lineup-help

[silk ibex]

Do you know how Ascension works?

[pale kettle]

No

[silk ibex]

Silvina needs another E copy of herself to get to E+

[sweet iris]

Okay I fixed my wish list who of these should I use

[hoary granite]

Can someone help me find the best current pve team I can do

[silk ibex]

You don't even have your heroes levelled properly, forget PvP

[hoary granite]

I meant pve my bad

[silk ibex]

Did you read the pinned guide? Your levels say otherwise

[silk ibex]

Pinned guide in #classic-questions, level the right Heroes first

[hoary granite]

The legend tier right?

[silk ibex]

@hoary granite Fodders, yes

[sweet iris]

I did but I don’t know what to use

Help?

[hoary granite]

I level them up even if they are blue right?

[silk ibex]

@sweet iris @hoary granite Are you sure you read this guide?:

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1xcT34gPd9WS8Ivb9kZGmAP6qnoIzFFUUmyNETq1J_kg/edit

[hoary granite]

Yeah the fodder heroes and All 6 of them

5 of them
Silvina and golds aren’t elite yet tho that’s my question

[silk ibex]

I'm not saying you can do it right now. I mean do everything you can to get more pulls and scrolls

You don't have the resources to get L+ Silvina yet but you need her

[hoary granite]

Alrighty

Yeah that’s why I was using the elite people cause I couldn’t get them to elite or legend

[silk ibex]

Because you fed 2 E+ fodders to Daimon to make him Legendary without having the fodder to get him to Mythic in one go

[hoary granite]

He’s a mercenary

[silk ibex]

Wait fuck which one's your box again

[hoary granite]

@silk ibex

[safe hazel]

look at beginner guide in #classic-questions

then ask here if you have any questions after reading the guide on pins

[hoary granite]

I leveled up the fodders and put the others on my resonance

[silk ibex]

Send box again if you already did that

[solemn narwhal]

Hi huys, need team for that stage

[silk ibex]

Remove Safiya Wukong Shemira and Lucius from RC, replace with Brutus and Tasi and leave the other 2 slots open for now

[hoary granite]

Alright

[hoary granite]

So would this be the new formation

[safe hazel]

swap tasi out then silas where tasi is and mirael back middle

[silk ibex]

Mirael mid back. You don't have a carry right now. Try to Ascend Golus to at least E if you can cause he's a better FL than Hogan

Arden or Ferael for CC. Tasi can stay if she works

You can use Rosaline early on if you want for a bit of energy boost

[hoary granite]

Alrighty

[hoary granite]

I will as soon as I get enough fodder

[leaden glacier]

Ainz comp

[wooden bison]

ive tried it like 1000x

[arctic laurel]

Soren line-up pls? Got Lucy mercd

[safe hazel]

daimon
>saurus
rowan
>rosa (following saurus)
lyca

[arctic laurel]

Which one is saurus again?

[safe hazel]

merc him

[arctic laurel]

Ah, it was weird that I couldn't find him, I just googled, thank

Sent request for merc ascended

[safe hazel]

yh dw about the damage you do rn it'll probably be >100M but once you get more levels and investments youll do more damage

[arctic laurel]

With what I've tried before I've done 25m lol, not sure if I can hit 100m

[safe hazel]

nah you will soon once you get mortas and twins

[sweet iris]

Okay I’m gonna level up the lower level ones but should I replace Shemira with morrow?

[clever patio]

anyone able to help me create campaign teams, 5 teams specifically? dm me i’ll send hero list 🙂

[safe hazel]

read beginner guide in #classic-questions don't make ascended tier heroes past E+ for now and level 5 fodder

[sweet iris]

Yeah I know by the time I read there guide I l already had Shemira at legendary

[sweet iris]

Also what do you mean level 5 fodder

[sweet iris]

Also I did read the guide that’s why I have desira eironn and morrow

[safe hazel]

level 5 Legendary tier heroes and put the Ascended tier heroes in the rc

[sweet iris]

What do you mean by level 5

[safe hazel]

you should only level 5 heroes

[sweet iris]

But why level the legendary and not the ascended

[safe hazel]

because L+ to M for an A tier hero takes an L+ fodder

so your goal is to make 5 L+ fodder then eventually feed them to A tier heroes

read pins in #classic-questions again since this is all explained

[half mural]

Yo

[sweet iris]

But why do you need to level the fodder?

[safe hazel]

because at e+ you are capped at 120

and you don't want to make ascended tier heroes L/L+ for now

L being the main issue for newbies but L+ is just as bad tbh (except for certain heroes)

[sweet iris]

Ok

[safe hazel]

level the fodder in the pins

as those are the most useful throughout the game the rest are trash or underpowered compared to the ones in the guide

[sacred pivot]

I’m stuck at this stage

[safe hazel]

daimon
>brutus
rowan
>lyca
ferael

[sacred pivot]

Rng is the worst I keep getting close at some@point and then damion dies

[silk ibex]

Welcome to AFK Arena

[sacred pivot]

Anything else I can do?

[silk ibex]

Switch Brutus and Lyca in Asta's comp. Try to use Oden and drop Estrilda in front of Brutus. Greztrilda comps are the worst for you right now. Keep both those Heroes as far as away as possible from your Daimon so he can snowball

[mossy galleon]

Shemira destroys my team.. Fawks coffins her but dies so fast

[sacred pivot]

Gotchu okie

[silk ibex]

Lyca has a "stall" at the beginning of the fight that puts her out of Estrilda's range, long enough for Oden to warp Estrilda away

[azure owl]

What team to use floor 400 kt

[kindred torrent]

I need a early game comp surrounding Daimon. I want to build a team that will be good for a while. I’m currently on stage/world 8. Any help?

[sacred pivot]

Send your box

[kindred torrent]

Sure

[safe hazel]

generally
daimon
>brutus
rowan
>lyca
cc/support

[kindred torrent]

I was just using random shit that seemed to work at the time. Don’t judge 😅

[kindred torrent]

Who’s a good cc/support

[safe hazel]

ferael ig

[kindred torrent]

Okay. Mind showing me who Rowan is 😂😂

[safe hazel]

LB healer

follow beginner guide pinned in #classic-questions if you haven't

[kindred torrent]

Does he have red hair

[safe hazel]

this guy @kindred torrent

[kindred torrent]

Yep, thanks.

[bronze flicker]

Anyone beaten this?

[kindred torrent]

Also, I’m currently just watching a bunch of yt and getting help from my friend who knows this stuff. Pretty sure I’m doing it right. Currently just trying to get my fodder to legendary+ or whatever they can go to and then put the other units in rc until I can no longer use the fodder. Then reset em and go from there, right?

[safe hazel]

dont watch yt it's useless

[kindred torrent]

I’m just watching it for entertainment while I grind 😂

[safe hazel]

literally pinned guide in #classic-questions and the people in there are only reliable sources of info tbh

oh ok that makes sense I did that too lol

[silk ibex]

Yeah, plot synopsis for early game basically. 5 fodders L+ Lv160, throw A-Tiers in RC and switch over when you have enough to start getting Mythic Tiers

[kindred torrent]

Ty :)

Is there any reason for me not to use copies of my A tiers on themselves?

I have like 3 Daimon atm

[silk ibex]

Auto-Ascend is fine always since it just compresses your Hero copies and requires no fodder

Avoid Smart Ascend and do the rest manually.

[kindred torrent]

Alright, thanks.

[silk ibex]

@kindred torrent I think this goes without saying since you know this much but don't Ascend Daimon to L or L+ unless you have the copies and fodder to get him to M

[kindred torrent]

Yeah, I already chose not to do that much 😂

I was just making epic+ of him so far

[silk ibex]

E+ is always fine

You mentioned you were at Ch8, even if you don't pull Daimon during the 4 chapters until Ch12, you get a Hero Choice Chest after clearing Ch12 and it's absolutely worth it to pick a 4th Daimon copy from it if you don't have M Daimon already by then

[kindred torrent]

Ah. Alright, thanks!

[digital skiff]

She's good and lvl someone else who's e+

[swift linden]

Any ideas to help with this stage don’t have high hopes though because there like 90 lvls over most heros lmao

[arctic laurel]

I could also use a hand here

[astral wagon]

Tried different arrangements but none worked

[bronze flicker]

Uhh why is oden frontline ever

[astral wagon]

He asked to be

I did pretty good with him in the front anyhow so i threw him in the mix

[arctic laurel]

He's masochistic

[astral wagon]

😩

[sweet iris]

I can’t find what fodder I’m supposed to level other than mirael and golus and hogan

[safe hazel]

Use a tier heroes as fillers until you pull them

Still keep them at e+ tho

[sweet iris]

But I don’t know which fodder to use

[safe hazel]

Oh silvina and Arden

[sweet iris]

Ok thanks

[safe hazel]

Np

[sweet iris]

Ok so like this

[safe hazel]

Yh that’s good

Buy Arthur from lab store not wu Kong btw

[sweet iris]

Ok thx

I actually would have got Shemira but thanks

[safe hazel]

Get only LDV from challenger store as well

And don’t buy elite shards from hero coins it is a waste

[sweet iris]

Wait what’s ldv

[safe hazel]

Leonardo Da Vinci

[sweet iris]

Oh ok

Well it’s gonna take a lot a lot of afking to get past this level in chapter 6

[safe hazel]

Power level wu Kong and you are good

[bitter hare]

suggestion on general pve n pvp comps?

[floral venture]

How good is this

[fiery wing]

you just put anything and it will work btw get your wukong copy at events

[slate dawn]

Is this team comp okay for early game?

[fiery wing]

if it works it works

[slate dawn]

Looool

[floral venture]

Wait how do I get wu Kong from events

[slate dawn]

How can I make it better?

[final hazel]

Ask later when u have Better hero

[final hazel]

Morrow is good use him

[sweet iris]

Is there an easier way to tier up wi long to maybe legendary without labyrinth coins

[fiery wing]

you dont

[fiery wing]

read the guides in the pins at #classic-questions you'll learn the basics

[sweet iris]

I’ve played the game before I know that celestial are pretty damn he’d to get from summoning I was just wondering if there was any easier ways to get him other than using labrum then coins

[inland crane]

Please help

[silk burrow]

how do we help if we don’t know what heroes you have

[frozen harness]

Lol

[final hazel]

I think he trolling so 🥱🥱🥱🥱🥱🥱

[silk burrow]

[rapid rampart]

help with faction please

[prisma needle]

Hey, I just started yesterday. Who am I putting on my resonating crystal for early game? Team is Hogan, Daimon and 3 supports, I'm just not sure which 3 supports would be best...? I have 3 slots on crystal (Rowan is in one but happy to take him off)

it's essentially 3 out of Silas/Rosaline/Rowan/Lyca/Tasi/Desira, right?

[lunar gulch]

Lyca , Silas , tasi

[prisma needle]

thanks, do you mind if i ask why those 3?

just so i can understand 🙂

[lunar gulch]

It's always better to ask why

Lyca elite is enough for campaign ( untill 37 iirc or above )
Lyca - inital haste ( read the skill ) it makes action of every hero faster ( including skills , move speed , animation )

Silas - healing cloud is kinda good bcoz it's stays even after Silas dead

Tasi - her inital banish let your team to survive a bit longer sometimes it's game changing

[prisma needle]

Gotcha, wasn't sure if rosaline following daimon would be handy to spam ults, but you reckon the other 3 offer more value?

[lunar gulch]

Maybe Rosa will help on early bcoz she might survive . You can swap between Silas and Rosa

But lyca is must to have

[prisma needle]

yeah, just had a read of her abilities, defo popping her on!

[lunar gulch]

FYI , Lyca - inital buff then die that's absolutely fine

[prisma needle]

gotcha, thanks 🙂

will take rowan off crystal for now then and put silas and tasi on 🙂

[lunar gulch]

Advantage of Rowan is he can still heal teammates even if he die within a second .
Silas needs to use healing cloud

But yea , you definitely try it. Try to add Rowan Silas tasi lyca all to crystal

[prisma needle]

well i'll start with silas and hopefully get more slots before too long!

[lunar gulch]

Sure you will get it soon , have fun gamer

[prisma needle]

thanks for the help 🙂

[potent oasis]

For some weird reason, I cannot complete The Forest's Edge Trial of God. At all. 👀

[lunar gulch]

Ainz them

[potent oasis]

Anyone got any lineup recommendations? The two things that keep doing for me is enemy Thoran ult cheese rekking 2-3 of my chars, and an apparently invincible Orthros near the end.

[fiery wing]

stargazing, but celes are bad without investment except for twins and ezizh

[potent oasis]

I don't have Ainz, unfortunately.

[fiery wing]

and wu kong thrash

[lunar gulch]

Ah then better ask in #classic-questions , you will get more help

[potent oasis]

Ok, thanks.

[deep solar]

Hi just started a couple days ago. Anyone have any suggestions for team comps(campaign) I can build toward with what I've got so far? Been doing okay but pretty stuck on 6-20 atm

I do have one crystal slot open and the scarlet is just the trial 😦

[delicate kestrel]

currently struggling with chapter 6 and i need help with formation trying to clear 24

[rapid rampart]

use a daimon carry comp. read the beginner guide in a pinned message in #classic-questions tions

[lost night]

Help

[raven egret]

Double Lucius and thane..? How do I beat this?

[hushed saddle]

Can i beat this with what i have now? Or i need daimon to level 200?

[rapid rampart]

you tried frontlining daimon and pop in the middle?

[pale kettle]

Help Please

[lost night]

Helpp

[hushed saddle]

Yeah i tried it just now. Best scenario so far is im able to kill the 2 front and silvinna but cant kill isabella. Isabella kills daimon instantly with her ult. Need to kill isabela before she ults.

[hushed saddle]

I just finished it. I dont know how brutus is immune for that long tho

[rapid rampart]

PoP perma stuns xD

[fiery wing]

can i check ur wishlists?

i think theres something wrong

[rustic flax]

Currently stuck here and need some help.

[fiery wing]

dont put daimon in front of estrilda

show full hero box

[fiery wing]

rosa

daimon
silas
thoran/golus
oden

[pale kettle]

Does anyone have any recommendation for an easy/cheesy campaign lineup?

[lost night]

everything right?

[fiery wing]

lyca

atalene
mirael
astar
silas

[fiery wing]

yea but i dont think thats ur wishlisht before u doing ur first summons

[lost night]

Thank you

[fiery wing]

you need daimon asap

[pale kettle]

Help please

[pale kettle]

🙏

[arctic laurel]

I'm in danger:) help pls

[rustic flax]

Stuck again, would like some help.

[lunar gulch]

Rowan thoran daimon mireal lyca

[pale kettle]

Please help

[lunar gulch]

You definitely need to look at beginners guide by bok in #classic-questions

[pale kettle]

.

[lunar gulch]

I suggest you to use one tank mostly (alna make your team slow ) you got lyca / tasi ?

Try Rowan, alna , silvina/Lorsan/oden/thoran , mireal , daimon
( If possible post video of your match it will help )

[rustic flax]

nvm, just raised their levels with some crates.

[pale kettle]

Okay

@lunar gulch

[lunar gulch]

That's close i don't think silvina is doing work here can you try
3-Lorsan
1- Daimon/rowan
4-Rowan/daimon/mireal
2- Alna
5-Mireal/daimon

It's close battle you will win with slight adjustment

[pale kettle]

This comp is the closest I have gotten still no luck

[lunar gulch]

Lorsan link not helping ?
Khaos can't kill daimon in the video but why cc khaos with nara?

I can't help with exact compb but seems doable for you

[pale kettle]

Yeah it is getting annoying though

[whole smelt]

Any ideas??

[faint crystal]

Daimon take Lyca’s spot, raku in odens, in back mid try rowan/oden/grez/eironn. Can also try to swap ferael to mid back and oden to bottom left and see how it plays out

[whole smelt]

Raku is only +21 tho

[faint crystal]

It’s fine. Still does damage. You wanna try and kill Baden first. Stack up as much dps on him as you can

[whole smelt]

Oh ok

[faint crystal]

What do you have to lose by attempting?

[whole smelt]

Nothing ig

[faint crystal]

You need to reprioritize who you ascend because your shemira, Belinda, and Isabella are stuck at those ascensions cause you don’t have anymore copies. You wasted your fodder on them already. You can’t progress with those chars unless you get more copies of them which will be difficult for you to do with limited pulls

[rigid sentinel]

i js started this game yesterday, reachibg level hundreds in campaign.. i need a new team

[native wave]

Big mistake

#classic-questions pins

[white frigate]

@faint crystal hello. What do you think i can do here? In my opinion i think i will need four months to win this fight.

[mental glen]

Try
Eironn
Daimon
Rowan
Brutus/tank
Lyca/tasi

[faint crystal]

Put your athalia on their athalia, use your Nara to hook numisu. Stack all your dps on the top corners to kill ezizh first

[white frigate]

I don’t have athalia tho and my nara is e+

[faint crystal]

You can also try Nara on the top corner to take away Safiyahs shield. Can also try to move your brutus to middle back so stall athalia if she kills your team too fast

Nara at E+ is good enough. You just need to use her to stall for a few seconds

[white frigate]

Aha okay

[white frigate]

Who should i merc for nara maybe? Lucretia?

[faint crystal]

Lucretia is always good when you’re stuck in campaign

And saurus is always useful for wandering balloon and stages like those cause he has good heal

As long as your own Nara is on RC, and has whatever decent gear, she can be used. If she can’t get her hook off and attack a few times, the. You prob need to add lyca

[pale ether]

How do i beat this stage? my frontline just melts immediately when i start this stage

[pale kettle]

Maybe try playing daimon backline for more survivability..I did that a few days back

Though I used nara for Mirael

[empty osprey]

Hi everyone, can someone help figure out what would be the optimal team comp to run/invest on out my champion pool ? i'm at chapter 9-31 and running lucius rowan thoran morrow and shemira/brutus. Thanks

[slim portal]

Read beginner guide in #classic-questions pinned message. Stop wasting resources on legend, focus on fodder hero first.

[sharp oar]

Returning player, am I missing any core new heroes?

[digital skiff]

Swap daimon and rowan

[digital skiff]

All of them.
Go to #classic-questions and ask there for a better review

[pale ether]

5 seconds in all my characters die already. is it cause my chars are very weak? should i ascend some of them?

[silk ibex]

Put Arden in your RC, his CC's useful, also use Oden. He often lumps the two enemy frontlines in front of Brutus

Shemira's not gonna see any use and Lucius is made of wet tissue paper later on so you can remove them from RC

[silk ibex]

You lack a solid carry. The best you have is Eironn but he doesn't look too invested? Rowan, Ferael, Lyca and Brutus are what I'd usually use at your stage but it leaves a huge gap in who your carry should be. You might have to start working on Arthur from Lab and getting the resources to Garrisoning Ainz and Albedo

You might have to ask someone else for this but imo your best bet is trying to build Daimon ASAP for Graveborn team, invest in Eironn for 5Pull (again, I don't know much about that team) or take a longer route and do AAA comp (Ainz, Albedo and Arthur)

Either way you should probably work on a Mortas and maybe start building Lucretia if you wanna get use out of that Eironn

[leaden glacier]

I have 40 sg cards planning to pull when it reach 70 after m khazard should i sg zolrath? Or m mortas

[royal stag]

Imo Mortas

[pale kettle]

Help please

[proven river]

When the level diffrence kicks in

Any Ideas ?

[pale kettle]

ah cool okay. not really a big deal ill just start again on a different server

[pale kettle]

Please.

[silk ibex]

If you still need help with that, Rowan Lyca Brutus Ferael Oden Daimon Thoran, I don't think there's much variation in between these 7 for me with these chapters. Thoran I rarely used until A tho. Nara extremely situational. It's mostly Lyca Rowan Daimon Brutus Fera

[silk ibex]

I think your problem is using Silvina, and using her as a frontline when there are no Mages for her to disrupt

[pale kettle]

That is just random stuff...I was using thoran before her

Also tried daimon frontline but did not work

[silk ibex]

Rules of thumb:

• Daimon is rarely a frontline - him being a tank is mostly bullshit early on. He's a carry and should be treated as such.
• Your frontline is either mostly sacrificial like Lyca (for Haste) and Thoran (for fear) or Brutus for stalling.
• Damage alone will not carry you, CC is very important cause enemies later on can Ult almost instantly if you don't CC them
• Figure out which Heroes need to do what to make sure Daimon has enough time to snowball and you'll do much better

[pale kettle]

:o okay

[silk ibex]

@pale kettle Just a few pointers, I use these 5 for a majority of the stages:

• Daimon, needs to snowball. With SI20 he gets magnitudes stronger since he steals stats
• Brutus, infinite tankiness for 7 seconds, stuff him between the brunt of the damage and who you wanna keep alive
• Lyca, Haste so your opening moves are a little quicker and your team can Ult faster. She also has a stall that makes her start further back if you put her Front, making her a counter somewhat to Estrilda.
• Rowan, his health and energy recovery and stun from Ult can be game-changing if allowed to survive alongside Daimon
• Ferael, fears 3 people at once, drains energy, nerfs healing (synergy with Daimon giving stolen HP back to enemies), just one of the best Supports. Use Arden early on if he's not strong enough.

Situational picks:

• Oden, clumps two Heroes together and if he lives long enough his Ult can neuter a carry. I use him to clump frontlines in front of Brutus mostly
• Nara, hooks some of the more troublesome units like Isabelle, Shemira and Mehira. Never found her to work well with Tasi tho despite what people say
• Thoran, combos well sometimes with Oden or Nara. Especially in one of the later Chapters (around Ch14-16 I think?) where you can double CC enemy Isabelle with Nara+Thoran. You use him early for his revival fear sometimes, but expect him to get one-shot and the enemies to ignore him while he's reviving.
• Silas, early on if he can still survive that immunity from Ult can make sure Daimon becomes unstoppable.
• Eironn, used him less than a handful of times but he's a niche last-resort for me sometimes. Pulls 3 enemies in front of him. Need to fiddle around with a lot of positioning cause most of the time pulled enemies ignore Brutus and go straight for Daimon.

For early game, your other frontline options can be Hogan and Golus, but I personally prefer Golus since he tanks for longer.

[pale kettle]

:O that's a lot of info but THANK YOU!

[silk ibex]

@pale kettle Gonna be copy-pasting this in this channel a lot lol

[pale kettle]

Lmao I am honoured I was the first reader

[silk ibex]

Oh and retry prolly at least 100 times with different stuff before using Merc instead of always using them as soon as you have them like me a dumdum

[lunar gulch]

In Diamon - he not rely on si10 for becoming beast, his main powerspike is coming from si20 that's why hes solid for early game

[silk ibex]

I didn't say SI10 specifically tho, I thought SI20 was pretty common knowledge

[lunar gulch]

But you mentioned killing enemies to make him stronger as primary , that's si10

He no need to kill just having shield makes him stronger , that's si20

[silk ibex]

Yeah SI20 doubles the effects of his base SI

[lunar gulch]

I agree with you but the part 'killing enemies makes daimon stronger' as primary is needs more explanation

Even only with shield he's strong , killing enemies make him better but that's not why he's good rite ? i just wanna say this

[silk ibex]

@lunar gulch Edited it for clarity, just gonna make it so that he needs SI20 because he needs to steal stats to snowball

[lunar gulch]

Your intentions are good but it relied me different message

[silk ibex]

What are some other Heroes that people use early? Cause I've tried most of the ones that are useful save for Athalia for obvious reasons. Other units don't seem to survive whatsoever

[lunar gulch]

You are far more better for this explanation than me (im outdated player for early game )
But i can say few
Tasi - she's good
Lorsan - i usually used again f... Golus/saveas on early game
Gorvo - i need him when I got raku
Fawkes - i manually used Fawkes ult to dispel Brutus immunity and win many matches
Rarely I used Elucard for tank and immunity

[pale kettle]

:o

[elfin cloak]

anything that can stun is good
i think

[lunar gulch]

You looking for best CC ?

[silk ibex]

Tasi - Doesn't survive at all later on at E/E+. Tried her with full T2 gear and Call and she only banishes with good RNG.
Lorsan - No comment, didn't try him enough early on.
Gorvo - Ohey Mr. Angy- Oh the Hero. Yeah never tried him either.
Fawkes - Can counter Brutus and some carries with his coffin but he needs to survive.

If you have these Heroes at E+ around Ch20 they start to fall off even with gear

Most of the E+ Heroes you keep after that need to be quick one-shot Heroes. Meaning they do one thing and die

[lunar gulch]

I thought you asked for ch1 to 25

[pale kettle]

Lorsan at level 120 is like a one shot character u are just using him for that linking basically

[silk ibex]

Yeah they work early on, but the list starts to funnel into a narrower lineup like the ones I listed.

[lunar gulch]

It's hard to manage Fawkes alive i get it but it's possible on early game i have personal exp

[silk ibex]

Correct me if I'm wrong but I think the game's available options for campaign are almost like an hourglass shape.

[elfin cloak]

i mean idk who is lol

[pale kettle]

There was a tier list uploaded on reddit two days ago I heard it is good

[silk ibex]

Like you get a lot of options that work early on then midgame since you haven't built multiple comps yet your choices start to narrow as you centralize your investment, then as you complete more "minimum investments" you get more comps as you hit multis

[silk ibex]

Reddit's not known for being too informative with this game lol, do you have a link?

[pale kettle]

One sec

[lunar gulch]

But you mentioned oden thoran as supports so i thought you looking for beginner good elite hero's . Yea list will get narrower when we progress further but celepogeans will get wider

[lunar gulch]

Imo , Reddit is best source to learn about this game

[pale kettle]

Endgame tierlist

@silk ibex

This is endgame campaign tierlist I guess

[lunar gulch]

Without below explanation this pic is not good , read with explanation . So you won't missunderstand oden as CC hero he do cc with insane damage also

[pale kettle]

Yeah I read the explanations below understood most of it

[silk ibex]

That's actually pretty accurate yeah. Some of the later game players would maybe debate a bit based on personal experience but for the most part it's accurate

[silk ibex]

Laughs in 3 Lucretia copies

[pale kettle]

It is not one of those S tier to F tier thing which I don't prefer

[silk ibex]

Yeah those explain nothing. Like S tier in what exactly

[elfin cloak]

im still pushing hypogean tower with 3 hypogeans lmao

[silk ibex]

It's like those "Who is better, X or Y Hero" questions in #classic-questions

[pale kettle]

I am still stuck at 12-30

[silk ibex]

Which 3 lol, Luc Mortas Mehira?

[lunar gulch]

E100 luc with two lvl 1

[dull flame]

my theory is you're never completely stuck, there's always a way to beat a stage

[pale kettle]

Sometimes that way is not available I guess

[surreal lintel]

Ch12 has been rough so far 😦

[silk ibex]

Considering one of my stages took 702 tries of RNG I'm inclined to agree if not for the fact certain comps and heroes have certain investment breakpoints before it becomes a matter of positioning over stats

[pale kettle]

:o r u on the same stage ?

[elfin cloak]

nop
lucretia leofric and zikis
lmao they the only ones i have

[silk ibex]

One such example I guess is Brutus, you just need to know where to put him

[dull flame]

uhuh. What stage was it? I think my highest was 1290 on 38-11

[surreal lintel]

Nah, I'm in ch12-9 right now, been pushing through

[pale kettle]

Imagine having Brutus ')

[lunar gulch]

I need pc to play now , can't spam retry button . Fu..... Flora

[pale kettle]

Good luck

[surreal lintel]

thanks thanks! 🙂

[silk ibex]

It was a later stage in Ch16 I think, back when Estrilda was my biggest worry. I had not unlocked the page in the game's lore that explains how Tasi's name has a special meaning in her fairy language.

In the tongue of the fairies Tasi actually means "Bitch".

[dull flame]

lmao

[lunar gulch]

[dull flame]

I was running 2 alts, and isabella is terrible to face

[silk ibex]

I quickly learned double CC with Nara+Thoran is good for Isa early on

[surreal lintel]

Would you guys reckon it's time to switch off of Talene now and try to push for the chapter 12 box? Should've enough saved for M Daimon with it

[elfin cloak]

lol in those chapters i countered estrilda with estrilda

[dull flame]

you guys had trouble with estrilda?

[surreal lintel]

Estrilda and the invulnerable dude are insufferable

[silk ibex]

I hear Nemora counters Estril but I've never seen it work

[dull flame]

just use daimon and put him the furthest from her

[silk ibex]

If Talene is falling off then yeah possibly, was that L+ Eironn an early mistake?

[silk ibex]

This, keep Daimon as far away from Estrilda as possible.

Depressed boi does not like angy horse lady

[dull flame]

wouldn't call it a big mistake, eironn still has some uses

[surreal lintel]

My mentor told me to go for it, I got 5 Eironns and was downright stuck, allowed me to push a bit

Now I'm not sure who to use as my carry between Eironn, Ainz & Mirael though

[dull flame]

your mentor is kinda huh.

[silk ibex]

Eironn's decent, but generally you'd wanna make sure he can hit Mythic or Ascended before spending fodder on him

[surreal lintel]

Cause yeah this is starting to be ridiculous in the deficit department haha

[dull flame]

^^^^^^his sig is op. But an ascended daimon is fine to chap 24

[dull flame]

pull the saveas, rowan out for daimon

[silk ibex]

Say you get 8 copies of Raku through pure RNGesus and no Eironn copies, you're out of fodder to Ascend him, what do, y'know

[surreal lintel]

Yeah good point

[silk ibex]

Daimon is still my carry. I'm struggling hard rn cause of no 3F but yeah he's still useful

[dull flame]

problem with eironn is that he doesn't have enough haste early game until you break to 240. That's why wayyyyyyy back when daimon wasn't in the game, the go to was shem till 240, then eironn safyia, which is an old team

[surreal lintel]

So who do you reckon I should use instead of Talene? Kinda breaks my heart to switch her around

To be fair Eironn right now is mostly used to temporize so Talene can get her revive with Thoran

Bit cheesy but helps me push a lot

[dull flame]

try to get daimon to mythic and just use him

[elfin cloak]

i didnt realize what to do for furniture so my daimons like 6f

[silk ibex]

About time you give Daimon a chance to shine by building a team centralized around getting him to snowball

[dull flame]

many people say his 9f sucks, I think it has uses, just not priority.

[surreal lintel]

I mean that's the plan, but he's L, won't he lack tankiness?

[silk ibex]

He's not meant to be a tank early on

[elfin cloak]

daimon isnt a tank tho

[silk ibex]

@surreal lintel Read from here, I actually just typed this for someone lol

[dull flame]

nope, he can be a sub dps early game at just legendary. It says his class is tank,but his skills scale off of enemy heroes % stats, thus giving him tons of damage

[surreal lintel]

yeah i read it, mostly meant that rn my teams are getting one shotted, gonna give him a try though 🙂

[dull flame]

.

[silk ibex]

Is that GB comp I see

[dull flame]

whoops, I had a guide for using daimon that I wrote, afk chat wont let me upload

[elfin cloak]

lol im stuck on 32-4 cuz the first battle is like really dependent on ldv getting his ult off and then i dont have anything stronk enough for the second battle

[dull flame]

that's my guide for daimon

[silk ibex]

First one definitely starts falling off at Ch28, from my own experience. I might need 3F to push through this

[elfin cloak]

when is lucretia like viable to b used

[dull flame]

I've tried that first team on an alt, although I was slightly overlevelled(around RC 220 when I pushed c28), it got me to around c30

[surreal lintel]

So something like this / with Lyca instead of Talene?

[dull flame]

when she has her sig at least to +20, +30 and 9/9 when possible

[silk ibex]

@dull flame I'm getting to RC220 slowly, do you remember if you had 3F

[dull flame]

yep, I did. Although if you look at afk helper, some of those guys pushed with a +20 daimon

[elfin cloak]

do you engrave her lol
lmao im kinda far from that but whatever

[dull flame]

well, I pushed chap 32 a year ago without using lucretia so~

[silk ibex]

Kinda yeah. Remember the whole point is keeping Daimon alive. Maybe swap Thoran with Lyca to tank Saveas. Silas with Rowan so Silas doesn't melt to Khasos.

[dull flame]

this^^^^

[elfin cloak]

yea im not using lucretia either cuz not ascended

tho what i use rn is kinda dumb
cuz its like
daimon

brutus
rowan
arthur
ldv

[dull flame]

if she's mythic then she can work

[elfin cloak]

i mean she dies to fast rn

[silk ibex]

Looks like a solid team to me. LDV filling Fera's spot and Arthur instead of Thoran 🤔

[dull flame]

show me what team you use luc in, most of the time it's positioning.

[surreal lintel]

oh yeah it quite slaps, just unblocked me & Talene gets a ton of resets, just gonna mix / match based on stage ig. Should get a lot easier once I finish this chapter and get Daimon to M

[elfin cloak]

i mean i dont really have a team lol and idk where lucretia should go

[fiery wing]

never knew mehira daimon is a thing i just copied that comp from afkhelper and surprisingly works

[dull flame]

well show me the stage and your heroes

[silk ibex]

Yep. It's a bit better if you can get Daimon to SI20 in one go tho

[dull flame]

mehira daimon eventually evolves into charmizard with khazard +30 replacing daimon

[elfin cloak]

its when theres like lucius and i need the stuns and stuff lol and my thoran is weak

[silk ibex]

Always level SIs 10 by 10. There are a few exceptions (Like Tasi SI15) but for the most part, 10 by 10

[dull flame]

^^^^You're smart for someone in chap 28

[surreal lintel]

How can I prep for this? Are those the emblems ppl keep talking about?

[elfin cloak]

uh ive only really used it on one stage where it was like
.lucretia

brutus
eiron
arthur
rowan

[dull flame]

do you have 5 pull?

[elfin cloak]

which ones is that lol

[dull flame]

skriath 3f

[silk ibex]

I'm an impatient person. My GF asks me why I would play something that takes 702 tries to beat one stage.

AFK Arena is free anger management therapy.

[elfin cloak]

o my skriath is still 1 away from ascended lol

[dull flame]

lmao. Keep it up, you better be c38 in half a year

[pale kettle]

Yeah I almost broke my phone today because of Brutus...I am learning to control my anger

[dull flame]

trust me, when you've played this game for 2 years and see some crazy sht that I've seen, nothing makes you angry anymore

[slim portal]

I’m half in chap 33 with mythic Lucretia SI30, it’s doable but required good support and RNG

[silk ibex]

Hope so lol, my progress is slowing down a bit rn

[elfin cloak]

mm ok lol

mine is like si 20 i think

how many reds to go from 20 to 30 lol

[slim portal]

30 is necessary to be viable as team 1/2

[dull flame]

+30 and you'll see a huge difference. Keep in mind that you guys have chap 33-35 much easier with all the nerfs

[dull flame]

if you ever get stupidly stuck you can always dm me

[silk ibex]

300

[elfin cloak]

oki

[silk ibex]

220 240 and 300 for SI30 iirc?

[fiery wing]

whaat? 702 retries?

[elfin cloak]

i keep making alts but then i lose motivation to play on them lol

[silk ibex]

Just checked the wiki recently

[dull flame]

rookie numbers. try 1290

Here's my luc btw. E77 right now

[elfin cloak]

my highest was like 200

[silk ibex]

Does someone have that screenshot of 42k tries lol

[dull flame]

oh yeah, macro straight for a week

[silk ibex]

Mad lad. 2 weeks more like

[dull flame]

@silk ibex @elfin cloak

here's some references

[silk ibex]

1050 tho, big oof

[dull flame]

from +30 to +35, it's actually relatively cheap, I made luc +35 and only took 280 RC

[silk ibex]

@dull flame Stuck on this stage if you feel like helping

[elfin cloak]

[dull flame]

brutus faces estrilda,thoran faces hendrik

[dull flame]

luc usually uses shroud or bow, I'd also t3 a couple of her gear if other carries are t3d

[silk ibex]

Rowan and Daimon are T2 weap with T2 boots on Rowan as well cause dodge machine

[elfin cloak]

I don't have those artifacts ;(

[dull flame]

I did push to c30 with +20 rowan tho

[dull flame]

get shroud at least

[elfin cloak]

the last couple of times I've tried the trials I've been not strong enough

should I

[dull flame]

yeah, trials are much easier once you have a solid ainz team. Here's what I did: Get just 16 to get the artifact, come back 3 months later to get all the fragements

[dull flame]

uh brb, I think t3ing weapon might be better, gotta check

[silk ibex]

Melted. Rip

[dull flame]

we'll be right back

[silk ibex]

No variation on retry spam

[dull flame]

I find it ironic you're stuck exactly 10 chapters below where I was stuck

[dull flame]

weapon first, then boots

[elfin cloak]

o stitchy disappeared

[slim portal]

I can’t visit back my chap 32 clear with mythic luc, but it basically eironn + 3f skriath group opponent, with support like lorsan link/Lyca haste/rowan pippa energy/safiya buff etc to make it work

[dull flame]

that's how it is all the way to chap 37. after that, queen usually makes her appearance

[elfin cloak]

which trials for fields of stone

[dull flame]

you can try this

call on daimon and rowan only btw

[silk ibex]

Exactly the team I was trying lmao

[elfin cloak]

also I don't understand what the order is here lol like which place is what on the field

[silk ibex]

Maybe need 3F and RC220 lol

[dull flame]

See the numbers on the ground?

[elfin cloak]

ohhhh

[dull flame]

yeah, order of appearance is order you put them on the ground

[dull flame]

so in this case, thoran would be position 1, brutus position 2, etc

[faint crystal]

That would be your best course of action if you don’t mind restarting. If you really are restarting though, you should consider finding all of the current gift codes that work and rack up all the diamonds. Do as many pulls as you can on each new server until you manage to pull a primary carry… I did that last time and I got lucky enough to start with 2 copies of daimon on my 3rd attempt. Make sure you set your wishlist first if you plan to do that

[slim portal]

Difficulty starts to get skyrocket when hitting chap 33 onward (required 3>4>5 team when I have only enough for 2 team…) but thanks for future tips

[dull flame]

no problem. If you copy teams from afk helper and build them you should be fine. Chap 33 is only, what 3 teams? Used to be 5 teams halfway through c33, so you can take it a bit slower

[silk ibex]

Can you show me the gear for this lineup

[dull flame]

they didn't show gearing , call on daimon rowan, eye on fereal, chalice/drape on brutus or thoran is my guess

[faint crystal]

You need to stack dps on hendrik or try to use Nara to pull the sniper at the bottom and kill him first. Or use oden to send the tanks to a corner and then try to make daimon rush the backline

[pale kettle]

i got two daimons right off the bat and haven't spent any diamonds yet haha

[faint crystal]

That’s money right there

[dull flame]

@silk ibex can also try this

[silk ibex]

Ainz no Furn, rip

[dull flame]

shouldn't matter, he's not dps

nvm he is a slight dps, but not too much

[silk ibex]

Replacing Ainz with Oden, looks doable. Macro time lol

[dull flame]

hehe go for it

[pale kettle]

Anyone can help?

[dull flame]

pick-pickaxe dude?

[pale kettle]

The guy at the bottom right

I forgot his name I needed a description

[dull flame]

uh mereall out for oden

[silk ibex]

Most of my stuck stages are kinda like Dr. Strange 1.4 billion possibilities with Rowan specifically.

Only one timeline where Rowan unlocks Ultra Instinct and dodges everything

[dull flame]

lmao, you can mess around with artfact placements ig

[silk ibex]

Rowan can't guarantee Ult even with Call, so prolly not taking it off

[pale kettle]

She is the carryish ._. (I mean daimon is better but still she is high level)

[dull flame]

daimon should be able to do it by himself, give it a go

[pale kettle]

The axes are hitting he just dies

If I place him top left he dies because of the girl

[slim portal]

You can try Nara to disable axe boy/spider girl and make space for daimon/fire girl to contribute more damage

[silk ibex]

Ankhira webs the highest attack Hero on your team, Khasos throws piercing axes. Do with that info what you will lol

Maybe CC Ankhira and try to let Daimon tank Khasos' opening axe throw

[slim portal]

I would drop daimon for Nara/Old man/Ferael for crowd control, fire girl should contribute enough damage

[silk ibex]

Yeah I think Mirael's a better choice for carry if she can get to 160 but Daimon can't

Nara/Arden/Ferael and see if they delay Ankhira (3rd time I almost typed Ankha, damn you Zone-tan)

[pale kettle]

Brutus immunity is painnn

[full carbon]

Looking for help on 21-60, have tried over 60 formations probably 10x each or more to allow for rng.

[pale kettle]

F.......painnnn

[faint crystal]

Arden is a good counter for brutus early game. You position arden far away and you basically pray that when brutus is the last char and close to procing his shield, arden roots him in place. Same with niru

[silk ibex]

Daimon

Brutus
Rowan
Lyca
Ferael

Spam retry for Ferael to CC Tasi. This is an RNG-heavy stage

[full carbon]

Thanks will try!

[silk ibex]

@dull flame Ohey retry-spam Macro cleared that stage, it worked with Oden replacing Ainz

[dull flame]

very nice

[silk ibex]

Take weapon off of Ferael btw, for some reason it makes him fear quicker

[faint crystal]

Brutus, Rowan, Nara, daimon, ferael. Nara on the healer and focus dps on killing the tree

Can also try replacing Rowan with grez and moving them around to find optimal placement as long as you stall kaz, lock healer, and dps tree

[full carbon]

Gave this about 100 tries, lyca and ferael both get 1 shot instantly and never do much, in 90% of these, daimon never even gets 1 ult, a few i saw he got lucky and did but that was it. tried with and without bow

[full carbon]

Tried this about 100 times too, made better progress than cat on head's lineup but i only once saw that i even got 1 person on the other team dead. I had previously made progress with a simiar team w/ Talene in place of brutus, because she would come back and give daimon a break for a second and get another ult off sometimes but still not enough

I know boty my Nara and Ferael are low though - wondering if I may just need to wait out next weeks short term garrison for someone stronger than is on my team

[faint crystal]

You need some dps behind daimon like raku

Or another tank in front of daimon to buy him more ti@e

Or get rid of tree with oden and rush back line

[full carbon]

wow swapping in oden, i got WAY further

i just used Talene, Brutus on front, rowan daimon oden and got 3 dead, gonna try spamming this

[dull flame]

oden is a really op hero after his buffs

[silk ibex]

Oden can surprise you sometimes. He's not usually in my main lineup since I prefer Ferael CC but on the comps where that doesn't work Oden usually has a shot

[full carbon]

wow, got it!

thanks guys!

[stone holly]

Im 452 what formation can i use?

[slim portal]

Refer to here: https://afkhelper.nax.is/campaign.php?chapter=37&stage=49
Most group going Alna comp with high level deficit, mehira and thoran comp works too. If you’re 452 should be easier

[dull flame]

usually thoran cheese is for single stages. But alna grez for this stage I think

[stone holly]

ty

390 and im having issues being 60 lvls more? come on

[dull flame]

levels don't matter as much as you think, it's about team synergies. Don't try ainzing single stages unless you have a <160 lvl deficit.

[random garnet]

Any ideas for mauler tower, floor 399? 😅

[dull flame]

afk helper not helping?

[random garnet]

Didn't know we had that until now. Checking it out. Thanks 😅

[digital skiff]

You need to +30 kren wtf bro

[random garnet]

@digital skiff but he's been doing so well with +20

[digital skiff]

How are you 415 rc with that shitass mauler box bro

[random garnet]

Lmfao, cause maulers suck

[leaden glacier]

I dont think thats a shitty mauler box he had 12 ascended mauler units

[elfin sinew]

Anything i can make with this

8-28 rn btw

[pale kettle]

Nice

[drifting minnow]

Tried many formation didnt work and i cant lend a friend hero

This is first time i got stuck since i started game 20 days ago

[safe hazel]

Lyca instead of talene

[drifting minnow]

Tries that didnt work

Tried rowan instead of talene and then lyca in back same result

I cant kill any of them and they just outsustain me ... trio in back is realy annoying

My daimon either rooted or sleeping or banished

[safe hazel]

Try the same comp but daimon and brutus at top

[drifting minnow]

Tried it didnt work... is there a way to re direct tasi banish to someone else?

She always target daimon where ever he is

[safe hazel]

She goes for highest attack rating

Maybe ask @silk ibex I used ainzbedo for all these stages

[drifting minnow]

The daimon just gets perma cced

[silk ibex]

Ah yes. The person who just got out of Tasi hell and is taking a fresh breath of air before diving back into pain and suffering. Hello I'm here

@drifting minnow Tasi banishes the Hero with the highest attack rating. In this case it's pretty much always gonna be Daimon or whoever your carry is. The trick is to CC her and interrupt her banish before she can cast her Banish. I'm not sure on the specifics of how it works, but I think stunning her during her 2nd skill (Banish) will skip over that skill and make her have to cycle through her abilities again to Banish you.

So your best bet is to use Ferael or Nara if you can make her work, to interrupt her Banish so Daimon doesn't become a punching bag

[drifting minnow]

So either a thousand retry with ferael or some nara magic

[safe hazel]

Pretty sure you put Nara where tasi blinks to

[silk ibex]

After that it's pure RNG cause she blinks everywhere. She's at a level right now where she can't 1v5 your entire team by one-shotting them with blinks, so take the time when Tasi isn't pestering Daimon for him to Ult at least twice and kill someone for their stats. A snowballed Daimon can absolutely 1v1 a Tasi at your stage

[silk ibex]

Across from her since the blink is random. iirc if Nara survives long enough she hooks whoever was across from her at the beginning of the battle?

If she survives. Ferael's a lot more reliable imo. By the time you've stalled her to her next banish try to get Rowan to Ult and continue the CC chain

[pale kettle]

im using rowan as my front line tank what should i pick ?

i could also pick something for ferael if thats better

[silk ibex]

Rowan isn't much of a tank till T1 or even T2 Weapon+Boots. Is there anything else you'd need more? Is your carry geared?

[pale kettle]

i dont really have a carry i have a bad ainz and a lvl 170 ferael

[safe hazel]

Save it

[pale kettle]

for what

[drifting minnow]

Got it im skipped her first blink now need rowan to ult

[safe hazel]

Until you either get a better carry or unlock t1/t2 stones

[pale kettle]

i have one

[pale kettle]

a stone choice chest that has t1 and t2 stones

[safe hazel]

Yh you need to be a certain chapter to use them

[pale kettle]

nah i can use them

[silk ibex]

Some of them don't have that restriction, some do. It's weird

[safe hazel]

Boots are alway prio for gear btw

[safe hazel]

Really how?

[silk ibex]

@safe hazel Except Agi gear which prioritizes weapons then boots

Either way boots and weap are what you build first, the rest is kinda redundant until high deficits

[silk ibex]

@safe hazel Answer to your question btw

[pale kettle]

there is a "strengthen" button on t1 mythic gear i can press and it asks me to use "t1/T2 stone choice chest"

[silk ibex]

Save your resources for now

[safe hazel]

Interesting I’m pretty sure that is from temporal rift then right?

[silk ibex]

Send your box btw

[pale kettle]

temple of time i was trying to get talene

[silk ibex]

I forgot where I got some of my Stone boxes from but iirc some of them allow you to get the stone without campaign progression. Idk why there are 2 types of boxes for these stones but meh

[pale kettle]

my stone box is from the temple of time

same as my mythic gear chest

[silk ibex]

Anyway. I don't think you have anyone worth using the Stones on for now

[safe hazel]

Yh just save it

[silk ibex]

For me I'm saving 2 each of T1/2/3 Int stones so I can get Ainz to T3 gear when I have enough to exchange Dim Boots and Weap

[pale kettle]

ok but

the mythic gear chests dont have dimensional gear so i have to get something for rowan instead

or ferael

[silk ibex]

Do you really not have a carry?

[silk ibex]

Send your box, no Daimon, no Mirael? Worst case scenario E+ Raku or Kren?

[pale kettle]

this is my team

[silk ibex]

Thanks for showing me 12 of your Heroes and 3 Mercs lol, send full box

[pale kettle]

aight hold on

stay tuned im gonna make a collage

[silk ibex]

You're on BlueStacks

[pale kettle]

yeah

[silk ibex]

"Windows Key + Shift + S" all of it

[safe hazel]

Look at beginner guide in #classic-questions all of it is still very relevant to you

[pale kettle]

@silk ibex

[silk ibex]

@safe hazel He has the right faction fodder and 2 Mythics. I think he's doing alright

[safe hazel]

He has Lucius

[pale kettle]

xDDDD

[silk ibex]

Prolly followed an outdated reddit guide

[pale kettle]

but i dont have anything to replace lucius with

[silk ibex]

Though I will admit you probably should have been a bit more patient with your fodder. Did you Ascend Ferael cause you thought he was a carry lol

Literally anyone can replace Lucius. He's shit

[safe hazel]

Golus or hogan is better

[silk ibex]

He has Brutus. Just not in RC.

[pale kettle]

i have space in my rc

[safe hazel]

Put Brutus in then

[drifting minnow]

Damn it i killed both tasi and norma then kaz one shoted me somehow

[pale kettle]

elite brutus is better than legend lucius?

[safe hazel]

Yes much better stop making legendary heroes as well

E Brutus can be used past ch 30

[pale kettle]

yeah i know grezhul and tasi were mistakes

but lucius hmm

[silk ibex]

Retry spam. Kaz is a bit RNG

[pale kettle]

i'll try brutus

[safe hazel]

Keep grez at L+ he isn’t good even at A without 9F

[silk ibex]

You followed an outdated guide from 3 years ago I'm guessing

[drifting minnow]

I love how kaz is an absolute immune dodge beast in campagn then she just doesnt work when u use her

[silk ibex]

Yeah Grez is low prio for him if he doesn't even have his box and fodder in order. Rather he wait for something lower investment like Daimon

[pale kettle]

nah i tunnel visioned on ainz and my brother was like grezhul is good -_-

[safe hazel]

You will most likely want to ascend fera and daimon with fodder

[silk ibex]

What point in progression is your brother lol

[pale kettle]

36-15

[silk ibex]

So he told you Grez is good but not how or when

[safe hazel]

Grez is best 4F hero after 9F before that nrlly

[silk ibex]

Beast carry with 9F yeah

[pale kettle]

but he's not stuck he's just doing one stage per week cuz apparently it gives you T2 and T3 drops in afk rewards if you clear a stage every week

[silk ibex]

Ah, Mythic exploit

[pale kettle]

is it an exploit

idk but he could easily be ch40

or so he says

[silk ibex]

Pretending to struggle on a stage then clearing it after waiting a couple days tricks the game into rewarding you better gear immediately after beating the stage

[pale kettle]

it's a feature then

[silk ibex]

If he's F2P I don't think Ch40 comes easy

[pale kettle]

he's f2p indeed

wait

wait wait you clear the stage first then collect afk rewards ?

[safe hazel]

Yh

[pale kettle]

i see

[silk ibex]

It's a waste of time to do it earlier on tho

[pale kettle]

yeah i know

[digital skiff]

Someone with 415rc, those are pathetic hero's to have tbh

And heres my box to compare

[leaden glacier]

He didnt prio mauler id u could be also rc 400 with that lvl id trade an si30 just to have an additional ascended unit

[digital skiff]

I didn't prio mauler too tho

[narrow stirrup]

Hello guys I just started the game 2 days ago and I was wondering if I could get some help with a line up for the campaign? Im at the middle of chapter 9 atm, im not sure what I should be prioritizing?

[digital skiff]

Read pins at #classic-questions and I'd ask there for better tips. This channel isn't very good for general teams but individual campaign enemies

[narrow stirrup]

Thank you so much!

[digital skiff]

[polar whale]

How can I deal with this? Rowan just dies before he can ult. If I use other cc like Arden/Morrow over Nara they get one shot by Silvina as well. Nara can't kill Isabella.

[leaden glacier]

What does ur other 4f look like

[safe hazel]

Swap daimon and rowan a f read beginner guide pinned in #classic-questions

[supple mantle]

Mine is even worse xd

[polar whale]

This is like the 3rd time you suggest I read the guide, and I've read it before you did the first time.

Swapping Rowan with Daimon just made Rowan die in 1s instead of 3s.

[subtle wolf]

Hey can someone help me out with a lineup for fight 3 and 4 in cursed realm?

[silk ibex]

Curious, did you have a general idea of what you were doing or did you read some kind of guide beforehand? Cause if you started levelling your Heroes completely blind I am fucking impressed how close to optimized your levelling priority seems to be

[silk ibex]

@safe hazel Weren't you the one who lectured me on not always redirecting people to the guide

[pale kettle]

@silk ibex what should i give elite brutus

[polar whale]

No, but I feel like whoever did was right.

[high marlin]

You can always check afk helper

[high marlin]

Drape is fine on Brutus since you don't have the tank relics yet

[silk ibex]

You need another frontliner honestly. Lucius does pretty much nothing, Daimon isn't actually a tank. Do you have some Mauler/LB fodder in the works? A Thoran maybe?

[silk ibex]

I usually use Blade on Brutus

[safe hazel]

You were the one who said that…..

[pale kettle]

i can probably get dura's chalice of vitality if i tryhard enough

[silk ibex]

Or Barricade. Either way not much of a difference

[high marlin]

Why?

[silk ibex]

We literally switched viewpoints lmao

[safe hazel]

That never happened

[silk ibex]

Cause I doubt the Artifact matters at my current stage and investment in Brutus. He's there for 7 seconds of immunity and nothing else at this point rn

[high marlin]

Yeah but barricade is infinitely better than blade

[safe hazel]

Try fera instead of Nara with fera holdin no weapon

[polar whale]

I have enough fodder to L+ any of the faction fodders. Would it make a difference if they're lvl 120/121 though? Would they not just die instantly regardless? Daimon is actually surviving pretty well.

[silk ibex]

Yee. But still doesn't do much. He dies before Daimon does

[high marlin]

Barricade redirects damage while blade does nothing

[silk ibex]

Yeh I know, it's just a negligible difference either way given how my Brutus is setup. At least I'll have Barricade for Ainzbedo comp once I have enough stuff to switch over. Saving T1/2/3 stones rn

[silk ibex]

Yeah but the problem is since Daimon is also your carry he needs to forfeit his role to soak damage and CC and delegate it to someone else to stall for him

Golus might be your best bet here. Brutus can go naked but Golus passive with some decent L gear can work some wonders at your Chapter

[high marlin]

This dude

[silk ibex]

You'd be surprised how tanky he gets on the brink of death

[silk ibex]

Wut

[safe hazel]

Brutus rowan frontline mirael backline and daimon behind Brutus and ferael in last spot

I cleared the whole of ch 12 on my alt with that exact lineup with 160 mirael and 140 daimon just ferael instead of rowan in what I suggested

[safe hazel]

Any help just need to clear this for 1K engraving mats

[silk ibex]

Do you even have anything to Engrave rn? Tho 300/F is still good cause new FoS node

I'll try to check what I used

[royal stag]

Maybe put Lucretia in

[supple mantle]

Swap brutus with eironn and put a rosa frontrow for eironn (rosa on daimon) just a wild guess it probly won’t work xd

[safe hazel]

rip rowan +30

[silk ibex]

Reep

[safe hazel]

I wish the game actually gave me rowan copies instead of 7 Rosa copies

[silk ibex]

You and me both. Game not giving me Rowan copies ruined my HCP reset

[supple mantle]

Try weird stuff and don’t use eironn

[safe hazel]

why not?

[supple mantle]

Idk doesn’t seem good there to me

[safe hazel]

oh I thought you were talking about in general

[supple mantle]

No just here

[supple mantle]

Try
Brutus
Daimon
Fera
Rosa(follow daimon)
Lyca

[safe hazel]

seems like my lyca doesn't have enough dodge to survive for even a second or does athalia ignore dodge or smth

[supple mantle]

She doesn’t need to survive I think

[safe hazel]

daimon has meh survivablitity ig as well he can't ult once i'll retry more tho maybe just rng

[supple mantle]

If everything fails just try to lucr cheese it

[safe hazel]

yh i'll probably just do that

[silk ibex]

@meager spire Here are some tips for Daimon comp, there's more details below that

[meager spire]

thanks!

unfortunately I don't have most of the heroes listed there, and the ones that I have are not even R+

and my only tank is Hogan, at L+

[silk ibex]

Not even Golus?

[meager spire]

I have spent resources on Saveas for the maulers

[silk ibex]

That's a little problematic, what Chapter are you at?

[meager spire]

😦

[silk ibex]

Do you have a Mirael? Actually screenshot your box

[meager spire]

currently stuck on 13-22

everyone gets killed before they even have a chance to do anything

[silk ibex]

You're doing well for yourself in the Graveborn department at least, have you taken Oden off your WL yet?

[meager spire]

yeah, I got a lot of GB heroes before even mass summoning them with faction scrolls

I didn't, should I? I thought I would need more copies of him after I ascended

[silk ibex]

8 copies for Ascended, you shouldn't star-hunt when your core GBs aren't done

[meager spire]

ah ok

[silk ibex]

A little difficult to tell you what to do right now since your only FL is Hogan. 13-22 is pretty far for what you have going on tbh.

Can you send the lineup for the stage you're stuck at? I'll try to help

[silk ibex]

Swap Daimon with Hogan and replace Oden with Arden, see if that helps

Keep Daimon as far away as possible from Estrilda. She hard-counters Daimon if Daimon isn't snowballed

[safe hazel]

Try smth like this

PoP can be replaced by ferael and talene can be replaced by any other tank

[silk ibex]

@safe hazel He only has Hogan as his tank cause he built Saveas for his Mauler fodder

[safe hazel]

lyca?

[silk ibex]

@safe hazel His box

[meager spire]

Helped a little bit, but still far from success

[silk ibex]

Replace Arden with Oden, who does Oden teleport?

[weary ether]

Could someone help me with this stage, i keep dying

[silk ibex]

Replace Anoki with Lyca. Anoki's bottom-tier.

[weary ether]

yh i made a mistake for thinking anoki is better than brutus at the start of the game 😭 so i fed l+ brutus into anoki to make him mythic

[silk ibex]

Whyyyyyyyyyyy

[weary ether]

I THOUGHT HIS ULTIMATE WAS COOL 😭

[meager spire]

he teleports the horse lady to hogan

Estrilda, lol

[silk ibex]

Okay, Oden's a no-go then. You wanna keep Daimon in the back. You need something in the front that can be of some use before they die

Try swapping Oden's position with Daimon, does he die before teleporting?

[meager spire]

Yeah, he dies before he can do anything

[silk ibex]

Use Arden then, with the previous lineup (Daimon in front). Then swap Arden and Silas so that Silas is behind Daimon

Or, put Silas middle back.

And hope Arden CCs Mirael through RNG.

For the last slot, see if Tasi does anything

[tiny zinc]

Good evening peops, does someone have an idea for this one?

[safe hazel]

swap daimon and lyca then lyca and shemira

don't invest into shem more and take heroes off wishlist once they reach A

=engraving

[cloud nexus]

Engraving is a Hero upgrade method that further enhances their abilities and stats, available only for heroes once they're ascended to Ascended 1 Star.

Below is listed how much it costs to engrave a hero to each level for each glyph type, also listed are our recommendations for the top 6 units to engrave:
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/618027271906918400/917789215914328094/ee.png
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/618027271906918400/930098588112007268/engravings.jpg

[safe hazel]

these 6 are probably only ones who want a star for engravings

[tiny zinc]

I didn't use any engravings on here, just got her sometimes. But true, she isn't too strong anymore

[safe hazel]

follow beginner guide pinned in #classic-questions explains everything

[tiny zinc]

Aye, thanks alot.

[clever patio]

need some good lineups for campaign pushing. just a few teams or whatever

[safe hazel]

np also look at this explains what furn is good and prevents you making mistakes with it especially rowan =furniture

[cloud nexus]

(22nd Jan 2022 - removed Gwyneth, added Scarlet)

Bok's Guide for Beginner Furniture Wishlists (PVE).
Ainz Grezhul Lucretia Mishka should stay on, even if you don't have a single copy of them. Swap the rest around depending on your current ascensions (ask if you're unsure).
Faction tower furniture are of lower priority than campaign ones (notice the arrow before LB tower). You might not want to do some faction tower furniture in favour of other modes, depending on what you're interested in.
Use red cards (aka Mythic Order Forms) on Grezhul > Ainz/Skriath/Alna/Mishka > Lucretia.

Initial furniture wishlist for beginners
Ainz 9, Grezhul 9, Lucretia 9, Mishka 9, for the remaining 6 empty slots take your pick from below depending on which heroes are closest to being Ascended
Thoran 3 or 9 (notes), Daimon 3, Raku 3, Oden 9, Silas 3, Albedo 3, Scarlet 9, Ferael 9, Skriath 3, Kren 3, Leonardo da Vinci 3, Silas 9, Kren 9, Raine 3, Leonardo da Vinci 9, Prince of Persia 3, Arthur 3, Merlin 9, Nemora 9, Alna 9 (notes), Zolrath 3, Brutus 3, Estrilda 3 (Dark Nemora TR) > Morrow 3 (LB tower), Tidus 3 and Skreg 9 (Mauler tower), Eironn&Tasi 3 (Wilder tower), Desira 3 and Izold 9 (GB tower)

Notes
Thoran - 9 reduces retry RNG; I advocate going for early event 5* Call frags (after Rowan and 2 carries' +30s). If you're willing to put up with more retries, then stop at 3.
Alna - 9 deserves red cards but the problem is that she's usually the second celepog for beginners (Lucretia is usually first to be done). This means you'll only get her to Ascended after about 1 year of playing, hence her "low" priority.
If you eventually gain an interest in competitive AE (Top 100 ranks) and/or PVP, ask other people for recommendations. This guide does not focus on those.

[clever patio]

just dm me if u wna help 🙂

[silk ibex]

Brutus across from Athalia

[wide breach]

So my athalia successfully knocks up flora before she flies up. But I can’t get the charm to stick before she’s back in the air. Is it just rng?

[meager spire]

This is the formation that I do best with

[silk ibex]

Might wanna retry spam it a bit and see if it works out

[meager spire]

But Arden dies soon after he gives the thorns shield, so no CC

And Nara die before she knocks back whoever she hooks

[silk ibex]

What Artifacts are you using

[meager spire]

Would buying this help?

[silk ibex]

Is that for Daimon? Do you have Mythic Boots or Weapon on him yet?

[safe hazel]

boots > weapon first

[silk ibex]

^

[meager spire]

I don't have any mythic gear

[silk ibex]

@meager spire Prioritize Boots > Weapon first for Mythic Gear

[meager spire]

I also haven't used any of these, I can maybe buy one or two hero faction chests and see if I get enough fodder to get a GB hero to L/L+

[meager spire]

Ok got it

[safe hazel]

all for reds

[silk ibex]

Red Chests, if you're F2P or a light spender you'll be starved of those later on

You'll need as many as you can get since Events are your most reliable source of Red Chests

[meager spire]

Ah ok

[silk ibex]

@meager spire It takes 300 Red Chests for a single SI30, and I heard from someone you'll need about 6000 of those Chests at least for the basic comps

Start saving asap imo lol

@meager spire Only exception is if you can get Daimon's SI20

[meager spire]

Jesus lol

[silk ibex]

How many Purple and Gold Emblems do you have

[meager spire]

What do you mean? Do I not need to upgrade it last 20?

[silk ibex]

@safe hazel What was the consensus on trading for Emblems if you won't have enough for Daimon SI20 even if you traded all for Emblems again?

[silk ibex]

What do you mean?

[meager spire]

You mentioned daimon is the only exception, to what?

[safe hazel]

Wdym

[silk ibex]

Trading for Purple and Gold Emblems to rush his SI20.

Normally you'd wanna hoard Red Chests but Daimon's SI20 is really important for him to carry hard

[silk ibex]

Like if you can't get enough for SI20 even if you trade all the tokens for Purple/Gold, do you just wait and go Reds or still trade

[safe hazel]

You will but I’m pretty sure only golds

[silk ibex]

True, Purples are easy to get.

[safe hazel]

But you don’t need to trade an absurd amount to get + 20 anyway it’s like 40 reds for SI+20

[silk ibex]

@meager spire Do you have 200 Primordial Emblems and 240 Amplifying Emblems? Or anywhere close to that?

[silk ibex]

40 Reds is 100 Golds, just checked, so yeah doable imo

[meager spire]

15 primordial and 65 amplifying

My SI is at +8

+7 sorry

[silk ibex]

Ah. I was about to ask why so few Primordials. For future reference make sure you upgrade SIs 10 by 10

SIs spike every 10 levels, there are less than a handful of Heroes that benefit from the in-betweens like Tasi SI15

[meager spire]

Ah, I thought about it, but since daimon seems to be so good I thought it was ok to do it 1 by 1

Since I'd use it all on him anyway

[silk ibex]

Yeah, Daimon is top priority, since you don't have Rowan M

But yeah for future reference 10 by 10 is the safest.

[meager spire]

Ok, thanks

By the way, how would I go about getting Rowan (or any hero not in GB, really) to M+? Just extreme patience from summoning with normal scrolls and diamonds?

[slate dawn]

anyone able to help me with this stage 😄

[meager spire]

Since I am using all faction scrolls on GB

[silk ibex]

@meager spire If you don't wanna wait for 105 Primordial Emblems and 175 Amplifying Emblems you can spend the Event Tokens all on those. Just get more Red Chests next event for Rowan. And yeah, just mostly RNG. However you won't get permanently stuck in this game.

1. Summons have a pity timer. You can't go more than 30 pulls in a row without an Elite Hero.

2. After getting your first A Hero you unlock HCP which speeds up your copies

[silk ibex]

It takes 12 Tokens to trade for 90 Primordials, you can get the last 20 from Tavern. Or spend 4 more Tokens for another 30. Takes 45 to get 180 Amplifyings.

I think if I've done the math right
120 Primordials = 12
180 Amplifyings = 45
60 Red Chests = 39

= 96 Tokens

Spend the last 4 on 30 more Primordials if you want

[meager spire]

How often do these events that gives red chests come around?

[meager spire]

I'm tempted to do this

[silk ibex]

Often enough

[silk ibex]

SI20 on Daimon is a massive spike. You won't regret it.

[meager spire]

And this all would get me to SI+20?

Cool

[silk ibex]

Well if these numbers are correct

[silk ibex]

Reset Lyca and Rowan and put them in RC, level Silvina and Arden first of all.

Rowan to distract Silvina. Put Nara in RC and hook Isabelle with her

[fiery wing]

red chest all of them

[silk ibex]

There's an exception if you can rush Daimon +20

Prolly not for purples but I think he's not getting too many Purple Emblems rn?

I forgot if you get them after 500 pulls or from the beginning

[slate dawn]

@silk ibex tyvm

[meager spire]

I can see that. I just passed the stage I was stuck in :)

[silk ibex]

You should be good until well after Ch20

[meager spire]

Cool! Thanks

By the way for the red chests, do I spend them all on emblems for daimon?

[silk ibex]

@meager spire Don't. Daimon's SI30 is very low priority for you right now. Ideally your Red Chests should be saved for Rowan SI30

Even if you don't have a single copy of Rowan, it's that important

[mental sun]

Most optimal team so I can set it up for when I reset wu kong eventually

[silk ibex]

Why are your levels still not on your fodder

[mental sun]

I've been grinding out the story for more exp

[silk ibex]

That... doesn't answer the question

Do you know what fodder Heroes are

[mental sun]

I don't have enough xp for the fodders to be high

[mental sun]

Like the old blue heros

[silk ibex]

Yes, it costs 20 Diamonds to reset a Hero, it makes no difference, you can still put 4 Skill Heroes in RC

[mental sun]

Qlso I save this right?

[silk ibex]

Save those yeah, still too early for you to use them

[slim portal]

Wukong is safe until Lv.100~ try building fodder hero like fire girl as core instead of feeding her to horse girl.
Read: <#classic-questions message>

[silk ibex]

Reset Tasi Oden Eironn Mishka and put your levels into Hogan Golus Arden Silvina

Follow the levelling order in the pinned guide

[mental sun]

Alr

[onyx rock]

Hi all!
If anyone have advice or suggestion, here is my account.
I'm stuck at 31-8 (double phase bosses) in the campaign and 374 at the tower.
Feel free to tag me or add me/write me in game.

[ocean solar]

help plz

[autumn orbit]

Any ideas?

Been trying to follow the beginners guide as closely as possible but I’m not seeing how I’m supposed to beat things when I’m 60-70% of their power

might be cause i didn't get daimon or rosaline tho

[distant plume]

I can get every team to work except the last one. Should I switch some around? Who?

[brisk heart]

Is good?

[onyx rock]

@autumn orbit
you need to ascend Thoran, use the two Silvinas elite+ for that
take out Hogan and try to level up Eroinn to switch them
take out Arden and try to level up Raku to switch them
Silas is good, and take out Mirael for Shemira (at ehe beginning is a good carry)
(Peppi and Raine are good tho but focus on Thoran, Silas and Raku, these three need to be your priorities )

[ocean solar]

help plz

@onyx rock can you give me a team?

[pale kettle]

Best team comp in general? Beginner here lol

[onyx rock]

mmmh i dunno , i don't have many of ur heroes but i'll try with:
lucrezia in front of Rigby
Brutus or Wu Kong in front of Grezhul
then from top to bottom
Talene -Flora- Rowan -
(remember that Nara grab the hero in front of her , so i ll put flora mid because she fly or u can put a tank or warrior too idk )
Also try Skriat , Zikis and Safiya .
sorry can't help u more

[slim portal]

Way too early for best comp, follows the beginner guide here
Read: <#classic-questions message>

[autumn orbit]

but doesn't the guide say to like not level any 4 skill heroes past E+ before you have those five fodder L+ and also shouldn't i just put the people you told me to level up on the resonating crystal and instead keep lvlnig up the five fodder

idk thats what the beginner guide said

[pale kettle]

ah okay, thanks

[onyx rock]

yes @autumn orbit and u can ascend toran to legendary in any case, and all your heroes are max Elite + so now u don't have many differences , but sure u can level up the "common Heroes" to their max and use the crystal for the other, but not use them in campaign then

[onyx rock]

i said that to you in general to have an ideas of what are ur best picks

[pale kettle]

Okay right off the bat way too many legendary heroes

[mild plover]

?

[pale kettle]

When you have an elite+ hero (purple with 2 little gold thingies on the top right and bottom left corners) and you feed him 2 fodder elite+ heroes and make him golden (legendary)

Well actually

[cunning warren]

what should I do for my multi team bosses? i can easily do the 1st round but I can’t make a good team for the 2nd one

[pale kettle]

Do you have daimon

[mild plover]

Uh

Who dat

[brisk heart]

Help, what is the best team?

[sweet iris]

Is this talene good?

[rapid rampart]

anyone i can change or put into the crystal

[neat walrus]

Is this lineup any good for chap 18-1 onward?

[rapid rampart]

I'm at ch 22 and I use very similar comp minus Oden. I mean going forward, you are going to change stuff around. I find that Brutus sometime is better than Thoran, etc.

[neat walrus]

but having Brutus have 5% less of heros effect..
I am also thinking that letting Daimon on tank and getting another hypogean into my team as well

[dusky estuary]

my generic daimon comp till 30 was
rowan /brutus
daimon / eironn / fereal.
it worked for most stages

[faint current]

The faction bonus you’re referring to is irrelevant in most cases.

[neat walrus]

is daimon oden comp not very decent?

[cunning warren]

oden is good but you gotta invest in him

[neat walrus]

cause I wanna to build a portal party later... so I've invest a little (not as much as daimon)

[cunning warren]

that doesn’t really matter, Brutus guarantees a few seconds of survival which can help daimon

[dusky estuary]

oden is strong. mine was just E+ at the time so i didnt use him as much. and that comp worked for me

[slim portal]

Daimon usually stick with Ferael early to mid game, it good to disable annoying Tasi
Oden is a strong crowd control hero but it usually target frontline only, i have him paired with Grez and Raku for my another team. But early game more on daimon and Ferael

[neat walrus]

right... thanks for the advice

[neat walrus]

i've tried the Daimon Farael comp but... i doesnt feel like ferael really do something. Although my ferael is only at E+ so i dont really think i can use it now..?

[slim portal]

He stun opponent right at the start for 3 seconds and slow down opponent energy gains

[long bane]

i literally can't beat anything anymore cuz my lineup never wins can someone help i'll send a ss of my chars

[slim portal]

With signature items and furniture, he can reduce attack rating / haste / and health recovery too later. But early game with stun and reduce energy gains is more than enough, especially against tasi

[neat walrus]

but shall i replace him with Mythic oden...? Moreover, i have talena on my team now...

[long bane]

chap 8 💔

[slim portal]

That’s sounds terrible invest for early game. Should focus on daimon/rowan/ferael, don’t simply ascend hero without 8 copies

[neat walrus]

my farael is even worse.. only like 3 copy in total

oden and daimon are now total of 7 copy...

[rapid rampart]

You might want a tank hero in front

[long bane]

is daimon not a tank cuz i thought he wassssss

[rapid rampart]

He is but you also want him to stay alive the longest and dish out damage

[slim portal]

Oden works for now, until you meet Tasi after. But it sounds good for your current progress anyway

[neat walrus]

I'm also feeling like investing in Portal Party team...

[long bane]

O i got the options of lucius is that good

[rapid rampart]

Tbh the goal for the moment for you is get 5 fodder heroes to 160

[long bane]

i can't cause i keep dying when i try to beat stuff

[pale kettle]

Should I get daimon copy

[slim portal]

Save it, unless you have 7 copies daimon

[pale kettle]

I need mythic daimon

So that I can get red chests from magician

Previously many told me to do that 🤷🏽‍♂️

Oops wrong server

[slim portal]

That works too, I didn’t know you have no mythic at all

[fiery wing]

full gb comp is actually op

[neat walrus]

So currently i can go with Thoran/Talena/Oden/Rowan/Daimon?

[fiery wing]

yea

but i think when fereal hits M with sig he is a better cc support than oden

[neat walrus]

to be with daimon comp right?

[fiery wing]

yea

[neat walrus]

Then my oden will be transfer to Portal Party team then

[untold cypress]

Help, I tried changing few but stuck here

[zinc island]

I’m not a master at this game but why is Daimon at front💀

[neat walrus]

Talena and daimon switch place

[zinc island]

Estrillda will flatten the living shit out of Daimon.

It’s literally daimons weakness faction.

[untold cypress]

Isn’t GB > LB? Not the other way around

[zinc island]

No.

Actually nvm?

Your correct💀

But still, Estrillda will flatten the living shit out of Daimon.

[zinc island]

Tysm.😍

*blinks aggressively *

[mental glen]

brutus, grez, daimon, silas, oden

[zinc island]

Alr

Ty g

[pale kettle]

which team shld i use for now?

[supple birch]

Can someone help me with this floor, I'm stuck on it for a long time and I really just wanna go too the next one

[digital skiff]

Very trash

[lament night]

Advice for challenger comps?

[pale kettle]

Check pins I don't think u r levelling ur heroes right

please help

[arctic laurel]

My arden doesn't survive even after L+, help

[digital skiff]

Yse brutus

[arctic laurel]

No have

[digital skiff]

Shit

[pale kettle]

I am four stages behind u :o

[faint current]

Khasos early on in the fight does a double axe-throw move that deals extreme damage to enemies in a line in front of him

Set battle speed 2x/4x to OFF to better see what's happening...if it's those axes that are killing Arden, try swapping him with Daimon and seeing if that helps

[arctic laurel]

So youre telling me theres an x4 option? 👀

@faint current daimon melts too, sadly. I guess my gear succ

[hoary granite]

Is it okay to reset the fodder heroes and level up regular ones until I can get my fodders enough copies to get to elite to go past 100

[pale kettle]

Aren't fodders easier to get?

[hoary granite]

Yeah but I still can’t pull the ones I need to get elite

[pale kettle]

What stage u at ?

[hoary granite]

8-16

And I’m 400 away from next summon so like if I can get copies then I can reset the hero and put it back into the fodder

Like no lie I might reset cuz I feel like I messed up already

But then I’ll miss out on the trading hat characters

[pale kettle]

See the magician hat event....u should be going for the red chests they have the most value....if u can't do that I was told before that I should use them for fodder chests

Because I also had a fodder crunch so I spent some points for fodder