lineup-help

[silk ibex]

@graceful quiver Curious, did you use the codes? Your box looks a little bit empty

You have a very distinct lack of Graveborns in that box

[graceful quiver]

I used all the codes, but didnt do the 50 faction summons cuz iam waiting for graveborn

[silk ibex]

Ah, I'm assuming you set your wishlist correctly according to the guide as well? Some odd pulls here or there but I'm guessing Purple Stones

[graceful quiver]

And yeah could be cuz of the purple stones ^^

[silk ibex]

You can set Rosa to Cecilia to get one copy first. Never really found much use for her other than Twisted Realm tho. Same with Wilders, getting 1 copy of Safiya before wishlisting Skreg

They may or may not help but I think it's good to grab a copy for early Faction Towers

[graceful quiver]

After 1 Copy Switch Back?

[autumn orbit]

Can’t figure this one out and I don’t have enough purple dust to level thoran

[silk ibex]

Yeh

[silk ibex]

Remove Raine for Oden in RC. Also is Isabelle killing your team with her Ult?

[daring root]

Cameback from work and reset everything ! Should I stick to the guide and lvl the 5 proposed only and put Daimon and others in RC ? But wondering if i go with Daimon/thoran(or brutus) //Lycas/gwyn and maybe another GB comp for pushing campaign?

Theses are the one I have.

[silk ibex]

You already have Daimon at L with 3 copies, I'd say prioritize levelling him instead of Mirael.

At this point Mythic Daimon is all but guaranteed for you after Ch12

If you read the guide I think it goes without saying, don't Ascend anything to L/L+ except fodders right now

[amber beacon]

Thanks for the suggestions! Haven't beaten it yet but I've tried the configurations. I'll try to tryhard later.

[silk ibex]

You should use Brutus more often, he's awesome

[daring root]

Alright. I've read the whole guide but feel lost at some point. It does say to reset Daimon once fodders is lvl 100 then max Mirael and others. Why would I max her if she wont be used ? I guess because she's easy to get / lvl.. so I can overcap with Daimon and others 4 skills ?

[silk ibex]

That's why I said to level him instead of Mirael. You will eventually have enough to get him to Mythic. This actually eliminates the need to level Mirael and use her as a carry.

It's good to have more L+ fodder tho so once you're done getting Hogan to L+ just work on getting some other random LB fodder to L+

[daring root]

Would it still be better ( once fodders maxed ) to switch to use daimon / lycas / thoran / ferael / nara ( and rowan ) once they are all in RC ? Or its not worth since fodders are going to be E+/L/L+. Can't find where it says to only use the fodders in battle until X chapters ?
Sorry for all the questions. Even with the guide it's quite complicated :p ( english isnt my first language tho )

[silk ibex]

Resetting Daimon to level Mirael is for people who don't have him ready for M and therefore can't really take him to L+. But since you can, just level him instead.

As for the others. Fodders are easier to get to L+ so you level them to 160 to get RC160 for your E/E+ Heroes instead of having waste fodder Ascending them early.

You transition to RC180 after you've decided and planned out which 5 Heroes you wanna take to Mythic and hopefully Ascended eventually

[arctic laurel]

Mirael is my carry, she needs to deal with estrilda

[silk ibex]

@daring root So say you have L+ Lv160 Hogan, and you get 4 copies of Rowan, that's enough to get him to M. So you gather 2 more E+ LB fodders, and together with your L+ Hogan feed them to Rowan and get him to M. You get back the 160 levels you spent on Hogan, so you put them back onto Rowan and continue levelling him from there till he hits Lv180.

Hope I didn't make it too hard to understand

[arctic laurel]

I did try everything, they mostly escape close to death, but the rng is harsh. Estrilda needs to get rooted and needs to not crit, mirael needs to shield herself and needs to crit, daimon needs to deal enough damage to get estrilda to half HP so mirael can kill her

Sorry, discord was ded for me

[silk ibex]

Yeh, maybe level up a bit or retry spam

[arctic laurel]

Im short on dust, thats the issue right now

It's 6k each from 140 to 160, it hurts

[silk ibex]

Trust me it hurts even more for me. I need 30k for Lv201 on Ferael and 40k more for Lv221

[arctic laurel]

Ew, tf.

[silk ibex]

Dust Wall is a real issue. I'm trying to rush to Ch29 so I can spend all my insta-dusts

[arctic laurel]

Do they think dust grows on trees?

[arctic laurel]

I was dumb and used lots of them already as I needed the dust

When should I start hoarding them tho

[silk ibex]

Now.

Don't worry, you'll cap out at 99 for the 2 hour ones so you can spend the excess

I'm hoarding the 8 and 24 hours ones tho so I can pop them at Ch29

[arctic laurel]

I could buy the dust from the shop but then I'll be out of gold in no time

Now I need 800 more for another 160 hero

I suppose once I feed mirael to rowan, I get the dust, exp and coins back? Or do I need to reset beforehand

[clever patio]

ahhh ok ill start workin on furn for pippa

[silk ibex]

Your daily Gold gains should be more than enough to sustain buying Dust every day tho

[silk ibex]

You get it back, save yourself 20 Diamonds

[worthy wadi]

@silk ibex

[silk ibex]

Has anyone made it aware to you yet that you sort of messed up with that many L+ Heroes?

[worthy wadi]

i can only ascend shemira or thoran but lack fodder

[worthy wadi]

ye learned too late...

[silk ibex]

Forget Shemira, she's Top 5 worst GBs

[worthy wadi]

but would linking her to the new dem be good?

i only made those 2 maulers l+ to save box space

[silk ibex]

It's not worth it to Ascend a Hero for the sole purpose of linking a Dimensional, especially at Ch20

[silk ibex]

You can't avoid buying box slots, you're making more work for yourself instead of just paying the 100/200/300 Diamonds for it

Think of it this way, save your fodder for a better Hero = faster progress = faster you earn back the Diamonds you spent on box slots

[autumn orbit]

@silk ibex sorry discord was down for me but at least 2 of my heroes usually die before Isabelle outs and kills the rest

And silvina is taking down Silas before he can heal anyone

[elfin cloak]

oops lmao

[silk ibex]

Maybe bait with a lower-defense Mage since you don't have Rowan

[autumn orbit]

Ohh good idea also should I get Rowan with the exchange tokens from the card thing

And now that I added Odin he’s the low defense mage getting one shot lol

[silk ibex]

Don't exchange Heroes in Event. Trade for fodder chests and pick Graveborn since you can't get Red Chests

[autumn orbit]

Oh okay also those are red chest aren’t they?

Yea they say red factional hero chest

[silk ibex]

Red Chests means Red Emblem Chests, the ones you use to level Signature Items from +20 to +30

These

You unlock those when you have at least 1 Mythic Hero

[autumn orbit]

Ohhh okay

Should I use shemira as fodder as well btw cause apparently you should never use her anyway

[elfin cloak]

nop

[silk ibex]

@autumn orbit Better to have 8 copies of a Hero no matter how bad in case of meta shifts

Plus Shem's useful for Twisted Realm and Dim Links later on

[elfin cloak]

^

[autumn orbit]

K thanks

[silk ibex]

Awakened Walker

[elfin cloak]

10/10 idea

[autumn orbit]

Also… still can’t figure out that level that I asked you abt earlier lmao

It tried oden but everyone gets demolished by Isabelle ult

[silk ibex]

Yeah Isabelle's a real problem in campaign since her buff over a year ago

Her Ult now one-shots you if she gets to cast it. Best way to deal with that is either Oden's Ult or more directly, Nara

[west walrus]

You need Ascended heroes to unlock more HCPs and dim keys. Requires 50 Ascended heroes (not including dims) to max it and you'll be forced to ascend shit heroes as well to make this happen.

[silk ibex]

@autumn orbit Send your box btw, and the stage again, I could have sworn you were past the point where you could get a chest for Nara

[silk ibex]

Pretty sure the Nara chest unlocks at like Ch8, are you sure you didn't spend it on something else?

[autumn orbit]

oh wait i remember that chest... i forget what i used it on tho

what were the options in that chest?

[solid stirrup]

I used mine on x10 faction scrolls

[autumn orbit]

oh yeah same thats what i used it on

[solid stirrup]

Such a bait

I’d put nara on ur wishlist until u get one copy bc of it she wins isabella stages for u

[autumn orbit]

instead of who?

[silk ibex]

Thoran prolly

[solid stirrup]

i had to retry those stages like 100-300 times without nara

[autumn orbit]

wait rlly?? i already have 5 copies of thoran shouldn't i go for more

[solid stirrup]

Thoran kinda lame early tbh

mine is still e+ but I have 8 copies

[autumn orbit]

oh okay

[solid stirrup]

but either way just put nara on wishlist and then swap thoran back when you get one nara

[autumn orbit]

well i already have him L+ might as well get him to mythic right

or should i get silas to mythic first

[solid stirrup]

Idk I haven’t used either of them much might want to ask someone else, I brought my oden to M first

kinda sucks you don’t have daimon

[silk ibex]

You won't see much use out of Thoran until well past Ch30

[autumn orbit]

yeah ikr i got 5 copies of thoran 5 copies of silas 5 copies of scarlett and not one daimon

[silk ibex]

You can HCP Daimon if worse comes to worst and you get someone else A before him

[solid stirrup]

I think siilas is ok

[autumn orbit]

what is hcp stand for

[solid stirrup]

Hero choice pack, need to ascend a hero to unlock it

it’s basically a x10 but is 3000 and replaces whatever epic with what u want to select

[silk ibex]

Silas M is kinda iffy. You already have L Thoran so just work on getting him to M I guess. For RC180

If it were a worse Hero you could've probably foddered them as L+ fodder but it's Thoran so... rip

[autumn orbit]

yeah thats too bad lol

[silk ibex]

Hero Choice Pull, pick one Hero and when you get an Elite from that pull it's guaranteed to be what you picked. You start off with only 1 guaranteed Hero a month tho

You get more as you Ascend more Heroes to A

[worthy wadi]

thank you.
I will save for ascended thoran then.
i did manage to go to chap21 thanks to raku
what is a good team for raku?

[quasi raven]

What's a good wrizz build?

[worthy wadi]

Now that i beat chap 21 i got 20 scrolls and now got thoran ascended

what is a good team for him aand raku?

[daring root]

@silk ibex thank you very much ;) it was well explained! I'll focus on this and get more fodders so I can get them to L. While figuring which heroes I'll use with Daimon/thoran(or brutus)

[fiery wing]

raku needs +30 to work

[worthy wadi]

have that

[fiery wing]

he works best on cc comps

raku usually works on mehira comp

[worthy wadi]

ok thanks

[fiery wing]

i rather invest on daimon cause you only need his 20 sig and 3 furn to carry you until 31+

[cursive light]

Any tips ?

[slate dawn]

So I pulled an awakened talene and was wondering if she is worth replacing anyone on my current campaign team?

[sullen lance]

@vital kernel

I put barricade on brutus

[vital kernel]

Is granit ranged idk if he is or not

[sullen lance]

He is not

[vital kernel]

Did you copy that clear from afk helper

[sullen lance]

Nah, just making it up as I go along

[vital kernel]

And can granit live long enough to ult

[sullen lance]

Oh yeah. Granit is a major tank

It's just if kren lives long enough to ult, he's the last one alive and dies halfway through it

[vital kernel]

Kren isn't really a front line unit

[sullen lance]

If I didn't put him on the frontline, he would just run straight to the frontline himself and die on the way

[vital kernel]

I mean have you tried swapping kren and brutus

[sullen lance]

Not since I swapped in barricade, but I guess I can try.

That almost worked

But kren gets banished and comes back when everyone else is dead

Oh I wasn't watching, he actually gets banished twice before he can ult

[open prairie]

Just back to game after 1 year, create new account and whats thisss talene rework??

We can get legendary tier from tavern?

[tight juniper]

Not a rework, just awakened version of her.

Also, this isn't line up. More for #classic-questions

[open prairie]

Oh sorry

[pale kettle]

Any tips on who I should use?

[slim portal]

Stop making those 4 skills legend and wasting your fodder resources
Read beginner guide: <#classic-questions message>

You should have close to 5 L+ fodder heroes at this point if didn’t sacrifice them for those 4 skills heroes

[pale kettle]

I’m am confused

[pale kettle]

What does that mean

I’m on 10-14

Wait 11-14

[slim portal]

Read the beginner guide and it will give you a general ideal on what to do, instead of bad investment and facing hard stuck sooner

[pale kettle]

Oh I’m still confused though

[slim portal]

Ask in #classic-questions on what you’re confusing with, there’re many kind souls will help to answer you

[pale kettle]

Help please

[pale kettle]

team comp?

[elfin cloak]

try switching rowan and daimon

[pale kettle]

Not working :(

[earnest plume]

Help. Me. Please.

[solid stirrup]

thoran not alna

[slim portal]

Check afk helper for similar team
https://afkhelper.nax.is/kings_tower.php?floor=567

[pale kettle]

:o it worked thank you

Lyca kind of useful instead of mirael

[slim portal]

Your mirael fallen from core damage dealer, drop her for crowd control hero like ferael/Arden or even a tank should do you good progress

[solid stirrup]

thats true u have M daimon

[slim portal]

Nara hook the opponent fire girl and Wukong swap with thoran position, drop eironn for Nara

[slate dawn]

Would anyone be able to help me with a campaign lineup? Right now im using Daimon, talene, tasi, rowan, and lyca, not sure if thats okay

[solid stirrup]

whatchapter r nu\

but either way thats probably fine, you could consider using a tank instead of tasi

[earnest plume]

New talene, obviously frontline if has 30sig with high damage dealer behind her.

[slate dawn]

30sig? im not sure what that means

[earnest plume]

Oh wait nvm she's only leg

[solid stirrup]

? his taline is L

[slate dawn]

im chapter 10-29 rn

not stuck tho rn

[solid stirrup]

idk it rlly depends for each stage but i think add in a thoran or something and it'll b good

[earnest plume]

Tbh there's not much you can vantage until you get more upgraded asc heroes. @slate dawn

Just swap what L you have between forms until something works.

[slate dawn]

alright ty

[pale kettle]

I have tried like 20+ times I don't know how to deal with that estrilda

[pale kettle]

Thanks

[solid stirrup]

rowan back mid lyca top thoran bot in front

[pale kettle]

? Bot?

[solid stirrup]

thoran where ur rowan is rn

then swap rowan and lyca

[pale kettle]

Nicee I just used nara instead of ferael it worked

[lilac marsh]

Hello does anyone have any tips on how to beat this stage?

[pale kettle]

Remove Scarlett I guess and try rowan

[pale kettle]

Help this frontline is unbearable

[native wave]

Hey again

[pale kettle]

Ayo my saviour

[native wave]

Hook Ira, Daimon at the top left, 3
Tank Estrilda with Thoran, Lyca top front
Mid is perfect, Rowan 👌🏻

Oops I meant hook the lower right healer

[pale kettle]

Lol okay I was getting confused

Not working :(

[solid stirrup]

u dont want daimon behind lyca, estrilda will target and stun daimon

[native wave]

Who's the dps?

[pale kettle]

One sec I will try again and ss chart

[native wave]

Uh oh Lyca dps?!

[pale kettle]

💀

[native wave]

Daimon top front, Nara hook Ira, Thoran tank Estrilda, Rowan mid, any CC?

[pale kettle]

Ferael ?

Oden?

[native wave]

Oh Fera

[lilac marsh]

Unfortunately this doesn’t work. Maybe my team is not strong enough?

[native wave]

Who's the dps?

[pale kettle]

I blinked once and my daimon was gone....

[lilac marsh]

Raku since hes higher level

But sometimes Damon does more damage than him tho

[solid stirrup]

@pale kettle go daimon, rowan, oden backline and thoran, lyca frontline

[native wave]

On the enemy team...

[solid stirrup]

probably the hypogean mage in middle

[lilac marsh]

Oh lmao. It is Vedan

[native wave]

Yeah thought so

Scarlet top left, replace Raku with Lyca

Daimon top front, Brutus where Daimon was

[pale kettle]

Not working

[native wave]

Didn't work? Stage report?

[solid stirrup]

like just never even close or what

[silk burrow]

replace scarlet with like lyca or rowan

[lilac marsh]

That doesn’t work for me

[native wave]

Woah

Why is Raku Lv. 111? Such a waste of resources

[lost night]

Help

[native wave]

Kaz always dodging huh?

[lilac marsh]

I saw some guide that he is strong dps and I was able to get him to E+

[native wave]

Daimon is best carry

[silk burrow]

you should be leveling fodders

[lost night]

Help me

[solid stirrup]

Who is doing the dmg on ur team

[lilac marsh]

This doesn’t work either unfortunate

[pale kettle]

No one dies but my daimon melts

[native wave]

That's Ira ult huh?

[solid stirrup]

u could also just try brutus thoran frontline and drop lyca

[lilac marsh]

Yeah imma reset the ones I have rn and work on the 5 fodders to 160

[silk burrow]

switch daimon and raku maybe

[pale kettle]

Don't have Brutus

[native wave]

When rng fucks you up... :x

[solid stirrup]

o i think i looked wrong thing

[native wave]

I only got Brutus as reward, ch. 15

[solid stirrup]

whats ur formation rn

[lilac marsh]

Better than before but still not strong enough. I guess I’ll keep working on it then

Thanks guys

[native wave]

Remove Lyca, hook Ira

[solid stirrup]

do u see how ur astar is doing nothing

[native wave]

Ira again lol

[solid stirrup]

try swapping lyca thoran so lyca takes estrilda stun

[lost night]

what should I do?

[solid stirrup]

idk try using mirael in center bc ur only dps is a talene

[pale kettle]

Not working 💀

I think this is one of those cancer stages

[native wave]

@pale kettle

[pale kettle]

Who do I used instead of lyca?

[native wave]

Daimon
Nara behind him

[solid stirrup]

but pls man nara isnt going to do much bc u prob cant kill ira anyways

if u have lyca tanking estrilda stun and thoran top with daimon behind, it'll most likely pull the enemy team up into thoran stun

[native wave]

But you she can stall enough for Daimon to ult?

[pale kettle]

Yeah daimon ults

[solid stirrup]

idk man every time i tried using nara on ira it did nothing bc i still cant kill it or team

[native wave]

I usually hook on units to mitigate the damage they deal on the carries or tanks, at times to stop their CC, Nara almost never kills the hooked unit if she's under levelled

I bypassed a whole chapter like that yesterday under 3 hours :x

[solid stirrup]

yes but in this case ira isn't the entire problem

[pale kettle]

I think I have most cracked it

[native wave]

She is for Daimon?

[solid stirrup]

the front line is estrilda and fat thing im like 90% sure his daimon is just getting stun locked then ira ults and sure kills him

[pale kettle]

I ain't playing daimon frontline though

[native wave]

Estrilda is busy down though?

[solid stirrup]

is ur team not dying before u kill the front line?

[pale kettle]

They like get very weak...it's like if daimon could chain his ults I will win

[native wave]

Oh boi... look at what I'm up against...

[solid mica]

Can someone help me whit the chapter 11-40

[pale kettle]

Why is Brutus at the back?

[native wave]

To support Thoran

[solid stirrup]

kinda sus

[native wave]

Also Silvina aims for him

[solid stirrup]

@pale kettle have u tried this thing

[native wave]

Oden down? Lyca? That's asking for death...

[pale kettle]

I have a different formation I almost wonnnn daimon just needed one ult

[native wave]

Cause Ogi portals down with Estrilda, while she rides her horse across, Ogi will throw Oden away, Rowan next

[solid stirrup]

meanwhile thoran dies and respawns stunning entire team :D

[native wave]

Help me e.e

[solid stirrup]

well i wouldnt put brutus backline for starters

[native wave]

There is no dps, the whole team is tanky, if Isabella ults I'm dead

Brutus attracts Silvina

What formation do I do if Brutus not at the back?

[solid stirrup]

ok but like why wouldnt u just put brutus where lyca is? that way hes also tanking grez and ur lyca doesnt just die for free?

[pale kettle]

This is my best formation so far

[native wave]

Isabella ults... REEEEE

[pale kettle]

Lmao

[native wave]

Oml Estrilda vs Daimon?!
That's his nightmare... poor kid

[solid stirrup]

have u tried w/o nara bc i swear its legit not doing anything anyways

[solid mica]

I need help pls

[solid stirrup]

mate ur gonna have to send what heroes u have like otherwise wtf am i supposed to say?

[solid stirrup]

idk if anyone told u but shemira is kinda bad

[solid mica]

I wait for chapter 12 finish ruhen i get free paimon

[solid stirrup]

i mean what formation have u been using and whats happening

[solid mica]

Walt

[native wave]

Paimon lol

[solid mica]

somerhing like this but i tryied already so much

[native wave]

Shemira!?

[solid stirrup]

ok what if u put oden for scarlett and swapped thoran lucius

[solid mica]

Walt

Dead

[raven egret]

Stuck. Can’t do shit with Fawkes there

[solid stirrup]

but like how dead

[solid mica]

But closere

[pale kettle]

I swear the ira is so goddamn annoying

[solid stirrup]

sometimes nara interrupts fawkes at least when i spammed it a lot

[solid mica]

The middle Guy like instant die

[raven egret]

Just keep trying Nara? Lol

[native wave]

Hahaha Eironn saved the day!

[solid stirrup]

thats how i interrupted fawkes

either that or wait for merc and :D

[solid stirrup]

oh also swapn shemira and scarlett positioning

or whatever i said to put instead of scarlett

[raven egret]

Yea I’m getting wrecked hard

[solid stirrup]

ye the fawkes stages r fkin annoying, could try eironn see if it interrupts b4 he cages

[raven egret]

I’ll give it a go

[native wave]

Eironn is slower than Nara?

[solid stirrup]

is it

[native wave]

Mine is, even with better gear

[solid mica]

@solid stirrup got it ty bro but should i didnt use sherima

[solid stirrup]

nur should i didnt use sherima-- what r u saying

[solid mica]

Ok

[solid stirrup]

like are u not supposed to use shemira? or did u pass the stage without using shemira

[solid mica]

I want to switch to paimon but i didnt got lucky

whiteout

[pale kettle]

Yes finallyyy yessss

[solid stirrup]

ok yes so what i would do is stop leveling shemira, its fine to use her for now i guess since its already L+ but like that L copy of shemira is a mistake

[solid stirrup]

did u have oden tp thingy onto thoran stun?

[pale kettle]

Oden portal then oden vs ira going on

[solid mica]

Ye i Know but i was really new i didnt Know what i did

[raven egret]

Gotta wait for a merc. Not gonna happen

[solid stirrup]

its probably fine but like whatever u do dont make shemira M

[pale kettle]

Then some stuff happened and thoran came back alive stunning someone and then alna ults twice and daimon popped off

[native wave]

Nice

[pale kettle]

The game going into maintenance in 40 mins

[native wave]

Yikes

[swift linden]

BRO IF I FIGHT ANOTHER TASI IMA KMS SHE JUST STOPS DAMION AND I DONT GOT MORE HEROS THAT DO DMG

[pale kettle]

Lmao

[native wave]

Hook her xd

[solid stirrup]

just add like ferael and pray it interrupts it

[swift linden]

Wish I could

[pale kettle]

Bet it in RNG

[swift linden]

Don’t got him ether

[pale kettle]

What chapter u at?

[solid stirrup]

ok then just fuck around and move ur shit and hope it doesnt banish him

[swift linden]

24

Rng gave me shermia

[solid stirrup]

sometimes daimon in different positions doesnt get banished idk why it just happens

[pale kettle]

How do u not have a ferael at 24...isn't it like wishlist stuff

[swift linden]

I got a epic of him

[pale kettle]

Ohh okay

[swift linden]

That’s all rng wrote for me

[native wave]

Epic is more than enough

[solid stirrup]

but like also idfk what to tell u man i dont even know what lvl ur shit is

[swift linden]

I know the mistakes are many but this is my first play through and I joined the discord 3 weeks ago

[solid stirrup]

also what r u using rn

[swift linden]

Random stuff lemme fix it and I’ll send ss

[native wave]

Shemira A damn

[solid stirrup]

and what the fuck does the stage even have\

[solid stirrup]

o fawkes tasi stage lmfao gl

[swift linden]

Not gonna lie I was just complaining in here and y’all started giving advice so I don’t have to ss ready Lmao

Yeah I feel many pains rn

[native wave]

Damn horror

[pale kettle]

Good luck

[swift linden]

And I’m a bit under leveled

[solid stirrup]

but uh what u could try is swap lyca for brutus and drop brutus for uh maybe shemira?

[native wave]

What do I do?

[solid stirrup]

i dont know how much shemira does tbh

[swift linden]

She’s ass

[solid stirrup]

oh even at A 3 stars?

[swift linden]

Biggest mistake

[native wave]

RIP

[solid stirrup]

swap thoran brutus put oden for silas @native wave

[swift linden]

Ima have to just mess around with every hero I got tonight I guess

May the rng gods be in your favors

[native wave]

Doesn't work

[solid stirrup]

i mean either way i'd drop brutus, you could try shemira? it might work idk

[swift linden]

I’ll try

[solid stirrup]

whats happening in fight is thoran stunning all or are they walking past him

[native wave]

Walking past

[solid stirrup]

ok what if u swapped brutus and thoran again

like back to how it was b4

[native wave]

Same oof

[solid stirrup]

ok maybe ferael instead of silas

im just realizing that i told u to put oden in for silas when oden was already in

[native wave]

I just swapped them

[solid stirrup]

ya i think silas doesnt do much, ferael fear is better imo

[native wave]

Barely does much...

[solid stirrup]

how many times have u tried it

[native wave]

A few dozen

Not 1 dead on the enemy team

[solid stirrup]

idk man does pop do anything

[native wave]

Nope

Instant death

[solid stirrup]

i mean if u want u can add me and i think u can see replay of what i did maybe its helpful or maybe i cheated and used merc

[native wave]

Lol Sure

[solid stirrup]

137122952

[native wave]

Sent, list full

[solid stirrup]

right let me delete someone

[solid stirrup]

ok send now\

[native wave]

I did

[solid stirrup]

ok u migth b able to check what i did now

not sure how the thing works tbh

[native wave]

Nope

We're not in the same server...

[solid stirrup]

does it have to b same server?

[native wave]

Yeah

[solid stirrup]

i can see other people's replays who arent same server as me

[native wave]

It's prob the most recent ones

Ok this is fucking weird...

[solid stirrup]

weird i added natsu and i think he said he could see my replays

[native wave]

I can see your 16-32 and above replay, but not 16-32 and below

[solid stirrup]

idk rip

[pale kettle]

:(

[fathom marlin]

How should I go about adjusting this to get thru ch6

Aside from I guess boosting daimon to 81 and having him top backside?

[amber beacon]

I uploaded my lineup on this on the helper. Let me download a copy

@native wave here's what I used. Hope it helps

[amber beacon]

Yeah, but I've had more success on Thoran cos I know how to use him more than Brutus. I'll have to get the hang of using Brutus now.

[pale kettle]

Help

[finite tapir]

do u have brutus

[pale kettle]

I will after this chapter

[solid stirrup]

What if u do rowan middle

[finite tapir]

cant see all options from that screen shot. one thing i would suggest is making thoran the lowest defense person on the team by removing gear if needed and putting in lyca instead of rowan

silvina goes for lowest defense member if no mages present

also alna is very useless without investment so putting in any regular tank would be better

[pale kettle]

I don't have another tank

[solid stirrup]

honestly drop rowan for oden might work

[finite tapir]

u dont have hogan/golus? who is on your RC then?

[pale kettle]

I fed all of them

[finite tapir]

oden just dies to silvina one shot

[pale kettle]

Because I was told too*

[solid stirrup]

maybe, rng can help w dodges

[finite tapir]

lyca front line instead of alna, ferael instead of rowan, make sure thoran has the lowest defense on your teamn

[solid stirrup]

@pale kettle can u see my clear for that stage btw just wondering

[pale kettle]

No...

Also the previous comp did not work

[finite tapir]

if what i suggested doesnt clear then u might just be a bit under-leveled for that stage, just need to grind hero xp

[pale kettle]

:o

[finite tapir]

or roll a brutus/ regular talene. they do very nice things

[solid stirrup]

nah u should b able to pass

have u tried ferael or oden

[pale kettle]

Yeah even I think level isn't an issue I come so close to winning

I will take a break and come back again

[pale kettle]

Help please, they all dying lmao, tried different positions but didnt work and eirron dies after like 5s

[pale kettle]

Umm nara doesn't play in the front

Swap nara and the celestial

Maybe try removing Rosaline and play silvina

[pale kettle]

Halp please

[silk ibex]

Nara hooking Brutus FL is about as useless as a screen door on a submarine.

[pale kettle]

Pls help :(

[silk ibex]

I told you to keep Daimon as far away as possible from Grez lol

He guts Daimon like a fish

[pale kettle]

Its a RANDOM formation I am tired I am always so close....so close

What should I change :(

[silk ibex]

You probably don't have enough CC since Nara's only dedicated to locking down Isabelle, you need to snowball Daimon before Grez hits him too much

[pale kettle]

Snowball?

Nvm

[hoary granite]

Can someone help me out with this stage

It’s usually the assassins left standing

[silk ibex]

Replace Morrow with Arden and make sure Rowan has the lowest Defense

[hoary granite]

I got dog washed still

[silk ibex]

Any variation on retry spam?

[hoary granite]

No but I did it with this

[late crest]

is daimon a carry or a tank?

[hoary granite]

I also just put in hogan instead of Brutus and this man is GOATED

[hoary granite]

I think carry iirc

[drifting valley]

Carry. Can substitute for a front-line tank if needed, but is usually better suited for either side on the backline.

[late crest]

Ive got Talene, Daimon, Nogg, Scarlet and Rowan so far, is it good?

[drifting valley]

Awesome

[late crest]

do you think they will work with eachother?

Im literally focused on a tierlist rn and wondering if my elite heroes are even good to be used

[drifting valley]

Well that’s an excellent lineup for early-game, however, read the pins if you haven’t already.

[late crest]

And the guide said osmething about 3 supports and 2 dps/tank

[drifting valley]

Also, tierlists? Wdym. Reddit tierlist?

[late crest]

ye, the newest one

Do you think ferael is better than Nogg?

[hoary granite]

The fodder heroes are really good

[drifting valley]

i- I wouldn’t necessarily recommend following a reddit tierlist.

[hoary granite]

Especially hogan and mirael imo

[late crest]

Well I dont really know this game so I just follow a tierlist

[drifting valley]

Also Zodiac is right. Take Mirael to L+ and she’ll carry you a few chapters.

Rowan is a very good support hero. He supplies energy while CC’ing at the same time.

Rowan can fit about any spot backline, but should be switched around depending what heroes you use.

[hoary granite]

And later on he can heal too right?

[drifting valley]

He actually heals really early on. He unlocks his Healthy Supplies skill at level 41.

[late crest]

which of these heroes should I use?

[drifting valley]

Okay, first. Read the pins pls-

[hoary granite]

Oof

[late crest]

what pins?

[late crest]

OOF? oh no

[drifting valley]

Also, you can use most of them and switch around. However, you only want 5 heroes you actually level and have the rest in resonating crystal.

[hoary granite]

In questions and you won’t be able to ascend gwyn for a while right Zach?

Idk if I remember doing ascensions right

[drifting valley]

You need 4 E+ of her to take her to ascended, not including the fodder heroes you feed to her.

[pale kettle]

oh... so where shld i put her lol

[drifting valley]

So you’ll need to pull 8 copies of Gwyn before you can ascend her.

[silk ibex]

Your stage doesn't need Nara unless the deciding factor is Ankhira's CC, Nara is a flex pick.

[pale kettle]

oh, what shld i replace her with?

depending on the order 3-4 are left alive, occasionally 2

[hoary granite]

Is talene naturally a good

Gold

[drifting valley]

did I give some good advice?

[silk ibex]

You definitely need more CC. Unlucky with Ascending Arden?

[silk ibex]

Gonna scroll up in a bit, one sec

[pale kettle]

still blue :(

its at lvl97 tho as fodder and i dont have another one to fodder 🥲

[silk ibex]

Are you not doing pulls or are you Smart-Ascending something

[pale kettle]

smart ascending

[drifting valley]

nooo do NOT do that. Smart Ascending is hardly smart.

[pale kettle]

oh...

welp ill rmb that next time

at this point is it wiser to restart lol, just 2 days in

[drifting valley]

Lmao not really. You don’t have to restart over this.

[pale kettle]

oh ok lol

[drifting valley]

Don’t worry dude. I screwed up harder than you and was told to reset.

[silk ibex]

Smart Ascend probably fed your Ardens to a worse Wilder fodder

[drifting valley]

I literally didn’t and worked my way away from my mistakes. And Cat is right.

It’s painful

[pale kettle]

oh i see, yep it feels painful lol

[silk ibex]

First time I saw Smart Ascend's suggestions I immediately thought "More like Dumb Ascend"

[tight ruin]

How do you beat teams with fawkes or tasi when your entire lineup is based off daimon stall

[pale kettle]

guess ill stick around and wait for the xp to raise up my char levels

[silk ibex]

Lots of RNG involved. You need to CC them with someone with AoE CC like Ferael before they can do their thing

[drifting valley]

Hold on.

[pale kettle]

mm?

[tight ruin]

Ooo, i should ascend my farael then. Is he good in daimon comp? Or is something like e talene still better

[drifting valley]

Pause already man lmao. You should add friends. You can merc a strong Lucretia from someone and blaze through Arcane Labyrinth most of the time.

[silk ibex]

Follow advice in #classic-questions, Reddit can sometimes be questionable. If you insist on using Reddit ask here if you're not sure if it's legit

[drifting valley]

Just don’t waste your time getting exp lol

[silk ibex]

Yeh it's good

[pale kettle]

i have friends xD(around 30 bc i think i spammed lol), ill scroll around for lucretia tho thanks

[drifting valley]

[drifting valley]

unadd anyone that hasn’t gifted you hearts in like 5 days

unless they’re active and have good mercs

[pale kettle]

oh okay will do, just my second day of playing tho lol

[drifting valley]

Lol

[silk ibex]

Join a guild, you get way more Merc options

[silk ibex]

Dw you'll go far as long as you stick around here lol

Remember that retry spam is a thing, in case you flood this channel with every stage after trying less than 10 times lol

[keen abyss]

Help pleaseeee

[pale kettle]

yep in gacha slaves cuz new player

Dw you'll go far as long as you stick around here lol
will do thanks

[drifting valley]

Yikes, double Lucius. First off, you’ll want some CC in the backline to hopefully stall them. Ofc we’ll need good damage dealers, so Daimon will ofc be in there hopefully. You should definitely throw Eironn in and Skriath, experiment and see who you can pull and destroy with AOE, sort of like a Thoran cheese.

[silk ibex]

Try

LDV

Brutus
Oden
Rowan
Daimon

[drifting valley]

that works too

[silk ibex]

I literally scrolled down to see how I cleared it

Replaced my Ferael cause I know he has LDV

[drifting valley]

IDK LMAO

I was just trying to go in it at a tactical angle where they’ll learn bc I am dumb

[silk ibex]

I recognize him and he has the Heroes to go really far, he pretty much has my lineup except he's using LDV instead of Ferael

[drifting valley]

def

[silk ibex]

I started when LDV exchange was a thing and I didn't know he was limited so I spent my resources on Ainz Garrison

[drifting valley]

💀 lets chill and try not to have a convo in here, we’ll get in trouble

[harsh urchin]

anyone know what might work?

[silk ibex]

Golus instead of Hogan, Arden instead of Nara, you don't need to hook Saveas. I'm assuming you don't have Rowan yet?

[harsh urchin]

i dont

[harsh urchin]

nah doesnt work

[silk ibex]

Retry spam a few times, swap positions?

[harsh urchin]

yh i got it now i swapped arden with daimon and put in wu kong for lyca and thoran for golus

[silk ibex]

Huh, only time I've seen Wukong work outside Lv100 lol

[harsh urchin]

yep

just tried something random i thought his monkeys might help

[silk ibex]

This is above my paygrade lol

[fiery wing]

did u tried my clear?

oh no arthur? how

did you skipped him or smth

203 is easy tho try to get it asap

what current state is ur alna rn?

alna furn at?

[pale kettle]

Help 🥺

[fiery wing]

dont put daimon in from of grez he will just steal your attack

[pale kettle]

Oden for a reason he teleports grez

That backline is too cancer

:(

Grez gets teleported in this position

[silk ibex]

Laughs in Tasi, Fawkes and Raine

[pale kettle]

[keen abyss]

It worked thanks

[silk ibex]

np

[pale kettle]

I still couldnt clear mine

[silk ibex]

@pale kettle Do you hate using Arden lol

[pale kettle]

Yes

[silk ibex]

Why

[pale kettle]

He just breaks my team...no one survives if he is playing

I tried Arden here as well no one survived

Dude is cursed

[late blaze]

help

[haughty flax]

I'm a new player with all these elites and I don't know what team I should build with them

[pale kettle]

Read pins in #classic-questions also u r levelling them up wrong

[harsh urchin]

it wont matter for now because he's nowhere near the level cap

anyone know what might work?

[pale kettle]

Box?

[weary ether]

could somebody please help me with this one 😭

[pale kettle]

Nara on isabelle
Try daimon frontline once instead of hogan and switch daimon and thoran positions

[harsh urchin]

well that worked

[pale kettle]

Nice nice

[fiery wing]

laughs at rosa,rowan,flora

[harsh urchin]

can anyone help?

[tight trout]

Try to start using other heroes except for the 3 legendaries and try upgrading other elite heroes cause this 3 heroes won’t get that far for much longer

Those

[pale kettle]

Also Arden isn't supposed to be in the frontlines

[harsh urchin]

he can be used there tho

[pale kettle]

Put daimon in front of vedan once and use Silas instead of arden

Also thoran instead of golus

[harsh urchin]

im not using golus?

[pale kettle]

I mean hogan

Ur heroes are higher level then mine tf...

[harsh urchin]

daimon instantly dies

[pale kettle]

Use thoran and wukong front drop daimon

[harsh urchin]

wukong?

[pale kettle]

I haven't tried wukong at above 100 so not entirely sure (orange monke)

[harsh urchin]

why wukong lol

nah doesnt work

[pale kettle]

Show chart

[harsh urchin]

wdym

[pale kettle]

After the battle bottom right there is a chart showing info

[pale kettle]

Pull the healing guy with nara

[harsh urchin]

doesnt work

[pale kettle]

Pull for the wizard I guess or just wait for someone else to reply there are far better people then me here lol

[harsh urchin]

yeah thats not working either

[weary ether]

could someone please help me 😭

[harsh urchin]

can someone help me

[late blaze]

thoran
lyca
daimon
mirael
arden / nara

[harsh urchin]

thoran backline?

[late blaze]

front

[harsh urchin]

so this?

[late blaze]

ye

[harsh urchin]

nah they get slammed

[late blaze]

sad

[pale kettle]

Dying dying dead :( help please make me a comp

[silk ibex]

Do you retry-spam your stages

[silk ibex]

Arden works better than Ferael early on. Also use Golus instead of Hogan, remember to switch gear. Swap Daimon with Lyca

[harsh urchin]

yeah i do but not if theyre dead in 2 seconds

[silk ibex]

There is variation. Be patient

[pale kettle]

Any suggestions?

[native wave]

Make them all Lv. 140

[harsh urchin]

there really is just no variation in this one

[silk ibex]

Oh, you're at the "310 attempt" stage I was at

Swap Thoran and Alna

[native wave]

310 attempt??
I beat that in a try

[pale kettle]

....

Not working :(

[native wave]

I used pop aoe stun to stun Isabella and Mirael

[pale kettle]

Yeah can't do that

[native wave]

Eironn?

[pale kettle]

Nope

[native wave]

If you had Arden Lv. 141 he could root 3

Who's the dps?

[pale kettle]

One sec

[dusty narwhal]

Hello I’m kinda stuck hear any help ?

[autumn orbit]

Suggestions?

This channel is so dead without @silk ibex lmao

[pale kettle]

Use silvina to take out one of the belindas

[autumn orbit]

Tried that but she just doesn’t do enough dmg and gets killed very quick

[pale kettle]

Use oden portal so Brutus goes to thoran then maybe use Mirael at top to take out sauveus

[autumn orbit]

Okay I’ll try that

That worked thanks a lot

[pale kettle]

Nice

[silk ibex]

It's cause I'm pushing my own campaign lmao

[pale kettle]

@silk ibex how did u beat 14-31?

[silk ibex]

Ah, you're still stuck on the 320 attempts stage

One sec, lil busy

[marble hawk]

Are these Duras correct? Legends Arena.

[earnest plume]

Any ideas? Giving me hell, this stage is.

[weary ether]

okay so like, im not the best at giving advice in team comps but what abt u use that athalia against mehira, then brutus against kaz, instead of anoki rowan so it would be like this:

Thesku
-------Brutus
Rowan
-------Antandra
Athalia

idk if it'll help bc im not the best at this but hope it helpss

[safe hazel]

you have ainz comp built?

[earnest plume]

I have an Ainz counter comp. 😉 I must prove there is a foolproof Ainz counter.

[supple mantle]

whats ur mauler tower stage? XD

[earnest plume]

Only 386 bc I've been lazy 😉.

I'm a mauler focus hahaha.

[supple mantle]

i can see that xd

[silk ibex]

[shadow hound]

Been struggling to get through campaign for a bit but hit a roadblock in 11-22, Resonating Crystal is 120, will post boxes in a second

[safe hazel]

i'm pretty sure burst or ainz treznor are the counters

[sacred pivot]

Can I do better?

[silk ibex]

Do you have Cecilia? If not try Mortas instead of Daimon?

[sacred pivot]

thanks i did better

[true forum]

Any ideas for a team?

[autumn orbit]

Can’t figure this one out

@true forum I’m sorry bro.. I would read the pins in #classic-questions you really shouldn’t ascend 4 ability heroes to L without having the copies for L+

I’m no expert as you can see from my box but I know all the rlly good players say that’s a huge mistake

[harsh urchin]

youre leveling wrong, you should not have any legendaries if you cant upgrade them to L+. You might get stuck at lvl 140 for a long time

[pale kettle]

how do i win this bru

[shadow hound]

what would you recommend i do for now?

[autumn orbit]

@pale kettle I got this advice on my other acc when I was trying to use talene if you’re not spending a lot of money it’s not worth investing in talene cause she’s so rare and I’m assuming you only have her L cause she’s 40 levels down compared to the rest of ur team

[pale kettle]

oh this talene came for free in tavern >.>

came legendary + but what i replace her for

i need to pass this 18-40

[mighty cove]

Help!!

[autumn orbit]

I’m not that experienced so I’m not sure what to replace it for but it’s very unlikely you’ll get enough copies of talene to use her

[wind thunder]

What should i use as my main lineup?

[native wave]

Safiya L?? You're wasting resources

[wind thunder]

After i used all of the codes she was the only one i could get legendary on

[native wave]

And you didn't read the guide...

[silk ibex]

Read the pinned beginner's guide in #classic-questions, you already messed up get wasting resources Ascending Safiya to L

[autumn orbit]

This got buried but does anyone have ideas?

[harsh urchin]

#classic-questions pins

[shadow hound]

ah right, thanks

[harsh urchin]

anyone know what will get me above 35.1M damage lol

[noble marten]

Can someone help me pls

[drifting valley]

Why do you have so many Legendary tier heroes? (Talene is different but LMAO)

[noble marten]

You don’t want to see the full collection

[silk ibex]

I'm guessing from that statement you're either fully aware you messed up or are a big spender

[noble marten]

I messed up big early game

[safe hazel]

maybe swap brutus and thoran there and rng it

you should be able to beat that easily or just swap rosa out for ferael/rowan

[safe hazel]

wow the thing is a lot of those heroes aren't really worth ascending early as well

get daimon to M+20 when you can and save your red emblem chests

taking your L heroes to L+ is fine but don't waste L+ fodders to take them to M for now*

[silk ibex]

His Daimon's M, doesn't look like he spent many Emblems on SI,
@noble marten Do you have enough for Daimon's SI20

[noble marten]

Nope

I don’t have a lot of gold emblems

[silk ibex]

Rip. You're at Ch22 tho, maybe occasionally buy them from Store? Climb Faction Towers?

[noble marten]

Kk

[safe hazel]

refresh store twice daily and only buy gold emblems ignore the purple ones don't go lower than 20M gold i'd say tho

[fervent compass]

Rip i need help again. This team keeps losing. Any tips? Recommendations for team comps?

[dull flame]

Yeah. Read the guides. 95% of questions asked by beginners are answered on the guides in #classic-questions and on the subreddit. Don't make legendaries, set your wishlist properly cause it's not right now, and build daimon

[fervent compass]

Hmm

[warm bison]

Any suggestion for challenger tournament comps?

[naive remnant]

Any suggestions for winning this?

Bo box: https://imgur.com/a/bzjyCZ2

[pale kettle]

Can anyone help me on this stage? I have been stuck for like 4 days idk if my formation is bad or if I have bad hero's any suggestions would be appreciated.

[faint current]

You have a bunch of heroes stuck at m+. From now on don’t ascend 4-skill heroes past E+ unless you have 8 elite copies of them (or equivalent)

[pale kettle]

thanks for the advise

[faint current]

Sure thing. Your next goal is 5 white border heroes which opens up a lot of content

[pale kettle]

Ah okay, even tho he's blue?

[silk ibex]

Ferael needs levels more than Arden does

[pale kettle]

oh ic, u mean ferael only works at higher lvls while arden works better at lower?

[silk ibex]

Kinda, I heard Ferael really needs levels

[pale kettle]

ic, thank u

[broken igloo]

Should I swap someone out?

[silk ibex]

Stop Ascending Heroes past L, read the pinned beginner's guide in #classic-questions

[orchid delta]

Any help?

Okay, thanks

What about artifacts?

Okay

[silk ibex]

@orchid delta Keep Estrilda and Grezhul away from Daimon, they're both bad for him

Try to put Brutus between Daimon and Grezhul and keep Daimon away from Estrilda's opening charge

[broken igloo]

Should I start leveling someone else up and using them? If so, who (preferably someone I already have)

Alright. Thanks

[fiery wing]

fereal

thoran
daimon
brutus
nara

needs rng but it will work

[orchid delta]

Thanks, the previous guy's tips worked already

[amber beacon]

Hey guys. Looking for some other comps to try for this:

[solid stirrup]

could try thoran and brutus drop lyca

also drop ferael and put nara where oden is

[pale kettle]

Help :(

[slim portal]

Put daimon behind, do you have Brutus?

[pale kettle]

I have gorvo no Brutus :(

[arctic laurel]

Can I get a soren team please?

I have a saurus mercd if it matters, same for lucy

[slim portal]

Borrow a 309 saurus from friend + Rosaline follows saurus
Frontline: Saurus + Cecilia
Backline: Rosaline + Rowan + Daimon

Red diamond 9 = 9 furniture

[devout cliff]

Do I just send in the merc or is there hope, shemira and safiya are just nuking me

nvm I already merced apparently at the start of the week

[pale kettle]

build some carry for mauler. tidus/kren/safiya.

[half goblet]

Excuse the fodder I'm saving, does it look like I'm prioritizing the right heroes for what I have? I am regretting investing in Respen but since I just acquired Scarlet and Mishka I'm considering them.

[solid stirrup]

shemira sucks

Read the pinned beginner guides in #classic-questions

[native wave]

No need to regret... you can merely reset her

[pale kettle]

Help :(

[hoary granite]

I need help beating this stage

[pale kettle]

Nara on isabelle

Brutus infront of vedan

Who is ur carry.....

[solid stirrup]

oden for lyca?

[pale kettle]

No use :(

[native wave]

Hey! it's me again

[native wave]

Damage report?

[solid stirrup]

but have daimon top and oden middle

[native wave]

Try this, pretty similar

[pale kettle]

No PoP :(

[native wave]

Instead of pop do Alna

Daimon stalls the upper half with Thoran, while bottom half just ends the dps 👌🏻

[pale kettle]

Like this?

[native wave]

Perfect 👌🏻

[pale kettle]

:o

[native wave]

Retry 5 times at least

Mine had Kaz instead of Mirael, Kaz is more dodgy

[pale kettle]

Not working :(

[native wave]

Isebella ults?

I'm almost at ch. 17 with that comp :x

[pale kettle]

Yes :|

[native wave]

Uh oh

Swap Alna and Daimon

[pale kettle]

No luck

If daimon had ulted twice it might have been possible

[native wave]

Right what artifacts on which units?

Daimon should have call

[pale kettle]

Yes that is correct

[native wave]

Wha... Why are they wearing those?

Give Thoran Drape, Alna Grace, Daimon Call, Nara Grace

[pale kettle]

:o

[native wave]

Won?

[pale kettle]

Did not try

[native wave]

Lol

[pale kettle]

:| gonna make the changes

[native wave]

Omg 16-40, nightmare for GB 😱

[silent epoch]

Any other units that can stun Eironn here consistently?

This is the only fight im having trouble

[native wave]

PoP behind Estrilda?

[drowsy gazelle]

oden also can do it btw. i just use estrilda since its easier for me personally

[pale kettle]

Not working :(

[silent epoch]

Thanks Q. I think I'll stick with Estrilda. I gave my Oden gear on the other fight lol.

Congrats on clearing 37-44 btw :)

[drowsy gazelle]

thx, im stuck at 48 tho, need khaz

[pale kettle]

Please give suggestions for my comp as well :(

[native wave]

Woohoo ch. 17

Isabella still ults?

[drowsy gazelle]

im not really that good in early game advices now since ive detached from it for almost 2 year now, so i cant help you sorry

[silent epoch]

Show the stage

[drowsy gazelle]

but general advice i can give is, try not to have daimon in the way of estrilda's charge. interrupting daimon make him harder to ult

[drowsy gazelle]

another thing is, can alna even use her immune? if she is interrupted by grezhul/estrilda her immune will not proc

[pale kettle]

Second comp with slightly better results

[silent epoch]

Was about to ask for Brutus. Sadly you don't have him

[pale kettle]

Yeah she could she just got hit once in the beginning but then immunity sets in

[pale kettle]

I can get him after this chapter :(

Some of the unused heroes

[silent epoch]

Like Q said, Daimon should be placed away from Estrilda. You want him protected from CC at times

[pale kettle]

Isabelle doesent die though:(

[silent epoch]

Continue retrying this party. What's Daimons SI level?

[pale kettle]

No luck :( SI is plus 8

[native wave]

Can't get him to 10?

[pale kettle]

No too broke

[silent epoch]

Just keep trying since that is your best lineup for that match. You can change between Silas and Ferael.

Both of them works. You just need a little RNG

[pale kettle]

Okay :(

[native wave]

Well Idk if this was a bad decision making or not, but I bought emblems from the event to rush him to si 10 at ch. 13

[pale kettle]

I should have done that red chests are useless rn :(

[native wave]

Oh you already bought red chests?

[pale kettle]

Yes

[native wave]

RIP

[pale kettle]

That's what the guide said to do

[silent epoch]

Red chests are the best thing you can buy on your chapters

[native wave]

I also bought emblems for + 11 ~ 20 at ch. 14

He's currently si 20

[pale kettle]

I should have gone emblems

[native wave]

Worth it imo, he can single handedly clear ch. 16, with some support and gear

[drowsy gazelle]

ah btw, for 37-40. the r4 isnt even the highest rng. the highest goddamn rng round is the r3 charm, ive spent like 1-2 hours on that stage even though other stage only took like 5-10 minutes

just a heads up. you better off do 37-40-3 charm first if anything

[pale kettle]

Too bad now I have nothing :(

[silent epoch]

Weird since I cleared it consistently when setting up. I'll try doing it first once I get home lol. Thanks for the heads-up.

[silent epoch]

Sometimes you just have to wait a bit. This is an idle game for a reason. You did right by buying reds over the emblems. Trust the guide makers.

If you can't clear it right now, maybe you can tomorrow when you claim your afk and level up

[pale kettle]

requires 3 wilders...

[silent epoch]

Just wait it out a bit. You'll be fine. There's no harm in spamming retry btw.

[silent epoch]

This is peaks of time right? Yup. You need wilders there for them to let you pass

[pale kettle]

yep

[silent moss]

mercenary a good wilder then just put in any other ones and talene or daimon

[pale kettle]

which one would u reccomend?

[silent epoch]

Merc a good Eironn to pull the Kaz's and Lyca.

[silent moss]

^

[pale kettle]

ah ok ty

[naive kayak]

Getting destroyed any suggestions on lineups

[woven mason]

Maybe switch Thoran with Lucius?

[silent epoch]

Talene on front

[naive kayak]

Still the same

[naive kayak]

they get wiped out before she can respawn

[silent epoch]

Show your hero box.

[naive kayak]

whats that like her gear?

[silent epoch]

I mean. Can you take a screenshot of your current hero roster. Let's try to find a solution :)

[naive kayak]

I can resonate one more hero

[silent epoch]

Try
Brutus Hogan
Talene Rowan Daimon

If it's not working, either change Daimon with Arden or Shemira

[naive kayak]

slightly better than before with rng involved but still not close

i take that back i did it lol ty!

[silent epoch]

[supple mantle]

Can u not exchange ldv with something ?

And maybe 9f nemora works for eironn? Not sure about that tho

[ebon hazel]

Use pop

[pale kettle]

I don't have enough...also I am saving for baba yaga

[blissful mist]

Id try thoran daimon oden pipa nara

[pale kettle]

So I put pipa in rc?

[blissful mist]

Yea I quite like her for early

[pale kettle]

Okay

[blissful mist]

Or u can try with lyca instead of pipa

[pale kettle]

Lyca did not work

[pine trail]

I'm dying with this lineup, these are spare characters that could replace current ones if need be.

[harsh urchin]

what would make it?

[pale kettle]

You're low enough that even at elite rowan is quite strong imo (easily one of the best heroes in the game)

[harsh urchin]

why do you have levels in so many heroes?

[pine trail]

I like to try different ones out

[harsh urchin]

u cant try them out when theyre level 10

go to #classic-questions and check the pins and follow the beginners guide trust its way better than what youre doing right now

[keen abyss]

Help pleaseee

[pale kettle]

me die, comp ideas?

[pale kettle]

Silvina will melt ur Arden lol

Use talene at the back instead of Arden I guess

[devout charm]

Hi!
Sorry for bothering you all but i am a new player who started 3 days ago the game but i still don't know how to make a proper team

Here is my line up atm

[grand perch]

Hello @prisma needle,

Please check out the pinned messages/guides in the #classic-questions and #lineup-help channels.

[prisma needle]

@devout charm Hey :) I'm a new player myself. Have you checked the pinned guides in the questions channel? There's some handy stuff in there on what heroes to use for early game campaign and the best levelling routes etc.

The basic idea from the guide is one tank, one carry, three supports. It gives suggestions as to which heroes can fill each role

[hoary granite]

Mira

[pale kettle]

ty

help dying dying dead again, team comp ideas?

i regretably do not for both

[orchid delta]

Any tips here? Tasi stuns Daimon and it's game over

okay, I will try that, thanks

[pale kettle]

I figured most of it out but I guess I am missing something

the estrilda is gone because of oden

Big brain time

[mossy galleon]

Can someone help please

[pale kettle]

Yeah but there are exceptions sometimes

Alna won't work in this atleast not infront of estrilda

is there a cd for using the merc system? e.g. u can only use the merc(not dimensional merc) every 3 days?

ah ok thanks

Dude couldn't even link anyone

He died the moment he walked in lol

Thank you @pale kettle I was playing daimon wrong Finally cleared it

No really instead of Larson I played lyca and it worked thank you :)

[versed crow]

What i should change or upgrade in my team

[pale kettle]

Level them up right I suppose

[versed crow]

Is this a good team or i need more hero's to creat stronger team

[pale kettle]

Well having more heroes is always a good thing and also gaining fodder

U will be changing ur team often cuz there is no 'one' comp which functions the entire game

[versed crow]

Ok thx

[mossy galleon]

@pale kettle ya meant me?

[gritty moon]

Struggling against this, my backline gets destroyed by the Khasos and Morvus. Any recommendations on what to use and anything to focus on developing to push through to chapter 12?

[solid stirrup]

Use daimon instead of nara

[pale kettle]

U have a mythic already ._.

[gritty moon]

I'm building towards the Alna setup as I drew it in my initial pulls but it's too weak atm. Will try Daimon

[pale kettle]

Any suggestions

[solid stirrup]

Ferael instead of lyca maybe

[solid stirrup]

Could also drop rowan for oden maybe, not sure if the cart helps much without SI

[pale kettle]

Umm oden just dies cuz of silvina

[solid stirrup]

Good point

my oden dodges a shit ton so idk maybe yours will ?

[pale kettle]

Hehe no he just died five times

[prisma needle]

Hey guys :) new player here, currently on Ch. 9. I have 4 spots on my crystal and wondering what I should put on them. Atm the team I'm using is Hogan/Daimon/Lyca/Silas/Tasi. Any recommendations?

[grand perch]

Hello @prisma needle,

Please check out the pinned messages/guides in the #classic-questions and #lineup-help channels.

[lost night]

Build lineup

[zinc island]

Crying and sobbing of this whole chapter and level.

[gritty moon]

Suggestions, tried with Daimon already.

Have tried to get a merc hired in to boost through it but waiting on that for now

[zinc island]

I can’t help I’m a whole chapter under but Daimon is falling off for me rn.

[gritty moon]

Desira got me through it. Extra healing kept me alive

[pale kettle]

Help :(

[silk ibex]

There's no set lineup that will clear all the stages, I can't tell if your English isn't good or if you're being rude

[zinc island]

You think you could help again even after my fodder attempts.

I tried to use mirael, golus, grez, Silas, and Daimon.

[lost night]

I'm sorry, I just know English 50/50

[zinc island]

It wasn’t the best team but for the most part most enemies were gone.

[pale kettle]

Go Brutus infront of golus and grez in the front daimon in the center lyca and Silas/tasi in the back

[zinc island]

Kk

[silk ibex]

Yeah, repeatedly spamming the channel asking for a lineup isn't the best way to go about it. There's not a set lineup that can clear every stage

[royal stag]

Tasi can

[lost night]

Okay

[silk ibex]

When you need help post the stage you're stuck at and your box

[silk ibex]

Go to hell lmao

[pale kettle]

Any suggestions

[royal stag]

🤣

[pale kettle]

😭 dying can someone help me please?

U don't really have anything for silvina right....

[pale kettle]

yeah lol...

I feel like going daimon infront of vedan could be a choice since he gets really annoying in his bat form

U need to kill him quick

[silk ibex]

Tasi/Nara

Lyca
Oden
Brutus
Daimon