 is pretty good, especially for burst

[fervent compass]

Should i make lyka my carry now?

Like should. I reset mariuel and max out lyka

[magic oriole]

nah she's more of an enabler for other carries

[silk burrow]

not worth doing early

[fervent compass]

Hmm ok so just leave the team like this for now? Keep inc rakus lvl when i can get exp ?

[magic oriole]

i mean look at the heroes lol

[silk burrow]

still not worth

[magic oriole]

plus by the time another worthy hero is at that level, there will be enough resources most likely

[magic oriole]

raku is a superb carry with his SI at 30

so actually i revise my previous statement. If you can get a raku comp together, you don't actually need daimon (for now)

[fervent compass]

Ok hold on lol leme reset everyone to lvl 1

My lvls are all wanky atm now

Especially with my rc units matching my lowest units level. If im doing raku as my carry, il max him to 140 and then do the rest to 120

[magic oriole]

ill be honest, i'm not sure if he can outperform mirael without his si

[fervent compass]

Hmm

[magic oriole]

but he's close to mythic anyway. I recommend stargazing 1 mehira if you don't already have her

[magic oriole]

you can try without resetting

[fervent compass]

I cant stargaze

Im on lvl 12-24

[magic oriole]

oh.... yeah, no daimon is tough

but I think that'll change soon. for raku u just need a lot of cc

[fervent compass]

Hmm what team comp can i do with raku?

[magic oriole]

raku lyca rowan and the rest are flexible

you want raku to not ult tho so it's a bit of a pain sometimes

[fervent compass]

Really? His ult almost 1 shots people

[magic oriole]

yeah but it takes too long. also read his si30 description

[fervent compass]

Oh speaking of, should i take lyka raku and rowan off my RC?

[magic oriole]

eh? i mean lyca should be leveled manually since she's the highest ascension currently, and raku can be leveled too. rowan should be in the crystal

[fervent compass]

@magic oriole

Like this?

[magic oriole]

yeah for now you will have to do stuff like that. I highly recommend brutus tho, and eventually mehira. Also mishka will help you a lot. The full team would be rowan, mishka, (some hero), mehira, raku

brutus is an amazing tank that only needs to be elite to function

[prime obsidian]

Uhmm who is the best Single Target DPS for PVE Contents?

[magic oriole]

raku

[fervent compass]

Ok thanks, il hope for rng to drop me them lol atm i dont think i have any of those or if i do they are only E

[magic oriole]

or saurus

it really depends, what are you looking for

[prime obsidian]

Who should I prio in Wishlist for Early to Mid Game?

I have Saurus and Raku on the Wishlist already.

[magic oriole]

saurus has fallen lately and is only really used for bosses. raku is very much meta. I recommend raku, mishka, lyca (m), astar, pippa for wilder, daimon, oden, silas, grezul, ferael for gb, rowan, scarlet, hendrik, estrilda, rosaline for lb, and kren, tidus, skriath, numisu, skreg (after getting brutus to e) for mauler

[magic oriole]

although check pins in #classic-questions

lyca, nara, brutus and mehira are must-haves that only need e to function

[verbal apex]

I just realized in the HoE event, that I am pretty trash in PvP joy and can't figure out 3 to 5 teams that work and and I don't now when to use them offensively or defensively. All PvP form sites are with dimensional or heros I only have at e+.

Can you guys help me with that?

[sharp dragon]

Any suggetions for a lineup with this heroes?

[magic oriole]

one centered around daimon+rowan, one around eironn+lyca, and one with shemi+rosa is the best I can think of. you'll have to test to see what works best, but go for good cc on daimon, burst damage on eironn, and support/tankiness for shemi

[verbal apex]

Thank you, I will try

[magic oriole]

centaur dude, grez, oden, mirael, daimon maybe. hard to say at this level

[magic oriole]

I can say that daimon is the best carry you can hope for

[sharp dragon]

Should i lvl him? Or crystal is enough?

[verbal apex]

Lvl him to max and keep him on max

[sharp dragon]

Kk

[magic oriole]

you want your highest ascension heroes to be leveled. for now, it's best if you don't level him, but ascend him first and then go ahead. read the pins in the #classic-questions channel

[arctic laurel]

Anyone got any advices? I can't get rid of that Isa, she doesn't die fast enough even when Nara pulls her

[verbal apex]

@magic oriole What do you think about this formations? Which shemira Team would be better?

[magic oriole]

lyca instead of eironn

[arctic laurel]

Eironn is there to group so daimon ults faster, that's all. Tried with lyca too

[magic oriole]

first team would be better, but i think you should consider using lucius instead of mehira

[magic oriole]

did you try with lyca instead of rowan?

[arctic laurel]

I'm honestly pretty adamant of keeping rowan in, but I'll try. I love his stuns and heals too much lol

Nope, my team dies even faster

[magic oriole]

well yeah the question is can daimon get close to ulting

[arctic laurel]

He ults like 3 times

[magic oriole]

oh?

what's his artifact

[arctic laurel]

Let me record it, switched oden for arden as oden was just silvina bait. He's using call, ofc.

[magic oriole]

call is not always better than eye btw

[arctic laurel]

Nevermind, the second I try to record to show that it doesn't work, it works. This game screws with me big time. https://imgur.com/a/l9YKWSW

[pale kettle]

I want that mythic rowan

[arctic laurel]

Soon to be A 👀

[pale kettle]

Go to hell

I am here dying with my one copy

[solid stirrup]

dont A rowan unless its for level cap

hes fine at M bc u just need to get SI30

theres really not much different for rowan M/A

[keen abyss]

Can someone help me pleasee

[high marlin]

With?

Replace lvd with lyca

[arctic laurel]

Help? Isa doesn't die unfortunately

[magic oriole]

Arden for Oden or eironn

[magic oriole]

Nara instead of eironn and swap Brutus for someone else

[woven wadi]

can someone help

[primal mist]

Share the level you’re stuck on pls

[primal mist]

Swap Rowan and Lyca, and Lyca for Thoran

[polar whale]

I placed Nara against Mirael, she often gets her to zero/shield. Daimon in Nara's place, Brutus vs Estrilda if you have him. Then just repeat challenge. I had Rowan center back and Thoran bottom front too.

[woven wadi]

[polar whale]

What's the best team I can scrounge up for Mauler Tower? Brutus/Skreg + Skriath/Numisu/Saveas?

[solid stirrup]

what floor r u on

[polar whale]

I've only unlocked it the other day, floor 1 still since I didn't have the RC spots for Maulers, but I can get them in tomorrow.

[primal mist]

With where you're at and what you have, that's probably as good as you can get for a while. Just try to break 40

[mental flare]

Everyone I’m hitting is like 20 levels up on me in heroes of esperia

Any ideas for teams

[shadow mason]

struggling hard right now, whats wrong on my team? i feel like my tank is a bit useless

[pale kettle]

Who is your carry?

[shadow mason]

eironn raku

[pale kettle]

Umm did u read pins ?

[shadow mason]

i will

[pale kettle]

You should read it and then understand some stuff cuz you are doing some stuff wrong

[manic oriole]

Keep getting stuck on stages with Isabella
Any way to deal with her?

[fiery wing]

show box

[amber beacon]

Nara or Eironn are good options together with a frontline Thoran. If you could add Oden then Isabella will almost never ult.

[shadow mason]

is hogan worth playing as a tank instead of ogi? at 81+?

[fiery wing]

i really recommend one copy of brutus & nara in the early game

[manic oriole]

Beating this chapter will give me Brutus at least 😄
Problem are these Isabella stages

[fiery wing]

yea u dont have nara either which is weird since shes free to get

[shadow mason]

free? quest or?

[fiery wing]

the event with the free brutus skin

[shadow mason]

ah, started playing two days ago so idk yet i didn't see it

[fiery wing]

check events tab then heroes assembly smth like thay

the event thay you'll recieve a reward for earch elite heroes you get

[shadow mason]

oh yeah

[manic oriole]

@fiery wing

[fiery wing]

yea that chest theres a nara

[manic oriole]

Ohh wait
Shit
I chose the scrolls -.-

[fiery wing]

rip

[manic oriole]

Welp

[fiery wing]

then isa will be the death of u :v i suggest get one copy of

nara
cecilia
eirron

[shadow mason]

i kinda read the pinned but i don't think there's much better to do with my team isn't it?

[manic oriole]

You should try scarlet
She helped me push a lot early on
Her dmg is pretty nuts

[shadow mason]

ye i try her often when i'm stuck

[fiery wing]

i think you need more time afk upgrading heroes and getting daimon

[pale kettle]

Help :(

[shadow mason]

is there a specific faction to target with scrolls in earlygame?

[amber beacon]

It's in the pinned guides. Graveborn

[shadow mason]

specially with all my wilders, should i keep on it?

[amber beacon]

Doesn't Lorsan just die to silvi? Change to Ferael or some other agility-based support. Or put Daimon at the back and put another tank in front.

[pale kettle]

Yeee that was just a random thing I was trying

[amber beacon]

Focus on Graveborn.

[amber beacon]

Lyca/support

Brutus
Rowan
Hogan
Daimon

You can also swap Daimon and your other support to see if Dainon can kill that Estrilda

[fiery wing]

graveborn

[pale kettle]

Didn't work :(

[amber beacon]

Try other supports or keep trying. Rng is a big factor in some stages.

Try Ferael in place of Lyca then swap with Daimon

[slim portal]

You’re in 22 with E+ Rowan
I was running M rowan +30 here with similar comp as yours…

Probably swap Ferael location with daimon, and drop rowan for Lyca

[amber beacon]

I swapped Ferael and Daimon and it worked. Took a lot of retries though. Thanks for the suggestion!

[slim portal]

Also it fine to make 4 more mythic to uncap the RC, for example Ferael

[amber beacon]

I will soon, just stocking up on fodders. Thanks!

[slim portal]

Basically when level gaps is huge, make sure daimon hide behind Brutus and supports buy time for him

[near raft]

combined with Lyca to speed up his attack rate on the begenning + the energy bonus

[amber beacon]

Thanks for the advice guys. I'll try to do that. 🙂

[near raft]

happy to help

[native wave]

Heyy just afk and do the mythic trick to get better chances

[pale kettle]

The what trick?

[native wave]

Mythic gear trick... ?

[near raft]

what is that ?

[pale kettle]

What....?I think it is very old maybe they patched it

[native wave]

Guaranteed mythic if you do it right, I got mine today after 2 days

https://afk.guide/mythic-gear-trick/

It's factionless, but can be helpful

[pale kettle]

:o

Thanks a lot

[thorny hearth]

Any suggestion for me to beat this hell?

[native wave]

Also this for easier tracking: https://afk-loot.netlify.app/

[pale kettle]

Dang u are stacked lmao

Thanks a lot :D

[native wave]

When the bar is green like the one below you can clear the stage and collect mythic :

Mine is in 2 days 7h :c

[pale kettle]

._.

[native wave]

ch. 17 pretty hard

I got weapon and boots faction for Daimon max upgrade, yet dying...

[pale kettle]

What.....

[high mica]

Is this worth it I wonder

[thorny hearth]

Doesn’t seem worth it at all, swap shemira/lucius instead

[high mica]

Swap positions or swap tiers

[thorny hearth]

I’m talking about the swap scroll, shemira and lucius fall off in late game but daimon stays as a strong character

[high mica]

Lucius is getting it I worked too hard to get shemira that far, thanks for the tip

[fiery wing]

if you do that be ready to quit the game because of regret

not capping

[finite hare]

Hey! Can someone give me some advices for the 3 best pvp team I can do with my box ? (:

[molten verge]

Hi, so I've been playing Grezhul from the beginning and I was happy to know that it would be really good later on. But when is "later" ? Can you tell me what is wrong with my Grezhul ? It always has been useless from chapter 1 to 31...