lineup-help

[pale kettle]

And switch golus for lyca I suppose @pale kettle

ah ok

@silk ibex pls :(

failed 😭 imma retry spam

[silk ibex]

Grezhul doesn't work too well later on until you get him some Furniture. Switch Grez with Lyca and Talene with Oden. See if you can get two enemies to clump in front of Golus so Ogi can't stun you

Try using Oden to clump Kaz and Estrilda together in front of Alna. Again, keep Daimon away from Grezhul. Arden's CC can help. Rowan's worth a shot

Try all those options

[pale kettle]

got them to clump but then they die and i fail :(

OH I JUST KILLED IT THANKS

[zinc island]

So tasi,Lyca,oden,Brutus,daimon?

[prisma needle]

Suggestions? I have two slots left on RC, but can't raise level past 120.

[pale kettle]

Alna doesent work infront of estrilda 💀

[prisma needle]

is Rowan not a bit weak before 121 cos of limited healing? or is that not really an issue?

[royal stag]

Nara and Rowan

[pale kettle]

Any suggestions? I am close to winning but I think I am missing something

[twilit turtle]

Who will help with the cursed world and build teams to it?

[pale kettle]

Its always ira and lyca left in the end the ira ult is pain

Lyca was worse then ferael lol

I will try replaying a few more times

Everyone there either has a dimensional or some overpowered level hero not much help

[prisma needle]

Thank you so much for this! I haven't put Rowan on yet, but Nara is just so perfect for all the Nemoras in ch.9! Thank you a million times ❤️

[cold cloud]

I need help to choose characters for chapter 11

[pale kettle]

There are no comps which will help in clearing one whole chapter it is stage dependent

[tight juniper]

Are there any comps available for 37-40-3 that doesn't involve Khazard? Because I either have to use Khazard or use Mortas Izold, which I don't have. I can't really merc since I need to merc Alna.

[silk ibex]

Stop Ascending Heroes to Legendary, should probably read the pinned beginner's guide in #classic-questions

[zinc island]

Right-

But I need to read it too😃🎖

[pale kettle]

Can someone help it is just lyca and ira left in the end I am only five stages behind from completing this chapter

[kind nest]

Get Daimon to +20, and he'll pop off.

[pale kettle]

.....he is plus eight rn

Not even ten

[ebon hazel]

Drop Alna, put Lyca front and Arden in

[pale kettle]

Okay

Grez murders Arden...he couldn't get the roots on anyone

[ebon hazel]

Lyca and Thoran front?

Then try Oden instead of Arden

Early game like this is kinda hard to help with
More or less have to know what you're building into as a team and how it works

[pale kettle]

Okay :)

[ebon hazel]

So besides just saying who's good it's not really too big of help

[pale kettle]

Hmm okay

[arctic laurel]

@safe hazel thats the only thing that worked. Mirael needs to be there so she can kill Estrilda as she does a crapload of damage and stalls for enemy mirael to gain energy, but lots of things need to happen. Mirael needs to crit, Arden needs to root Estrilda ( which won't happen without the haste from Lyca ), daimon needs to ult to get estrilda to half hp. It's pretty crappy, Ive tried numerous lineups, nothing works

[safe hazel]

Try daimon mirael Arden backline and thoran and golus frontline

[arctic laurel]

Tried already, let me show you

And rowan is a key component as she needs to heal, else it's all useless

[royal stag]

Rowan, Mirael, Daimon, Nara, Arden

[pale kettle]

Can someone help me too I am only four stages from chapter fifteen

[safe hazel]

Swap thoran and golus maybe

Or try out rowan frontline if his dodge is good

[pale kettle]

Help :(

[safe hazel]

Swap rowan and golus

That should work with enough retries from what I can see

[arctic laurel]

Arden doesn't root. He gets kicked out of the animation. So he's just there to be there

[safe hazel]

He does root wdym

[arctic laurel]

Once in like 6-7 tries honestly

[pale kettle]

The sauveus and vurk melt my daimon in the end any counters to that?

[gloomy frigate]

Do you have Brutus? He is good at eating Saveas attacks with his immunity

[pale kettle]

I will once I complete this chapter

[median jolt]

Should i consume fawkes to make belinda legendary+ and put saveas instead of him or fawkes dispell is too op? My main carry is belinda with rosaline connected, main tank is lucius and second front is some celestial for 5 light bonus usually flora cuz shes flying above and doing some percentage dmg and healing, any other tips what heroes to push who should i chase after the most?

[gloomy frigate]

Fawkes has his uses on tower.. so I wouldn't feed him.. especially since lightbearer has the most fodders

Are you focusing on LBs on this account?

[gloomy frigate]

Tried Nara hooking either Saveas or Vurk? Does it help in terms of surviving?

[pale kettle]

Cleared it a few mins back thanks though

[gloomy frigate]

Does Alna survive for a bit or dies fast? Lyca instead of Lorsan makes it any better?

[median jolt]

Yes i am

[pale kettle]

@gloomy frigate lorsan clutched that one I am lost here somewhat

The ira melts either way

[safe hazel]

maybe fera instead of nara

and i'd put lyca frontline since she's mainly a sacrifice unless she's doing good damage for you somehow

[pale kettle]

Ayo Legend it worked Lyca sacrifice worked lol

Thanks a lot maybe I get Brutus today

[safe hazel]

yh you probably can especially if you get daimon +20

idk how close you are to that though

[pale kettle]

He is plus eight but okay

[safe hazel]

+10 helps a lot as well

[pale kettle]

I will get plus ten if I get those faction scrolls today

Just need a few more of those white emblems

Any clues here I just need two more wins...the last one surviving is vurk and sauveus and brutus

[safe hazel]

swap thoran and lyca
how does alna do at E ascencion?

[pale kettle]

Able to buy seven seconds and sometime able to use her ult

[safe hazel]

or try rowan instead of lorsan

[pale kettle]

Swapping lyca and thoran ain't working best

[safe hazel]

does lyca not have enough dodge to survive for even a while?

[pale kettle]

She instant melts

[faint current]

Brutus Roar

[safe hazel]

oh yh I forgot about that

[safe hazel]

how about lorsan instead of rowan?

[faint current]

Who does Lorsan link?

[pale kettle]

I think rowan is working a bit better then lorsan

[pale kettle]

Vurk and brutus

[safe hazel]

wait im at 14-13 on my alt rn lemme push a bit

i've never used lorsan so idk what his impact is on your team

[faint current]

Linking Brutus is probably not the best idea imo, dealing extra damage to him early just enrages him

[pale kettle]

Stupid lorsan

[faint current]

Brutus will put up his invincibility shield and have massive attack rating and haste

I mean you can swap Daimon and lorsan to make lorsan link Khasos Saveas

[pale kettle]

Hollyyyy I wonnn but I had to enhance daimons gear a bit but I guess that is fine

Ferael doing work

[faint current]

Arden is better until lvl 161+ at least

Than ferael

[pale kettle]

The old man dies too quick for some reason his roots take time I guess

[faint current]

Fera fear takes time too

They both attack then use the ability

[pale kettle]

This is the last one please any suggestions

My brain is almost dead

[faint current]

Use Arden instead of Fera

Make sure to give Arden gear ofc

[faint current]

Alna Daimon Arden Rowan Lyca?

[silk ibex]

Always do SI 10 levels by 10, you're full sending your Emblems on Daimon rn so it's okay but for future reference

[pale kettle]

Okay :)

[pale kettle]

Alna and lyca front?

[faint current]

For the first carry it’s the right choice

[faint current]

12345 so alna Daimon front. At 8 deficit Daimon might survive ok

Give it a try and see if it’s reasonable or not

[pale kettle]

Umm my entire team was gone in 8 seconds

Also alna infront os estrilda isn't the perfect choice I guess

[faint current]

Then maybe not

Oh Estrilda kicks alna before invinc?

If that’s the case then yeah don’t use alna there

[pale kettle]

Yeahh

[faint current]

Try different things. Bottom half deals lower damage than the top btw you can use that to your advantage

Estrilda Belinda is scarier than Hogan angelo so depending on who Mirael targets you might get away with a weak frontline on the bottom

[pale kettle]

Okay will try something

[lilac marsh]

Does anyone know who I should put in resonating crystal? I’ve been stuck in this stage for 1.5 day haha

[faint current]

Can make Mirael and Golus legendary

[median jolt]

Any ideas of what should i chase after here? My usual lineup is Lucius Flora front Belinda Fawkes Rosaline back, should i go for second tank, swap super weak fawkes for someone else?

[royal stag]

@silk ibex take a look at that beautiful box

[arctic laurel]

Wouldnt it be wiser to keep that second E+ mirael for a L+ upgrade once he gets another E+ LB fodder?

[silk ibex]

[faint current]

Let’s say he bring Mirael to L

Then he gets 18 LB fodder after that yeah?

He needs 6 R of those to be miraels

Then he can make 2 R+ Mirael and 4 R+ other LB

With that he can make 2 E Mirael or 1 E+ Mirael

[arctic laurel]

I might be judging it from my luck and I might be biased because of that honestly

[faint current]

Not too much luck involved. Mostly player paying attention

If you use smart ascend at that stage of the game you’re shooting yourself in the foot

[arctic laurel]

It's a gacha game after all, luck is indeed involved

[faint current]

Not much actually

[silk ibex]

If you use smart ascend you're shooting yourself in the foot*

Fixed

[faint current]

New players only learn about the most optimal path and despair when a ever-so-slightly-less-perfect path is available instead but they don’t know how to take advantage of it

[torpid lance]

37-40 r3 is usually without Raku because he is put in r5, but I managed to clear r5 without Raku. Would it be better to put Raku in r3 if possible or should I just leave the charm comp as shown in the picture?

[arctic laurel]

How much would L+ shemira screw me here? I've hit a wall and im desperate

And a L+ shemira seems tempting

[faint current]

You eventually don’t need fodder ASAP

[silk ibex]

So there comes a point where you're not bending over backwards for fodder to Ascend barely useful or useless Heroes I'm guessing, do the Exp/Dust requirements for RC Cramming outgrow the rate of which your A Tiers increase level cap?

[pale kettle]

Not neccesarily there are times where u can be smart with smart ascend

[faint current]

I’m not sure, I mostly did not RC cram and I’m 46 away from level cap

474/520

[silk ibex]

Eh, guess I'll cross that bridge when I come to it. The journey to my meme team will be a long and arduous journey

[faint current]

JD is a good person to ask about cramming btw

He’s in #taverns-chat-room a decent amount

[faint current]

L+ Shemira gives you no benefit that I can see

[arctic laurel]

AoE dmg ult and being a GB dealing bonus damage to their LB team?

Also she might be silencing the right target at the right time, I dunno

[faint current]

Bonus damage multiplier is almost always to be ignored

Real synergy has an infinitely larger impact on success than the faction damage bonus

You are at the point where you can start to think of who your mythic 161+ carry will be, but I’d recommend oden 100x before I recommend Shemira

[silk ibex]

There's a reason why she's one of the worst GBs in the game.

[arctic laurel]

Daimon will be the carry, but I'm at a crossroad where if I don't get another Daimon I will not be able to get him to Mythic. Once I manage to do that, Mirael becomes food for Rowan and I can start to snowball.

But the game did not want to give me any other Daimons past the first two I got when I started. The 3rd is from Ch12 free chest.

[faint current]

You said it yourself. If you don’t get another Daimon you can’t go with your plan of using him as mythic carry

I had skreg on wishlist for over 12 months and didn’t get a copy. Maybe you’ll get that last Daimon soon but maybe it’ll take a year and you should have a plan B

[arctic laurel]

I do not know who else would work in that position honestly

[faint current]

Could ask in #classic-questions about if it’s time to make your first mythic hero and who if you have done that recently

[arctic laurel]

I could also get Mythic rowan straight away, but I might shoot myself in the leg as well as at the moment Mirael is my carry and I need to feed mirael to Rowan to ascend her.

[faint current]

Exactly

[arctic laurel]

Quick check in #classic-questions if possible

[arctic laurel]

Close enough to pass with retry spam? If arden keeps rooting mirael it's gucci

[silent moss]

do you have a nara?

[arctic laurel]

I did try the nara pulling enemy mira thing, not working

[silent moss]

did you try both nara and arden same comp so the roots can lock down the healers?

[arctic laurel]

Yup. Team melts.

[silent moss]

3 piece faction graveborn?

[silk ibex]

Remind me, do you have an Oden?

[arctic laurel]

I have 6 even, I can get him to mythic.

[silk ibex]

Hold off on that, but Oden might help for these stages, I notice your Daimon's only hitting one target and Ulting very slowly

[arctic laurel]

Oden dies in the first couple of seconds and he's not doing much sadly, thats why I wanted to get him to mythic, praying that he'd survive longer to do stuff

[mental sun]

Is morrow or scarlet better for aoe and cc

[silk ibex]

He only needs to use his teleport

[orchid frigate]

New player here. Might have fked up some pulls because I didn't know about the 30x pulls per type. Currently sitting at 12-8 using Talene, Thoran, Lyca, Rowan and Daimon. Should I use a different lineup or reset someone? Need some assistance.

[grand perch]

Hello @orchid frigate,

Please check out the pinned messages/guides in the #classic-questions and #lineup-help channels.

[arctic laurel]

If he ults mirael this might work

[silk ibex]

Spam a few times

[silk ibex]

You've got your fodders right, but I recommend resetting Talene, try to get Mirael to Lv160 and put the rest of the levels in another LB fodder like Hogan.

Also you need to start using Brutus in your comps. He scales ridiculously into later chapters. I'm still using him at E+

Also, you need more CC. Eironn may or may not help with that but yes you desperately need CC

[arctic laurel]

Hogan knocking daimon down is annoying lmao

[silk ibex]

I'd use Lyca Brutus front with Daimon Rowan (middle back) and a CC or utility Hero.

You could have used Arden for that temporary CC role but since you picked Ira you don't have that option

[arctic laurel]

This feels doable but it's so close it's tilting

[silk ibex]

Are you putting your best gear on them?

[arctic laurel]

Yep. Took everything off and equipped them in the order of power / carry potential anyway, I still have unequipped heroes but not used now

[orchid frigate]

Talene kinda carried me over after I got her so was skeptical about resetting her. Im still thinking about what to do about the CC.

[silk ibex]

Mirael 160 would do a little better since Talene's close to getting capped right now. You can't Ascend or level her any higher as of now

[pale kettle]

i see the problem

you dont have ainz

[arctic laurel]

Should I just mythic rowan already? Got 180 silver and 65 gold, should be able to get his SI to at least 20

[pale kettle]

problem fixed, back to general chat.

[silk ibex]

@pale kettle I've concluded that Bone Daddy isn't my favorite Overlord character so I plan to become a Khazard simp once I get my Heroes together lol

[arctic laurel]

Is mirael such a key component right now in the end?

[pale kettle]

sebas would want you to be loyal to ainz

[silk ibex]

Do you have any other carry is the problem

[silk ibex]

NPCs are ultimately loyal to their creators aside from Albedo. Sebas is loyal to Touch-Me, who happens to be higher on the list of my favorite Overlord characters.

[arctic laurel]

Rowan's SI gives energy too iirc, so daimon should be able to do more ults? = more damage? = carry? I don't even know anymore

[silk ibex]

@arctic laurel How far/close are you to M Daimon again

[arctic laurel]

1 daimon

[pale kettle]

ainz was their guild master so all npcs were loyal to him they just looked up to their creators

[arctic laurel]

Which doesn't wanna drop

And I have 17 more fodder chests I can use on LB if needed to force another L+, but I don't see if I have any chance

[pale kettle]

@silk ibexbut yeah ainz wasnt a strong player or anything just a roleplayer, touch-me was among the top 10 strongest pvp players ever

[silk ibex]

Anyways #classic-chat or #545919777907015684 lol

[silk ibex]

Are you close to hitting RC160

[arctic laurel]

Resource locked. 10k dust along with some exp and coins. Need 2 more heroes to 160

[silk ibex]

Cause I was gonna propose an idea of using Oden as your carry in the meantime, but I'll need some second opinions on this

@faint current Were you part of the earlier discussion when it came to doing something about Kree's bad RNG with Daimon?

I think @kind nest was helping you earlier?

Idk I might be tagging too many people, trying to remember who helped you

[arctic laurel]

I think it was him and dae, I'm also JD's apprentice

Him as in nilas

[kind nest]

what

[silk ibex]

I wasn't there for the conversation about what to do with Kree's bad RNG with Daimon. He wants to Ascend Rowan to M I think? Idk @arctic laurel you know the situation better than I do, just looking for a second opinion since I wasn't too unlucky with M Daimon

[kind nest]

Rowan to M is ifne

[arctic laurel]

Not sure if that's the best idea at the moment, was using Mirael carry for the moment as I need 1 more daimon to get him to mythic. Though I was thinking rowan getting his SI would help daimon deal the DPS as his sig gives energy too, thus enabling daimon to ult more

Also @silk ibex was suggesting I try out Oden carry in the meantime, I can get him to mythic too and I have 6 copies

Might need to use Silvana as his L+ fodder but there's that

[silk ibex]

Yeah, it's mainly cause he's using Mirael carry with no other carry once he feeds Mirael to Rowan. Only an E Daimon. So maybe a fix for this is to get Oden to Mythic as well since his Oden's at 6 copies?

[arctic laurel]

L Daimon. I need 1 more for L+

So I can ascend to mythic

[silk ibex]

Ah, and you've already popped the chest for him at Ch12 I assume

[arctic laurel]

Yep, game only gave me 2 daimons since the start, 3rd was ch12 chest

[silk ibex]

I think it might have been better to save it for A Oden if you get a 7th copy, but no use dwelling on it now

[mental sun]

Is morrow or scarlet better this is my lineup atm

[zinc island]

I’ve been spam trying this team sm

K

Here @pale kettle (sorry for ping)😭

I know nothing about this game like that💀

[autumn orbit]

Any ideas?

[zinc island]

Flop, flip, flop, flopitty plop,😍

Flopped😍

It’s ALR though LMAO.

Ima keep trying out other hero’s and I’ll get back to you.

💀-

[solid stirrup]

I would do ur original but have oden instead of lyca and probably put oden middle with daimon top

[zinc island]

Then who would be replaced with Lyca.

[solid stirrup]

oden for lyca

[zinc island]

I alr had oden-

[solid stirrup]

no ur og one not his suggestion

golus brutus daimon oden silas

[zinc island]

Ohhhh

[autumn orbit]

You guys got any ideas?

[solid stirrup]

Is ur problem isabella ulting

[autumn orbit]

Yep

[solid stirrup]

no nara?

[autumn orbit]

Nope same thing was said last Isabelle stage I Needed help with lol

[solid stirrup]

what u could try is put kelthur on RC and have him opposite isabella

that’s what I did when I didn’t have nara but I also had a daimon soooo

[zinc island]

At this point it’s just my hero’s being ass.

[solid stirrup]

have brutus tanking the side that deals more damage so probably bottom for the saveas

[autumn orbit]

Yeah I got pretty unlucky with no daimon but five copies of Silas, thoran and Scarlett

[solid stirrup]

what’s ur formation

[zinc island]

Yeah it’s just my hero’s that are trash💀💀

[solid stirrup]

nah ur like 12 lvl deficit

[zinc island]

I mean I can’t rlly lvl anyone, bc all my best hero’s are only elite+

And I’m not making the L ascend mistake😍

[solid stirrup]

yea but 12 lvls is rlly not too bad, it’s just u need to find right combination

Golus and daimon swap

[zinc island]

K

[autumn orbit]

It isn’t working with kelthur either

Mirael carry is so hard without even a rosaline

[solid stirrup]

yeahhh

[zinc island]

Nope

[zinc island]

That ended in 5 seconds💀

[solid stirrup]

idk the stats look not too bad w damage and damage taken but

ig just make sure best gear is on ur stuff?

[zinc island]

Lemme check that💀

Pretty sure it’s up to date including the ONE artifact I own.

[autumn orbit]

How do u only have one artifact if ur on 10-21? You should have three iirc

[zinc island]

The stages was hard💀

[solid stirrup]

for PoT I just Merced someone’s lucretia and suicided my team to pass

[autumn orbit]

You can easily get all the peaks of time if you just use nerds

[dim glacier]

my apprentice’s heroes… what comp should i recommend him to use for campaign?

[autumn orbit]

*mercs

[solid stirrup]

run away

[zinc island]

@autumn orbit

[autumn orbit]

Do you know how mercenaries work? Just get a really op daimon or ainz or whatever and it’s free

[naive kayak]

Struggling with this one any suggestions?

[autumn orbit]

@solid stirrup just got Nara so hopefully I can pass Isabelle levels now

[silk burrow]

at that point whatever he has💀 tell him to focus daimon and rowan and stop making so many L heroes

[pale kettle]

hi

should diamon be in back or front

early game

obviously back for burst heroes on enemy lineup in front

[prisma needle]

Framton any use for early-game campaign? Was thinking his stat difference boost could be handy?

[mossy galleon]

Can someone help please

[pale kettle]

thats annoying lmao

[swift lantern]

Just win lol

[summer cedar]

try swapping raku for silvi. ur silvi shud delay isa for a while

[summer cedar]

try tasi instead of golus. I'm curious if she'll banish sav

[summer cedar]

Brutus Talene Daimon Rowan Arden might work

[amber beacon]

Looking for suggestions. I'm constantly killing Shemira but even with 5th slot Nara and 2nd slot Thoran, I can't kill Isabella.

I also have an RC slot open. Tia!

[zinc island]

Passed 😍

Tysm

[summer cedar]

👍

[raven egret]

Can’t seem to beat it I figured fereal was the key but it isn’t working. Any ideas?

[pale kettle]

help please

[lethal wolf]

Hey so quit for ages but what teams should I be building for stuck at 11-12

[rustic flax]

some help please

[autumn orbit]

Can’t figure this one out any help is appreciated

[summer cedar]

doesn't that silvi destroy ur oden b4 he does anything?

[rapid rampart]

try nara to pull saveas or silvi to kill saveas

[lethal wolf]

Any tips for me and what should be wish-list be set to

[zinc island]

Swap silvina with Silas?

[raven egret]

Any help here?

[mental glen]

Try rowan instead of ferael and remove PoP for ferael if PoP isn't working

[raven egret]

I’ll give it a shot. Thanks

[split prairie]

@mental glen if fereal isn't working it's because the comp isnt synergizing and he's not stunlocking

[mental glen]

Yeah pop should work

[raven egret]

This is what I’m thinking. I Just need better comps. But I gotta make what I got work

[faint current]

Have you tried heroes other than Raku? He is missing some very important abilities at that level. Maybe Arden?

[autumn orbit]

Just passed that stage actually and yeah I tried a bunch but I just put him in the screenshot

[warm yew]

Daimon

Brutus
Rowan
Lyca
Ferael/Pop

[split prairie]

@raven egret you need to watch the fights and manipulate them for pop so he can stunlock the enemies, no reason not to be using eironn/lyca/nara to do it

[autumn orbit]

Now I’m stuck on the next boss tho lmao pls help

[raven egret]

Just hard to use Eirron and PoP lol they’re linked

[faint current]

Nara should only be used to interrupt a single ability that’s worth interrupting, since she will die almost instantly after this. Saveas probably won’t care about getting pulled by Nara. If Khasos is killing more than one of your heroes with his axe throw you could try and see if Nara’s pull interrupts it and you only lose one hero (her) instead

Arden is also a strong support 81-140 and extremely strong support 141-160

[pale kettle]

^^

[raven egret]

Got the terror in on this one and it worked

[warm yew]

yeah that was my go to comp for most of early game along with ainz comp

it was like magic

[raven egret]

Daimon man. Daimon…

[pale kettle]

Help please, if I kill the Isabella, the spearthrower guy kills me but if I kill the spearthrower, I die to the Isabella and if I use Silvina she targets the other mage instead

[rapid rampart]

My Daimon is perma cc, what can I do?

[autumn orbit]

Still isn’t working ran the fight another 30 times or so with Nara pulling the axe thrower and almost won but couldn’t get it

[faint current]

Is she stopping the axe throw?

[autumn orbit]

I’m not rlly sure doesn’t he constantly throw axes

[ember bane]

Can anyone suggest low line up for Cursed realm

[pale kettle]

This is the last battle pls :(

[faint current]

I mean it might not be enough regardless but it’s something to try.

Most heroes rotate their abilities but if it’s deadly enough you interrupting the first one can buy precious time. Dying 14 seconds into the fight is better than dying 3 seconds into the fight.

[autumn orbit]

Yeah she survives for a little while actually and I did try that line up like 30 times as I said and it hasn’t worked unfortunately

[faint current]

Sorry it didn’t work out. But now hopefully you know an extra strategy for the future.

[pale kettle]

^^

[pale kettle]

Do u have a durable tank?

[pale kettle]

Grezhul and Gozul(i think thats his name, the spearholding dude) are my only tanks

they die like 3s into the fight

[autumn orbit]

Yeah ur right this is a good strat that I use against Isabelle as well so thank you

[pale kettle]

Swtich grezhul and golus and daimon and talene

[pale kettle]

Sorry who do I switch with who?

Swap their postions lol

oh ok ty

My bad

[lethal wolf]

Anyone teams I can make now with what I've got surely

[pale kettle]

No 'one' team will work in every stage tbh

Also have u read pins?

[pale kettle]

sad still fails :( maybe level difference?

I think it is achievable

Does talene melt too quick in the frontline?

yep, they all do if they go onto front line... 3s tops instadie if unlucky

nara just instadies if she tries to hook spearman

Do u have thoran?

sadly no

[frozen harness]

Thoran,lyca,daimon,nemora, last pos is flex

[pale kettle]

if i merc one then i have to wait 7days for another use which is pretty annoying imo, and then theres also the new dimensional hero coming up so i dont want to garrison ainz either

Hmm yeah

[frozen harness]

Pls read beginner guide in #classic-questions stop upgrading to leg tier if u dont have enough copies, u wasted a lot of fodder:(

[frozen harness]

Drop nara for lyca. Talene in grez pos and oden for grez

[pale kettle]

just tried around 5times, still death all 5 times... forgot to mention talene is the dps(rising flame) one not the healer one

[frozen harness]

Post ur box and yes talene early game goes nuts

[pale kettle]

Could someone help I am almost winning but lose towards the end

if ur almost winning then maybe put like duras grace and lvl up the equipment on the last standing char? idk, if theres someone more experienced then they could help

[frozen harness]

Lorsan for rowan or lyca I guess, you have mythic gear?

[pale kettle]

Not a single piece

[pale kettle]

stars do u need more than this or

[frozen harness]

Yea thx mhm looks rough, have to hope for talene ult. Try with all heroes u have lvled up

U used all codes? U pushed kt as far u can?

[pale kettle]

yep will try with all heros :(

used all codes, not sure what u mean by kt?

[frozen harness]

Kingstower

[pale kettle]

yep stuck on floor 121, cant go any further

id also do the rest in pieces voyage except all my chars die including the daimon i merc'ed, id prefer not to merc an ainz bc yk new dimensional hero coming out and im only on ch10 so yeah

Did forest of mania?

yeah i did all the voyages except rip

Hmm okay

oh wait sorry not RIP, ancient ruins

[frozen harness]

lvl120 is like only chance now

[pale kettle]

oh so i have to pray for a golus to drop :(

otherwise i cant make my other chars 120+

[frozen harness]

Could reset him for skreg

[stable ember]

It is a slow progression game, now is the time to get accustomed to it if nothing else lol. Do you have high level players in your friends list or guild? You can always play with different mercs

[chrome lynx]

Just drew 4 epics, any of use?

All new to the team too

[stable ember]

Daimon is best carry thru much of the early mid and early late game

[chrome lynx]

Thanks, I'm at 6-31, so he is probably gonna do well

Or she

[stable ember]

Not really. That early you want to run fodder heroes+wukong. Daimon isn't good until you unlock his skills

Read the beginner guides pinned in #classic-questions

[pale kettle]

yep i could but like i dont want to get used to it, and i have to wait a week to use the merc again lol... ill probs use a merc tonight for progression

[pale kettle]

would it be worth it?

[icy parcel]

remove Respen from your Wishlist, check the pinned Wishlist in #classic-questions

[autumn orbit]

This is the what I’ve gotten the most succes with so far and I’m getting close but not quite winning

Actually now I have E+ Nara sorry outdated box lol but the rest is the same

[pale kettle]

What does raku do?

[autumn orbit]

Wdym?

[faint current]

You can go to Heroes -> Portraits to read all of the abilities of every hero you can use in the game

[pale kettle]

Okay

[pale kettle]

Swap golus and thoran and maybe use silvina instead of silas

[peak scaffold]

Opinions on current pvp setup?

[stable ember]

Weekly reset is tomorrow, so you have to wait less than 24 hours for merc. Might as well

[naive kayak]

Need some help any suggestions?

[rugged hull]

Which do I use for campaign im at 9-33 btw

[idle oriole]

Show the stage

Also read the pins in #classic-questions you’ve leveled up way too many heroes

[rugged hull]

@idle oriole idk I thought that is what I'm supposed to do

[mental glen]

Switch lucius and brutus

[naive kayak]

already tried that multiple times

[mental glen]

Switch wukong and titus

[mental glen]

Hmm remove aw talene or lucius for more cc. Do you have ferael? Otherwise put in arden

[rugged hull]

@mental glen it was a fail also that is my hero pool

[mental glen]

Swap titus for brutus. Also you can reset some hero levels below 100 to level others to 120 or 140

[rugged hull]

Like who for example

[mental glen]

Respen, and safiya

[tepid current]

Is there a non thoran clear for this? I think after the nerfs the deficit is too low

[slim portal]

Didn’t it nerfed twice? It was like 600+ > 568~

[tepid current]

yes its been nerfed a lot recently so the deficit is too low for me to use thoran

[mental glen]

Ainz+kren? What are you using for r5?

[tepid current]

ainz

i'm using charm, luc, alna gb, ainz in the other 4, the only carry i have available to use would be kren so i wud need to find some kind of kren clear

[slim portal]

How about raku?

[tepid current]

used in charm

wait i cleared 5 with kren so i can use ainz for this

[slim portal]

I couldn’t find any kren clear yet, because it was 568~ yesterday. It should be doable now with kren

[fluid bison]

Need help for this Thoran cheese

[south pilot]

cant win any ideas?

[pale kettle]

Help :(

[near raft]

Put Kren bl

[midnight hull]

Who should I be ascending?

[near raft]

Rowan Middle and Daimon fl

[near raft]

Focus Daimon he's really strong, then go for Ferael, Lyca, Rowan, and Stargazing for Luc

You're gonna get the other one's by pulling on the noble tavern

[midnight hull]

tyty!

[near raft]

Np ^^ if any other question am still here

[silk ibex]

Man this channel can sometimes be burning to the ground in my absence lol

Sorry for being burnt out these past few days, whoever I'm helping

[near raft]

Yeah but it's making the channel live at least

[polar whale]

What's the best lineup I could use for this?

[pale kettle]

Thanks that worked

[slim portal]

Borrow a fat 309 talene from your friend, and slot all your dps in. Unless you have twins/mortas

[polar whale]

Ascended Talene? None of my friends seem to have a good one.

[near raft]

Np dude :)

[near raft]

My friend's has a 1 star you good with dat ?

[slim portal]

It wasn't me but @polar whale needs it, thanks tho !

[pale kettle]

Is this a level difference problem

[near raft]

Tell him to dm me when he need her

[near raft]

Np just need your daimon to survive

[near raft]

Put Alna Fl

[pale kettle]

Not working :(

[supple mantle]

Why are those only lv603?

[ionic warren]

best early game team?

[pale kettle]

:( any suggestions

[pale kettle]

i think maybe replace nara with rowan would be good

[safe hazel]

Brutus instead of alna lyca instead of thoran?

[pale kettle]

Did not work unfortunately

[pale kettle]

I think it is just level problems they melt too soon

[woven mason]

Any ideas for team improvement?

[safe hazel]

Early game lyca frontline is best

Also daimon at E works

[idle oriole]

Oden
Rowan
Rosa
Thoran
Daimon

[pale kettle]

Is Rosaline even usable..

[idle oriole]

U can switch her out with someone else u think will help more but she helps get an extra ult on daimon sometimes

In any case if u get ur RC to 141 it’ll be easier

[safe hazel]

Yh not used with daimon carry though

[weary ether]

could someone please help me, i keep dying

nvm did it

[cursive gyro]

When I started the game I didn't really care how good the hero was, now I can't get past 29-16, any ideas? (Sorry for the bad English)

[woven mason]

Well you can try garrisoning Ainz and albedo, swap Belinda for daymon, get Lucretia to 30 SI and pray that that will be enough

And hcp for for rowan

[low depot]

Im stuck at 15-40 any advice?

[safe hazel]

depends on your furn

and how much red emblems and other resources you to invest with

[mental sun]

I'm thinking of replacing someone for silas bc I desperately need a healer

[tame night]

Hello everyone! I’m new player and don’t know who I need to level up and put in team. Pls help i stuck in 12.4

[pale kettle]

Read pins and stop ascending heroes to L

And wtf is that talene luck

[silk ibex]

It's just 2 tho, you can get one from Event and prolly high chance to pull her when she first came out

[tame night]

They dropped me in 20 pulls

[pale kettle]

Yeah I didn't have to hear that

[slim portal]

basically you're hitting hard stuck now...bad investment will slow down your progress by a ton
Read beginner guide here: <#classic-questions message>

[tame night]

Thanks

[sacred pivot]

Been stuck here for a week

[slim portal]

it could be much easier if you have a nara, isabella is a pain, try
Frontline: Daimon Brutus
Backline: Oden Rowan Ferael

make sure daimon has the horn artifact

[sacred pivot]

Got that win aiiieeee lemme check if I have that attached

[safe hazel]

swap brutus and lyca

[sacred pivot]

Now I’m stuck here another Isabella

[pale kettle]

Is that a different account?

Help pls (Brutus has only four seconds immunity which is why not using him)

[silk ibex]

Rowan instead of Lorsan maybe, you're also putting Daimon in front of a facefull of CC

[woven mason]

Help?

[proper orchid]

Just qualified for the cursed realm for the first time and I need advice on some formations

[polar whale]

It's been relatively smooth until this stage where my team just gets rushed down. This Estrilda unit is NOT fair. Any advice?

[safe hazel]

swap arden and daimon

don't ascend A tier heroes past e+ except for rowan and daimon if you can take them straight to M

[reef ore]

Is this one just rng? I've tried every combination thats close to my RC on afkhelper anyone have a tip or is jusr retrys haven't got close

[polar whale]

Arden dies within the first 2 seconds.

[safe hazel]

then replace him with ferael or another cc

[polar whale]

Also I thought I'm supposed to keep Daimon away from Estrilda.

[safe hazel]

isabella bigger deal though

[polar whale]

This stage is just randomly so much harder than any prior ones. My whole team explodes in an instant.

[reef ore]

jk i just got it

[safe hazel]

daimon
>brutus
rowan
>thoran
ferael

swap brutus and thoran as well if rowan and ferael just get instant destroyed

[polar whale]

This seems impossible, guess I'll wait for tomorrow and try to do it with a friend rental. Which hero would do well in that fight?

[safe hazel]

you should be able to win with daimon 160 and rest of heroes 140 if you have +10 daimon

for merc lucrieta

[polar whale]

The fights aren't even close no matter what configuration I use.

[lost night]

Help pls

[earnest plume]

Kren in place of your backline graveborn.

[lilac marsh]

Hello does anyone have any tips for this stage

[trail raven]

pls dont judge how many mythics i have i was told by a friend i should not do that 💀💀💀

[silk ibex]

Do you have Nara? She's a hard counter to Isabelle and you should have her by now

[lilac marsh]

Yes I do have her. but she is not on the crystal since i dont have any slot left

[zinc island]

Hii😍

[arctic forge]

Hard stuck on 32 20

[trail raven]

BOOTYHOLE KING---

[zinc island]

I need help. 😕 again, chapter 10 is whooping my ass.

[zinc island]

Yes ofc😍

[silk ibex]

Maybe save your next RC slot for her since she makes Isabelle fights a lot easier

[zinc island]

You think You could help me with this<><><><>

[silk ibex]

Show box

[zinc island]

Brutus is the only reason my team is staying alive,

And my Brutus is oxygen😍🪦🎖

Alr.

@silk ibex ^^ sorry for ping

[silk ibex]

@zinc island You're putting your levels into the wrong Heroes first of all. Try stalling Saveas with Brutus?

[zinc island]

That’s crystal. Unless you mean the 5 that effect the crystal 💀

[arctic laurel]

Tips?

[silk ibex]

Yes. You're supposed to level your fodder not the actual Heroes themselves

[silk ibex]

Try swapping Mirael and Daimon

[arctic laurel]

I mostly went like that since I wanted daimon to get t he heals from Rowan, but ill try

Should I ceci back mid to try and lower shem's damage output instead? Nara doesnt seem to do much

[silk ibex]

Try Golus instead of Rowan if he can't heal?

[arctic laurel]

Even if rowan dies, the heal cart still stays

[safe hazel]

swap rowan and nara then swap nara for golus?

[arctic laurel]

I've also thought about arden cheese again since iirc he can stop ult casts with his root?

Well with any cc, but he has the root. Oden dies too fast to do much

[safe hazel]

oden is for his reposition ability without investment

[arctic laurel]

Shemira dieing in the end saved my butt

Call on mirael maybe?

Nevermind, she double ulted and wiped.

[reef ore]

one beat 37-56 with the new decrease?

[summer cedar]

don't use eye in cheese if it's not 5*. even something like blade is better

[reef ore]

i switched back to eye and beat it so idk

[summer cedar]

swap frontline

[summer cedar]

this comp doesn't work without an Eironn. Skri is a garbage unit without either +30 or 3f.

[silk burrow]

with? or without

[safe hazel]

why not ainzbedo first stage then luc second?

[late rampart]

for chapter 12 who are two good ppl for front line

[summer cedar]

Nm i see what u mean. Good catch

[safe hazel]

hogan and golus

[naive kayak]

I need help iv tried many line ups but none of them seem to be working.

[arctic laurel]

Anyone got any tips regarding this? Arden has call and can permaroot if rng is in my favor ( him rooting estrilda and hogan ), but I don't seem to be able to pass

[safe hazel]

swap daimon and arden and rowan and lyca?

[arctic laurel]

Tried, if Arden is top he just dies because of Estrilda.

[harsh urchin]

yo anyone that can help me?

[arctic laurel]

So he can't permaroot anymore

[safe hazel]

does daimon not do enough damage tho

[arctic laurel]

Hi5 same stage lol

[safe hazel]

you can try replace arden with no weap fere

[harsh urchin]

lol

[safe hazel]

swap hogan and arden then arden for lyca

probably get rid of oden for something else

[harsh urchin]

we had this one earlier this chapter btw i cleared it with this

but doesnt work on the new one

[arctic laurel]

Youre closer to 160 on crystal than me

[harsh urchin]

well yeah you cant be any closer than me

[harsh urchin]

got fucking bitchslapped

[arctic laurel]

@safe hazel Ferael just gets instakilled, doesn't even get the chance to fear, especially if he's at top back. Belinda slaps him.

[harsh urchin]

try this if u can @arctic laurel

[arctic laurel]

youve got higher levels than mine, if yours didnt work, mine wont either lol

[harsh urchin]

your daimon is better

[arctic laurel]

He's still a sneeze away from death

[harsh urchin]

so is mine lol

[arctic laurel]

And asc doesnt matter, levels do

[safe hazel]

I cleared it with L daimon at 140 and mirael L+ 160 I think

[harsh urchin]

why is your L+ daimon not lvl 160

[safe hazel]

just unlucky you still need 1 more daimon copy to get him to M

[arctic laurel]

Mine's L, not L+

[harsh urchin]

oh yeah shit

[arctic laurel]

If he was L+, he wouldve been mythic already lol

[harsh urchin]

why is he L

[fervent compass]

Can I get some formation ideas ?

[arctic laurel]

@harsh urchin I only have 3 daimons, I need 1 more to ascend him

[safe hazel]

read pinned guide in #classic-questions stop ascending A tier heroes

[harsh urchin]

yeah same but why did u even get him to L

[arctic laurel]

Thought it would help tbh

[safe hazel]

focus 5 fodder to L+

[fervent compass]

This has been almost winning, iv tried 7 diff formations and they get destroyed. This is the closest…

[harsh urchin]

you dont get formation ideas bro its different every stage

[fervent compass]

Ah

[safe hazel]

raku
>lyca
mirael
>lucius
rosa(follow mirael)

[harsh urchin]

id use mireal

[fervent compass]

Ok il try that now

[harsh urchin]

when do merc reset? today or tmrw

[safe hazel]

DON'T ascend any A tier heroes past e+ for now

[fervent compass]

Yes sir

[arctic laurel]

in like 3 hrs

[harsh urchin]

oh might use some merc then

[arctic laurel]

it'll be 2am for me, ill be long sleeping

I wake up for work at 6am, should be sleeping already

[harsh urchin]

it resets at 1 am for me

[fervent compass]

@safe hazel super close, only 2 enemies were left.

[safe hazel]

keep retrying

[harsh urchin]

i fucking hate estrilda

[fervent compass]

The big lion guy does not die… just erases everyone. 1v5s

[arctic laurel]

Brutus in a nutshell.

[safe hazel]

or you can try shem instead of raku

[fervent compass]

I dont have gear for shem, but i got full yellow set for raku. I can take off mariels gear for shem if you think that’s better @safe hazel

[safe hazel]

depends if raku is outputting enough damage

[safe hazel]

try shem and see the difference

and which one is better

[arctic laurel]

https://app.prntscr.com/en/index.html you'll thank me later

[fervent compass]

Shem for raku? Or for mariul

[safe hazel]

why not just windows + shift + S

[arctic laurel]

Got used to lightshot tbh, I installed it at work too lol.

[fervent compass]

Sorry 😂 im awful with computers and technology

[harsh urchin]

why not just alt + prt sc

[arctic laurel]

Not trying to be rude or anything, hope you understand that lmao

[harsh urchin]

i hate this stage

can enstrilda not just die

[arctic laurel]

Yeah tell me about it, being that close to the end

[fervent compass]

Is brutus weak to anything when hes in god mode?

[harsh urchin]

i finally got it

[arctic laurel]

@vmr try this, get call on Arden and get him the best boots you've got so he gets haste

[arctic laurel]

Welp, I was late

But why the hell is Arden frontlining.

[harsh urchin]

i dont have the potion guy i forgot what hes called

[harsh urchin]

because he can

[silk ibex]

Can he tho

[arctic laurel]

Rowan, and guess what, I've got 8 Rowans, 6 Odens and 4 Thorans but only 2 natural Daimons. 3rd was from ch12 chest.

[harsh urchin]

apparently he can

[arctic laurel]

And yes @silk ibex just gimme the fodder Ican get rowan to A

[harsh urchin]

yeah i have 2 daimons aswell

[silk ibex]

How's your Hogan?

[fervent compass]

Tried Shem, shes actually terrible…. Like rosa did more dps. Retried 7 times and rosa still did more dps

[harsh urchin]

nice hogan lol

R+ for the win

[silk ibex]

Ascend 1 Hogan to E+

[arctic laurel]

Wouldn't he just melt at E+ though

[silk ibex]

I mean for fodder but okay

[arctic laurel]

Ah well

What are my odds of getting a L+ soon

[fervent compass]

Damn so thats what following the guide looks like

[arctic laurel]

I'm p sure I need either 1 more R+ silvina or a R+ vedan to get another L+ fodder, is it recommended to get Oden to Mythic too?

He won't really have any SI for a while though, as I need to focus on Daimon and Rowan

[harsh urchin]

please someone help because fucking hell do i hate estrilda

[harsh urchin]

he acc doesnt

[harsh urchin]

no go for ascended

well either daimon to mythic or oden to ascended

[arctic laurel]

Oden needs 2 more copies for Ascended.

[harsh urchin]

yeah then wait for them

my oden needs 3 more but i still have the chapter 12 chest

[arctic laurel]

I need a mythic to be able to get the red chests from events though.

[harsh urchin]

even so

thats what the people in this discord told me so 🤷‍♂️

[safe hazel]

yh M oden is fine

[harsh urchin]

others told me otherwise

[safe hazel]

depends on your box

Kree has no other carry options

[arctic laurel]

I don't wanna be an elitist though

[safe hazel]

so oden is a decent choice

[harsh urchin]

what abt this box then

[safe hazel]

how many daimon copies?

[harsh urchin]

2 + hcp

[safe hazel]

i'd ascend someone in a different fac if you can

is there no other carry you have in a different faction?

[harsh urchin]

not really

[safe hazel]

yh i'd do it then unless you are really patient and get lucky

[harsh urchin]

i think imma just hope for 1 more daimon then use hcp for m+

[safe hazel]

yh you can do that

I think at that point I ascended ferael and pippa and double garrisoned ainz and albedo

[harsh urchin]

yeahh im not that lucky

[safe hazel]

but that's obviously not advised

[harsh urchin]

nah ofc none of them are carries lol

[safe hazel]

nah that crap was unlucky I had no carries at 4 copies

[harsh urchin]

yh thats the unlucky part

shit is hard

[safe hazel]

swap silvina and arden then silvina with hogan/golus

[zinc island]

I’m stuck on a lvl 10 stage 😍

Chapter 10^^

@safe hazel

[safe hazel]

post your box

[zinc island]

Alr. <>

[safe hazel]

you looked at beginner guide right

[zinc island]

I’m looking at it rn on a diff tab 👁👄👁

[harsh urchin]

idk why but arden isnt rooting anyone

[zinc island]

That’s why I reset my hero’s😉

[safe hazel]

try call on him

[harsh urchin]

it was on mirael what do i put on her?

[safe hazel]

take daimon to L then level him and level silvina,mirael,arden as well

[safe hazel]

you can put grace on arden then actually

[zinc island]

Well here’s the issue,

👁👄👁

[safe hazel]

not shem mb

[safe hazel]

fodder both silvinas and level vedan instead then

[harsh urchin]

still isnt rooting

[safe hazel]

try fera no weap instead of arden

[harsh urchin]

ferael? and wdym no weap

[idle oriole]

Take his weapon off

[hollow hatch]

Fereal without a weapon fears faster than normal

[harsh urchin]

but all other gear on right

[safe hazel]

yeah

[zinc island]

So use silvinas as fodders for Daimon then level vedan

But since he’s not elite+ I might have to use crystal.

[harsh urchin]

still getting my shit rocked

[safe hazel]

so
daimon
>thoran
mirael
>lyca
ferael(no weap)

[safe hazel]

that doesn't work? @harsh urchin

[harsh urchin]

lemme try

[safe hazel]

you can use an A tier at e+ for now then replace them with a fodder hero as soon as possible

[harsh urchin]

nah

[safe hazel]

do a crap ton of retries

[idle oriole]

Tried nara to cc isabella? Helped me clear most isa stages

[idle oriole]

This too lol

[safe hazel]

nara also helps as well for isabella yh

[harsh urchin]

tried but doesnt work

[idle oriole]

Idk much about it but ppl use oden as a carry apparently? Maybe if u don’t get enough daimons u can develop him or smthin xd

[harsh urchin]

yeah thats what im gonna do

if i have enough copies to get oden to ascended ill do it

but if i get a daimon copy first ill get daimon to mythic

[idle oriole]

Ye

[safe hazel]

eirron instead of lyca

[harsh urchin]

fuck this im using a merc

[amber beacon]

Would an E Eironn make a difference? I've been saving an RC slot.

[safe hazel]

yeah it will work

he just need to pull the enemies then they all focus brutus and daimon can do a lot of damage

[amber beacon]

Alright thanks a ton!

[safe hazel]

that lineup worked for me until ch 27 btw

keep levelling daimon and get him to 203 and you should be good

[amber beacon]

Cool. Thanks! Not excited about the dust wall though.

[harsh urchin]

this game is so weird i had to use a merc for the stage before the boss but then clear the boss in a couple tries

[idle oriole]

lol yea, it happens

[harsh urchin]

Alright so that was chapter 13, summary: annoying with LBs

[quartz jewel]

I just got to chapter 20 myself

[harsh urchin]

lets gooooooo i got a daimon

DAMN I GOT NO FODDER

[idle oriole]

lmao

[quartz jewel]

Yeah that’s my issue too I have 1 daimon but need another to get to purple+ then I can insta legendary it I think

[safe hazel]

Don’t do that

[surreal violet]

Hi, stuck on 29-60. Any suggestions?

[silk burrow]

daimon to 20 and 3 furn

[amber beacon]

@safe hazel your suggestion worked. Thanks again!

[safe hazel]

Np

That dust wall is gonna be real for you though btw

[silk burrow]

and stop making so many mythics and legendaries

[past urchin]

Is your Daimon linked to PoP btw?
If so I suggest you undo it and link him to Nemora.

[silk burrow]

also don’t engrave random heroes

[surreal violet]

Oh alright, yeah ill change that

[surreal violet]

I just started a couple weeks ago 😅

[silk burrow]

and you’re wasting a lot of fodder

[quartz jewel]

Why not?

[surreal violet]

I learned the lesson the other day not to make so many m and l and engrave randoms lol 😅

[silk burrow]

because you can’t make him m at least and at ch20 he probably won’t do much without his si20 at least

[quartz jewel]

I need a better team comp overall still then

[safe hazel]

Post your stage

[surreal violet]

What lineup should i use fro 29-60 though (i have daimon only at 173)

[silk burrow]

send the stage we don’t know them by memory

[quartz jewel]

This team is from when I stopped playing back when Arthur was first introduced 😅

[silk burrow]

switch talene and daimon

[idle oriole]

i stopped playing at the same time lol, the shemira days

[silk burrow]

also maybe replace thoran with brutus

and then put brutus in front of daimon

[surreal violet]

My brutus is only rare though. Does it matter?

[silk burrow]

that’s enough

[past urchin]

Give him barricade.
You can even run him without any gear.
It wont change anything.

[silk burrow]

barricade unlocks at 29?

[past urchin]

Yup.
Its the first class arti.

[surreal violet]

I got smoked 😅

[past urchin]

Does your Rowan have T2 boots/weapon?

[surreal violet]

I need something to level up her boots. Hers arent lb

[past urchin]

He may have problems tanking Athalia then.
Try swapping him and Talene.

[autumn orbit]

I rlly want to finish chapter 10 to get the faction scrolls while gb is still the faction choice thing

Oops Nara is actually E+ now but for the rest it’s the same

[past urchin]

Do you have a free crystal slot?

[autumn orbit]

Yea

[frozen harness]

mirael in nara pos. drop nara for arden

[autumn orbit]

Okay I’ll try it but won’t Isabelle just ult and kill my whole team then

[violet hound]

What happens on the fight as is?

[summer cedar]

can you use a merc?

[violet hound]

Because I think replacing Nara with Silvia might help

[violet hound]

His merc look locked to me

[autumn orbit]

Can use a Merc in like 45 min but then the day resets and I have to wait 4 days for gb to be back lol

[royal stag]

Put Daimon on ur Crystal

[violet hound]

Who dies and when?

[autumn orbit]

I’ll take a vid brb

[violet hound]

Wrong message my child

[frozen harness]

just tell us, do u survive 10 secs?

[autumn orbit]

I do but with Arden it’s worse

[violet hound]

Or does anyone ult? And if so who and in what order?

[autumn orbit]

With Nara I survive like a solid 20 or smth

[past urchin]

[frozen harness]

Arden for silvina then

[autumn orbit]

30 secs with Nara actually

[frozen harness]

yea do that and change thoran pos with golus

[autumn orbit]

Alright I’ll try that and get back to u

[violet hound]

I would also consider putting Silas in the top not the bottom spot

[past urchin]

Put Daimon in your crystal slots.
Oden

Thoran
Mirael
Golus
Daimon.

[autumn orbit]

Isabelle ults and one shots my whole team without nara that’s the problem

[autumn orbit]

Ill try this

[violet hound]

I think of you use Silvia instead of Nara and have miral ult from back middle isa will die before she can ult

[autumn orbit]

No silvina focused on the hypogean mage at the back

[past urchin]

Silvina is probably going to jump one of the hypogean mages

[violet hound]

Forgot the were “int” hero’s

[autumn orbit]

Isabella and vedan are still ulting and one shorting everyone

[past urchin]

Kk.

Then try like this.
Oden

Thoran
Nara
Daimon
Mirael

Does Oden do anything even?
If he doesnt ult, we gotta replace him.

[autumn orbit]

No he doesn’t ult but he gets his portal then he dies rlly quickly after

[past urchin]

Drop him then.
Try Arden or Pippa or Silas.
Pippa is gonna need a solid few retries btw.
She is very rng heavy at this stage in the game.

[autumn orbit]

Alright thanks I’ll get back to you

Daimon gets one shot before he can even pop his shield so him frontline isn’t working

[past urchin]

To the back then.

[autumn orbit]

And who to the front?

[violet hound]

My turn now (just kidding mostly)

[autumn orbit]

Haha sorry lol this level is just so hard

[violet hound]

Nah your good just need some help myself too

[autumn orbit]

WAIT I DID IT I WAS JUST RANDOMLY RNGING WITH THE DAIMON FRONT STILL AND IT WORKED THANK YOU

[prime scroll]

any formation suggestions I’m not sure which to use and I’m stuck on 8-12

[past urchin]

Told you.
Congrats :)

[violet hound]

Nvm on mine lol I figured out the fight

[valid pier]

I just qualified for the legends championship group stage for the first time, and while I think I could put together five decent pvp teams I have no idea what to do for seven. Anyone have any advice for teams?

[harsh urchin]

I need some help because im getting rocked

[west walrus]

You have L+ units use them

[split peak]

Or get urself a 5 star ascended max engraved 409 luc that might help

[harsh urchin]

Yeah and i get absolutely destroyed

[pure flare]

3 teams pvp formations for event?

[harsh urchin]

Yeah might help not sure tho

[split peak]

Lol u have 13 heroes on ur crystal how are u expecting to make 3 teams out of them

Maybe stop making so many legendaries

[harsh urchin]

So many legendaries it hurts

[pure flare]

In event you have all of them at same lvl tho

[split peak]

U wont be too competitive regardless just wing it comps wont do much to help

[pure flare]

Wdm about that many legendaries

I cant get another daimon which i want to focus, working on farael cuz i have copies for ascended and im f2p :/

[split peak]

For a long time fodder is a massive shortage ur making that situation worse by creating legendaries that have no path to upgrade unless u get more copies and draining of the ability to ascend ur top5

[pure flare]

Y i know, but eg thesku carried my early game, bcs i got copies of jim fast and now its just sitting there

[split peak]

It took me until about lvl 440~ to start getting ahead of my fodder needs

[faint current]

You have used 8 e+ Graveborn fodders on heroes that aren’t A, plus one un-used.

It takes 10 e+ to ascend a hero to A, and you have the copies for Ferael A. You could have been almost at Ferael A

[split peak]

Remember its crucial to build up firstly your carry hero and the top 5 the rest will have to wait

[pure flare]

So who should i drop and focus on? Also i try not to use elite heroes as fodder not to regret later?

[faint current]

You don’t use 4-skill heroes as fodder correct

[pure flare]

Thats what i mean

Like isabelle is bad and shemira is useless kinda now, but i still think its bad to use them as fodder

[split peak]

Skreg was awful years ago now he is a very useful hero one of the best from the early crop of heroes actually

[pure flare]

So top5 for me is thoran, lyca, brutus, rowan and farael cuz i have copies of him?

And ignore the rest for now?

[harsh urchin]

So can anyone actually help me?

[split peak]

U dont need thoran and brutus in one team thats a ton of tanking and nowhere enough dps

[pure flare]

I dont use brutus, just lvling him to get crystal further @split peak

[split peak]

Ge needs to be replaced

[pure flare]

I know, but my maulers are in bad spot, no fodder no copies of elitę heroes

[split peak]

The legendaries u created is why ur seeing such a shortage of fodder

[split peak]

Also at this point for u its not helpful to look at factions too much after u get a decent team of 5 to 240 u can start working on a team of 5 for each of the big factions

[pure flare]

Yeah i started to soon with it

Wsnted to push faction tower

[split peak]

Its too soon faction tower can wait

[pure flare]

So for now last tip, which 5 should i focus on?

Ive put daimon on wishign elite hero

Bcs i unlocked it few days agi

[split peak]

Start looking at getting ur first celo or hypo by grinding the challenger store a good f2p top 5 is the daimon or eironn comp

[trail raven]

first lineup wins but in second luc keeps being killed by safiya

[pure flare]

Which one should i buy from store?

[split peak]

Ezizh is a great choice

I am actually starting my athalia rn she is decent also but requires some heavy ass investments to be truly good

[pure flare]

Got those

[split peak]

I mean build ezizh to ascended one copy will do nothing

[pure flare]

Yeah i know

Still up to date?

@split peak thanks for help

[harsh urchin]

Is someone willing to help me or still not interested

[slim portal]

Some still relevant, but some is kinda outdated but works in lower deficit. For example Alna + Grez instead of Alna + Daimon for the optimal Alna GB.
Me follows this:

https://www.reddit.com/r/afkarena/comments/r8nr68/endgame_pve_formations_visual_guides_redorb/

[naive kayak]

I need help with this lv iv tried many different line ups multiple times but nothing seems to work

[trail raven]

drop talene for shemira

[slim portal]

Nara hook the Arden and you should be fine.

[naive kayak]

Doesnt work talene is the one that does like 80% of the dmge and i also tried that now

[trail raven]

drop lyca for shemira then

[naive kayak]

Tried that too

[trail raven]

then idk

[naive kayak]

Is it just really hard for my lv/ limited characters

[trail raven]

can you level up your heroes???

[naive kayak]

Only one more lv but i doubt that would do anything

Like the lv 156 to 157

[trail raven]

why not might win you the battle

[naive kayak]

Yeah ill try it ig

[slim portal]

It more on very bad investment and slows down your progress by a ton. Try,
Frontline: Lyca Brutus
Backline: Daimon Rowan Nara/Ferael without weapon

Read beginner guide here: <#classic-questions message>

[brazen cosmos]

Could anyone help me with a cursed realm formation. I’m at 48% I don’t have some of the heroes to make the best line up ect..

[silk burrow]

one copy does a lot wdym. zolrath would be a better choice for A

[pale kettle]

Help :(

[vague gale]

Have you tried removing fareal for kren?

[pale kettle]

Is kren good?

Kren worked :o thank you

[naive hamlet]

they just out heal my dps

nvm i got it literally the next try lmao

[arctic laurel]

Initially I thought using merc here, but 13-39 has Estrilda, Isabella, Mirael and Grezhul and I'd rather get a free pass there lmao. Got any ideas here?

[fervent compass]

I’m on 6-22 floor and I can’t win…. I’m following the guide and it’s not working for me 😦

[solid stirrup]

I mean u have a nice daimon, how is it not working?

[fervent compass]

Daimon dies

[solid stirrup]

ok it’d b nice to see what the stage is and what ur formation is

[solid stirrup]

can u send a picture of ur other heroes

also if u have daimon, u don’t need mirael just put in another support instead of her

[solid stirrup]

you could use rowan instead of mirael

[fervent compass]

Ok il try that

[solid stirrup]

just put him on RC

[fervent compass]

Ty! I win the fight

[solid stirrup]

yup , that formation will probably be good for a lot of the stages

[fervent compass]

Hope so 🙂 thnx

[topaz condor]

stucked here..any advice?

[solid stirrup]

Lyca front line instead of daimon and brutus instead of izold

[sacred pivot]

Nemora always keeps out healing my dmg

[topaz condor]

thx it worked

[pale kettle]

Comp ideas? Saving Ainz for the last day so that if I get stuck I can get one more level ahead before merc reset after 1 week

[ashen zenith]

1 Grezhul, 2 Talene, 3 Nara, 4 Mirael, 5 Daimon/Scarlet

[pale kettle]

so its like:
front line: grezhul talene
then: nara, mirael, daimon right? thanks

[ashen zenith]

yes, I mean this

[pale kettle]

ah ok, i never really saw that xD

also mirael keeps dying before her ult gets ready... shld i replace her w/ someone else?

[ashen zenith]

Who kills Mirael?

[pale kettle]

ah just replaced her with lyca and it worked, thanks

[ashen zenith]

oh ok good job

[pale kettle]

err honestly i think the mobs just aggro on her after everyone else dies and then they go to daimon

tnaks just get melted tbh

[ashen zenith]

oh ok alright

[upbeat fern]

what packs can be made?

[zinc island]

Think you could help me😍😍

[ashen zenith]

Need help?

[zinc island]

Yes.

Here’s the stage and my box

Also tysm^^!

[ashen zenith]

I don't see the image.

[zinc island]

!

[solid stirrup]

level daimon and use him as carry

daimon oden grez lyca golus

[ashen zenith]

that's fine ⤴️

[solid stirrup]

golus grez frontline rest just put wherever and should be fine

[pale kettle]

Help please, it's the saveas that usually kills me but it basically melts my nara before i can even hook it .-.

[ashen zenith]

Try with Lyca for more haste

[solid stirrup]

^^ drop nara

[pale kettle]

ah ok ty

[solid stirrup]

If that doesn’t work go ferael

[pale kettle]

nope not working for both sadly :(
ferael gets like one or two shot, the lyca ill try retry spamming since it left 2 chars alive and was the closest ive ever been

[solid stirrup]

alr spam lyca retry but also move around ur characters, I usually prefer daimon top or bottom rather than mid

[pale kettle]

ah ok

[potent oasis]

Any lineup advice for this section of this boss stage? They completely cream even my best lineup (and that's not even taking into account the other 4 stages!):

[solid stirrup]

lyca/oden for eironn?

[pale kettle]

Comp ideas?

[solid stirrup]

oden for nara

[pale kettle]

ah ok ty

[amber beacon]

Will try that. Thanks!

[pale kettle]

Comp ideas?

[solid stirrup]

how many times have u retried it

[pale kettle]

new stage so... around 3 minutes?

Help :(

[solid stirrup]

nara won’t do anything here

[pale kettle]

Dang it

[solid stirrup]

go rowan/oden/ferael

[pale kettle]

Okay

Numiru annoying

[solid stirrup]

bro just retry at least 10 times and swap around, rng is a huge factor. I’ve retired stages like 100 times same formation and had it work

[pale kettle]

Healing sticks everywhere

Nvm oden and rowan worked

[pale kettle]

ah ok

[lunar quarry]

Is Talene better carry than Daimon ? Just start the game

[pale kettle]

Daimon carry is op not sure how good talene is in early game

[solid stirrup]

I doubt ur getting enough talenes for her to be a carry

[lunar quarry]

oh wait i need 4 copy of her right?

[solid stirrup]

idk but she’s a celestial or whatever

[slim portal]

Awakened talene or original talene?

[lunar quarry]

The legendary

[slim portal]

It free legendary to carry new players until 110+ level of enemies, pretty good startup. But after that should focus on L+ fodder mirael or Daimon to progress further.

Read beginner guide: <#classic-questions message>

Don’t forget those juicy free code